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Here we go. Now, this is where the red carpet begins | 0:00:00 | 0:00:04 | |
and as you can see it's treachery. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
Mind yourself. And that brings us to the backstage area. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:11 | |
This is Strictly Come Dancing Live. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
Joy of joy, my favourite thing, a feather fan. Look at that! | 0:00:15 | 0:00:21 | |
Fantastic! Showbiz everywhere and then we enter, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
and as you can see, we make our way down these wonderful stairs. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
And you can feel and breathe the electricity in the room. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
Dancer and choreographer Craig Revel Horwood is best known | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
for his straight talking as a judge on the hit TV series | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
Strictly Come Dancing. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:51 | |
..Anywhere near a four. You were mincing around that stage, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
darling, like you were in an episode of Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em. | 0:00:55 | 0:01:01 | |
Craig has lived and worked in Britain for 26 years, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
but he was born in Australia. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
His father, Phillip Revel Horwood | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
was an officer in the Australian Navy. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
My father, unfortunately, and quite sadly, died just over a year ago. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:21 | |
Now, all the questions I should have asked him | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
about our family was too late. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
It really set my mind to thinking to I'd love to know more. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:32 | |
The only thing I really know are my immediate grandparents. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:37 | |
My father's side of the family intrigued me the most | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
because I think I get a few more traits from them, | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
particularly my grandfather, Revel. And we called him Moza, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:50 | |
because he was such a character, a bit of a clown. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
And my grandmother, Phonse. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
Her real name's Phyllis, a very loving, a very quiet | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
and unassuming lady. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:00 | |
I only know that she was in an orphanage for some reason. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
I would love to know her family history. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
I often wonder because I was the only person out of my family | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
really to take up anything theatrical. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
I would love to know that there might be some entertainer | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
or something like that in my past. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
I'm hoping to find out something wonderful about my blood line. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:29 | |
Maybe they did something amazing! | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
Craig has flown to Melbourne, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
not far from his family's home in the city of Ballarat. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
He's on his way to see his mother, Bev, and sister, Sue. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
I do love Australia. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
I love coming back. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:22 | |
This is, of course, the first time that I've been to Ballarat | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
since my father died and it does evoke all the fond memories. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:32 | |
I have a wonderful sister, Sue, | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
who has always been interested in family history and tree | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
and all of that stuff. She's done a bit of digging around. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
She thinks we were related to a convict that came out from England. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:48 | |
I think she'd be really able to point me in the right direction. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
Craig, his brother and three sisters were raised in the Ballarat suburbs. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:58 | |
This is my old neighbourhood, called Brown Hill, Ballarat. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
And this is my mum's home. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
It's very sweet and very Australiana. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
I love that. I love the veranda, it's just gorgeous | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
and here we go, I'm home! | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
Knock, knock, knock. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
Coming, in coming. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:21 | |
-Who's this then? -Me. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
Hello, little brother. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
Long-lost brother. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:27 | |
-Hello. -Hello. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:28 | |
-How are you? -You look lovely. -Thank you. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
-Gorgeous. -You look lovely as well. -Gorgeous. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
-Oh, look! -The first ever show you were in. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
-Making Music. -Yeah. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
-Wow! -Making Music. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:41 | |
Wow, those tap shoes! | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
I thought I was faking the tap in that! | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
I must have learnt it! | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
I do love that shot. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
Grandad, Moza. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:51 | |
-Yes. -And our grandmother, Phyllis or Phonse, on Dad's side. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:56 | |
-Yeah. -Phonse and Moza. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:57 | |
Funny how we called them Phonse and Moza. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
-That was like a nickname. Where did that come from? -I have no clue. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
You on Phonse's lap. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:04 | |
There's me on Moza's lap, with a big finger in my mouth. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:09 | |
Nice! He was a clown, wasn't he? | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
And he loved riding his Penny Farthing. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
I know! That Penny Farthing! | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
So there's another character in the family who is our great, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
-great grandfather. -Yeah. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
Moses Horwood. He was a convict. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
One of the early convicts that came across from England. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
Interesting character. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:29 | |
Moses was having a drink at the Queen's Head Hotel in Cheltenham | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
one night with a few mates. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:34 | |
Thought he might go and steal a few things out of someone's room. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
Moses was hauled in and he was charged for burglary. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
To think that we come from convict stock! | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
How exciting's that! | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
Exciting. Absolutely! | 0:05:46 | 0:05:47 | |
Hardly royalty though, is it? | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
Have a look at this. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:50 | |
Deaths in the district of Ballarat East. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
And this is dated 1881. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
Oh, yeah, Moses Horwood. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
Look how many children he had! | 0:05:59 | 0:06:00 | |
-Wow! -But the one I want to show you is Charles. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
That is Revel's father. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
Moza's father was called Charles. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
And this is Charles. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:10 | |
He looks really dapper, doesn't he? | 0:06:12 | 0:06:13 | |
He does. It's an amazing photo. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
This is an amazing photo. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
-They look wealthy. -Does look a wealthy photo, doesn't it? | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
I mean, you don't have outfits like that if you're not wealthy. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
-No. -No. -So maybe they did well. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
Who's he married? Do we know? | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
I know he married into the Tinworth family. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
But I don't know much more about... | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
-You don't know about her. -About her. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:34 | |
So what relation are they to us? | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
-Our... -Our great grandfather and great grandmother. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
-Yeah. -It would be really interesting to know more about Charles, I think. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
I agree. Because I mean, this is quite close, isn't it? | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely! | 0:06:48 | 0:06:49 | |
Craig has discovered he's descended from an English petty criminal, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
Moses Horwood, who was transported to Australia as a convict in 1841. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:01 | |
He's intrigued by the photograph of Moses' respectable looking son, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
Charles Horwood and his wife, Craig's great grandparents. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
To find out more about them, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:16 | |
Craig's come to Ballarat's heritage reading rooms | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
to meet genealogist Helen Mollison. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
-Hello. Pleased to meet you. -Lovely to meet you too. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
Do you want to just come up here? | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
I want to know a little bit more about this man, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
who is my great grandfather, Charles. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
I don't know who he's with, mind you. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
Well, maybe if you had a look at this document here. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:40 | |
Marriages. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:41 | |
Oh, here we go. Charles Horwood, is that Lizzie Belle Tinworth. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
And that's Charles and that's Lizzie. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
-And that's Lizzie. -In that photograph. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
So, that's who he married. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:52 | |
On March 17th, 1891. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:58 | |
And then, of course, on his side is Moses Horwood and Mary Horwood, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
so they're his mum and dad. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
Her mother and father, James Tinworth and Elizabeth Tinworth. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
And they were hotel keepers. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
It was the mining era in Ballarat. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
It was just enormous. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
There were thousands of people coming and going. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
Owning a hotel was a very good occupation. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
Wow! Hotel keeper. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
I like that. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:24 | |
Craig's great grandfather Charles Horwood had married well. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
His Tinworth in-laws were running a hotel | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
at the height of Ballarat's gold rush. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
In 1851, a chance discovery of gold had brought thousands of prospectors | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
to Ballarat, all hoping to strike it rich. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
We can now look at this birth certificate. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
Oh, here we go. Lizzie. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
Her father, James Tinworth. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
Name and surname and profession of James's father, so Charles Tinworth. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:59 | |
-Labourer. -Yes. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
And something in England. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
That's Elmdon. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
Elmdon, Essex. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:06 | |
Oh, yeah, Essex. Essex! | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
Oh, no! Really? | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
-Essex? -In England. -There you are. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
In England. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:15 | |
Craig's great grandmother Lizzie Tinworth | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
was born and raised in Ballarat | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
by her hotel keeper parents James and Elizabeth. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
But James's parents, Craig's great-great-great grandparents | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
Charles and Elizabeth Tinworth came from Essex. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
But now I have no clue how or why they came here. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:41 | |
Here we are with some shipping documents that might | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
be able to help you. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
Sailed from Southampton on 5th February, 1854. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
Tinworth. Charles and Elizabeth. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
Here we are. What does that mean? | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
That's an ag-lab. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:56 | |
Which is an agricultural labourer. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
Someone that digs dirt. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
Works on farms. Works on farms. Yes. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
-OK. -Male, was 20, and the female was 24. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:10 | |
There we go across. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:11 | |
By whom engaged. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:14 | |
-Mrs Smith. -So in other words, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
who was he going to work for when he came to Australia. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For employment. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
-Employment, yes. -So they sailed from Southampton on the 5th of February. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
-Yes. -They arrived - February, March, April, May - three months later. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
Literally, almost exactly, on the 4th of May, in 1854. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:33 | |
-Yes. -And they sailed into Geelong. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
But they must have wanted to do that. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
Yes, because Australia was a new country | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
and we desperately needed people. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
The Government would pay for their fares on the ship. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
Oh, I see. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:50 | |
As well as sending convicts to Australia, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
to help build this new colony, the British tempted young couples | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
like Craig's great-great-great grandparents | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
with the offer of a free passage. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
So he came out, sort of fully paid. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
That's wonderful and got fed. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
-And got fed. -And Geelong's quite nice, isn't it? | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
And didn't have to go via Van Diemen's Land, has he? As a convict. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:18 | |
That's true. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:19 | |
That's nice to know. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
Now, this here might surprise you. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
Births in the district of Ballarat in the colony of Victoria. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
OK, Charles obviously moved to Ballarat | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
because this is where the child was born. This is a Tinworth, isn't it? | 0:11:32 | 0:11:37 | |
Edward, father. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
Charles Tinworth. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:40 | |
And Elizabeth Revel. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:43 | |
And it says Charles is 26. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
-Yes. -And a miner. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:49 | |
That is most interesting. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
So that may have been actually the driving force | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
behind the whole reason why he left Essex in the first place thinking, | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
OK, I hear there's gold, let's get a way out there, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
without having to break the law. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
That's right. He did doing the work for... | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
Doing the work for Mrs Smith. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
Perfect! Love that. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
Oh, well done him! | 0:12:11 | 0:12:12 | |
They chose to come to Australia when they were 20 and 24, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
like a young couple that decided to come and work the land. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
They moved to Ballarat for the gold rush because he became a miner. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
To find out more about Charles Tinworth's life as a miner, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
Craig's arranged to meet Dr Clare Wright, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
an expert on the gold rush in the state of Victoria. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
It's lovely to meet you. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:48 | |
Lovely to meet you, too. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
It's gorgeous up here, isn't it? | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
Isn't it beautiful, this is Black Hill. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:53 | |
Yeah. I used to come here as a kid, actually. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
The reason I'm here is because I'd like to find out a little bit more | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
information about my great-great-great grandfather | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
Charles Tinworth. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:03 | |
I can't imagine what life would have been like, actually, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
-in the gold rush. -When Charles and Elizabeth arrived here, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
they would have arrived to a tent city of about 40,000 people. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
-Wow! -So, can you imagine everybody living under canvas, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:18 | |
not just on 40 degree days with these northerly hot winds, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
but also in the freezing cold of winter. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
Snow. Well I've lived through that and I've lived through the icy, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
freezing mornings, you know, when I was doing my paper round. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
Tens of thousands of miners | 0:13:34 | 0:13:35 | |
like Craig's three-times great grandfather, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
Charles, brought their families to live in tents | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
near the Ballarat gold fields. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
Crowded together with no sanitation, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
diseases like dysentery and typhoid spread quickly. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
Charles and Elizabeth were raising their three young children | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
in these tough conditions. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:56 | |
For the families that came out here, it was incredibly difficult. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
And Elizabeth herself didn't have it easy. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
We have the hospital records. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
There's a Tinworth. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:09 | |
She's 34 years old at this stage. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
Birthplace Essex, of course. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
She's been hospitalised for a condition called menorrhagia. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:19 | |
-Menorrhagia? -Excessive menstrual bleeding. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
-Oh, no! -Which may have been actually a miscarriage. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
She was in hospital for 37 days. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
That's a long time. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
Oh, my God! That would have been awful. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
That's really sad. I mean you don't often think of that, do you? | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
You think of people striking it lucky, striking it rich. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
Great big gold nuggets, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
everyone celebrating and you forget the hardships | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
that they actually went through. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
Clare has brought Craig to an area by the Yarrowee River, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
where his three-times great grandfather used to mine. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
Watch your step! | 0:15:00 | 0:15:01 | |
Prospectors could get to work after they'd paid a licence fee to the | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
Government for what was known as their claim. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
Charles would have been entitled to a 12-foot claim. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
So it's not a large piece of land, 12 by 12. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
-No. -In terms of the kind of mining that Charles would have been doing, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
this gives a really good indication of what it would have looked like | 0:15:21 | 0:15:26 | |
on the banks of the creek. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
-But it is an awful lot of equipment. -That's right. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
So every miner would have had to purchase that equipment and | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
bring it out here. Hot, heavy, labour-intensive work. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
Not for the faint hearted. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
At the start of the Ballarat gold rush, in the 1850s, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
miners could find loose gold close to the surface | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
of river beds and creeks. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
They'd dig here, using pans and cradles | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
to separate the dirt from the precious metal. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
After all of the sand and the rock has been dislodged and poured away, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:04 | |
then what's left is... | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
-Gold! -Is those. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
-The flecks of... -The flecks of gold left at the bottom. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
Wow! It's a lot of hard work for what seems very little reward. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:18 | |
It begs the question, did Charles strike it lucky and rich? | 0:16:18 | 0:16:24 | |
Have a look here. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:25 | |
This will show you what actually happened to Charles | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
-and Elizabeth. -OK. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
Insolvency jurisdiction. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
-This is 1865. -1865. -It's a little hard to see there. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
Charles Tinworth. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
Charles is filing for bankruptcy. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
Oh, no! | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
The details actually give us a pretty good indication | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
of what's going on in Charles and Elizabeth's life | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
over that ten years. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
Grocers... Oh, that's what they owe them. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
Oh, grocery goods, 38 quid and 10. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
Butchers, 17. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
Bread, boots. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
-And this one. -Oh, dear! | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
-Medical. -Medical attendance. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
-Look at the price there. -18 quid! | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
That would have been a fortune! | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
Oh, what's that? Cash loaned. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:12 | |
-Cash lent. -Oh, God, he's borrowing cash. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
More cash. Like £10. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
Another £5. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
So, here, James Tinworth lent him £10. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:23 | |
-Oh, so James... -So this is his brother. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
-And Joseph. -Also his brother. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
Brother. So he had two brothers here in Ballarat? | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
Wow! | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
I mean, when you look at this, the whole total's £107.49. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
What on earth would that be in today's money? | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
Well, it's a lot of money. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
I mean it's roughly between £5,000-£8,000. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
Clearly he knew he had no way of being able to pay this off. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
Yeah, and then just had to go into bankruptcy. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
-And start again. -What a nightmare! | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
What on earth happened to them? | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
Charles and Elizabeth, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:01 | |
I was particularly moved by actually, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
because I thought they're real, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
what we would call here Aussie battlers. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
They really battled on and battled on | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
until they could battle no longer. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
But you know, good on them for trying. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
I think that's something to be definitely proud of | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
and something that I can relate to. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
I'm hoping there is only one way on the wheel of fortune | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
when you're down on it, and that's up. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
So, I'm hoping the next part of the story might lift me up | 0:18:27 | 0:18:32 | |
out of this little bit of glumness I feel today, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
you know, about their lives. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
After a decade searching for riches in the gold fields, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
Charles Tinworth had lost everything. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
To find out what became of his three-times great grandfather | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
after his bankruptcy, Craig has come to the old mining exchange | 0:18:50 | 0:18:55 | |
to meet historian Joan Hunt. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
-Hello. -Hello, Craig. Pleased to meet you. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
-Lovely to meet you, too. -Come with me. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
I've just recently discovered that my great-great-great grandfather, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
Charles Tinworth, and his wife, Elizabeth, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
became bankrupt after ten years, bless them, of mining. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:17 | |
I just wondered if you knew anything about that? | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
Well, I know that they became bankrupt in 1865 and, | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
you might be interested to read this follow-up. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
That was 1865. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:29 | |
So is this from Geelong Advertisers. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
Thursday, April 29th, 1869. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
"Before his honour Judge Forbes, commissioner in insolvency. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
"The following is a list of the certificate meetings. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
"William Vowles, Ballarat, Thomas Hanson, Charles Tinworth..." | 0:19:41 | 0:19:46 | |
Here we go. So, what's that mean? | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
Four years after he became insolvent... | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
-Yeah. -He has now been cleared and has a certificate. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
So he's now OK. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
Oh, that's good. So, four years later. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
-Yes. -Well, what did he do for four years? | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
We do know that the two brothers James and Joseph Tinworth | 0:20:05 | 0:20:11 | |
were with Charles and they had started mining together. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:17 | |
Interesting. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:18 | |
By the late 1860s when Charles joined forces with his brothers, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:24 | |
most of the gold near the surface | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
of the river beds around Ballarat had gone. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
Like other prospectors, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
the Tinworths had to invest in more equipment so they could mine deeper | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
into old, buried riverbeds. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
They really got to a point where the buried rivers were being depleted. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:46 | |
So it's very likely that maybe in six months or maybe next year, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
that will be pretty well worked out. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
And they're going to have no more gold. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
-What a life. -They had a lot of ups and downs. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
Yeah, they did. They really, really did. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
20 years after gold was discovered in Ballarat, the boom was over | 0:21:03 | 0:21:08 | |
and by the early 1870s, many miners had left. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
Those who stayed moved into a more dangerous and costly type of mining. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:17 | |
They wanted to get at gold buried deep in deposits of hard quartz, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
a common mineral in rocky higher ground. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
Craig wants to know if his three times great-grandfather | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
and his brothers took to this new type of mining. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
He's come to the Whitehorse Ranges on the outskirts of the city to meet | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
mining scientist Curtis Noice. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
-Hello. -Hello, Craig. -Yeah. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
-Curtis, how are you? -Curtis, lovely to meet you. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
So, I hear you're chasing some information about your family. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
Yes, I am. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
Well, actually, I've been doing some research into the area | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
and see if the Tinworths did have any success with their mining. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
This is a map just showing you | 0:21:55 | 0:21:56 | |
how much activity actually occurred underground. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
I've just seen Clarke's and Tinworth Mines, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
here in Ballarat East. That is... | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
Although not your family's, it's very close to this area. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
So it would be a very similar operation. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
That is huge. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
I mean, this is a massive progression | 0:22:13 | 0:22:14 | |
from when they first started. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
This is proper mining, isn't it? | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
-Yeah, absolutely. -Industrial. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
To get at the gold-bearing deposits of quartz, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
Charles and his brothers had to build a shaft | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
reaching hundreds of metres underground. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
They'd haul the heavy quartz to the surface | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
and crush it to extract the gold. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
So, where we stand today is actually where your forebears were. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
-Really? -And, in fact, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
I discovered a couple of depressions and I thought | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
I'd better have a closer look. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
So, there's a slight depression through this area... | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
OK. Oh, yes. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
..that had me interested. So I came looking and I actually discovered, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:58 | |
just here, a footing of what I believe to be the shaft. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:03 | |
-Wow. -It was a eureka moment. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
I noticed this tiny piece of concrete. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
And what I noticed that was different about the concrete | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
is that it's full of quartz. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
Which means it's not modern concrete. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
-So they're using the materials that are available to them. -That are available, yeah. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
-So I believe that has been put there by your family. -Wow. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
Tinworth quartz. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
-Absolutely. -I'm going to build a house out of it. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
That's amazing, actually. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:33 | |
Well done. This is a little bit of history right there. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
In fact, a huge bit of history. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
Hasn't been uncovered for years. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:40 | |
How exciting is that? | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
I'm not sure if you're aware, Craig, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:45 | |
but today we're mining directly under here. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
And if you'd like to come underground, | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
I can show you the base of this shaft. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
I'm getting goose bumps. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
I mean, this is ridiculous. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:56 | |
This is about gold mining. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
-Absolutely. -This is about mining. And I'm actually starting to... | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
-It still exists. -Wow. Underneath this now? | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
500-600 metres below the surface, we are mining today. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
That is insane. I love it. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
Curtis is taking Craig underground into a modern mine | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
to see the remains of a shaft from the 1870s. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
The Tinworth mine was only metres away from this site. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
-So, off to our left, there we have... -Wow. That is tiny. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:35 | |
-Yeah. -That is unreal. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
The shaft, you'll just see some timbers in the background there. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
-Yes, I can. -So, that's where the cage would come down with the men. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
-Oh, OK. -And because it's the sort of bottom of your work space, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
you'll have to bring out your wheelbarrows and tools for the day. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:53 | |
So, this level, and the entrance, if you are doing it | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
-with a pick and shovel... -Oh, my... | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
It's as wide as it has to be cos | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
you've got to haul all of that rock back up. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
It's laborious, isn't it? | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
I mean, they must have worked tirelessly on that. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
So, one of the risks working underground, obviously, is the collapse. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
So, while you're tunnelling away, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
they won't have all of the ground support in. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
And a number of men lost their lives. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
Oh, God. I know you hear of like old mines caving in, don't you? | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
-Yeah. -You know, when I look at that and I think that my ancestors, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:30 | |
you know, my family, were down in among that, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:35 | |
looking for a new future, you know. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
And what they were prepared to do, to get that new future is beyond me. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:44 | |
Living on a pipe dream. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
-You know, living on... -With no guarantees. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
With no guarantees. And it's just incredible. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
-It's a big commitment. -Yeah. A massive commitment. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
I mean, you're risking your life... | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
..just for a better future. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
Curtis is taking Craig a further 400 metres underground | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
where miners are still extracting gold from quartz today. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
So, this is the end of the line, it seems. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
That's right. You'll see that the grey rock is waste. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
-Waste. -The white is the quartz which is what hosts the gold. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
But all quartz doesn't have gold in it. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
See, that's the big shame, isn't it? | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
That's right. If it was easy, everybody would be doing it. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
That's right. So what did they do in the old days, then? | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
So to reduce your work effort, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
they'd be chasing what was often referred to as an indicator. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
In fact Charles' son Edward was looking at minerals quite closely | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
and trying to identify the correlation between certain minerals | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
in the rock and the gold-bearing quartz. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
It's amazing. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:51 | |
By the time he had moved into deep mining, Charles Tinworth | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
had spent 20 years searching for gold. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
His sons had joined him in this risky business | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
and Craig wants to know if the struggle ever paid off. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
He's come to Ballarat's Gold Museum to meet historian Jan Croggin. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:13 | |
My great-great-great-grandfather's son, Edward, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:18 | |
discovered some sort of mineral way of finding quartz and gold | 0:27:18 | 0:27:23 | |
and mining it. I was just wondering whether or not, number one, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
he was successful at it. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
And how he went about it. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
Edward Tinworth, son of Charles, your great-great-great-grandfather, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
is actually responsible for one of the things that made it possible to | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
make a lot of money. He was only 13 years old. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
He worked out that if you could find where the quartz intersected | 0:27:42 | 0:27:47 | |
with slate, you've found a lot of nuggety gold. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
Now that became more or less a rule. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
-You've probably heard of the indicator. -Yeah, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
I've heard the word but I've never fully understood it. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
Edward Tinworth found the indicator for the Ballarat East Goldfield. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
-Wow. -So that's pretty exciting. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
It is. That's an upturn, I can tell you. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
I've been in the doldrums, darling, you know, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
-and then they come up with it. That's brilliant. -They did. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
Oh, that's exciting. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:12 | |
And, of course, the second question you asked me was, was it helpful. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
Have a look at that. And see what you think. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
It's a geological survey of Victoria. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
Oh, I see. List of nuggets found in Victoria. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
Ah, here we go. Tinworth's party and that was from the indicator. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
-And how much did it weigh? -This was in 1880. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
And it weighed about... | 0:28:31 | 0:28:32 | |
-250. -250 ounces. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
-That's huge. -Yeah. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:36 | |
-It is huge. -How much was that actually worth? | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
-On today's prices, it would be £1,000 an ounce. -Wow. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:43 | |
So that's £250,000. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
A quarter of a million... | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
-Pounds. -Oh, that's brilliant. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
They must have absolutely been delighted. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
I mean, they'd been through so much hardship. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
I mean, to finally win the lottery. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
If you'd like an indication of what a nugget might have looked like... | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
Yeah, I would love that. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:02 | |
-We can show you. This is a bit special. -You're kidding. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
-Would you like to...? -Yeah, I want to hold it. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
Of course I do. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:09 | |
This nugget...have a feel. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
29 ounces. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:12 | |
That is really, really heavy. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
It's amazing. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
It's gorgeous, isn't it? | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
The one that Tinworth found, the 250-ounce nugget, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
is about nine times bigger than that nugget. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
I mean, the stuff that dreams are made of, isn't it? | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
-Absolutely. -Seriously. Obviously they must have gone on, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
and were finding nuggets and all of that stuff | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
but please don't tell me it all ends in disaster. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
My stomach couldn't take it, darling. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
My heart couldn't take it. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
-What happened next? -If I could put before you this... | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
The last will and Testament of Charles Tinworth. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:46 | |
"The said Charles Tinworth had at the time of his death real property | 0:29:46 | 0:29:51 | |
"in the state of Victoria not exceeding in value | 0:29:51 | 0:29:57 | |
"the sum of £7,820. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
"And personal property in the said state | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
"not exceeding in value the sum of £13,615." | 0:30:02 | 0:30:08 | |
So around £21,000, on current prices today, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
probably £1.5 million. So he died a wealthy man. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
-And if you read... -A millionaire. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
-That's right. -Well done, him. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
-Next question. -Yeah, what did they do with it? | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
What did they do with it? If I can find you, can you read that | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
where it starts there? | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
"And I also give and bequeath the sum of £300 to each of my grandsons, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:36 | |
"James Tinworth and William Tinworth." | 0:30:36 | 0:30:41 | |
The important bit is here. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:42 | |
"Son of my late son James." | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
-Yeah. -What happened to that? | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
-He died before? -Yeah. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
You're absolutely right. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:51 | |
Well, that's...that is a huge shock. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
Yeah. It is. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
His son died before him. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:57 | |
Craig's great-great-grandfather James died from kidney failure | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
when he was just 48 years old. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
His father Charles, who outlived him, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
left his huge fortune to the remaining living children. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
He also left money to James's sons, but not his daughters, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:18 | |
including Lizzie, Craig's great-grandmother. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
The thing that sticks out in my mind at this juncture is the fact that | 0:31:25 | 0:31:29 | |
Charles in his will left the money only to the boys. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:35 | |
The grandsons in the family, not the granddaughters. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:40 | |
One of which, of course, is my relative, Lizzie. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
That's right, yeah. Your family didn't inherit the Tinworth fortune. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
-Yeah, the Tinworth huge wealth... -Damn! -..and fortune. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:53 | |
So...what a shame. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
That's just truly unbelievable, isn't it? | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
It's a really sad twist of fate. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
Wow. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:02 | |
And particularly sad because we have discovered that the Tinworth mine, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
between 1871 and 1909, when they closed it down, | 0:32:08 | 0:32:13 | |
they actually found 30,000 ounces of gold, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
which would be roughly worth, on current prices, about £30 million. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:22 | |
So...yeah. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:26 | |
Lizzie! | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
Don't you just hate history. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:29 | |
Pretty disappointing. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:32 | |
No, it's great, it's amazing, really, it's amazing. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
It does make me wonder what my father, who recently died, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:50 | |
may think of this journey, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
because I'm sure he knew nothing about all of this. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
The idea that Charles Tinworth had 20 years | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
before he really achieved his dream | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
was showing great determination and great human nature | 0:33:05 | 0:33:12 | |
and that's what I love. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:13 | |
And my dad, I think, would be so proud of his forefather | 0:33:15 | 0:33:20 | |
in that way too. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
I just wish that he was here now to see all of this, you know. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
That would be good. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
I think it's time to actually find out | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
about my grandmother's side of the family. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
I called her Phonse. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
I don't ever really get to see my grandmother that much. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
Last time I saw her was literally four years ago. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
And since then, my father has died, of course, her son, | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
so she's probably been dealing with that. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
I can't wait. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
Craig is flying 2,000 miles west across Australia | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
to see his grandmother, Phyllis, | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
known in the family as Phonse, who lives in Perth. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
Phonse turned 100 last month. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
I mean she was born in what, 1917, for goodness' sake. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
Which is just outrageous. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
I really know very little about my grandmother's upbringing. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
The only thing I really know is that she was in an orphanage. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:39 | |
Phyllis lives with her grandson, Craig's cousin Logan. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
DOORBELL RINGS | 0:34:51 | 0:34:52 | |
Hello. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:56 | |
-Come in. How are you? -Logan! -Come on in. -So good to see you. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
How lovely, long time, eh, come in. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
-You're looking well. -Thank you. And you. -Gorgeous. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
-Come in. -Oh, look, here we are. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
It's been ages since I've been here. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
-Couple of years, I think. -Oh, it's the Queen Mother herself, darling. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:17 | |
Sure. Let me bow down before you. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
Oh, thank you, darling. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
-How are you? -How are you? | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
Oh, isn't it lovely to see you? | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
It's lovely. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:31 | |
You look fantastic. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
-Thank you. -It's lovely to be here. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
I'm glad you could come. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
I believe you got a little card from the Queen herself. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:43 | |
I sure did, would you like me to show you? | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
I would love it. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:47 | |
Have a look at that. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
Wow. "Mrs Horwood, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
"I'm pleased to hear that you are celebrating your 100th birthday. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
"My sincere congratulations and best wishes | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
"on this very special day. Elizabeth." | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
Ah, how fantastic. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
-It's beautiful. -So, Phonse, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
I haven't, over the years, asked you much about your life. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
Your roots. I don't know whether you have any photographs of your | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
-mum and dad, by any chance? -I've just got one. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
And here it is. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:24 | |
It's a beautiful photo of them. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
That's my mum and dad. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
-Ah. -That's Julia and that's Harry. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
She was gorgeous. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:35 | |
-She was. -He is very striking as well, isn't he? | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
Really square jaw line. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
-Wow. -Strong-looking man... -Yeah, he looks like a rugby player. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
My mother, I was there the day she died. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:50 | |
She had the baby at nine o'clock and that was it. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
Your mum died in childbirth, was it? | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
She died with childbirth. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
-Nine children. -Boy! | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
And she died at 40. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
When my mother died, I think they all got together, and I thought, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:08 | |
they decided what they were going to do. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
After a big discussion, they decided they'd take us to Emmaville. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:15 | |
Went to the aunties and the uncles and they had us for about a month | 0:37:15 | 0:37:21 | |
and I suppose we got too much for them. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
And so what did they decide? | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
They decided to put us in the orphanage. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
What was life like at the orphanage that you can remember? | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
It was rigid, it was regimental, but glory be, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:39 | |
Christmas Day was the best day of the lot. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
Christmas Day. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
It was the same routine, up at six o'clock in the morning, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
and down to Mass at seven. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:50 | |
You come out into the dining room for breakfast. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
There on your plate was one sausage. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
One sausage, believe it or not. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
You could pick it up in your fingers, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
and you could sit and eat this sausage. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
Isn't that incredible? | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
What a fantastic story. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
It was unbelievable. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
They fed us, they clothed us and they educated us. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
What more could we ask? | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
-Yeah. -And that was because your dad couldn't do that for you? | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
That's because my dad couldn't do it. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
-No. -He would never have been able to have looked after all of us. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:34 | |
Is there any more information that you have about your dad? | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
I've got his birth certificate. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
-Wow! -If that would be of any help to you. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
Yeah, come on. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
OK, here we go. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
-October 5th. -Is that 91? | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
-1871. -71. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:48 | |
At Clarevale Station near Emmaville. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
On a station? He was born on a station? | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
What, a platform? | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
No, no, a sheep station! | 0:38:58 | 0:38:59 | |
Made Phonse laugh! | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
-So where they run the livestock. -OK. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
There is the father's name, occupation, age and birthplace. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
You've got that. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
Harry. Harry Shaw, 31 years... | 0:39:10 | 0:39:15 | |
Ashton-under-Lyne, England. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
Ashton-under-Lyne. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
England? British too! | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
Ashton-under-Lyne had a big industry of cotton mills, | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
and that's originally where he worked. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
Wow! So, OK... | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
I would love to know what you might remember about your grandfather, | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
-Harry Shaw. -I might have a photo of him. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:42 | |
That's him. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
-This is Harry. -Yeah. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
That's my grandfather, but I don't remember him at all. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
Do you know anything about Harry? | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
Well, he worked all around the north New South Wales area, | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
and obviously around this station where his son was born, this Harry. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
He was referred to as Harry Macklin Shaw. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
Amazing. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
Well, that's exciting, isn't it? | 0:40:07 | 0:40:08 | |
It's very exciting. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:09 | |
-Thank you. -That's all right. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
Thank you. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
Craig's discovered that his great-great-grandfather | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
Harry Macklin Shaw was another Englishman, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
from the cotton mill town of Ashton-under-Lyne, | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
who came to Australia to work on a sheep station in New South Wales. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
Today I have embarked on a whole new family once again. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
I mean, it's just brilliant, absolutely brilliant. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
I was really surprised to find that my grandmother's side of the family, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
the Shaw side of the family, came from north-west England, | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
up near Manchester. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:54 | |
Harry Macklin Shaw, my great-great-grandfather, | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
was living in the north of New South Wales. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
I mean, I've never been there. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:04 | |
Craig's travelling back to the east of Australia, to Glen Innes, | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
the place where his great-great-grandfather | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
Harry Macklin Shaw settled. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:18 | |
He's come to the sheep station where Harry used to work. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
Local historian Bill Oates has been looking into Harry's life here. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
-Good morning, Craig. -Good morning, Bill. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
I'd like to know about this man, who was my great-great-grandfather, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
who came out from Greater Manchester, | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
and his name is Harry Macklin Shaw. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
Harry came out to Australia following his brother, William, | 0:41:49 | 0:41:54 | |
who'd arrived in the colony sometime earlier. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
-Oh, OK. -There was a shortage of labour up here, | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
whereas the mills were struggling in England at that time. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
So, there were many people making similar decisions. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
-Right. -I have got a photo here from the early days. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
-I'll be needing these! -Clarevale was a head station, | 0:42:08 | 0:42:13 | |
it would have been over 50,000 acres at this stage there, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
and they would have run about 20,000 sheep. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
That's big, isn't it, really? | 0:42:18 | 0:42:19 | |
It is, and they're communities in themselves. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
I can imagine it would be quite a tough life. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
It would be a tough life. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
It's also interesting to note | 0:42:26 | 0:42:27 | |
that there's still a pretty good social life | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
that goes around here as well. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:31 | |
-OK. -Probably a good time to show you this one here. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
Oh, the Oddfellows' Ball. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
This is from the Glen Innes Examiner, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
Tuesday, November 23rd, 1880. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
"The Oddfellows gave a grand ball in Ezzy's large hall in the evening, | 0:42:44 | 0:42:49 | |
"at which there were about 70 couple present." | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
That's quite a lot of couples, isn't it? | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
-It is. -For a little ball. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:55 | |
-Yeah. -"The Glen Innes String Band presided, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:59 | |
"and discoursed some very sweet music. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
"We were greatly struck with the uniform manner | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
"in which everything in connection with this ball was carried out, | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
"which was certainly due to the untiring energies of Mr H Shaw, | 0:43:08 | 0:43:13 | |
"who officiated as MC. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
"Dancing was kept up till daylight." | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
He was an MC, a master of ceremonies! | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
If you're going to have a party, you've got to have it running till daylight! | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
Well, you do, don't you, I suppose? | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
That was brilliant! | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
Wow! So he was MC-ing this whole thing, | 0:43:28 | 0:43:30 | |
so he was obviously some sort of out there type performer, in a way. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:36 | |
-Yes. -Well, had a personality that could sustain that, for a community. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:41 | |
-That shows through. -Yeah! | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
When you consider someone that's a labourer, | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
you wouldn't think that there's going to be... | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
There's no business like show business! | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
But, if you consider that he was master of ceremonies | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
at local dances, he had to have some sort of showman in him. | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
And he must have had a little bit of chutzpah and verve, | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
and that's what I love. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:06 | |
Craig wants to find out more about his extrovert | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
great-great-grandfather, Harry. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
He's come to Glen Innes's History House to meet archivist Eve Chapel. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:20 | |
Craig, Eve Chapel. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:22 | |
Hi, lovely to meet you. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:23 | |
Now, Eve, I was just wondering about my great-great-grandfather | 0:44:24 | 0:44:28 | |
Harry Macklin Shaw, and whether or not you had any other information | 0:44:28 | 0:44:33 | |
-on him at all? -We do have. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:34 | |
Have a look at that article there, "Good Templary at Vegetable Creek." | 0:44:40 | 0:44:45 | |
"The annual anniversary of the Nil Desperandum lodge..." | 0:44:45 | 0:44:50 | |
OK. "..The singing and recitations were not up to expectations | 0:44:50 | 0:44:55 | |
"owing to some imperfections in the stage fittings." | 0:44:55 | 0:44:59 | |
Everyone's a critic, darling! | 0:45:00 | 0:45:02 | |
Everyone's a critic. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:03 | |
"Harry Shaw's step dancing..." | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
Oh, step dancing! | 0:45:06 | 0:45:07 | |
"... And recitation were well rendered." | 0:45:07 | 0:45:09 | |
-So he was dancing a bit, and acting a bit. -Yes. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
And reciting. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:14 | |
Yeah, and reciting stuff. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:16 | |
"Dancing was indulged in until the early hours of the morning." | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
He has a reputation for that, because I read a little bit where, | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
you know, he was MC-ing a ball, and it closed at sunrise, you know. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:30 | |
You can see he's one of these people who's right in with his community. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:34 | |
-Yes. -And he's going to enjoy himself. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
How fantastic. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:37 | |
There's more. This is 1877. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:41 | |
"A very acceptable performance was given to this club | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
"on Wednesday evening last at the Royal Assembly Rooms. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:51 | |
"These clever performers sang a number of songs | 0:45:51 | 0:45:55 | |
"in a creditable manner. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:57 | |
"The ex-champion clog dancer of New South Wales..." | 0:45:57 | 0:46:00 | |
No! | 0:46:00 | 0:46:01 | |
"... Mr H Shaw." | 0:46:01 | 0:46:03 | |
An ex-champion clog dancer! | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
You've got somebody famous in your family! | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
That's hilarious! Clog dancing! | 0:46:10 | 0:46:13 | |
That is brilliant. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:14 | |
Clog dancing was a hugely popular pastime | 0:46:16 | 0:46:18 | |
in late 19th-century Australia. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:20 | |
A forerunner of modern tap dancing, performers wore wooden soled shoes | 0:46:22 | 0:46:27 | |
and tapped out steps in complex rhythms. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
I never really considered anyone in my family to be part of theatre, | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
at all. So this is finally ringing some bells, darling. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:42 | |
We're loving that! | 0:46:42 | 0:46:43 | |
I'm really intrigued about old Harry getting his clogs | 0:46:53 | 0:46:58 | |
out and dancing around. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
And I just found it really fascinating | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
that there is finally some theatricality in my blood. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:11 | |
Craig knows that his great-great-grandfather | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
danced in Emmaville. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:18 | |
He's been put in touch with local historian Anne Fairbanks. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
Hello, you must be Anne. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:25 | |
I am. Hello, Craig and welcome to Emmaville. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
Oh, lovely. This is lovely, isn't it? | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
Sweet little town. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
I'm here to actually find out a little bit more about my | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
great-great-grandfather Harry, | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
and I thought I had to absolutely come here to see where he performed. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:44 | |
-You may be interested in this little bit. -Oh, the Sydney Morning Herald. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:50 | |
That's a big old paper, isn't it, darling? | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
-That's like a proper one. -Yes. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:53 | |
"Challenge. I, Harry Macklin, am open to dance any man in Australia | 0:47:53 | 0:48:00 | |
"at Hornpipe Dancing for 20 quid - | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
"which dances the most steps, dances them the cleanest | 0:48:04 | 0:48:09 | |
"and keeps the best time. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:11 | |
"Man and money ready at Westmoreland Street, Forest Lodge." | 0:48:11 | 0:48:16 | |
Wow. So is this like an advertisement? | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
-Yes. He's challenging... -He's actually challenging someone. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:22 | |
Challenging people for 20 quid. That's quite a lot of money back then, isn't it? | 0:48:22 | 0:48:25 | |
And this is 1871. You know, 20 quid back then was about a thousand dollars. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:29 | |
-Yeah, that's a lot. -That's a lot of money. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:31 | |
I just can't imagine putting an ad in, "I will dance! | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
"I'm open to dance any man in Australia at Hornpipe Dancing." | 0:48:34 | 0:48:38 | |
But who's judging him? This is the thing. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
He's probably going to judge himself. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
Yeah, but he must be! "Man and money ready". | 0:48:42 | 0:48:44 | |
-That is brilliant. -It's good, isn't it? | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
I mean, he's really throwing it out there, isn't he, to make money? | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
But not only that, to get to Sydney from here, | 0:48:49 | 0:48:52 | |
he would have had to travel overland to Grafton, | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
which would have taken three or four days by horse, | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
and then from Grafton he would have gone to the coast | 0:48:57 | 0:49:01 | |
-and caught a steamer to Sydney. -Yeah. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:03 | |
Just to go down there to perform. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:05 | |
-That is amazing. -I have another little one here too. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:08 | |
-Have a look at the date. -Friday January 26, 1872. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
-Which we know is Australia Day. -Yeah, Australia Day. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
So he's hopped off to Sydney for Australia Day. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:16 | |
"At half past four o'clock, | 0:49:16 | 0:49:18 | |
"the champion clog dancer Harry Macklin in his celebrated dances." | 0:49:18 | 0:49:22 | |
It's just insane! | 0:49:24 | 0:49:26 | |
It gets even better, Craig. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
Now have a look at this. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:30 | |
That building there is the one that he performed at on Australia Day. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:34 | |
It actually made the London News. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
So the rellies back home could see how well he was doing. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:40 | |
Did he tell the relatives back there "Oh, I'm going to | 0:49:41 | 0:49:45 | |
"be a champion clog dancer and I'm going to be performing | 0:49:45 | 0:49:48 | |
"almost equivalent to the opera house?" | 0:49:48 | 0:49:50 | |
He probably sent that when he left home. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:51 | |
-He said, "You'll be hearing about me." -That is amazing. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:55 | |
I mean, to think actually how on earth | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
he learnt any of that is beyond me. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
You know, to become the New South Wales champion for clogging | 0:50:01 | 0:50:05 | |
is just insane. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:06 | |
What I find interesting in the parallel that I can draw | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
is he moved from this really sleepy town of Emmaville, | 0:50:18 | 0:50:22 | |
he went to the big smoke to make it. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:24 | |
That was Sydney of course and I was in Ballarat | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
and I moved to what I call the big smoke, which was Melbourne. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:30 | |
So to think that my great-great-grandfather | 0:50:31 | 0:50:35 | |
has done the same thing is just madness! | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
I can't get my head round it just yet. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
I really need to go to Sydney to find out a lot more about him. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:46 | |
Craig's retracing his great-great-grandfather's journey | 0:50:50 | 0:50:54 | |
to Sydney to try to find out how Harry became | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
such an accomplished clog dancer. | 0:50:56 | 0:50:58 | |
Craig's come to meet music and dance expert Heather Clark. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:08 | |
-Hello. -Hello! | 0:51:08 | 0:51:09 | |
You must be Heather. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:11 | |
Yes, you must be Craig. Lovely to meet you. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:13 | |
-I am indeed. Lovely to meet you too. Have a seat. -Oh, thank you. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:16 | |
I have come all the way to Sydney to discover a little bit more about my | 0:51:18 | 0:51:22 | |
great-great-grandfather Harry Macklin Shaw, | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
who I have discovered became a bit of a clog dancer. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:29 | |
And I'm just thinking where on earth would he learn it? | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
Where would he practise it? And all of those sort of things. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
Clog dancing developed in the north of England. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:41 | |
The story is that they mimicked | 0:51:41 | 0:51:43 | |
the rhythms that the machines were making. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:47 | |
That makes sense. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:48 | |
Cotton mill workers wore wooden sod clogs | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
because of the damp mill floors. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
The rhythms they tapped started as a way to keep warm | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
but developed into a popular new style of dance. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
When he came to Australia, | 0:52:03 | 0:52:04 | |
he still would have been in a community | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
where people were dancing and he would have picked up more steps. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:11 | |
You know, you see a step you like and go "Oh, I'll have that one." | 0:52:11 | 0:52:14 | |
-Yeah, that's true. -Yeah. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:15 | |
You know, you sort of build on it and there's also accounts of | 0:52:15 | 0:52:20 | |
people like shearers and miners, | 0:52:20 | 0:52:23 | |
they would take a little board with them | 0:52:23 | 0:52:25 | |
so when they had a break at lunch time or whatever, | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
they would practise their steps. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:29 | |
They're not set routines. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:31 | |
Well you improvise, don't you? | 0:52:31 | 0:52:33 | |
Like they did, I suppose, on the streets of New York. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
The tap dancing. You put a board down, you get your taps out... | 0:52:36 | 0:52:38 | |
That's exactly the same tradition. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:40 | |
I have heard references, of course, to Harry, you know, | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
that he became New South Wales champion. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
I actually have something here which is hugely significant, | 0:52:46 | 0:52:51 | |
not just in your family but in Australian dance history as well. | 0:52:51 | 0:52:56 | |
Darling. | 0:52:57 | 0:52:59 | |
I need my glasses. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
What's this? | 0:53:02 | 0:53:03 | |
"Born 5th of July, 1840. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:09 | |
"Oh, Ashton-under-Lyne." | 0:53:09 | 0:53:10 | |
Yes. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:12 | |
"Harry M Shaw, champion of Australia." | 0:53:12 | 0:53:17 | |
-Is that Australasia? -Yes. -Australasia? | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
-Wow. Clog dancing. -Mm, so he must have been fabulous. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
This is the 5th of October 1871. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
Wow. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
That is extraordinary! | 0:53:30 | 0:53:31 | |
That is something, isn't it? | 0:53:33 | 0:53:35 | |
-It is. -That is amazing! | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
It is. It's fabulous, isn't it? | 0:53:37 | 0:53:40 | |
It's incredible! | 0:53:40 | 0:53:41 | |
I had absolutely no clue whatsoever. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:46 | |
That is a little gem of histoire right there... | 0:53:46 | 0:53:52 | |
in my hands. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:53 | |
That makes it all real actually. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:54 | |
-It does. -It really does. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:56 | |
Oh, I want to learn clog dancing. | 0:53:56 | 0:53:58 | |
Well, I can help you there. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:01 | |
Oh, no. Are we going clogging, darling? | 0:54:01 | 0:54:04 | |
-Yes. -How excellent. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:06 | |
Well, I can't guarantee I'm going to be any good at it | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
-but we'll have a go. -Well... -How exciting. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
Come over this way. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:13 | |
Now what I have here for you are a lovely, lovely pair of clogs. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:20 | |
Oh, they're a bit special. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:23 | |
-There's not a lot of movement in those. -No. Really solid. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:27 | |
I'll sling them on. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:34 | |
They are solid as... | 0:54:35 | 0:54:37 | |
Not only are we going to dance but we're going to dance to live music. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
-Wow. -So here they come. | 0:54:42 | 0:54:44 | |
Oh, no, here they come. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:46 | |
So if you were competing, | 0:54:48 | 0:54:50 | |
you'd probably stand with your back to your musicians. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
So it's the break. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:55 | |
It goes step, shuffle, step, step, shuffle... | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
Step, shuffle. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
Yep, that's it. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
Break. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:04 | |
Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah. And then to the break. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:09 | |
HE SINGS A TUNE | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
-Shall we give it a bash? -OK. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
Oh, dear. This is like throwing me one, isn't it? | 0:55:15 | 0:55:19 | |
On the spot. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:21 | |
OK. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:23 | |
Break. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:27 | |
Oh, that's the break. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:29 | |
OK, try it again. That was terrible. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:32 | |
So I'll just copy you. And I'll fudge it to the end. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:37 | |
I'm sure you're very good at that. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:39 | |
Yeah, good at fudging. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:40 | |
Good. Well done. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
-Nailed, darling! -Yeah. Plenty of nails in there. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
These hurt! | 0:56:17 | 0:56:18 | |
-Thank you, darling. -That was fabulous. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
I'll practise that. I'll take these away. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:23 | |
-Yes, they're yours! -Oh! | 0:56:23 | 0:56:24 | |
It was just brilliant to see Harry Shaw, you know, | 0:56:38 | 0:56:44 | |
take that crown for Australasia clog dancing. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:47 | |
I mean, who would have ever dreamt it? | 0:56:47 | 0:56:50 | |
And I'm so proud that he made something of himself. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:54 | |
Harry and Charles Tinworth, two men - very, very driven, | 0:56:54 | 0:56:59 | |
two very powerful men, in a way, that went against all adversity | 0:56:59 | 0:57:04 | |
and really came out on top. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:06 | |
I started feeling strongly that I was very much like them. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:12 | |
I wanted to follow my heart, my passion, my dreams of dance, | 0:57:13 | 0:57:17 | |
and it's just amazing to know that that actually runs in the family | 0:57:17 | 0:57:22 | |
and in the blood. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:23 | |
Cos it really has put a new twist on who I think I am. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:29 |