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With a successful music career spanning over four decades, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
Oscar and Grammy-winning singer and songwriter Lionel Richie | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
has sold over 100 million albums worldwide. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
# Easy like Sunday morning. # | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
Lionel has three children and lives in Los Angeles. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
But was born in Tuskegee, Alabama. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
He was raised on the campus of the Tuskegee Institute, | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
a highly respected historically black university | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
where both his mother and his grandmother were teachers. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
The family home consisted of my grandmother, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
my mom, my father, my sister. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
I grew up knowing | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
that everything was available and possible. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
Imagine during the Civil Rights movement, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
every black guy I knew had access to a PhD | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
or they were a lawyer. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
It was not like growing up in "the rural South." | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
And so we called Tuskegee the bubble. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
I didn't realise it, | 0:01:10 | 0:01:11 | |
but I was standing on the shoulders of giants. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
People who struggled and overcame great obstacles | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
to create the secure and nurturing environment | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
in which I was raised. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
But I have no idea who the giants in my family are. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
Who paved the way for my parents and ultimately for me? | 0:01:26 | 0:01:31 | |
So my goal right now in this part of my life, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
is to find out the names | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
and the faces and the places of those giants, | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
so I can pass this information on to my kids, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:45 | |
so they can rise to the occasion. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
Was I sheltered when I was growing up? Absolutely. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
Our parents protected us from everything. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
They didn't tell us that there was segregation, didn't tell us. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:22 | |
If the Klan was coming to protest through the streets of Tuskegee, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
our parents put us to bed early. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
In 1968, Lionel formed the band the Commodores | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
with fellow students from Tuskegee University. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
The Commodores gave me that opportunity to go out | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
and seek the real world because... the blinders were off. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:50 | |
And I was able to understand my mother and father | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
and the community a lot better, and I could appreciate them a lot more. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
-Hey, Dad. -I'm getting ready to leave town. -Where you going? | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
I think where I'm going to start out is Tuskegee with Auntie Deborah. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
And we're going to find some interesting stuff on our ancestry. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
-All right. -Go, Daddy. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
OK, guys. Be good. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
-All right, be good. -Bye, Dad. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:13 | |
-Bye-bye, you two. -Bye. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
Lionel's first stop is Tuskegee, Alabama. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
He's meeting his younger sister Deborah | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
at their grandmother's house where they grew up. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
Deb and I spent much of our youth living with Grandma Foster. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
And while we heard many stories about her mother Velenderver, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
we have absolutely no idea who our grandmother's father was. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
She never talked about him. Deborah is the keeper of the family photos | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
'and has been doing some research for me. So I'm curious | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
'to see what she's been able to dig up.' | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
Yeah, this should be quite interesting. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
-I got a lot to show you. -Uh-oh. Don't scare me now. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
Show me what you got. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
-Well, I've got a few photos for you there. -Wow. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
You recognise that face? | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
That's Grandma Adelaide Foster, right? | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
Grandma Foster. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
And there is Adelaide over there. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
-At age 100. -At age 100. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
And she is probably here about, what, seven? | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
You know, the thing I remember most | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
growing up with her was... | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
If she didn't want to talk about it... | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
-..you don't talk about it. -You don't talk about it. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
The original, "Don't ask, don't tell" | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
is Grandma Foster. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
OK. This is Grandma Foster's social security document. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:34 | |
-Whoa. -I ordered it. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
I haven't seen it yet, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
so we're looking at it for the first time. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
-Oh, OK. -So... | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
Oh, my gosh. Look at that. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
"Adelaide M... | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
-"Brown! -Brown!" | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
-Oh, my gosh. -Wait, let's go down. Wait, wait. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
"Father's name. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
-"Louis Brown. -Louis Brown." | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
So this is my great-grandfather. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
Phew! | 0:05:03 | 0:05:04 | |
-That's certainly a revelation. -So what do you think? | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
That's powerful right here. I love that. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
Lionel has discovered the name | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
of his grandmother Adelaide Foster's father - | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
his own great-grandfather - Louis Brown. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
But why did she never talk about him? | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
So for Grandma to fill out that card, she KNEW it was Brown. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:25 | |
-Oh, yeah. -And she just didn't tell anybody. -No, no, of course not. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
Don't ask, don't tell. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
But here's the kick. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
She was born in Nashville, Tennessee. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
Nashville, wow. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
Well, my dear, I'm going to take this with me. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
Now that he knows the name of his grandmother's father, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
Lionel is heading to her birthplace, Nashville. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
He's searching for clues regarding the man she never spoke about. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
He's arranged to meet genealogist Mark Lowe | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
at the Nashville Public Library. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
All right. We have a social security application here. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:07 | |
My grandmother was born here in Nashville in 1893. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
I know my great-grandmother, Velenderver. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
But now, "father's name, Louis Brown." | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
How do we find more about him? | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
Well, with that information, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
this is the marriage book for this time period. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
-Gosh! -Why don't we look for a marriage, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
maybe two to three years before your grandmother was born? | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
Between Velenderver Towson and Louis Brown. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
1891. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
Under Brown, right? | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
We have here, George Brown. Nope. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
Not there in 1891. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:46 | |
-So let's back up to 1890. -Let's just back it up, 1890. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
All right, let's move back. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:50 | |
And here we are, Thomas Brown. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
JL, Velenderver Towson. Here we are. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
Wow. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
Velenderver, right here. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:00 | |
This is the date the marriage was issued. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
April 6th, 1890. Is that it? | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
-Yes. -Unbelievable. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
JL. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
So what was J? | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
Well, I have another document to show you. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
What is this? | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
This is what's called a complaint. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
Uh, "Velenderver Brown versus John Louis Brown." | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
Right. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:24 | |
All right. Now we got that name down. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
This is 1897. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
-Correct. -Very good. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
-They've been married seven years. -Seven years. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
And he's a resident of Chattanooga, Hamilton County, Tennessee. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:40 | |
Chattanooga, Tennessee. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
Which means he's not currently living | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
-in Nashville... -..In Nashville. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
..where Velenderver is still living. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
So this is basically a divorce. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
-Yes. -Wow. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
So perhaps the complaint will tell us more about the circumstances. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:59 | |
They were married in Nashville, Tennessee. She was about... | 0:07:59 | 0:08:04 | |
15 years old at the time of her marriage... | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
..and the defendant was about 50?! | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
-Wow! 50 and 15. -Right. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
How could they do that in the first place? Was that legal? | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
It was at the time. The common law was in effect | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
and she could have been as young as 12. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:25 | |
That's the law at the time? Older than 12? | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
It didn't change till 1899, about ten years after that. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
But that was not uncommon for older men to marry younger women. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:38 | |
I have a 12-year-old daughter. This would be shotgun-in-hand today! | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
Are you kidding me? | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
And evidently, these are the things that she says | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
give her grounds for divorce. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
Yes, she said... I'll let you read this. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
"Because of the difference in their ages, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
"she could not comply with his way of thinking. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
"Until it reached a point, | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
"complainant could no longer stand it. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
"Therefore, complainant prays that the matrimony be dissolved." | 0:09:01 | 0:09:06 | |
So there's one more document related to this divorce. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
OK. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:13 | |
This one is called the final decree. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:14 | |
-And this is from the judge? -Correct. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
All I can see here is the date, July 26th, 1897. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
And I can't... | 0:09:21 | 0:09:22 | |
OK, well basically, the judge found that she was abandoned | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
for a period of more than two years. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
And the divorce is granted. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
Wow. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
And remember that based on those ages, if he's 57, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
being born in 1840, she would have been born in 1875. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
And they're clearly from two worlds. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
Absolutely. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:43 | |
We know Velenderver was born free after emancipation | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
but there's the possibility that John Louis could have been born | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
as a slave, or free, we don't know yet. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
If he WAS a slave when he was born, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
there'd have be a completely different mindset. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
So probably there's some other records to get to that point, | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
to learn more about who John Louis Brown was. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
Oh, I'd love that. Thank you, Mark. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
While the age difference might have had something to do | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
with my great-grandparents' divorce, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
there's got to be more to this story. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
Lionel is heading to the Metro Archives in Nashville, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
searching for any information about his mysterious grandfather, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
John Louis Brown. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
I know that my great-grandfather left his wife and child | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
but now I want to find out why he would do such a thing. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
Lionel is meeting historian Don Doyle. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
I'm trying to find my great-grandfather. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
OK, this is a city directory from 1885. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
But let's see if we can't find... | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
These pages are as soft as butter. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
Brown... | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
Brown... | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
J Louis. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:56 | |
"SGA Knights of Wise Men." | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
What is that? | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
It sounds to me like some kind of a fraternal order, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
some kind of an organisation. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
It does, like the Masons, or it would be a... It could be a fraternity. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
Now you know what you've done. You've probably stoked my curiosity. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
OK? | 0:11:18 | 0:11:19 | |
Because if we can go back this far, we've got to go back some more. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:24 | |
We've got one more city directory. This is from 1880. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
1880, 1880. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:29 | |
And so let's catch him just five years back a little bit earlier. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
Let's see what we see. Now this one is... | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
I'll let you touch the book. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
..not only falling apart, it is apart. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
So let me see if I can... | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
Holy cow! It is apart. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
John... | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
Now here... | 0:11:47 | 0:11:48 | |
John L Brown. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
Editor of Knights Of Wise Men. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
So now, whatever "SGA" meant, we now know that he is an editor | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
of something called the Knights Of Wise Men. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
This tells you just by the names here, again, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
that he is involved... he must be literate. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
-I was going to say. -He's an editor. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
-I was going to say, he's the editor, this is a schooled guy. -Yes. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
The Knights Of Wise Men. We got to figure out what that's all about. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
I think you need someone who's an expert | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
more on fraternal organisations, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
and who can help you on this more esoteric branch of history. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
Good. All right. I'm on the hunt. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
'It's so thrilling to learn that my great-grandfather | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
'was involved in such a mysterious organisation.' | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
Just who are the Knights Of Wise Men? And what on earth is an SGA? | 0:12:37 | 0:12:42 | |
To try to find out who the Knights Of Wise Men were and what they did, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
Lionel is meeting an expert on African-American | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
fraternal organisations. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
I'm in search of this SGA Knights Of The Wise Men. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
Well, I think I can help you with that. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
The Knights Of The Wise Men. This was a fraternal order, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
that also had a benefit for its members. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
The organisation helped build bonds of community | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
between African-American men. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
It was an institution that provided financial benefits | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
to all of its members for sickness, as well as in death. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:25 | |
So this is basically an insurance policy or an insurance company, basically. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
To some degree. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
It's the precursor of what we think of as modern insurance companies. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
You are kidding me. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
Remember, at this time, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:38 | |
white organisations were completely separate | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
-and did not admit African-Americans. -Oh, OK. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
The Knights Of Wise Men was founded in 1879 to address the needs | 0:13:44 | 0:13:50 | |
of the black community. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
For a brief period after the Civil War, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
African-Americans participated in southern government | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
and implemented social reform, but they were soon pushed out | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
by a white community that reversed the progress toward racial equality. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:07 | |
Facing the future with few resources and virtually no public help, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
visionary leaders like JL Brown took action | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
and created institutions to assist African-Americans. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
The Knights Of Wise Men became one of several national African-American | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
fraternal orders in the 19th century. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
And by 1882, the organisation had grown to 278 lodges. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:32 | |
These were the prototypes of the organisations | 0:14:32 | 0:14:37 | |
that helped propel the modern Civil Rights Movement. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
Wow! | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
So what does SGA mean? | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
SGA stands for Supreme Grand Archon. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
He wasn't just a member of the organisation, he was the leader, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:52 | |
the national leader of the organisation. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
And he had the presence of mind to think like this, on this level. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:03 | |
-Not just locally but nationally. -Nationally. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
That was not what I was expecting. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
If you look at this, it will give you some hint | 0:15:11 | 0:15:16 | |
of just how important he was. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
"Knights Of The Wise Men. Rules, laws and regulations. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:24 | |
"JL Brown, supreme archon." | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
He was not only the leader, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
but he wrote the rules, laws and regulations of the order. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
What? | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
JL Brown was at the forefront | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
in building a significant institution to meet the needs | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
-of African-Americans across the nation. -Unbelievable. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
This is unbelievable. So you have... | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
We have more about the Knights Of Wise Men. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
You're telling me from this you have more?! | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
This is coming from the Daily Times in Chattanooga, Tennessee, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
from 1891. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
What this article informs us of | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
is what's happened to the Knights Of Wise Men. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
Ah, very good. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
It says here, "Chattanooga has the strongest lodge of wise men. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:13 | |
"Outside of this city the organisation has perceptibly weakened | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
"since the smallpox epidemic of 1885, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
"when the backbone of the Wise Men | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
"was broken by the excessive drain upon the treasury." | 0:16:24 | 0:16:29 | |
What happened was, the Knights Of Wise Men | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
had to pay out of their treasury these death benefits. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
Oh, that's right. Exactly. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
So as those death benefits mounted, the treasury was depleted. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:41 | |
It says, "The Knights Of The Wise Men | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
"is in a quandary concerning the whereabouts | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
"of their supreme secretary of treasure, SR Walker of Nashville. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:52 | |
"Walker, as supreme treasurer of the Wise Men of the United States, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
"handled considerable money, but was not required | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
"to give bond or secure funds placed in his hands." | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
So it means now, it is clear... | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
-The treasurer... -..ran off with the money. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
That's right. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:11 | |
So a little... Six years after the smallpox epidemic of 1885, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:17 | |
we have SR Walker taking what's left in the treasury | 0:17:17 | 0:17:22 | |
and leaving Nashville. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
Hm. That was devastating. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
My great-grandfather, was he involved in this? | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
Interestingly enough, the account that we have, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
does not implicate your great-grandfather. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
Very good. So now what happened? | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
We see that the Wise Men, although they're still mentioned | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
in books as late as 1915, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
it's no longer a nationwide organisation. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
It's no longer this healthy, vital organisation. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
So now that explains... | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
The marriage fell apart during this period. | 0:17:55 | 0:18:00 | |
So it's understandable now, in my head, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
why the marriage fell apart. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
On top of the fact that the age difference, | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
but also the business. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
The business that he had established was now falling apart. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
And he was trying to spend as much time as he could, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
probably trying to resurrect this or to clear it up. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
And so it makes sense to me, what his mindset was | 0:18:22 | 0:18:27 | |
at that particular time. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
Thank you very much, you've been amazing. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
-Hey, I enjoyed it. -Appreciate it. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
My great-grandfather went from being, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
in my mind, maybe a scoundrel, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
all the way to being one of the pioneers | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
of the Civil Rights Movement. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
His commitment to the community was just unbelievable | 0:18:45 | 0:18:50 | |
and he wanted to see the community lifted up, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
and did all he could to do that. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
I'm extremely proud. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
Now Lionel is heading to Chattanooga, Tennessee. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
According to the 1900 census, JL Brown moved there | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
after the demise of the Nashville branch of Knights Of Wise Men. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
I really want to find out what happened to my great-grandfather. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
Lionel is visiting the Chattanooga Public Library. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:27 | |
He's meeting local historian LaFrederick Thirkill, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
looking for information that might continue to link JL Brown | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
to the troubled organisation he founded, the Knights Of Wise Men. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
I'm hoping you can help me. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
Well, you came to the right place, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
and you'll be surprised that we were able to find him here. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:46 | |
I've got him in the 1929 city directory in Chattanooga. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
Oh, come on. 1929? | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
So born in 1840. That makes him pretty much around 90 years old. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
Yes. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:58 | |
Boy, he lived a long time. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
That explains a lot about my grandmother. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
She lived to be 100, and, um, three. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
Wow, wow. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:08 | |
So... I love this family gene. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
Ah, here we go. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
John L. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
He is now... Is that caretaker? | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
Yes. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:22 | |
"At the Pleasant Garden Cemetery." | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
Yes. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:26 | |
I think that probably the Knights Of Wise Men, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
as the organisation, or as the business, is no longer. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
That is somewhat unclear, but we do know | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
that he worked for a long time. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
So I'm taking that he is now working to eat, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
working to live, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
basically working to maintain his life. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
Yes. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:48 | |
Caretaker at 90? | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
Pleasant Gardens wasn't a small cemetery. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:53 | |
It's 22 to 23 acres big, if you could imagine... | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
Oh, you're kidding me. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
20 some-odd acres is not a small cemetery at all. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
And, of course, to be able to move around on that much property. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
Wow. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
Any more information? | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
-Just a second. -That's the right answer! | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
That's what I'm talking about. Good. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
"Biography and Achievements of Colored Citizens in Chattanooga." | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
Are you kidding me? | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
Wow. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:30 | |
There are some pretty impressive looking guys here. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
JW Williams. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
JL Brown! | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
So that's what he looks like. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
I'm noticing, you know, his forehead, and my forehead, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
and even to the point of the line, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
which I don't like to point out the flaws in my face, but, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
he has the same eyes and the same forehead, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
it's just unbelievable, it's uncanny. Wow. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
I don't know whether this is a write-up about him, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
or some of his thoughts. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:07 | |
"It's only by our good qualities, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
"rightly set forth, that we are to succeed in the future. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
"First by education, every boy and girl, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
"and teaching them from the cradle to the grave, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
"honesty, industry, economy of time and means | 0:22:21 | 0:22:27 | |
"and the fullest enjoyment of all rights as citizens | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
"and the destruction, death and burial of the accursed idea | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
"that the negro is inferior, simply because he has been in time | 0:22:34 | 0:22:41 | |
"deprived of life, liberty and property. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
"Let us all be wise men and women." | 0:22:45 | 0:22:51 | |
When I read this, I... | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
I'm thinking he wants to lift these people up. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
-He is not about, you know, "Don't remind me that I'm poor." -Right. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
-"Don't remind me that I'm not doing well." -Exactly. -Let's talk about the good, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
let's talk about going up... instead of down. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
Very good. So now what happened to him? | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
I was able to find one more document. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
Wow. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
What is this? | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
Ah. Place... This is the death certificate, right? | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
Yes. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:28 | |
Here we go. "Hamilton County, Chattanooga, Tennessee. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:33 | |
"JL Brown." | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
So now we actually know... do we know where he was buried? | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
-Yes. -Pleasant Gardens? | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
Pleasant Gardens. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
Pleasant Gardens. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
Oh, my God. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
The name here, Morgan Brown? | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
Morgan Brown was his father? | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
Morgan Brown is listed as his father. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
Whoa, here we go. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
"Morgan Brown and mother..." | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
The mother's name is listed as "don't know." | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
Don't you just love records like that? | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
But we have Morgan Brown. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
Lionel has just found out that JL Brown's father, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
Lionel's great-great-grandfather, was Morgan Brown. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
But he still doesn't know the name of his great-great-grandmother. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
Pleasant Gardens is still in existence. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
Oh, wow. Will you take me there? | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
-Let's go. -Let's go. Come on. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
Lionel is on his way to pay his respects to JL Brown | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
at Pleasant Gardens Cemetery. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
Pleasant Gardens was an African-American owned | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
and operated cemetery, founded in 1890, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
and was the primary burial ground for black men and women | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
in Chattanooga. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
This is not exactly what I expected. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
Man. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:12 | |
Is Great-Granddaddy close by? | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
Yeah, I can show you the area. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
Yeah, I'd sure like to see it. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
This portion of the cemetery is the pauper's section of the cemetery. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:35 | |
Some do have headstones | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
but amongst those are many that don't. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:46 | |
And it is believed that with the information | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
that we have about JL, that he's buried in this section of the cemetery. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:55 | |
I'm going to leave you a moment to reflect. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
-Thank you, my brother. -OK. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
Appreciate that. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
To know that your great-grandfather | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
walked amongst this and was a part of this, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
it's moving. It's extremely moving. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
It's hard, because you can't really... | 0:26:25 | 0:26:30 | |
you can't really... We take so much for granted. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:35 | |
Because we're not face-to-face with the real stories. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:40 | |
This is about as close to a spiritual awakening | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
as I've ever had in my entire life. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
Even though his circumstances did not work out, | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
I'm sure his heart was the same throughout. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:59 | |
He wanted to see the community lifted up. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
And, you know, I am quite proud to be | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
one of the guys that my great-grandfather lifted up. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:10 | |
But what about his early years? So far I've learned | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
that JL was born before slavery was abolished, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
and that his father's name was Morgan Brown | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
but that his mother's name was unknown. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
So the question still remains. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
Was my great-grandfather born a slave or a free man? | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
Lionel knows that JL was working in Nashville in the 1870s. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
So he's meeting historian Ervin Jordan | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
to see if he can find out any more information. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
What did you find? | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
Well, let's begin with this first document. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
Oh, God. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:50 | |
It says here, "State of Tennessee. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
-"Colored man's application for pension." -Yes. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
"Filed, September 19, 1924." | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
We had a pension back then? | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
-Yes. -In 1924? | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
-When he was 85. -Wow. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
All right, so now, "John L Brown, er, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
"a native of the state of Tennessee, and who was a servant | 0:28:11 | 0:28:16 | |
"in the war between the United States | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
"and the Confederate States." | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
The Civil War. Wow. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
The American Civil War began in 1861. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
It was fought between the union states of the north, | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
led by Abraham Lincoln, who wanted to abolish slavery | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
and the Confederate States of the south who wanted to preserve it. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:43 | |
As a native of the southern state of Tennessee, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
Lionel's great-grandfather, JL Brown, found himself at the heart | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
of a conflict that would ravage the nation for four years. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
So I'm thinking a soldier and he was basically... | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
He was not a soldier. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
-He was a body servant. -A body servant? | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
He was a body servant to a Confederate officer. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
Now, what is a body servant? | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
A body servant worked sort of as a butler to an officer or group of officers doing the war. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
Free blacks did it because they could get paid for it. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
Slaves usually didn't have a choice. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:16 | |
Their owners would hire them out to an officer. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
He'd cook, polish the boots, provide food, take care of the horses, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
-even provide entertainment. -But it couldn't have been safe. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
It was a dangerous occupation. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:29 | |
It wasn't one of glory or anything like that, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
it was very dangerous, highly risky. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:33 | |
Several of these individuals were killed or maimed | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
during the course of the war. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:37 | |
Were they armed? Were they allowed to carry guns? | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
A very small number were, but the vast majority of them | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
didn't get one. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:45 | |
Wow. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:48 | |
But we have a photograph here | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
fortunately not of your great-grandfather, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
showing a dead body servant, alongside what we believe | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
was probably the person who hired him. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
-The body servant here? -That's him. | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
He was probably minding his own business, | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
an artillery shell came in and exploded, killed both of them. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
So it's a dangerous job, and your great-grandfather | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
was a body servant. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:09 | |
Mm. And that picture tells the story right there. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
All right, it says here... | 0:30:18 | 0:30:19 | |
"When did you go with the army?" | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
He served May 20th, 1861. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
So that would make him 22 years old. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
-Mm-hmm. -22 years old. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
And here's one that just stands out right in front of me. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
It says, "Give the name of your owner." | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
Morgan W Brown. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
"Give the name of your owner." | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
This shows you that he was a slave, and that's why... | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
-He was the owner. -He was the owner. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
And on JL Brown's death certificate, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
the name Morgan Brown was listed as his father. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
-Mm-hm. -Uh... | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
I'm only assuming that Morgan W Brown | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
and Morgan Brown, the owner, is the same guy. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
It's entirely possible. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
And it explains to me totally now where it also said | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
on that other document, "Name of mother unknown." | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
Ah. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
Oh, that touches me right there. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
That's crazy. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
I think the word that stabbed me through the heart was "owner." | 0:31:20 | 0:31:26 | |
You know, those words are so far away from 2011. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:31 | |
You know, it's just unbelievable. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
-Well, thank you. -You're very welcome. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
Thank you so much, Doctor. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:38 | |
I'm clear on what I have to do now, I'm on the search now | 0:31:38 | 0:31:43 | |
for Morgan W Brown and Morgan Brown. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
-Thank you, Professor. -You're very welcome, Mr Richie. Good luck with your search. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
'So who is Morgan W Brown?' | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
Owner, father? | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
I need to find the answer. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
Lionel is returning to Nashville to try to find out | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
about Morgan Brown, the man listed as the father of JL Brown | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
on JL's death certificate. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
He's visiting the Nashville Public Library | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
to meet historian Jacqueline Jones. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
'I want to find out whether or not Morgan Brown | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
'and Morgan W Brown are one and the same.' | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
Do you know this guy named Morgan Brown? | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
Well, it's confusing. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
Dr Morgan Brown had a son, Morgan W Brown. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
Ah, there we go. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:34 | |
So to avoid confusion, I'm going to refer to the father as Dr Brown... | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
Very good. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
-..and the son as Morgan W Brown. -Very good. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
Well, let me go back and tell you about the doctor. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
He was a general physician here in Nashville. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
He owned a working slave plantation on the Cumberland River. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:53 | |
So with that little introduction in mind, | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
I have some documents here that you might find interesting. | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
And the first is an excerpt from Dr Brown's diary. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:06 | |
-We found his diary? -Yes. -I love it! -Yes. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
This is very small writing. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
Oh, my God, what is this? | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
It says 1839 here. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
"This night, at about 10 or 11 o'clock, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
Mariah had a boy child born. Named him Louis. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:25 | |
-Mariah. -Mariah. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
-We've now given a name to the mother. -Right. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
Mariah was one of Dr Morgan Brown's... | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
BOTH: Slaves. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:37 | |
Wow. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
There are several remarkable things about this. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
It was unusual for a master to make note of the name of a baby | 0:33:44 | 0:33:49 | |
-born to a slave on a plantation. -Absolutely. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
He was the father, obviously, of that baby also. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
Well, we can only speculate. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
But just keep in mind that Dr Morgan Brown | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
was about 80 years old. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
It's not unheard of... | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
Mm-hm, mm-hm. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
..for an 80-year-old to have a child by a woman. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
But it is unusual. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:14 | |
Morgan W Brown was 39... | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
Wow. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
..when John Louis was born. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
Got it. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
So we have to go on and look at other pieces of evidence. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
One of the most remarkable documents is... | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
-You mean that wasn't the remarkable document?! -No! | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
Even more remarkable, I think, is the will | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
that Dr Morgan Brown wrote. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
-And this is the original will he wrote. -This is the original will? | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
This is the original and he wrote it in August 1839. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:49 | |
Now keep in mind that Mariah was pregnant. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
Got it. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
He's writing this will about the middle of her pregnancy. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
So in his will, Dr Morgan Brown | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
says that Mariah should be freed from slavery. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
And then he goes on to say, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
"Once her unborn child is born, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
"that he should be freed, just like his mother." | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
And not only does Dr Brown leave Mariah a place | 0:35:15 | 0:35:19 | |
for her and her son to live, | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
but he also gives my great-grandfather | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
two years of schooling. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:26 | |
Unbelievable. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
That is absolutely unheard of back then. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
-It's very unusual. -Because the law was not to educate. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
Right, there were many laws | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
that outlawed slaves becoming literate at all. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
Well, it's pretty clear that Louis got his education. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
Right. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
Cos he was a sharp, sharp guy. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
Well, now, again, this was in his will. Was Mariah freed? | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
Well, we're not sure, but what he's intending is that Mariah | 0:36:01 | 0:36:07 | |
and this baby should be free when he dies. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
And then later in the will he says, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
"She might want to live by herself, and if she does, here on my land | 0:36:14 | 0:36:19 | |
"is where I would like her to have her own little cabin." | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
Right. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:23 | |
But his son, Morgan W, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
was the one would be carrying out the will. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
And I think that's one of the big question marks. Did he... | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
-..follow through? -It's ambiguous. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
Let me show you this slave census. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
If you can see the census-taker has written, | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
"Brown, Morgan's slaves." | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
But if we look here, the very last row, we can see that there are | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
no free people, either white or black, living on this plantation. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:56 | |
So she has no master living on the plantation, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
so she might still be categorised legally. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
-As slave. -As slave. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
But she might have some kind of quasi-freedom. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
-Mm-hm. This is her property. -Right. -How about that? I mean... | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
I feel so relieved for Mariah. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:21 | |
Mm-hm. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
Because, you know, there is some compassion here. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
Yes. Let me show you a picture | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
that I have taken from a painting... | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
-Oh! -..of Morgan W Brown. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:37 | |
Oh, geez. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
Unbelievable. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
This is Morgan W, this is the son. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
This is the son who is possibly your great-grandfather's father, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:56 | |
or possibly your great-grandfather's half-brother. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:01 | |
Unbelievable. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
You know, when we first started this journey, I was always | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
thinking in the back of my head, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
you know, that we would uncover | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
an ancestor like this. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
But to be standing here face-to-face | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
with the photograph | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
is pretty, er... unnerving on one respect, | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
and empowering on another, you know what I'm saying? | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
Because it was a brutal time. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
It was an extremely brutal time. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
And for Doc Morgan... | 0:38:36 | 0:38:41 | |
or for Morgan W, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
to even think for a moment | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
to protect what was his... | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
..was just the greatest gift. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
Doc Morgan, regardless of what the situation was, | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
he wanted to make sure that the kid, Louis, was taken care of. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:05 | |
JL didn't really know | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
what the true suffering was, because inside of his bubble, | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
which was the shelter that Doc Morgan provided for him, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:18 | |
he was able to learn and reason | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
outside of the pain and agony of slavery. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
And for me, Tuskegee University | 0:39:24 | 0:39:29 | |
was MY protective place. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
And of course the same circumstance happens with... | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
..with JL, you know. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
It was pretty remarkable. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
Pretty remarkable. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
Lionel has reached the end of his journey. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
He's back home in Los Angeles to tell his family all he's discovered | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
about his great-grandfather, John Louis Brown. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
You know this amazing journey would not be complete | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
if I didn't share it with my younger sister Deborah | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
and two of my children, Miles and Sofia. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
You are coming from the genes and the blood | 0:40:10 | 0:40:15 | |
of very strong people... | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
..who actually fought for the freedom - | 0:40:22 | 0:40:27 | |
their freedom, | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
-and also the freedom of black America. -Mm-hmm. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
You should be very proud to know that that's in your family history. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:37 | |
So to understand how fortunate we are now, | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
we are here because of their struggle. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
'When we first started this journey' | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
it was interesting because | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
I kept thinking, for the longest time, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:52 | |
that the family was actually keeping a big secret from us. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:57 | |
'Because it was just things that were not pleasant.' | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
They didn't talk about it. That's just that simple. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
Velenderver married John Louis Brown. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
'Now that I'm at the end of the journey, | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
'I can honestly say that I don't think that my grandmother | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
'withheld the information.' | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
Um, I think she didn't know. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
Your great-great-great-grandmother | 0:41:19 | 0:41:24 | |
is Mariah, who was a slave. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
I am in awe of the strength of not only my grandparents | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
and great-grandparents, | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
'but just of the strength of black America.' | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
What this has done for me is kind of given me a sense | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
that I'm standing on these very powerful shoulders... | 0:41:42 | 0:41:47 | |
of, er... | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
of a people that just will not take the word... | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
..defeat. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
Um, that... I'm very, very proud, | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
very proud to be there. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
Through your adventures, | 0:42:02 | 0:42:04 | |
was there anything that really struck you the most? | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
The part that moved me the most was that, er, | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
JL would have been so proud of us | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
because his dream is our reality. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
And it's... HE SIGHS | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
Deep breath! Deep breath! | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
Oh, kid, I love you. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
Well, it's done. It's done. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
-Oh, my God. -All right? | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
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