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Growing up in London, you sort of get asked all the time | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
where you're from because there are so many immigrants. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
I know very little about my family. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
Both my mother and father were born in Ghana | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
and my father's mixed race and that's about as far as it goes. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
You know, I know that there is a European part to my history, | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
hence my complexion, but beyond that, I don't really know much more. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
Reggie Yates was born in London in 1983. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:29 | |
He has an older sister, Cerise, | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
and half-siblings from his parents' later marriages. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
As an actor, DJ and TV presenter, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
Reggie has clocked up 23 years in radio and television - he's only 31. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:46 | |
Relationships and marriage are very much in the front of my mind now | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
and in Ghanaian culture there's this whole thing of a knocking, | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
where my family turn up at the family of my partner | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
and literally knock on the door and say, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
"Hi, we're the people that are taking your daughter." | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
And as I've been with my girlfriend for two years, my mum has literally | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
started knocking on my door going, "When are we going to knock on hers?" | 0:01:09 | 0:01:14 | |
I was raised almost entirely by my mother. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
My mother and biological father broke up | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
when I was about four years old | 0:01:20 | 0:01:21 | |
and, er, my mum remarried when I was around 11. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
I know a heck of a lot about my mother's side | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
because I grew up with that side of the family, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
but when it comes to my dad's side, I know not a lot. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
My father has been a very small part of my adult life. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
It sounds really ridiculous and actually kind of sad, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
but I've never met my grandparents. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
I don't know whether they're alive, I don't know where they live - | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
they could live in the next street. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
I know nothing. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
The logical starting point for me is with my dad. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
His family history - well, I say "his", it's mine too - | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
that family history is something that I want to investigate. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
My father and I share the same name. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
He's Reginald Yates, but his full name is Reginald Jojo Yates. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:43 | |
He goes by Jojo. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
Reggie's parents split up when he was four | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
and he's seen his father just a handful of times. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
My father's an incredibly talented musician | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
which I think on some level has informed a lot of my passions. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
Reggie and his dad are meeting up in north London. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
Jojo Yates makes traditional West African instruments. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
Hello, hello. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:15 | |
Oh, yeah. Wow, wow, wow. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
-How's it going? -Very well. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
You OK? Good to see you. Looking good. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
Good to see you, son. Wonderful. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
-Looking good. -Thank you. -You all right? -Yes, yes. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
Wow! So what is that that you were playing? | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
This is sepriwa, originated from Ghana | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
and it is an instrument that I made here. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
Is that guitar strings on it? | 0:03:35 | 0:03:36 | |
No, no, no, these are fishing lines. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
Went to the fishing line shop and got these. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
-Wow! -Yeah. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:42 | |
HE PLAYS SEPRIWA | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
That's how it sounds. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:48 | |
Yeah, it's beautiful. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
OK. So that's sepriwa. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
I don't remember very much and one of the things | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
that Mum told me about - | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
is kind of hazy because she told me when I was so young - | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
was something to do with you and immigration | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
and you being here in the UK | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
and it becoming quite a big deal | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
when the government tried to send you back to Ghana. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
So when I got here with your mum and Cerise came... | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
Yeah, that's my big sister. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
..and I was arrested for overstaying in the country. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
That's when the immigration problem started. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
I remember vaguely that Mum said | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
there was a "Save Reggie Yates" campaign. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
Yes. I've got some...a clip of that. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
What's this magazine? What's this? | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
This is City Limits. April 16th, 1982. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:46 | |
That's the year before I was born. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
You guys look so young. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
You're only 26. Ah, look at that afro! | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
"This week, Reggie Yates is waiting in his King's Cross home | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
"to find out whether or not he is to be removed to Ghana. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
"Although he is only one of many facing deportation, his case, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
"and the reasons given | 0:05:03 | 0:05:04 | |
"for refusing him permission to stay, is remarkable. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
"Yates was born in Ghana 26 years ago but his grandfather was English." | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
Jojo was born in 1956, a year before Ghanaian Independence, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:17 | |
in what was then the British colony of the Gold Coast. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
He would only be allowed to stay in the UK | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
if he could prove that he had British heritage. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
It says here your grandfather was English, was your dad not English? | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
No. My dad was born in Ghana. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
-OK. -Yeah. With an English father. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
-Have you got a picture of him? -Yeah, I have. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
There you go. Harry Philip Yates. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
Your grandfather. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
-Wow! -Yeah. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
-That's the first time I've ever seen... -Yeah? -..seen him. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
He looks like he's got quite light eyes. And my mother always said, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
"Oh, yeah, your grandad had blond hair and blue eyes," and I never... | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
-Yeah. She saw him. -Yeah? Wow. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:57 | |
And he stayed in the house in King's Cross, yeah. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
-Really? -Yeah. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
-He's a handsome man. -Yeah. -He looks like a bit of a heartbreaker. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
-The ladies must have loved him. -Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
-Yeah? -Oh, yes. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
So your father, er, was of mixed race? | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
Yes. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:13 | |
Jojo's father, Harry Yates, was born in the Gold Coast. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:18 | |
His father was English and his mother was a local woman. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
They had a customary marriage - | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
a wedding ceremony recognised as legitimate, by Ghanaian law. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
Their son Harry visited the UK during Jojo's immigration battle | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
to stand up for Jojo in court. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
My father stood up and said, "Look at me. Look at the mix." | 0:06:37 | 0:06:42 | |
"The chairman of the tribunal, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
"a former colonial servant, made it clear in his adjudication | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
"what he thought of Yates' grandfather. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
"'I find it extremely unlikely that Yates' grandfather believed | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
"'that he was entering into a valid marriage with Yates' grandmother.'" | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
Wow! | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
"He went on to say he could not believe that Yates' grandmother | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
thought it was a valid marriage if she gave it any thought at all." | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
-This is unbelievable! -Yeah. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:05 | |
So this man was saying this in the court at the time. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
In court, yes. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
Wow! And did anybody... Was anybody offended by it? | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
-Did anybody speak? -I was very offended. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
That time too, customary marriages were very taken very seriously. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
The chairman of the tribunal ruled that | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
Jojo's grandparents' customary marriage was invalid | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
and therefore Jojo's father, Harry, was illegitimate, | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
and his British heritage was not recognised by law. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
Well, that's shocking. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
-In the end they granted me... -A stay. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
..a stay in the country because I was married to... | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
Your mother was a British citizen, so I was granted a stay here. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
Jojo was finally granted leave to stay | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
after his wife became a British citizen. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
Jojo has more pictures of his father, Harry, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
taken when Harry was a much older man. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
-Huh! Oh, is that him? There he is. -Yeah, there's him there. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
And where am I? | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
That's you there? | 0:08:07 | 0:08:08 | |
-There. -There you are. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
THEY LAUGH Look at that. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
You even had a 'tache then! | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
Was you born with a moustache? You've got one there. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
I was young, but I was just growing it. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
So your dad in this photo | 0:08:22 | 0:08:23 | |
-seems like every bit the proud African father... -Exactly. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:28 | |
..sat with his wife and his huge family. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
But he does look like he is of mixed race, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
-but he looks more white than he does black in this picture. -Yes. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
-And this is my... -Your mother. -..my mother, yeah. Diana Yates. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:41 | |
Yeah, there's another one, when he came here. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
Your grandfather. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:46 | |
His face is brilliant! It's such a cheeky face. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
-Yeah. -He looks like a bit of a character. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
Hearing you talk about your dad, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
my grandfather, in past tense says to me that he passed away. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
Yeah, he passed away. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
Um, he passed away 19... 2000, the year 2000, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
and he passed away in his sleep with his wife lying next to him. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
-Wow. -Yeah. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
That's really sad. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
Yeah. Mm-hm. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
Is my grandmother still alive? | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
She died as well. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
-So she passed away... -She passed away. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
-..shortly after he did? -Not too long, yeah. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
Of all of Harry's children, only an adopted son, JB, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
still lives in their home in Ghana. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
You have to see JB when you go to Ghana. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
-Who's JB? -My father adopted him, so he grew up with us. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
-Right. -He spent all his life with us. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
-Right. -And when we all came here, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
he spent the rest of my father's life with him. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
So he spent all the time. He knows everything about us. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
I'm really excited about getting out there now. Thank you. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
You will enjoy it. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:53 | |
There is a level of sadness on my part | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
because I wish I'd known, or at least met, my grandfather Harry, | 0:09:57 | 0:10:02 | |
and it's sad that I don't know him | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
and I don't have any memories of my own about that man. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
Reggie's flying to Ghana, where he hopes to find out more | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
about his grandfather Harry and his background. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
As I'm getting older, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:30 | |
I'm understanding the importance of family | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
and, you know, at some point I hope to be a father, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
and regardless of my relationship with my dad, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
I think it's incredibly important that my children have | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
a relationship with their grandfather. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
And I want them to be able to know who their family are | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
and know what their history is. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
From the capital, Accra, Reggie's heading west along the coast | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
to the city of Sekondi, where his father was born and raised. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
Reggie's brought with him a file of memorabilia from his father. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
It's really strange for me | 0:11:19 | 0:11:20 | |
because I don't know much about this side of the family but... | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
suddenly I feel that I'm one of many, which is a really nice feeling. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:29 | |
My grandfather looks awesome. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
I wish I knew more about this guy. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
Along with photos, the file contains documents his grandfather, Harry, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
gave to Jojo to help him with his immigration battle. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
Oh, wow! | 0:11:48 | 0:11:49 | |
"In the High Court of Ghana, Western Region, Sekondi." | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
This is an affidavit. This is the actual thing. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
This isn't a copy, is it? Wow! | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
This affidavit is actually signed by my grandfather, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
Harry Philip Yates. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
"I, Harry Philip Yates, | 0:12:06 | 0:12:07 | |
"of House Number 43/9 Fifth Street, Sekondi, Ghana, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
"make oath and say as follows... | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
"One, that I am the father of Reginald Yates | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
"of 82 St John's Avenue, London, NW10." | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
It would appear that this document is him swearing that he is | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
the father of my father, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
and that he is of English descent. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
I didn't even know my great-grandfather's name. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
George Edward Yates. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
Doesn't get more English than that, does it? | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
"Employed at the Broomasi Mines, now defunct, as paymaster." | 0:12:35 | 0:12:40 | |
At point six it says, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:43 | |
"That my mother was Mrs Dorothy Vardon, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
"that her maiden name was Dorothy Lloyd. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
"And my mother's father was EJ Lloyd, born in England." | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
No way. That makes my great-grandmother mixed race. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
You know, you sort of have in your head that there are | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
these mixed race relationships in the family, | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
but it seems that it's not just from one generation, | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
it's from two, and potentially even more than that. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:13 | |
So the mix in my family started a long time ago, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
much earlier than I thought. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:21 | |
Reggie's grandfather, Harry Yates, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
swore that his British ancestry came from his father, George Yates, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
an Englishman working for a mining company in the Gold Coast. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:36 | |
And Harry swore that his mother, Dorothy, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
also had a British father whose surname was Lloyd. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
Well, off the back of this document | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
it makes sense that I follow my dad's advice and head to Sekondi | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
where I'm going to meet this guy, JB, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
who knows a hell of a lot about my family, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
and hopefully he's at this address. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
In the 100 years before Ghanaian independence in 1957, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
the city of Sekondi was a strategic commercial port | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
at the heart of the British colony. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
British and other European businesses | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
established headquarters in Sekondi. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
And the European men they employed arrived here | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
before journeying on to gold mines, timber, palm and cocoa plantations. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:35 | |
In the early years of the 20th century, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
a new railway came to Sekondi, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
making its marketplace one of the busiest in the region. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
It became a cosmopolitan city | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
with a local elite of mixed European and African heritage. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
Sekondi's hilltop became known as European Town. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
Reggie's family's house is down the hill | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
in the heart of the Central Market district. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
Hello. Are you JB? | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
I'm JB. And that's Reggie! That's my boy! | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
-How you doing? -All right, brother! | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
-How you doing? You all right? -All right. I'm good. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
Hello, good to meet you. Good to meet you. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
-Nice to meet you too, yes. -I'm Dora. -Hello. Nice to meet you. -Your auntie. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
Hello. Wow! Oh, wow. OK. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
I can't believe it! You're welcome. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
Yes. It's good to be here. Shall we go inside? | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
Come on, let's go home. Let's go home. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
-Hello, how you doing? -Yeah, all right. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
-I look like my dad? -Yes, you look like him. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
Really? | 0:15:38 | 0:15:39 | |
Yeah, just a little more Twi than Fante. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
-Kitte, kitte. -Kitte, kitte. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
Come on, come on, come in, come on. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
With JB is Dora Adolphus, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
a distant relative who also grew up in this house. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
Come in. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
Thank you so much for having us. Thank you. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
Oh, great. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
Reggie! | 0:15:59 | 0:16:00 | |
My dad has told me that you are the guy to speak to. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
Heard about you too. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:04 | |
This house has been in the family for a long time? | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
Oh, since 1928. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
First of all, you were welcomed into the Yates family. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
Yeah. The only word I think I can use is adoption. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
-Adoption, yeah. -Yeah. -Wow. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
So you've been living with the Yates family, | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
and namely my grandfather, Harry, for how long? | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
Er, became attached with the family when I was about, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
um, 19, 20 years, and now I'm 58. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
I was the only dark guy among the guys, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
so people call me the black Yates, you know what I mean? | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
I grew up with most of the children. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
So from head to toe, I know everything about the Yates. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
So what can you tell me about my grandfather? | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
Your grandfather is a very, very industrious man. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:51 | |
-Right. -Very hard working person. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
What did he do? Where did he work? | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
Your grandfather, hmm, that's the jack-of-all-trade. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
-The old man was a timber merchant. -Timber merchant. -Timber. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
Harry Yates worked in various businesses - | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
selling timber and in the sugar industry. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
Then he became a farmer. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
What do you remember about my, my grandfather? | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
-He'd fix it. So he'd fix everything? -Everything. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
So for a man that looked like this, he must have stood out, | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
-everybody must have known him, I imagine. -Yes, yes. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
Was he quite well known in Sekondi? | 0:17:38 | 0:17:39 | |
Anywhere that he goes people call him "obruni", | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
that means white man. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:43 | |
Obruni, yeah, yeah. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:44 | |
The term "obruni" is used to refer to white Europeans. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:52 | |
Did everybody see him as Ghanaian | 0:17:52 | 0:17:53 | |
or did people see him as an Englishman? | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
Initially, those, you know, the local people around, you know, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
they see him as a white man, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
but he doesn't want anybody to call him a white man. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
Right. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:05 | |
And the person I don't know much about is my grandmother, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
so, his wife. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:09 | |
-Would you like to see a picture of her? -Yeah, please. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
Yeah, your grandmother, Mrs Diana Yates. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
Let me see. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:15 | |
-Wow! -That's it. -That's Diana. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
Your grandmother, Diana. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
So how did my grandfather Harry and my grandmother Diana get together? | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
Actually, it's an amazing story. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
Your grandfather, on his way going to work, he saw your grandmother, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
a sewing machine on the head, you know, it was... | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
-A sewing machine? -Yeah, a sewing machine. She was a seamstress. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
According to Diana's sister, say, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
"Obruni white man, what do you want from me?" | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
And he said, "Well don't worry, you, let's get to your family house. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
"When we get there, I will let you know what I want from you." | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
So he follow her to the house | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
and tell the parents that he wanted to marry this woman. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
Just imagine. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:55 | |
There's a lot of Yates boys, isn't there? | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
-A lot. -How many children did my grandfather have? | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
He had 14. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
-16. -16, rather, yeah. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
16? Which one? Pick one. Which one was it? | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
16! | 0:19:08 | 0:19:09 | |
Your grandfather actually had ten solid children with Diana. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:15 | |
Wow, she gave him ten? That's incredible. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
Ten. That is two girls and eight boys. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
Right. Wow! So 16 children with how many women? | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
About five women. 16 solid children. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
When your grandfather was alive they come here. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
They were all here. They were all together. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
And that's your great-grandmother. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
-Wow! -Dorothy. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
So this is my grandfather, Harry Philip, this is his mother? | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
-Yes. -And she is as fair as he was. -Yeah. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
And her surname was Vardon? | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
Yes. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:53 | |
So why didn't she take the Yates name? | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
Initially, she was Yates. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
And then after your great-grandfather departed, | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
she got married to the Vardon. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
That's why later became... | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
OK. So her second husband was Vardon. I see. OK. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
Reggie's great-grandmother, Dorothy, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
made her living as a market trader. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
Women dominated the marketplaces of the Gold Coast. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
Wives of fishermen sold the daily catch, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
and those from the countryside brought produce to urban markets. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
Dorothy built a successful business | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
supplying provisions to commercial ships and became wealthy enough | 0:20:36 | 0:20:41 | |
to maintain the house Reggie's visiting. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
What can you tell me about this picture of my great-grandmother? | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
Where was this actually taken? | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
-This very picture? -Yeah. -On this very step. This very house. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
-Just here? -Just here. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:56 | |
-Can we see? -Yeah. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
That is there. That's exactly it. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:02 | |
So, right here. Just here. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
-It's coming right here. -Yeah. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
What was she like, then? Do you remember her? | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
Mama, that what everybody calls her, Mama tall and fat. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
Mama is a very lovely woman, big character. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
That's it - big character, you know, yeah. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
As a young woman, before she came to Sekondi, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
Dorothy gave birth to her son, Harry, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
in the gold mining settlement of Broomasi. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
Harry's English father, George Yates, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
was working there as an accountant for a British mining company. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
So when my grandfather was a baby in Broomasi, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
I know that he was obviously brought up by his mother, Dorothy, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
but was he living with his dad, George? | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
-Yeah. When George had that malaria or fever... -So he got ill? | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
Yeah, he got ill, so he have to go back | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
and wanted to take Harry along with him. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
He wanted to take my grandfather Harry with him? | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
-Yes. -When my grandfather was a young boy or...? | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
Yes, very, very young. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
But Dorothy had only Harry, so you know, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
they're wondering what about if they take my boy away, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
you know, what's going to happen? | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
So they decided Harry should stay. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
If you really want to come back, leave Harry, go and come back. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
-That's why Harry... -Stayed here. -..stayed here. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
While in the Gold Coast, Reggie's great-grandfather, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
George Yates, became so ill he had to return to England. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:41 | |
I've got a story that Auntie Dora's grandmother told me. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
-Right. -Your great-grandfather left a lot of money. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
He left gold dust to be taking care of your grandfather. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
-Yeah. -You understand? | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
So your great-grandfather left a lot of money. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
-And did he ever come back? -Never. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
-Wow! -So nobody knows what happened to him. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
George Yates came to the Gold Coast | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
to work as an accountant for a British gold mining company. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
Britain's largest supply of gold came from South Africa. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
But in the late 19th century | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
there was a push to make mining in the Gold Coast more productive. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
This brought men like George Yates to the colony, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
where they sometimes formed ties with local women. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
I had no idea that my great-grandfather was not only | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
an Englishman that came to Ghana and had a child, but left that child. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:55 | |
Because, you know, I've been estranged from my father | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
for so many years and whether I like it or not, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
the things that make him him have almost defined me, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
even though we've not been together for such a long period of time. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
There's definitely parallels there. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
So, I'm desperate to know more about George Edward Yates now | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
and why he never came back and what happened to him. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
And also, the influence that might have had on Harry. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
-Hello. -Hi. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:23 | |
Hey. How you doing, Carina? | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
Fantastic. Nice to meet you, Reggie. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
-Shall we head in? -Yeah, let's go to the reading room. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
Historian, Carina Ray, is an expert on the Gold Coast colony. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:35 | |
She's been looking into Reggie's great-grandfather, George Yates. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
The history of the mixing in my family | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
is the thing that I'm super interested in. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
This is an affidavit by Harry Philip Yates | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
and it says that his father, George Edward Yates, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
was born of London, England in about 1870 to English parents. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
So he is an Englishman, a white man, who's found himself here in Ghana. | 0:24:55 | 0:25:00 | |
I have a number of passenger lists that allow us to see him | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
travelling between Britain and Africa. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
Let's have a look together. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
The first record Carina's found is for travel to South Africa. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
So this is from 1902. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
Although it just says "Cape," | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
we know that they're in Cape Town, South Africa. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
Right. OK. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
Here are the names of the passengers | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
and I think you'll see a name that looks familiar there. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
Yates, there we go. Yeah. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
Yates... Is that an M? | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
-It's a W. -W? -Yes. -OK. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
You're right, it's GW Yates. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:39 | |
-In your affidavit we have... -George Edward. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
-..George Edward Yates. -Mm. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
We can track a GW, or a George William Yates, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
from South Africa to Sekondi, going back and forth. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
There is no George Edward Yates, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
so we believe that the affidavit is incorrect. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
Is incorrect. OK. | 0:25:58 | 0:25:59 | |
So this George W Yates was him | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
and he was George W as opposed to George E? | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
Yeah, so... Exactly. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
Does that say that he's married? | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
Yes. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:10 | |
So he was married in England before he came to Ghana? | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
Yes. So in 1902 he's married | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
and he appears to be travelling with his wife. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
-Wow! -And, er, there's something else below. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
That's not children, is it? | 0:26:24 | 0:26:25 | |
Yes. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
-Oh, my God! OK. -They have a one-year-old son. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
Let's have a look at the next one. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
It shows us your great-grandfather | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
travelling in April, 1907 to Sekondi. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:42 | |
The important thing about this particular document | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
is that it shows him arriving by himself in the Gold Coast. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
George Yates followed the typical pattern | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
for British men working in the gold mining industry. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
Wives and children often went to South Africa | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
but not to the Gold Coast. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
The danger from malaria and tropical diseases | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
earned it the nickname "white man's grave". | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
So, most British men travelled here alone. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
Would it be fair to say that | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
it was almost expected of, sort of, Englishmen to find a new wife | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
when they came to West Africa for long periods of time? | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
Yeah. For sure, it was not uncommon for European men | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
to have relationships with African women in the colony. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
This had been, you know, a very long tradition. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:37 | |
George and his British colleagues | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
were contracted for long stints in the colony | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
interspersed with visits to their families at home. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
Carina has tracked George Yates in England as well. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
Let's have a look at a census from 1911. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:59 | |
George William Yates, Ethel Rose Yates. So what's this? | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
This shows the family in Middlesex. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
Wow. So you've not only got my great-grandfather, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
George William Yates, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
but his wife, Ethel Rose, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
and he's got children, he's got two sons and two daughters, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
William, Rose, Douglas and another Ethel, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
Ethel Jr, look at that. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
This allows us to know | 0:28:25 | 0:28:26 | |
that even after he resettled his family back in England | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
and came to Sekondi, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
that he continued to go back and forth | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
between the Gold Coast and Middlesex | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
and continued to have children with his white wife. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
So would this be the complete family in the UK? | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
No. There's more to come. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
Oh, my God! What is wrong with these Yates men?! | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
They just can't stop. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:50 | |
-Prolific! -Yeah. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
I think if we look at the affidavit | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
we see that your grandfather, Harry, | 0:28:55 | 0:29:00 | |
was born in Broomasi on November 15th, 1915. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:05 | |
Yeah. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
So what I want to show you is an excerpt from the Gold Coast Leader. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:12 | |
It's in very fine print, so I'll just point it out to you. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
"Our good Paymaster Yates | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
"was among those on the sick list last week. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
"Mr George W Yates, our chief accountant here, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
"is to leave for England on the 13th of next month." | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
So this is June, 1915, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:32 | |
and so he leaves in July, 1915. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
Yeah. With the imminent birth of his son. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
-Right. -It's funny he got sick around that time, isn't it? | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
Well, you might be surprised to see something. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
Let's look at this. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
OK. "September, 1915." This is him arriving in Liverpool. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
-No. -Is this not him? | 0:29:49 | 0:29:50 | |
-This is him leaving Liverpool... -Leaving Liverpool, OK. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
..going to West Africa. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
Right. So he's come back? | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
-He comes back before his son is born. -Right. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
So, you're right that he fell ill and he left during the pregnancy... | 0:29:59 | 0:30:04 | |
-It was almost a little too convenient. -Right. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
But I think that puts a little bit of a different spin | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
-on the idea that... -Slightly. -..he would have been a man | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
who impregnated a woman and then left. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
It says to me that he intended to be in the Gold Coast | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
when his son was born. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
Reggie has heard that George got ill again | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
when his son Harry was very young | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
and left the Gold Coast, never to return. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
He also, according to the history, again from JB, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
he left Dorothy with some gold dust to look after herself | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
and to look after her son. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
So...it's quite tough for me. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
I'm kind of torn as to... as to his motives. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
What I see is an itinerant father, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
not just to Harry, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
-but to all of his children. -Yeah. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
And it was the nature of the work that he was engaged in. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
You know, that the mining industry was a global industry | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
and men had to go where they could get a lucrative contract. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
But I think that we can say that for the time that he was here | 0:31:02 | 0:31:07 | |
he had a meaningful relationship with Dorothy, cared for her | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
and he cared for his son. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
After he leaves the Gold Coast, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
he doesn't settle permanently in England, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
he actually takes a position in Nigeria. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
He doesn't start another family in Nigeria, does he? | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
-Not that we know of! -THEY LAUGH | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
And Nigeria wasn't his last stop in his mining career. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:35 | |
Is that him? | 0:31:35 | 0:31:36 | |
-"Death of Mr GW Yates." That's him! -Yes, that is your great-grandfather. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
Wow! | 0:31:42 | 0:31:43 | |
He leaves the Gold Coast in 1917 | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
-and he dies in 1925. -Shortly after. Yeah, 1925. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
"The news of the death of Mr George William Yates, aged 44." | 0:31:59 | 0:32:04 | |
Wow! "The greater part of the past 18 years | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
"he spent abroad fulfilling appointments with gold, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
"silver, platinum and tin mining companies, first in South Africa, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
"then the Gold Coast, Nigeria and Colombia, South America." | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
Wow! This is a massively well-travelled man. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
-Yes. -He's been... "While in New York..." Wow! | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
"..on his journey home, | 0:32:24 | 0:32:25 | |
"he contracted a chill which was followed by pneumonia. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
"He reached England and passed away on December 22nd." | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
Wow! | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
That's a lot to take in. That's... | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
That's crazy, I now know what he looks like. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
-What did you imagine he looked like? -I don't know. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
I genuinely had absolutely nothing in my head with, um, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
my grandfather Harry being so racially ambiguous, you know. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
In some photos he looks quite mixed race | 0:32:52 | 0:32:53 | |
and in other photos he looks very European. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
So if we put them together... | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
Wow! | 0:33:00 | 0:33:01 | |
-Yeah, he's definitely his father's son, isn't he? -Yeah. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
Sort of squinty little eyes! | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
Some might say that's carried on through the family. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
Wow! | 0:33:13 | 0:33:14 | |
Where do you think that left Harry, | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
being here in Ghana without a connection to his father | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
and his father's lineage? | 0:33:21 | 0:33:22 | |
I think Harry was absorbed into his mother's family. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
The parallels in this story between Harry and myself are... | 0:33:27 | 0:33:32 | |
a little scary because that's essentially what's happened to me in the UK, you know. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
My relationship with my father is distant. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
I know that at quite a young age I felt, not abandoned, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
but I felt that there wasn't a connection to my father's side | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
and that history of European men. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
-That's just so fascinating to me. -Yeah. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
It's even more fascinating to me because it's my family! | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
Yeah! Yeah, yeah, of course. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
And there's so much more to this story than I thought. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
-It's incredible. Thank you. -Yeah. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
-Thank you very much. -It's a pleasure. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
George Yates is someone I was a little undecided on | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
because on face value it's a wealthy white man | 0:34:10 | 0:34:15 | |
who's come to an African country, with a family at home, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:19 | |
and started another family, then he's gone. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
But the intricacies of that story | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
say a lot more about him as a man. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
I don't agree with having | 0:34:32 | 0:34:33 | |
a couple of families that don't know about each other, | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
but I think the fact that he wanted to take Harry back to the UK | 0:34:37 | 0:34:42 | |
throws into question what his priorities were, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
how much he loved his son. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
So my feelings on my great-grandfather have changed. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
By 1917, George Yates had left Reggie's great-grandmother, Dorothy. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:02 | |
Their son Harry was just two years old. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
To find out what happened to Dorothy and Harry, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
Reggie's on his way to have an audience with a local chief. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
Ghana's traditional hereditary rulers | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
still play a significant role in Ghanaian culture, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
not least as keepers of their community's oral history. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
Reggie's meeting a chief of the highest rank - | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
Paramount Chief Nana Kwabena Nketsia. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
JB will make the formal introductions. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
And look at JB, he looks amazing! | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
-JB! -Yes, sir. -How you doing? -All right, bro. -You OK? | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
-Yes. -Good to see you. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
Nice to see you, too. Nice to see you. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
So is he... Is Nana Nketsia ready? | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
-Yeah, we're going to give him... -Right. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
Also in attendance are Nana Nketsia's mother | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
and another elder. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:09 | |
They must speak first through the chief's spokesperson. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
Thank you. Thank you first of all for, er... | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
MAN SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY OK. OK. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
Thank you for...for finding the time to speak to me. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
Um, and thank you, JB, for bringing me, as well. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
Having an audience with you is really important to me | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
because I'm trying to find out as much as I can about my... What's that? | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
MURMURING Oh, of course. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
In a chief's court in Ghana, | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
it's considered disrespectful to gesticulate | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
or to give or take with the left hand. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
You see an African with that English head. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
And much as you are African, | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
as soon as you stood up, your mannerisms - | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
throwing your left hand around - | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
I understood that... | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
I was wondering which side of the divide you belong to. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
So the little things that we are showing you | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
are to do with basically our culture and the way we do things here. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:09 | |
HE CHUCKLES I'm learning as I go, | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
so forgive me if I make mistakes. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
I'm trying to find out as much as I can about my family | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
and in particular, my great-grandmother Dorothy | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
and my grandfather Harry, Harry Philip Yates. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
I know very little and from the time that I've been in Ghana | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
I've learnt a small amount, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
and I was hoping maybe you could add to that. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
OK. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:32 | |
When I learnt that you were coming here | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
and belonged to the Yates family... | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
The name Yates, it's a Sekondi name. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
Most of us have even forgotten that Yates is an English name. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:46 | |
We say Obruni Yates. That's "the white man Yates". | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
He was more African than we could ever think about. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
You used to see Obruni Yates sitting there and he was always smiling. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:58 | |
You have a very wonderful family and I think that, um, | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
there's one thing about we Africans, and that is the ancestors. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
You know, they live in us. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:07 | |
Can I ask about my great-grandmother, Dorothy? | 0:40:07 | 0:40:11 | |
A very interesting woman. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
Dorothy came from another place west of here, | 0:40:14 | 0:40:20 | |
called Dixcove, | 0:40:20 | 0:40:21 | |
with her mother, called Sarah. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
But they moved to...to Tarkwa. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
As a young woman, | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
Reggie's great-grandmother Dorothy moved from her home at Dixcove | 0:40:31 | 0:40:36 | |
to a boom town called Tarkwa. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
Tarkwa was linked to Sekondi by a railway line | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
that took men north to the gold mines, including Broomasi, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
where Reggie's great-grandfather, George Yates, worked. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
Tarkwa was the first major stop from Sekondi from the coast. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:56 | |
That's where your great-grandfather, I believe, | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
saw Dorothy and married her. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
Dorothy was married to George W Yates | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
and he was an Englishman. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
The details of her relationship with my great-grandfather | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
have almost directly affected me, | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
based on the fact that it was a customary marriage. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
So, in the mind of somebody like Dorothy, | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
it was a real, traditional and an authentic marriage. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
It was not acceptable for British men to marry African women | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
in colonial courts or churches. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
A customary marriage, a local wedding ceremony, | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
was one way a mixed race couple could legitimise their union | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
in the Gold Coast, | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
even if, as in Reggie's great-grandparents' case, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
the marriage would never be deemed legal in Britain. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
It is a fundamental problem brought in by colonisation. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:55 | |
So, um, I always laugh that our great-grandmothers, | 0:41:55 | 0:42:00 | |
and the ones before them, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:01 | |
our ancestors, our shared ancestors, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
that was the form of marriage they took. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
So according to English law, we are all bastards! | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
I mean, it's absurd. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
We have our own way of doing things. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
You bring English common law, which is English customary law, | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
and you want to impose it on me. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
Your great-grandmother was well married. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
Well, well...your great-grandmother was well married. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
It's customary, it's accepted. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
I saw this and wanted you to read something about Dorothy Lloyd. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
This was, er, a paper that was run by Casely-Hayford. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:42 | |
In January of 1919, | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
Sekondi's most prominent citizens called a meeting | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
and put the prohibition of alcohol on the agenda. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
The Temperance Movement was at its height in Britain and America | 0:42:55 | 0:42:59 | |
and its influence was spreading. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
Many at the meeting spoke out | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
against importing alcohol to the Gold Coast. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
-Make sure you use your right hand. -Yes, I've made sure. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
-My left is taped to my thigh, now! -This is about liquor. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
Just read somewhere here and I'll give you an explanation of it. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
-You'll see Dorothy Lloyd. -Where am I reading? | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
Dorothy...Miss Dorothy. "..said Miss Dorothy Lloyd, | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
"striking a note in favour of the continuance of the traffic. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
"'The discontinuance of liquor in the Gold Coast | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
"'will be a great detriment to females. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:30 | |
"'Liquor helps a woman a great deal after childbirth. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
"'It also helps the native doctor | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
"'in preparing medicine for his patient. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:36 | |
"'And as such, I say that the importation of liquor into the coast | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
"'must be continued.'" | 0:43:39 | 0:43:40 | |
So she's fighting for liquor to come into the area | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
and she's saying it's for health reasons! | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
-That's brilliant. -Yeah, better. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
I'll get there eventually. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
It also says a lot about my great-grandmother, Dorothy, | 0:43:55 | 0:43:57 | |
and the standing that she had. | 0:43:57 | 0:43:59 | |
And at this point she's still quite a young woman | 0:43:59 | 0:44:01 | |
who seems to have quite a respected voice. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
She was educated. She could speak the white man's tongue. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:07 | |
She was a very formidable person. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:09 | |
In fact, in our own way of speaking, | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
I always refer to her as a she-elephant, you know. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:18 | |
So let's put it this way - | 0:44:20 | 0:44:22 | |
the house that Dorothy built was in the heart of the market area, | 0:44:22 | 0:44:28 | |
you know, | 0:44:28 | 0:44:29 | |
and definitely, because she was one of the powerful women | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
controlling commerce in this city, | 0:44:32 | 0:44:36 | |
that's how formidable she was in the society. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
Can you tell me anything about Dorothy's parents, then? | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
I'd love to find out more about her lineage and her family. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
Dorothy was half black, right? | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
-Her maiden name was Lloyd. -Yes. -And so that's an English name. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:54 | |
It seems like those Englishmen really loved our women, didn't they? | 0:44:54 | 0:44:58 | |
So the mother, Sarah, right, was the wife to Lloyd. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:04 | |
Dorothy came from the small port town of Dixcove, | 0:45:05 | 0:45:09 | |
home to her mother, Reggie's great-great-grandmother, Sarah. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:13 | |
I'm slowly but surely | 0:45:16 | 0:45:17 | |
learning more about the next generation of the family. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:21 | |
Mm-hm. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:23 | |
-OK. -You've come home. -Thank you so much. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:26 | |
And you should always know that you are my son. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
And whenever you come to Sekondi, | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
know that you have the right to everything in here, OK? | 0:45:32 | 0:45:37 | |
-Not to my stool, though! -HE LAUGHS | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
Can I have some gold to leave with? HE LAUGHS | 0:45:39 | 0:45:42 | |
-I think we had better go! -Is that my birth right? | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
Thank you so much. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
I think Dorothy definitely is one of those characters | 0:45:53 | 0:45:55 | |
who has almost become a force of nature because she's had to be. | 0:45:55 | 0:46:01 | |
As a woman of such a young age, | 0:46:01 | 0:46:03 | |
it's amazing how successful my great-grandmother was | 0:46:03 | 0:46:06 | |
and how well she did on her own. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
There seems to be this direct relationship | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
between the British colonial history and my family - | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
the actions of the British people who came to Africa and left. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:22 | |
Reggie wants to know about | 0:46:27 | 0:46:28 | |
his great-grandmother Dorothy's British father. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:32 | |
He's meeting Carina Ray at the Sekondi Archives once more, | 0:46:32 | 0:46:36 | |
to see if there are any records of Mr Lloyd. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
-Hey. -Hey. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:42 | |
-Good to see you. -Nice to see you. I'll just put this away. -OK. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:46 | |
Let's...get to it. Right. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
So I should probably pull out this bad boy once again. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:53 | |
-Yeah, I recognise that. -Yes. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:55 | |
The affidavit of my grandfather, Harry Philip Yates. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
And here he talks about EJ Lloyd, | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
who is my great-great-grandfather, I believe. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:05 | |
-Is there any other information you've found? -Yes. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
There is, I believe, some information | 0:47:08 | 0:47:11 | |
about what could possibly be your great-great-grandfather. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
And as we understand it, | 0:47:14 | 0:47:16 | |
he was a commissioner in the Colonial Service. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
And in fact, we do have a file. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
However, it's for a Mr AG Lloyd, rather than an EJ Lloyd. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:26 | |
It would be possible in the context of oral history | 0:47:26 | 0:47:30 | |
to have the initials handed down and change over time, | 0:47:30 | 0:47:35 | |
and from EJ to AG, | 0:47:35 | 0:47:37 | |
one can see there's some kind of resonance there. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:41 | |
And this is his pension form. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
And I'm just going to give it to you, here. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
-This is the actual document? -This is the actual document. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
-You'll feel it brittle in your hands. -Yeah. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
And it indicates where he started his career | 0:47:51 | 0:47:55 | |
in the Colonial Service, and where he finished it. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
So if you look at here... | 0:47:58 | 0:47:59 | |
-Sierra Leone. -..his first post is in Sierra Leone. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
-And if you take a look... -Then to Nigeria | 0:48:02 | 0:48:04 | |
and then on to the Gold Coast, yeah. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:05 | |
We see his first appointment being in Sierra Leone. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:09 | |
And you'll note, here, that he begins his position in 1896. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:14 | |
Mm-hm. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:15 | |
And he concludes it in 1899. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:19 | |
We know that Dorothy was born in Dixcove in 1898, | 0:48:21 | 0:48:27 | |
or we believe she was born in 1898. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
So either we've got the wrong birth date for Dorothy, | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
perhaps she was born in 1900 and not in 1898, | 0:48:33 | 0:48:38 | |
which would place him in the Gold Coast to have met Sarah. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:44 | |
The other possibility is that | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
he travelled to the Gold Cost at some point. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:48 | |
What we do know is that this Lloyd that we have here | 0:48:48 | 0:48:52 | |
is the only Lloyd that is employed in the Gold Coast Colonial Service | 0:48:52 | 0:48:57 | |
during the time period that would be relevant to Dorothy's birth. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
-And that narrows it down, doesn't it? -It does, it does. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:03 | |
And if we go through the file, | 0:49:03 | 0:49:06 | |
you'll see here that AG Lloyd was in the Gold Coast | 0:49:06 | 0:49:10 | |
-as a travelling commissioner. -Mm. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
Commissioners of the Colonial Service, | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
like AG Lloyd, | 0:49:18 | 0:49:19 | |
were Britain's men on the ground in the Gold Coast. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
They travelled to meet chiefs to recruit workers for the mines. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:27 | |
They secured land for timber and farming, | 0:49:27 | 0:49:29 | |
built roads - | 0:49:29 | 0:49:30 | |
whatever it took to make the colony a profitable part of the Empire. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:35 | |
Lloyd would have learned the local languages | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
and mixed with the local people. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
So the description that is recounted in your family's oral history | 0:49:41 | 0:49:46 | |
matches not only his last name, | 0:49:46 | 0:49:50 | |
it also matches the position he held. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:52 | |
So there are some points that suggest that he... | 0:49:52 | 0:49:56 | |
-Heavily suggest. -..he could be the right man, yes. | 0:49:56 | 0:50:00 | |
Thank you so much once again. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
I think I have to go to Dixcove, then. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
Absolutely you do. Safe journey. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
Yeah, thank you. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:09 | |
Reggie's heading an hour's drive west | 0:50:13 | 0:50:15 | |
to the port of Dixcove, | 0:50:15 | 0:50:17 | |
where his great-great-grandmother Sarah was from. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:21 | |
He's hoping to learn more about her | 0:50:21 | 0:50:23 | |
and how her relationship with Mr Lloyd may have come about. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:27 | |
Elders from Sarah's extended family live here. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
Hello. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:44 | |
We are heading towards the head of the family's place. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
-I see. Hello. -Yeah. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:51 | |
HE CALLS OUT AND THEY RESPOND | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
Nana Kojo Mensah is the head of the family. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
Madam Ekubak knew Reggie's great-grandmother, Dorothy, | 0:51:01 | 0:51:05 | |
and has heard stories of Sarah. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
-Shall we sit? -Oh, yes! -Hello. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:12 | |
Thank you so much for finding time to meet us. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
So you know my dad? | 0:51:15 | 0:51:17 | |
You've met Jojo? | 0:51:17 | 0:51:20 | |
-They call your father Music Man. -Music man, yeah! | 0:51:25 | 0:51:27 | |
Yeah, he plays music. Yeah, a musician. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
My mouth is on fire! THEY LAUGH | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
It seems like you remember a lot about the family. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
You seem very happy to see me. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:31 | |
Thank you for pouring libation, I appreciate it. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
And thank you for having us in the house. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:36 | |
We've come here because I'm trying to find out | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
as much as I can about my family. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
I've got to a lady called Dorothy who was my great-grandmother. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
How about her mother? How about Sarah, my great-great-grandmother? | 0:52:44 | 0:52:48 | |
I was hoping that you might be able to tell me a bit about Sarah. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:52 | |
So Sarah was a trader? | 0:53:05 | 0:53:07 | |
-She worked in trading? -She was a trader. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:10 | |
Was she the first person in my line that mixed? | 0:53:10 | 0:53:14 | |
Typical African Ghanaian. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
And her father was a Ghanaian man? | 0:53:30 | 0:53:32 | |
Sarah, she doesn't have any... | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
-No mix in her family line? -..mix in her. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:37 | |
What was Sarah's surname? | 0:53:37 | 0:53:39 | |
Sarah Arku. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
The father's name's Arku, | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
so she was named Sarah Arku. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
So she was the first person that mixed with the English... | 0:53:46 | 0:53:48 | |
-First person, yes. -..and that's why Dorothy was so light? -That's right. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:52 | |
She was the first person to meet a white person. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:55 | |
So that's why you are fair. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
Do they know much about the man that she married, Lloyd? | 0:53:58 | 0:54:01 | |
-English man? -Yeah. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
She started a business, before she met Mr Lloyd. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:12 | |
Sarah was doing her own business before meeting Lloyd. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:17 | |
Maybe Lloyd wanted to buy some pineapples or something | 0:54:17 | 0:54:21 | |
-and they become friends and maybe they had that... -Yeah. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
..baby girl with Sarah. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:27 | |
When Lloyd came and met Sarah, | 0:54:27 | 0:54:29 | |
did you hear about a customary marriage? | 0:54:29 | 0:54:31 | |
In those days there wasn't any weddings. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:38 | |
He comes there and go. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:39 | |
Comes backwards and forwards. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:40 | |
-Yeah. -So they were together to create a child | 0:54:40 | 0:54:42 | |
but they weren't together in a relationship? He didn't stay? | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
-He left? -Yeah, he left. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:46 | |
Do they know if Dorothy was really similar to Sarah? | 0:54:48 | 0:54:51 | |
Was she like her mother? | 0:54:51 | 0:54:52 | |
OK, OK. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
They look alike. They look alike. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
Only Dorothy is more fair than the mother. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:05 | |
-So Dorothy and Sarah, they were close, right? -Yeah. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:08 | |
The mother and the daughter were together, | 0:55:08 | 0:55:12 | |
so they were very, very close. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
So they were like mother and daughter and business partners?! | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
Business partners, yes. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:19 | |
-OK. So they were really close? -They were really close. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
She was the only daughter to her. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
Only had one, yeah. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
That's her only daughter, | 0:55:28 | 0:55:29 | |
so just like steel and metal, you know? | 0:55:29 | 0:55:34 | |
-So they are like this. -Always together. Very close, OK. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:38 | |
Well, based on the closeness of Dorothy and Sarah, | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
that would make sense, | 0:55:41 | 0:55:43 | |
that he wasn't there and that it was Sarah raising Dorothy. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
Thank you so much. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
I'm not a drinker. | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
I never have been, but that Schnapps don't half burn your mouth! | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
Geez! Seriously, I think my chest is still warm now | 0:56:01 | 0:56:05 | |
and it definitely isn't the sun! | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
But beyond getting a teeny bit of alcohol, um, | 0:56:07 | 0:56:11 | |
I'm pretty sure I was sober enough to understand | 0:56:11 | 0:56:13 | |
that my great-great-grandmother, Sarah, and Mr Lloyd were a couple | 0:56:13 | 0:56:19 | |
but I don't think that Mr Lloyd | 0:56:19 | 0:56:22 | |
was a part of Sarah or Dorothy's life, unfortunately. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:26 | |
He essentially traded, in more ways than one, | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
with Sarah, | 0:56:29 | 0:56:30 | |
and my great-grandmother was a product of that. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:34 | |
But what came from that was an amazing relationship | 0:56:34 | 0:56:38 | |
between mother and daughter | 0:56:38 | 0:56:39 | |
and it produced two very strong women. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
It's an amazing feeling | 0:56:42 | 0:56:44 | |
to know exactly where that European bit of my lineage began. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:48 | |
My great-great-grandmother, Sarah, | 0:56:48 | 0:56:51 | |
was the first person to mix with a European | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
and it seems to be a recurring theme | 0:56:54 | 0:56:57 | |
throughout the generations. | 0:56:57 | 0:56:59 | |
And it really does explain this! | 0:56:59 | 0:57:03 | |
It explains this! | 0:57:03 | 0:57:05 | |
And I've sort of known but I've never really known, | 0:57:05 | 0:57:08 | |
and it's a great feeling to know for sure today. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
Coming out here on this trip | 0:57:15 | 0:57:18 | |
has made me feel connected, definitely, to my father more, | 0:57:18 | 0:57:21 | |
without a doubt. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:22 | |
My father's side is mixed as far back as we can trace, | 0:57:24 | 0:57:29 | |
and that mix, I think, has leant to the feeling of resilience | 0:57:29 | 0:57:35 | |
and...I wouldn't say abandonment | 0:57:35 | 0:57:37 | |
but I would say that there has BEEN abandonment. | 0:57:37 | 0:57:40 | |
Mr Lloyd and my great-grandfather, | 0:57:43 | 0:57:47 | |
George William Yates, left. | 0:57:47 | 0:57:50 | |
But my grandfather Harry stayed and looked after his children, | 0:57:50 | 0:57:55 | |
all 16 of them. | 0:57:55 | 0:57:57 | |
He was there for them. | 0:57:57 | 0:57:58 | |
Harry seems to have been an amazing man | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
that I wish I'd known, or at least met. | 0:58:03 | 0:58:05 | |
But in the UK, | 0:58:07 | 0:58:08 | |
myself and my siblings and my cousins | 0:58:08 | 0:58:12 | |
have over the last years made an effort | 0:58:12 | 0:58:14 | |
to get together | 0:58:14 | 0:58:16 | |
and to build relationships and build bridges. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:19 | |
And it's starting to feel more and more that we are a family. | 0:58:19 | 0:58:22 | |
I feel like I'm part of something. | 0:58:24 | 0:58:26 | |
And being here and learning about our history | 0:58:26 | 0:58:29 | |
has made that even more real. | 0:58:29 | 0:58:31 |