Reggie Yates Who Do You Think You Are?


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Growing up in London, you sort of get asked all the time

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where you're from because there are so many immigrants.

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I know very little about my family.

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Both my mother and father were born in Ghana

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and my father's mixed race and that's about as far as it goes.

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You know, I know that there is a European part to my history,

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hence my complexion, but beyond that, I don't really know much more.

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Reggie Yates was born in London in 1983.

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He has an older sister, Cerise,

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and half-siblings from his parents' later marriages.

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As an actor, DJ and TV presenter,

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Reggie has clocked up 23 years in radio and television - he's only 31.

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Relationships and marriage are very much in the front of my mind now

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and in Ghanaian culture there's this whole thing of a knocking,

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where my family turn up at the family of my partner

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and literally knock on the door and say,

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"Hi, we're the people that are taking your daughter."

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And as I've been with my girlfriend for two years, my mum has literally

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started knocking on my door going, "When are we going to knock on hers?"

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I was raised almost entirely by my mother.

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My mother and biological father broke up

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when I was about four years old

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and, er, my mum remarried when I was around 11.

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I know a heck of a lot about my mother's side

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because I grew up with that side of the family,

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but when it comes to my dad's side, I know not a lot.

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My father has been a very small part of my adult life.

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It sounds really ridiculous and actually kind of sad,

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but I've never met my grandparents.

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I don't know whether they're alive, I don't know where they live -

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they could live in the next street.

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I know nothing.

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The logical starting point for me is with my dad.

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His family history - well, I say "his", it's mine too -

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that family history is something that I want to investigate.

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My father and I share the same name.

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He's Reginald Yates, but his full name is Reginald Jojo Yates.

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He goes by Jojo.

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Reggie's parents split up when he was four

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and he's seen his father just a handful of times.

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My father's an incredibly talented musician

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which I think on some level has informed a lot of my passions.

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Reggie and his dad are meeting up in north London.

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Jojo Yates makes traditional West African instruments.

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Hello, hello.

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Oh, yeah. Wow, wow, wow.

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-How's it going?

-Very well.

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You OK? Good to see you. Looking good.

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Good to see you, son. Wonderful.

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-Looking good.

-Thank you.

-You all right?

-Yes, yes.

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Wow! So what is that that you were playing?

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This is sepriwa, originated from Ghana

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and it is an instrument that I made here.

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Is that guitar strings on it?

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No, no, no, these are fishing lines.

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Went to the fishing line shop and got these.

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-Wow!

-Yeah.

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HE PLAYS SEPRIWA

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That's how it sounds.

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Yeah, it's beautiful.

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OK. So that's sepriwa.

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I don't remember very much and one of the things

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that Mum told me about -

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is kind of hazy because she told me when I was so young -

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was something to do with you and immigration

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and you being here in the UK

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and it becoming quite a big deal

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when the government tried to send you back to Ghana.

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So when I got here with your mum and Cerise came...

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Yeah, that's my big sister.

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..and I was arrested for overstaying in the country.

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That's when the immigration problem started.

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I remember vaguely that Mum said

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there was a "Save Reggie Yates" campaign.

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Yes. I've got some...a clip of that.

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What's this magazine? What's this?

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This is City Limits. April 16th, 1982.

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That's the year before I was born.

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You guys look so young.

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You're only 26. Ah, look at that afro!

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"This week, Reggie Yates is waiting in his King's Cross home

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"to find out whether or not he is to be removed to Ghana.

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"Although he is only one of many facing deportation, his case,

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"and the reasons given

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"for refusing him permission to stay, is remarkable.

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"Yates was born in Ghana 26 years ago but his grandfather was English."

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Jojo was born in 1956, a year before Ghanaian Independence,

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in what was then the British colony of the Gold Coast.

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He would only be allowed to stay in the UK

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if he could prove that he had British heritage.

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It says here your grandfather was English, was your dad not English?

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No. My dad was born in Ghana.

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-OK.

-Yeah. With an English father.

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-Have you got a picture of him?

-Yeah, I have.

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There you go. Harry Philip Yates.

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Your grandfather.

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-Wow!

-Yeah.

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-That's the first time I've ever seen...

-Yeah?

-..seen him.

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He looks like he's got quite light eyes. And my mother always said,

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"Oh, yeah, your grandad had blond hair and blue eyes," and I never...

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-Yeah. She saw him.

-Yeah? Wow.

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And he stayed in the house in King's Cross, yeah.

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-Really?

-Yeah.

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-He's a handsome man.

-Yeah.

-He looks like a bit of a heartbreaker.

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-The ladies must have loved him.

-Oh, yeah. Oh, yes.

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-Yeah?

-Oh, yes.

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So your father, er, was of mixed race?

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Yes.

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Jojo's father, Harry Yates, was born in the Gold Coast.

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His father was English and his mother was a local woman.

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They had a customary marriage -

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a wedding ceremony recognised as legitimate, by Ghanaian law.

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Their son Harry visited the UK during Jojo's immigration battle

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to stand up for Jojo in court.

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My father stood up and said, "Look at me. Look at the mix."

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"The chairman of the tribunal,

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"a former colonial servant, made it clear in his adjudication

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"what he thought of Yates' grandfather.

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"'I find it extremely unlikely that Yates' grandfather believed

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"'that he was entering into a valid marriage with Yates' grandmother.'"

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Wow!

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"He went on to say he could not believe that Yates' grandmother

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thought it was a valid marriage if she gave it any thought at all."

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-This is unbelievable!

-Yeah.

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So this man was saying this in the court at the time.

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In court, yes.

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Wow! And did anybody... Was anybody offended by it?

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-Did anybody speak?

-I was very offended.

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That time too, customary marriages were very taken very seriously.

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The chairman of the tribunal ruled that

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Jojo's grandparents' customary marriage was invalid

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and therefore Jojo's father, Harry, was illegitimate,

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and his British heritage was not recognised by law.

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Well, that's shocking.

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-In the end they granted me...

-A stay.

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..a stay in the country because I was married to...

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Your mother was a British citizen, so I was granted a stay here.

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Jojo was finally granted leave to stay

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after his wife became a British citizen.

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Jojo has more pictures of his father, Harry,

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taken when Harry was a much older man.

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-Huh! Oh, is that him? There he is.

-Yeah, there's him there.

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And where am I?

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That's you there?

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-There.

-There you are.

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THEY LAUGH Look at that.

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You even had a 'tache then!

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Was you born with a moustache? You've got one there.

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I was young, but I was just growing it.

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So your dad in this photo

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-seems like every bit the proud African father...

-Exactly.

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..sat with his wife and his huge family.

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But he does look like he is of mixed race,

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-but he looks more white than he does black in this picture.

-Yes.

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-And this is my...

-Your mother.

-..my mother, yeah. Diana Yates.

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Yeah, there's another one, when he came here.

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Your grandfather.

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His face is brilliant! It's such a cheeky face.

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-Yeah.

-He looks like a bit of a character.

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Hearing you talk about your dad,

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my grandfather, in past tense says to me that he passed away.

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Yeah, he passed away.

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Um, he passed away 19... 2000, the year 2000,

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and he passed away in his sleep with his wife lying next to him.

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-Wow.

-Yeah.

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That's really sad.

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Yeah. Mm-hm.

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Is my grandmother still alive?

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She died as well.

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-So she passed away...

-She passed away.

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-..shortly after he did?

-Not too long, yeah.

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Of all of Harry's children, only an adopted son, JB,

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still lives in their home in Ghana.

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You have to see JB when you go to Ghana.

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-Who's JB?

-My father adopted him, so he grew up with us.

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-Right.

-He spent all his life with us.

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-Right.

-And when we all came here,

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he spent the rest of my father's life with him.

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So he spent all the time. He knows everything about us.

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I'm really excited about getting out there now. Thank you.

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You will enjoy it.

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There is a level of sadness on my part

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because I wish I'd known, or at least met, my grandfather Harry,

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and it's sad that I don't know him

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and I don't have any memories of my own about that man.

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Reggie's flying to Ghana, where he hopes to find out more

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about his grandfather Harry and his background.

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As I'm getting older,

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I'm understanding the importance of family

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and, you know, at some point I hope to be a father,

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and regardless of my relationship with my dad,

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I think it's incredibly important that my children have

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a relationship with their grandfather.

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And I want them to be able to know who their family are

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and know what their history is.

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From the capital, Accra, Reggie's heading west along the coast

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to the city of Sekondi, where his father was born and raised.

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Reggie's brought with him a file of memorabilia from his father.

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It's really strange for me

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because I don't know much about this side of the family but...

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suddenly I feel that I'm one of many, which is a really nice feeling.

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My grandfather looks awesome.

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I wish I knew more about this guy.

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Along with photos, the file contains documents his grandfather, Harry,

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gave to Jojo to help him with his immigration battle.

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Oh, wow!

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"In the High Court of Ghana, Western Region, Sekondi."

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This is an affidavit. This is the actual thing.

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This isn't a copy, is it? Wow!

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This affidavit is actually signed by my grandfather,

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Harry Philip Yates.

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"I, Harry Philip Yates,

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"of House Number 43/9 Fifth Street, Sekondi, Ghana,

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"make oath and say as follows...

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"One, that I am the father of Reginald Yates

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"of 82 St John's Avenue, London, NW10."

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It would appear that this document is him swearing that he is

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the father of my father,

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and that he is of English descent.

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I didn't even know my great-grandfather's name.

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George Edward Yates.

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Doesn't get more English than that, does it?

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"Employed at the Broomasi Mines, now defunct, as paymaster."

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At point six it says,

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"That my mother was Mrs Dorothy Vardon,

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"that her maiden name was Dorothy Lloyd.

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"And my mother's father was EJ Lloyd, born in England."

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No way. That makes my great-grandmother mixed race.

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You know, you sort of have in your head that there are

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these mixed race relationships in the family,

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but it seems that it's not just from one generation,

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it's from two, and potentially even more than that.

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So the mix in my family started a long time ago,

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much earlier than I thought.

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Reggie's grandfather, Harry Yates,

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swore that his British ancestry came from his father, George Yates,

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an Englishman working for a mining company in the Gold Coast.

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And Harry swore that his mother, Dorothy,

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also had a British father whose surname was Lloyd.

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Well, off the back of this document

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it makes sense that I follow my dad's advice and head to Sekondi

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where I'm going to meet this guy, JB,

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who knows a hell of a lot about my family,

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and hopefully he's at this address.

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In the 100 years before Ghanaian independence in 1957,

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the city of Sekondi was a strategic commercial port

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at the heart of the British colony.

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British and other European businesses

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established headquarters in Sekondi.

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And the European men they employed arrived here

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before journeying on to gold mines, timber, palm and cocoa plantations.

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In the early years of the 20th century,

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a new railway came to Sekondi,

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making its marketplace one of the busiest in the region.

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It became a cosmopolitan city

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with a local elite of mixed European and African heritage.

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Sekondi's hilltop became known as European Town.

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Reggie's family's house is down the hill

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in the heart of the Central Market district.

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Hello. Are you JB?

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I'm JB. And that's Reggie! That's my boy!

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-How you doing?

-All right, brother!

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-How you doing? You all right?

-All right. I'm good.

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Hello, good to meet you. Good to meet you.

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-Nice to meet you too, yes.

-I'm Dora.

-Hello. Nice to meet you.

-Your auntie.

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Hello. Wow! Oh, wow. OK.

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I can't believe it! You're welcome.

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Yes. It's good to be here. Shall we go inside?

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Come on, let's go home. Let's go home.

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-Hello, how you doing?

-Yeah, all right.

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-I look like my dad?

-Yes, you look like him.

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Really?

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Yeah, just a little more Twi than Fante.

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-Kitte, kitte.

-Kitte, kitte.

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Come on, come on, come in, come on.

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Oh, my God!

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With JB is Dora Adolphus,

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a distant relative who also grew up in this house.

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Come in.

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Thank you so much for having us. Thank you.

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Oh, great.

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Reggie!

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My dad has told me that you are the guy to speak to.

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Heard about you too.

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This house has been in the family for a long time?

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Oh, since 1928.

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First of all, you were welcomed into the Yates family.

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Yeah. The only word I think I can use is adoption.

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-Adoption, yeah.

-Yeah.

-Wow.

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So you've been living with the Yates family,

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and namely my grandfather, Harry, for how long?

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Er, became attached with the family when I was about,

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um, 19, 20 years, and now I'm 58.

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I was the only dark guy among the guys,

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so people call me the black Yates, you know what I mean?

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I grew up with most of the children.

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So from head to toe, I know everything about the Yates.

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So what can you tell me about my grandfather?

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Your grandfather is a very, very industrious man.

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-Right.

-Very hard working person.

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What did he do? Where did he work?

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Your grandfather, hmm, that's the jack-of-all-trade.

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-The old man was a timber merchant.

-Timber merchant.

-Timber.

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Harry Yates worked in various businesses -

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selling timber and in the sugar industry.

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Then he became a farmer.

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What do you remember about my, my grandfather?

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-He'd fix it. So he'd fix everything?

-Everything.

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So for a man that looked like this, he must have stood out,

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-everybody must have known him, I imagine.

-Yes, yes.

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Was he quite well known in Sekondi?

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Anywhere that he goes people call him "obruni",

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that means white man.

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Obruni, yeah, yeah.

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The term "obruni" is used to refer to white Europeans.

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Did everybody see him as Ghanaian

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or did people see him as an Englishman?

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Initially, those, you know, the local people around, you know,

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they see him as a white man,

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but he doesn't want anybody to call him a white man.

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Right.

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And the person I don't know much about is my grandmother,

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so, his wife.

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-Would you like to see a picture of her?

-Yeah, please.

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Yeah, your grandmother, Mrs Diana Yates.

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Let me see.

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-Wow!

-That's it.

-That's Diana.

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Your grandmother, Diana.

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So how did my grandfather Harry and my grandmother Diana get together?

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Actually, it's an amazing story.

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Your grandfather, on his way going to work, he saw your grandmother,

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a sewing machine on the head, you know, it was...

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-A sewing machine?

-Yeah, a sewing machine. She was a seamstress.

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According to Diana's sister, say,

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"Obruni white man, what do you want from me?"

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And he said, "Well don't worry, you, let's get to your family house.

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"When we get there, I will let you know what I want from you."

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So he follow her to the house

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and tell the parents that he wanted to marry this woman.

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Just imagine.

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There's a lot of Yates boys, isn't there?

0:18:550:18:57

-A lot.

-How many children did my grandfather have?

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He had 14.

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-16.

-16, rather, yeah.

0:19:030:19:05

16? Which one? Pick one. Which one was it?

0:19:050:19:08

16!

0:19:080:19:09

Your grandfather actually had ten solid children with Diana.

0:19:090:19:15

Wow, she gave him ten? That's incredible.

0:19:150:19:17

Ten. That is two girls and eight boys.

0:19:170:19:20

Right. Wow! So 16 children with how many women?

0:19:200:19:23

About five women. 16 solid children.

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When your grandfather was alive they come here.

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They were all here. They were all together.

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And that's your great-grandmother.

0:19:370:19:39

-Wow!

-Dorothy.

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So this is my grandfather, Harry Philip, this is his mother?

0:19:420:19:45

-Yes.

-And she is as fair as he was.

-Yeah.

0:19:450:19:49

And her surname was Vardon?

0:19:500:19:52

Yes.

0:19:520:19:53

So why didn't she take the Yates name?

0:19:530:19:55

Initially, she was Yates.

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And then after your great-grandfather departed,

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she got married to the Vardon.

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That's why later became...

0:20:030:20:05

OK. So her second husband was Vardon. I see. OK.

0:20:050:20:08

Reggie's great-grandmother, Dorothy,

0:20:110:20:14

made her living as a market trader.

0:20:140:20:16

Women dominated the marketplaces of the Gold Coast.

0:20:180:20:21

Wives of fishermen sold the daily catch,

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and those from the countryside brought produce to urban markets.

0:20:240:20:28

Dorothy built a successful business

0:20:330:20:36

supplying provisions to commercial ships and became wealthy enough

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to maintain the house Reggie's visiting.

0:20:410:20:43

What can you tell me about this picture of my great-grandmother?

0:20:470:20:50

Where was this actually taken?

0:20:500:20:52

-This very picture?

-Yeah.

-On this very step. This very house.

0:20:520:20:55

-Just here?

-Just here.

0:20:550:20:56

-Can we see?

-Yeah.

0:20:560:20:58

That is there. That's exactly it.

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So, right here. Just here.

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-It's coming right here.

-Yeah.

0:21:060:21:08

What was she like, then? Do you remember her?

0:21:120:21:14

Mama, that what everybody calls her, Mama tall and fat.

0:21:140:21:18

Mama is a very lovely woman, big character.

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That's it - big character, you know, yeah.

0:21:210:21:24

As a young woman, before she came to Sekondi,

0:21:290:21:32

Dorothy gave birth to her son, Harry,

0:21:320:21:34

in the gold mining settlement of Broomasi.

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Harry's English father, George Yates,

0:21:390:21:42

was working there as an accountant for a British mining company.

0:21:420:21:45

So when my grandfather was a baby in Broomasi,

0:21:490:21:52

I know that he was obviously brought up by his mother, Dorothy,

0:21:520:21:55

but was he living with his dad, George?

0:21:550:21:57

-Yeah. When George had that malaria or fever...

-So he got ill?

0:21:570:22:01

Yeah, he got ill, so he have to go back

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and wanted to take Harry along with him.

0:22:030:22:05

He wanted to take my grandfather Harry with him?

0:22:050:22:08

-Yes.

-When my grandfather was a young boy or...?

0:22:080:22:11

Yes, very, very young.

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But Dorothy had only Harry, so you know,

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they're wondering what about if they take my boy away,

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you know, what's going to happen?

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So they decided Harry should stay.

0:22:220:22:24

If you really want to come back, leave Harry, go and come back.

0:22:240:22:28

-That's why Harry...

-Stayed here.

-..stayed here.

0:22:280:22:31

While in the Gold Coast, Reggie's great-grandfather,

0:22:330:22:36

George Yates, became so ill he had to return to England.

0:22:360:22:41

I've got a story that Auntie Dora's grandmother told me.

0:22:410:22:45

-Right.

-Your great-grandfather left a lot of money.

0:22:450:22:49

He left gold dust to be taking care of your grandfather.

0:22:490:22:53

-Yeah.

-You understand?

0:22:530:22:55

So your great-grandfather left a lot of money.

0:22:550:22:58

-And did he ever come back?

-Never.

0:22:580:23:01

-Wow!

-So nobody knows what happened to him.

0:23:010:23:04

George Yates came to the Gold Coast

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to work as an accountant for a British gold mining company.

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Britain's largest supply of gold came from South Africa.

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But in the late 19th century

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there was a push to make mining in the Gold Coast more productive.

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This brought men like George Yates to the colony,

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where they sometimes formed ties with local women.

0:23:340:23:38

I had no idea that my great-grandfather was not only

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an Englishman that came to Ghana and had a child, but left that child.

0:23:500:23:55

Because, you know, I've been estranged from my father

0:23:550:23:57

for so many years and whether I like it or not,

0:23:570:24:00

the things that make him him have almost defined me,

0:24:000:24:04

even though we've not been together for such a long period of time.

0:24:040:24:08

There's definitely parallels there.

0:24:080:24:11

So, I'm desperate to know more about George Edward Yates now

0:24:110:24:14

and why he never came back and what happened to him.

0:24:140:24:17

And also, the influence that might have had on Harry.

0:24:170:24:21

-Hello.

-Hi.

0:24:220:24:23

Hey. How you doing, Carina?

0:24:230:24:25

Fantastic. Nice to meet you, Reggie.

0:24:250:24:27

-Shall we head in?

-Yeah, let's go to the reading room.

0:24:270:24:29

Historian, Carina Ray, is an expert on the Gold Coast colony.

0:24:290:24:35

She's been looking into Reggie's great-grandfather, George Yates.

0:24:350:24:39

The history of the mixing in my family

0:24:400:24:43

is the thing that I'm super interested in.

0:24:430:24:46

This is an affidavit by Harry Philip Yates

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and it says that his father, George Edward Yates,

0:24:480:24:51

was born of London, England in about 1870 to English parents.

0:24:510:24:55

So he is an Englishman, a white man, who's found himself here in Ghana.

0:24:550:25:00

I have a number of passenger lists that allow us to see him

0:25:000:25:04

travelling between Britain and Africa.

0:25:040:25:07

Let's have a look together.

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The first record Carina's found is for travel to South Africa.

0:25:090:25:14

So this is from 1902.

0:25:140:25:16

Although it just says "Cape,"

0:25:160:25:18

we know that they're in Cape Town, South Africa.

0:25:180:25:20

Right. OK.

0:25:200:25:24

Here are the names of the passengers

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and I think you'll see a name that looks familiar there.

0:25:270:25:30

Yates, there we go. Yeah.

0:25:300:25:32

Yates... Is that an M?

0:25:320:25:35

-It's a W.

-W?

-Yes.

-OK.

0:25:350:25:38

You're right, it's GW Yates.

0:25:380:25:39

-In your affidavit we have...

-George Edward.

0:25:390:25:41

-..George Edward Yates.

-Mm.

0:25:410:25:44

We can track a GW, or a George William Yates,

0:25:440:25:48

from South Africa to Sekondi, going back and forth.

0:25:480:25:52

There is no George Edward Yates,

0:25:520:25:54

so we believe that the affidavit is incorrect.

0:25:540:25:58

Is incorrect. OK.

0:25:580:25:59

So this George W Yates was him

0:25:590:26:02

and he was George W as opposed to George E?

0:26:020:26:05

Yeah, so... Exactly.

0:26:050:26:07

Does that say that he's married?

0:26:070:26:09

Yes.

0:26:090:26:10

So he was married in England before he came to Ghana?

0:26:100:26:13

Yes. So in 1902 he's married

0:26:130:26:15

and he appears to be travelling with his wife.

0:26:150:26:19

-Wow!

-And, er, there's something else below.

0:26:190:26:22

That's not children, is it?

0:26:240:26:25

Yes.

0:26:250:26:27

-Oh, my God! OK.

-They have a one-year-old son.

0:26:270:26:30

Let's have a look at the next one.

0:26:300:26:33

It shows us your great-grandfather

0:26:330:26:37

travelling in April, 1907 to Sekondi.

0:26:370:26:42

The important thing about this particular document

0:26:420:26:44

is that it shows him arriving by himself in the Gold Coast.

0:26:440:26:48

George Yates followed the typical pattern

0:26:520:26:55

for British men working in the gold mining industry.

0:26:550:26:58

Wives and children often went to South Africa

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but not to the Gold Coast.

0:27:010:27:03

The danger from malaria and tropical diseases

0:27:030:27:06

earned it the nickname "white man's grave".

0:27:060:27:10

So, most British men travelled here alone.

0:27:100:27:13

Would it be fair to say that

0:27:150:27:17

it was almost expected of, sort of, Englishmen to find a new wife

0:27:170:27:21

when they came to West Africa for long periods of time?

0:27:210:27:24

Yeah. For sure, it was not uncommon for European men

0:27:240:27:28

to have relationships with African women in the colony.

0:27:280:27:32

This had been, you know, a very long tradition.

0:27:320:27:37

George and his British colleagues

0:27:380:27:40

were contracted for long stints in the colony

0:27:400:27:42

interspersed with visits to their families at home.

0:27:420:27:46

Carina has tracked George Yates in England as well.

0:27:460:27:50

Let's have a look at a census from 1911.

0:27:540:27:59

George William Yates, Ethel Rose Yates. So what's this?

0:27:590:28:03

This shows the family in Middlesex.

0:28:030:28:06

Wow. So you've not only got my great-grandfather,

0:28:060:28:08

George William Yates,

0:28:080:28:11

but his wife, Ethel Rose,

0:28:110:28:14

and he's got children, he's got two sons and two daughters,

0:28:140:28:18

William, Rose, Douglas and another Ethel,

0:28:180:28:22

Ethel Jr, look at that.

0:28:220:28:24

This allows us to know

0:28:250:28:26

that even after he resettled his family back in England

0:28:260:28:30

and came to Sekondi,

0:28:300:28:32

that he continued to go back and forth

0:28:320:28:34

between the Gold Coast and Middlesex

0:28:340:28:37

and continued to have children with his white wife.

0:28:370:28:41

So would this be the complete family in the UK?

0:28:410:28:44

No. There's more to come.

0:28:440:28:46

Oh, my God! What is wrong with these Yates men?!

0:28:460:28:49

They just can't stop.

0:28:490:28:50

-Prolific!

-Yeah.

0:28:500:28:52

I think if we look at the affidavit

0:28:520:28:55

we see that your grandfather, Harry,

0:28:550:29:00

was born in Broomasi on November 15th, 1915.

0:29:000:29:05

Yeah.

0:29:050:29:07

So what I want to show you is an excerpt from the Gold Coast Leader.

0:29:070:29:12

It's in very fine print, so I'll just point it out to you.

0:29:120:29:15

"Our good Paymaster Yates

0:29:150:29:17

"was among those on the sick list last week.

0:29:170:29:20

"Mr George W Yates, our chief accountant here,

0:29:200:29:24

"is to leave for England on the 13th of next month."

0:29:240:29:27

So this is June, 1915,

0:29:270:29:32

and so he leaves in July, 1915.

0:29:320:29:36

Yeah. With the imminent birth of his son.

0:29:360:29:39

-Right.

-It's funny he got sick around that time, isn't it?

0:29:390:29:41

Well, you might be surprised to see something.

0:29:410:29:44

Let's look at this.

0:29:440:29:46

OK. "September, 1915." This is him arriving in Liverpool.

0:29:460:29:49

-No.

-Is this not him?

0:29:490:29:50

-This is him leaving Liverpool...

-Leaving Liverpool, OK.

0:29:500:29:52

..going to West Africa.

0:29:520:29:54

Right. So he's come back?

0:29:540:29:56

-He comes back before his son is born.

-Right.

0:29:560:29:59

So, you're right that he fell ill and he left during the pregnancy...

0:29:590:30:04

-It was almost a little too convenient.

-Right.

0:30:040:30:06

But I think that puts a little bit of a different spin

0:30:060:30:08

-on the idea that...

-Slightly.

-..he would have been a man

0:30:080:30:11

who impregnated a woman and then left.

0:30:110:30:14

It says to me that he intended to be in the Gold Coast

0:30:140:30:18

when his son was born.

0:30:180:30:20

Reggie has heard that George got ill again

0:30:200:30:23

when his son Harry was very young

0:30:230:30:25

and left the Gold Coast, never to return.

0:30:250:30:28

He also, according to the history, again from JB,

0:30:280:30:32

he left Dorothy with some gold dust to look after herself

0:30:320:30:34

and to look after her son.

0:30:340:30:36

So...it's quite tough for me.

0:30:360:30:39

I'm kind of torn as to... as to his motives.

0:30:390:30:42

What I see is an itinerant father,

0:30:420:30:46

not just to Harry,

0:30:460:30:48

-but to all of his children.

-Yeah.

0:30:480:30:50

And it was the nature of the work that he was engaged in.

0:30:500:30:54

You know, that the mining industry was a global industry

0:30:540:30:58

and men had to go where they could get a lucrative contract.

0:30:580:31:02

But I think that we can say that for the time that he was here

0:31:020:31:07

he had a meaningful relationship with Dorothy, cared for her

0:31:070:31:11

and he cared for his son.

0:31:110:31:13

After he leaves the Gold Coast,

0:31:130:31:16

he doesn't settle permanently in England,

0:31:160:31:19

he actually takes a position in Nigeria.

0:31:190:31:23

He doesn't start another family in Nigeria, does he?

0:31:240:31:26

-Not that we know of!

-THEY LAUGH

0:31:260:31:29

And Nigeria wasn't his last stop in his mining career.

0:31:290:31:35

Is that him?

0:31:350:31:36

-"Death of Mr GW Yates." That's him!

-Yes, that is your great-grandfather.

0:31:360:31:40

Wow!

0:31:420:31:43

He leaves the Gold Coast in 1917

0:31:520:31:55

-and he dies in 1925.

-Shortly after. Yeah, 1925.

0:31:550:31:59

"The news of the death of Mr George William Yates, aged 44."

0:31:590:32:04

Wow! "The greater part of the past 18 years

0:32:040:32:07

"he spent abroad fulfilling appointments with gold,

0:32:070:32:10

"silver, platinum and tin mining companies, first in South Africa,

0:32:100:32:14

"then the Gold Coast, Nigeria and Colombia, South America."

0:32:140:32:17

Wow! This is a massively well-travelled man.

0:32:170:32:21

-Yes.

-He's been... "While in New York..." Wow!

0:32:210:32:24

"..on his journey home,

0:32:240:32:25

"he contracted a chill which was followed by pneumonia.

0:32:250:32:28

"He reached England and passed away on December 22nd."

0:32:280:32:31

Wow!

0:32:330:32:35

That's a lot to take in. That's...

0:32:350:32:37

That's crazy, I now know what he looks like.

0:32:390:32:42

-What did you imagine he looked like?

-I don't know.

0:32:420:32:45

I genuinely had absolutely nothing in my head with, um,

0:32:450:32:48

my grandfather Harry being so racially ambiguous, you know.

0:32:480:32:52

In some photos he looks quite mixed race

0:32:520:32:53

and in other photos he looks very European.

0:32:530:32:55

So if we put them together...

0:32:550:32:57

Wow!

0:33:000:33:01

-Yeah, he's definitely his father's son, isn't he?

-Yeah.

0:33:030:33:07

Sort of squinty little eyes!

0:33:070:33:09

Some might say that's carried on through the family.

0:33:090:33:13

Wow!

0:33:130:33:14

Where do you think that left Harry,

0:33:160:33:18

being here in Ghana without a connection to his father

0:33:180:33:21

and his father's lineage?

0:33:210:33:22

I think Harry was absorbed into his mother's family.

0:33:220:33:26

The parallels in this story between Harry and myself are...

0:33:270:33:32

a little scary because that's essentially what's happened to me in the UK, you know.

0:33:320:33:36

My relationship with my father is distant.

0:33:360:33:38

I know that at quite a young age I felt, not abandoned,

0:33:380:33:41

but I felt that there wasn't a connection to my father's side

0:33:410:33:45

and that history of European men.

0:33:450:33:48

-That's just so fascinating to me.

-Yeah.

0:33:480:33:50

It's even more fascinating to me because it's my family!

0:33:500:33:53

Yeah! Yeah, yeah, of course.

0:33:530:33:55

And there's so much more to this story than I thought.

0:33:550:33:58

-It's incredible. Thank you.

-Yeah.

0:33:590:34:01

-Thank you very much.

-It's a pleasure.

0:34:010:34:04

George Yates is someone I was a little undecided on

0:34:070:34:10

because on face value it's a wealthy white man

0:34:100:34:15

who's come to an African country, with a family at home,

0:34:150:34:19

and started another family, then he's gone.

0:34:190:34:22

But the intricacies of that story

0:34:260:34:28

say a lot more about him as a man.

0:34:280:34:31

I don't agree with having

0:34:320:34:33

a couple of families that don't know about each other,

0:34:330:34:37

but I think the fact that he wanted to take Harry back to the UK

0:34:370:34:42

throws into question what his priorities were,

0:34:420:34:45

how much he loved his son.

0:34:450:34:47

So my feelings on my great-grandfather have changed.

0:34:480:34:51

By 1917, George Yates had left Reggie's great-grandmother, Dorothy.

0:34:570:35:02

Their son Harry was just two years old.

0:35:020:35:06

To find out what happened to Dorothy and Harry,

0:35:060:35:08

Reggie's on his way to have an audience with a local chief.

0:35:080:35:12

Ghana's traditional hereditary rulers

0:35:160:35:18

still play a significant role in Ghanaian culture,

0:35:180:35:21

not least as keepers of their community's oral history.

0:35:210:35:25

Reggie's meeting a chief of the highest rank -

0:35:290:35:32

Paramount Chief Nana Kwabena Nketsia.

0:35:320:35:35

JB will make the formal introductions.

0:35:360:35:39

And look at JB, he looks amazing!

0:35:400:35:42

-JB!

-Yes, sir.

-How you doing?

-All right, bro.

-You OK?

0:35:420:35:46

-Yes.

-Good to see you.

0:35:460:35:48

Nice to see you, too. Nice to see you.

0:35:480:35:50

So is he... Is Nana Nketsia ready?

0:35:500:35:52

-Yeah, we're going to give him...

-Right.

0:35:520:35:55

Also in attendance are Nana Nketsia's mother

0:36:040:36:08

and another elder.

0:36:080:36:09

They must speak first through the chief's spokesperson.

0:36:190:36:22

Thank you. Thank you first of all for, er...

0:38:110:38:13

MAN SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY OK. OK.

0:38:130:38:16

Thank you for...for finding the time to speak to me.

0:38:170:38:21

Um, and thank you, JB, for bringing me, as well.

0:38:210:38:23

Having an audience with you is really important to me

0:38:230:38:27

because I'm trying to find out as much as I can about my... What's that?

0:38:270:38:30

MURMURING Oh, of course.

0:38:300:38:33

In a chief's court in Ghana,

0:38:330:38:35

it's considered disrespectful to gesticulate

0:38:350:38:37

or to give or take with the left hand.

0:38:370:38:40

You see an African with that English head.

0:38:410:38:45

And much as you are African,

0:38:470:38:49

as soon as you stood up, your mannerisms -

0:38:490:38:53

throwing your left hand around -

0:38:530:38:55

I understood that...

0:38:550:38:57

I was wondering which side of the divide you belong to.

0:38:570:39:00

So the little things that we are showing you

0:39:010:39:04

are to do with basically our culture and the way we do things here.

0:39:040:39:09

HE CHUCKLES I'm learning as I go,

0:39:090:39:12

so forgive me if I make mistakes.

0:39:120:39:14

I'm trying to find out as much as I can about my family

0:39:140:39:16

and in particular, my great-grandmother Dorothy

0:39:160:39:19

and my grandfather Harry, Harry Philip Yates.

0:39:190:39:22

I know very little and from the time that I've been in Ghana

0:39:220:39:25

I've learnt a small amount,

0:39:250:39:27

and I was hoping maybe you could add to that.

0:39:270:39:29

OK.

0:39:310:39:32

When I learnt that you were coming here

0:39:320:39:35

and belonged to the Yates family...

0:39:350:39:38

The name Yates, it's a Sekondi name.

0:39:380:39:41

Most of us have even forgotten that Yates is an English name.

0:39:410:39:46

We say Obruni Yates. That's "the white man Yates".

0:39:460:39:50

He was more African than we could ever think about.

0:39:500:39:53

You used to see Obruni Yates sitting there and he was always smiling.

0:39:530:39:58

You have a very wonderful family and I think that, um,

0:39:580:40:02

there's one thing about we Africans, and that is the ancestors.

0:40:020:40:06

You know, they live in us.

0:40:060:40:07

Can I ask about my great-grandmother, Dorothy?

0:40:070:40:11

A very interesting woman.

0:40:120:40:14

Dorothy came from another place west of here,

0:40:140:40:20

called Dixcove,

0:40:200:40:21

with her mother, called Sarah.

0:40:210:40:24

But they moved to...to Tarkwa.

0:40:240:40:27

As a young woman,

0:40:290:40:31

Reggie's great-grandmother Dorothy moved from her home at Dixcove

0:40:310:40:36

to a boom town called Tarkwa.

0:40:360:40:38

Tarkwa was linked to Sekondi by a railway line

0:40:380:40:42

that took men north to the gold mines, including Broomasi,

0:40:420:40:46

where Reggie's great-grandfather, George Yates, worked.

0:40:460:40:49

Tarkwa was the first major stop from Sekondi from the coast.

0:40:510:40:56

That's where your great-grandfather, I believe,

0:40:560:40:59

saw Dorothy and married her.

0:40:590:41:01

Dorothy was married to George W Yates

0:41:010:41:05

and he was an Englishman.

0:41:050:41:07

The details of her relationship with my great-grandfather

0:41:070:41:10

have almost directly affected me,

0:41:100:41:12

based on the fact that it was a customary marriage.

0:41:120:41:15

So, in the mind of somebody like Dorothy,

0:41:150:41:18

it was a real, traditional and an authentic marriage.

0:41:180:41:22

It was not acceptable for British men to marry African women

0:41:250:41:28

in colonial courts or churches.

0:41:280:41:31

A customary marriage, a local wedding ceremony,

0:41:310:41:35

was one way a mixed race couple could legitimise their union

0:41:350:41:38

in the Gold Coast,

0:41:380:41:40

even if, as in Reggie's great-grandparents' case,

0:41:400:41:44

the marriage would never be deemed legal in Britain.

0:41:440:41:47

It is a fundamental problem brought in by colonisation.

0:41:500:41:55

So, um, I always laugh that our great-grandmothers,

0:41:550:42:00

and the ones before them,

0:42:000:42:01

our ancestors, our shared ancestors,

0:42:010:42:03

that was the form of marriage they took.

0:42:030:42:06

So according to English law, we are all bastards!

0:42:060:42:09

I mean, it's absurd.

0:42:090:42:11

We have our own way of doing things.

0:42:110:42:14

You bring English common law, which is English customary law,

0:42:140:42:18

and you want to impose it on me.

0:42:180:42:21

Your great-grandmother was well married.

0:42:220:42:25

Well, well...your great-grandmother was well married.

0:42:250:42:28

It's customary, it's accepted.

0:42:280:42:31

I saw this and wanted you to read something about Dorothy Lloyd.

0:42:330:42:37

This was, er, a paper that was run by Casely-Hayford.

0:42:370:42:42

In January of 1919,

0:42:440:42:47

Sekondi's most prominent citizens called a meeting

0:42:470:42:51

and put the prohibition of alcohol on the agenda.

0:42:510:42:55

The Temperance Movement was at its height in Britain and America

0:42:550:42:59

and its influence was spreading.

0:42:590:43:01

Many at the meeting spoke out

0:43:010:43:03

against importing alcohol to the Gold Coast.

0:43:030:43:06

-Make sure you use your right hand.

-Yes, I've made sure.

0:43:080:43:11

-My left is taped to my thigh, now!

-This is about liquor.

0:43:110:43:13

Just read somewhere here and I'll give you an explanation of it.

0:43:130:43:16

-You'll see Dorothy Lloyd.

-Where am I reading?

0:43:160:43:18

Dorothy...Miss Dorothy. "..said Miss Dorothy Lloyd,

0:43:180:43:21

"striking a note in favour of the continuance of the traffic.

0:43:210:43:24

"'The discontinuance of liquor in the Gold Coast

0:43:240:43:27

"'will be a great detriment to females.

0:43:270:43:30

"'Liquor helps a woman a great deal after childbirth.

0:43:300:43:32

"'It also helps the native doctor

0:43:320:43:34

"'in preparing medicine for his patient.

0:43:340:43:36

"'And as such, I say that the importation of liquor into the coast

0:43:360:43:39

"'must be continued.'"

0:43:390:43:40

So she's fighting for liquor to come into the area

0:43:400:43:42

and she's saying it's for health reasons!

0:43:420:43:45

THEY LAUGH

0:43:450:43:47

-That's brilliant.

-Yeah, better.

0:43:470:43:51

I'll get there eventually.

0:43:510:43:53

It also says a lot about my great-grandmother, Dorothy,

0:43:550:43:57

and the standing that she had.

0:43:570:43:59

And at this point she's still quite a young woman

0:43:590:44:01

who seems to have quite a respected voice.

0:44:010:44:04

She was educated. She could speak the white man's tongue.

0:44:040:44:07

She was a very formidable person.

0:44:070:44:09

In fact, in our own way of speaking,

0:44:100:44:13

I always refer to her as a she-elephant, you know.

0:44:130:44:18

So let's put it this way -

0:44:200:44:22

the house that Dorothy built was in the heart of the market area,

0:44:220:44:28

you know,

0:44:280:44:29

and definitely, because she was one of the powerful women

0:44:290:44:32

controlling commerce in this city,

0:44:320:44:36

that's how formidable she was in the society.

0:44:360:44:40

Can you tell me anything about Dorothy's parents, then?

0:44:410:44:44

I'd love to find out more about her lineage and her family.

0:44:440:44:47

Dorothy was half black, right?

0:44:470:44:50

-Her maiden name was Lloyd.

-Yes.

-And so that's an English name.

0:44:500:44:54

It seems like those Englishmen really loved our women, didn't they?

0:44:540:44:58

So the mother, Sarah, right, was the wife to Lloyd.

0:44:580:45:04

Dorothy came from the small port town of Dixcove,

0:45:050:45:09

home to her mother, Reggie's great-great-grandmother, Sarah.

0:45:090:45:13

I'm slowly but surely

0:45:160:45:17

learning more about the next generation of the family.

0:45:170:45:21

Mm-hm.

0:45:210:45:23

-OK.

-You've come home.

-Thank you so much.

0:45:230:45:26

And you should always know that you are my son.

0:45:260:45:29

And whenever you come to Sekondi,

0:45:290:45:32

know that you have the right to everything in here, OK?

0:45:320:45:37

-Not to my stool, though!

-HE LAUGHS

0:45:370:45:39

Can I have some gold to leave with? HE LAUGHS

0:45:390:45:42

-I think we had better go!

-Is that my birth right?

0:45:420:45:45

Thank you so much.

0:45:450:45:47

I think Dorothy definitely is one of those characters

0:45:530:45:55

who has almost become a force of nature because she's had to be.

0:45:550:46:01

As a woman of such a young age,

0:46:010:46:03

it's amazing how successful my great-grandmother was

0:46:030:46:06

and how well she did on her own.

0:46:060:46:09

There seems to be this direct relationship

0:46:110:46:14

between the British colonial history and my family -

0:46:140:46:17

the actions of the British people who came to Africa and left.

0:46:170:46:22

Reggie wants to know about

0:46:270:46:28

his great-grandmother Dorothy's British father.

0:46:280:46:32

He's meeting Carina Ray at the Sekondi Archives once more,

0:46:320:46:36

to see if there are any records of Mr Lloyd.

0:46:360:46:39

-Hey.

-Hey.

0:46:410:46:42

-Good to see you.

-Nice to see you. I'll just put this away.

-OK.

0:46:420:46:46

Let's...get to it. Right.

0:46:460:46:49

So I should probably pull out this bad boy once again.

0:46:490:46:53

-Yeah, I recognise that.

-Yes.

0:46:530:46:55

The affidavit of my grandfather, Harry Philip Yates.

0:46:550:46:58

And here he talks about EJ Lloyd,

0:46:580:47:01

who is my great-great-grandfather, I believe.

0:47:010:47:05

-Is there any other information you've found?

-Yes.

0:47:050:47:08

There is, I believe, some information

0:47:080:47:11

about what could possibly be your great-great-grandfather.

0:47:110:47:14

And as we understand it,

0:47:140:47:16

he was a commissioner in the Colonial Service.

0:47:160:47:19

And in fact, we do have a file.

0:47:190:47:21

However, it's for a Mr AG Lloyd, rather than an EJ Lloyd.

0:47:210:47:26

It would be possible in the context of oral history

0:47:260:47:30

to have the initials handed down and change over time,

0:47:300:47:35

and from EJ to AG,

0:47:350:47:37

one can see there's some kind of resonance there.

0:47:370:47:41

And this is his pension form.

0:47:410:47:44

And I'm just going to give it to you, here.

0:47:440:47:46

-This is the actual document?

-This is the actual document.

0:47:460:47:48

-You'll feel it brittle in your hands.

-Yeah.

0:47:480:47:51

And it indicates where he started his career

0:47:510:47:55

in the Colonial Service, and where he finished it.

0:47:550:47:58

So if you look at here...

0:47:580:47:59

-Sierra Leone.

-..his first post is in Sierra Leone.

0:47:590:48:02

-And if you take a look...

-Then to Nigeria

0:48:020:48:04

and then on to the Gold Coast, yeah.

0:48:040:48:05

We see his first appointment being in Sierra Leone.

0:48:050:48:09

And you'll note, here, that he begins his position in 1896.

0:48:090:48:14

Mm-hm.

0:48:140:48:15

And he concludes it in 1899.

0:48:150:48:19

We know that Dorothy was born in Dixcove in 1898,

0:48:210:48:27

or we believe she was born in 1898.

0:48:270:48:30

So either we've got the wrong birth date for Dorothy,

0:48:300:48:33

perhaps she was born in 1900 and not in 1898,

0:48:330:48:38

which would place him in the Gold Coast to have met Sarah.

0:48:380:48:44

The other possibility is that

0:48:440:48:46

he travelled to the Gold Cost at some point.

0:48:460:48:48

What we do know is that this Lloyd that we have here

0:48:480:48:52

is the only Lloyd that is employed in the Gold Coast Colonial Service

0:48:520:48:57

during the time period that would be relevant to Dorothy's birth.

0:48:570:49:00

-And that narrows it down, doesn't it?

-It does, it does.

0:49:000:49:03

And if we go through the file,

0:49:030:49:06

you'll see here that AG Lloyd was in the Gold Coast

0:49:060:49:10

-as a travelling commissioner.

-Mm.

0:49:100:49:12

Commissioners of the Colonial Service,

0:49:150:49:18

like AG Lloyd,

0:49:180:49:19

were Britain's men on the ground in the Gold Coast.

0:49:190:49:22

They travelled to meet chiefs to recruit workers for the mines.

0:49:220:49:27

They secured land for timber and farming,

0:49:270:49:29

built roads -

0:49:290:49:30

whatever it took to make the colony a profitable part of the Empire.

0:49:300:49:35

Lloyd would have learned the local languages

0:49:350:49:38

and mixed with the local people.

0:49:380:49:40

So the description that is recounted in your family's oral history

0:49:410:49:46

matches not only his last name,

0:49:460:49:50

it also matches the position he held.

0:49:500:49:52

So there are some points that suggest that he...

0:49:520:49:56

-Heavily suggest.

-..he could be the right man, yes.

0:49:560:50:00

Thank you so much once again.

0:50:000:50:02

I think I have to go to Dixcove, then.

0:50:020:50:05

Absolutely you do. Safe journey.

0:50:050:50:07

Yeah, thank you.

0:50:070:50:09

Reggie's heading an hour's drive west

0:50:130:50:15

to the port of Dixcove,

0:50:150:50:17

where his great-great-grandmother Sarah was from.

0:50:170:50:21

He's hoping to learn more about her

0:50:210:50:23

and how her relationship with Mr Lloyd may have come about.

0:50:230:50:27

Elders from Sarah's extended family live here.

0:50:280:50:31

Hello.

0:50:420:50:44

We are heading towards the head of the family's place.

0:50:440:50:47

-I see. Hello.

-Yeah.

0:50:470:50:51

HE CALLS OUT AND THEY RESPOND

0:50:510:50:54

Nana Kojo Mensah is the head of the family.

0:50:580:51:01

Madam Ekubak knew Reggie's great-grandmother, Dorothy,

0:51:010:51:05

and has heard stories of Sarah.

0:51:050:51:08

-Shall we sit?

-Oh, yes!

-Hello.

0:51:080:51:12

Thank you so much for finding time to meet us.

0:51:120:51:15

So you know my dad?

0:51:150:51:17

You've met Jojo?

0:51:170:51:20

-They call your father Music Man.

-Music man, yeah!

0:51:250:51:27

Yeah, he plays music. Yeah, a musician.

0:51:270:51:30

My mouth is on fire! THEY LAUGH

0:52:180:52:21

It seems like you remember a lot about the family.

0:52:270:52:29

You seem very happy to see me.

0:52:290:52:31

Thank you for pouring libation, I appreciate it.

0:52:310:52:34

And thank you for having us in the house.

0:52:340:52:36

We've come here because I'm trying to find out

0:52:360:52:39

as much as I can about my family.

0:52:390:52:41

I've got to a lady called Dorothy who was my great-grandmother.

0:52:410:52:44

How about her mother? How about Sarah, my great-great-grandmother?

0:52:440:52:48

I was hoping that you might be able to tell me a bit about Sarah.

0:52:480:52:52

So Sarah was a trader?

0:53:050:53:07

-She worked in trading?

-She was a trader.

0:53:070:53:10

Was she the first person in my line that mixed?

0:53:100:53:14

Typical African Ghanaian.

0:53:280:53:30

And her father was a Ghanaian man?

0:53:300:53:32

Sarah, she doesn't have any...

0:53:320:53:34

-No mix in her family line?

-..mix in her.

0:53:340:53:37

What was Sarah's surname?

0:53:370:53:39

Sarah Arku.

0:53:390:53:41

The father's name's Arku,

0:53:410:53:43

so she was named Sarah Arku.

0:53:430:53:46

So she was the first person that mixed with the English...

0:53:460:53:48

-First person, yes.

-..and that's why Dorothy was so light?

-That's right.

0:53:480:53:52

She was the first person to meet a white person.

0:53:520:53:55

So that's why you are fair.

0:53:550:53:58

Do they know much about the man that she married, Lloyd?

0:53:580:54:01

-English man?

-Yeah.

0:54:010:54:03

She started a business, before she met Mr Lloyd.

0:54:080:54:12

Sarah was doing her own business before meeting Lloyd.

0:54:120:54:17

Maybe Lloyd wanted to buy some pineapples or something

0:54:170:54:21

-and they become friends and maybe they had that...

-Yeah.

0:54:210:54:24

..baby girl with Sarah.

0:54:240:54:27

When Lloyd came and met Sarah,

0:54:270:54:29

did you hear about a customary marriage?

0:54:290:54:31

In those days there wasn't any weddings.

0:54:360:54:38

He comes there and go.

0:54:380:54:39

Comes backwards and forwards.

0:54:390:54:40

-Yeah.

-So they were together to create a child

0:54:400:54:42

but they weren't together in a relationship? He didn't stay?

0:54:420:54:45

-He left?

-Yeah, he left.

0:54:450:54:46

Do they know if Dorothy was really similar to Sarah?

0:54:480:54:51

Was she like her mother?

0:54:510:54:52

OK, OK.

0:54:560:54:58

They look alike. They look alike.

0:54:580:55:00

Only Dorothy is more fair than the mother.

0:55:000:55:05

-So Dorothy and Sarah, they were close, right?

-Yeah.

0:55:050:55:08

The mother and the daughter were together,

0:55:080:55:12

so they were very, very close.

0:55:120:55:14

So they were like mother and daughter and business partners?!

0:55:140:55:17

Business partners, yes.

0:55:170:55:19

-OK. So they were really close?

-They were really close.

0:55:190:55:22

She was the only daughter to her.

0:55:220:55:25

Only had one, yeah.

0:55:250:55:28

That's her only daughter,

0:55:280:55:29

so just like steel and metal, you know?

0:55:290:55:34

-So they are like this.

-Always together. Very close, OK.

0:55:340:55:38

Well, based on the closeness of Dorothy and Sarah,

0:55:380:55:41

that would make sense,

0:55:410:55:43

that he wasn't there and that it was Sarah raising Dorothy.

0:55:430:55:46

Thank you so much.

0:55:460:55:48

I'm not a drinker.

0:55:560:55:58

I never have been, but that Schnapps don't half burn your mouth!

0:55:580:56:01

Geez! Seriously, I think my chest is still warm now

0:56:010:56:05

and it definitely isn't the sun!

0:56:050:56:07

But beyond getting a teeny bit of alcohol, um,

0:56:070:56:11

I'm pretty sure I was sober enough to understand

0:56:110:56:13

that my great-great-grandmother, Sarah, and Mr Lloyd were a couple

0:56:130:56:19

but I don't think that Mr Lloyd

0:56:190:56:22

was a part of Sarah or Dorothy's life, unfortunately.

0:56:220:56:26

He essentially traded, in more ways than one,

0:56:260:56:29

with Sarah,

0:56:290:56:30

and my great-grandmother was a product of that.

0:56:300:56:34

But what came from that was an amazing relationship

0:56:340:56:38

between mother and daughter

0:56:380:56:39

and it produced two very strong women.

0:56:390:56:42

It's an amazing feeling

0:56:420:56:44

to know exactly where that European bit of my lineage began.

0:56:440:56:48

My great-great-grandmother, Sarah,

0:56:480:56:51

was the first person to mix with a European

0:56:510:56:54

and it seems to be a recurring theme

0:56:540:56:57

throughout the generations.

0:56:570:56:59

And it really does explain this!

0:56:590:57:03

It explains this!

0:57:030:57:05

And I've sort of known but I've never really known,

0:57:050:57:08

and it's a great feeling to know for sure today.

0:57:080:57:11

Coming out here on this trip

0:57:150:57:18

has made me feel connected, definitely, to my father more,

0:57:180:57:21

without a doubt.

0:57:210:57:22

My father's side is mixed as far back as we can trace,

0:57:240:57:29

and that mix, I think, has leant to the feeling of resilience

0:57:290:57:35

and...I wouldn't say abandonment

0:57:350:57:37

but I would say that there has BEEN abandonment.

0:57:370:57:40

Mr Lloyd and my great-grandfather,

0:57:430:57:47

George William Yates, left.

0:57:470:57:50

But my grandfather Harry stayed and looked after his children,

0:57:500:57:55

all 16 of them.

0:57:550:57:57

He was there for them.

0:57:570:57:58

Harry seems to have been an amazing man

0:58:000:58:03

that I wish I'd known, or at least met.

0:58:030:58:05

But in the UK,

0:58:070:58:08

myself and my siblings and my cousins

0:58:080:58:12

have over the last years made an effort

0:58:120:58:14

to get together

0:58:140:58:16

and to build relationships and build bridges.

0:58:160:58:19

And it's starting to feel more and more that we are a family.

0:58:190:58:22

I feel like I'm part of something.

0:58:240:58:26

And being here and learning about our history

0:58:260:58:29

has made that even more real.

0:58:290:58:31

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