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If you care to look at my wardrobe, most of it is 25 years old. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:08 | |
This was given to me by Angie when she went to Spain the first time. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
Though, Dot, she only wears it for special occasions. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
84-year-old actress June Brown has been a British cultural icon for decades... | 0:00:15 | 0:00:20 | |
You can see all the brooches. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
..Playing the indomitable Dot Cotton in the BBC soap EastEnders. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
It shouldn't really be too co-ordinated, cos she gets the colours slightly wrong. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
Many find it difficult to distinguish June from the part she plays. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
I think they think I'm very like Dot. A lot of people call me Dot. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
I'm always delighted when they call me June. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
There's a negligee. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
SHE CHUCKLES | 0:00:42 | 0:00:43 | |
Well covered up. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
I am the oldest person who has ever done Who Do You Think You Are? | 0:00:45 | 0:00:50 | |
June married at 23 and by the age of 30 was widowed after her husband's suicide. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:57 | |
She continued her acting career | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
and in 1958 married for a second time, to actor Robert Arnold. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:05 | |
They had six children, losing one as a baby. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
In 2003, after 45 years of marriage, June was widowed again. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:18 | |
I'm not a person who can cry. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
I think I've sort of worked my emotions out, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
so I don't EXPECT to weep, although I will have some waterproof mascara, but I don't THINK I will. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:32 | |
June knows she has East End Jewish roots. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:37 | |
Now she wants to see whether these spread any further | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
than the laundrette she's inhabited professionally for more than 20 years. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
I've never really felt like an EastEnder, I knew my mother was. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:50 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:01:51 | 0:01:52 | |
I don't think we'll find any royal blood, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
any blue blood flowing in our veins but who cares, we're all people. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
Well, I'm going to have a wine glass, yeah. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
So did you want some? | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
Where's the champagne? | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
'I was born in 1927. We had no television, telephones or cars.' | 0:02:40 | 0:02:47 | |
'It was a lovely life. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
'It's a different world from ours.' | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
At the age of 84, June feels that this is her last chance to discover if she's a real EastEnder. | 0:02:54 | 0:03:00 | |
Smile. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:01 | |
Before she begins, her family has gathered at her Surrey home to send her off in style. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:09 | |
-Cheers, cheers. -I've already drunk mine. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
June was born in Suffolk, one of five children. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
Her parents, Louisa and Henry both came from London's East End. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:28 | |
Scottish grandfather, Italian grandmother... | 0:03:31 | 0:03:36 | |
er, Irish grandfather. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
Like a mongrel, I'm not truly English, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
I'm not truly anything as far as I know, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
'but I know I'm Jewish, through my mother's line.' | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
It's her mother's Jewish East End heritage June wants to investigate. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
-I'm not married. -That is my mother, and my mother was 35 for years | 0:03:51 | 0:03:56 | |
and then she got fed up with being 35 and suddenly said, "Oh, I'm 50." | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
When I was first in EastEnders, they said, "47-year-old June Brown", | 0:04:00 | 0:04:06 | |
Well, I was 58. I said... | 0:04:06 | 0:04:07 | |
-We laughed at that! -"If they want to think I'm 47, let them." | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
I thought, "I'm not going to say any different." | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
Did we laugh at that? You might have done, I didn't, I was delighted. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
As the Matriarch, she is the keeper of the family history, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:24 | |
and over the years has collected together an archive of photographs and stories. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:29 | |
That was 1967, your father was quite famous at the time, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:34 | |
as PC Swain in Dixon of Dock Green. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
Is this you here? | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
That is me as a bridesmaid in green satin. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
This is the wedding of my auntie Marie. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
They all, they lived in the East End. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
All of those are Jewish cousins. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
My mother said, and I might be completely wrong, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
but my mother did say we had a champion bare knuckle fighter, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
and he was in the East End, of course. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
-What was the fighter's name? -His name was Isaac Bitton | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
I don't know where Bitton comes from, it doesn't sound Jewish. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
It would be nice to find out a bit more about him. Well, I'd like to find out more about him. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
-I wouldn't know. -Did he have money? -Well, I should think so. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
-Well, it would be quite interesting. -..To follow that. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
It's all my mother, the Jewish side, it's Granny. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
June's family archive includes a document that proves she's a direct descendant from Isaac Bitton. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:43 | |
My mother was born in the Mile End Road, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
she mentioned this famous bare knuckle fighter in the East End | 0:05:47 | 0:05:53 | |
and I'd like to find out more about Isaac Bitton, if I can. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
Family research has managed to trace back | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
as far as June's great, great, great grandfather, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
the bare knuckle boxer Isaac Bitton, born in 1779. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:11 | |
Now June is hoping that Isaac, the legendary fighter, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
will help her travel further back into her East End past. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
I'm a very curious person, I like to know everything, really. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
I don't care what I find out, as long as I find out. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:32 | |
-Would you be Michael Berkowitz? -Yes, I am. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
-My name is June Brown, -Pleasure meeting you. -Thank you so much. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
Historian Michael Berkowitz is an expert on Jewish London, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
and the early years of British boxing. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
And here we have Isaac Bitton. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
Your great, great, great grandfather. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
He was a big personality, a real EastEnder. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:03 | |
Yeah, but look at the little dancing feet. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
They remind me a bit of you know, dance like a butterfly. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
It looks like he has quite strong legs. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
He was known for being undefeated, an extremely powerful fighter. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
In the early 19th century, Isaac Bitton lived in London's growing Jewish community in the East End, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:27 | |
an area that for century's had been home to those on the social margins. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:32 | |
The blood thirsty sport of bare knuckle fighting was at the height of its popularity. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:41 | |
Few rules existed, and audiences were entertained by bouts that could continue for hours. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:47 | |
With no limit to the number of rounds, the winner was only decided | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
when his opponent could no longer stand and fight. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
For men like Isaac, the sport provided one of the few paths to fame and fortune. | 0:07:55 | 0:08:00 | |
One of the things that is very interesting is | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
not only were Jews involved, who were pretty marginal in society. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
-Exactly. -But also Irish and blacks. -Yeah. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
And one of the things that boxers consider very special is that, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
although it's a very brutal world, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
that they treated each other with more respect | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
and more dignity, than they would be accorded in the wider society. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:24 | |
If you could take a look, there was a paragraph down here that I've marked. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
"One thing at all events is certain, he was a Jew, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
"that was unmistakably... stamped upon his physiogomy. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:39 | |
"The hook nose, the thick lips, the swarthy complexion, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:44 | |
"the curly black hair and piecing black eyes. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
"Every traditional feature of the Jewish face was there in most marked and pronounced characters." | 0:08:48 | 0:08:54 | |
So they're talking about the racial characteristics, which is completely wrong, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
but he had no problem showing himself as a very, almost stereotypically, um, Jewish Jew. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:06 | |
I think this is part of his personality and part of the magnetism. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
He was very comfortable, although he had a lot of it, He was very comfortable in his own skin. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:15 | |
-You mean he was fat? -Yes, he was fat, but agile. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
The sport of bare knuckle boxing was illegal. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
Fights were arranged covertly, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
many taking place on London's Commons, far from the attention of the police. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:31 | |
But attending the fights had become a fashionable past-time. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
The cream of society enjoyed mixing with London's underworld. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:40 | |
Though most of the boxers themselves saw little profit from the fights, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
vast sums were won and lost by the wealthy audiences betting on the outcome. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:49 | |
A fighter like Isaac Bitton would have been lauded by his aristocratic audiences. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:55 | |
The fights were incredibly popular and they could have hundreds, if not thousands of spectators, | 0:09:56 | 0:10:02 | |
even Byron was a great patron, so he knew a lot of these very important people of his time. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:08 | |
He was identified, very consistently, as sort of one of the great figures of the East End. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:15 | |
Actually we've got a rather special publication here, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
called Pugilistica, it's just over a little 100 years old. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
If I could have you read toward the end... | 0:10:23 | 0:10:28 | |
(This is fun!) | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
"Isaac Bitton, a Jew of great strength, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
"was well known for more than 30 years | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
"to the ring-going world of the last generations." | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
"His draw with Maddox deserves preservation | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
"and for these reasons we've given the ponderous Isaac..." | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
Ponderous! "..a niche in our history." | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
It's a fight that lasts 74 rounds. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
You know, which would be absolutely un-heard of... | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
It's referred to as one of the hardest fought battles ever. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
Isaac actually came out on top by the end, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
except he isn't, he simply isn't going to be able to see, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
-you know he was probably completely swollen and... -Like this one, yes, he probably, his eyes were. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:09 | |
-Yeah. -Oh, dear me. Do you think his brain was damaged? | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
Oh, I think it's... It would... If it didn't get damaged in some way, it would be utterly remarkable. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:18 | |
Isaac Bitton's epic fight of 74 bloody rounds, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
took place in December 1802, on Wimbledon Common, when he was just 23 years old. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:29 | |
It would be the greatest fight of his career. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
Isaac retired undefeated. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
"His weight after his retirement, so immensely increased | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
"that although his activity was remarkable for his size, he draw at scale, 17 stone." | 0:11:42 | 0:11:50 | |
That's not that bad nowadays, they can be 22, and really quite small. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:55 | |
For quite a long time though he was the life of the party. I mean he was one of the major figures, | 0:11:55 | 0:12:01 | |
I think it will most likely be helpful | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
to see what kind of evidence is available at Bevis Marks Synagogue, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
because there are references, to him as being Sephardic. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:13 | |
-That is, coming from... -From Spain. -..The Spanish world, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
which means either Spain or Portugal at some point. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
From Michael's research, June has clues to her family's Sephardic Jewish roots in the East End. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:33 | |
She's on her way to the Bevis Marks Sephardic Synagogue, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
which holds records for the community. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
Hello, nice to meet you. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:50 | |
My name's June Brown, yours is? | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
I'm Maurice Bitton, I'm the, er... I look after this wonderful old synagogue. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
You're not a relative by any chance, are you? | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
I was hoping we were, but I don't think we are. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
-I'm sure we must be, with a name like that. -Well, if you go back far enough, we probably are. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:06 | |
As you can see, this was built in 1701, which makes it the oldest surviving synagogue in the country. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:13 | |
It's beautiful isn't it? | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
It is, isn't it? | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
All the...candelabra, I suppose you call them. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
You get this wonderful sense of silence. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
-Let me introduce you. -Oh! -Miriam Rodrigues-Pereira, who's our archivist. -How do you do? | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
It's very kind of you to come and tell me. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
It's been a pleasure to do. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
-Is this the Rabbi's, erm...? -Reading desk. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
-Reading desk. -This is the, um... | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
this is the book of all the Hebrew marriage certificates. There we are. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:50 | |
There he is. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
Their names are given in Hebrew, here. "Isaac son of Abraham Bitton", | 0:13:52 | 0:13:59 | |
And her name is Hava. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
-Hava. -Eve, in Hebrew. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
So that gives us his father, who's Abraham. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
Yes, it sounds like the Old Testament doesn't it? | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
Isaac son of Abraham. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
-There's his signature. -Oh, he could write quite well. -Yes. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
-He was literate. -And -what's that say? | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
That says "novio", which is the Spanish, actually, for Bridegroom. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:25 | |
-Oh, that's lovely. -And at the bottom, the Rabbi has written in Portuguese, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:31 | |
"I married them with the seven blessings, the 10th July 1818." | 0:14:31 | 0:14:36 | |
How wonderful. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:37 | |
Aged 39, Isaac married Hava, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
17 years after beginning his career as a bare knuckle boxer. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
For June, the wedding record is the first time | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
she's seen evidence of any other Bitton ancestors, | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
Isaac's father Abraham. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
The next document Miriam has for June is from 1798, when Isaac was 19 years old. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:05 | |
This is the charity ledger from 1798 | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
and Isaac's father was getting money every month. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
-Uh-huh. -Until, um, April. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
-And F, I think, is "faleceu", which is the Portuguese for died. -Oh. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:25 | |
So he died, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
so Isaac was on his own. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
Is the mother mentioned? | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
No, it was just himself and Isaac. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
Oh. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:36 | |
The charity ledger proves that Isaac and his father Abraham | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
were living on their own in London's East End. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
June wants to discover what happened to Isaac after his father's death. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
So we know from the birth register Isaac had 11 children altogether. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
And this is the ledger for the charity allotment by the congregation, | 0:15:57 | 0:16:05 | |
which gives all the details of, er... | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
Oh, it's, oh, it's the money they give. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
"Isaac Bitton relief." | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
Yes, Isaac, here we are. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
Isaac gets money, ten shillings, this was in 1838. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:25 | |
But, I mean, how long was that? | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
Do you know whether he, that he stopped boxing by then? | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
I don't think he was ever wealthy. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
-Oh. -He didn't have very much, and the congregation was very good at providing for people... -Yes. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:40 | |
..Giving them allowances and giving them coal in the winter. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
Otherwise, there was no welfare for anybody. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
Exactly. And they'd starve, especially with all those children. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
So, erm, yes. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
More than a century before the creation of a welfare state, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
Britain's poor relied on charity for survival. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
The Bevis Mark Sephardic Synagogue looked after it's members, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
distributing sedekah - charitable donations to the needy, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
like Isaac and his family. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
There is a note of his death, so... | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
Oh, right. Oh, it's in English, that's marvellous. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
I can read this. Where do we go? Ah. Oh, here we've got it, look. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:27 | |
"Old Ikey", that's nice, isn't it? | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
"After a few weeks illness, breathed his last at the age of 60, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:34 | |
"in the Eastern Quarter, where he was so long known, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
"and lies in the Jewish burial ground near Bethnal Green." | 0:17:38 | 0:17:43 | |
Well, it's Mile End Road, actually. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
Well, you see, that's where my mother was born. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
Isaac died in 1839 at the age of 60. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
He had fathered 11 children. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
That's weird, what's that? | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
In order to learn any more about her Sephardic roots, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
June has to turn her attention to Isaac's father Abraham, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
her great, great, great, great grandfather. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
-Abraham was an immigrant, as far as we can tell. -Mm. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:15 | |
And I should think the most likely place | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
-is, er, Holland from Amsterdam. -Why would you think that? | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
-Well, because a lot of our people did come from there. -Yeah. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
I want to ask you, Miriam, if there are any graves that one could visit | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
because if Abraham died here, he would have been buried here. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
Yes, they were both buried here, but unfortunately there is no grave now. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
-Ah. -And we don't know whether there were gravestones. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:43 | |
-If there were, they didn't survive. -Mm. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
Despite Isaac's fame in the East End, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
no memorial to the bare knuckle boxer exists. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
Isaac died penniless, | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
just as his father Abraham had, four decades earlier. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
That's always been one of my fears. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
Being poor and old. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
It's not so bad being poor when you're young, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
cos you've always got the hope that something's going to happen, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
but unless you win the football pools, or the lottery comes up, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
you don't have much chance when you're old. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
It seems likely that Abraham and Isaac made their way to London's East End from Holland. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:44 | |
June's come to Amsterdam to discover if they did live here and, if so, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:50 | |
why they migrated to London when Isaac was only ten years old. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
For me, it's rather like reading a detective novel, | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
which I do all the time. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:00 | |
It's the only things I read unless I'm being serious. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
And this is like this for me, you know finding out all sorts of fascinating things. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:09 | |
What I'm interested in finding out | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
is why he left Holland or the Netherlands. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
I don't know whether mother had died, or stayed behind or whatever, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:26 | |
or divorced. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
They must have some reason why he came to the East End of London. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:33 | |
At Amsterdam's Municipal archives, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
June has arranged to meet Harmen Snell, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
a specialist in Jewish genealogy. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
What I found out in London | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
was that I have a great, great, great grandfather | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
who was a very well-known bare knuckle champion. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
This is Isaac Bitton, and I'd like to know if he was the only child, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
and why he came at the age of 11, roughly, with his father to the East End. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:08 | |
And when did they arrive? | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
I think roughly 1790. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
Yeah, so we're going to go for Bitton. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
We're looking for some child born about 1778. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:24 | |
I wish I could work one of these things. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
-This is Abraham Bitton, that's the father. -Ah-ha. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
These are years that his children were born. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
This is the name of the mother. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
-Ah, oh, look. -Rachel Rodrigues de Castro. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
-That's a lovely name, isn't it? -Yes, beautiful. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
I wish I had a name like that. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
-Mine's so common. -Yeah, well, mine too. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
And here is one child, Isaac. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:51 | |
-Uh-huh. -Born 1777. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
Ah, bit older than we thought, then. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
And here is another Isaac, in 1779. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:02 | |
-Oh, one died. -One died. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
-The first one died. -And the second one was named Isaac Haim. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:09 | |
-Haim, meaning life. -Mm. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
This is the birth, the registration. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
Good Lord! Such lovely writing they wrote, as well. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
And here you see 29th June 1779, | 0:22:17 | 0:22:22 | |
Isaac Haim, son of Abraham Bitton and Rachel Rodrigues de Castro. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:29 | |
So that must be the bare knuckle boxer. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
And his mother was Rachel. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
Yes. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
In the late 18th century, many of Europe's cities | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
forced Jews to wear distinguishing marks and live in separate ghettos. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:46 | |
But in Amsterdam, the city in which Abraham and his family were living, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
Jews were tolerated and could move about and practice their faith freely. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
But even with this freedom, Jews were prohibited from most professions. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
Many were forced to scrape together a living as street traders. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:05 | |
So what prompted Abraham and the 10-year-old Isaac | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
to abandon their family and leave the most tolerant city in Europe, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
for an uncertain future in England? | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
What I want to show you is, a book which is called The Termos... | 0:23:18 | 0:23:26 | |
The Sephardic community, if they had to deal with something they wrote it in this book. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:31 | |
-Very fancy. -Very fancy, yeah. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
-Yes. -But Abraham Bitton is registered here | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
being a tax payer for the community. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
Ah, so he wasn't on the poor relief, then? | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
-No. -He had a job. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
He had a job, most likely he was a hawker, on the streets. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
But not a liability on the congregation. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
-No. -Oh, well done. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
-Not yet. -Oh, no! | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
-Yes. -What's next? | 0:23:58 | 0:23:59 | |
-And next, -What's this? | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
This is the year 1784, 1785. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
And here you see Abraham Bitton again, and this is a sedekah list... | 0:24:07 | 0:24:14 | |
-relief for the poor. -Uh-huh. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
-And this is the first time he appears in this. -Right. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
So his household were seven people. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
-So... -Five children. -Five children. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
Five children were alive at that moment. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
And these are the amounts that they received. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
Why did they receive that? | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
Had he gone down in the world? Was he out of work? | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
1784, 1785 were dramatically bad years in Dutch economy. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:43 | |
We just had a war, behind us. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
-Which war was that? -It was what we call the Fourth English War. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
So imagine who we were fighting! | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
I can't think which war that was. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
We lost, we lost. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
-Oh, good. Oh, I'm sorry! -Oh, yeah. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
In 1780, the British declared war on Holland, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
when the Dutch came out in support of George Washington | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
and his revolutionary forces in America. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
Four years of war with Britain followed. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
The Dutch economy was in ruins and in the years that followed, Jewish street traders like Abraham, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:22 | |
who in the good times had managed to eke out a living for their families, now faced destitution. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:27 | |
The 10-year-old Isaac and his father Abraham | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
joined a wave of Jewish migrants | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
in search of a new life in the booming city of London. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
Abraham's wife Rachel and Isaac's siblings | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
were left behind in Amsterdam. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
Why did he move to London without his wife and other children, do you know? | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
He probably thought in London there might be chances, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
he went there to see if there were chances to stay there | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
-for a longer time and get his family over, but... -Still goes on! | 0:25:58 | 0:26:03 | |
It still works like that. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
But in 1795, the Netherlands were invaded by France. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:12 | |
And from that moment on, it was very difficult | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
or almost impossible to travel to England. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
-To leave the country. -To leave the country. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
And go across the channel, on the boat. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
By 1795, Europe was in the grip of the French Revolutionary Wars. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:30 | |
Holland was politically and economically vulnerable, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
and the French invading army marched in, isolating the country by land. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
And with Britain and France at war, the channel was blockaded, cutting Holland off by sea. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:45 | |
Rachel would have given up any hope of escaping the devastated Amsterdam | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
to join Abraham and Isaac in London. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
It's probable all communication between the divided family, ceased. | 0:26:55 | 0:27:00 | |
But by 1801, word from London | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
must have got through to the synagogue in Amsterdam. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
Rachel's husband Abraham had died. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
Here, you see, a registration, "the widow of..." | 0:27:15 | 0:27:20 | |
-Ah. -"..Abraham Bitton." | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
Abraham had already died, and she knows here that he died, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:29 | |
because she is registered as the widow. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
And her support in this sedekah list is now for three persons. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:36 | |
So she had eight children. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
Yes, well the other children, at this time in 1801, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
had all died, except Isaac. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
-In these times... -They died young? | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
They died young, many of them died young | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
and most of them on tuberculosis or kind of fevers. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:54 | |
-That's a very bad period of their lives then, -Yeah. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
They were separated, the son went and she was on the parish, as it were. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:02 | |
-And, for Isaac, writing letters or visiting his mother... -Yes. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:08 | |
-..Was not really in it. -Impossible. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
It looks like the mother was totally not aware that her son was still alive in London. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:17 | |
And he had no contact with her... | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
-No. -..Once he was in England. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
Oh, dear. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
What happened to Rachel? | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
Well, she died in Amsterdam in 1812, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:31 | |
and she and her children are buried in Amsterdam. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
Where did Abraham and Rachel come from? | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
We can research that when we find the marriage. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
-I will show you. -Go on, then. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
-I'll show you that one! -Speedy Gonzales! | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
June has uncovered the fate of Isaac's parent's Rachel and Abraham. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
Now she wants to delve further back to earlier generations. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:01 | |
So, what I have here is a reference to the actual marriage | 0:29:04 | 0:29:09 | |
of Abraham Bitton and his wife. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
I'm looking for my glasses, I won't be a minute. Right, I've got them. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
I think you might be able to read it without. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
"21st May 1762. Abraham Bitton from..." | 0:29:23 | 0:29:29 | |
-Can you read this? -Yes. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:30 | |
Yes? What does it say? | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
Well, I said yes, I said yes, to be accommodating, | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
but it looks like "Go" to me! | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
You should read it like this. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
It's written, "Livorno". | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
-What does that mean? Is that a town in Italy? -That's the town, in Italy. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
-Where they make hats. -Town where he was born. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
Really? Oh, so he was Italian? | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
And she, it's written here, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
Rachel Rodrigues from Amsterdam, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
and here you see their signatures. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
-Yeah. -So this is the father of Isaac. -It's very good, they were literate. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
-Yeah. -See that's unusual, at that time, because very often | 0:30:05 | 0:30:10 | |
people couldn't write and they signed their name with a cross. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
Yeah, or with a circle. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
In the Netherlands, Jews very rarely used the cross | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
-when they couldn't write. -Oh, you mean that sort of cross. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
They didn't like very much what the cross had done to them. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
-So the man who came to England... -Mm. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:30 | |
-..He came from the Netherlands... -Mm-hm. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
-..but he was born in Italy. -Born in Italy. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
I always said I was a mongrel! | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
-So where do we go...? -But his wife was from Ams... | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
Maybe go backwards from here? | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
We go backwards. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
Harmon has one final document connected to Abraham for June to see. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
So you see, this letter, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
dated 1764, | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
says that there is confirmation of his birth... | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
-Mm-hm. -..In Italy, in Livorno, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
with an exact date, 25th June 1732, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
and names of his parents, Joseph and Simha Bitton, in Livorno. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
-That's the mother. -Yes. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
And this part is even more interesting. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
This is by two other guys, who confirm that Abraham, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:20 | |
the son of Joseph Bitton, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
who now lives in the city of Amsterdam, | 0:31:22 | 0:31:27 | |
that he really is from the "nacion Espanola," | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
-the Spanish nation... -Yeah. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
..And that his grandfather, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
Isaac Bitton... | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
..was from the city of Oran. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
-Where's that? -In the north of Africa. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
-Er... -Africa! | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
In Algeria, nowadays Algeria. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
Algeria. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
And at that time, | 0:31:56 | 0:31:57 | |
it was Spanish ruled. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
-Ruled by the Spanish. -Oh, right. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
But it says that the whole family | 0:32:02 | 0:32:04 | |
was "espulsados", was expelled, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
together with all the Jews - | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
"todos los Hebreos" - | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
in the year 1669. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
So all the Jews were expelled from that town. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
-Because of faith? Their faith? -Yes. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
Thank you. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:24 | |
June has now traced her Bitton ancestors | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
back to 1669, to the North African city of Oran, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
when it was under Spanish rule. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
But before she can pursue this new information, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
there is one place she still wants to visit in Holland. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
Amsterdam's Sephardic cemetery is just outside of the city, | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
on a tributary of the Amstel River. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
June is now on her way there to see if she can find the grave | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
of Isaac's mother Rachel, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
June's great, great, great, great grandmother. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
They must have lived always on edge. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
Their fortunes fell and rose and fell, | 0:33:15 | 0:33:19 | |
and unfortunately fell more than they rose. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
I think this must have been particularly hard for Rachel | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
when she was left. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
It's like being widowed, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
there is the hole there somehow, | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
you miss the familiarity of it, | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
the pattern of it, the routine of it. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
I think it must have been dreadful | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
not to know what happened to your son. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
Well, she couldn't get across the Channel, it was blockaded | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
and there wasn't a telephone and, er... | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
you couldn't make a call and how did you know how they were? | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
It must have been... She must have lived her life in constant worry. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
By tradition, the dead are carried to Beth Haim Cemetery by boat. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:06 | |
Hello. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
-Thank you. May I hand you this? -Yeah, of course. -Thank you. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
Opened in the early 17th century, the cemetery is still used | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
and cared for by Amsterdam's Sephardic community. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
Well, that's only... That's ten years later. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
June's sorting through the cemetery's records to find Rachel | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
and any of her children who may have been buried here. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
"Bitton." | 0:34:41 | 0:34:42 | |
Ah, we've got Rachel. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
21st July 1812. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
And the Bitton is only spelt with one T. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
Well, that must be the mother. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
Oh, a child who died at two months old. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
Oh, dear. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
And this is a brother... | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
and he was two when he died. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
So...he's died, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
he's died as well. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
Of course, they're all "died" in here, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
and this one died in '96. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
So she lost that daughter, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
this one born '69, Abigail, a daughter - | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
- pretty name - died 1812. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
so she died the same time | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
as her mother. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:34 | |
So we've got 1812, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
mother and daughter | 0:35:37 | 0:35:38 | |
died in the same year. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
Oh! | 0:35:41 | 0:35:42 | |
Well, the daughter died first, | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
Abigail died on the 26th January | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
and her mother died on the 21st of July. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
So she was left all on her own. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
She was the last one to die. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
And she'd lost her daughter... | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
Perhaps she died heartbroken when her last child died. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
Nothing left to live for. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
Oh, dear. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
What a sad life. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
Beth Haim's caretaker, Dennis Ouderdorp, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
is taking June to the place where Rachel was buried. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
The mother was left alone, she was the last one to die. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
She'd got Isaac, but she didn't know that - | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
he was in England. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
If they were wealthy then we have a stone, | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
and if they were not wealthy, then it wouldn't have a stone. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
Of field 1763, this is row eight, | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
and Rachel was buried in row six. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
-Right. -So that must be somewhere...here. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
Right. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:54 | |
Row seven. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:56 | |
Row seven's about there, yes. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
Somewhere here must be row six. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
Row six. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
So we could be standing on her. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
On her grave, yes. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
Well, I'm going to imagine | 0:37:11 | 0:37:12 | |
that her grave is here. Where would her head be in this row? | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
Erm, on the side we are standing now. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
-This side? -And the feet upwards. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
So the... It goes that way? | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
-Right, right. -So we are.. We are here. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
-Right. -Right, thank you. Would you like to leave me alone for a moment? | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
-No, of course, I do understand. -Thank you. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
So... Rachel... | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
dear great, great, great, great grandmother. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:46 | |
I have come to visit you, | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
which you never expected. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
And I'm going to show you what happened | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
to your only living child | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
when you died. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
Well, this is he. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
And he became famous, | 0:38:03 | 0:38:04 | |
he was a champion bare knuckle fighter, | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
so you would have been very proud of him. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
So where is the sun there? | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
And I've brought you a flower from him and wherever the sun goes, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
that face will track it, | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
so may your face always be beside the sun. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
And this I will place in front. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
I don't suppose it will be there long, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
and according to the Jewish custom, | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
I have brought you a stone which, believe it or not, | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
has got a little face on it, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:36 | |
I'm sure you were prettier, but there she is. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
That is on your son. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:42 | |
I feel a kind of affinity with this Rachel, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
partly because of the amount of children that she had, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
partly because she named two of her children, I think it was, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
when the first one died, with the same name, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
and I did the same. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:05 | |
I had a premature baby that died when she was 16 days old | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
and I named her Chloe, and then I had Sophie | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
and then I had William, and the next one I called Chloe again. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:17 | |
And of course I've... | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
lost one child, | 0:39:19 | 0:39:20 | |
my mother lost two children, | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
she had five and I had six, I suppose. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
And this... How many has she lost? | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
All of them in the end. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:29 | |
And she was widowed, | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
and I am twice widowed, | 0:39:31 | 0:39:32 | |
and so I do feel very much that I understand, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
what it must have been like for her | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
when she was left at the very end with no children, no husband, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
I'm quite sure she gave up. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
And I should think she'd had enough. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
I think you can almost will yourself to die. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
She at least knows that she had one son living | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
at the time of her death, who became successful | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
and was charismatic and very well liked. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
Now there is success. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
It won't last long, the photograph. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
But she's seen it. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:31 | |
June has traced her Bitton family's line from the East End | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
to the heart of Amsterdam's Sephardic community. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
To follow these Sephardic roots any further, | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
June has to step back a century earlier and trace the journey | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
that her family made from Oran, in North Africa, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
when it was under Spanish Imperial rule. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
June has travelled to mainland Spain, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
where records of its time under the Spanish are kept. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
She's starting her journey in Madrid, once the capital of the largest empire in the world. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:24 | |
I've been to Spain before, not to Madrid, | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
and it gives a sense that Spain had a big empire. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:36 | |
An enormous empire. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
June is in pursuit of another Isaque - | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
her great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:52 | |
She knows this Isaque was expelled from Oran in modern day Algeria, | 0:41:52 | 0:41:56 | |
in 1669. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
I might be able to find out | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
more about my Sephardic roots... | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
what happened to those particular Jews, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
because that is a very interesting thing to be part of. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:14 | |
When June's ancestor was living in the North African Spanish outpost, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
religious intolerance raged. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
For more than two centuries, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:26 | |
Spain had aggressively expanded its empire. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
As it grew, a zealous Catholicism was branded on its new territories. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:34 | |
A tribunal was set up to enforce adherence to this Catholic doctrine | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
that's become known as the Spanish Inquisition. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
In Spain, Jews faced the onslaught of this Catholic zeal, | 0:42:44 | 0:42:49 | |
they were offered a choice - | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
leave, convert, or face death. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
The Spanish captured Oran in 1509. | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
Remarkably in this North African town, | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
just a day's sail from mainland Spain, | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
the small Jewish community was tolerated, | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
and even permitted to practise their faith. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:12 | |
The area surrounding Oran was rich with fertile ground | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 | |
and Jews were put to use brokering deals for the abundant crops, | 0:43:16 | 0:43:20 | |
between the local Berber farmers and Spanish buyers. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:24 | |
The largest collection of documents connected to the Jewish presence in Oran, | 0:43:35 | 0:43:39 | |
is held in royal archives, | 0:43:39 | 0:43:41 | |
north of Madrid in the town of Simancas. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
June is here to meet Doctor Francois Soyer, | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
an expert in the history of the persecution of the Jews in Spain. | 0:43:57 | 0:44:01 | |
-Ah, you must be Francois Soyer. -Hello, June. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
You know my name! | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
-I'll sit down, shall I? Thank you. -Sit down. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
-These are rather beautiful. -It is, it's a beautiful watercolour. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:17 | |
This is a map of... | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
-Map? -..Of the western Mediterranean, yes. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:21 | |
It looks like a pretty picture to me. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:23 | |
On the upper side of this map, | 0:44:23 | 0:44:25 | |
-is the Mediterranean coast of Spain... -Yes. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:29 | |
..The Alicante | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
-and in the middle... -Uh-huh. -..Majorca, Ibiza, | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
and here, at the bottom, what is today Algeria, | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
known back in the 17th century as the Barbary Coast. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
Oh, is that right? | 0:44:40 | 0:44:41 | |
And Oran here, this town on this side. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
Oh, yes, thank you. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:45 | |
And what is that? | 0:44:45 | 0:44:48 | |
That is a more detailed map of Oran... | 0:44:48 | 0:44:51 | |
..drawn actually in 1675. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
The town is surrounded by walls, it's very much a military outpost. | 0:44:56 | 0:45:00 | |
-Uh-huh. -It's got, er... | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
hostile Muslim outposts all around it. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
Now, the Jews in Oran | 0:45:06 | 0:45:08 | |
had this rather peculiar existence, | 0:45:08 | 0:45:10 | |
never fully trusted by the Spaniards, | 0:45:10 | 0:45:14 | |
very much forced to live in their own little area, erm... | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
seen as potential double agents, | 0:45:17 | 0:45:19 | |
maybe working for the Muslims as much as they were working for the Spaniards. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:25 | |
Francois has a document, which will give June a clue to Isaque's life, | 0:45:25 | 0:45:29 | |
and that of his father, a second Abraham. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
Now this is from the Royal Archives. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
I'm going to get slightly round nearer you, | 0:45:36 | 0:45:40 | |
and we can both read at the same time. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:42 | |
-Its date is... -What language is it? | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
-It's in Spanish. -I don't think I'll bother, you can tell me about it. -I'll give you a translation, | 0:45:45 | 0:45:50 | |
but its date is from 1637, | 0:45:50 | 0:45:52 | |
and what it's telling us is that in that year, | 0:45:52 | 0:45:55 | |
two Jews from Oran, | 0:45:55 | 0:45:57 | |
asked for the right to trade in Spain, | 0:45:57 | 0:46:00 | |
and this is exactly the documents here. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:02 | |
So Sadia Elayque and Abraham ben Boton, Jews. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:06 | |
What's that name again? Ben Boton? | 0:46:06 | 0:46:10 | |
-Ben bo... Ben Boton. -Ben Boton, the name has changed. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:14 | |
Yep, and the "boton" here is probably | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
a Spanish sort of, um... transliteration of what the original name would have been. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:21 | |
Is this Abraham related to me? | 0:46:21 | 0:46:24 | |
-The names are so similar... -Uh-huh. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:27 | |
..Abraham ben Boton, Isaac Bitton, | 0:46:27 | 0:46:31 | |
that it... there should be almost no doubt that they are related. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:35 | |
-Ah. -Erm, Abraham was probably his father. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:38 | |
Ah. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
So these two Jews have asked the Crown for the right | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
-to come to Spain for their business dealings. -Um-hm. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
Jews are not allowed to go to Spain normally. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
-No. -In fact, there is a death penalty | 0:46:50 | 0:46:52 | |
-against any Jews who were to be found in Spain... -Uh-huh. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
..Without any proper authorisation. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
As a trader in Oran, | 0:47:04 | 0:47:06 | |
Isaque's father Abraham needed to travel to Spain to broker deals. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:10 | |
But under the rules of the fanatical Inquisition, | 0:47:13 | 0:47:15 | |
any Jew found in Spain without proper authority, | 0:47:15 | 0:47:19 | |
faced torture or execution. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
The permit granted to Abraham | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
allowed him to travel in Spain safely. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
Effectively, they were asking for a visa | 0:47:32 | 0:47:34 | |
to come to Spain, and it had to go all the way to the king, | 0:47:34 | 0:47:38 | |
it had to wait for his authorisation. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:40 | |
This bit here is the king's... | 0:47:40 | 0:47:44 | |
-Initials, I think. -Exactly, this was Phillip IV. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:48 | |
Documents also very interesting because both Sadia Elayque | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
and Abraham ben Boton | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
are portrayed as good Jews. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
-Right. -They're descendants of the Jews | 0:47:57 | 0:47:59 | |
who helped Spain when the town was captured, and Abraham ben Boton | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
is one of the most senior members of the local synagogue. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
When the Spanish authorities asked for a list of the most prominent Jews in 1656, | 0:48:06 | 0:48:11 | |
he's definitely there. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
The best place to go in Spain is probably Toledo in central Spain. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:17 | |
-Why is that? -Well, it has probably the best preserved Sephardic, | 0:48:17 | 0:48:21 | |
medieval Sephardic synagogue in the Western Mediterranean. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:26 | |
And I would heartily recommend you go there. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:28 | |
Once again, June has uncovered a father and son, | 0:48:32 | 0:48:36 | |
another Abraham and another Isaque, | 0:48:36 | 0:48:39 | |
living in Oran in the mid 17th century. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
What she has not yet uncovered | 0:48:48 | 0:48:50 | |
is evidence to explain why the ben Boton family | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
fell out of favour with the Spanish Court, | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
resulting in the expulsion of Abraham and Isaque in 1669. | 0:48:56 | 0:49:00 | |
How did they go from being the good Jews of Oran, to being cast out? | 0:49:00 | 0:49:05 | |
Abraham was a Sephardic Jew, | 0:49:13 | 0:49:17 | |
which of course makes me Sephardi, | 0:49:17 | 0:49:20 | |
a fact of which I'm rather proud. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:22 | |
He came from Oran in, er, Algeria | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
which was a Spanish property, | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
it was a fortress town. They had been there for years, | 0:49:28 | 0:49:31 | |
but suddenly they were all expelled, whether it was just a general pogrom | 0:49:31 | 0:49:36 | |
or whether there was a particular reason | 0:49:36 | 0:49:39 | |
is what I hope to find out. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
During the violent years of the Inquisition, | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
few synagogues were spared. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
Many were converted to churches, others looted or destroyed. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:54 | |
Remarkably, here in Toledo, the 14th-century Sinagoga del Transito | 0:49:54 | 0:49:58 | |
survived the onslaught of the Inquisition. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
It's very hard not being of the Jewish faith, | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
but coming from Jewish roots. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
I see both sides, I suppose, and I suppose that's what we should all do. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:31 | |
I don't understand religious wars. That is where we ALL go wrong. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:36 | |
At the synagogue, June's meeting Spanish language scholar Michael Britain. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:48 | |
He's translated a document written in 1670, | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
a year after the Jews were expelled from Oran. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:57 | |
-It's not exactly brief is it, but it says... -No. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
-.."Brief account and abbridged summary..." -Oh, dear. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:06 | |
"..Of the complete expulsion of the Jews | 0:51:06 | 0:51:08 | |
"from the Jewish Quarter of the City of Oran, due to the Catholic zeal | 0:51:08 | 0:51:12 | |
"of the most excellent Senor Dom Fernando." | 0:51:12 | 0:51:16 | |
-And then it lists... This is all his name... -Oh, dear. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:19 | |
..This governor of Oran. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:21 | |
So this is written by the captain of the place, on his behalf, | 0:51:21 | 0:51:25 | |
and within it we can see what happened | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
and we can see things about the Jewish community at the time which | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
Abraham and Isaque lived in, and what happened to them, | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
but it's effectively a propaganda document. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:37 | |
-Uh-huh. -It's very one-sided. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:39 | |
Is this to excuse the reason why they expelled the Jews from Oran? | 0:51:39 | 0:51:43 | |
Exactly, absolutely, and our protagonists in all of this, the Marques, | 0:51:43 | 0:51:47 | |
he's going to carve himself out a glorious deed. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:52 | |
In 1667, the politically ambitious Marques de los Velez, | 0:51:55 | 0:51:59 | |
Governor of Oran, | 0:51:59 | 0:52:01 | |
saw an opportunity to bolster his position in the Spanish Court. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:05 | |
He knew that any move against the Jews would be popular | 0:52:06 | 0:52:09 | |
with the Catholic monarchy, and powerful Inquisition. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:14 | |
The theme that goes throughout this document | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
is the usefulness of the Jew - "What is their usefulness?" | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
-Yeah. -And the language is... | 0:52:21 | 0:52:22 | |
is quite shocking, really. It's, um... | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
At every opportunity, there's a negative term | 0:52:25 | 0:52:30 | |
applied to the Jewish people. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:32 | |
This one here... | 0:52:32 | 0:52:33 | |
"The bad weed that grows in the wheat field | 0:52:33 | 0:52:37 | |
"which Satan had introduced there to Oran, | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
"a stain which had spread so much and which is of dangerous contagion, | 0:52:41 | 0:52:45 | |
"not only to the faithful Christians..." | 0:52:45 | 0:52:47 | |
"..but also for these kingdoms." | 0:52:49 | 0:52:51 | |
The Marques advised the Spanish Court that the small Jewish Community of Oran | 0:52:53 | 0:52:57 | |
no longer served any valuable purpose. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:01 | |
Their expulsion was recommended. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
De Marques is saying to the Spanish Court, "This must be done secretly, | 0:53:07 | 0:53:10 | |
"the Jews mustn't find out what's going to happen | 0:53:10 | 0:53:13 | |
"in case they run rings round us and cause some revolt." | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
-Uprising. -Uprising, yeah. -Yes, there's a lovely word. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
And then the big day comes, | 0:53:18 | 0:53:20 | |
and then the actual expulsion is read out. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:24 | |
"As the last words of this Catholic and holy edict were delivered, | 0:53:24 | 0:53:28 | |
"the unhappy ones against whom the proclamation had been made, | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
"of which there were many present, | 0:53:31 | 0:53:33 | |
-"being left both sad, disheartened and confused." -Oh. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:37 | |
I think we can really glimpse, | 0:53:37 | 0:53:40 | |
you know, even the person writing it can see | 0:53:40 | 0:53:42 | |
that this must have been a terrible moment for them. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:45 | |
Yeah. And amongst these are Isaque and Abraham. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:49 | |
-And Abraham. -Mm. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
Because the arrangement is that they are given eight days | 0:53:51 | 0:53:55 | |
in which to tidy everything up, settle their affairs, and leave. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:59 | |
They're not just taken in the night. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
-No, they're not just taken in the night. -Off to a concentration camp. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:05 | |
-They do have a week. -And the arrangement, they... -And they're leaving their houses? | 0:54:05 | 0:54:09 | |
They're leaving their houses, the place that they've been settled in, some of them for 150 years. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:14 | |
-Yes. It's not... -It's a big thing. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
On the 16th April 1669, | 0:54:16 | 0:54:20 | |
the expulsion of the Jews from the city began. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:23 | |
Summoned in secret by the Marques, | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
a small fleet of ships lay anchored off the shore below the town. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:30 | |
Among them, a single 500-ton vessel | 0:54:30 | 0:54:33 | |
he deemed large enough to hold all the Jewish people of Oran. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:37 | |
The Marques readied his men at the gates of the Jewish Quarter, | 0:54:38 | 0:54:42 | |
and ordered the Jews to leave their homes. | 0:54:42 | 0:54:46 | |
"So now Abraham and Isaque are going to be coming out of their house, | 0:54:46 | 0:54:50 | |
"they were ordered to leave the said Jewish Quarter, | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
"which was their greatest pain and sorrow. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:55 | |
"And at the appropriate time, the march began down to find where the ships were... | 0:54:55 | 0:55:00 | |
"the Vanguard occupied by beautiful horses accompanied by drums | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
"and trumpets, symbolising in form, the dignity of the illustrious | 0:55:03 | 0:55:07 | |
"and loyal city of Oran, and in the middle was the standard of the holy court of the Inquisition." | 0:55:07 | 0:55:12 | |
These were all Spanish people who were having the bands and the...? | 0:55:12 | 0:55:15 | |
Exactly, it's all this pomp and ceremony, it's like an old boys' club. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:19 | |
The Jews followed behind, terrible thing. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:21 | |
-If you imagine it yourself what it would be like... -Exactly. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
Leave everything behind, and you don't know where you're going. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:28 | |
"And then the most excellent lord Marques led them down whereupon they | 0:55:28 | 0:55:32 | |
"reached the beach, though they were laden with clothes and furniture, | 0:55:32 | 0:55:36 | |
"which they sold with greater avarice, he says wishing to take away the money." | 0:55:36 | 0:55:41 | |
-So they were selling this on the beaches? -It sounds like that. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:46 | |
-Like a garage sale? -Yes. -These were the small things they couldn't take with them. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:50 | |
This is their actual possessions. So we're getting a picture of quite... | 0:55:50 | 0:55:54 | |
It's quite a scene, isn't it, of everybody going down there, and it says here it took all day long. | 0:55:55 | 0:56:01 | |
They're being received aboard, 466 people. It says... | 0:56:01 | 0:56:05 | |
"His Excellency the Marques, | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
"though the passage of the Jews onto the ship took most of the day, | 0:56:07 | 0:56:11 | |
"remained at the spit of land by water without alighting, | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
"nor disbanding the squadron, | 0:56:14 | 0:56:16 | |
"until he saw that abhorrent people | 0:56:16 | 0:56:18 | |
"fully disembarked from the beach." | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
And we know that from Oran... | 0:56:22 | 0:56:24 | |
-Which was... -Which is just... -Somewhere around here. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:28 | |
-You can just see it there, I can barely see it. -I can't see it. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
There's an O-R-A-N, | 0:56:31 | 0:56:32 | |
if you go from the A of Barbary you go up a bit. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
-This one, there's Oran. -That's it. -Right. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
And then they were taken up to... | 0:56:38 | 0:56:41 | |
..Nice... | 0:56:42 | 0:56:44 | |
and they only allowed the richest people | 0:56:44 | 0:56:48 | |
to stay there, | 0:56:48 | 0:56:50 | |
and, er, 300 had... were not allowed to disembark, | 0:56:50 | 0:56:54 | |
and amongst those 300 were Abraham. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:56 | |
-Abraham and Isaque and their families. -Exactly. | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
And they went on to...? | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
They went on to... | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 | |
round the corner here, | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
it's got a G in those days, | 0:57:06 | 0:57:08 | |
-Ligorno, Livorno, in Italy. -In Italy. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:12 | |
And that is where the next one I know, | 0:57:13 | 0:57:16 | |
Joseph, who was the son of Isaque, | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
lived and died, | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 | |
and his son, | 0:57:22 | 0:57:23 | |
Abraham, | 0:57:23 | 0:57:25 | |
went to Amsterdam. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:28 | |
It's quite a story. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:31 | |
You talk about the wandering Jew and they seem to have wandered all the time. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:45 | |
They couldn't put down any roots, not really, because they were constantly | 0:57:45 | 0:57:50 | |
torn up and they had to move on, | 0:57:50 | 0:57:52 | |
and it must have been an exceedingly worrying life. | 0:57:52 | 0:57:56 | |
Belonging to the Sephardic tribe, | 0:57:59 | 0:58:02 | |
you know, I do think it maybe is the reason | 0:58:02 | 0:58:06 | |
why some collective consciousness, | 0:58:06 | 0:58:09 | |
some distant race memory | 0:58:09 | 0:58:12 | |
makes me think that I have to be settled. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:15 | |
I don't like being unsettled, | 0:58:15 | 0:58:18 | |
I don't like not knowing where I'm going or what I'm doing, or when. | 0:58:18 | 0:58:22 | |
I don't know whether it's just me and the way I was born | 0:58:23 | 0:58:26 | |
or whether there is something of a memory of being moved on. | 0:58:26 | 0:58:29 | |
I feel more connected... | 0:58:31 | 0:58:34 | |
..a consolidation, I think, of my Jewishness. | 0:58:35 | 0:58:39 | |
Like being a member of a family. | 0:58:40 | 0:58:42 | |
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