15/07/2013 Eat Well for Less?


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In the UK, we spend over £1.2 billion a week on food.

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About £51 per household.

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A bog-standard pint of milk now - 50 pence.

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I can remember when milk was about ten pence a pint.

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Faced with more choice than ever, how do you know

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when you're getting value for money?

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You've got granary. You've got wholemeal. You've got seeded.

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There's even bread that tells you it's toastable. What bread isn't toastable?!

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Gregg Wallace and greengrocer, Chris Bavin,

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are out to find answers.

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How much are carrots normally?

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90p a kilo.

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£3 a kilo.

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To buy 'em chopped up.

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When is it worth splashing the cash?

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And when should you save your pennies?

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Two large cod and chips, please. Lovely, look at that!

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The boys are going to try and find out by creating two very

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different plates of the classic British dish, fish and chips.

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This is the way to catch a cod.

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Got to do this for 4½ hours. Fantastic.

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Along the way, they'll examine a whole range of everyday products.

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-You are the first person who's picked the fresh out.

-Maybe I'm a broccoli genius.

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Gregg's hunting for high-end ingredients...

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It's about 30p a chip.

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..And Chris, the low-cost alternative...

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Ten million of these a day, they make.

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..before the Great British public decide...

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-Which fish comes out on top?

-You like the purple ones?

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..whether you should save or spend when it comes to fish and chips

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Those people of Hastings with a discerning palate

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will tell the difference...I hope!

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Gregg Wallace started out as a greengrocer in the 1980s

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and adores working with fine food.

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Lovely little leaves.

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But he knows top ingredients don't come cheap.

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I've been supplying to the best restaurants

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and eating in those restaurants for over 20 years.

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I know what quality tastes like.

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I know how much it costs.

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Hello, mate.

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Greengrocer Chris Bavin has been voted the UK's top

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independent retailer two years in a row and knows how to spot a bargain.

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It's not about how much food costs but value for money.

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I'm here to prove you can get a good, healthy, tasty meal for less.

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Chris is a fine young man, a greengrocer like me,

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but I'll introduce him to the finer things in life!

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Now, now, Gregg.

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On average, we spend over an hour a week in Britain's supermarkets -

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that's over 215,280 minutes of your life

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you'll never get back!

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And the boys are beginning their research

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into cheap versus expensive fish and chips

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with their very own version of Supermarket Sweep.

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Gregg, be a love and shove us the...

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-The cheap one?

-Value, value.

-Saucy!

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They're both looking

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at typical ingredients for fish and chips to feed a family of four.

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Quite a selection here.

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Chris is hunting for a low-cost basket.

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We've got cod in batter,

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breaded. Fillets, that's me.

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£4.49 for four.

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And Gregg's after high-end ingredients.

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I'm after the finest cod you've got.

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It's line-caught. Day boats. Best piece of fish you can get.

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Do you consider fresh to be better than frozen?

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A lot more flavoursome. That over a frozen fish,

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-there's no comparison.

-I'm sold.

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Straight-cut oven chips.

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£1.29.

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Perfect.

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I want a starchy potato.

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Cyprus - perfect.

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Something special to fry my chips - duck fat.

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Vinegar. Trusted brand.

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Twice the price, as per usual.

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You look like a man who likes a bargain.

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We ain't all millionaires, Gregg.

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Time to check out.

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Gregg's basket of the finest ingredients -

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including fresh cod, fresh potatoes

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and even a spot of duck fat would set you back £14.82.

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Chris's economy basket,

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including frozen cod and frozen chips, would cost just £8.04.

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Let's compare these bills here.

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Mine's nearly £15.

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I'm a smidgeon over eight quid.

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You're not far away from double. Everything on there

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is more expensive by a considerable amount.

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It's my fish.

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My fish is nearly double the cost of your fish.

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This is exactly the same bag of shopping.

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You've given nearly double...

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We haven't got exactly the same and that's the point.

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If we had exactly the same, we'd have the same bills.

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No-one ever said quality was cheap.

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You're not telling me that by the time you cook this,

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slather it in vinegar and red sauce, it's going to taste any different?

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I honestly do not believe

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you can get the same plate of food with your ingredients. No way.

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Well, there's only one way to find out. It's time to separate the boys.

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They'll each source the kind of ingredients they believe will

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win over the British public in the final fish-and-chip taste test.

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Will Gregg's premium produce live up to its price tag?

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Or can Chris' cheaper alternative punch above its weight?

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First task - find the right fish.

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Chris is kicking off his search for great value produce

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in the Norwegian fjords.

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We left UK ten hours ago and here we are in Norway

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and we haven't even got on a boat yet.

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He's off to work on a factory ship that catches

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and then freezes vast numbers of cod at sea.

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Rather you than me, Chris.

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We've got to the boat that will take us fishing for cod.

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That looks more like the ferry I took to France when I was a kid.

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Gregg's journey is a little less international.

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He's hunting down expensive fish, in the British port of Brixham.

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I'm in Devon. I'm going out with the fishermen. This is why I'm up at a ridiculous hour.

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It's four o'clock and I'm going to see what goes into line-catching fresh fish.

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This is small-scale artisan.

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You never know what you'll get with fishing. It's like hunting.

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This is why fresh fish can be expensive.

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Why are we up so early?

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Because of the amount of days we lose for weather,

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and the cost of fuel nowadays,

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we have to maximise our days

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so we generally start fishing at first light

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and fish through till dark.

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The Full Monty can struggle to cover her costs.

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Even on a good day she might only bring home 150 fish.

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It seems you have to catch a lot of fish to make your living.

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What are the costs?

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A typical day for us

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is somewhere in the region of 450 and 600lbs a day.

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You have to catch that amount of fish

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before we start earning a penny.

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How much cod could this vessel catch?

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Per day, we would catch

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approximately 50 tonnes of H&G cod.

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Where does the majority of that fish go?

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Most of it, from the long liners,

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goes to the UK market for fish and chips.

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Every year, we Brits eat

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300 million portions of fish and chips - greedy bunch -

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and most of that's made from cod.

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Fresh British cod can't meet our demand,

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so we import industrial-caught fish from sustainable sources

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abroad to fill the gap.

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-This part of the process is baiting the hooks.

-Yes.

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So everything is caught on a hook, nothing is caught with a net?

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No, everything is on the hook. The fish choose to bite the hook.

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-OK, or not.

-Or not.

-So now we're firing out the hooks.

-50,000 hooks.

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50,000 hooks out there.

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Every hook must be individually baited with small herrings.

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-Could take a while.

-You can see now he's ready with the anchor.

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And now the process starts. It doesn't stop.

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Mass-caught cod can help keep your average high-street

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fish and chips affordable.

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Line-catching, as opposed to trawling with nets,

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is a more selective method of fishing, meaning, in theory,

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only certain species of fish are caught

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and other delicate fish stocks are preserved.

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So this is the very first part of the process.

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How long will we stay here for, to do this?

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It's 45,000, 50,000 hooks,

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we will use about 4½ hours.

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So 4½ hours, we do this? Yes? Nonstop?

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No breaks. I've got to do this for 4½ hours? Fantastic. OK.

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It's starting to get a bit choppy around here, I think.

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Filthy, dirty, stinking of fish, exhausted.

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I bet wherever Gregg is, he's not doing this.

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Oh, it's as if you're telepathic, Chris(!)

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I can see them coming.

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Look at that. That's a beautiful thing.

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Whoa, that is a beauty.

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-That's fabulous.

-That's not bad, is it?

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So what do you think of your fish compared to the Norwegian?

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Erm, it's OK.

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But it's not fresh and from on your doorstep, is it?

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You can't beat fresh.

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It's caught by hand, straight on the boat, it's gutted, it's washed

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and packed in ice and landed that night.

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You can't get any fresher than that.

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Now, the pressure's on. Can Gregg land himself a big one?

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If I don't get a cod, I'm going to be a laughing stock, aren't I?

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Whoa, look here, Chris, this is the way to catch cod.

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Well done, Gregg.

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Whoa, look at him.

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Fish like this are normally served up to some lucky diner

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within 48 hours of being caught.

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Back in Norway, after several hours' fishing,

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it's time to haul in the line.

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You can see there is a fish on the first hook.

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-The fish are starting to come out now. One after the other.

-Yep.

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There's another one. That's a perfect size.

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Look, now we're going to get the fish. Look at the size of the fish.

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Very nice.

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In one trip, this vessel can hook up to 160,000 fish.

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She can be at sea for five weeks at a time

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so it's vital the catch is frozen at minus 20 degrees within a few hours.

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So now you're going to fillet this cod for us?

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-That's beautiful and white inside, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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This is literally what is going to be frozen

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and then be served up in chip shops all over the UK within a week or so?

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So here we are, after 14 hours at sea,

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we've got beautiful, fresh cod.

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This was swimming in the ocean only three hours ago.

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You can't tell me that anyone is eating any fresher than this cod.

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So it's definitely fresh when it gets frozen!

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These guys can be out here for 40 days and 40 nights.

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Next time you're in fish-and-chip shop on a Friday night,

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have a little thought for these guys. They work incredibly hard.

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Back in the UK, and after a long day at sea,

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Gregg too is heading back to port with his whopper.

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Beautiful fish.

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I know that's how you earn a living, but I've had a great day.

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-Glad to meet you, mate.

-See you again, hopefully.

-Take care.

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That was great.

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So in one fishing trip, they've achieved very different results.

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Chris and his Norwegian chums reeled in 5,700 fish

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and Gregg helped hand-catch 100 fish.

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With the big public fish-and-chip taste test just days away,

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both boys are off the mark.

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Gregg's found the kind of fish he wants to serve,

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British, fresh and rod-and-line caught.

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And Chris has found a lower cost, quick-frozen-at-sea alternative,

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although I'm not sure he'd do it again.

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Whilst Gregg and Chris are focusing

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on their upcoming fish-and-chip final taste-off,

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we've drafted in some helpers to see

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whether you should spend or save

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when it comes to another cod classic.

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Fish fingers are a big favourite

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because it comes with fish fingers, chips, beans. Yeah, great.

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Easy for us, easy to cook, easy to serve. Kids love them.

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In Britain, we eat over one million fish fingers a day,

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so we've put three brands to the test.

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And who better to judge them than 15 hungry kids

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from Handsworth Primary School in East London.

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If they don't like it, they're very quick to tell me, don't worry!

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Tough crowd.

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The fish fingers on test today have between 60 and 64% fish content,

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but they do vary massively in cost.

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On the yellow table, ASDA's fish fingers. 47p per 100 grams -

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the cheapest in this blind taste test.

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On the green table, Sainsbury's, the second cheapest at 64p.

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On the red table, Marks & Spencer's Chunky, the dearest at 73p.

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And that's where our experts are starting.

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The fish tasted a bit slimy.

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Three letters - OMG!

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THEY GIGGLE

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A portion of breadcrumbed fish fingers contains half

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the fat of a battered fish portion.

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Just as well, the rate this lot are going through them.

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Next up, ASDA, the cheapest option.

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It was really, really squishy.

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The inside of it, it tasted a bit like paper.

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The outside was...

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..quite crumbly as well.

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I don't like it. I love it!

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Finally, Sainsbury's.

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# We are young

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# We run green

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# Keep our teeth nice and clean... #

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This one was the best one.

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I really liked this one.

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It was very chewy on the inside.

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It was more attractive than the others

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because it was chewier and I like the crispy bits.

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Eating over, it's voting time for these budding food connoisseurs.

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Put the cost by the one you want, but only do one.

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# Whatever you do... #

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One vote equals one point.

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-The red fish fingers got...

-Three points.

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-The yellow fish fingers got...

-Three points.

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And the green fish fingers got...

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Nine points, which makes green the winner!

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THEY CHEER

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# All right! #

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So it's the mid-priced fish finger from Sainsbury's that leads the way

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in this blind taste test,

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with Marks & Spencer's and ASDA joint second.

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Good news for Chris and his value hunt.

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And good news for your pocket.

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It might not be totally scientific,

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but Handsworth Primary have spoken.

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OK, that's enough about fish for now.

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We've plenty more to tickle your taste buds!

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Can we borrow you for a moment to do a quick taste test?

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Can you, the Great British public,

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taste the difference between economy and the higher-priced alternatives?

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Time to put another family favourite to the test - sausage rolls.

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Over to you, Chris.

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Excuse me, could I borrow one of you for ten seconds?

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On test are Morrisons' Savers sausage rolls at 23p for 100 grams,

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and Morrisons' Standard, at nearly twice the price.

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Both packs have a meat content of below 30%.

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Right, young lady, if you could taste these two sausage rolls

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-and tell me which one you prefer, please?

-OK.

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If you could taste them both and let me know which one you prefer?

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Same time, or one after another?

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One after the other. Unless your palate is good at deciphering taste.

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You can chuck them both in if you want.

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-I'm vegetarian.

-Oh, yeah? Clearly not for you then.

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I think with one of them, you might be all right, to be honest.

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The economy snacks are on the white napkin

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and the more expensive version on red.

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-Probably that one.

-You prefer that one?

-Spicier.

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-That one.

-You prefer that one?

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-This one.

-You prefer that one?

-Hits the tongue straightaway.

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-I like that one better.

-So you've chosen the cheaper option, which is,

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you might be surprised to know, nearly half the price of the premium.

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-You've chosen the more expensive.

-Mm.

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It's just under twice the price of that one.

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Would that change your decision?

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-I'd definitely go for that one.

-If it's cheaper...?

-The cheaper one.

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That's actually the cheaper option,

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and it's just under half the price of the more expensive one.

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If that's half the price, I'd definitely go for that one rather than that one,

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-because I could put my own herbs on that if I wanted to, couldn't I?

-There you go, bit of sauce!

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Ooh, sneaky!

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That taste test result, that was fantastic.

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The majority of people favouring the cheaper product.

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That just goes to show,

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it isn't always about the most expensive product being superior.

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So, maybe, the cheaper option will do well in your

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fish-and-chip fight then, Chris?

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Back on the road, Gregg's hit a fish market, where the

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whopper he reeled in yesterday is about to be auctioned.

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Ten? 20? 20?

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I followed my cod down to market to see how much money I'd get for it.

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This, compared to the frozen, what do you honestly think?

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This is second to none.

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This is the best. The best in the world.

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I wouldn't put a frozen bit of fish on my plate.

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But then, I don't have to.

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A little bit of boat-to-throat cod? Pick what you like.

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We can do a bit of trade on that. It has good weight as well. 5.10?

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Is that 5.10? 5.20, Harry?

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Five pound.

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I might be a dim greengrocer,

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but I've got absolutely no idea what's going on.

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They're just shouting out numbers and putting coloured stickers down.

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But I have found my cod.

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62 to buy Bowditch, at 60? 60, 70?

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£7, what about it? 7.10?

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Not much cod here today. 7.10?

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Four kilos, it's a good weight, Harry.

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Quite a little bidding war going on there for my fish.

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Yeah, there was.

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There's not many cod around, to be honest, today.

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I'll buy that. I'll take it back to Taunton, cos we all crept up

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and, by the end of today, six o'clock, that will

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go Michelin-starred restaurant in Chagford.

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My cod got good money, didn't it?

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I think it was £7 a kilo.

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-Oh!

-So, I think that fish was a four kilo fish?

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So we're talking £28 just for that one fish.

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That fish will end up on a plate tonight.

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I landed it yesterday afternoon.

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That's what you're paying for.

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You can't get better than that. There is no way around it.

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That's the top of the game.

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In less than 24 hours, Gregg's catch has been sold

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and will be on a restaurant plate this evening.

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I've had a lovely time. Landing the fish

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and then watching this go through auction today has been great.

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Luckily, for me and the fish, there wasn't a lot of cod here today

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and the price actually got £7 a kilo.

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That makes my fish nearly 30 quid and I know where it's going!

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And that just gives me an enormous sense of well-being.

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At £28, or seven quid a portion,

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this catch is a bit pricey for your local chippy

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and is actually heading for a Michelin-starred restaurant.

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Lucky fish.

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Well, I say lucky...

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Are your hands nice and clean?

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Now, there's more to fish and chips than just a chunk of cod,

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meaning there's plenty more products

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you might be able to save your pennies on.

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The boys are back together to look at the king of condiments.

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We'll both have a go at making ketchup, is that right?

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You've used tinned tomatoes, I've got fresh tomatoes.

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Do you need to buy pricey ingredients to make a decent ketchup?

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So, it'll be interesting to see

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if we can do anything that compares with the big brands.

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Gregg and Chris will be pitting their creations

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against the big boy brands in the second of our taste tests,

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using Hastings Amateur Rowing Club as guinea pigs.

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You lucky chaps.

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Right, are you going to start with an onion?

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That's probably the best place to start, isn't it, I'd imagine?

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You're always taking the cheapest and easiest route out

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and I'm always trying to get hold of the best ingredients I can.

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That's not fair. I don't always look for the cheapest,

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I look for the value for money.

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You know, can you eat the same for less?

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It's not always paying more

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definitely assures you the best quality.

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How are you getting on with your kilo of baby tomatoes?

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Yeah. This is going to take for ever.

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CHRIS LAUGHS

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So, come on, Gregg. Tell me, what is in your pot of tomato sauce?

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Onions, sweated down, vegetable oil, ginger.

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Then fresh tomatoes on the top of that, a little bit of white

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wine vinegar, plenty of pepper, salt and, now, I'm adding brown sugar.

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-Brown sugar?

-And that, I am ready to go. I'm ready to strain this now.

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Yeah?

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So, what's in your everyman, everyday, cheap-as-you-like ketchup?

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Well, I thought I'd go really avant-garde with it,

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really push the boat out and go wild,

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so it's predominantly tomatoes, with some onion.

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For any budding mathematicians out there,

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you'll not be surprised to know that

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Gregg's ingredients cost more.

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A lot more.

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Right, who's going to win?

0:20:550:20:57

I've got a funny feeling that people don't want you to be too

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clever with your tomato sauce.

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So, I've got a sneaky suspicion I might win it.

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You've got no chance at all.

0:21:050:21:07

I don't know if it's you or the sauce,

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but there's some aromas coming up which are...

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somewhat slightly unfamiliar to me.

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That's soap.

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CHRIS LAUGHS

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Touche, well done. Ba-dum-tsh!

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I don't know what Gregg's playing at.

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He's got ginger in there, he's got white wine vinegar,

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he's got all sorts of different bits and pieces. Cloves.

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Basically, he's just clearing out cupboards and chucking everything in.

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I may have gone a little bit over the top with the cost,

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but, those people of Hastings with a discerning palate will be

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able to tell the difference. I hope.

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-There you go.

-There we go.

-Voila.

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Done! Let's get down to Hastings

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and have a look and see what the public think.

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-They don't look that dissimilar, do they?

-Let's find out, shall we?

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Time for Hastings' rowers to put down their oars

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and pick up a chip to dip in a range of sauces.

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There are over 20 brands of ketchup available in supermarkets

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already, including Kania from Lidls,

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the cheapest on test today at just 12p per 100 gram,

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Waitrose Essential, 21p,

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Daddies, costing 27p

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market leader, Heinz, 38p,

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Chris's ketchup, which comes in more expensive at 56p,

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and, finally, Gregg's,

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costing a huge 89p per 100 gram.

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Once again, it's a blind taste test.

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These fitness fanatics have no idea which sauce is which.

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That's really tomato-y.

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Ooh, no, I'm not sure about that.

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That's really nice.

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I prefer that out of all of them.

0:22:460:22:48

How you doing, guys?

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-You've had plenty of chips?

-We have.

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You are now, I suppose, ketchup connoisseurs.

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-We definitely are.

-WOMAN:

-We are indeed, yes.

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So, can you put as out of our misery and let us

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know which was your favourite?

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After much deliberation, the one that came out number one was...

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-ALL:

-Oooooh!

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-This one.

-You're kidding.

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Who'd have thought it? Gregg's home-made sauce takes the honours.

0:23:130:23:17

You're joking. Here we go. How was that? How was that? Why?

0:23:170:23:23

It was something different. It wasn't generic.

0:23:230:23:26

-WOMAN:

-The texture was nice as well.

0:23:260:23:28

-Yeah?

-Yeah, really nice.

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-MAN:

-It just had a bit of spice to it.

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It was a little bit of a kick, a bit different from the regular

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sort of ketchup you find in your chip shop.

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OK, let's assume you don't have a second mortgage

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to spend on Gregg's ketchup.

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How did the more reasonably priced options compare?

0:23:420:23:45

What was number two, then? What was the second?

0:23:450:23:47

Number two was...

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this one.

0:23:490:23:51

Oh! So, that's very interesting.

0:23:510:23:53

That is, in fact, the cheapest out of all of the sauces today.

0:23:530:23:56

-Where's that one from?

-That's from Lidl.

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That is interesting.

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-MAN:

-The sauce that came first was more expensive

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than the sauce that came second place,

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so I definitely would choose the second-place sauce.

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So, I'm loath to ask, what came in at last place?

0:24:060:24:09

I think the one that came in last was...

0:24:110:24:14

-Oh! MAN:

-Oh, no!

0:24:170:24:19

Wow, OK. What was it you didn't like about my mate's?

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It was a bit bland.

0:24:260:24:28

-WOMAN:

-A bit watery.

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-MAN:

-It didn't have any sort of kick to it.

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Was it too tomato-y for you? Was that the problem?

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It wasn't tomato-y enough.

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Well, obviously, the good burghers of Hastings

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have got excellent taste.

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Fairly conclusive.

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LAUGHTER

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So, other than Gregg's super sauce,

0:24:450:24:48

cheaper wins out in this taste test.

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Lidl, the cheapest ketchup, was best of the rest.

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Daddies came third,

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Britain's top-selling brand only managed fourth,

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Waitrose Essentials came fifth and, bottom of the pile,

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was Chris's woeful attempt at ketchup.

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So, the conclusion, home-made is best.

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Except when it's the worst.

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What if you never buy ketchup, I hear you say? Well, fear not.

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Look along your supermarket shelves.

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There are hundreds of condiments

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that might benefit from closer inspection.

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Take tartare sauce, a heady mix of mayo, gherkins and capers,

0:25:240:25:28

but not all tartares are equal.

0:25:280:25:31

For example, these three jars vary massively in price.

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100 grams will cost you anything from 46p for an own brand

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to 50p for a market leader

0:25:390:25:42

and £1.50 for a top end condiment.

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On closer inspection, there are some differences in the kind

0:25:450:25:49

of ingredients, but does that mean it's worth spending the extra money?

0:25:490:25:53

Later, the British public will decide whose version

0:25:560:25:59

of fish and chips is tastier,

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so the boys are back on the hunt for ingredients.

0:26:000:26:03

They've found their fish, now for the chips.

0:26:030:26:07

With the final taste test looming,

0:26:080:26:10

Gregg's called on Michelin-starred chef Tom Kerridge,

0:26:100:26:13

an expert in high-end and high-priced chips.

0:26:130:26:17

Feel free to steal any tips and use them at home.

0:26:170:26:20

Tom, the reason I've come to you

0:26:200:26:22

is that I want to find out what

0:26:220:26:25

makes the perfect, and I mean

0:26:250:26:26

-the perfect, chip.

-Allow me.

0:26:260:26:29

Step one, choose the right fresh potato.

0:26:290:26:32

Tom's got three varieties to cook for Gregg's test today

0:26:320:26:35

and they all cost roughly the same.

0:26:350:26:37

OK, what we've got is some basic reds, we've got

0:26:370:26:40

a Rooster potato, which is very similar to a Maris.

0:26:400:26:42

This is going to be the best one for chips.

0:26:420:26:44

We've got these ones here, which is your normal baking potatoes

0:26:440:26:48

that you would find from your supermarket.

0:26:480:26:50

This, for a chip, will be rubbish.

0:26:500:26:52

A baking potato has a lot of moisture in it.

0:26:520:26:55

Even when it's fried, it's still watery,

0:26:550:26:58

which stops the outside getting crispy and golden.

0:26:580:27:01

Start off with your normal baking potatoes.

0:27:010:27:04

Each single chip we cut out with an apple corer.

0:27:040:27:06

Five sacks of these a day, the boys do. All the same size.

0:27:060:27:11

That's not a chip, that's a small fondant!

0:27:110:27:13

LAUGHTER

0:27:130:27:14

So, this one, red potatoes, a little bit more floury.

0:27:140:27:18

These are the Roosters and these are the super bad boys,

0:27:180:27:20

the ones that are going to be the best.

0:27:200:27:23

Freshly picked.

0:27:230:27:25

Tom reckons fresh Rooster or Maris is best for chips,

0:27:250:27:28

because it contains less water.

0:27:280:27:30

Yes, even Michelin-starred chefs use everyday spuds.

0:27:300:27:33

Is that a portion, do you reckon?

0:27:330:27:36

That's about a portion, yeah.

0:27:360:27:37

How much is a portion of Tom's Michelin-starred chip?

0:27:370:27:41

-It's £4.

-It's about 30p a chip.

0:27:410:27:43

Yeah, probably. Round about that.

0:27:430:27:45

So, how do you get the moisture out of a spud?

0:27:450:27:47

We're going to cook it three times.

0:27:470:27:49

The first two times are erase moisture.

0:27:490:27:51

First time, we'll blanch them in boiling water.

0:27:510:27:54

Anything between ten and 20 minutes.

0:27:540:27:56

Although you're putting it into a moisture environment,

0:27:560:27:59

what it is actually doing it is cooking it

0:27:590:28:01

and the moisture is coming out of the potato.

0:28:010:28:03

Then we're going to leave them on a tray so they steam dry.

0:28:030:28:06

We'll keep all three separate, so we know which one is which.

0:28:060:28:09

These will take about 15 minutes.

0:28:090:28:13

What we've got here is a bag of spuds.

0:28:130:28:15

I mean, there's no cost at all, is there?

0:28:150:28:17

-The expense here is your time and expertise.

-Absolutely.

0:28:170:28:21

It's time, it's man hours.

0:28:210:28:22

Those are the things that make it a more expensive product.

0:28:220:28:25

With his eye, as ever, on the final taste test,

0:28:250:28:28

Gregg decides to check out the cheaper competition.

0:28:280:28:31

Right, there's them, but there's also some oven chips.

0:28:310:28:35

-Brilliant!

-Can we put these in the oven?

-Of course we can.

0:28:350:28:38

-What will you do if they turn out crispy and lovely?

-They won't.

0:28:380:28:41

Chef Kerridge's next step to create the perfect chip

0:28:430:28:46

is the double fry and the fat matters too.

0:28:460:28:50

He always fries in duck fat for added flavour.

0:28:500:28:53

This probably is on 140.

0:28:540:28:56

Then we're going to slowly let the bubbles come out.

0:28:560:28:59

So these have been in here for about ten minutes.

0:29:010:29:05

Bung them into here.

0:29:050:29:07

These are rested for a further ten minutes,

0:29:080:29:11

and then plunged back into the oil at 180 degrees.

0:29:110:29:14

This gives the chips their crunch.

0:29:140:29:16

Supermarket bakers, we've got the reds,

0:29:160:29:20

and these are the super bad boys.

0:29:200:29:23

Like pebbles, weren't it?

0:29:230:29:26

Now they are out, the roosters

0:29:260:29:27

-actually, undoubtedly, look the best.

-Yeah.

0:29:270:29:29

They're the best even colouring. They are toasty.

0:29:290:29:32

The others look wrong.

0:29:320:29:33

-There we have crinkle cut oven chips.

-Oh, dear.

-There we go.

0:29:360:29:42

I'm hoping that my staff

0:29:420:29:44

will definitely be able to tell the difference.

0:29:440:29:46

So, Tom's staff must spot the boss' preferred chip.

0:29:480:29:51

Ever get the feeling your job's on the line?

0:29:510:29:55

HE MOUTHS

0:29:550:29:56

Crunchy on the outside, soft on the inside.

0:29:590:30:00

Better than the last one.

0:30:000:30:02

You liked Chef's chip the best.

0:30:020:30:04

-Oh, splendid.

-Well done, son.

0:30:040:30:06

How was that?

0:30:080:30:10

It's a bit softer inside.

0:30:100:30:11

It's got a nicer flavour on the outside, I think.

0:30:110:30:13

-Chef will be chuffed.

-Brilliant!

-You liked his best.

0:30:130:30:16

This...

0:30:160:30:18

-It's dry.

-Too dry?

-Yeah.

0:30:240:30:27

All five of Tom's staff then keep their jobs,

0:30:270:30:30

choosing his triple-cooked Rooster chip.

0:30:300:30:32

And, in this blind taste test, it seems you get what you pay for.

0:30:320:30:36

Sorry, Chris.

0:30:360:30:37

It goes to show that cooking method can result in a great chip.

0:30:370:30:41

Not from a frozen packet, into a tray and in the oven.

0:30:410:30:44

-I find a bit of comfort in that, don't you?

-Yeah, absolutely.

0:30:440:30:47

Gregg will be serving fresh triple-cooked chips

0:30:470:30:50

fried in duck fat in the final taste-off.

0:30:500:30:53

-I'm going to get out of your hair.

-Thank you.

0:30:530:30:55

-Cheers.

-Cheers, Gregg, take care.

0:30:550:30:58

Chris, meanwhile is back hunting for cheaper alternatives

0:31:010:31:04

in the world of mass production.

0:31:040:31:06

I know there's mums and dads up and down the country,

0:31:060:31:08

that need something, cost-effective, quick and tasty

0:31:080:31:11

to feed their little ones on a regular basis,

0:31:110:31:13

which is why I'm here at a chip factory in Norfolk.

0:31:130:31:15

Inside, muddy potatoes are transformed into around ten million

0:31:200:31:24

oven-ready chips, every single day.

0:31:240:31:26

What we have done is we have peeled the potatoes.

0:31:280:31:31

Do you use steam to peel them?

0:31:310:31:32

You literally blast the skin off with steam?

0:31:320:31:36

Over three billion meals a year in Britain are eaten with chips.

0:31:360:31:40

Two thirds of which, we buy frozen.

0:31:400:31:43

Mass freezing techniques have come a long way in recent years

0:31:430:31:46

and it's not just chips.

0:31:460:31:48

We eat about 500 million pounds' worth

0:31:480:31:51

of frozen fruit and veg every year.

0:31:510:31:54

They didn't look like this a minute ago.

0:31:540:31:56

-No, what we have done now is we've cut the potatoes into chips.

-Yeah.

0:31:560:32:00

What we do is we fire the potato, effectively a metal tennis racket.

0:32:000:32:05

-OK.

-It cuts it into little strips.

0:32:050:32:07

-What's this, Simon?

-Well, this is our top-secret coating.

0:32:080:32:12

-I can't really tell you what's in it.

-It looks like burger sauce.

0:32:120:32:16

It's not that, but needless to say, it's all natural ingredients.

0:32:160:32:20

Excellent!

0:32:200:32:21

Fascinating fact time.

0:32:210:32:23

Oven chips often get their crunch by being coated

0:32:230:32:26

in a flour and milk batter.

0:32:260:32:28

-So what's happening here?

-These chips have been cooked three times.

0:32:290:32:32

Three times now.

0:32:320:32:34

Now they've gone through a dryer and two fryers.

0:32:340:32:36

What is pretty much the finished product.

0:32:360:32:38

-Could I eat one of these?

-Well, they're not fully cooked, but you certainly could.

0:32:380:32:42

Yeah, not far off, is it?

0:32:470:32:48

They need a final cook at home

0:32:480:32:50

but they're pretty much the finished article.

0:32:500:32:52

There we go. Frozen chips.

0:32:570:33:00

They have been cut, cooked and frozen.

0:33:000:33:02

And frozen, and now we send them off to be packed.

0:33:020:33:04

That's fascinating in there.

0:33:080:33:10

These guys are taking this

0:33:100:33:11

and turning it into this within an hour-and-a-half.

0:33:110:33:14

Ten million of these a day they're making.

0:33:140:33:16

Who needs a Michelin-star restaurant, Gregg,

0:33:160:33:18

you can eat these in your own home.

0:33:180:33:20

Chris has been sold on oven chips

0:33:210:33:23

and will be serving them in the final taste-off.

0:33:230:33:26

They are not only cheaper than their deep-fried rivals,

0:33:260:33:29

they are also a healthier option, although it's always worth

0:33:290:33:32

checking the pack to find the lowest fat chips.

0:33:320:33:35

Especially, if you're on a diet.

0:33:350:33:39

And speaking of diets, anyone on one stop listening now.

0:33:390:33:43

A 400 gram portion of chips from your local shop contains

0:33:430:33:46

956 calories!

0:33:460:33:49

Today, the boys are wolfing down

0:33:500:33:52

a measly 25 gram handful of their chosen chip

0:33:520:33:55

to see how long it takes to burn off those calories.

0:33:550:33:59

Good luck, Gregg!

0:33:590:34:01

It looks a fair old way round, doesn't it?

0:34:020:34:04

Oh, look at this, this is a lot steeper than I thought.

0:34:040:34:07

-Have you been on a bike recently?

-Not for a long, long time.

0:34:070:34:10

No, nor me.

0:34:100:34:11

How many circuits of a South London velodrome will it take for Gregg

0:34:110:34:14

and Chris to burn off a handful of their chosen chips?

0:34:140:34:19

Viewers of a nervous disposition might like to look away now.

0:34:220:34:25

Come on, Gregg, what are you playing at?

0:34:250:34:28

-Oh, oh, oh, look at you.

-I don't really look like a cyclist, do I?

0:34:280:34:33

I'm not sure fluorescent green is your colour.

0:34:330:34:36

Oh!

0:34:360:34:38

This is steeper than it looks, isn't it?

0:34:380:34:40

It scarily steep to be honest, mate.

0:34:400:34:42

Trying to burn the calories off, your triple-cooked gourmet chips.

0:34:420:34:46

How many laps is it going to take to burn them off?

0:34:460:34:48

You might be here longer than me, I think, my oven chips.

0:34:480:34:50

Are you going to be all right on that, do you need stabilisers?

0:34:540:34:57

-Do you know what, I feel nervous.

-You should be in that top, an' all.

0:34:590:35:02

-Are you ready to go?

-I think I am, yeah.

0:35:020:35:05

BELL RINGS

0:35:050:35:07

GREGG MOANS

0:35:070:35:09

-I thought that was going to be the toughest bit.

-Yeah, yeah.

0:35:090:35:12

Moaning after 17 metres? Really, Gregg!

0:35:120:35:16

Chips away!

0:35:160:35:17

BELL RINGS

0:35:200:35:22

That's one lap successfully completed.

0:35:220:35:24

How long do you reckon they are going to have us out here?

0:35:240:35:26

We are going to be here all day. To burn off 25 grams' worth of chips.

0:35:260:35:30

BELL RINGS

0:35:300:35:31

I've got a feeling I must almost be there, you know.

0:35:420:35:45

BELL RINGS

0:35:460:35:49

After 1,100 metres, Chris has burnt off the calories from his oven chips.

0:35:490:35:53

But, for Gregg, the end is not in sight.

0:35:530:35:57

You're on your own, Gregg.

0:35:580:36:00

-Keep going.

-I'm on me own.

0:36:000:36:02

So I did 3.5 minutes out there which is just short of three laps.

0:36:050:36:09

Gregg is still going. I've got a feeling he might be out there for quite some time.

0:36:090:36:12

I think he must be regretting his lovely all-singing,

0:36:120:36:15

all-dancing, triple-cooked, super-duper, duck fat chips.

0:36:150:36:18

BELL RINGS

0:36:180:36:20

Whereas, my oven chips, you pay less for them in the beginning

0:36:210:36:25

and you pay less for them afterwards. It's a simple choice for me.

0:36:250:36:28

BELL RINGS

0:36:280:36:30

Keep going.

0:36:320:36:34

Give me an oven chip!

0:36:340:36:36

CHRIS LAUGHS

0:36:360:36:37

-Oh, oh...

-You've had to do a few more than me, haven't you?

-Oh, mate!

0:36:470:36:51

-Is that you are done.

-Whoa!

0:36:510:36:54

Oh...

0:36:540:36:55

That's the hardest bowl of chips I've ever ridden.

0:36:580:37:02

There you go. Your triple-cooked duck fat chips

0:37:020:37:04

have got more than one cost, haven't they?

0:37:040:37:06

-How long did you do?

-I was only 3.5 minutes, I was out there.

0:37:060:37:10

-Eight minutes, I did.

-Eight minutes.

0:37:100:37:12

-Eight minutes for 25 grams of chips.

-That's nearly three times, isn't it?

0:37:120:37:15

You've got to question whether it's worth it, haven't you?

0:37:150:37:18

And you've paid more for them in the first place.

0:37:180:37:20

So if you've got half an hour to ride off your lunch,

0:37:200:37:22

then by all means have some triple-cooked chips.

0:37:220:37:25

If not, maybe turn your oven on.

0:37:250:37:28

Seeing as we are here, do you fancy another couple of laps around?

0:37:280:37:31

-Really?

-Come on. When in Rome, let's go.

0:37:310:37:35

The boys need to get off their bikes and back on the road.

0:37:350:37:39

Soon they will be serving up their version of fish and chips to see

0:37:390:37:42

whether it's worth paying more for this classic British dish.

0:37:420:37:46

So far, Gregg's fished the Devonshire coastline

0:37:480:37:51

and hand caught a fresh cod.

0:37:510:37:53

Oh! Look at him!

0:37:530:37:56

The kind that sell for top dollar to top restaurants,

0:37:580:38:00

less than 24 hours after landing.

0:38:000:38:03

-I think it was seven pounds a kilo.

-Oh, seven pounds a kilo.

0:38:030:38:06

That makes my fish nearly 30 quid and I know where it's going.

0:38:060:38:11

Chris braved the Norwegian seas on an industrial factory ship

0:38:110:38:15

which catches and quick-freezes thousands of fish daily.

0:38:150:38:19

This was swimming in the ocean only three hours ago.

0:38:190:38:22

Spot the big difference? One fresh fish, one quick-frozen.

0:38:220:38:27

And it's not just fish and chips you can buy in the frozen aisle.

0:38:290:38:31

Nowadays you can freeze pretty much anything.

0:38:310:38:35

So does fresh produce always taste better than frozen?

0:38:360:38:40

Excuse me, I like your dog and I need your help.

0:38:400:38:43

Gregg certainly seems to think so

0:38:430:38:45

and with an eye on the final taste test,

0:38:450:38:47

he's hit the streets for a spot of market research.

0:38:470:38:50

-Does Mum eat her greens?

-Yeah.

-She does.

0:38:500:38:52

Mum, I've got two bowls of broccoli, it's all I've got.

0:38:520:38:55

I want you to taste them and tell me which one you like the most.

0:38:550:38:58

On the white napkin is frozen broccoli

0:38:580:39:00

and on the red napkin is fresh, which costs nearly twice as much.

0:39:000:39:04

-I think that one.

-The one on the white napkin?

-Yeah.

0:39:060:39:08

-That one.

-The one on the white napkin?

-Yeah.

0:39:080:39:12

Erm, yeah, this one.

0:39:120:39:14

-If push came to shove, that one.

-That one.

0:39:140:39:17

-You prefer the one on the white napkin?

-Yeah..

0:39:170:39:19

The white one is frozen vegetables

0:39:190:39:21

-and the one on the red is fresh.

-Oh, right.

0:39:210:39:23

Interestingly, the one you like is frozen and the other one is fresh.

0:39:230:39:26

-Oh.

-Fresh is supposed to be nicer

0:39:260:39:28

but I can't tell the difference with those.

0:39:280:39:30

Do you know what? Neither can anybody else.

0:39:300:39:33

The first one tastes very slightly more tasty than that second one.

0:39:330:39:37

You are the first person to pick the fresh out.

0:39:370:39:40

-Maybe I'm a bit of a broccoli genius!

-You are a broccoli expert.

0:39:400:39:44

-The frozen one is half the price of the fresh one.

-Right.

0:39:440:39:46

-Does that not surprise you?

-It does, yeah.

0:39:460:39:48

-You would think that would be more tasty.

-Would you buy frozen veg?

0:39:480:39:51

Erm, usually I don't buy it because I don't like the taste of it.

0:39:510:39:54

But, maybe now I will.

0:39:540:39:56

I'm absolutely amazed by the outcome of the broccoli test.

0:39:560:39:59

Virtually everybody picked the frozen one as their favourite.

0:39:590:40:02

The only difference, as I could see, really,

0:40:020:40:04

was the more vivid colour on the fresh.

0:40:040:40:07

Everybody liked the frozen.

0:40:070:40:09

Bad luck, Gregg, it seems the Great British public

0:40:090:40:12

think lower cost produce can taste great.

0:40:120:40:15

-Bye.

-Get your broccoli. Get your broccoli. It's lovely.

0:40:150:40:19

So with broccoli, we couldn't really taste the difference, but why not?

0:40:190:40:23

Time for a science lesson. What happens when you freeze food

0:40:230:40:27

and how does it affect the final taste?

0:40:270:40:29

This clever lady in the lab coat has been examining samples of fresh

0:40:290:40:33

and frozen cod.

0:40:330:40:35

Right, what are we looking at here?

0:40:350:40:36

What we have got here are some thin slices taken through fresh cod

0:40:360:40:41

-and cod that has been quickly frozen.

-What are we looking for?

0:40:410:40:45

What's good, what's bad?

0:40:450:40:47

What happens when you freeze the fish is that the water forms ice

0:40:470:40:51

and if you do it slowly,

0:40:510:40:53

then it forms really large ice crystals,

0:40:530:40:55

which then when you thaw it out and batter it

0:40:550:40:57

and put it into a deep fat fryer, the fish can be tougher

0:40:570:41:01

because it hasn't got all the water that was there in that fresh fish.

0:41:010:41:04

-Ah...

-So it dehydrates it?

-It dehydrates it.

0:41:040:41:07

If you freeze it quickly, when you've just caught it,

0:41:070:41:10

say out in the sea, and you keep it well frozen,

0:41:100:41:14

then the ice crystals are smaller and, effectively,

0:41:140:41:16

when you thaw it out, deep fry it, it can take the water back up again.

0:41:160:41:20

Under a microscope, Gregg's fresh cod looks best

0:41:200:41:24

as Chris's fish is full of ice particles.

0:41:240:41:26

But Chris's regains most of its quality

0:41:260:41:29

once it's defrosted and cooked. Got that, boys?

0:41:290:41:32

If it's freshly caught, goes into a blast freezer quickly frozen,

0:41:340:41:38

than the quality can be just as good as a fresh fish.

0:41:380:41:41

Hang on a minute.

0:41:410:41:43

We're talking about freezing this as well as we can

0:41:430:41:47

-so it mostly resembles a fresh fish?

-Yeah.

0:41:470:41:51

But, of course, we are all agreeing

0:41:510:41:54

that the fresh fish is what we should be aiming at?

0:41:540:41:57

It is if you can catch it and eat it within 12 hours of catching it.

0:41:570:42:04

The longer it is out of the water, it's deteriorating,

0:42:040:42:06

whereas the freezing process will stop that breakdown.

0:42:060:42:09

You believe that fish very quickly frozen

0:42:090:42:13

could possibly be as good as fresh?

0:42:130:42:15

Yes, I think so.

0:42:150:42:17

So for shoppers like me, the message you say is quite clear.

0:42:170:42:21

Frozen fish from the shop can be quality

0:42:210:42:24

but there is no way you can tell on the box...

0:42:240:42:26

-How long it's been in the freezer.

-Or, how quickly they froze it.

0:42:260:42:29

At least with a fresh fish you know it's fresh.

0:42:290:42:32

I mean, we're not saying there is a huge difference

0:42:320:42:35

between fresh and frozen, as long as the frozen

0:42:350:42:37

-is frozen quick enough.

-Yeah.

-That's it.

-That's it.

0:42:370:42:41

You don't need to feel bad about buying frozen fish,

0:42:410:42:43

as long as the fish is frozen quickly.

0:42:430:42:45

I've had that scientist's point of view,

0:42:450:42:47

it is a little bit controversial. I'm not sure that I agree.

0:42:470:42:49

What I would really like is to get the British public's point of view

0:42:490:42:53

on fresh over frozen cod.

0:42:530:42:54

Almost sounds like you're getting a bit nervous, Gregg.

0:42:540:42:57

The boys will get to test their expensive fresh

0:42:570:43:00

and cheaper frozen fish very soon.

0:43:000:43:04

But, before that, I think it's time for one final mini taste test.

0:43:040:43:08

Fried, baked, cheap or expensive,

0:43:080:43:10

no matter what sort of fish-and-chips take your fancy,

0:43:100:43:13

people up and down the country love to dowse them in vinegar.

0:43:130:43:17

Even polo players in Surrey.

0:43:190:43:21

And, deep in the countryside, these equine lovers have dismounted

0:43:210:43:25

to put five popular vinegars to the test.

0:43:250:43:29

Well, I say "popular".

0:43:290:43:31

We have thrown in a few curveballs

0:43:310:43:32

to see what this lots' refined palates make of them.

0:43:320:43:35

I think fish and chips is not really fish and chips without vinegar.

0:43:350:43:38

They are made to be together.

0:43:380:43:40

So let's start with what most of us buy, malt vinegar.

0:43:400:43:44

ASDA Smart Price is the cheapest in our test,

0:43:440:43:47

followed by market leader Sarson's,

0:43:470:43:50

then we leave malt and get a bit posh with Maille's cider vinegar.

0:43:500:43:54

Before moving a little left-field with El Majuelo Macetilla,

0:43:540:43:59

a sherry vinegar.

0:43:590:44:02

And, finally, Belazu Balsamic, you might like to save up for this one.

0:44:020:44:06

To be a balsamic, it must come from Modena in Italy.

0:44:060:44:09

I bet you didn't know that!

0:44:090:44:11

So, will our polo players plump for the pricey products,

0:44:150:44:18

or value vinegars?

0:44:180:44:20

It's really good, that one.

0:44:200:44:21

That one is good.

0:44:230:44:24

That's proper vinegar.

0:44:240:44:25

That one is terrible.

0:44:250:44:27

A, I found was very watery

0:44:270:44:29

and just soaked up the chips into making them quite a soggy mess.

0:44:290:44:34

-It tastes like cider that's gone off.

-Yeah.

0:44:340:44:36

This one's nice and sweet and I like sweet things

0:44:360:44:38

so it worked quite well for me.

0:44:380:44:40

Time to reveal the winner.

0:44:410:44:43

-Ah...

-They've chosen the priciest vinegar, Belazu Balsamic,

0:44:460:44:50

at a huge £5.20 per 100 millilitres.

0:44:500:44:54

I've had cheaper wine than that.

0:44:540:44:57

It's quite bad that from the polo players

0:44:570:44:59

we were the ones that chose the most expensive one.

0:44:590:45:03

I'm quite surprised the balsamic vinegar came first because

0:45:030:45:06

well, to be honest, it just wasn't a thought that popped up

0:45:060:45:09

that it would be. You thought it would be more regular ones

0:45:090:45:12

like the Sarson's ones.

0:45:120:45:13

So balsamic wins but how did the malts compare?

0:45:130:45:17

The cheaper vinegars, you couldn't tell the difference between the malts

0:45:170:45:20

of the ASDA one that was very basic and the more expensive one.

0:45:200:45:25

There you have it.

0:45:260:45:27

Behind the expensive balsamic was Maille cider in second place.

0:45:270:45:31

Third was the first of the malts

0:45:310:45:33

and the cheapest offering, ASDA Smart Price.

0:45:330:45:36

Fourth, Sarson's malt

0:45:360:45:38

and in fifth place, El Majuelo.

0:45:380:45:41

But, remember, if you are sticking to malt vinegars,

0:45:410:45:44

maybe you don't need to pay those extra pennies.

0:45:440:45:47

And whilst we are looking for ways to save,

0:45:500:45:52

you might like to investigate vinegar's partner in crime, salt.

0:45:520:45:56

Take these two brands of table salt.

0:45:560:45:59

100 grams will set you back 6p for a low-cost option

0:45:590:46:02

and 12p for a well-known brand.

0:46:020:46:05

If you want to get posh,

0:46:050:46:07

then a pure sea salt of version will set you back £1.94.

0:46:070:46:11

Now, sea salt is totally natural

0:46:110:46:15

and not processed, unlike table salt.

0:46:150:46:18

But, considering all salt is mostly made up of, well, salt,

0:46:180:46:23

can you taste the difference?

0:46:230:46:26

Back on the road, there is one last crucial element to finding

0:46:280:46:31

Gregg's search for the very best fish and chips - batter.

0:46:310:46:35

If you want the very best batter,

0:46:350:46:37

you could do worse than calling on another top chef, Tim Hughes.

0:46:370:46:41

-Hello, Chef.

-Hello, Gregg.

-I want a recipe for battered cod.

-Sure.

0:46:410:46:46

-I want the batter.

-Quality beer batter. Sure. I'll show you it.

0:46:460:46:49

-Lovely and crispy. So, we use lager, or you can use a bitter.

-But why beer?

0:46:490:46:53

Because there's already yeast inside the beer, so it's active,

0:46:530:46:56

-so it makes it crispy.

-Got you.

-We use self-raising flour.

-Right.

0:46:560:47:00

-Make it even lighter and fluffy?

-Yeah.

0:47:000:47:02

This batter you can make it, literally, in one minute,

0:47:020:47:05

rest it for about three minutes and then off you go and you cook.

0:47:050:47:08

-Is that it?

-Yeah, so pour the beer in the bowl.

0:47:080:47:11

-If Chris was here now, he'd have his head in that bowl.

-Yeah, pour in the flour.

0:47:110:47:15

-Whisk.

-Just whisk until the lumps are gone.

0:47:150:47:18

Yeah, whisk until the lumps are gone.

0:47:180:47:20

-See, smooth?

-Yeah.

-It's the right consistency.

0:47:200:47:23

Put a pinch of cayenne for the devilness.

0:47:230:47:26

Just a splash of soya, only a splash.

0:47:260:47:28

It gives the colour when the fish are frying,

0:47:280:47:30

it gives a slightly golden colour. And there's...

0:47:300:47:33

-There's the batter.

-That is easy and has cost nothing.

0:47:330:47:37

Well, it's the cost of the beer.

0:47:370:47:39

Do you know what, I would've thought that the bubbles in lager

0:47:390:47:42

would have helped to keep the batter light

0:47:420:47:44

-but that's not it.

-No.

-It's the yeast.

0:47:440:47:46

Well, even I could make that!

0:47:460:47:48

See, that's great. That is quality.

0:47:530:47:55

I don't know what Chris has got in mind

0:47:550:47:57

-but it's not going to be that.

-No.

0:47:570:47:58

Chris is looking for batter but there's not a drop of beer in sight.

0:47:580:48:04

-Hello, mate, how are you doing?

-Hello, Chris. How are you?

-I'm all right, mate.

0:48:040:48:07

I'm just here to pick your brains about batter, if I can.

0:48:070:48:09

-Yeah, come around. Brilliant.

-Thank you very much.

0:48:090:48:12

He's come to his local chippy to find the low-cost alternative.

0:48:120:48:15

So in a beautiful Great British traditional fish-and-chip shop,

0:48:150:48:19

how do you make your batter?

0:48:190:48:21

-We just buy pre-packaged batter like this one.

-OK. What is in this?

0:48:210:48:24

We've got wheat flour, raising agents, soya flour.

0:48:240:48:26

-It's pretty much just flour, is it?

-It's just wheat flour, yeah.

0:48:260:48:29

-Can I have a go at making some?

-Yeah, sure. Get some water.

0:48:290:48:33

-This is just tap water, is it?

-Yeah, just fresh tap water, yeah.

0:48:330:48:35

I know my colleague, Gregg, would probably want us to use

0:48:350:48:38

the finest spring water. How am I getting on here?

0:48:380:48:41

-Keep going.

-Keep going, yeah. Lovely job.

0:48:410:48:44

-How do you know when done?

-It just runs off the whisk. That's lovely.

0:48:440:48:47

-Like this, this is all right, is it?

-That's fine, yeah.

0:48:470:48:50

Now for the bad news.

0:48:500:48:51

A battered cod contains about 11 grams of fat, that's nearly

0:48:510:48:55

a tablespoon of butter

0:48:550:48:56

but that might not be as bad as it used to be.

0:48:560:48:59

Am I wrong in thinking that batter over the years has got thinner.

0:48:590:49:02

I remember when I was at kid, it used to be thick,

0:49:020:49:05

almost thicker than the fish?

0:49:050:49:06

Probably as independent shops there is more competition,

0:49:060:49:09

like McDonald's, Pizza Express, that kind of thing.

0:49:090:49:11

We've got to be more on our game so the quality has got to be better.

0:49:110:49:14

So the thinner the batter, it retains less oil, so it's healthier.

0:49:140:49:18

-The fish is crispy and less fat flavoured, so it tastes better.

-Definitely, yeah.

0:49:180:49:22

Presumably the batter goes much further by being thinner,

0:49:220:49:25

-so represents good value?

-Definitely.

-That'll do for me.

0:49:250:49:29

So the cost of fish, is that going up at the minute?

0:49:290:49:33

Not really, it's sort of stable, maybe it's coming down a fraction.

0:49:330:49:36

-It's actually come down, has it?

-A little bit, yes.

0:49:360:49:39

I went out to Norway and I was on one of these huge, great boats.

0:49:390:49:42

They are out there, line-catching,

0:49:420:49:44

tonnes and tonnes of these fish to get the cost down. So, it's working.

0:49:440:49:47

Definitely, yeah. Definitely.

0:49:470:49:50

So this chip shop owner thinks large-scale fishing abroad

0:49:500:49:54

is helping keep cod affordable.

0:49:540:49:56

One in the eye for Gregg and Chris has found a low-cost batter to boot.

0:49:560:50:01

The time has finally arrived.

0:50:040:50:06

Fitting end to the journey, I feel.

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GREGG LAUGHS

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The boys are back in a very windy Hastings

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for the final public taste test.

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Nice little town, the people will have good palates.

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Obviously appreciate the finer things.

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Be interesting to see, I don't think you're going to impress

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anybody with your posh fish and chips round here, to be honest, Gregg.

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After trawling the UK and Europe for the finest ingredients

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and cheaper alternatives, it's now down to the British public to decide

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whose food tastes better and whether it's worth paying that bit more.

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Ladies and gentleman, lovely to be joining you here in Hastings,

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a wonderful town and we've got something wonderful for you,

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something I know you're going to enjoy.

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-We've got fish and chips for you.

-Today, they've got a choice.

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Gregg's expensive British hand-caught cod in beer batter,

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served with triple-cooked chips and fried in duck fat.

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The ingredients alone cost £2.93.

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Or Chris's frozen-at-sea Norwegian cod, and the humble

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but much healthier oven chip.

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Almost half the price at just £1.83.

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I'm confident you're going to enjoy it because it's one of Britain's

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most popular dishes. As you've all been brought up with it

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you are undoubtedly fish-and-chip experts.

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First of all, you're going to get two different types of chips.

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There's no right or wrong. We just want to know which ones you prefer.

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The public have no idea whose plate is whose.

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Let's face it, Gregg's pricey plates should be streets ahead,

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starting with his triple-cooked chips on the purple plate.

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But can Chris pull off another economy coup

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with his cheaper chips on the green plate?

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Guys, you have the sort of physique that makes me

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think you may have sunk one or two chips in your time.

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-What did you think?

-I didn't really like those.

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-No.

-As far as chips go.

-They were oven chips, weren't they?

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-Definitely oven chips, yeah.

-They were oven chips?

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-That's what they tasted like.

-How would you know?

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Because they're softer in the middle, not as crispy on the outside.

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-Did you like the purple ones?

-Yes.

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So what is the purple ones that you liked?

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-Crispy outside.

-Thicker.

-Thicker.

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I preferred the purple, the texture, the crispiness.

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-They were more enjoyable to eat.

-Who preferred what?

-They were better.

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-They were crunchier.

-What did you think of the green ones?

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They just felt like I could go down to my supermarket,

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buy them at the shop, put them in the oven.

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If I was going out to a fish-and-chip shop and got that,

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I would be a bit upset with it, to be honest.

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-The green one reminded me of school dinners.

-In the '30s, sir?

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Ooh!

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LAUGHTER

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The official results will come later

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but after tasting two quality products, it already

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looks like Gregg's chips are getting the thumbs up.

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What did you make of that?

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Well, I mean it looks like the purple plate is coming out on top.

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These guys haven't voted yet

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so it's all still to play for and I think the fish is the main one.

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I mean, chips, OK. It's all about the fish for me

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and I think if I can get this one, I'll be happy.

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In some of the previous taste tests we've done, Joe Public preferred

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the cheaper option, and now Chris is banking on his lower-cost

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frozen fish tasting just as good as fresh.

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So you just had the yellow and blue plates of fish.

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-Which one did you prefer?

-The blue.

-The blue.

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What was it about the blue that you preferred?

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-It was a lot lighter and the fish was more moist.

-OK.

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The blue plate is Gregg's beer-battered hand-caught cod.

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Chin up, Chris.

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-And the yellow one.

-Dry.

-Which piece of fish came out on top for you?

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-Blue.

-Blue.

-Yeah.

-The fish was soft and the batter was crispy.

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OK. And the yellow, what was wrong with the fish on the yellow plate?

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The fish was drier on the yellow one.

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The fish was drier on the yellow one.

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Sir, excuse me, what did you think of the yellow plate?

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To tell you the truth I wouldn't know the difference.

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-Fair enough, fair enough.

-Yellow or blue?

-Blue.

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-Blue, blue, blue, blue, blue.

-Yeah.

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The blue one tasted fishier. It was nicer.

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Right, now you've all sampled the chips and the fish.

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We need to collect the results. Form an orderly queue.

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We know what you're like down here in Hastings, hooligans. Come on.

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Now, madam, you had purple chips and green chips. Which did you prefer?

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-Green.

-Green chips. And the fish,

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-you had blue and you had yellow?

-Blue.

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-Right, one each, not a bad start.

-Purple chips.

-Purple chips.

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-And blue fish.

-Blue fish. Righto.

-Purple chips.

-Blue fish.

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-Chris, it's a whitewash, an absolute whitewash.

-Purple chips.

-Of course.

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-And blue fish.

-Righto.

-Come on, don't let me down.

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-Green chips.

-Green chips.

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-And yellow fish.

-Are you kidding? Are you kidding?

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Good girl, I knew you looked like you had good taste. Thank you very much.

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It's not looking good for Chris's economy fish and chips.

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-Purple and blue.

-Right. You're not running out of chalk, are you?

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-I'm sweating here!

-Purple and blue.

-Purple and blue.

-Purple and yellow.

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-Purple and yellow! Are you drinking, madam?

-Green and blue.

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-Green and blue.

-Green and blue.

-Purple and blue again.

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Purple and blue.

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Don't need to be a mathematician, do you, to see what's gone on here?

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That's conclusive, isn't it?

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There were 50 of you that sat down so let me tell you what you liked.

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46 people preferred mine.

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What you actually ate and loved was triple-cooked duck fat chips.

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And the alternative was your everyday frozen oven-cooked chips.

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All right, now let me tell you about the cod. OK? Again, overwhelming.

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44 out of 50 preferred my cod.

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What you had there was line-caught British sea-fresh cod. All right?

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So well done.

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And the alternative was caught in the Barents Sea in Norway.

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What is undoubtedly clear to us is that you obviously prefer

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line-caught fresh British fish with old-fashioned fried chips.

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-Well done, ladies and gentlemen.

-Hastings has spoken.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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The windswept locals have chosen the most expensive food today,

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but would they have paid the extra money?

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-You buy something cheap, it tastes cheap.

-You liked the cheaper one.

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But I did like the cheaper one, I'm sorry. I liked the batter on the cheaper one.

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I don't mind paying more, because it was more taste to it.

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I'd always pay more for quality. You get what you pay for.

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So that's what Hastings thinks.

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But remember what we've seen. You can happily save

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on all sorts of everyday items, like sausage rolls and frozen broccoli.

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And this lot don't know how many laps Gregg had to cycle

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to burn off those triple-cooked chips!

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But when it comes to your Friday night fish and chips,

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if you can afford to treat yourself,

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then maybe you'll taste the difference.

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I'm a bit sad, it's all come to an end. The journey's over.

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It's been interesting, hasn't it?

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I don't want to say, "I told you so, Chris,"

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-but you got a lot to learn, son.

-CHRIS LAUGHS

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What it's shown is that people can actually taste the difference

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in the more expensive. Whether they want to pay for the more expensive,

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that's another question.

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They said they would today. I don't think there's a right or wrong.

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I think everything has its place.

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I think the more expensive version has a place,

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as does the cheaper, more standard fare.

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Mate, if it's hot and it's steaming and it's got salt and vinegar,

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it's kind of OK, isn't it?

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Yeah, everybody, no matter what their opinion, has a real soft spot

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for fish and chips. So, to show you I'm magnanimous in defeat,

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Gregg, how about I treat you to a fish and chip supper?

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No, no, no, no more fish and chips. How about a curry?

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-I could go to a curry.

-An expensive curry?

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-Well, if I'm paying, it'll have to be a cheap one.

-Come on. Come on.

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