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I found it a bit overwhelming being down here in London. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
You know, coming from up north and not speaking proper, | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
and doing plays like Hedda Gabler, which I hadn't even heard of, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
Everyone was going, "How embarrassing, | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
"you shouldn't admit that you didn't know that play." | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
But I don't know Hedda Gabler. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
And so...that was quite hard to adapt to really. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
And I do feel a bit like kind of Alice in Wonderland | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
who's fallen down this rabbit hole | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
and come to this mad world here in London. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
In 1997, at the age of 16, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
Sheridan Smith left home to become an actress in London. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
Over more than a decade since, | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
she's become a star on both stage and screen. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
There has been that thing that I'm like, "No, come on you can do it." | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
And I don't know if it's the working class in me, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
but I must have a bit of determination. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
Just a little something in my belly that...keeps driving me, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
but it's terrifying at the same time. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
-Excuse me, I'll just put me lash on. -SHE LAUGHS | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
Sheridan has performed since she was a child, | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
singing alongside her parents in the workingmen's clubs | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
near their home in North Lincolnshire. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
My dad did always say that I could sing from when I was little, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
they used to put on me on this stool | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
and then I used to whack this massive voice out. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
And people would be like, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
"How's that big voice coming out of somebody so small?!" | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
That's probably why I'm so gobby now. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:37 | |
But I love singing. I've always loved singing. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
SHE CLICKS HER FINGERS | 0:01:41 | 0:01:42 | |
I love my dad. I'm such a daddy's girl. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
I absolutely adore him and... | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
he's been the one who's always wanted to find out about his family. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
-Here she comes. -My dad is somehow just so musically talented. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
I've always thought my dad must have musical bones. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
There must be musicians in my family. There's got to be. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
Lovely. Thank you, my darling. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
Cos otherwise where's my dad's talent come from? | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
-SHE SIGHS -Ready. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
I'm so grateful to be working all the time, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
but, you know, you kind of go from job to job | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
with meeting new little families and then you're off on to the next one, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
so you're never kind of stable. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
And the one thing I've got is my family up north. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
Yeah, that is like my little safe haven. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
This is my home stretch this bit. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
And...I just get really excited. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
I get excited about seeing them and... | 0:03:11 | 0:03:16 | |
So tonight, I'm going to my mum and dad's club that they gig at, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
Bentley Top Club. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
But, yeah, this...this stretch here is just... | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
I love it, it's beautiful. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
My mum and dad are a country and western duo. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
They've always been musicians, that's their living. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
My dad plays guitar, Hawaiian steel guitar, banjo. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
My mum plays mandolin, bass guitar. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
I mean, I remember at school, when I used to go to school, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
and dad would turn up to pick me up | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
with his 'tache, looking like a cowboy. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
But this country and western scene was huge up north. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
This is going to be great. | 0:03:58 | 0:03:59 | |
I'm so excited! We're here. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
Here we are, Bentley Top Club. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
SHE CHUCKLES | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
Here we go. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:09 | |
MUSIC PLAYS INSIDE | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
-Ah! -SHE LAUGHS | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
-WOMAN: -# You won't be late tonight Will you, mamma? | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
# You won't be late tonight Will you, mamma? # | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
-APPLAUSE -I used to go to the clubs with them | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
since I was four, till like 16. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
And even now when I go home, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:37 | |
I'll get up and sing, do a number with them. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
WHISTLING AND APPLAUSE | 0:04:39 | 0:04:40 | |
It's our little family thing that we do when I go back. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
And now...the highlight of the evening. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
I'm going to bring my little girl... | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
Sheridan Smith, ladies and gentlemen. Sheridan! | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
Our Sheridan! Our very own Sheridan! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
I don't think I've ever met anyone else's parents | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
who were a country and western duo. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:58 | |
It's quite surreal, really. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
They're from Doncaster! Like, a little village in Doncaster | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
and they're singing songs from Nashville. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
I'm going to sing you a song. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
# I met him in a bar room | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
# He was a thousand miles from home | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
# He said I just can't settle down | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
# I always need to roam... # | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
My mates don't believe me down in London when I tell them, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
until I take them back and then they're like, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
"Wow! OK. This really happens up here." | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
# Now he's back on the road a loner... # | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
We love a Wednesday night down at the Bentley Top Club. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:05:35 | 0:05:36 | |
# Come home with me Romany Cowboy | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
# I'll keep you warm tonight... # | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
Sheridan's back home in the house where she grew up, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
not far from Doncaster. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
It's 16 years since she left here for London | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
and until now she's never found the time | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
to ask her parents about the family background. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
Right...I want to know everything. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
-Remember that? -Mark and Madeleine, yeah. Oh, my God! | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
-Your legs, Mother! -Well, my skirt, look, is over my shoulder | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
because we used to do song and dance then. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
-Oh, and you used to rip it off? -Yeah. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
-Oh, like... # Making your mind up! # -Yeah. -I was a dance man. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
-Did you dance? -Yeah. Tap dancing, yeah. -You did not tap dance! -I did. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
He's still got his tap shoes upstairs. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:24 | |
How did I never know that you tap danced? | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
-Oh, yeah. -I love a bit of a tap. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
So this was before the country and western? | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
-Oh, yeah. -You looked like me, Mum, didn't you? | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
I mean, I look like you. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:06:36 | 0:06:37 | |
You were clean shaven then, you didn't have any... Yeah. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
And then that's when we moved to country and western. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
See his cowboy hat on there? | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
Oh, yeah. You've got the instruments now. But why country music? | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
Started in the army, when I was in the army in Egypt in the '50s. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:56 | |
And I walked in the NAAFI... | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
A NAAFI's like...a big concert room with a bar. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:03 | |
You know, you can have a drink or a cup of tea, a pint. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
And there was a kid, a lad, sat on a high stool with a guitar | 0:07:07 | 0:07:12 | |
and he's playing country and western. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
-I thought it was the most wonderful thing I'd ever heard. -Aw! | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
I thought, "I must get a guitar." | 0:07:18 | 0:07:19 | |
And, of course, my dad was a professional musician. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
-He was a cellist, wasn't he? -Yeah. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
-He was classical music, you see, classical music. -Was he? | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
He looked down a bit on guitars and things like that, you know. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
-You're self-taught? -Self-taught. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
-That's amazing. -Play In A Day, Bert Weedon. LAUGHTER | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
-And you're a brilliant banjo player, aren't you? -Well, no... -You are. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
-I wouldn't say that. -You are. -HE LAUGHS | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
-That's...my dad. -See, I've not seen any of this. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
-My dad with his... It's an orchestra, really. -I never met Grandad, did I? | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
No. So that's me dad. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
Absolutely lovely man. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
-Loveliest man you could ever wish, my dad. -Like you. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
Oh, he was really placid, you know. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
Me dad used to play at the Mansion House in Doncaster | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
when the Queen came...for the St Leger racing. SHERIDAN GASPS | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
-Really?! -A little string quartet in the corner, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
you know, playing mood music, all dressed up in a bow tie and... | 0:08:10 | 0:08:15 | |
-Blooming heck! -He used to come back plaiting his legs. LAUGHTER | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
Yeah, cos he was only a little fellow | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
and he used to strap his cello on his back | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
and from the back it looked like a cello walking down road. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
-LAUGHTER You could just see his feet, you know. -Was he really small? | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
-Yeah, very small, yeah. -That's why I'm so diddy. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
And he'd come back with a bunch of flowers for me mum | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
and a box of cigars under his arms. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
-And Nana used to play the organ, didn't she? -Piano. -Piano. -And sing. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
-And sing. I remember... -Oh, she could knock out a tune. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
I really remember when I was little | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
-that I used to go round and she'd play. -She loved her Guinness. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
And she'd put a pint of Guinness on piano. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
Well, people used to buy 'em for her, you know, to keep her playing. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
And she'd be banging away and this Guinness would be... | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
Piano'd be moving and this Guinness would be moving about on top. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
I used to stand there as a kid. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:03 | |
I were watching it thinking, "It's going to fall in a minute." SHERIDAN LAUGHS | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
That's like me coming and watching you two gigging when I was little. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
Oh, she could rattle the piano. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
Like Winifred Atwell, she could play in all these different styles. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
Ah, there's Nana. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
-And your mother's called...? -Hettie. -Hettie. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
-Hettie. -Yes. And that's me mum's dad. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
-Doubleday. -Ah! | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
William Doubleday. He was the boss in the steelworks. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
He's your great-grandfather. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
-Used to frighten me, very strict. -Oh, yeah? -Oh, God, yeah. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
He'd got a little baby grand in his room | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
and that's probably why me mum took it up as well, you know. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
-So that's Doubleday? -Yeah. -And that's me Nana's dad? | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
Yes. But...have a look at this. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
This is amazing. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
-Ohh! -These are Doubledays. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
-These are The Three Darrells. -It was just a stage name? | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
It was their stage name as far as I know. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
-So where were they from? -From Sheffield. -Ah, right. -Yeah. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
-We're all Sheffield family. -The whole family, as far as you can remember? | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
Yeah, we're all Sheffield. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:11 | |
I wonder why it was banjos that they played? | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
It's an amazing shot that. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
-I love it! I've never seen that. -I'd love to know... | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
-More about this picture? -Yeah. -It's fantastic. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
I've definitely got to find out who this guy is. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
Yeah. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:29 | |
Sheridan's on her way to Sheffield | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
where the Doubleday branch of her family was from. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
She's meeting genealogist, Eileen Butcher, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
hoping to discover more about the banjo player in her father's photo. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
-There's this picture. -Oh! | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
Which is amazing! It's the best thing I've ever seen. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
So these are the Doubledays. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:01 | |
OK. So the furthest you've got back is William Doubleday. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
-Which was my dad's grandfather, my great-grandfather. -Yeah. OK. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
I've done some research and we've got his father's birth certificate, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
-so we're going back another generation. -Yeah. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
So this is your great-great-grandfather, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
Benjamin Doubleday. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
Wow! | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
"Benjamin, boy. The year is 17th February, 1856." | 0:11:20 | 0:11:25 | |
So this tells you where he was born. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
It tells you in the first column. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
"Union Workhouse, New Sleaford." | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
Probably what's happened in this case | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
is that the family are in the workhouse | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
because of monetary worries and so on, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
so they've ended up in the workhouse. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:40 | |
-Really? -Yeah. So it's very humble beginnings. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
-Ah, so he was born in the workhouse? -Yeah. -That's amazing. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
And so this is a marriage certificate. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
Eileen reveals to Sheridan | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
that her great-great-grandfather, Benjamin Doubleday, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
went on to marry Sarah Jane Collins. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
It gives you the date of marriage. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
"27th March, 1883." | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
Sheridan discovers that Benjamin and Sarah Jane had four children. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
Her great-grandfather William had three sisters, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
May Fanny, Harriet and Caroline. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
And her birth certificate holds a clue about Benjamin. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
"5th April, 1890. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
"Caroline...Maud, a girl by Benjamin Doubleday | 0:12:21 | 0:12:27 | |
"and Sarah Jane Doubleday. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
"Occupation of father - Teacher of music." | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
-SHERIDAN GASPS -We've got one other little... -Oh, gosh! It's getting so exciting. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
Now, this is from a newspaper. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
Yeah. "The Sheffield and Rotherham Independent, November 25th, 1886. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:44 | |
"Concert at the Parish Room, Sharrow. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
"A most successful entertainment took place on Tuesday evening | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
"in aid of the funds of the workingmen's club | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
"in connection with St Andrew's Church. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
"One notable feature was the banjo playing of Mr B Doubleday, | 0:12:55 | 0:13:00 | |
"whose remarkable power over that instrument | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
"proved it capable of much greater resources | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
"than are generally attributed to it. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
"His rendering of Home Sweet Home with..." | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
Oh, God! I'm getting all emotional. Can't believe this! | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
"His rendering of Home Sweet Home | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
"with variations was received with enthusiastic applause." | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
Oh, God! I can't... Don't! | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
-Ah! It's like a little review, isn't it? -It is. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
I can't read it now, cos I can't see! | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
Idiot! Oh, gosh! It's amazing! | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
"His rendering of Home Sweet Home with variations | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
"was received with enthusiastic applause | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
-"and merited the determined encore which followed." -Yeah. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
-So he was a banjo player? -Yes. -An amazing one by the sounds of it. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:51 | |
-That explains the banjos. -It does. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
And my dad plays the banjo, brilliantly. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
Well, I don't know about as well as Mr Benjamin Doubleday! | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
Wow! It's so brilliant! | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
I can't wait for my dad to find this all out. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
Honestly, I'm so... This is going to be such a journey. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
I want to figure out now where his banjo playing came from. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:20 | |
Where Benjamin Doubleday... How he became a teacher of music. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
So was he self-taught...like my dad's done? I don't know. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
I just want to know more about the Doubledays now. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
The fact that like a century ago | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
that he got a review saying he was astonishing is just so exciting. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
-I'm so chuffed. This is amazing! -SHE LAUGHS | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
An hour down the motorway at Leeds University is Professor Derek Scott, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:51 | |
a specialist in music from the period | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
when Benjamin Doubleday played the banjo. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
Hello, Professor Derek. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
-Well... -It's an honour to meet you. -It's an honour to meet you, too. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
Really? Well, thank you for having me. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
-So, Professor Derek, I've got a review to read you... -OK. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
..that made me cry. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:11 | |
So it says, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:12 | |
"Mr B Doubleday, his rendering of Home Sweet Home with variations | 0:15:12 | 0:15:17 | |
"was received with enthusiastic applause | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
"and merited the determined encore which followed." | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
-I mean, what a review! -That is amazing, yeah. -Isn't that amazing? | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
And so how would he have learnt to play the banjo? | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
Well, I think that he had something like this, a banjo instructor. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
-So do you think he was self-taught? -I think he was self-taught. -Yes! | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
See, my dad is, my dad's self-taught. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
Where did this banjo come from, do you think? | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
The banjo came to Britain when a kind of entertainment | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
we now know as Black Face Minstrelsy arrived in 1843, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
the Virginia Minstrels. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
They were all white but they used burnt cork, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
they pretended to be plantation African Americans playing. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
And this was the normal style. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
-Let me just show you the kind of banjo at this time. -Wow! | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
-What a great instrument! -Um... | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
It doesn't have a resonator on the back, so it's not as loud. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
-It's got the...nylon strings. -HE STRUMS | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
It would have had gut strings. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
-It's a very different sound, isn't it? -And no frets on it at this time, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
it was like a violin. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:24 | |
-The kind of minstrel style was just... -HE PLUCKS THE BANJO | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
It just went like... | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
You'd simply put a thimble on your finger, and strummed the banjo. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
-If I played a tune... -HE PLUCKS THE BANJO | 0:16:35 | 0:16:40 | |
-..it's too abrupt. -Yeah. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
So a style of banjo developed, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
and your great-great-grandfather would have been part of this, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
where you just used the thumb, index finger, middle finger | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
and try to keep the banjo going all the time. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
HE PLAYS MORE FLUIDLY | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
-I mean it's not... -That's amazing! | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
I'm not a banjoist, but that's the kind of style. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
And this became known as the classic banjo style, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
-which is still used today. -Like my dad does. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
So that review, saying that he... | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
Where was it? Let me read it, that last bit where it says, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
"..whose remarkable power over that instrument | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
"proved it capable of much greater resources | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
"than are generally attributed to it." | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
-It's that... So he... -Yes, I think... | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
-That's his plucking and everything? -I think so, yes. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
BANJO PLAYS | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
Benjamin Doubleday was a trail blazer in this new style of finger-picking. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:47 | |
By the time he performed Home Sweet Home in 1886, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:54 | |
the banjo was moving beyond minstrel shows, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
which had been popular with the middle and upper classes. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
This respectable audience | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
now became interested in the banjo in its own right. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
They elevated it to the height of fashion | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
with concerts and parlour performances. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
I think we've got another clipping in here | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
that will show just how talented... | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
-SHERIDAN LAUGHS -..your great-great-grandfather was. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
Look at...this. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
-The Bohee Brothers. -"The Bohee Brothers at the Albert Hall." | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
-It's the Sheffield Albert. -Oh. -Wait a minute, I should say... | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
I know people go, "Oh, it's not the real one then." | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
The Sheffield Albert Hall | 0:18:41 | 0:18:42 | |
-was a wonderful, wonderful hall. -That's even better. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
-Of course. -It burnt down in 1937, unfortunately. -Oh, no! | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
-But it was a grand hall. It was an impressive concert hall. -Wow! | 0:18:49 | 0:18:54 | |
It held over a thousand people, it was... | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
And who are the Bohee Brothers? | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
They came to Britain in the 1890s | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
and established themselves as the great banjo players of the day. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:05 | |
Wow! So they've come over. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
"A special programme was provided | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
"for the last evening at the Albert Hall, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:11 | |
"but owing to the extremely unfavourable weather..." | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
The weather was a nightmare! | 0:19:14 | 0:19:15 | |
-Well, this is the grim north. -This is, isn't it? | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
We're used to it up here. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:19 | |
"..the unfavourable weather, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
"the attendance was not so good as it otherwise would have been. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
"In addition to the clever playing, acting and singing | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
"of the Bohee Brothers and the members of their company, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
"Mr and Mrs Doubleday and several of their banjo pupils | 0:19:29 | 0:19:34 | |
"attended and greatly delighted the audience | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
"with a display of their skill | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
"and proficiency on that now popular instrument." | 0:19:38 | 0:19:43 | |
Wow! Mr and Mrs Doubleday! | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
Both he and his wife are playing, but also they're playing | 0:19:47 | 0:19:52 | |
with the greatest banjo players of the 19th century. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
-Ohh! -The Bohee Brothers, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:57 | |
they were African American but they were from Canada. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
James Bohee was THE number one banjo player. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
It would be like...playing violin with Yehudi Menuhin. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
He was the outstanding player. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
Playing for respectable audiences, the self-taught Benjamin Doubleday | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
had come a long way from his working-class roots. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
His earliest performances would most likely have been in public houses, | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
in rooms used as music halls. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
CHATTER They were noisy places, crowded with working men | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
expecting to hear bawdy songs, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
not the ideal venue for an accomplished musician. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
But as Benjamin Doubleday became more ambitious, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
he took advantage of the banjo's popularity | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
with a very different audience. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
If you think of a pub song of the 19th century like... | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
My name it is Sam Hall | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
# Chimney sweep, chimney sweep... # | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
And it ends, it has choruses with... | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
# And I hate you one and all Damn your eyes! # | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
You wouldn't sing that in a middle-class drawing room. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
-No. -But Home Sweet Home, let me give you... | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
Oh, getting a rendition. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:06 | |
..an example of this like your great-great-grandfather played. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
PIANO PLAYS | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
# 'Mid pleasures and palaces | 0:21:13 | 0:21:19 | |
# Though we may roam | 0:21:19 | 0:21:24 | |
# Be it ever so humble | 0:21:24 | 0:21:29 | |
# There's no place like home. # | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:21:34 | 0:21:35 | |
You don't get more respectful than that. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
You're singing about the virtues of home, the family and all that. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
-Yeah. -So, of course, people would applaud very loudly, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
-thinking, "Victorian values." -HE LAUGHS | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
Right. Oh, wow! | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
Now, cos I keep doing these blooming plays in London | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
that are so out of my depth, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
he must have been nervous | 0:21:55 | 0:21:56 | |
playing with these posher audiences, mustn't he? | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
He must have been, because people knew who the trades people were, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:03 | |
who the working people were, who the upper-middle-class were, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
who the aristocracy were, just an accent would give him away. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
-"Oh, we've got a working man in our drawing room!" -Really? | 0:22:10 | 0:22:15 | |
-So how...? -"But don't worry, he's a very good banjo player." | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
But it's incredible, cos my mum and dad | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
work all the workingmen's clubs up north | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
playing country and western music. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
And my dad is fantastic on the banjo, so this is just... | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
-But that is remarkable, isn't it? -It's just incredible. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
Because, you know, it was country and western music | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
that saved the banjo really. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
That kind of five-string banjo was enabled to survive | 0:22:36 | 0:22:41 | |
by early country musicians, Charlie Poole was an early example, | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
but then in the 1940s people like Earl Scruggs | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
in Bill Monroe's Bluegrass Boys... | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
-And bluegrass develops with the five string banjo.. -Bluegrass, that's it. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
I've heard my dad talking about bluegrass. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
And that's a three-finger style as well. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
-Right! So that's where the country and western link has come. -Yes! | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
-I cannot tell you... -This song, you must play it. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
I can't say how excited I am to tell him all this. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
I'm so proud of how talented he is. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
This link is so special for me. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:11 | |
I wonder, because when it comes to music, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
it's amazing how often a family seems to pass musical ability down. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:19 | |
You know, more and more on this journey, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
I'm wanting to learn to play. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:23 | |
I feel like I've got to, I have to carry on the tradition. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
It's becoming compulsory now, yeah. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
-Look, here it is. -Is this where we're going? -Yeah. -Yeah! | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
-I'm so excited! -Let's get in here. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
-OK. -Yes, I'm a gentleman. -Oh, excited. Thank you. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
-You are a gentleman. -Let's go. Hi, Nick. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
I've brought someone to see you. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
-Hello. -Sheridan. -Very nice to meet you. How are you? | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
-I'm good. How are you? -I'm very excited. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
She's suddenly become interested in the banjo. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
-Got plenty of 'em. -Have you? Can I have a look, please? -Yeah. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
-Head over this way. -I've got the Prof with me. -Fellow expert. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
He's brought me to you. And...yes. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
-Oh, wow! -Quite a few. -There's quite a lot of different types. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
So something like this. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
-Wow! -Check the tuning. BANJO PLAYS | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
-There you go. -It sounds amazing! -Nice and loud. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
-So... -Can I ask you a question? | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
-Certainly. -Please. You know... | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
-See my nails. -Uh-huh. SHERIDAN LAUGHS | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
Now, I'm a massive Dolly Parton fan | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
and she has big talons and can play, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
but she's got a certain way of doing it, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
now, is it best to have one hand with nails? | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
On one hand it's brilliant, yes. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
On one hand it's really good, because it adds volume and attack. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
To the plucking, yeah. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:36 | |
So it's really good, really useful to have. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
-On this hand, it's best to get rid of them. -OK. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
-If you can cope with it. -Dolly Parton doesn't. -But Dolly's amazing. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
-Dolly can do what she wants. -She keeps them long, I'll bet. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
-Yeah. -What if I can't play it? | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
I'm sure you'll be fine. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
I shall bring a stool across, cos it's best to sit. I'll hand you that. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
-Oh, my God! I'm going to do it now? -Yeah. SHE SCREAMS | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
I'm getting all hot under the collar cos it's pressure. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
My great-great-grandfather was amazing and so is my dad. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
-It will run in the family. You'll be fine. -You better be right. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
OK, do you want me to sit on here? Yeah, if you perch there | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
and I will bring another stool through to...across there. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
Oh, my God, I've never even held a banjo before. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
It's amazing, my dad's going to love this. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
That's fine the way you're holding it. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
If you try having that finger just there on that string, | 0:25:23 | 0:25:28 | |
-there... -Yeah. -..and the other one on the final string. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:33 | |
Here? No? | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
-Yeah. Yes, that will do, yeah. -Or is that one I'm meant to do? | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
Yeah, that's it. Now try... | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
Right. And now take them off and play that. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
Now put them on again. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
-Now we could play a tune. -Could we? -We could do | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
your great-great-grandfather's favourite - Home Sweet Home. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
Oh, stop it! | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
If you just strum at first on those, first that chord... | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
# Mid-pleasures... # | 0:26:03 | 0:26:04 | |
Change chord. Open. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
# And palaces... # | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
Open. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
# Though we may roam | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
# Be it ever so humble | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
# There's no place like home. # | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
That's brilliant! That's amazing. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
-There you go. Playing the banjo. -I played the banjo! | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
The first time you've ever picked up a banjo. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
Well, you helped by going duh-duh, duh-duh... | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
I felt really proud of him. To go from workingmen's clubs and go, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
"These people aren't listening to my skill" | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
and then going to all these posh venues with these posh people | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
and fit in because of his talent, you know... | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
That was like, yeah, good on you, great-great-grandpa. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
And he was going and rubbing shoulders with all these kind of | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
elite types and doing it with confidence. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
It's scary, but it didn't stop him, did it? | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
So, I kind of love that. I love that he's... | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
He had that kind of fighting spirit in him. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
Sheridan's great-great-grandfather was only a young man in his early 30s | 0:27:24 | 0:27:29 | |
when he performed in Sheffield's most prestigious concert hall in 1889. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:35 | |
To find out how Benjamin followed up on this extraordinary success, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
Sheridan has returned to his home town. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
At the Sheffield Archives, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
she's meeting historian Dr Ann Featherstone. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
I think the thing about Benjamin Doubleday is, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
even though he is a virtuoso performer on the banjo, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:59 | |
there are certain limitations to that. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
Performers have always been vulnerable | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
and certainly in the 19th century, you know, you worked to eat, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
that was it. The idea that everybody was a star and was making loads | 0:28:09 | 0:28:14 | |
and loads of money is not so cos most of the people were just about | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
making enough to keep going. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
And he is an excellent banjoist. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
-But he wants to do a bit more. -Right. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
I think he has aspirations and ambition. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:31 | |
Here's an advert from the trade paper | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
of the stage profession of the era. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
"Wanted, to complete Mr B Doubleday's ladies choir, | 0:28:36 | 0:28:41 | |
"pianiste." Pianiste? | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
Pianiste. Yes, um, a lady pianist, I would say. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:48 | |
"Must be brilliant soloist, RAM preferred." What...? | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
-Royal Academy of Music. -Wow! -So, again, want it... | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
They don't want a pub pianist. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:57 | |
They want somebody who can play properly. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
"Also a solo harpist, young lady or youth, and solo violinist." | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
Wow. That's not what I expected to hear. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
-That's really interesting. -Yeah. And he's got sort of two years | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
engagement in expectation that this is going to take off. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
And this is before it had started, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
so he just presumed it's going to be a success. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
-He knows he's got that drive. -Yeah. Yeah, yeah. -I love that. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
Here he is again, look. This is a review. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:27 | |
"The Sheffield and Rotherham Independent, February 19th, 1891. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
"The Royal American Choir." | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
The Royal American Choir? | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
Why have they called it that? Cos for one, they're not American, | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
and Royal - my dad did say we might be royalty. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
So, even my great-great-granddad's pretending he might be. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
But they weren't, they were working class. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
So, why would they call themselves the Royal American Choir? | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
-It's that exoticism, isn't it? It's a tag. -Oh, is it? | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
What, to get people to sound slightly more upmarket than you are. | 0:29:56 | 0:30:00 | |
-Yeah. -Royal American Choir, and he talks like that. -Yeah. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:05 | |
At least I can tell me dad we've got a bit of royalty in us, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
but it's not real. The word "royal", at least! | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
"There is not much doubt that the choir will become popular, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
"the enthusiastic applause which greeted the efforts of | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
"each performer being an encouraging augury of future success." | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
-Yeah. Yeah, yeah. -So, they're flying already. -Well, yes. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
"Mr B Doubleday gave a banjo solo in a way which showed | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
"that he was master of the instrument. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
"As if the programme did not contain variety enough, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
"the entertainment concluded with a sketch." | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
With his show, Benjamin Doubleday was hoping to profit | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
from a boom in entertainment. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
As the wage earning populations of industrial cities expanded | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
in the late 19th century, | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
entrepreneurs created purpose-built music halls | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
to keep them entertained. | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
And to attract the growing middle classes - | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
keen to maintain respectability - proprietors began to offer | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
a less bawdy version of music hall entertainment billed as variety. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
It was this audience that Benjamin Doubleday was chasing. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
I get a sense of Benjamin's ambition | 0:31:21 | 0:31:25 | |
to be an impresario, if you like. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:29 | |
To take, er, music out to the masses and make some money. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:35 | |
That's really interesting. And then at the end it says: | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
"Doors open at seven to commence at eight." | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
Mmm, what's that tiny bit? | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
Um, one shilling. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
Sixpence.. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
-And threepence. -And threepence. -Yeah. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
Now, was that cheap or was that quite expensive? | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
Well, that's quite expensive. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
I mean, that's not a cheap evening out. And a shilling | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
-is what you'd expect to pay for a good seat in the theatre. -Really? | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's refinement. You don't want any riff-raff. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
It's more than you would expect to pay in a pub music hall. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:10 | |
We're moving now to Sangers' Circus. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
"Sangers' Circus tonight. B Doubleday's American Choir." | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
It could seat up to 2,000 people there | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
-and he was going to do a month in Sheffield. -A month in Sheffield. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
-It's a massive venue... -Yeah. -..for a whole month. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
Will he have packed that out every night? | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
Well, we can see what's happening here. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
Because if we look here - so this is April 15th... | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
-Halfway through the run. -Halfway through the run. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
"Doubleday's American Choir is not attracting as large audiences | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
"to Sangers' Circus as might be expected." | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
-First bad review I've read. -Mm. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
"The entertainment provided is certainly above the average - | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
"the singing is good, there are one or two clever recitations | 0:32:49 | 0:32:54 | |
"and the programme finishes up with a laughable sketch." | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
So, they were... That's really sad. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
-They're still saying they're brilliant. -Yeah. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
-They just weren't getting the crowds in now. -Yeah. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
But I think what you've got to do is look at what else was going on. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
So, if you look at the reviews and also the ads at the same time. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:15 | |
So, here's Sanger, yeah, but look, there's... | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
There's something going on at the Theatre Royal, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
there's something going on at the Alexandra, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
there's something going on at the Albert Hall. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
-A full orchestra and ballet in Romeo and Juliet. -Yeah. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
So they were up against a lot of things. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
Lots and lots of competition, yeah. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
Even the Sheffield Industrial Expedition has got: | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
"the celebrated Anglo Viennese Ladies Orchestra." | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
So there's an added attraction. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
Right. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
-So, it's a bit like competition became stiff then? -I think so. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
And if you look where it is, there are other entertainment venues. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
-Venues, yeah. -Cambridge Hall. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
-Past up there, you'll see there's a music hall. -Grand Circus. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:59 | |
-Music hall there. -Music hall. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
-Over here is the Albert Hall. -Wow! | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
Public houses - all public houses would have singing... | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
and a lot of it would be free. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
To pack out a 2,000 seater, with all that competition's... | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
Yeah. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:14 | |
-..pretty... -Yeah. -..tough going? -Very tough. Very tough. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
Cos if you look on here... | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
"Sangers' Circus: Come and hear | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
"B Doubleday's American Choir tonight at 7.30. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
"Give what you please." | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
-Yeah. -Pay anything now. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
-Anything, yeah. -So, they're desperate now. -I think so. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
He's gone from charging to, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
say, to asking for donations. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
-God, it's cut throat. It's like it is nowadays. -Yeah, yeah. Yeah. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
But that's so devastating because he's all the way along he's grafted | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
and grafted and grafted, and he's had great reviews, | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
he did with banjo, and he took a risk putting on this massive show. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
But then he just came up against the competition and made a bad decision. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
That could actually send things disastrously wrong in the way | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
that you wouldn't be able to recover from if you weren't careful. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
But luckily, I mean, he can teach, he can play himself. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:04 | |
It's recoverable from, but this looks like a body blow. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
It was amazing to just find out about, you know, that | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
my great-grandfather went from banjo playing to suddenly | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
running this troupe. And then he went for the circus venue | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
and it didn't work. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:23 | |
I'm a bit nervous about what's to come now | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
and I hope it's not anything sad. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
Cos it's been so fun, you know, and I really admire him | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
and I still will whatever happens | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
but I hope it's not anything that's going to break my heart. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:39 | |
At Sheffield's local history library, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
Sheridan hopes archivist Tim Knebel can help her find out what happened | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
to her great-great-grandfather next. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
I know that my great-great-grandfather, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
Benjamin Doubleday, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
he took a blow career-wise and financially in 1891. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
And I want to know what happens after that, | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
-I'm hoping it's good news. -OK. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:23 | |
Right, well, to find out what he was doing and where he was living | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
at the time, we could have a look at local trade directories. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
-So, it was 1891 you said, wasn't it? -Yes. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
Unfortunately, we don't have one for 1892. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
-The next available one we have is 1893. -OK... | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
So, in these directories there should be the alphabetical list | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
of names of people living in Sheffield at the time. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
And it tells you what jobs they were doing. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
-If you want to find the... -Doubleday. -..D section. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
Come on, where are you, great-great-grandpappa? | 0:36:51 | 0:36:56 | |
There. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:57 | |
"Doubleday, Benjamin. Vict." What's "vict" mean? | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
That's an abbreviation for victualler. So, a publican. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
-Basically a pub landlord. -A pub landlord?! | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
That's right. And it gives the name of his pub just next to it. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
-The Woodman. Woodman. -Yeah. The Woodman Inn. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
South Street, Moor. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
Unfortunately, the Woodman Inn is no longer still standing. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
It was demolished in 1928, but we do have a couple of pictures of it | 0:37:20 | 0:37:24 | |
if you'd like to see what it looked like. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
Yeah. Yeah, I'd love to. Thank you. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
I don't know what that means. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
-OK. So here are the pictures. -OK. Yeah. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
-So, firstly there's a... -Wow! -..photograph here. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
Now, this photograph was taken probably turn of the 20th century | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
when they were laying the tram tracks in Sheffield. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
This is the Moor area. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:49 | |
And on the left there, that is the Woodman Inn. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
-That's his pub. -Yeah, that's his pub. -Wow! | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
And there were lots of back-to-back houses again in that area, | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
so it was very crowded. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
Obviously the picture, you can only just see a section of it there, | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
-but... -Yeah. -..in this old sketchbook, | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
which was compiled in the early 1900s, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
there was a clearer sketch of the Woodman, a really nice sketch there. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
-So, you can see the front. -The full thing. -Yeah. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
-It's a lovely pub, isn't it? -It is, yeah. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
It's quite a change from doing 2,000 seater venues to running a pub. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
Yeah, you wonder if he carried on the music alongside | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
-when he went in the pub. -I really hope he did, Tim. -Yeah. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
It is quite a tough old industry, you know, | 0:38:33 | 0:38:38 | |
and it's good to take risks like he did, which I've always done that. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:43 | |
But at the same time, this has confirmed that | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
one wrong choice and it could end. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
Sheridan wants to know if in his late 30s, running a pub, | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
and with four children to provide for, | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
her great-great-grandfather's banjo playing days were over. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:03 | |
She's meeting an expert on Sheffield history, Dr Helen Smith. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:08 | |
We have got some information about his life with the pub. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
This is from the Sheffield Evening Telegraph. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
-This was from the 7th February, 1894. -Oh, my goodness! | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
"About half past five o'clock this morning, Mr and Mrs Doubleday | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
"of the Woodman Inn, South Street, were awakened by a loud crash. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:28 | |
"Their alarm was heightened by the screaming of the children | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
"who occupied an adjoining room. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
"It was found that a large chimney stack had fallen through the roof, | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
"part into the bedroom and part into the bar. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
"Mr Doubleday's loss is estimated at £50." | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
Which is the equivalent of £3,000 in today's money. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
-So, it's quite a significant amount of money that he actually lost. -OK. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
We have another article from the same newspaper, | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
and this is from a year later. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
"Fire on Sheffield Moor. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
"Shortly before four o'clock this morning a fire broke out | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
"on the premises of Mr Doubleday, Woodman Inn, Sheffield, Moor." | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
-Oh, my God! -Yeah. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
So, this is just like it was his pub was kind of cursed. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
It seems like that in a way, doesn't it? We have another spell | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
of bad luck as well. This is July 5th, 1895. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
-So, this is a few months after this fire. -Not another fire. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:24 | |
SHE GASPS | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
"About half past one this morning Police Constable Whitehouse, | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
"perceiving that the seat of the outbreak was in the upper storey, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:34 | |
"Whitehouse went upstairs meeting on his way | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
"Benjamin Doubleday, the landlord, who appeared in a dazed condition." | 0:40:37 | 0:40:42 | |
SHE EXHALES | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
"In what..." | 0:40:45 | 0:40:46 | |
SHE SNIFFS | 0:40:50 | 0:40:51 | |
Sorry. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
No, no, take your time. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
"There was scarcely any furniture in any of the rooms. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
"Doubleday was the only person on the premises. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
"He was leaving the house this week having removed | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
"most of his belongings." | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
So, there was nobody there? | 0:41:09 | 0:41:10 | |
-There's no family there, no belongings there. -No. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
I don't understand now. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
I'm really confused as to why...that would happen? | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
And why there'd be two fires within a few months, you know? | 0:41:18 | 0:41:23 | |
-Yeah. It seems unlikely, doesn't it, that... -Strange. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
-..that would happen. -Yeah. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
But we have got another article from the 26th November that gives us | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
a lot more information about that situation. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
I'm not sure I want to read it. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
Yeah, I had a bad feeling in my tummy this might be it. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
"Serious Charge Against An Ex-Publican. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
"The fire at the Woodman Inn. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
"At the Sheffield City Police Court this morning..." | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
SHE EXHALES | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
SHE SNIFFS | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
Oh! God, I did not see any of this coming. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
-Is this quite a shock then for you? -A real shock. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
Cos like you say, it's been such a positive story. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
-Yeah. It's all been... -And he'd done so well. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
All been about theatre and, you know, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
what an incredible talented man he was, you know, and I've been | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
learning the banjo and I can see what a difficult instrument it is, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
and he taught himself, to bring up his kids and everything he's done | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
for his family, that this, now it just seems like a different person. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
-Yeah. -Sorry. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
"A Serious Charge Against An Ex-Publican. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
"At the Sheffield City Police Court this morning before the stipendiary | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
"magistrate, Benjamin Doubleday was charged with attempted arson. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:53 | |
"The charge against Doubleday was that on the 5th July, 1895, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
"he did set fire to the Woodman Inn, South Street, Moor, | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
"with intent thereby to defraud the Royal Insurance Company. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
"About one o'clock on the morning of Friday, the 5th July, | 0:43:06 | 0:43:10 | |
"Police Constable Whitehouse was near the Woodman Inn | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 | |
"when he detected a strong smell of fire. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 | |
"He found the gas burning in every room downstairs. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:22 | |
"On the landing at the top of the stairs | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
"he saw the prisoner who had a box of matches in his hand. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:29 | |
"He was fully dressed | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
"and seemed worse for drink." | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
-Yeah. -He was drunk. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:39 | |
It was just an insurance scam, was it? Or was he just... | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
I mean, where's the family? | 0:43:43 | 0:43:45 | |
Had he told them to get out while he sets fire to the place to get money? | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
What is it? | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
Well we've got information, um, a little bit later on in the article | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
as well, that Sarah Jane has actually left him | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
-and taken the children. -Oh. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:00 | |
And it looks like she's taken the furniture, | 0:44:00 | 0:44:03 | |
so he's on his own in the pub. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
So, it might not have been anything to do with trying to get | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
insurance money. And if his music career had flopped - | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
well, you know, hate saying the world flopped about him now - | 0:44:12 | 0:44:16 | |
but if his music career hadn't gone the way he wanted it to after | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
everything he strived to do, and it was all for the sake of his family, | 0:44:19 | 0:44:23 | |
and then his family left him, he's obviously going to be depressed. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
This last sentence really on this article is key to just give us | 0:44:26 | 0:44:30 | |
a little bit of an insight into how he was feeling at that time. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:34 | |
"Mr Howe applied for bail but prisoner said | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
-"he did not care for bail and he was remanded in custody." -Yeah. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:41 | |
-He didn't even want bail. -No. So to me that... | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
-He's depressed, he's down. -..quite important, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
-That's heartbreaking. -Yeah. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
A few weeks later we actually get to see what happened to Benjamin. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:54 | |
If I can just draw your attention to the last line. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:58 | |
-"The prisoner was found not guilty and discharged." -Yeah. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:02 | |
Yeah, Benjamin is found not guilty and he's discharged and that's it. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
I want to hug you. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:08 | |
That was such the information I was hoping for. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:10 | |
Oh! | 0:45:12 | 0:45:14 | |
'I didn't expect such a reaction. I didn't expect myself to just feel | 0:45:18 | 0:45:22 | |
'so immediately attached to my great-great-grandfather, | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
'but it's real life and it's what people have gone through. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
'It's the reason I'm here.' | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
That's good. I might be able to play the... | 0:45:30 | 0:45:32 | |
That shouldn't catch the other string, should it? | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
I just want to know what happened after the fire and being in prison. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:47 | |
What happened to Benjamin? | 0:45:47 | 0:45:49 | |
And what happened to Sarah Jane and all the rest of them? | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
There's so many unanswered questions | 0:45:54 | 0:45:56 | |
and a lot of kind of loose ends that need tying up. | 0:45:56 | 0:46:01 | |
Sheridan's learned from genealogist Eileen of a second cousin | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
who's been researching their shared family history. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:13 | |
'I'm hoping it's going to be nice and not quite so heartbreaking.' | 0:46:17 | 0:46:22 | |
-Hello. -Hello. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:25 | |
-Hi. -Hi. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
Louisa Gingell's also a great-great-granddaughter | 0:46:27 | 0:46:30 | |
of Benjamin Doubleday. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:32 | |
Nice to meet you. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:34 | |
-Oh, family! -I know. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:38 | |
-How are you? -Very well. How are you? -I'm good. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
-Thank you for coming to see me. -No, it's an absolute pleasure. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
-Oh, I've got so much to talk to you about. -I know. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
Oh, shall I sit down here with you? | 0:46:47 | 0:46:49 | |
Ah, I'm quite emotional. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:55 | |
-I know. It is, isn't it? -Yeah. -Yes. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:57 | |
I've got so much I want to ask you. | 0:46:57 | 0:46:59 | |
There's so many kind of question marks now over what... | 0:46:59 | 0:47:04 | |
happened around that time and where did Sarah Jane and the kids go? | 0:47:04 | 0:47:07 | |
Right. Well, I can tell you what happened to Sarah Jane. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:10 | |
This is the Census from 1901. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
-So, that's what, five or six years after they left the pub... -Right. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:19 | |
..in Sheffield. And she's gone to Birmingham. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
She's in Birmingham? | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
Yes. If you have a look. Here she is. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
And she's only got two of the children with her. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
SHE GASPS | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
What, so which children has she got with her? | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
She's got William, so our great-grandfather, | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
and their youngest sister, Caroline. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:41 | |
Wow. So what happened to May and Harriet? | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
They're actually in Sheffield, down here. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
"Benjamin Doubleday, May and Harriet." | 0:47:48 | 0:47:52 | |
-Yes, they're all living together. -They stayed with Benjamin? -Yes. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:57 | |
Wow! My goodness! | 0:47:57 | 0:47:58 | |
Mm. So, there's Benjamin, listed as a music teacher. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:03 | |
So, after his arrest and after everything else | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
and being found not guilty, he's still teaching music? | 0:48:06 | 0:48:08 | |
-Yes, he's teaching music. -Oh, brilliant! | 0:48:08 | 0:48:12 | |
-And if you look underneath... -Yeah. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
..his two daughters, May is listed as a professional pianist | 0:48:15 | 0:48:19 | |
and Harriet, who's also called Ettie, | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
is listed as a professional vocalist. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:25 | |
So, Harriet and May stayed with him | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
and they were all just still doing music. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:31 | |
-Can I show you a picture? -Yes. Yes. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
Have you ever seen this picture? | 0:48:36 | 0:48:39 | |
-Is that them? -It's them, yeah. Yes. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:48 | |
So, this is May. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:50 | |
-Yeah. -And this is Ettie. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
She's Harriet, but known in the family as Ettie. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:57 | |
Ettie. So they did keep doing music? | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
Yes, they did. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:02 | |
And you know, not just here, but if you have a look here... | 0:49:02 | 0:49:07 | |
there's a play bill which shows you they're performing in... | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
The vaudeville circuit, wow. In London, Bradford, Leeds... | 0:49:11 | 0:49:16 | |
-And that's from the... -The Palace, West Hartlepool. Wow! | 0:49:16 | 0:49:21 | |
-And if you have a look inside... -My goodness, look how old that is. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
How have you found all this? The Darrell Trio! | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
-That's what my dad said they were called, the Darrell Trio. -Yes. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
-Wow! Oh, gosh, it's all kind of coming together. -Yes. -Finally. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:35 | |
And, here's some of their publicity. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
Gosh, look. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:41 | |
Father and two girls. | 0:49:41 | 0:49:43 | |
Wow! | 0:49:43 | 0:49:45 | |
"The world's greatest lady banjoist." | 0:49:45 | 0:49:48 | |
-And that's May Fanny. That's May? -Yes. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:50 | |
And Darrell. Where would the name Darrell come from? | 0:49:50 | 0:49:53 | |
-I really don't know. -But they would have changed it? | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
After all the notoriety, maybe they didn't want to remind people | 0:49:56 | 0:50:02 | |
that they were associated with that. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:04 | |
Oh, gosh, what a relief that it didn't knock him completely | 0:50:04 | 0:50:08 | |
-and he got back on the banjo, shall we say. -Yes. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:11 | |
-And there's May with Benjamin. -With Benjamin. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:15 | |
-Oh, what a beautiful picture, the two of them there. -Yes. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
-I feel like that's like me and me dad - it's so weird. -Yeah. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:22 | |
-Oh, gosh, how amazing. -Yes. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
But unfortunately, all of this didn't last for very much longer. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:30 | |
-And, um... -Oh, no. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:33 | |
I've got something now to show you. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:35 | |
It's a death certificate. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:37 | |
"Benjamin Doubleday. Teacher of music | 0:50:39 | 0:50:43 | |
-"age..." -50. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:45 | |
-.."50" 50?! -Mm. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:47 | |
"Cause of death..." | 0:50:49 | 0:50:51 | |
-That's heart disease. -Heart disease. -Yes. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
-50 years of age. -Yes. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
Oh, no. | 0:50:57 | 0:50:59 | |
Did it say where or what caused it? Just, just that's just... | 0:51:01 | 0:51:06 | |
There is a harder, more difficult story | 0:51:06 | 0:51:08 | |
that was passed down through the family, | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
that my grandmother repeated to me, was that he always had a problem | 0:51:11 | 0:51:15 | |
with alcohol and that, um, when he died | 0:51:15 | 0:51:19 | |
he actually collapsed and was drunk. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:23 | |
Whatever his problems with drink, | 0:51:23 | 0:51:26 | |
he was very highly respected. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:29 | |
And I've got here a transcription of an obituary | 0:51:29 | 0:51:32 | |
that was written about him when he died. | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
"We regret to announce the death of Mr B Doubleday of Sheffield, | 0:51:35 | 0:51:40 | |
"the well-known teacher of the banjo, mandolin and guitar. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:44 | |
"He was professionally known by the name of Darrell, | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
"the Darrell Trio including himself and his two clever daughters, | 0:51:47 | 0:51:53 | |
"Miss May Darrell, being an exceptionally fine banjo player. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:57 | |
"Mr Doubleday's death removes one from the ranks of banjo, | 0:51:57 | 0:52:01 | |
"mandolin and guitar devotees, | 0:52:01 | 0:52:04 | |
"and who was at all times a thorough teacher and gifted artist. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:09 | |
"He will be much missed by many friends in the profession | 0:52:09 | 0:52:12 | |
"who mourn his loss." | 0:52:12 | 0:52:13 | |
SHE INHALES | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
-"Banjo World, May 1907." -Yes. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:19 | |
What a nice thing to be said about him really, though, isn't it? | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
-Yes, yes. -Well respected and highly skilled artist that he was. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:28 | |
Well, that's beautiful to keep, isn't it? | 0:52:28 | 0:52:30 | |
-Yes. I think it's best to remember him like that. -Definitely. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:35 | |
Wow! | 0:52:35 | 0:52:37 | |
Aye up, daddy. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
Hello, baby. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:39 | |
Oh, you look lovely. What you got on your back? | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
-What's that? -Banjo. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
-I don't know shape... -It's a banjo. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:47 | |
-I'll explain it all. I'll explain it all. -You look lovely. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:50 | |
-How are you? Mm. -I love you. -You all right? -Yeah. -Hello, Daddy. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:53 | |
-We've missed you. -Oh, I love you so much. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
-I can't wait to tell you everything. -Oh! I can't wait to hear it. | 0:53:56 | 0:54:00 | |
-Oh, I've got the most amazing story to tell you. -Come on in. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
Oh, good girl, come on in. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:04 | |
Remember you showed me the picture that you sent me | 0:54:05 | 0:54:08 | |
-off on my journey with? That's Benjamin. -That's Benjamin. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:12 | |
-And that's his daughters... -Oh, right. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
-..Ettie, and that's May. -Oh, that's May? | 0:54:15 | 0:54:18 | |
Yeah, that's May, that's Ettie. And that's Benjamin Doubleday. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:21 | |
-And they're the Darrell Trio. -Right. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:23 | |
Benjamin taught himself the banjo. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:25 | |
-You know like you taught yourself guitar and everything else? -Yeah. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:28 | |
Benjamin taught himself over those years | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
and he became, like, incredible on it. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:33 | |
Like, he started gigging around Sheffield. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
-But how mad that they were an act together like we were. -Yeah. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:40 | |
And also that Sarah Jane played with him. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:42 | |
-This is this is history repeating itself, innit? -Completely. | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
But without us realising it and you said | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
when you heard that music, that country music, | 0:54:47 | 0:54:49 | |
which is banjo based, isn't it, really, bluegrass and all that. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:53 | |
Yeah, I loved it, you know? I fell in love with the sound. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
So, that all makes sense now, don't it, that it's come from, like, | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
-this over a century ago without us even realising. -That's fantastic. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:03 | |
I've got more pictures here, look. That's Benjamin Doubleday. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:06 | |
-And that's May. -Yeah. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:08 | |
And this, I think, looks like me and you. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:10 | |
-I mean, it's a lot sterner version of me and thee but... -Yeah, yeah. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:13 | |
-Oh, yeah. -Awww. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
I'm getting a bit emotional myself. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
Oh, don't! You never get emotional. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
I know I've never met him, but I've got a picture of him in my mind now | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
-when you're talking about him. -Yeah, cos he's your great-grandfather, | 0:55:23 | 0:55:26 | |
and you imagine him probably looking like your grandfather. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:29 | |
-Cos I had an Uncle Ben and I imagine he'd look something like him. -Yeah. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:32 | |
But I reckon me and you should recreate that pose, | 0:55:32 | 0:55:34 | |
-because I've bought a banjo. -Aye, good. -Have you? | 0:55:34 | 0:55:37 | |
-I have been learning. -Have you? -Have you? | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
-Look. -What's that? | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
I've been learning a little song. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
I've learnt Home Sweet Home on the banjo. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:47 | |
But really, like, a novice, so you can teach me from here on in. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:50 | |
-Oh, well done. -Shall I play you it? -Oh, you're going to play it now? | 0:55:50 | 0:55:54 | |
-It won't be very good, but I'm going to have a go. -It'll be great. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:57 | |
# Mid pleasures and palaces | 0:55:59 | 0:56:02 | |
# Wherever we may roam | 0:56:02 | 0:56:06 | |
# Be it ever so humble | 0:56:06 | 0:56:10 | |
# There's no place like home | 0:56:10 | 0:56:14 | |
# There's no place like home | 0:56:14 | 0:56:18 | |
# There's no place like home | 0:56:18 | 0:56:22 | |
# There's no place like home | 0:56:22 | 0:56:27 | |
# There's no place like home. # | 0:56:27 | 0:56:31 | |
-Well done! -That was terrible! | 0:56:31 | 0:56:34 | |
-No, no, well done. -I'm so proud of you! Oh, look at me! | 0:56:34 | 0:56:38 | |
-That were great. -It's not very good though, is it? | 0:56:38 | 0:56:40 | |
And you're playing the proper chords, you're playing banjo chords. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:43 | |
-Am I? -Yeah. -But what I'd like to learn to do is do that. | 0:56:43 | 0:56:47 | |
-You know, like you do it. -Ah, finger-picking, yeah. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:50 | |
-Four finger roll, yeah. -I bust me finger. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:52 | |
There's little gadgets - finger picks. | 0:56:52 | 0:56:54 | |
I started practising it but I can't do it. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:56 | |
BANJO MUSIC CONTINUES | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
This is always what I've wanted to do for my dad, | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
to kind of give something back to him. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:21 | |
And I have my family to thank for everything now, I realise. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:27 | |
You know, growing up as a kid, singing with them, | 0:57:27 | 0:57:29 | |
and getting that bug from them, and the gene passed down | 0:57:29 | 0:57:32 | |
from my great-great-grandfather, Benjamin Doubleday. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:35 | |
I just wish I could have met him. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:37 | |
I now want to learn to play instruments | 0:57:40 | 0:57:42 | |
and go the country music route that my mum and dad have a bit. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:45 | |
And maybe...have a baby of my own. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:49 | |
I might be feeling a little bit broody right now. | 0:57:49 | 0:57:51 | |
But don't tell anyone cos you'll ruin my street cred! | 0:57:51 | 0:57:54 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:57:54 | 0:57:56 | |
SONG: "Romany Cowboy" | 0:57:56 | 0:57:58 | |
# With kind and gentle eyes | 0:57:58 | 0:58:01 | |
# Come home with me Romany Cowboy | 0:58:01 | 0:58:05 | |
# I'll keep you warm tonight | 0:58:05 | 0:58:08 | |
# Be alone with me Romany cowboy | 0:58:08 | 0:58:12 | |
# And everything'll be all right | 0:58:12 | 0:58:17 | |
# Everything'll be all right. # | 0:58:17 | 0:58:24 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:58:24 | 0:58:27 | |
-Well done, babe. -I love you, Daddy. -Well done. | 0:58:31 | 0:58:34 |