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Actress Frances De La Tour first rose to fame

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in the late 1970s as Miss Jones in the hit sitcom Rising Damp.

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Miss Jones!

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Mr Rigsby!

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Ohhh!

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After 40 years, Frances is still playing formidable roles in theatre,

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film and television - most recently in the BBC's comedy Big School.

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So if I catch you one more time without alcohol on school property,

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I'll have no option but to suspend you.

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Now get out!

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I've always wanted to do this programme,

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basically because of my children and my grandchildren,

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so they've got a record.

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There you are. I used to play with these.

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That little teddy...

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Tamison, who we call Tammy, she's 40, she looks about 12.

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She's absolutely beautiful.

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And Josh was born three and a half years after Tammy,

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he travels the world, he's in conservation.

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# London's burning, London's burning. #

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We all live very close to each other.

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I've lived in Tufnell Park area in, in London, for about 28 years.

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We know a little bit about great-grandfathers

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and great-grandmothers, but very little,

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so I'm hoping this journey will help me to understand.

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I don't know an awful lot.

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Well, these are some really nice family photos.

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This one...is my parents.

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Dad looking very elegant.

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And that's my grandfather in the background, and my grandmother

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in a faded old mink and a hat, which you can't really see.

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And this is Mum. She's beautiful.

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And that's him, my father, around the same age.

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It's a lovely portrait. That's very, very him.

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This, er, nose, is my grandfather's nose.

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So this is a De La Tour nose.

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My parents divorced when I was eight, I think.

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I think he had a few affairs and lived his own life a bit.

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Made Mum a bit unhappy, so...

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I don't remember him around very much.

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I mean, I loved him to bits.

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And this is Simon, me and Andy.

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'My siblings.'

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Me, Simon and Andrew, I think, are actually quite alike.

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We all have the same humour, where you don't have to say anything.

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Rather like my father,

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Simon's had a very keen interest in the family history.

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DOORBELL RINGS

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-My darling bros.

-Well, guess who this is.

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-Oh, no!

-Guess who!

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'I don't think Andy knows more than I knew, particularly about the family.'

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I brought a bit of sun, summer sunshine with us.

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'But my grandfather did a wonderful book and a family tree,

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'gave it to my brother, my eldest brother, Simon, when he was 21.'

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What have you got there?

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A few little things to... You'll see.

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How lovely to see you, come in.

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You sit there, Simon, and you sit there, Andy.

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My older brother, Simon, and my little baby brother, Andrew.

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And the much and the much, much younger brother,

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-on this side of the table.

-Not so much of the much!

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'Andy lives quite near me. He lives sort of Highgate way.

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'Simon lives in Normandy.'

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Simon, you brought this archive all the way from Northern France, right?

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In here is this marvellous family tree that Grandad Percival did.

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'De La Tours are quite well-recorded.

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'When one of them left France to come here as an emigre, really, um,

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'it was pre-revolution.

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'De La Tour means "of the tower," but I think we were Delaval De La Tour.'

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Those are Dad's siblings and there's Dad... Where's Dad?

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-There's Dad here.

-Dad's there. Charles Frances Delaval De La Tour.

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That's right.

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'I can't tell you about Delaval because I don't know enough about it,

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'so I'm hoping that Simon will help me to understand.'

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What is the connection with the Delavals?

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The Delaval connection intercept with Percy's father,

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-our great-grandfather.

-Right.

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Edward, Edward Frederick.

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Oh, yes, well, there...

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-That's the picture of him. Yeah, they're the two pictures of him.

-OK.

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-Edward Frederick that we've got here.

-Yes.

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-And Edward Frederick married, um, Edith Jadis.

-Right.

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And Jadis is a descendent from the Delaval family.

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The name Delaval was passed down

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from the oldest son to the oldest son.

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Tracing her family tree back three generations,

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Frances has discovered that the name Delaval was introduced

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to the male line of the De La Tours by her great-grandfather, Edward.

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He took it from the family of his wife Edith Jadis,

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a descendant of the Delavals.

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Um, so that's Edith Jadis there.

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And then so their father...

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-Yes.

-..is John Jadis.

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-Yes.

-And then it goes through to the previous...

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Her grandfather, then, would be Henry Jadis.

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Oh, I'm with you.

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-But Henry Jadis'...

-Father...

-Do we want to get to this?

-Yes.

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-Yeah, cos this is interesting, isn't it?

-Yes, Henry Jadis' father...

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-What's his name?

-..which is a great-great-great-great-grandfather,

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is John Godfrey Maximillian - very grand - Jadis,

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who married Sophia Ann Delaval and, in brackets, Honourable.

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The earliest reference to a Delaval on her grandfather's family tree

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is Frances' great-great-great-great-grandmother,

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the Honourable Sophia Ann.

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Now that's what we wanted to get to,

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was the connection with Delaval, in brackets, Honourable.

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And if you are an honourable, your father would have been a lord.

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But I'm keen to know about her

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and, actually, more about the Delavals,

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but maybe more will unfold. Very good.

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So there's obviously signs of, er, aristocracy in there and...

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-There is.

-Or pretentions of, anyway.

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Pretention of in those generations.

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So these, they were mixing rather well, though.

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Yes, they were mixing.

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They were keeping the blood blue.

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So you've got that bit of aristocracy floating around,

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and here's John Godfrey Maximillian Jadis' son,

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also married into the aristocracy, which is Lady Gardner nee Adderley.

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Well, the masked lady.

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And the very fact that Percy, our grandad,

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wrote it like that.

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It's like he found that interesting enough not to just say that

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Henry Jadis married Maria Elizabeth Adderley.

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He wanted to add that she was also Lady Gardner.

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-Who is Lady Gardner?

-Who is?

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Actually, this is a very good point.

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This is a very good point because he could have just said

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Henry Jadis married Maria Elizabeth Adderley.

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Right.

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Well, I think that's really fascinating to find out who...

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This is the mysterious lady. This is the lady in black.

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Maria Elizabeth Lady Gardner, nee Adderley,

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there's a little mystery in her,

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and she was my great-great-great-grandmother.

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Yeah, that's quite fascinating who this woman was.

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To find out more about Maria,

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Frances is meeting genealogist Laura Berry.

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You must be Laura?

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Yes. Hello, Frances.

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Lovely to meet you.

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-Nice to meet you. Come on.

-Here we are.

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So, after we looked at the family tree, I wrote down

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a little small version of it, just so I could understand it more.

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My grandfather could have just put,

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"Henry Jadis married Maria Elizabeth Adderley",

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so the fact that he's put in "Lady Gardner" suggests that maybe

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she was married before.

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Anyway, that intrigued me to know.

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I can tell you I have found Maria's marriage here to a Mr Gardner.

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Look at this. Isn't it wonderful? Yes.

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So this is a Register of Marriages... Who am I looking for...?

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So you've got if you scroll down here, yeah,

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-we'll see a list of surnames.

-Yes, there's a Gardner.

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"Captain Allan Hyde Gardner marries Miss Maria Elizabeth Adderley."

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So that explains that.

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So she was married to him, yes.

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And it says there she was Miss Maria Elizabeth Adderley,

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so we know this is her first marriage.

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-I have a picture here...

-Yes.

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..of her husband, Captain Alan Hyde Gardner.

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-Very dashing, isn't he?

-He is, isn't he?

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He was actually the son of Baron Gardner, although Alan

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didn't inherit that title until quite a few years down the line.

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-Oh, I see, yes.

-So, at this point, Maria is just plain Miss Adderley

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and then Mrs Gardner.

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Miss. And he's quite young there, isn't he? You can see.

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He is so young,

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but actually Maria was even younger because we know from other records

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that she was perhaps as young as 15 or 16 when this marriage took place.

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-Oh, my gosh, that's very... So that's a child really, isn't it?

-Mm, it is.

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But, um, perhaps it could possibly have been an arranged...

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An arranged marriage.

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..society marriage because this man is clearly on an upward career path.

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-Yes, exactly, yes.

-And Maria is the stepdaughter of an Earl, so...

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Yeah, yeah. Well-matched for starting a marriage and a life together,

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and then becoming more titled or, you know, more honoured and...

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Yes, an upward career.

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-So it was so it was a good, um, suited marriage.

-Yes.

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Maria is perhaps, you know, living the life of a typical society wife.

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Um, she would have been going to tea parties and card parties.

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-Yes. Recitals.

-Mm.

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Theatre. But not very fulfilled in her marriage terms...

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-No.

-..because he's away.

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Alan's in the Navy, so he's spending a lot of time away at sea.

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So there he is, away doing his duties, and she's living

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the life of a society girl, but clearly from the family tree record,

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that marriage didn't last very long because...

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because she married...

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my great-great-great-grandmother, this woman, married a Henry Jadis.

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-So...

-Well, yes, I was a bit confused at this to start with

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because it was possible, could he have died at sea?

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He's a naval captain, perhaps, I wasn't sure.

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But having dug around in the archives a bit,

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the next document I found did date from nine years after the marriage.

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In from The Scots Magazine, 1805.

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"In the Court of King's Bench, on the 2nd March, Captain Gardner

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"of the Navy, son of Admiral Lord Gardner, obtained a verdict

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"against Mr Jadis..." who was my great-great-great-grandfather,

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"..for criminal conversation with his wife."

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For criminal conversation with his wife. "Damages..." £1,000, is that?

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-What's that? Yes.

-£1,000.

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"They were laid at £20,000."

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That's a hell of a lot of money.

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It is, isn't it? It is.

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Now, I love this. Criminal conversation.

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So, in other words, he was overheard or...? No.

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What does it mean? Were they plotting to steal something?

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It does make you want to know, doesn't it?

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Mm, it does, yeah.

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Cos now it is intriguing

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because it's opened up a whole can of worms here, hasn't it?

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This is my great-great-great-grandmother.

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We're quite near.

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It's like a thriller, isn't it? Cos then you want to know.

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Frances has come to the Parliamentary Archives

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at the Palace of Westminster,

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which hold legal scrolls dating back to 1497.

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To find out more about what went on between Maria

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and Henry Jadis, she's meeting historian professor Joanne Bailey.

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So what is a criminal conversation?

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A criminal conversation action was a lawsuit where a husband

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could sue his wife's lover.

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So, if you have a look here at this document,

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you'll be able to find out more.

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Right.

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"So the said Henry,

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"on the First Day of March in the year of our Lord 1803

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"at London, he made an assault upon one Maria Elizabeth Gardner,

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"then and there and still being the wife of the said Alan Hyde,

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"and then and there, debauched, lay with and carnally knew her..."

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Oh, it's a little bit of how's your father going on there!

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"..whereby the said Alan Hyde for a long space of time has wholly lost

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"and been deprived of the comfort, fellowship,

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"aid and assistance of his said wife."

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That's an incredible sort of indictment and also, um, a kind of

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support for him, that he can actually take to court saying, "I have lost.

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"I have been cuckolded. I have lost my reputation. I want justice."

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Yes, exactly.

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That is trying to pin the blame on the lover, in this case Henry,

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-for seducing the wife.

-Yes, for seducing.

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The blame isn't the finger isn't being pointed

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-so much at the wife as the lover, yes.

-That's right.

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So, for Alan Gardner, he's also interested in his honour.

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Until the mid-18th century, gentlemen,

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like Alan Hyde Gardner and Henry Jadis,

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would often have settled matters of honour through a duel.

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But by the early 19th century, men were using the courts

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to restore their reputations.

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Women like Maria were treated as property, with their value

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determined by their social status.

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I want to show you this, this lovely satirical cartoon here,

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which you'll see from its title,

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Crim Con Temptations With The Prices Affixed,

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cos criminal conversations were usually shortened to crim cons.

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-Crim con. That is criminal conversation.

-Indeed, yes.

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-Temptations.

-Yes.

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So what they're saying is what they're worth in society's terms.

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"I am but a servant for all work,

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"then be rest assured no more than one shilling damages."

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I am...very lowest of the low, almost.

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And then this rather pompous woman seems a bit lardy,

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-but she's showing a leg.

-Yes.

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Surely 1,000 cannot be called excessive damages.

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Er, and now a rather big lady with a huge muff...

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hand muff.

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-I mean, they're caricatured, they're ridiculed...

-Yes.

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..in one sense by exhibiting them like this,

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but, nevertheless, men beware.

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So I remember when we looked at the little thing saying that there

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was this criminal conversation, that there was an award made

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or there was a demand, as it were, for £20,000,

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which was just...unbelievable amount of money then, but he got 1,000.

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Yes. There are lots of reasons for that lower award.

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As the case is reported, there is a degree of ambivalence about Maria.

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-Ah, so that does come through in the case?

-Yes.

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So perhaps not quite as virtuous as she might have been.

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Therefore, that will have also lowered the damages awarded.

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So, I'm just assuming now, that there was some sort of divorce

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or something, and she went off with her lover.

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But we don't know, we don't really know for sure what happened...

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either immediately or a few years down the line.

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What we know is that Alan also sued Maria.

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Sued her as well.

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So the key to the next stage will be court records.

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In terms of Gardner's position in society, he would not be a man

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if he was publicly cuckolded and didn't get some reward from it.

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But, um, it's very difficult to feel terribly sorry

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for the privileged who are damned because they're so privileged,

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and particularly if it's set up

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against a woman from the same background,

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so, in other words, equally privileged,

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but gets nothing if something goes wrong in her life.

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From that point of view,

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it would be very interesting to find out what happens to her.

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Frances has come to Mayfair,

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where Maria lived with her husband Alan Hyde Gardner.

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She's meeting historian Hannah Greig.

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What we have with us here is a copy of court documents

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and, in particular, the evidence that was given by Maria's maid,

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-Susannah, to the court saying...

-They know everything.

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They do know everything, as we will see from the document.

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Yes, yes.

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In 1805, right.

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"The deponent." Is that her?

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-Yes, so that's Susannah, the maid.

-That's Susannah.

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"The deponent was, as usual, in her needlework

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"in Mrs Gardner's said bedroom.

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"She was much surprised by the said Henry Jadis

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"and Maria Elizabeth Gardner coming upstairs together

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"into the said bedroom from the drawing room,

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"and particularly so at the said Maria Elizabeth Gardner

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"then sending the deponent downstairs to bring some milk."

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OK so far. Seems quite innocent.

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And then it goes on.

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"In about ten minutes after leaving the said bedroom,

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"she carried some milk into the drawing room,

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"where she then found her said mistress..."

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Plot thickens.

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"..and the said Mr Jadis.

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"Then the deponent then immediately went upstairs into the said

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"Mrs Gardner's bedroom and then found that the bed therein

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"was tumbled as if two persons had been laying thereon."

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She doesn't miss anything, does she, this maid?!

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"The deponent said that she has no manner of doubt they had

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"the carnal use and knowledge of each other's bodies on the said bed."

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They might have had a romp.

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It doesn't actually say they had sex, does it?

0:19:360:19:39

Well, I suppose it implies it.

0:19:390:19:41

It implies it.

0:19:410:19:42

I mean, she appears to have got rid of the maid...

0:19:420:19:45

-Yes, yes.

-..for a period of time and retreated to the bedroom

0:19:450:19:48

with Henry Jadis, where the bed has become tumbled.

0:19:480:19:51

"And during the time the said Captain Gardner

0:19:510:19:55

"was absent on the said voyage to the West Indies,

0:19:550:19:59

"she told the deponent that she was pregnant by the said Mr Jadis

0:19:590:20:04

"and she further said that so long as there was a chance of the said

0:20:040:20:08

"Mrs Gardner being delivered of the child with which she was pregnant

0:20:080:20:12

"in due time, that it might be considered

0:20:120:20:15

"as the child of her said husband."

0:20:150:20:18

-So she confides in Susannah that she's pregnant...

-That's right.

0:20:180:20:22

..and pregnant with Henry Jadis, who she's been seeing regularly at home.

0:20:220:20:26

That's right.

0:20:260:20:27

And so what seems to be initially happening is that she is trying to

0:20:270:20:31

persuade her husband and persuade the household that the child

0:20:310:20:35

is his, it's the husband's,

0:20:350:20:37

-so a legitimate offspring of the marriage.

-Exactly.

0:20:370:20:40

So in a situation like this, it might be quite common that

0:20:400:20:44

the wife would feign that she was -

0:20:440:20:47

if she could with the timing of it - that the child was her husband's.

0:20:470:20:51

Well, she is taking a big risk.

0:20:510:20:53

We know that Alan and Maria

0:20:530:20:56

last saw each other at the end of January 1802.

0:20:560:20:59

The maid's testimony reveals that, as the pregnancy went on,

0:20:590:21:04

Maria became worried that the dates might not tally

0:21:040:21:06

and so changed her story.

0:21:060:21:09

In the late summer of 1802, she convinced her husband

0:21:090:21:12

that her swollen appearance was the effect of obstructions

0:21:120:21:16

and that she wasn't pregnant after all.

0:21:160:21:18

She finally gives birth in the earliest weeks of December, 1802.

0:21:180:21:23

So, sort of, we're looking at ten, perhaps ten and a bit months

0:21:230:21:27

between the last marital meeting and the birth of the child.

0:21:270:21:32

So if you just read from here.

0:21:320:21:33

"So in the night she, the said Maria Elizabeth Gardner,

0:21:330:21:37

"was delivered secretly and totally unknown to the said

0:21:370:21:41

"Captain Hyde Gardner, and every other person in the house,

0:21:410:21:46

"except the deponent and a Mrs Burns, of a male child.

0:21:460:21:52

"As soon as the child had been dressed

0:21:520:21:54

"and the things got ready, she, the said Mrs Burns,

0:21:540:21:58

"carried the said child

0:21:580:21:59

"secretly out of the said house to be nursed by Mrs Bailey."

0:21:590:22:06

Pretty convenient, isn't it?

0:22:060:22:08

Have the baby, have some secret people around you.

0:22:080:22:11

It's terrible, really, isn't it?

0:22:110:22:13

You would give the baby to... Immediately, the moment it's born...

0:22:130:22:16

Yeah.

0:22:160:22:18

..to somebody, to take to somebody,

0:22:180:22:20

probably been paid to look after the baby.

0:22:200:22:23

I was just wondering why it wasn't possible for her

0:22:230:22:28

to just go off with Jadis and have the life she wanted to have.

0:22:280:22:35

Well, I suppose we might presume if she's in love with Henry Jadis,

0:22:350:22:38

why doesn't she just run off into the sunset?

0:22:380:22:41

But in fact, in the 18th century, she has very few options.

0:22:410:22:44

When a woman married, she gained status and security,

0:22:440:22:49

but all of her property and wealth became her husband's.

0:22:490:22:52

Maria was entirely financially dependent on Alan Hyde Gardner.

0:22:520:22:56

I mean, so many of all those women

0:22:580:23:01

whose stories were, if it didn't work out with the husband,

0:23:010:23:06

if there was a problem, if there was a lover, if there was an issue,

0:23:060:23:10

if she left, she may as well throw herself under a train.

0:23:100:23:13

-Yeah, yeah.

-Almost.

0:23:130:23:14

There seemed to be no choice, that's the thing.

0:23:140:23:17

-Yeah, yeah, yeah.

-Yeah. Oh, my goodness.

0:23:170:23:19

Well, at this stage, of these proceedings,

0:23:190:23:21

Captain Alan Hyde Gardner still thinks his marriage is intact.

0:23:210:23:26

Well, he subsequently is informed by a footman some months later

0:23:260:23:31

that an affair has been taking place in his household.

0:23:310:23:35

This is potentially a complete thunderbolt into his life.

0:23:350:23:40

His only responsibility as a member of the peerage is to produce

0:23:400:23:44

an heir himself who will inherit his estate, his bloodline

0:23:440:23:47

and define the security of his family's future,

0:23:470:23:50

and that's suddenly put at risk by the production

0:23:500:23:54

of this illegitimate son and his knowledge about his wife's affair.

0:23:540:23:57

So Alan is going to start proceedings

0:23:570:24:00

in order to get divorced.

0:24:000:24:01

In the early 19th century,

0:24:010:24:03

divorce was only an option for the aristocracy and the very rich.

0:24:030:24:08

It was expensive and every divorce case

0:24:080:24:10

required a private act of Parliament to be passed.

0:24:100:24:13

When Alan Hyde Gardner petitioned to divorce his wife Maria,

0:24:130:24:17

he added a bastardisation clause,

0:24:170:24:20

so that Maria's child would be declared illegitimate

0:24:200:24:23

and have no right to inherit his title or estate.

0:24:230:24:27

It sounds like he's got an open and shut case, really,

0:24:270:24:31

in terms of what you imagine Parliament would think in those days.

0:24:310:24:36

They would go, "Yes, this is absolutely outrageous

0:24:360:24:38

"and we must give him his due."

0:24:380:24:40

That would be my immediate, um, conclusion of the result.

0:24:400:24:45

I may be completely wrong.

0:24:450:24:46

Well, that's obviously what Alan is hoping for, you know,

0:24:460:24:49

and that's obviously...

0:24:490:24:50

His key motivation here is this issue about the son.

0:24:500:24:53

-Yes, yes, exactly.

-The divorce itself has passed through Parliament

0:24:530:24:56

because it's very clear that Maria has had an adulteress relationship.

0:24:560:25:00

-Yes.

-But the bastardisation clause is actually removed from

0:25:000:25:03

the final divorce document.

0:25:030:25:06

And when the petition is reviewed in Parliament,

0:25:060:25:10

the Lord Chancellor actually looks very carefully

0:25:100:25:13

at the dates of the pregnancy

0:25:130:25:15

and suggests there's room for doubt about whose child it is.

0:25:150:25:19

Which there is, yes, on the months and all that, yes, yes.

0:25:190:25:22

Yeah, and it seems to have been the potential that the son

0:25:220:25:28

could have been the legitimate offspring of Alan Gardner.

0:25:280:25:33

Which would make him... would worry him enormously,

0:25:330:25:38

Mr Gardner, because...leaving it like that, that son could be his,

0:25:380:25:45

unless proved otherwise, he's entitled to Mr Gardner's estate.

0:25:450:25:50

Seems to be that Maria fell in love with Jadis.

0:25:580:26:03

My sympathies tend to be more with her

0:26:030:26:05

because of what she went through,

0:26:050:26:09

particularly the giving up of a child the moment it's born

0:26:090:26:12

because it doesn't basically suit the husband.

0:26:120:26:15

Who does he belong to?

0:26:150:26:17

And what, you know, what's to become of him?

0:26:180:26:21

Alan Hyde Gardner divorced Frances' great-great-great-grandmother

0:26:220:26:26

Maria in 1805, leaving her free to marry her lover, Henry Jadis,

0:26:260:26:31

that same year.

0:26:310:26:33

Frances has come to St Peter's Church in Iver, Buckinghamshire,

0:26:350:26:39

to meet genealogist Anthony Marr,

0:26:390:26:41

who's been searching for more information on Maria and her first son.

0:26:410:26:46

-Mind the step.

-Thank you.

0:26:460:26:48

So why are we in this rather beautiful church?

0:26:480:26:52

This is a church that Maria would have known.

0:26:520:26:53

Her stepfather was the Earl of Buckinghamshire

0:26:530:26:56

and his sister lived very close by.

0:26:560:26:58

She would very, very much have known this church.

0:26:580:27:01

Well, the last thing I discovered is that

0:27:010:27:03

my great-great-great-grandmother, Maria Elizabeth,

0:27:030:27:07

had this child and we know there was a bastardisation case.

0:27:070:27:13

The actual argument about this went on for many years.

0:27:130:27:16

-The son has been brought up by Henry and Maria as their child.

-Yes.

0:27:160:27:19

They married soon after the divorce came through in 1805.

0:27:190:27:22

-Oh, they did, yes, yes.

-They went on to have other children

0:27:220:27:25

and this son was brought up as part of the family.

0:27:250:27:28

But certainly in 1825, he chanced his arm, perhaps,

0:27:280:27:31

and I'll show you some details of that in a newspaper article.

0:27:310:27:35

Era.

0:27:350:27:36

"The Gardner peerage case came before the House of Lords in 1825."

0:27:370:27:43

Well, quite a long time after all the things we were discovering.

0:27:430:27:47

"Alan Legge Gardner, the son of Lord Gardner by his second wife,

0:27:470:27:53

"petitioned to have his name inscribed as a peer

0:27:530:27:56

"on the Parliament Roll.

0:27:560:27:57

"The peerage was however claimed by another person,

0:27:570:28:00

"Henry Fenton Jadis..." Ah-ha!

0:28:000:28:04

"..who alleged that he was the son of Lord Gardner

0:28:040:28:08

"by his first and subsequently divorced wife."

0:28:080:28:12

Oh, goodness me.

0:28:120:28:13

"The decision of the House was that this claimant was illegitimate

0:28:130:28:18

"and that the title should descend to the son of the second Lady Gardner."

0:28:180:28:23

It's very well-described, isn't it?

0:28:230:28:27

So 20 years after the events of the divorce

0:28:270:28:30

and the initial court cases, this issue is still going on

0:28:300:28:35

and Maria's being dragged through having to relive it all again,

0:28:350:28:38

I suppose.

0:28:380:28:39

Why would he want to claim entitlement from...?

0:28:390:28:44

I can only speculate on the draw of peerage title, wealth, perhaps.

0:28:440:28:49

And I wonder if that was supported by his mother...

0:28:490:28:53

-We don't know.

-..and Jadis? Whether they said, "Yes, give it a go."

0:28:530:28:57

Or whether they said, "Oh, don't go there."

0:28:570:28:59

What were those family discussions like

0:28:590:29:01

and were they arguing or were they in agreement about the way to proceed?

0:29:010:29:06

But it is interesting, 20 years on and here we are.

0:29:060:29:10

And all comes from the fact that this issue was never resolved

0:29:100:29:13

at the time and left hanging.

0:29:130:29:15

So what we don't know is was she...? Did it give her the sense of,

0:29:150:29:20

"I'm going to see this through", or...who knows?

0:29:200:29:26

I'm speculating now as to her state of mind and her state of heart.

0:29:260:29:31

Maria died aged 50.

0:29:370:29:40

Goodness me.

0:29:400:29:42

Henry Jadis left a permanent memorial to his wife.

0:29:420:29:46

"This little tribute of the fondest affection to the memory

0:29:460:29:51

"of Maria Elizabeth, the wife of Henry Jadis,

0:29:510:29:54

"who died on the fourth December, 1831 is inscribed by her husband,

0:29:540:30:00

"whose days of happiness gone forever

0:30:000:30:04

"by the bitterness of his sorrows."

0:30:040:30:07

God, there's such feeling there, isn't there? Such feeling.

0:30:100:30:15

"Her gentle love for his children, her fearful sufferings

0:30:210:30:25

"and resignation, these are the tender

0:30:250:30:28

"and mournful recollections pressing upon his weary heart."

0:30:280:30:35

So he really... He loved her, didn't he?

0:30:350:30:40

-Very modern, in a way.

-Yeah.

0:30:420:30:45

Isn't it? When you think when that was,

0:30:450:30:47

that he's as a man that perhaps as a 20th century would say,

0:30:470:30:54

this is hell and, you know,

0:30:540:30:57

and particularly your role as a woman is not good in this society,

0:30:570:31:02

and I'm going to stand by you,

0:31:020:31:04

and this is going to haunt us probably all our life,

0:31:040:31:06

but may not deter our happiness.

0:31:060:31:09

But I'm going to protect you and support you.

0:31:090:31:12

He seemed, er, very much in love with her.

0:31:120:31:15

They really tell the story of what they've gone through

0:31:150:31:18

-as a couple together, don't they?

-Yes.

0:31:180:31:20

Thank you very much for the information.

0:31:200:31:22

It's very moving.

0:31:220:31:24

I'm sure that plaque that her husband wrote for her says it all,

0:31:280:31:33

that she suffered all her life.

0:31:330:31:37

They were obviously beloved of each other, loved each other,

0:31:370:31:41

and she died quite young at the end of it all.

0:31:410:31:44

It's just a very moving story.

0:31:440:31:47

Well, when I was looking at the family tree that my brother

0:32:000:32:03

brought over that my grandfather had made,

0:32:030:32:06

we had at the top Sophia Anne Delaval, in brackets, Honourable.

0:32:060:32:10

I really want to know all about her and really what her story was.

0:32:130:32:17

If we want to understand more about ourselves,

0:32:180:32:21

we have to start with her.

0:32:210:32:23

The Honourable Sophia Anne Delaval, mother of Henry Jadis,

0:32:230:32:27

is Frances' great-great-great-great-grandmother.

0:32:270:32:31

She is the first Delaval to appear on the family tree

0:32:310:32:34

drawn up by Frances' grandfather.

0:32:340:32:36

I am now on the trail of Sophia Delaval,

0:32:430:32:49

but I will put in her married name,

0:32:490:32:53

which is Jadis, and see what comes up.

0:32:530:32:58

Um, must be that button.

0:32:580:33:02

We have Sophia Jadis here.

0:33:020:33:05

This is a burial record and it gives us County Lincolnshire Parish,

0:33:050:33:12

Doddington-Pigot, date 2nd August, 1793.

0:33:120:33:16

Anyway, one result,

0:33:160:33:18

so we have to take it from there, presumably in Doddington.

0:33:180:33:23

Frances knows that Sophia Anne had the title Honourable.

0:33:300:33:34

She's heading for Doddington Hall,

0:33:340:33:37

the main house in the village of Doddington in Lincolnshire.

0:33:370:33:40

Ah, look at this house! It's monumental.

0:33:470:33:53

Look at that.

0:33:530:33:55

Dying to find out more and if my family had anything to do

0:33:550:33:59

with living here, in which case, why aren't I?!

0:33:590:34:03

Good afternoon, Frances.

0:34:050:34:07

Hello. This is very exciting.

0:34:070:34:10

I'm James Birch.

0:34:100:34:12

James, OK.

0:34:120:34:13

-Welcome to Doddington.

-Thank you. Wow!

0:34:130:34:16

-What a beauty.

-Well, thank you.

0:34:160:34:19

Incredible. So this is your home?

0:34:190:34:21

-Well, yes.

-And why isn't it mine?

0:34:210:34:23

It's a long story.

0:34:230:34:25

But, in particular, one of the last of the Delaval females

0:34:250:34:28

had an affair with my wife's ancestor and she gave it to him.

0:34:280:34:33

How amazing.

0:34:330:34:34

There we go.

0:34:340:34:35

So, um, shall we go inside and see what there is?

0:34:350:34:39

In the late 18th century,

0:34:390:34:40

the Delaval family were wealthy industrialists.

0:34:400:34:43

They were also landed gentry, owning four estates across the country.

0:34:430:34:48

James Birch has been searching the Delaval family archives

0:34:480:34:52

for any information on Sophia Anne, also known as Sophie Anne.

0:34:520:34:57

..in the archives. Now we don't have a huge amount about Sophie Anne,

0:34:570:35:02

but we do have two letters that refer to Sophie Anne,

0:35:020:35:06

around the sort of 1778 period.

0:35:060:35:09

-I think it's to her sister from Sophie Anne herself.

-OK.

0:35:090:35:14

"My Dear Hussey, you're all too good to me.

0:35:140:35:18

"You may think what you please of me,

0:35:180:35:20

"but you never shall find that I forget the great goodness

0:35:200:35:25

"of tenderness that I have felt for this most horrid misconduct of mine."

0:35:250:35:31

Mm, well, what was that?

0:35:310:35:34

Well, I have to say, I wish I knew but I don't.

0:35:340:35:36

As with many of these sort of incidents,

0:35:360:35:39

it's written out of the history,

0:35:390:35:41

so we have no idea what this relates to.

0:35:410:35:43

The other possible clue is the second letter to Sir John Delaval.

0:35:430:35:48

John Delaval was her father

0:35:480:35:50

and it's from one of his employees, and there again in 1778,

0:35:500:35:54

and I think that possibly is linked to the first letter in some way.

0:35:540:35:57

"My wife and I are heartily sorry

0:35:570:36:00

"to hear of Miss Delaval's rash marriage

0:36:000:36:03

"and heartily feel for your Honour and my Lady Hussey Delaval,

0:36:030:36:09

"the affliction you must have had on the occasion."

0:36:090:36:14

Goodness me.

0:36:140:36:15

There's a lot of upset feelings around here.

0:36:150:36:19

There has been a rash marriage

0:36:190:36:22

and it obviously was something that was shocking.

0:36:220:36:25

I long to hear what the drama was all about...

0:36:250:36:30

in this beautiful house.

0:36:300:36:33

There was a great disapproving of Sophia's rash marriage.

0:36:400:36:45

This horrid misconduct,

0:36:450:36:48

maybe that's just an overall view of

0:36:480:36:51

how a girl should or shouldn't behave,

0:36:510:36:53

or maybe it was something more drastic,

0:36:530:36:57

but something awful's happened.

0:36:570:36:58

And all this seemed to have happened in 1778,

0:36:580:37:02

and it would be good to find out.

0:37:020:37:04

Frances has come to the parish church on the Doddington Estate

0:37:040:37:08

to look for any records of Sophia

0:37:080:37:10

in the Registers of Births, Deaths and Marriages.

0:37:100:37:13

It starts in 1695.

0:37:130:37:17

So what we want is 1778, marriages...

0:37:170:37:23

1726, ah, here we are. No, that's Christenings.

0:37:230:37:29

Turn over again. Just going to go by the dates now.

0:37:290:37:33

1752. Ah, take my glasses off so I can look a bit closer.

0:37:330:37:38

So I've come to the date I want and I'm looking for a marriage.

0:37:380:37:42

1778, January 19th, but it says baptism, not a marriage.

0:37:420:37:48

Sophia... There's something crossed out.

0:37:480:37:52

Sophia Delaval, but that's crossed out,

0:37:530:37:58

and on top, underlined, is Devereaux.

0:37:580:38:02

Henry, son of Henry Devereaux,

0:38:030:38:07

Esquire of Bordeaux,

0:38:070:38:11

it looks like, in France, different name.

0:38:110:38:14

Devereaux. The plot thickens.

0:38:150:38:19

I need to look at my little family tree that I wrote rather roughly.

0:38:190:38:26

Um, so we're talking about Sophia Anne Delaval here,

0:38:260:38:32

marries John Godfrey Maximillian Jadis.

0:38:320:38:36

They have a son called Henry Jadis.

0:38:380:38:42

Devereaux doesn't seem to come into it.

0:38:420:38:44

Devereaux has been wiped out of the history books, it seems.

0:38:440:38:47

But she died a Jadis because I saw from the computer,

0:38:470:38:51

when I was looking it up, that the burial records tell us

0:38:510:38:55

that she was a Jadis, she was married to this man here.

0:38:550:38:59

So was she actually married to Devereaux?

0:38:590:39:02

Was it just a liaison? And they had a child.

0:39:020:39:07

I need to know more about Devereaux,

0:39:080:39:10

whether... What his existence was and why they were so upset,

0:39:100:39:15

but I am interested to know why she then married a Jadis.

0:39:150:39:20

So, that was the chaos.

0:39:200:39:23

Frances has returned to Doddington Hall to try to unravel

0:39:280:39:31

the truth behind the baptism of Sophia's son, Henry.

0:39:310:39:35

She's meeting historian Sarah Richardson.

0:39:350:39:38

Oh, how lovely. Look at that!

0:39:390:39:43

So this could have been the drawing room that Sophia sat in.

0:39:430:39:48

Yeah, absolutely. I think it's highly likely

0:39:480:39:51

that she spent a great deal of her time in here.

0:39:510:39:54

Funny feeling, isn't it, to think that she walked these floors?

0:39:540:39:58

Oh, my goodness me.

0:40:000:40:01

I've just seen the baptism record, and the name Delaval is crossed out,

0:40:030:40:08

and Devereaux has been put next to Sophia Anne

0:40:080:40:12

when she's having her child baptised, Henry.

0:40:120:40:15

So I just wondered why the Delaval was crossed out.

0:40:150:40:19

Clearly, there's been a deliberate insertion of Devereaux.

0:40:190:40:24

We've looked into the origins of a Henry Devereaux in Bordeaux

0:40:240:40:29

and there's no record of him at all.

0:40:290:40:31

Oh!

0:40:310:40:33

So there seems to be an implication that this marriage doesn't exist.

0:40:330:40:38

All we know is she has turned up in Doddington with a son.

0:40:380:40:43

So is that why she's put that in at that point,

0:40:430:40:47

is to prove that the child was not illegitimate?

0:40:470:40:50

What's important for the family's social standing is that there is

0:40:500:40:55

a husband around, so that's why they create this fictional Mr Devereaux.

0:40:550:41:01

So I just wanted to show you my family tree that I scribbled,

0:41:010:41:05

and we have here Henry Jadis.

0:41:050:41:08

So the Henry Jadis we have here

0:41:080:41:11

is in fact that child that was baptised, so it has Henry Devereaux.

0:41:110:41:16

I don't know how soon after...

0:41:160:41:20

the baptism of her son she married John Jadis.

0:41:200:41:25

So this is really the first evidence that we have,

0:41:250:41:28

a couple of years later,

0:41:280:41:30

about John Jadis, which is a bill from Thomas Greene,

0:41:300:41:36

who's a lawyer to Sophia's father, Sir John Hussey Delaval.

0:41:360:41:42

"February 6th, attending with Mr Jadis on Proctor

0:41:430:41:48

"in Doctors Commons to have licence regularly made out

0:41:480:41:53

"as they propose being married in the morning.

0:41:530:41:57

"February 7th, attending early on Secretary at the War Office to

0:41:570:42:02

"make myself certain Mr Jadis was the person he represented himself to be."

0:42:020:42:09

So what was Jadis' background?

0:42:090:42:11

Well, from other sources, we do know that he was in the army.

0:42:110:42:15

He was an ensign,

0:42:150:42:16

so he was the lowest of the sort of commissioned officers,

0:42:160:42:19

clearly sort of far below Sophia's social standing and station.

0:42:190:42:24

If we look at what her sisters are doing at the same time,

0:42:240:42:27

they're all being married off into the aristocracy, basically.

0:42:270:42:31

She has very few options.

0:42:310:42:33

She's a single mother, she has a young child...

0:42:330:42:38

She's clearly not going to be able to marry well.

0:42:380:42:41

Yes, again, I discovered that in this wonderfully ordered house

0:42:420:42:47

and where everything is just so, that everything isn't just so.

0:42:470:42:52

Cos people are people and love comes into it

0:42:520:42:55

and, you know, there's waywardness.

0:42:550:42:57

So did this marriage work out?

0:42:570:43:00

We have another letter that Sir John, the father,

0:43:000:43:04

is writing to his land agent.

0:43:040:43:06

It's a draft one, so I'm going to warn you it's difficult to read.

0:43:060:43:10

And what's key about this letter is the crossings out and insertions.

0:43:100:43:16

"I am extremely sorry to inform you that poor Sophie has acquainted me

0:43:160:43:24

"and my family of her determination to part from Mr Jadis..." Oh.

0:43:240:43:31

"..upon account of a long series of very bad treatment."

0:43:320:43:38

And then he's crossed out what he then said.

0:43:380:43:41

Yeah, and I think the crossings out here are...

0:43:410:43:43

Are really important. That he does not...

0:43:430:43:46

but he does not accuse her...

0:43:460:43:49

or blame her, except by saying when he

0:43:490:43:53

behaved to her as he should not have done, he had always drank too much.

0:43:530:44:00

Well, that's extremely sad, isn't it?

0:44:020:44:04

Because she had married a drunk.

0:44:040:44:06

So where did Sophia go? What happened to her?

0:44:060:44:09

What did she do?

0:44:090:44:11

Well, we have letters that show that, a year after the separation,

0:44:110:44:16

she'd moved to London.

0:44:160:44:18

The separation on its own is another scandal that has hit the family

0:44:180:44:22

because Sophia is now a woman living on her own with a child.

0:44:220:44:28

Basically socially ostracised and her father's in a state,

0:44:280:44:32

and... So what happens? What happens next?

0:44:320:44:36

Oh, I hope she doesn't rush off with her child

0:44:360:44:39

to the end of a cliff or something

0:44:390:44:42

because she's obviously... It's just her and her child.

0:44:420:44:46

It's bad enough in this day and age, women are still ostracised.

0:44:470:44:51

Very sad. I'd like to know what happens.

0:44:520:44:56

Well, the next sort of piece of information that we have

0:44:560:44:59

about Sophia comes from this bill.

0:44:590:45:02

It just says...

0:45:020:45:04

That's the name Mr Fussell.

0:45:040:45:06

"Mr Fussell, Apothecary." It's a chemist, that's what he is.

0:45:060:45:10

1790. December 5th.

0:45:100:45:12

This is a bill for the Honourable Mrs Jadis.

0:45:160:45:20

So she's purchased something for £57.9 shillings,

0:45:200:45:25

which is a lot of money.

0:45:250:45:27

Oh, what has she bought?

0:45:300:45:32

Oh, God, I don't know.

0:45:370:45:39

She's going to do something horrible.

0:45:420:45:45

Sophia's predicament is just heart-breaking.

0:45:490:45:52

To be an unmarried mother with a child,

0:45:520:45:55

from a family that was very high in the social strata of things...

0:45:550:45:59

There was lots of aristocrats around

0:45:590:46:03

and she would have let the family name down,

0:46:030:46:07

so it's a horrible situation to be in.

0:46:070:46:10

I'd like to find out about the apothecary bill,

0:46:100:46:14

why she spent so much money at the chemist.

0:46:140:46:17

I can't imagine.

0:46:170:46:19

But I think there's maybe something strange afoot there.

0:46:230:46:27

I can't think what it is.

0:46:270:46:29

Frances has returned to London

0:46:290:46:31

to visit an original 18th-century apothecary store.

0:46:310:46:35

She's meeting medical historian Tom Quick.

0:46:350:46:38

The last thing I saw was a really large bill for over £57

0:46:380:46:44

and I wondered what she would have been buying for that kind of money.

0:46:440:46:48

-Well, we have these bills from 1790 and 1791.

-Right.

0:46:480:46:53

So if you'd just like to take a look at those.

0:46:530:46:57

OK. 32 ounces of...

0:46:570:47:01

So it's laudanum?

0:47:010:47:04

Yes, yes. Yeah.

0:47:040:47:06

Is that a kind of...? Was that for depression or something like that?

0:47:060:47:10

-What was it for?

-Laudanum was a tincture of opium,

0:47:100:47:13

so it would be opium soaked in wine or spirits.

0:47:130:47:18

It was a very versatile drug, laudanum, opium in general,

0:47:180:47:22

so people would recommend it for pain,

0:47:220:47:25

but they would also recommend it for what they called diseases

0:47:250:47:28

-or problems with the nervous system.

-Yes.

0:47:280:47:31

Today, opium is used to make heroin. But back in the 18th century,

0:47:320:47:37

it was widely prescribed as a medicine in the form of laudanum.

0:47:370:47:41

It was used for a whole range of ailments, from a simple cough,

0:47:410:47:44

to toothache, to gynaecological pain, and it was highly addictive.

0:47:440:47:49

She may have started out with perhaps taking

0:47:490:47:54

something of this size.

0:47:540:47:55

Right, yes. And then a light ounce of the same,

0:47:550:48:00

and then a quarter of the same. Ten quarts.

0:48:000:48:04

Eight ounces, 20 ounces, a pint here.

0:48:040:48:08

And actually very frequently as well, you know.

0:48:080:48:11

-So we have...

-Oh, these are of course the dates, yes.

0:48:110:48:14

January 7th, lots of laudanum, February 7th,

0:48:140:48:18

April, May, June, July, a quarter of laudanum.

0:48:180:48:24

God! August.

0:48:240:48:25

So that's... Well, that's six... Over six months.

0:48:250:48:28

Oh, my God, she's completely drugged with it.

0:48:280:48:31

So do we know how she proceeded from here?

0:48:330:48:37

Well, there are a few other items on these bills.

0:48:370:48:42

Um, oh, a "specific lotion." What's that?

0:48:420:48:47

It's a very vague phrase, I know,

0:48:470:48:48

but it was actually often used by physicians as a sort of

0:48:480:48:52

a means of talking about treatments for venereal disease.

0:48:520:48:56

Oh, God!

0:48:560:48:57

So she could have had... Well, any venereal disease or syphilis, even.

0:48:570:49:02

Yes. One of the most common diseases, for example,

0:49:020:49:06

of people who joined the army would have course have been syphilis -

0:49:060:49:10

-it was incredibly rife.

-Oh, my god!

0:49:100:49:12

So she could have... He could, her husband could have had it.

0:49:120:49:16

Potentially. She started out taking the laudanum

0:49:160:49:19

to ameliorate some sort of pain and...

0:49:190:49:22

Yes. Let alone the state of mind.

0:49:220:49:24

So it's a combination of a great deal of things, yeah.

0:49:240:49:27

What happened to her?

0:49:270:49:29

Well, we do have this document from 1793.

0:49:290:49:34

OK.

0:49:340:49:36

Just says... This is, I think, maybe her father, has got a bill,

0:49:360:49:43

a funeral bill for Sophia.

0:49:430:49:45

Yeah.

0:49:450:49:46

So it killed her?

0:49:480:49:49

This opium and...or if it was the, you know,

0:49:500:49:54

any kind of form of syphilis or anything.

0:49:540:49:57

So she killed herself, basically. It was like a slow death.

0:49:590:50:02

"July 26th, died, 1793" -

0:50:020:50:08

so that's Sophia's date of death.

0:50:080:50:14

Is there a detail of the funeral?

0:50:150:50:19

Yes, if you turn to the next page.

0:50:190:50:21

OK.

0:50:210:50:22

Oh, my God, look at this.

0:50:220:50:23

-This is all one bill?

-Yes.

0:50:230:50:26

£316.9 shillings and threepence,

0:50:260:50:31

so that is an enormous amount of money.

0:50:310:50:34

That's thousands now, isn't it? And then it goes on.

0:50:340:50:38

For a hearse and four horses for ten days,

0:50:380:50:42

for a mourning coach and four horses.

0:50:420:50:46

I mean, this is like a state funeral with a plate, gilt plate

0:50:460:50:49

with inscription engraved.

0:50:490:50:53

That's £59, just that page.

0:50:530:50:58

And then it goes on and on.

0:50:580:51:01

Oh, it's kind of making me feel a bit ill, actually, now.

0:51:010:51:05

All the expenses of this funeral were paid by her father.

0:51:050:51:10

-He was obviously...

-Yes, they seem to have been.

0:51:100:51:13

..full of guilt and concern, but also it looks like a kind of cover

0:51:130:51:20

as well of no admittance to the life she actually led or how she died.

0:51:200:51:27

I hate the hypocrisy of it. Guilt covered up by gelt!

0:51:270:51:32

She had basically died from the poison,

0:51:370:51:41

and one could say from circumstances she had no control over,

0:51:410:51:46

so there can be no moral judgment on her.

0:51:460:51:49

It's a sad end to a girl who had made some wrong choices in her life.

0:51:490:51:55

One could also say that the expense of the funeral,

0:51:550:51:57

what the father spent on her,

0:51:570:51:59

it's like saying the final picture of this woman

0:51:590:52:03

will be a beautiful one

0:52:030:52:05

so that our family name can retain its reputation.

0:52:050:52:09

The picture of her father seems to be one of a desperate man.

0:52:130:52:16

He's covering up Sophie's life.

0:52:160:52:19

I don't know, I can sense that there's been such trouble

0:52:190:52:22

in the family that it must reflect on him.

0:52:220:52:25

I'd like to find out.

0:52:250:52:27

What an amazing place.

0:52:270:52:30

Frances is travelling to Northumberland,

0:52:300:52:33

to Seaton Delaval, the family's main residence.

0:52:330:52:37

Amazing.

0:52:370:52:38

She's come to meet Helen Berry...

0:52:450:52:48

-Hello, Frances.

-You must be Helen.

0:52:480:52:49

..an expert on the Delaval family.

0:52:490:52:52

-Nice to meet you.

-Welcome to Seaton Delaval Hall.

0:52:520:52:55

So, Frances, what I'd like to do is show you a portrait of Sophia,

0:52:550:52:59

-your ancestor.

-Yes.

0:52:590:53:01

-And she has the whole of life ahead of her.

-Yeah.

0:53:010:53:04

-It's terribly optimistic.

-I know. I think it's gorgeous.

0:53:040:53:07

-Isn't she lovely?

-And she's so sweet and seems confident, doesn't she?

0:53:070:53:12

She has a rather cheeky face, and rather sweet and young

0:53:120:53:16

and full of hope. Particularly sad, obviously,

0:53:160:53:20

when you know what happened to her life.

0:53:200:53:23

Any family resemblance, maybe, do you think?

0:53:230:53:25

Maybe in the mouth.

0:53:250:53:27

I think in the mouth, yes.

0:53:270:53:29

Well, let's go along and have a look at her famous father

0:53:290:53:31

-that you've heard a little bit about.

-Right, OK.

0:53:310:53:34

So this is actually Sir John Hussey Delaval himself. Lord Delaval.

0:53:340:53:38

I thought he'd be sterner looking

0:53:380:53:41

because that's what I'm getting from the whole drama

0:53:410:53:45

of what we've been learning about him, the family and Sophia.

0:53:450:53:50

Um, so I don't know what to think about him, really,

0:53:500:53:53

because I don't know what was in his heart,

0:53:530:53:56

and I don't know other than the obvious thing of posh families

0:53:560:54:01

covering up tragedies that don't suit their image.

0:54:010:54:08

So, yes, I'd like to see, hear more about him.

0:54:080:54:14

Well, if I tell you that he inherited this amazing house

0:54:140:54:18

in 1771, in very unusual circumstances...

0:54:180:54:21

-Oh, right, OK.

-..and he was in fact a younger son.

0:54:210:54:25

Oh, he was, yes.

0:54:250:54:27

So I want to introduce you to someone now

0:54:270:54:30

-who was actually his elder brother.

-OK.

0:54:300:54:32

-So shall we go and have a look at the portrait?

-Yes. Can't wait.

0:54:320:54:35

So, Frances, this is Sir Francis Blake Delaval,

0:54:360:54:41

the elder brother of Sir John.

0:54:410:54:44

This is a man with a story and the circumstances are very unusual.

0:54:440:54:48

So the thing about Sir Francis was he loved a party.

0:54:560:55:01

Here we are in the saloon in Seaton Delaval Hall.

0:55:010:55:04

I rather like this, yes.

0:55:040:55:05

And this of course was the venue for magnificent parties.

0:55:050:55:09

All of these parties were very costly

0:55:090:55:11

-and the money had to come from somewhere...

-Yeah.

0:55:110:55:14

..so the brother, Sir John, started to get a bit worried.

0:55:140:55:17

Also Sir Francis was a gambler. In an age when gambling was popular,

0:55:170:55:22

he really took it to the max.

0:55:220:55:24

This is a letter, and it's by Sir John Hussey Delaval,

0:55:240:55:28

and he's writing to his wife, Susannah, expressing his concern

0:55:280:55:33

about the amount of debt that his brother Sir Francis is getting into.

0:55:330:55:36

Hm-hm. "I arrived, my angel, here yesterday about three.

0:55:360:55:42

"I think it will be the means of preventing my brother's ruin

0:55:420:55:47

"as I hope we shall be able to secure him from any attempt

0:55:470:55:51

"that may be concerted against him."

0:55:510:55:54

He eventually runs up £45,000 worth of debt,

0:55:540:55:58

which is about £3.5 million in today's money.

0:55:580:56:02

Oh, my god, yes.

0:56:020:56:04

They're having to raise a huge amount of money.

0:56:040:56:07

So actually, in 1756, Sir John

0:56:070:56:10

and his siblings got up a private Act of Parliament which enabled them

0:56:100:56:15

to raise a mortgage of £45,000 to pay off Sir Francis' debts.

0:56:150:56:20

So the effect of this act is actually that Sir John is now

0:56:200:56:25

the head of the family and Sir Francis has been

0:56:250:56:28

replaced by his younger brother, and that was incredibly unusual.

0:56:280:56:33

-Yes.

-He actually succeeded in increasing the family's fortune,

0:56:330:56:37

paying off his brother's debts

0:56:370:56:39

and really setting them back on course financially.

0:56:390:56:42

-Yeah.

-He saves the day, really.

0:56:420:56:44

He does. Well, he saves his family.

0:56:440:56:47

I wonder whether that casts Sophia's funeral in a different light.

0:56:470:56:52

Yes, I never thought that he didn't care at all,

0:56:520:56:55

I just thought he did care, and he had to also be concerned

0:56:550:57:01

about the reputation of his family, which comes first, I suppose.

0:57:010:57:08

I'm trying to understand the times in which they lived

0:57:200:57:24

and what pressures that put on them,

0:57:240:57:27

and what pressures that puts on, you know, the aristocracy now.

0:57:270:57:31

But, you know, my heart doesn't lie in it

0:57:310:57:33

because it's so removed from how I live and what I believe in

0:57:330:57:39

and what family is to me,

0:57:390:57:42

because what is primary is their position in society.

0:57:420:57:47

But it's nice at least to be in touch with a part of you,

0:57:500:57:54

and particularly a part that my father was so -

0:57:540:57:57

and my grandfather - were so keen on passing down.

0:57:570:58:01

I think they were rather proud of that aristocratic background.

0:58:020:58:08

I think it's really nice to have made an entrance

0:58:110:58:14

and opened a gate into more information.

0:58:140:58:19

In other words, it isn't an end,

0:58:200:58:22

you know, the curtain hasn't come down.

0:58:220:58:24

It's like we've done an act and we've got a few more acts to go.

0:58:240:58:29

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