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John Simpson is one of the most familiar faces on BBC News. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:13 | |
His nose for a story has taken him to revolutions and war zones | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
from Tiananmen Square to Afghanistan, | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
where he was smuggled in wearing a burqa. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
This is the front line in a war | 0:00:22 | 0:00:23 | |
that's been almost completely forgotten. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
EXPLOSION | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
'Being in dangerous places, from time to time, | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
'I always have a rather crazy, silly, perhaps,' | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
feeling that I can kind of get out of anything. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
As a journalist, John is used to digging out stories | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
and asking difficult questions. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
But he hasn't always had the time to delve into his own past. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
My wife says I mustn't... mustn't break down in tears. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
"Whatever happens," | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
she said, "It doesn't matter what they do to you, do not cry." | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
'I wanted to take part in this programme | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
'because as I've got older I think I've become' | 0:01:00 | 0:01:05 | |
much more interested in my own family. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
And that is your sort of great-great-grandfather. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:14 | |
He was the first man to fly in Britain. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
I was brought up with stories about Sam Cody, my sharp shooting, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:23 | |
cowboy, aviator, great-grandfather. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
And I loved the old boy. I mean, I've got huge respect for him. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:32 | |
And he used to charge around on his horse, with his gun. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
He was a brilliant shot, and a brilliant horse rider. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
'One of the problems that you have with Cody, and with Mrs Cody,' | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
was that they both told the most amazing number of lies | 0:01:44 | 0:01:49 | |
about their past. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:50 | |
You know, there are a hell of a lot of questions that remain unanswered | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
and, I mean, I want to tell my little boy about it. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
I want to tell my daughters and my grandchildren what really happened. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
This is my father when he was about 25 or 26, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:38 | |
and my mother and me. I think I remember, but I don't suppose I do, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:43 | |
being photographed there. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
I don't have enough clear memories of her. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
Hmm. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:51 | |
My mother left my father when I was seven. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:58 | |
And what I remember | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
was standing on the doorstep with the two of them, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
with my mother already packed and prepared to go | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
and to take me with her. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
And my father standing there saying, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
"Don't you think we ought to ask the boy who he wants to go with?" | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
And so I thought about it and I chose, for better for worse, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:23 | |
I chose my father. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:24 | |
My mother was in a terrible state, as you... | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
I mean, you know, I'd rejected her and she left. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
And so I kind of lost contact | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
with that whole side of the family. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
But there is one member of his mother's family | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
that John had always heard stories about. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
Sam Cody is, far and away, the most glamorous figure | 0:03:50 | 0:03:55 | |
that I've got any personal association with. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
I always assumed that I was Cody's great-grandson. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
But my father realised that the ages of Cody's supposed children | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
didn't quite match up, and that Mrs Cody must have had children | 0:04:08 | 0:04:13 | |
by a prior relationship, by a prior marriage. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
And then it all came out that they ran off together. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
The biggest of the Cody myths was that he was married | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
to my great-grandmother. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
Now I know he's no blood relative of mine. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
That doesn't matter in slightest bit. I admire him immensely. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:36 | |
But it's very difficult to know where the precise truth lies | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
and where storytelling comes in. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
I'm really, really interested to know where that division is | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
between truth and invention. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
American cowboy Samuel Cody first made his name | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
touring Britain with his Wild West Shows. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
But as the 20th century dawned, he wanted to conquer a new frontier. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
It was a time when many magnificent men were trying to take to the air. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
And in 1908, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:20 | |
Samuel Cody became the first man to fly an aircraft in Britain. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
John's visiting Farnborough, the site of Cody's first flight. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
'I really want to know how this cowboy on the ranges | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
'of the Far West turned into an aviator.' | 0:05:37 | 0:05:42 | |
Welcome to Farnborough. Thank you very much. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
He's meeting aviation enthusiast David Wilson | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
at the National Aerospace Library | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
to find out how Cody got into flying. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
Cody was making a jolly good living in the Wild West Shows | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
that he was taking part in. | 0:05:58 | 0:05:59 | |
He was...he was a "shootist". | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
And, at that same time, he made several approaches to the War Office | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
in an attempt to get them to accept his brilliant invention. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
This is the Cody Kite. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
No, really? | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
Cody developed kites which would carry a man. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
Oh, that's him! | 0:06:17 | 0:06:18 | |
Yes. Good Lord! | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
But how gutsy. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
Cody knew that the man-carrying kite had military value, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:28 | |
reconnaissance value. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:29 | |
Because if you could get a man higher, then he could see further. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
Yes. So, he tried to sell the patents to the army. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
You can imagine, a man with a ponytail | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
and a funny accent. And his flamboyance, you know. Of course. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
It doesn't fit the easily with army discipline. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
No, of course. So, this is the sort of response he got. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
9th May 1903. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
"Sir, with reference to your letters. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
"I am directed by the Secretary of State for War to inform you | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
"that after very careful consideration of your invention..." | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
dot, dot, dot, | 0:06:57 | 0:06:58 | |
"..it is not proposed to take any further action in the matter, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
"the man-lifting kite not being considered suitable | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
"for army purposes." Yes. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
It's so snotty and superior, isn't it? Yeah. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
PLUMMY ACCENT: "At the same time I am to thank you | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
"for communicating with this department." | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
Well, of course, I'm so much on Cody's side in all of this | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
and I've got nothing but contempt for these people. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
I mean, how did he take rejection? | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
Well, he just didn't take no for an answer. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
He was so convinced he was right and he had a valuable invention | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
that he would keep banging on and on and on and on. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
But, eventually, he is taken on... Oh. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
..by the British Army. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
It meant that he was around when the services | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
branched out into airships. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
We have here a picture of the gondola of the airship | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
which was built by the British Army, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
and it was called Nulli Secundus, "second to none". | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
That's Cody, there. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
They put him in charge of the engine, | 0:07:53 | 0:07:54 | |
and he was one of the very few people who could start this engine. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
Really. So, this is the first example of cowboy engineering. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
On Saturday, 5th October 1907, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
Cody and his boss flew the airship, Nulli Secundus, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
from Farnborough to London. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
But while the British were messing around with airships, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
the rest of the world was developing aeroplanes. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
The American Wright brothers had first flown in secret in 1903, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
but kept their designs under wraps for five years. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
When they finally demonstrated their plane at Le Mans, France, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
on 8th August 1908, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
they became international celebrities overnight. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
This was the sort of flying that Cody dreamed of. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
Whenever he had a spare moment | 0:08:43 | 0:08:44 | |
whilst working for the War Office, he built his own aircraft. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
And in Farnborough there's a replica of his first plane. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:53 | |
Is it exactly like Cody's? | 0:08:53 | 0:08:54 | |
Oh, exactly... | 0:08:54 | 0:08:55 | |
..a replica of the very first aircraft to fly in the UK. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
Look at it, I mean, it has kind of pram wheels, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
and bits of cloth, and, oh, "Please Do Not Touch," it says. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
You know, and just with bits of wood and wire. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
I mean, how gutsy must that have been? | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
I would have loved to have flown in this. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
When Cody first flew, first of all, he couldn't have lessons. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
Right. It's obvious. Secondly... No-one to teach him. No. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
..and, secondly, you don't know whether the aircraft works. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
And, thirdly, you don't have an airfield. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
But apart from that, it's brilliant. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:36 | |
Apart from that, it's easy, yeah, yes. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
I want to show you this. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:39 | |
"The Army Aeroplane. Accident at Farnborough." | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
You don't mean to tell me that's the first flight. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
That's the headline. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:48 | |
"Accident at Farnborough," right, OK. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
"The Army aeroplane fell to the ground from a height of 40 feet | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
"and broke the right wing..." | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
That one? Yes. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:57 | |
"..during a trial flight at Farnborough yesterday morning. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
"Mr Cody, who was sitting in the steering seat at the time..." | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
Sounds as though he had nothing to do with it. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
"..fell with the machine but was not hurt." | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
Oh, good old boy. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:09 | |
But the press was there, and the photograph was taken. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
Hmm. There's the evidence of the first flight. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
This is wonderful. British Army Aeroplane No 1. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
There's the old boy fiddling around with the joystick. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
Absolutely magnificent. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
When you take off, you know, flying quarter of a mile, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
40 feet in the air, that's brave. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
Oh, absolutely, I mean, people would say suicidal. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
What guts that took. Yes, right. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
What sheer, sheer guts. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
And, I mean, how could you have the ability, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
self-taught ability, to fly a thing as complicated as this? | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
What I can offer you is an experience of flying it, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
in complete safety. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:51 | |
How could you do that? | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
Well, this simulator is an exact replica of that cockpit. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:58 | |
So, I'd like to invite you to step in...carefully. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
OK. All right. It's quite strong, but... | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
And what we're going to do, we'll take off, we'll do a 180 left | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
and then we'll do another 180 left, and find that runway. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
Where do we crash? | 0:11:12 | 0:11:13 | |
We shall attempt to get on the runway. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
Yeah, you'll be lucky if I can get on the runway. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
Well, we'll go flying. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:20 | |
Power coming on...now! | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
And I want you to do 35 miles an hour, and then pull back. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
How do I know how fast it is? | 0:11:27 | 0:11:28 | |
You'll feel the wind in your face. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
Cody flew by the seat of his pants. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
He had no instrument panels, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:36 | |
no altimeters or speedometers. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
I don't seem to be... | 0:11:39 | 0:11:40 | |
There you go, you're airborne now. Oh, yes! | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
Now don't let it get too steep. Fantastic! | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
Gentle! That was a bit sharp. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
That was a bit much. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:48 | |
But it is tiny little movements, isn't it? | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
Yes, it is. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:52 | |
I see, I see, I see. Awesome! | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
Fantastic! | 0:11:56 | 0:11:57 | |
You've already flown for longer than your predecessor. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
Cody was in the air for just 27 seconds, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
but he made history as it was the first heavier than air, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
powered, controlled and sustained flight in Britain. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
I'm going to cut the engine now. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
Now you are gliding. Keep the nose down a bit, push it, push it. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
That's it, not much! Oops. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:23 | |
That's much too much turn. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
Oh, Cody would be really cross with me by now. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
Ah! | 0:12:28 | 0:12:29 | |
Oh, no! | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
Aaah! | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
Crash. Ha-ha! | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
Have I landed? | 0:12:38 | 0:12:39 | |
That was better than Cody's landing. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
Well, that's nice. You didn't break the aeroplane. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
Well, what an experience. Wonderful, wonderful. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
Well done. Thank you. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:49 | |
So, he's made his first flight in this. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
He's crashed. Yes. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
What does he do then? He says he'll fly again. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
He sets about building the new aircraft | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
and the new aircraft was ready by the end of January 1909. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
Yes. He then went flying again in February. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
And then, out of the blue, came this. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
"Confidential. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
"Sir, I am commanded by the Army Council to inform you that, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:17 | |
"in view of the changes which are contemplated in connection | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
"with balloons and flying machines, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
"it has been decided to terminate the engagement of Mr SF Cody." | 0:13:21 | 0:13:26 | |
Well, why did they..? | 0:13:26 | 0:13:27 | |
Why did they do that? | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
This was one of the decisions the generals made. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
They perceived that it was not worthwhile wasting | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
defence money on the development of fixed wing aeroplanes | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
and if people wanted to do that, it should be done | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
by private individuals at their own expense. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
So, what did he do then? | 0:13:43 | 0:13:44 | |
Well, he built six more aeroplanes. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
And he earned his living by giving flying lessons, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
by entering competitions, by winning prizes. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
He did a lot of that, did he? He did a huge amount of it, yes. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
There was a round-Britain race. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
Yes. And we have some evidence of his popularity with the crowd. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
That's one of the nicest pictures I've seen. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
Look at the little smile on his face, yes. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
He did more to popularise flying in the UK | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
than anybody before or since, I think. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
So now he was plotting all sorts of activities, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
including building No.6 aircraft, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
which was the water plane and it had wheels fitted to it. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
And that's what he used to demonstrate all sorts of principles, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
including pleasure flying, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
which, again, was a way in which he made his living. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
And it was during a pleasure flight | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
that the final accident took place. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
When he died? When it went wrong, yes. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
And so this is the newspaper article about the death. Mmm. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:42 | |
Oh this is... I find this really sad now, even now. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
"Dashed To Death. Flying Disaster At Aldershot | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
"Colonel Cody & Passenger Killed." | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
He was 52 years of age. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
Is that it? That's not true, no. He was 46. 46. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
Cos he'd put six years on his age. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
To match.. Mm-hm. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
..my great grandmother. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:03 | |
And she took years off. Yes. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
I think it was probably because of the children. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
They were hers, not his. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
So, on 7th August... 7th, yes. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
"The biplane crashed into a clump of trees and was smashed to fragments. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
"Colonel Cody was killed instantly." | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
That's a picture of the fatal wreckage. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
"The most tragic feature of the disaster was that Mr Cody's sons, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
"Leon and Frank, both saw the accident from their father's hangar. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
"He was killed before their eyes | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
"and they were utterly powerless to help him. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
"Leon, who was to have gone up with his father on the fatal trip, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
"but gave way to Mr Evans, rushed wildly to the spot, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
"despite all efforts to restrain him." | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
Aww. | 0:15:58 | 0:15:59 | |
"Forcing his way through the cordon of soldiers guarding the place, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
"he flung himself across the terribly injured body of his father | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
"as it rested on a stretcher. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
"'Dad..! | 0:16:16 | 0:16:17 | |
"'Dad!' he cried." | 0:16:18 | 0:16:19 | |
But he was there and he, you know, ran over. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
This is really, really sad. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
Mmm. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:51 | |
Cody had a hero's funeral. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
He was buried with full military honours. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
More than 1,000 soldiers marched in the funeral procession, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
and over 50,000 people came to pay their respects. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
John's great-grandmother, Lela, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
received a message from King George V, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
expressing his sympathy. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
In it, the King called her "Mrs Cody", | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
which cemented the myth that she was married to Samuel. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
"In loving memory of Samuel Franklin Cody, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
"aviator and inventor, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
"who was killed while flying over Laffan's Plain | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
"on 7th August 1913. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
"Also of Lela Marie, his wife. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
"Died 5th February 1939, aged 87." | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
So, she must have been... | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
My maths is never terribly good. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
She must have been 61 when he died. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
And he was probably only 46, 47. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
It must have been fairly obvious to people | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
that there was this big discrepancy, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
which is why Cody had to pretend | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
he was older than he was to have had the children that were Lela's. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
They couldn't actually have been born | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
during the time that he was with my great-grandmother. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
I wish I had known all these people better, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
well, the ones whose lives overlapped with me. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
I so would have loved to hear the stories and talked | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
much, much more to all of them. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
Having been out of touch with his mother's family for many years, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
John wants to reconnect with another of Lela's great-grandsons, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
his second cousin, Peter Cody. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
Hello, Peter. Hello, John. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
Very, very nice to see you. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:55 | |
Peter has family memorabilia that John has never seen. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
I've been delving through the boxes and different things, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
and I've got some items here to show you. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
This is a little item, Daily Sketch. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
Yes. And this is Lela. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
She was the first woman in Great Britain to go up into a kite. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:19 | |
Really. In one of SF Cody's man-lifting kites. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:24 | |
My God. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
So the first woman to fly in the British Isles... | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
..in the British Isles was Lela Cody. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
Not bad. Yes. Not bad. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
But there's an interesting little item here | 0:19:34 | 0:19:35 | |
saying about her life with Cody... | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
Oh, yeah. ..and things that happened over the years. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
"I remember I was up in the air on that occasion | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
"from ten to fifteen minutes. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
"When someone reminded my husband that I was still up in the air | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
"he exclaimed, 'Good God, yes!' | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
"and hauled me down. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
"Afraid? No, I wasn't a bit afraid, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
"I never knew what nerves were in those days, | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
"especially when with him." | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
Well, I think he was magnificent, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
but, I mean, she wasn't much less magnificent herself, was she? | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
No. No, no, no. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:07 | |
"He had once said, pointing to a camp fire, that if he told me | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
"to walk through that fire I would do it and I would willingly too. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
"I never disobeyed my husband in anything. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
"His word was always my law." | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
Well, tell that to my wife. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:23 | |
Well, I know who wears the trousers in my house. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
I'm so glad you've got these things. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
Oh, yes, that's her. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:35 | |
This is an original. Oh. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
SF Cody... | 0:20:37 | 0:20:38 | |
..and family. My God, they look handsome. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
The family were called "King of Cowboys", | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
and they performed on stage in his little Wild West Show. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
And this is Leon. Yes. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
This is grandfather Vivian. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
Your grandfather. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:54 | |
And this is Ted. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
Oh, yes. None of those were Cody's kids. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
They weren't, no. They were Lela's children. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
Yes. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:03 | |
And they were... By this man, King. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
..by King. Yes. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:07 | |
And they were formed into the Cody family. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
When Lela left John's real great-grandfather, Edward King, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
she took her three sons with her. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
Vivian and Leon were young enough to pass as Cody's children. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
Their older brother, Edward, became cousin, Ted LeRoy, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
and John's grandmother, Liese, only six years younger than Cody, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
was not included in the Cody family at all. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
My grandmother, she was the eldest of the four children, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
but she didn't play any part in the act. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
No, no. She got left behind. She got left behind, I think. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
Perhaps she didn't want to. Yes. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
It's an intriguing family, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
but they all worked together very well, doing sharp shooting now. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
It was every young lad's adventure come true. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
Imagine, yes. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
This is Grandfather, Vivian... | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
Right. ..as a young lad. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
Your grandfather. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:00 | |
What sort of age would you think? | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
He's probably about seven years old, there. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
So, he's very young. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:05 | |
My kid's seven years old, I wouldn't trust him with a rifle. No, no. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
But we have one when they were on tour. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
Gosh, he looks very kind of Wild West. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
And she looks very kind of regal. Yeah. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
I've never seen any of these. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
Lela. Oh, yes, look, there! | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
You'll notice round the star of this target, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
there are little spheres round there. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
And SF Cody would not only just fire at them, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
but he would use a mirror | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
and fire backwards. Good God. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
I mean, whatever would the health and safety people make of this? | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
They would go mad. They would. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:40 | |
I've got another little piece here of Lela. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
My God, they're right close up to her! | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
She wore blood red tights so that it didn't show | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
she had a little nick, occasionally, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
with a bullet, or one of the balls exploded from the target. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
Can you imagine that? She was very brave. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
Shall I move these over? | 0:22:57 | 0:22:58 | |
Yes, please, John, yeah. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
He had some very odd shaped posters printed in those days. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
This is, again, shooting. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
And this was an actual one used. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
Oh! I've never seen this. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
"Cody Famous Shooter." Yes. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
This shows the glass balls round the little target as well. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
She's legless there, I'm afraid, but... | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
Mind you, she might've had to have a drink, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
to stand behind the target. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:22 | |
You never know. Extraordinary. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
It was lovely to see my great-grandmother | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
with all these sort of balmy bulbs around her and everything. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
It's absolutely lovely. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
I'm really quite moved by it | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
and I'd like to know more now about how they learned to shoot | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
and who they all were and what the background was. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:53 | |
Intrigued by the family shooting act, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
John is visiting a reconstructed Western town in Kent... | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
Howdy, partner. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
Howdy, John. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:13 | |
..to meet another Wild West showman called Cody, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
Tod Cody. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:18 | |
So your Codys are... | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
Where do they come from? | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
Our Codys are originally Irish American. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
It was C-O-A-D-Y. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
From the States? Yeah, yep, yep, yep. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
They originated in the States? | 0:24:31 | 0:24:32 | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah. My dad came over here early '50s... | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
Fantastic. ..and we've stayed here pretty much since, yeah. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
What a tradition there. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
Well, we just try and keep it going. Yes. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
It's hard work now, but we keep it going. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
I want to show you some pictures | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
that I was shown yesterday | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
of fancy shooting. Sure. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
There's my great-grandmother. Yeah. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
That's where she stood. Was he really shooting out the bulbs? | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
Yes, he would have been, because this is a steel plate. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
Right. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
That would just break up the bullet, flatten it. Yes. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
I figure glass bulbs, probably filled with powder. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
So they'd puff when they were... Yeah, yeah. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
Just a little bit more oomph, | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
and a little bit more flash. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:15 | |
If it had gone through her head, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
that would have killed her. Absolutely. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
Here is the little one, Vivian. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
And he's got a mirror there and he's... | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
Through a mirror? Yeah. Yeah. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
This is what it was all about, trick shooting. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
"I'm going to do stuff that you haven't seen done before with guns." | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
Let's get organised. OK. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:34 | |
Let's go and find some stuff. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
All right, you've shot before, and I know you've been shot at. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
So, just want to see how you can shoot. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
See if you can take that silver balloon, John, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
in the good old-fashioned way - straight shot. OK. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
To your shoulder. There we go. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:58 | |
Ready to roll. | 0:25:58 | 0:25:59 | |
Wow! Good shot. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
Try that pink now, John. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:06 | |
Go low on the pink, low on the pink. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
Oh, John! Oh, another one! | 0:26:10 | 0:26:11 | |
You've got another one, now it's getting smaller! | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
Now we're talking! OK. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:15 | |
Now it's moving! | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
Ah, missed. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:18 | |
Again, hit it again, John! It's a moving target now. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
It doesn't get harder than this. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
Yeah! You the man! | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
That is outstanding. John, that is real good! | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
Yes! | 0:26:33 | 0:26:34 | |
I got something for you. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
Let me go get this. OK. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:40 | |
I think you're going to like it. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
Ta-da! | 0:26:46 | 0:26:47 | |
Oh, I can't shoot my great-grandmother. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
We're not asking you to shoot your great-grandmother, | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
we're asking you to shoot targets, yeah. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
I've got one. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:06 | |
Yes, you've got powder down her hair now, OK? | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
What we don't want is blood. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
I think you're good. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:19 | |
How far are we off? | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
I feel a bit sort of Codyish now. I really do. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
Yeah, you better. I'd almost call that ballistic genetics. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
I really would. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
Good, I'm proud. Thank you, thank you. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
I think if I'd hit even a bad picture of my great-grandmother, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:36 | |
I would have felt pretty sick. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:37 | |
I really, really didn't want to hit her. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
I've always wanted to know more about Lela. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
My great-grandmother's family lived not very far | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
from where I live in London, in Chelsea. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
Her father owned a big stables in Sloane Square, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
and she kind of morphed into Lela Cody, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
the glamorous bareback rider. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
I would love to know more. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
John knows that Lela starred in a Wild West melodrama, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
performed by the Cody family in various venues across the country, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
including the Theatre Royal, Stratford, in East London. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
He's come here to find out about Lela's life in showbiz, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
from an expert in Victorian entertainment, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
Professor Vanessa Toulmin. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:28 | |
Vanessa, there's my great-grandmother, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
she's got four kids, she's living in suburban London. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:39 | |
Mm-hm. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:40 | |
What's she doing running away with the circus? | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
Do you know anything about all of that? | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
Well, we have to think about | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
where did your great grandmother meet this dashing American cowboy? | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
Do you know? | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
Well, I've got an idea where they could have met. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
By the 1880s, you get these incredible venues, | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
like The London Aquarium, Earl's Court, Olympia. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
And these are for massive spectacle shows. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
And they would have casts of thousands. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
One of the most famous acts at the time was Buffalo Bill, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
whose Wild West shows at Olympia drew thousands of people. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
Samuel Cody had followed in his footsteps, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
bringing his wife Lillian to England in search of fame and fortune. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
This is at Olympia. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
And this is a show that Cody was in. Yes. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
And if you want to have a look... | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
"The French Exhibition, London, November 1st 1890. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
"This is to certify that Mr SF Cody, Junior, and Miss L Cody..." | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
His first wife. Well, his wife. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
"..were specifically engaged for the parts of Lieutenant de Franceville | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
"and Mademoiselle Louisette in the Arab | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
"or 'Wild East' Arena Section of this exhibition." | 0:29:50 | 0:29:55 | |
This show had casts of maybe hundreds of horseman and horsewomen. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
God. So, they would have been auditioning, | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
they would have been asking people. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
And this is where I think your great-grandmother met Cody. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
I think they met, | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
she was a very accomplished trick rider, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
she was a very accomplished horsewoman, wasn't she? | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
Yes. Well, so I was told. Yes. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
And it would have been very unlikely for her to go into that world | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
without having any background in it. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:19 | |
Well, she could have got it through her father, I suppose. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
Yes. Her father dealt and provided horses. Yes. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
And it was very common at that time | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
for the daughters of the people involved to do the demonstrating. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
We've got Lela King, Elizabeth King, as she was called... | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
..sitting there at home, you know. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:38 | |
What did she say to her husband? "I'm sorry, darling, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
"I'm just going off to Olympia to take part in a Wild West Show." | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
Can't have been entirely respectable. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
It wasn't seen as going off to a music hall or variety, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
it was a place where Queen Victoria went. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
Yes. You know? I see, I see. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
This is Queen Victoria. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:57 | |
I try to explain it to people and I suppose the equivalent is | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
the opening ceremony of the Olympics. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
It's that kind of show. Oh! | 0:31:03 | 0:31:04 | |
Really? Yes. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
But because the shows are so big, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:07 | |
we never can find out all the people who are in them. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
So, I can't say a hundred... So, there's no name on a..? | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
There's no name on a handbill, but I would say that, to me, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
that's the most likely scenario. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
So, let's look here now. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
November, 1891. so it's a year later. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
"Fenton Street Drill Hall. Today the Cody family. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:29 | |
"Marvels. The World's Greatest Fancy Shots." | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
Hmm. Well, that's them, isn't it? Yes. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
So that is your family now, isn't it? | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
That is. That's Lela, plus her kids, and they're performing. Yes. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:44 | |
Think of the resourcefulness of your great-grandmother. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
I mean, apparently, you know, | 0:31:46 | 0:31:47 | |
obviously she leaves her husband | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
and runs off with an American cowboy | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
15 years younger than her. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:54 | |
Takes her children on the road, leads a fantastic life. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
I wonder about poor old Edward King, her husband. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
You know, "Evening, Mr King, how's the wife?", you know? | 0:32:02 | 0:32:07 | |
And he's going to say, "Ah, well," | 0:32:07 | 0:32:08 | |
and he's perhaps thinking about them. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
Perhaps as a bloke of a certain age, | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
I'd have really sympathised with the old boy. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
'I've got the feeling that Lela Cody, my great grandmother, | 0:32:22 | 0:32:28 | |
'wanted a bigger, better, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
'more exciting life than poor old Edward was capable of giving her. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
'I'd love to find out more about Edward. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
'He's the one person I've never thought of before now. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:44 | |
'Somehow or another he's starting to exert a bit of an attraction | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
'and an interest for me.' | 0:32:48 | 0:32:49 | |
John's father told him that his great-grandfather, | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
Edward King, lived in Chelsea. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
John himself lives locally, so he's meeting genealogist Martin Lowe | 0:32:58 | 0:33:03 | |
at Kensington Library to find out more. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
I found out yesterday that my great grandmother, Lela, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
must have left her real husband, Edward King, by 1891. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:15 | |
OK. I don't know, do you have any further information about that? | 0:33:15 | 0:33:19 | |
Well, from the dates you have mentioned, it strikes me | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
that the thing to do would be to go back another ten years. Right. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
And we'll go to the 1881 Census. OK. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
Right. Perhaps he's that one. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
Lizzie May. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:35 | |
Lizzie May. Her name was Elizabeth, so perhaps that is it. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
She changed her name umpteen times. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
Did she? Yeah, well, she was Lela when she was racing around the ring | 0:33:42 | 0:33:47 | |
on bareback, firing guns and throwing knives. Gosh. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
So, yeah, I think this is it. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
Here he is, Elm Park Road. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
Oh, it's only about 200 yards from where I live. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
Well, there you go. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:01 | |
Isn't weird that after...? | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
I've lived in countries | 0:34:03 | 0:34:04 | |
all round the world and I've come back to settle within about | 0:34:04 | 0:34:09 | |
I don't know, 200-300 yards of my great grandmother. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
That's a very weird. You've come home. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
I've come home, I suppose, yes. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
"Edward King, head of the household, married, male, 38, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:22 | |
"retired licensed victualler." | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
What's that mean, he had a pub? | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
Pub landlord. Yes, yes. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
He was neither deaf and dumb, nor blind, nor imbecile or idiot, | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
or lunatic. That's a relief... That's always worth knowing. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
..since he's my great grandfather. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
But he's 38, and he's retired. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
Quite young. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
Very young. I mean, I'm 30 years older | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
and I'm still bashing away. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
And, I mean, owning a pub | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
can't have been that hard work. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
No, I mean, the normal thing you would expect | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
would for there to be some sort of illness. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
Yes. Or something may have happened. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
You don't know what pub he owned, do you? | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
Well, I think perhaps we need to go back another ten years. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
Have a look on the 1871 Census. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
So, if we do it for you. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
Great. Fantastic. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
"Edward King, son, 29." That's him. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:17 | |
Now, what we find here... | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
"Head of the household, John King", so that's his father. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
That's his father. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
"John King, Head." | 0:35:25 | 0:35:26 | |
"Age 61, licensed victualler." | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
So, he was in the pub business. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
And it also tells us where the pub was. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
Does it? Can you see what that is? | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
That looks like Keppel Street. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
I don't know Keppel Street. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
I don't know one in Chelsea. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
Well, Chelsea has changed a lot... | 0:35:44 | 0:35:45 | |
It has. ..over the years, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
so what we could do is | 0:35:47 | 0:35:48 | |
we could actually look, perhaps, at an 1865 Ordnance Survey Map. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
This is a wonderful old thing. Right, so... | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
Oh, here we go, yes. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
So we have King's Road... | 0:35:58 | 0:35:59 | |
Right. ..going down here. Yes. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
It was a proper little small town, wasn't it? | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
It was a working town, dotted with churches, | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
dotted with pubs, dotted with industry. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
Yep. Do we have Keppel Street? There's Keppel Street. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
Then down here we have Keppel Terrace. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
Now what we'd be looking for now would be a PH, | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
to signify a public house. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
I can see it from here, gosh. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
Exactly, right on the corner, on the corner of Keppel Terrace. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
Immediately you can see, right behind it, | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
you have an oil cloth manufactory. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
And also next to the pub | 0:36:31 | 0:36:32 | |
you have a Wesleyan Chapel. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
So you can choose which way you want to go when you leave work. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
God or the Devil, as some might say. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
Anderson Street is still there. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
You know, the street's going to be there, isn't it? | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
They don't change streets. That's right. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
And then we can perhaps try and locate it, what it is now | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
and even see if the pub's still standing. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
That would be wonderful. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
OK, that's the King's Road. There's Anderson Street. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
Well, there's this little one called Tryon Street. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
Tryon Street. That's it. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
Yes, and that's the one, isn't it? Keppel Street, isn't it? | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
OK, so if we enter in "pub, Tryon Street, Chelsea." | 0:37:05 | 0:37:11 | |
Yeah, OK. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:12 | |
The Queen's Head. Top one. Good Lord. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
The pub where your ancestors lived is still there. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
John wants to discover what happened | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
in the ten years between 1871 and 1881, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
why his great grandfather, Edward, left the pub he had run | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
with his father, John King, and retired from his life as a landlord. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
Hello, Elsa. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
He's arranged to meet genealogist, Elsa Churchill, | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
at what was his family's pub, the Queen's Head. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
Looks as though two of my ancestors ran this pub | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
in their different ways. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
John King and his son, Edward King, who's my great-grandfather. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:03 | |
Well, the pub is absolutely central to the family's life. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:08 | |
So here we've got Edward. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
My great-grandfather. Yes. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
This is his birth certificate. So he's born December 1841. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:18 | |
"Occupation of father - licensed victualler. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
"10 Keppel..." | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
Terrace. "..Terrace." | 0:38:24 | 0:38:25 | |
So he was born here? | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
He was born in this building. Oh, really, how extraordinary. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
So, basically, his whole life started out in this pub. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
And then he learned his trade, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:33 | |
and he's working with his father. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
Yes. As a publican, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
he would have been in the centre of a thriving business and a community. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
Pubs were so integral to the life in their community. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
And a publican is a good living. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
But life in the pub didn't stay that great. Oh? | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
Cos you've got them in the 1871 Census, | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
and I know they were here earlier. | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
Well, | 0:38:59 | 0:39:00 | |
this is what we know about John, the father. Oh, yes. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
This is a death certificate. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
22nd June 1872. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
Gosh, look at this. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
"He died violently. Poisoned, accidentally." | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
"Postmortem." Mm-hm. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
And the information comes from the Middlesex Coroner, Thomas Diplock. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:25 | |
Let's see what the coroner's said in the newspaper reports. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
The Victorian journalists... | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
..invariably report gory deaths. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
They sold newspapers. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
I'm in the wrong side of the business, aren't I? | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
I ought to have been doing this. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
June 29th 1872. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
Oh, yes, "Fatal case of accidental poisoning. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
"An old man named King, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
"the landlord of the Queen's Hotel, Keppel Street, Chelsea | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
"has been poisoned through the carelessness of his son." | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
Oh, God. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
"Mr King, who had been taking medicine, went out for a drive | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
"and during his absence his son sent the waiter | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
"to a neighbouring chemist's | 0:40:05 | 0:40:06 | |
"for some oxalic acid with which to clean the metal counter." | 0:40:06 | 0:40:11 | |
So just there. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:12 | |
"He gave the waiter one of his father's empty medicine bottles, | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
"and afterwards placed the bottle with the poison in it | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
"on a shelf in the bar." | 0:40:20 | 0:40:21 | |
"When the father returned from his drive, he took up the bottle, | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
"swallowed some of the poison, and fell down dead in the bar." | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
Yep, absolutely. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
I've seen people in Iraq, | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
killed by that kind of poison, | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
dropped from the air by Saddam Hussein, | 0:40:37 | 0:40:42 | |
and it's instant but while it happens, it's pretty nasty. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
You wouldn't wish it on anybody. No. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
Certainly not on your great-great-grandfather. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
So, I'm really sorry about poor old John King. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
But, I mean, doesn't it sound just a bit suspicious? | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
Obviously, the coroner would have gone over | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
the question in his mind or in the case, | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
whether the son actually left it there | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
because he wanted to take over the Queen's Head. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
And here you've got the inquest. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
Oh, yes, "Inquest on Mr King." | 0:41:13 | 0:41:14 | |
Here we are, "The deceased son, Mr Edward King, was recalled, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
"having had to retire before his examination was complete, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
"in consequence of his distressed mental condition." | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
So, he was very upset. Yep. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:26 | |
"The witness was again | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
"so overcome by his feelings he had to be led out of the room. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
"The coroner and jury were perfectly agreed | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
"that the occurrence was a result | 0:41:34 | 0:41:35 | |
"of misadventure and a verdict to that effect was recorded." | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
Well, they certainly believed... | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
They believed him. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:42 | |
Did he leave a will? Have you found a will? | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
Well, what you would do is look in the Probate Court Records | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
for 1872, anyone called John King leaving a will. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
Oh, yes, there it is. The one that's of interest, here. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
"Effects under £800." Mm-hm. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
"Administration with the will of the effects of John King, | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
"late of the Queen's Head, | 0:41:59 | 0:42:00 | |
"was granted at the principal Registry to Edward King, the son." | 0:42:00 | 0:42:05 | |
So, yes, we know that John King did leave some money. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
But... Not much. Could you retire on that? | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
It's the equivalent, I suppose, of one or two years' average salary. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
Let's go on to see what else we can find out about Edward | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
after the will was proved. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
This is a marriage certificate. January 22nd, 1873. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:28 | |
So the year after the old boy keels over in the pub. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
Six months, almost. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:32 | |
Six months, it is, yes. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
Edward King marries Elizabeth Mary | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
Davis, my great-grandmother, | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
who became known as Lela. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
He's 32, she's 19, so there's a 13-year age gap. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:47 | |
He's a licensed victualler now, so he's taken over. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
He's inherited some part of the 800 quid. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
He can afford to marry. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
They're certainly... | 0:42:56 | 0:42:57 | |
Oh, yes. ..going to do what married couples | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
would do in the Victorian period. Here's the birth... | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
Oh. Now, who's this? Lizzy Caroline Merear. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
Now, this must be my grandmother. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
Registered as Lizzy. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:10 | |
So, there we go. She was know as Liese. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
Liz, well yes. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:14 | |
L-I-E-S-E. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:16 | |
Oh, and then he's a licensed victualler still, | 0:43:16 | 0:43:20 | |
and they're here. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:21 | |
They're at Keppel Street. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
And now because Edward King is such a common name... | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
Mmm. ..no-one's really been able to track him down properly, | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
in the later censuses. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:31 | |
He seems to almost disappear off the radar, until he actually dies. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:37 | |
Ah. So we've got his death certificate. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:39 | |
So there is his death. 1904. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:42 | |
He's 62 and he dies of chronic Bright's disease and hepatitis. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:46 | |
What is Bright's disease? | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
It's some kind of chronic kidney disease. Oh. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
A disease of the kidneys. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:52 | |
Maybe too many tots. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:54 | |
It's something that... | 0:43:54 | 0:43:55 | |
"Have one for yourself barman," you know. Possibly. Mmm. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
So, this is 1904. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:01 | |
He's been ill with Bright's disease for 13 years. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
So that was 1891. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:08 | |
He must have been starting to get ill | 0:44:10 | 0:44:14 | |
when Lela, his wife, left him with the kids. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:19 | |
Maybe she left him because he was ill. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:23 | |
Life is not going well for this man, is it? | 0:44:24 | 0:44:26 | |
It isn't, it isn't. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:27 | |
But then we have | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
"The informant, AE Whittall, son-in-law, | 0:44:30 | 0:44:35 | |
"present at the death." | 0:44:35 | 0:44:36 | |
Now, that was my grandmother's married name, | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
and she didn't go off with the circus. Really? No. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:43 | |
So Edward was living with his daughter | 0:44:43 | 0:44:46 | |
and son-in-law by this time. Yes. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
I feel really very sad about poor old Edward King. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:54 | |
Been dumped, you know, and he's got health problems, | 0:44:55 | 0:45:00 | |
going down in the world. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:02 | |
I feel really quite sympathetic towards him. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:07 | |
Does make me wonder, too, | 0:45:07 | 0:45:09 | |
whether he didn't pick the wrong girl to marry, slightly. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:13 | |
Just when he needed her most, | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
she was careering around looking for somebody, | 0:45:16 | 0:45:20 | |
and she found Cody and she took all but my grandmother | 0:45:20 | 0:45:25 | |
on to the Wild West Shows and everything. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:27 | |
When Lela left Edward for Cody, | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
she took her three sons | 0:45:36 | 0:45:37 | |
but left John's grandmother, | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
Liese, behind. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:41 | |
Liese never took part in the shows | 0:45:41 | 0:45:43 | |
and was written out | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
of the Cody family stories, | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
so what little John knows about her is through hearsay. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
I always believed, through what my father told me, | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
that there was a big rift between my grandmother, | 0:45:54 | 0:45:58 | |
whose name was Liese, and her mother, Lela, Lela Cody. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:03 | |
I'm really keen to know more now about my grandmother. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:09 | |
I've never seen any photographs of her at all, | 0:46:09 | 0:46:11 | |
wouldn't know what she looked like. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
But, I mean, that's all a complete blank to me. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:17 | |
One reason why I don't know anything very serious | 0:46:21 | 0:46:26 | |
about my grandmother and my grandfather | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
is that when my father's marriage to my mother broke up | 0:46:28 | 0:46:32 | |
that just divided the two parts of my family. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:37 | |
And I was really never, never very close | 0:46:37 | 0:46:40 | |
to anybody on my mother's side after that. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
John is visiting another cousin, Tony Reed. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
They haven't seen each other since John's mother's funeral. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
Tony. Oh! | 0:46:53 | 0:46:54 | |
Hello. It's a long... | 0:46:55 | 0:46:57 | |
It's very nice to see you after all these years. | 0:46:57 | 0:46:59 | |
A long, long time. Come in. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:01 | |
Thank you. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:02 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:03 | |
Unlike John, Tony has childhood memories of their grandmother. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
The thing is, Tony, I know absolutely nothing whatsoever | 0:47:10 | 0:47:15 | |
about our grandmother, Liese. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
I only knew her when I was very young. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
I was about eight years old when she died. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:23 | |
But, I mean, she was marvellous to my sister and I. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:27 | |
And what did she look like? | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
Well, here we have... | 0:47:30 | 0:47:31 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
..photographs of Liese. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:34 | |
Is that her? That's Liese. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:36 | |
What a nice-looking woman. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:38 | |
And this is a postcard, is it? | 0:47:40 | 0:47:41 | |
This is a postcard. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:42 | |
Yes. Madam Cody. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
So, she calls her mother | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
"Madam Cody". Cody. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
Well, well. "Dear Lela." Ah, but she calls her Lela there. Yes. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:54 | |
Which is kind of interesting, isn't it? Isn't it? Yes. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
"Give my best love to the dear boys." Her brothers. Yes. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
Presumably. "And yourself. Yours, Liese." | 0:48:01 | 0:48:05 | |
My father said that Lela, Madam Cody, | 0:48:05 | 0:48:10 | |
used to say to her daughter, | 0:48:10 | 0:48:12 | |
"You're so ugly, I can't believe that you're my daughter." | 0:48:12 | 0:48:16 | |
Have you heard any stories like that? | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
Well, I've heard this business of, "You're big and ugly." | 0:48:18 | 0:48:22 | |
Mmm, that's right, "You're so big." | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
And I could never believe it, especially having seen her. | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
Lela didn't seem to like girls very much. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
She much preferred the boys. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
Mmm. Perhaps not the most loving of mothers. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
No, she had another side to her, it seems. Yes. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:38 | |
I'm beginning to see really a different side to the whole thing. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:44 | |
She obviously was a really sweet woman, Liese. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:48 | |
Because she had her father to live with her, and he died, | 0:48:48 | 0:48:52 | |
and can't have been very well. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
You know, she obviously looked after him, | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
and so did Arthur Whittall. | 0:48:57 | 0:48:59 | |
Grandfather. Grandfather, and your grandfather too. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
And mine, yes. Arthur Whittall. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
Oh, gosh, he's tremendous, isn't he? Isn't he? | 0:49:04 | 0:49:06 | |
It seems to have been an extremely happy marriage. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
Oh, was it? | 0:49:11 | 0:49:12 | |
Well, I have two letters | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
and it's not so much what it actually says, | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
but the manner in which it's written. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:20 | |
"From your loving husband," | 0:49:20 | 0:49:22 | |
and asking after the family and all sorts of little nuances | 0:49:22 | 0:49:27 | |
that give the impression that they were extremely happily married. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:31 | |
And, of course, at this stage... | 0:49:31 | 0:49:33 | |
Oh, gosh! | 0:49:35 | 0:49:37 | |
And that is your mother. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
And that's my mother. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:41 | |
That's Viva, and that is? | 0:49:41 | 0:49:44 | |
Leonie. That's our aunt, your aunt and my aunt. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
At this stage your mother has not been born. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:50 | |
And this is your mother's birth certificate. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
Oh, yes. Oh, yes! | 0:49:55 | 0:49:56 | |
"29th July 1906, Joyce Lela Vivian. | 0:49:56 | 0:50:02 | |
Father was "Arthur Ernest Whittall, deceased." | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
Well, this is his death certificate. Oh. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:11 | |
Arthur Whittall died 21st August 1906. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:18 | |
So, what's that? That's 23 days after my mother was born. Mm-hm. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:25 | |
And her birth and his death were registered at the same time. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:33 | |
23rd August, 23rd August. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:35 | |
It's the same day. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
Poor Liese. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:40 | |
And how did he die, do you know? | 0:50:40 | 0:50:42 | |
What does it say? "Cause of death - enteric fever." | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
I was always told that this was at a TA Camp. Ah. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:49 | |
And he drank infected water. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:51 | |
Good Lord. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:54 | |
What a tragedy. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
Dear, oh, dear, and he was only 32. Yes. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
And, of course, her world falls to pieces. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
Falls to pieces. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:05 | |
So, she has to be taken in somewhere. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
Yes, so who took her in? | 0:51:07 | 0:51:09 | |
The Cody family. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:10 | |
Did they? Yes, but I suspect that it was Grandpa Cody... Yes. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:15 | |
..rather than Lela... | 0:51:15 | 0:51:16 | |
that said, "We must do something about this." | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
Yes, I'm sure you're right. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:20 | |
It sounds like something Cody would do. Some big-hearted gesture. Yes. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:25 | |
After Arthur Whittall died, | 0:51:26 | 0:51:28 | |
Liese and her three daughters, | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
Viva, Leonie | 0:51:30 | 0:51:31 | |
and John's mother, Joyce, | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
were reunited with the rest | 0:51:34 | 0:51:35 | |
of the Cody family. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:36 | |
Liese and her three daughters went to live with Cody and Lela, | 0:51:41 | 0:51:45 | |
in Farnborough. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:47 | |
And this is the census return for 1911. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:55 | |
"SF Cody, aeronautical engineer, 49." | 0:51:55 | 0:51:59 | |
Now was that genuine? Well... | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
according to my calculations, I think it was... | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
..44 | 0:52:07 | 0:52:09 | |
would be more accurate. Would it? | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
And Lela Cody was supposedly 48 | 0:52:11 | 0:52:14 | |
and she was a lot more than that, wasn't she? | 0:52:14 | 0:52:16 | |
58. 58! | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
"Lela Cody, wife, 48." Liar. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:23 | |
"Married. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:25 | |
"Completed years the present marriage has lasted...30 years." | 0:52:25 | 0:52:30 | |
Well, they weren't married anyway. Weren't married, no. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:32 | |
And a resident of Spain. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:35 | |
This is a load of nonsense, isn't it? | 0:52:35 | 0:52:37 | |
Leese Whittall, so that's our grandmother? Yes. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
It's spelt slightly weirdly. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
We're told "cousin". | 0:52:43 | 0:52:44 | |
She... No cousin, no, nonsense, | 0:52:44 | 0:52:47 | |
cos she was Mrs Cody's daughter. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:51 | |
It's like any lie. You tell a lie | 0:52:51 | 0:52:53 | |
and the next thing you know it's got worse. Yeah. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:57 | |
And you have to keep lying more. | 0:52:57 | 0:52:58 | |
And so the whole thing snowballs. Yes. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:00 | |
Until your children are your cousins, and things like this. Yes. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:07 | |
You know, I mean, all this sort of... | 0:53:07 | 0:53:09 | |
Obviously Liese was a great embarrassment. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:13 | |
Yes, I suppose...to Madam Cody. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:16 | |
Indeed, yes. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:17 | |
"Put her down as 'cousin.'" Yes. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:19 | |
"And 'housekeeper.'" Yes. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:23 | |
I wonder if she was the housekeeper, though. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
I wonder if she did look after them, and... | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
Oh, she did other things as well. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:29 | |
Did she? Well, yeah, this is a section here | 0:53:29 | 0:53:32 | |
showing some of Cody's team. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
This, of course, is Liese. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:36 | |
Is Liese, yes, yes, yes. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:38 | |
She helped with the planes. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:41 | |
No! Did she? | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
I have here a letter. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
This is from Auntie Leonie. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:47 | |
"Mother used to make the silk covering..." Oh, there we are. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:50 | |
"Mother used to make the silk covering | 0:53:50 | 0:53:52 | |
"for the wings of the aeroplanes | 0:53:52 | 0:53:54 | |
"and she worked at a treadle machine at the back of Grandpa's big shed. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:59 | |
"Mama never got appreciation | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
"in either of the books that were written, | 0:54:01 | 0:54:02 | |
"but it was she who made the wings for the planes, | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
"and Grandpa gave her permission to take us, | 0:54:05 | 0:54:08 | |
"only one at a time, to spend the day at Laffan's Plain," | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
where Cody did his flying. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:12 | |
"Those were gala days to us and Mama always dressed us in our best, | 0:54:12 | 0:54:16 | |
"and especially washed our hair so that we should do her proud." | 0:54:16 | 0:54:21 | |
Gosh, I'm amazed. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
Oh, here. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:26 | |
You don't think that that's our grandmother, one of those, do you? | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
Well, it's difficult to tell, isn't it? | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
I think that that might be her... | 0:54:32 | 0:54:33 | |
Yes, yes, yes. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:35 | |
..in this one. Yes. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:37 | |
Good Lord. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:39 | |
How do you know all these things? Cos your mother told you, I suppose? | 0:54:41 | 0:54:44 | |
Er, yes, you ask your mother. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:46 | |
Your mother and Leonie. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:47 | |
When they died, we tended to keep their memorabilia. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:51 | |
Yes, so you got all the stuff. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:53 | |
That's right, yes. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:55 | |
And this is, of course... | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
Oh, there's my mother. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:00 | |
That's right, yes. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:01 | |
And that's Liese. Yes. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:03 | |
Ah, I haven't seen a picture of my mother that... | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
..you know, a new picture of my mother for a very long time. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:15 | |
Mmm. And here's another picture... | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
Oh, yeah. ..of your mother. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
Oh, yes. And who's that, then? | 0:55:22 | 0:55:24 | |
That's Leonie. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:25 | |
That's Leonie. Our aunt, your aunt and my aunt. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:30 | |
That is absolutely lovely. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:32 | |
You know, I've got a picture of myself | 0:55:33 | 0:55:36 | |
and my mother standing at the same gate. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
Gosh. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:40 | |
Some of my earliest memories were here. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:44 | |
Smelling wallflowers and things. Yes. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:47 | |
It's quite melancholy, actually, all of this. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:53 | |
But it's a strange old family to come from, a bit, isn't it? | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
Well, it is a bit odd. It is a bit odd. | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
But I feel, thanks to you, I've kind of rediscovered Liese. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:06 | |
Who was just always a sort of nothing and a nobody, | 0:56:06 | 0:56:13 | |
as far as I could make out. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:15 | |
On the contrary, I mean, she's a really interesting, charming, | 0:56:15 | 0:56:19 | |
charming woman. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:21 | |
And I must say, just seeing these pictures of my mother, | 0:56:23 | 0:56:26 | |
also very, very moving. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
There's quite a lot to digest here. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 | |
I found this very complicated family... | 0:56:41 | 0:56:45 | |
..and now I feel I'm much better aware of the forces that made me. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:52 | |
I feel an awful lot closer to my mother now. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:59 | |
Seeing those photographs of her really did... | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
..bring it all home so much. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:08 | |
I felt dreadful that I'd sided with my father against my mother | 0:57:12 | 0:57:15 | |
and it kind of built up this tremendous burden of guilt, I think, | 0:57:15 | 0:57:19 | |
on both our parts, that kept us separate. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:24 | |
Now, I'd just go straightaway. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:28 | |
The worst thing is to know that it's too late. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:39 | |
I'm determined, absolutely determined to make sure | 0:57:44 | 0:57:47 | |
that my family doesn't allow distances | 0:57:47 | 0:57:51 | |
and separations to grow up, cos they don't do you any good. | 0:57:51 | 0:57:56 | |
Terribly corny to say it, | 0:57:56 | 0:57:58 | |
but, I mean, it is a fact of our lives. | 0:57:58 | 0:58:02 | |
Don't let the gaps grow. | 0:58:03 | 0:58:06 | |
You know, shrink them. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:08 | |
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