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Singer-songwriter Kelly Clarkson | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
is on the trail of an heroic Civil War ancestor. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
I could not be more proud of this man. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
Along the way, Kelly discovers | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
the extraordinary bravery of her three-times great-grandfather... | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
Oh, my gosh! He escaped. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
..and his wartime sacrifice. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
I hope people know, like, what they fought for mattered. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
And before her journey is over... | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
-That's huge. -Epic. -Yeah. Wow! | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
..Kelly discovers a family connection that runs deeper than she ever imagined. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:32 | |
And that's what I find amazing, that we didn't know that, | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
that we came from that. You know, it's in our blood. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
Multiple platinum singing star Kelly Clarkson | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
sprang from humble Texas roots | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
before shooting to stardom in 2002 | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
as the first-ever winner of American Idol. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
Kelly continues to dominate the charts with the powerful vocals | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
and outspoken lyrics that have earned her three Grammys, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
more than 20 million album sales, and the honour of singing | 0:01:30 | 0:01:35 | |
at the second inauguration of President Barack Obama. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
When it comes to something that I really truly believe in | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
and it's my gut feeling and it's right, I do not sway from that. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:47 | |
I'm a very strong presence as a female | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
and I totally get that from my mother. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
She put herself through...like, after her and my dad got divorced, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
put herself through college. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:56 | |
Like, worked really hard, raised three kids, | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
she's just a very strong individual. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
That's why I'm kind of interested about this ancestry stuff too | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
cos there's got to be a whole line of us in there, you know, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
we've got to get that from someone. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
I was five years old when my parents divorced | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
and our family kind of separated. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
I didn't really have a relationship with my father after that. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
I don't really know a lot about my past, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
and I'm just newly engaged | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
and Brandon knows, you know, quite a bit more than I do about his family. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
It'd just be nice to learn about my past | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
and have that help me for my future. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
My mother pretty recently, like, maybe the past two years | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
has been gravitating and trying to find out more about our genealogy. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
I'm really excited to actually use | 0:02:45 | 0:02:46 | |
all the stuff she's, you know, gathered | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
'so we won't have to start from scratch.' | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
Come on, Joplin. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
'I've invited her to my home from her place in North Carolina | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
'and it will be super exciting to see what she's put together.' | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
Well, thanks for coming to Nashville to help me out with this. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
I didn't really have much connection, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
you know, when I was young, with any of our past family members. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
So I was wondering what made you all of a sudden in the last couple years | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
really get into genealogy? | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
Well, pretty much the same thing. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:14 | |
I had no connections in my family either. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
And I'm at that age where I want to know my ancestors. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
I want to know their hopes and their dreams | 0:03:21 | 0:03:26 | |
and what kind of people were they? | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
-Yeah. -Now, I did find some things online on the internet. -OK. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
There we go. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:33 | |
You're going to go to the Rose family. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
Oh, wow. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
OK, so there's me. These are your parents, Nial and Mary. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
And then it ends on Isaiah, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
-who is my great, great, great-grandfather. -Yes. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
-Right on. Is this as far as you got, right? -Yes. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
-OK, so we can start from there. -OK. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
-Click on Isaiah... -All right. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:52 | |
..and I'll show you some of the research I found. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
So it says 1870. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:56 | |
-The census, I get it here? -Yes. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
All right, so that's Isaiah Rose. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
Isaiah Rose, 28, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
male, white, coal digger. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
Coal miner's daughter! | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
Coal miner's great, great, great-granddaughter! | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
OK, so if he was 28 in 1870, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
he would have been 18 or 19 when the Civil War started, right? | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
He would have been the right age to have been in there | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
so you can always go back to Isaiah. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
And if he was in Ohio, then he would have been... | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
-What? -..a Yankee? | 0:04:27 | 0:04:28 | |
Could have been, but you never know. You got to go back and check. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
I hope he was a Yankee, then. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
I don't want the other one. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:35 | |
There's a way you can find out. Go up here to the search. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
-Search, OK. -Search and go down to military records. -Oh. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
-So now put in his name. -Type his name in. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
"Isaiah Rose..." | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
-and now search. -Search. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:49 | |
OK. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:52 | |
"Isaiah Rose." | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
There's two of them at the top. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:55 | |
The side - Union. Score! | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
18th Regiment, infantry. He was a private. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
And the other one, which I think is the same one. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
Yep, side - the Union, Ohio, 63rd Regiment. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
So it's the same guy, so he was in it twice. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
I'm wondering, did he go out and did he go in? | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
How do you find out more? | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
The best place to go to find, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
you know, to go to find the information is go to Ohio. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
All right. Well, thanks for the start. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
-You're welcome. -You did a lot of the work for me. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
All right! | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
-Oh, the journey begins. -I know! | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
I'll see what I find and I'll come back and let you know. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
You have to come back and tell me what you found. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
-I'm going to keep it a secret. -No. -You're not allowed to know. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
No! I have to know! I started! | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
Finding out my three-times great- grandfather Isaiah Rose was fighting | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
on the Union side of the Civil War - that's a relief. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
To me, the Union side was fighting for freedom for all Americans. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
I think that that's a huge thing to recognise, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
like, you know, what it is to be a free man, a free woman. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
So I'm curious, why did Isaiah Rose fight | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
and what was he doing in two different Union regiments? | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
Because Isaiah began his service in Ohio, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
Kelly is heading to the state capital, Columbus. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
Kelly has arranged to meet Civil War researcher Vonnie Zullo | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
at the Ohio Historical Society. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
Vonnie has found some records relating to | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
Isaiah Rose's Civil War service. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
-Well, I'm going to be able to give you some information about him. -OK. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
-So why don't we start with this envelope? -OK! | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
These are copies of his compiled military service record. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:37 | |
"When enrolled - April 23rd, 1861." | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
Didn't the war start around then? Like, did he enrol right away? | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
Yes. He enrolled right after the war started. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
-A hero? -The first shots were fired at Fort Sumter... | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
-Yeah. -..like, April 12th of '61. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
-Oh, so that was fairly quickly, right? -And so right after that. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
So do you think since Isaiah joined so quickly | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
that he was, you know, quite the patriot? | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
Is that like... Was he against slavery? | 0:07:01 | 0:07:02 | |
It's really hard to know | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
-exactly what would have been in his mind, you know... -Obviously. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
..as an individual solider. But I do know | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
that there was a lot of patriotic feelings in Ohio, in his home town. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:16 | |
In 1860, Abraham Lincoln's plans to stop the spread of the slave trade | 0:07:18 | 0:07:23 | |
caused Southern states to secede and form their own confederacy. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
This ignited fierce opposition in the North, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
especially in Isaiah Rose's home state of Ohio. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
The state had a history of abolitionism | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
and a network of safe houses for slaves escaping from the South. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
Ohio became a Union stronghold and was one of the top three states | 0:07:40 | 0:07:45 | |
to supply soldiers to the Union lines. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
And so he might have been caught up in that movement. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
-In the high part. -Definitely. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:52 | |
So this is the 18th Regiment, and he was there for three months. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
And why would you join another one - | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
like, why would he go to the 63rd? | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
-Well, let's take a look... -OK. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
..at the records for the 63rd. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
Awesome. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
All right, so Isaiah Rose, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
"term - three years". | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
Well, he went from three months to three years. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
By December of '61, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
the reality of the war had sunk in. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
So President Lincoln and his generals decided, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
you know, "This is not going to be over quickly. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
"We need more soldiers and they need to serve for longer." | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
-Was that a drafted thing? -No. -Or they chose? -No, they chose. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
-They chose? -He chose to go back in and re-enlist. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
I'm super proud that Isaiah chose to... | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
I mean, he chose to enlist. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:37 | |
Yeah. Based on that he was, you know, he was patriotic, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
-he was believing in what he was... -Fighting for. -..getting involved in, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
and very enthusiastic about it. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
Well, I love that. OK. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
So, 63rd Ohio Infantry, Company F | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
at Battle of Decatur, Georgia? | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
I'm horrible at this. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
I can't read it. "Taken prisoner"? | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
Oh, my gosh! No! | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
That's horrible. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
"Taken prisoner at Battle of Decatur, Georgia, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
"July 22nd, 1864." | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
So do we know...? Cos this is the last card, so what happens? | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
You're going to need to go to Decatur to really learn | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
about what happened at that battle. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
-And what happened to him... -OK. -..as a prisoner. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
-Thank you for your time. -You're welcome. It's been fun. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
When you're talking about men fighting in wars, you think men, you don't think boys. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
My three-times great-grandfather was 19 years old | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
when he was fighting a war, you know, in his own country. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
Civil War is almost worse than, you know, war from afar | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
cos that's your home, you're fighting the people that you live with. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
I imagine being a prisoner of war in that time probably wasn't too cool. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
I'm just curious of, you know, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:52 | |
how that went down and what happened afterwards. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
I can't wait to find out. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
Kelly is heading to Decatur, Georgia, where Isaiah was captured | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
during the Civil War. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:02 | |
Kelly has arranged to meet historian Tim Orr | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
at the DeKalb History Centre. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
She's searching for information on the battle that Isaiah fought in | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
and what happened to him after he was taken prisoner. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
Thank you so much, Tim, for meeting with me. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
Just to get you caught up, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:21 | |
I've found out my three-times great-grandfather, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
Isaiah Rose, was captured in the Battle of Decatur. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
And I was just curious to know if you really knew anything to help... | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
The Battle of Decatur was a part of much larger military operation | 0:10:30 | 0:10:35 | |
called the Atlanta Campaign. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:36 | |
By 1864, three years of fighting had crushed the morale | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
of the Northern states, casting doubt on Lincoln's re-election. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:47 | |
In need of a decisive victory, General Sherman of the Union army | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
launched a major assault on the key Confederate hub of Atlanta, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
known as the Atlanta Campaign. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
Isaiah Rose's regiment acted in the Battle of Decatur, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
one of a series of bloody battles that raged over four months. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:06 | |
But in early September, the Union army captured the city, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
inflicting a devastating defeat on the Confederates. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
-We do have a battlefield map of... -Oh, that's cool! -..the engagement. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
-All right. -Wow. -Do you see Decatur on the map? | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
I do. Decatur. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
-All right, this where the battle action of July 22nd took place. -OK. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
The battle was kind of an important one | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
because it was a fight over a supply line | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
that was supplying the Union army. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
-OK. -One single brigade, which Isaiah's a part of... | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
-Yeah. -..is given that task of defending this area. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
He was six miles away from the front at this point. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
He thought it was light duty, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
but in fact the Confederates kind of proved him and his comrades wrong | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
and on the afternoon of July 22nd sent a force of cavalry, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
the horseman of their army - several thousand, in fact - | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
from the city, around south and they came up behind the Union lines. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:58 | |
And there the Confederates came out of the woods, encircled them, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
and it was probably no contest there. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
The Union soldiers either had to retreat or surrender. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
Wow. OK. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
I have the battle report of the 63rd Ohio, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
which was Isaiah Rose's regiment. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:13 | |
-Oh. -It discusses the action at the Battle of Decatur. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
OK. Awesome. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
So "the enemy attacked on all sides with a very superior force | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
"and after two hours of hard fighting | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
"we were finally driven out of the town. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
"Ten killed, 44 wounded | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
"and 31 missing." | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
He was probably one of the 31. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:32 | |
Yes, almost certainly. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
They stood their ground, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:35 | |
and ultimately those Union soldiers that fell as casualties, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
killed, wounded or captured, I think made an incredible sacrifice. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
And taking on the brunt of everything | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
-to actually help supply the big huge battle going on? -Absolutely. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:48 | |
And there's a high possibility that if Atlanta had not fallen, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
Lincoln would have not have been re-elected. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
-The Confederacy might have won the Civil War. -That's huge. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
-Epically. -Yeah. Wow! | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
OK, so he's taken prisoner, so how do I find out which camp | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
my three-times great-grandfather Isaiah went to? | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
Well, we can search for that online. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
OK. Isaiah Rose... | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
Let's see what comes up. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
OK, there we go. Isaiah Rose, side of the Union. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
"Federal prisoners of war confined at Andersonville, Georgia, 1864-65." | 0:13:18 | 0:13:23 | |
So Andersonville, Georgia, that's where... Is that where a camp was? | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
Yes, indeed. Actually the largest prisoner of war camp in the Confederacy. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
Over 45,000 stayed there during 14 months of activity. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
-45,000 people were there? -Mm-hm. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
-Wow. OK. -We have an original document, so let's give that a whirl | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
and see what comes up. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:42 | |
"View original document." | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
All right, so what I'm noticing, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
"Isaiah Rose, private, Company F, 63rd Ohio" - that's him. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
So the column "Died, escaped, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
"paroled, exchanged or released." | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
I'm noticing everybody else has, like, "exchanged", "released". | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
His column says, "See volumes - miscellaneous records." | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
How do you find out what happened or what those miscellaneous records are? | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
I'll tell you what, I'll remain here | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
-and see what I can find as to the rest of his military career. -OK. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
I think you might want to go to Andersonville, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
which is a national historic site, and see if you can determine | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
a little bit about his prison experience. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
Yeah. Well, all right. I'll see you soon. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
I love that Tim told me the unsung story, you know, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
for the Battle of Decatur. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:35 | |
You know, I grew up playing basketball and sports and everything | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
and I think that everybody always remembers the Michael Jordans | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
but nobody remembers the people passing the ball. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
It's the kind of unnoticed sacrifices that Isaiah and his brigade made | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
that make the big victories even possible. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
I am a little hesitant about going to Andersonville Military Prison | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
because how sad is that, that all these thousands of people suffered | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
after fighting for our freedom? | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
To find out about Isaiah's experience as a prisoner of war, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
Kelly is visiting the location of the camp where he was held - | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
the Andersonville Historic Site and Cemetery. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
Today, most of the camp's original structures are gone, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
but park ranger Chris Barr is here | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
to tell Kelly what the camp looked like when Isaiah was a prisoner. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
-Hello, I'm Kelly. -Hey, I'm Chris. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
I've been looking into my three-times great-grandfather | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
Isaiah Rose, and he was taken to here, Andersonville Prison. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
I was curious, what does that mean? What are the conditions of | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
a military prison in the Civil War? | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
I'd be happy to help you out with that. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
This would have been the main entry point | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
for most prisoners coming in here. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
Our gates are reconstructed on the original spot | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
so if you'd like, let's maybe walk through the very gates that he did. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
-Yes, sir. -And let's explore this place. -All right. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
And so as he walked in here, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:52 | |
he'd be looking out across this valley | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
-and just see a sea of humanity out here. -Yeah. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
One prisoner said it looked like an ant hill that had been stirred up. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:03 | |
Andersonville prison camp was a large fenced-in stockade | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
completely open to the elements. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
No housing was provided. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
Isaiah Rose and his fellow POWs | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
were left to create their own makeshift tents | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
for shelter from the blazing heat and winter frosts. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
With a space for a maximum of 10,000 prisoners, the camp became | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
home to more than 45,000, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
making it a breeding ground for violence, starvation and disease. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:35 | |
The Confederate military prison policy was simply open the gates, | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
turn the prisoners in, close the gates | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
-and you're on your own on the inside. -Oh, my gosh. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
I have a first-person account from a prisoner named Robert H Kellogg. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
And this is his description of what the place looked like | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
when he arrived in May of 1864. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
Which is two months before my three- times great-grandfather got there? | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
-Exactly. -OK. -But the scene is still going to be pretty similar. -OK. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
"As we entered the place | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
"a spectacle met our eyes that almost froze our blood with horror. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
"Before us were forms that had once been active and erect, stalwart men, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
"now nothing but mere walking skeletons, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
"covered with filth and vermin. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:15 | |
"Many of our men, in the heat and intensity of their feeling, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
"exclaimed with earnestness, 'Can this be hell?'" | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
-Wow. -And this is a photograph of a prisoner | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
who was held here at Andersonville. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
And this is what he's talking about by walking skeletons. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
-This is what's here. -Oh, my gosh! | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
You can see his pelvic bone. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
Like, I mean, you can see... | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
I don't even... | 0:17:42 | 0:17:43 | |
I don't have words right now. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
I cannot imagine. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
"In the centre of the hole was a swamp | 0:17:53 | 0:17:58 | |
"occupying about three or four acres of the narrowed limits, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
"and a part of this marshy place had been used by the prisoners as a sink. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:06 | |
"Excrement covered the ground, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
"the scent arising from which was suffocating." Like, what is that? | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
What is that? That's like, where they washed their hands, their face? | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
What the sinks are is, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:17 | |
that's kind of the Civil War era term for the latrines. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
-They're using... -Oh, my God! | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
The restroom was the downstream end of the creek. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
Then of course, the upstream end of the creek | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
is where they're having to get their drinking water from. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
Oh, my God, like dysentery, like, there's so much stuff going on there. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
Dysentery, diarrhoea, as well as diseases related to nutrition. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
But a lot of it stems from that water. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
Of the 45,000 men who walked through those gates you came through, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
just under 13,000 of them died here. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
-Making this really the deadliest place in the Civil War. -Wow. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
Obviously, I'm here, so I know Isaiah survived this | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
but what happened whenever the war ended? | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
Like, what, they just opened the doors and people left | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
-or how did that happen? -If you just take a second | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
and tell me what that document says across the top there. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
"Record of escaped prisoners of war, USA." | 0:19:08 | 0:19:13 | |
Of escaped...? | 0:19:13 | 0:19:14 | |
Wait, row... | 0:19:16 | 0:19:17 | |
"Isaiah Rose". | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
Oh, my gosh! he escaped! | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
"Isaiah Rose, private, F, 63rd Ohio, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
"escaped Savannah, Georgia, December 1st '64." | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
I don't get it. Why does it all of a sudden mention Savannah? | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
In all likelihood, what happened was | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
he escaped in transit to another prison. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
They'd started to evacuate prisoners to other places around | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
and Savannah was one of the places they were taking prisoners to. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
Where did he go? If he escaped, like, what happens afterwards? | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
The circumstances of his escape, we don't know. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
For all we know, you know, he joined up with runaway slaves. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
For all we know, he hid in the swamp somewhere. We just don't know. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
All right. I guess that means I need to go back to Tim Orr in Atlanta. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
Thank you so much for all of this. This has been incredible. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
-Thank you for visiting us today. -All right, have a good one. -You too. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
I think the most powerful thing about Isaiah Rose's character | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
was the fact that he never gave up. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:18 | |
So many people died in the 14 months here at Andersonville. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
Still he persevered and he pushed through | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
and survived this horrible circumstance. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
I know that Isaiah escaped in December of 1864 | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
but where did he go? Like, did he return home? | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
Did he stay in hiding until the war ended? | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
To find out, Kelly is heading back to Atlanta | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
to see what new information Tim Orr has been able to turn up. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
So I learned a ton at Andersonville | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
and then I kind of ended there learning that he escaped. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
I remember you saying you were going to do some research. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
I was curious if you found anything. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:56 | |
Well, the best source we have, that are called the pension files, | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
they are sources that describe soldiers' infirmities after the war. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:04 | |
And I have a document that I think you'll find interesting. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
Very cool. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
"Declaration for an invalid pension. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
"On or about January 11th, 1865, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
"while making his escape from the rebel prison | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
"and while approaching the Union lines, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
"Isaiah Rose was wounded by a member of the 33rd Indiana infantry..." | 0:21:23 | 0:21:31 | |
-Oh, my God, he's shot? -So it would seem. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
Oh! "..who mistook him for a rebel soldier or scout." | 0:21:34 | 0:21:39 | |
He was shot by his own. That sucks. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
And then trying to get back, that is horrible. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
It is a spot of bad luck. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
Oh, man, this shows you exactly where the bullet went in. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
-Yep. -This is an examining surgeon certificate. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
"The examination reveals the following conditions. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
"We find the scar of the gunshot wound of the left leg, | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
"scar three inches long, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
"ball entered about four inches above the knee." | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
He says he has "pains when walking or standing, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
"disability permanent." | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
Man, to be so young and be disabled, you know, so quickly. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
And then you have your whole life kind of ahead of you, | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
that would have been really intense. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
There's this Patty Griffin song, like, I Will Never Give Up. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
That's the name of the song and it totally reminds me, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
that's one of my favourite songwriters. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
And it's cool, like, that was him. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
Quite a being I'm related to, so... | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
-Mm-hm. -Whew! | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
Yeah, I mean, he seems fairly indestructible. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
You know, and I often like to think about it this way. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
Also, we want to remember | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
-the accomplishments that generation made... -Yeah. -..for the long run. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
They freed 4 million Americans kept in bondage, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
and they preserved a government | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
where the people decide who leads them. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
And, you know, the fact that that government still stands today... | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
-Yeah. -..where you and I can participate in it | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
is an incredible legacy. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
I think what's really amazing and why I'm so emotional about it is | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
I just got to perform at an inauguration for a man... | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
..that would have never been able to be President | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
if it weren't for, you know... | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
Mm-hm. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:21 | |
..the sacrifice of my, you know, three-times great-grandfather. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
-Mm-hm. -I'm so crying about it, but it's happy tears. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
I'm just so emotional because it's like... I wish and I hope, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
you know, somewhere, not only my three-times great-grandfather | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
but all those people know, like, what they fought for mattered. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
I think if he were alive today, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
Isaiah Rose would be quite proud | 0:23:42 | 0:23:43 | |
-of his great, great, great-granddaughter. -Yeah. Pff! | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
Isaiah Rose was a patriot from '61 when he first volunteered | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
whenever Lincoln called for volunteers. He did it. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
He stayed in the war the entire time. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
He mustered out in, you know, '65 and mustered out a hero. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
You know, he survived so much | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
and helped keep these United States these United States. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
I'm definitely starting to feel the connection, and feel like, you know, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
I am Isaiah Rose's three-times great-granddaughter. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
Because I'm still a patriot in my own sense. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
Like, I still feel like I know what is right | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
and what is wrong in my heart, and I go for it regardless. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
And that had to have come from a long line, you know, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
of people that believe like that. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
I'm just really grateful that that's my past. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
To begin exploring Isaiah's life after the Civil War, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
Kelly is following his trail home to Washington County, Ohio. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
Kelly knows from her mother's research | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
that Isaiah was a coal miner - | 0:24:54 | 0:24:55 | |
a difficult profession for a man with a war injury. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
To find out if his disability affected his livelihood, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
Kelly is visiting the Washington County Archives | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
to meet genealogist Josh Taylor. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
-Ooh, I'm so excited. -So you're looking at a family folder, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
which is basically a folder of documents gathered by | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
potential other relatives, people who visited and did research here, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
-all about Isaiah Rose. -Oh, cool! OK. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
"The Leader, Marietta, Ohio," | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
"Tuesday, August 31st, 1886." | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
So he'd be about 43, 44 by now? | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
"Sheriff Rose, during his official career..." | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
That can't be him, right? Or... | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
What do you think? | 0:25:38 | 0:25:39 | |
He's a sheriff?! | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
He's like Tombstone?! He's a sheriff? | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
What does that mean? I'm so excited! | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
Oh, my God, OK, wait. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
"So say we, Sheriff Rose during his official career the past two years | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
"has made hosts of friends. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:54 | |
"He believes that public office is a public trust. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
"That he will be re-elected by a larger majority than two years ago | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
"is a conclusion accepted by both political parties." | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
So sometime around 1884, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
he ran for office, he ran to become the county sheriff, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
won the election, so now he's being re-elected. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
Because he's so popular! Right on. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
All right. "The Daily Register, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
"Marietta, Ohio, Wednesday, November 8th, 1905." | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
-So he's probably 63, 64? -Mm-hm. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
OK. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
Oh, my gosh! Is this his picture? | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
I didn't know that was his picture! | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
Oh, my gosh, that's what he looked like. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
Senator IR... | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
Senator?! He was a senator? | 0:26:40 | 0:26:41 | |
Mm-hm, state senator. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
I'm sorry, I can't... | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
"Late advices from the district show | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
"the election of the Republican candidate for Senate, Isaiah R Rose." | 0:26:50 | 0:26:55 | |
This is Lincoln's party, | 0:26:55 | 0:26:56 | |
I mean, he's a state senator as part of Lincoln's party. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
Oh, my gosh! | 0:26:59 | 0:27:00 | |
So he fought for Lincoln as a kid, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
like, grew up, became a man in the military in the Civil War, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
then back to the same party just still believing in the Union | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
and became a senator, a state senator? | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
I could not be more proud of this man. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
What in the world...? | 0:27:18 | 0:27:19 | |
And you can just see in his eyes in this picture - like, what a life. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
Oh, my goodness. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
So is there a way to find out what he was a part of politically? | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
-Like, what kind of laws he was part of? -Absolutely. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
For the next step, you can visit a colleague of mine | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
-actually in Columbus, Ohio. -Oh, OK. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
At the state house there. And keep in mind when you're there, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
you'll be walking literally in his footsteps. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
Well, I can't wait to find out. Oh, my goodness. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
-Thank you very much, Josh. -OK. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
I just love how much drive I'm seeing. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
I mean, he was this young kid in the war and he's shot, he has a bum leg. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
And he just still was a survivor. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
And then worked his way up, you know, to be a sheriff, and then a senator. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
I'm very driven, and I think that's because of my family. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
And it's cool to find out how far back that strength comes from. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:09 | |
I'm really just curious to know what laws he got behind. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
Because I'm very, you know, hardcore in my beliefs. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
And I hope I can stand behind, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
you know, what he believed in politically as well. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
Kelly is heading back to Columbus, to the Ohio State House, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
where she's meeting political historian Tom Pegram. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
Tom has been doing some research on Isaiah Rose's Senate career. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:36 | |
Would you be interested in seeing his office? | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
-Oh, definitely, yes, please. -Let's go. -Yeah. -Let's go see it. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
All right! Is it this way? OK. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
I can't believe I'm going to see where his office was. That's so cool. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
-This was his office, this is where he worked. -Thank you. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
Are you kidding me? | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
Yeah, not too shabby. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:00 | |
Oh, my goodness. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
That is amazing. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:04 | |
This is, like, extremely intimidating. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
I sing in front of people all the time | 0:29:11 | 0:29:12 | |
but I would be scared to death to talk in this room. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
This is where he sat in 1906 | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
at the beginning of his three-year term as senator. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
That is so weird that I'm, like, | 0:29:21 | 0:29:22 | |
sitting in a room where he was. That's super weird! | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
So is there any way to find out, like around that time, | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
what laws he was, you know, for? | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
Or like, what he was trying to pass | 0:29:31 | 0:29:32 | |
or what kind of legislation he was involved in? | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
These are newspapers from Ohio in the early part of the 20th century. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
-OK. -Those are the best records of political debate | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
and political issues in the state. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:44 | |
"The Repository, Friday, March 1906." | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
-So this is pretty early on in his political career? -Yes. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
-This is like, freshman year? -Yes. -OK. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
"Hot Talk From Rose - Senator Rose of Washington County, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
"the strongest temperance advocate in the senate." | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
-What is the temperance? -The temperance movement at this time | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
was a large movement in Ohio and elsewhere | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
-to restrict or even eliminate the liquor industry. -Oh! | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
So he's a part of the people that don't want liquor? | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
He is indeed a part of that. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
Oh! Hiccup in the ancestry department! | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
So he's, like, trying to wipe out all liquor? | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
Actually saloons, retail saloons. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
They didn't attack individual drinkers so much. The idea was | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
that the liquor industry, and that saloons, were for men mainly. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
Woman were generally not allowed. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
Yeah. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:35 | |
Pay cheques were cashed in saloons | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
and men spent a lot of time drinking in saloons. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
There was a great deal of domestic violence that accompanied drinking. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:44 | |
This was also seen as a women's issue. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
The argument was, the saloon then was hampering their family life, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:51 | |
their children's lives, health, safety. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
Well, right on. I'm glad he's for women. That's awesome. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
"Senator Rose several weeks ago introduced a county option bill." | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
So what is the county option bill? | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
County option gets the issue down to the local level. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
It allows the people themselves | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
to decide whether they want to regulate saloons or not. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
OK. "Thursday morning, | 0:31:12 | 0:31:13 | |
"February 27th, 1908." | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
Yes, this is the last year of his term. He has to act. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
Yeah. I bet he's pushing hard. OK. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
"After more than two hours' debate, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
"the house this evening passed the county option bill | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
"introduced and championed by Senator Isaiah R Rose of Washington County. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:30 | |
"The measure will now go to the governor | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
"and it is generally expected that he will sign it." | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
Oh, my gosh, he actually got it to pass. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
He got it through the legislature. Now it's up to the governor. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
There would be a ceremony here, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
there would be a lot of rejoicing from the temperance people. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
It would go to the governor's desk, the governor was co-operative | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
-and he did sign it. -He did? -Yes. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
That is so exciting. And he's a freshman senator, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
-you know, when he started this. -Yep. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
And being a freshman senator, I'm imagining that would be unheard of? | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
-They are usually very unassuming. They don't rock the boat. -Yeah. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
He put a motor on the boat. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
I love it! | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
He has fire! That's awesome. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
OK, so I'm imagining since he is a freshman senator | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
and he was kind of rocking the boat, | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
he made a lot of enemies on the other side. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
How do you know, like, if he continued in his political career? | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
-Did he get re-elected? -Well, let's see. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
"The Marion Weekly Star, Saturday, November 11th, 1908." | 0:32:24 | 0:32:29 | |
So November, so this is election time. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
"Senator Rose Down And Out." | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
Oof! Not a good headline. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
"The official count is in for the Ninth and Fourteenth districts | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
"and Senator IR Rose, father of the Rose county option bill, is defeated. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:44 | |
"Semi-official returns proclaimed Rose's election, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
"but the count beats him by 32." | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
Not a lot. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
So wait, it's saying that people thought he won | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
so they were already saying, like, congratulations? | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
The original reports were that he had won. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
They were celebrating, and then the formal count came out | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
and he had lost by, you know, less than three dozen votes. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
-Oh, my goodness! -Isaiah Rose became the particular target | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
of the organised liquor industry and its supporters. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
They pooled their resources, and they got him out of office. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
Yeah. Well, you know, it's funny, it doesn't surprise me | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
that he went down fighting for something he believed in | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
because he kind of had that whole past. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
He definitely was the guy that, like, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
stood up for what he believed in and fought for. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
So what did he do now? | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
-Well, we have one more document. -Oh, the book. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
"Washington County, Ohio to 1890." | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
"The grandparent I remember best was Isaiah R Rose." | 0:33:39 | 0:33:44 | |
So this is just like an account book | 0:33:44 | 0:33:45 | |
of people putting together all their knowledge? | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
-Yes. -Of their families? -Local communities would do that. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
Oh, my gosh! | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
"Isaiah R Rose family." | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
-So that's Isaiah Rose right here? -Yes, it is. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
In the middle? Oh, my goodness! | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
"In 1866, he married Melissa Ellen Crawford. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
"They made their home in Coal Run and raised a family of seven children." | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
Man, they had some kids, didn't they? | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
-Yes, they did. -Whew! | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
"His death came on Thanksgiving Day, | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
"November 26th, 1916 at his home. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:22 | |
"He lies in historic Round Bottom Cemetery near Coal Run." | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
(Wow!) | 0:34:30 | 0:34:31 | |
That's Coal Run, Washington County, that's not far from here, right? | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
No, that's not far. It's outside of Marietta. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
Well, this is his story. I just finished it up. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
Thank you so much. Now I know, like, where he's buried. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
And I would really love to go see it. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
-All right, well, thank you very much, Tom. -OK. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
Good day! | 0:34:51 | 0:34:52 | |
'It's cool to know and relay back with my family that | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
'my three-times great-grandfather did not abandon anything.' | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
You know, he was so relentless in his morals and in his beliefs. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:02 | |
It makes me feel just really proud, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
and know why, you know, I stand up for things. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
It's because it's in my blood. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
The coolest part now is, you know, I'm at the end of his journey | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
and now I get to see where Isaiah, you know, rests in peace. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
And I get to go visit his grave, and I'm pretty stoked about that. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
'Just to like, you know, have a cool ending to such an amazing journey | 0:35:28 | 0:35:33 | |
'that I've been on, you know, finding out about his life.' | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
Oh, my God, this is like, my whole family. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
Prentice C Rose... | 0:35:48 | 0:35:49 | |
Prentice C Rose. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
Oh, my goodness! | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
Leslie Rose! That's my two-times great-grandfather! | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
I did not expect to find you here. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
So it's like a Rose graveyard. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
Mary Rose. Melissa Rose... | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
Oh, my goodness. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
Isaiah R Rose. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
I'm your three-times great-granddaughter. What's up? | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
I brought you these. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
Oh, my gosh. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
I just took a long journey, man. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
You have had a well-lived life. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
Thank you so much for being just such a...a hero. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
'You know what, you would think that coming to pay respects' | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
would be a sad part of this journey | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
but oddly enough, it's been just a celebration for me. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
All right, love you. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
'My mother and I, you know, I started this journey off, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
'we're not really connected to our families. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
'I mean, her maiden name is Rose, so to walk into this cemetery' | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
and see just what a life and legacy that name is, it's pretty amazing. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:16 | |
This whole thing has made me just kind of feel like, way more connected | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
than I thought I was going to be. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
I think everybody should do this because it has just lit a fire in me | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
and I'm very excited and it's just cool to know your story. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
You know, not your own, but your family's. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
Kelly's journey was started by her mother's research. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
So she's heading back to Nashville, to tell her what she's discovered. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
I can't wait to show her | 0:37:43 | 0:37:44 | |
the strength and perseverance that exist in our family line. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
-Hi, Mom! -Hey, sweetheart. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:49 | |
'And I'm hoping my discoveries about Isaiah will give her | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
'the sense of family connection that she's been looking for.' | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
At the beginning of this, I was like, my mother's so strong | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
and I'm a pretty strong individual, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
there must have been people in our past that were just as strong. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
And what's funny is to find out that | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
your two-times great and my three-times great-grandfather | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
Isaiah Rose is really the pillar of strength with our family. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
He signs up to be in the Civil War. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
-He got taken prisoner. Have you ever heard of Andersonville Prison? -Yes. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:17 | |
You have?! | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
Yes. That was a horrible place. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:20 | |
-It is mind-blowing when you go there. -You went there? -Yeah. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
One in three soldiers that went into Andersonville died. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
I mean, you have to really want to live | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
-to get through something like that. -Yeah. -That is amazing. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:34 | |
'I think my mother and I, we're both really very honest with the fact | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
'that we don't feel really connected at all with our families.' | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
And I think it was cool to be able to show her a story of how, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
you know what, we come from a long line of strugglers | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
but at the end of the day, we survive. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
And then he ends up running for Senate. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:56 | |
I know. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:57 | |
Just amazing, this guy that is always kind of up against the odds, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
you know, and just... and doesn't get knocked down. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
But you see, that's why I wanted to look. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
-I wanted to know about our ancestors. -Yeah. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
I wanted to know, do we have any of those traits? | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
Yeah. And we do. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
-I know. -And that's what I find amazing, that we didn't know that, | 0:39:14 | 0:39:18 | |
that we came from that. You know, it's in our blood. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
'It's innate that you need family.' | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
Although I've tried a couple times previously in my life | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
to mend some fences either with my father or other people in my family, | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
like, I think it's just time... You know what, | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
maybe it's that thing where it's like Isaiah, you just don't give up. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
You just keep trying and keep trying. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
I think that that's a very powerful thing. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
I'm glad you got to do this. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
This was the coolest thing I've by far done in my life, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
finding out, like... I think it's the coolest thing anybody can find out. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
Finding out where you come from. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:51 | |
-And I can't wait to figure out what else we can find out. -I know. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
-Yeah. You want to hug it out? -Yes. -Bring it in, team hug. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
-Thank you, baby. -All right. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 |