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The only thing that stands between success and failure at the moment is chance. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
Many of us fantasise about opening our own restaurant. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
And every year, thousands try. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
But with restaurants up to three times more likely to fail | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
than any other business, it's not for the faint hearted. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
Opening up a restaurant just to make money is wrong | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
but it's very important it does make money. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
The restaurant trade can be brutal and I should know. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
I'm Russell Norman. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
After years of dreaming, I set up a series of acclaimed | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
restaurants that now serve half a million customers a year | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
in the cut-throat London market, all during the recent recession. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:42 | |
I definitely say there are rules to opening | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
and running a successful restaurant. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
The difference between success and failure | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
is an obsession with detail. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
You must know your numbers, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
you must do your research, you must be prepared to work very long hours. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
Now, I'm helping six first timers gambling their life savings | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
to start their own restaurants. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
I've got no food and I'm opening in less than 48 hours. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
It is work in progress, | 0:01:08 | 0:01:09 | |
but it needs to be work that isn't in progress, quite soon. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
'I'll try to help them with everything from floor plans | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
'to finance, and menus to marketing.' | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
And then the third plate like that. Now you're a waiter. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
'As newcomers to the business, I'll have to shatter a few illusions.' | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
I mean, this is cute but very impractical. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
-What's the solution, Russell? Tell me. You get another plumber? -That's exactly what you do. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
'Each of these plucky entrepreneurs is hoping their new venture | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
'will give them a better life.' | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
This is all mine and isn't it gorgeous. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
Thank you. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:41 | |
'But unless they get every detail spot on, | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
'it could mean bankruptcy and personal disaster.' | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
I'm scared now. Yeah. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:49 | |
I'm very sacred. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
-BELL RINGS -This time: | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
I think you need to look at your customers first and your profit margins second. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
We'll see later, shall we? Let the battle commence. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
It's not...it's not a battle. These are your friends. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
'I'm in the Cotswolds where local farmer, Dave, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
'and his girlfriend, Debbie, want to open a gastropub.' | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
From the farm to the plate, you know. Picked, on plate tonight. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
They've got grand plans for their home-grown, posh pub grub. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
£25 for a main is steep. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
I would not be very inclined to pay that sort of price for a fillet steak. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
'But with full-time jobs...' | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
-That sounds insane, are you serious? -Yeah, serious. I do the lot. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
So you are taking on the pub on top of full-time responsibility? | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
Absolutely. We are, yeah. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
'And a hands-on build...' | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
BLEEP! | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
'Will their dream of delicious local food be a flash in the pan?' | 0:02:41 | 0:02:46 | |
Selling the fresh stuff from the farm, I think we've got something | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
-nobody else has got around here at present. -Chef, are you OK? | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
Look at them, they are not able to clean. They don't realise. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
I'm going to have to show it to him. It's almost inedible. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
Good luck. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
They open in an hour and a half and they've just left. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
I'm in rural Gloucestershire to meet two people who like a challenge - | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
Dave and girlfriend Debbie. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
-I got my watering cans, so we're all right. -Cool. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
Oh, this one looks a bit dodgy. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
Dave's been producing food on his smallholding for the past three years. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
Food is something that I adore. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
From growing our own stuff at home, doing our own produce, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
our own beef, our own lamb. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
We sort of discussed about it and it's quite nice to share it with other people. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
This door's going to be open through. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
A year ago he met Debbie | 0:03:48 | 0:03:49 | |
and they dreamed of running their own pub, serving their own produce. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:54 | |
This room here opened up into a restaurant. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
Now they've bought The Bell Inn, | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
a tired old watering hole in the village of Selsley. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
We came and looked at it and sort of fell in love with it, really, straight away. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
This used to be my local and I've bought it. It's crazy! | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
What we want to try and do is make it a community pub | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
because this is probably the only thing left in the village. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
Pooling all their savings, including the money from selling | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
Debbie's house, they've spent £220,000 on the premises. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:24 | |
With just £100,000 left for the renovation, they'll need to do | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
a lot of the work themselves. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
The new drain for the extension... | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
'Looking forward to meeting Russell today. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
Little bit nervous, probably him saying | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
we've gone into the wrong business at the wrong time | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
but he's got the experience and that so, hopefully, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
we can ask him some questions, he can come up with some ideas and it sort of moves forward really. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
And you never know, he might want to be a shareholder in it! | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
-Hi. -Hi, Russell. -I'm Russell. You are Dave? -Dave. Pleased to meet you. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
-Lovely to meet you. -And lovely to meet you too, Debbie. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
Welcome to The Bell. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:58 | |
-Wow. So, it's a building site. -A building site, yeah. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:04 | |
-This is going to be half of the restaurant. -Right. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
We're going to integrate this room and the room next door | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
to make it a larger restaurant area. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
OK, tell me a bit more about it. What sort of food will you be serving, for example, Debbie? | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
We're going to concentrate on game predominantly. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
So the concept here is we want to have fine dining | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
-in this restaurant area next door. -Right, OK. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
Is this a business that's driven from the heart or from the head, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
-would you say, Debbie? -I would say a bit of both. -Right. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
-The heart for me because this used to be my local pub for about ten years. -Did it? | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
So that's the heart side of it. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
The head side is literally the business concept. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
It couldn't be a worse time for amateurs to go into the pub industry. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:47 | |
26 close each week | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
and it's especially tough for small independents. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
Most of the pubs in this country are run by multinationals that have a | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
huge corporate structure behind them in order to make them successful. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
So if you're an independent publican you really need to up your ante | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
and provide something special. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
Their quiet country location doesn't help. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
Without the passing footfall of a town, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
they'll need to attract locals and destination diners alike. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
-So basically, we're coming into the main bar area now. -All right. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
So the structural work to be done, who's going to do all that? | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
I'll be project managing the whole lot. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
I find the best way to do it, is to do it yourself, get on with it. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
If you've got to work long hours, long hours is what it's going to take. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
True, but I'm also aware you've got a day job, haven't you, Dave? Which is running...? | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
We do contracting, so we're fencing forestry contractors at the moment. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:44 | |
-We're quite busy on that. -But you have a farm as well. -Yeah. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
-That sounds insane. Are you serious? -Yeah, serious, I do the lot. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
-It'll be fine, no problem at all. -What do you do, Debbie? | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
I've got a full-time job and I manage a contact centre. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
-Do you enjoy that? -Yes, I do. I'm very lucky. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
I'm one of the few people in this world that absolutely love | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
-and enjoy my job. -So you're going to continue to do that? -Yeah. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
Buying The Bell was not a get-out-of-jail card to leave my job. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
So you, like Dave, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
are taking on the pub on top of full-time responsibility? | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
-Absolutely, we are. -You're both doing exactly the same? | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
-Yeah, we sound like we're absolutely mad... -I'm glad you said it. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
'I can't believe what I'm hearing. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
'It's a classic mistake to think running a pub is easy. It's not. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:28 | |
'It's a relentless, time-consuming business.' | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
Dave and Debbie are really fired up about this project. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
And that, of course, is a huge bonus. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
But I worry they are going to get to a point where they're going to burn themselves out. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:43 | |
They don't have a clue how much work they've given themselves. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
The astonishing thing is, they've given it to themselves voluntarily. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
But I do think they're on to something special | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
with their field-to-plate dining. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
We've got cabbages in here, cauliflowers, then we go into some leeks. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
If you can come out and pick something like that today and eat it tonight, it's absolutely fantastic. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:06 | |
Since the recent horse meat scandal, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:09 | |
food provenance is more important than ever. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
Serving home-grown ingredients will help Dave and Debbie | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
compete against the big chains. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
More and more people want to know traceability. They want it local. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
With the farm less than five miles away, we can do things fresh, daily. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
These were just eating the veggie garden really | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
so they had to be sacrificed. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
'And they hope that one of the highlights of their menu | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
'will be game, shot by Dave.' | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
And if you were to put this on the menu on the restaurant, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
in what form would this be offered? | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
We'd probably do a rabbit casserole or something. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
What we'll probably do is freeze this down now to the winter, really, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
because it would be more of a winter product than a summer product, really. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
How would you describe the food offer in the pub and the restaurant? | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
I would describe it as good fine dining in the restaurant | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
with also good pub grub in the bar area. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
OK, so quite formal in the restaurant or..? | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
Yeah, formal, your higher end of the scale, really. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
That's what we're hoping to plan for because we're hanging our beef | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
in the cold room here so good steaks, nice, thick, juicy steaks. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:17 | |
It's not going to be cheap then? | 0:09:17 | 0:09:18 | |
It's going to be reasonably expensive, would you say? | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
I would say in the area, we would be higher on our top end. £20 a mark. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
-£20 a head. -£20 a head for the main course. -Just for the main course? | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
Really? So £20 for a good main course. Starters at around what? | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
Starters probably about, sort of somewhere around £7.95 to £9.95, | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
somewhere around that. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
So you're talking about an average spend of £40-£45 a head with wine. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
-That's what we're hoping to achieve, yes. -Which is pretty top end. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
-It is top end... -That's London prices. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
It is London prices but we're going to give a fresh product, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
you know, that nobody else is doing. We need to niche that market. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
With average annual incomes in the Cotswolds | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
just a third of the capital's, charging London prices is punchy. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:05 | |
Rural diners will usually only pay higher prices once a place | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
has built its reputation. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:10 | |
Let's get some of this cleared and get some food. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
A bit of flare! | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
There's no question the food is delicious. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
The fillet just melts in your mouth and I love the burger | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
and love the sausages. Really spectacularly good. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
But what I wanted to talk about was the business side of things. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
Do you think your offer is at the right point in the market? | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
You've talked about your venison fillet being around the £20 mark. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:45 | |
I think that's too high. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
It depends what sort of market you're going into. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
If you're going to get people who want to come out for one nice meal once a month, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
they don't mind spending for good quality. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
You've got to offer something they can't cook at home. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
Let me put it another way, I think it would be too high for me | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
and I eat out a lot. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:04 | |
But I think standing outside The Bell Inn after you've opened | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
and looking at your menu and looking at the prices you're suggesting, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
I might not go in. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:13 | |
No, it's a good point. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
66% of your pub/restaurant area | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
is given over to what you described as fine dining | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
and I just don't want you to start this with an operation | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
and a restaurant, and a pricing structure | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
that puts people like me off at the front door. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
I think, what I'm trying to say is, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
you just need to make your offer a little simpler to start with... | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
-And build it. -..and build it. -Yeah, that's a good point. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
It's been an interesting first day and I'm excited by this project | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
but there are three big issues that I want to tackle. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
First, Dave and Debbie's pricing is just too high. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:54 | |
Second, they need to be realistic about their time. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
They can't run this pub properly with full-time jobs. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:03 | |
And finally, with Dave managing the building works, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
I worry he'll be distracted from the fundamentals of the business - | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
the service and the food. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
A month later and Dave is certainly putting in the hours to keep | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
the build on schedule. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
Quite exciting really. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
We've levelled out the front, now we're knocking the toilet block down. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
This is going to be our new glazed dining conservatory area. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
He's making good progress | 0:12:38 | 0:12:39 | |
but at this stage he should also be costing his menu and setting prices. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:44 | |
'You know, it can be really detrimental to your business | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
'if you price your menu too high in the early days.' | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
First impressions are really important, as is word of mouth. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
And if your menu is too expensive, people will talk about it | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
'and very quickly word will get out that it's an expensive place' | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
and you don't want to go there. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
But after researching some local menus... | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
Rump steak, £17.50 which I think is expensive. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
..Dave and Debbie are convinced I'm wrong. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
I think we'd like to challenge him on it based on the facts we've got presented in front of us. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:26 | |
You know, Gloucestershire, the Stroud area, is an expensive place. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
I'm confident, and Debbie's confident, that we've got our pricing right. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
'There's only one way to gauge what people will pay for their food | 0:13:37 | 0:13:42 | |
'and that's to ask their potential customers. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
'I've come back to Selsley to test out some of Dave and Debbie's dishes in the village hall.' | 0:13:45 | 0:13:51 | |
Hello. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
'Getting direct feedback from your customer base before you open | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
'is an opportunity for which most new restaurateurs would | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
'give their eye teeth. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
'But Dave thinks it's a waste of his time.' | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
I'm running round like a blue-arsed fly. I'm now off site now. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
To be honest with you, I'm probably less confident | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
that it's going to give us any result, really. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
'Despite Dave's reluctance, we've ploughed on. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
'To reflect the fact we're in a village hall, Dave has agreed | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
'to discount his prices but I still think they're too high.' | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
-£15. Really? -Yeah. -It's expensive. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
Not for a haunch steak. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:31 | |
You're confident that £15 is a good price for a village hall? | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
If we sold it... What we've got to try and do is reflect on | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
-what we're going to sell it in the pub for. -Let me ask a slightly different question. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
-Are you willing to accept feedback from these people? -I will take feedback. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
I will explain to them we are selling something that's unique. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
There's not many places do it and it is an expensive meat. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
There's only so much that the customer will be interested | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
in the story of the venison and which part of the animal it's from. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
I think if you're going to travel somewhere to have a meal, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
I've done it myself, you're not going to travel somewhere | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
and have a £10 meal, are you? | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
This area is quite expensive when you go out to dine. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
Right. Do you think that because people have a bit more money here, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
-do you think those are the people that will come to The Bell Inn? -We want to be a pub that's quality, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
-not necessarily quantity. -Really? -Yeah. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
But would it not be better to be absolutely packed to the rafters, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
-people queueing up outside to get in? -We've got a lot of pubs in the area doing cheaper versions of food | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
and they're all dead, so let's do something nobody else is doing. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
Listening to you, Dave, I get the impression there's a little bit of snobbery. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
-No, I'm no snob, mate. -But you always get... | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
Are you saying that you don't want people in your pub that are | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
-just having a pint of lager? -No. They're more than welcome. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
-But we will not put up with people with bad behaviour. -But that's different. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
I just wonder whether you have an impression of The Bell Inn | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
as being the sort of place | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
where the car park is full of brand-new Range Rovers. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
-That'd be nice, wouldn't it? -Would it, though? -They'll have the fillets, won't they? | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
No, not necessarily. I think... | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
in the early days, it will dictate to us where we're going. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
We've got to look at our profit margin, so everything will be done, | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
-when our chef comes... -I think you need to look at your customers first | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
-and your profit margins second. -We'll see later, shall we? | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
-We will. -Let the battle commence. -It's not a battle. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
-These are your friends. -They're not. I don't know any of them. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
These are your potential customers. This is your livelihood. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
I've never actually tried venison. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
It's quite rich but I think you'd probably like it. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
Hopefully, we haven't scared too many people off. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
-That's Debbie over there, by the way, anyway. -OK. Thank you. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
You must put in. Please. Honestly, do pop in. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
-Hi, folks. You all went for the sausages? -Yes. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
-How are they? -Very nice. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
Just monitoring it, making sure they're all right. Good burgers, guys. Good burgers. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
This is a really good indication of what your food does to people. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
-They're enjoying it, they're tucking in. Lots of empty plates. -The lady down there, she said, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
"I would never normally eat venison. I'll have it again." | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
We had the fillet venison. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
-You both have the fillet venison? -Yeah, both of us. -How was it? | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
-Amazing. -Really nice. -It's good, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
If you were to pay £25 for that steak, cos I think that's what | 0:17:19 | 0:17:24 | |
-they'll be charging in the pub, do you still think that's good value? -I think as a start-up, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
you don't want to scare people off straightaway with things that are | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
really expensive on the menu. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
£25 for a main in Selsley... | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
-It is a bit steep. -It is steep, yeah, basically. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
-I'm not sure I'd pay that for a main... -No. -..even for venison steak. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
For the average family or for a couple going out for a night out | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
or if I was going out with a group of friends, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
I would not be very inclined | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
to pay that sort of price for a fillet steak. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
We know of pubs in the area that neglected their local community | 0:17:54 | 0:17:59 | |
-and went upmarket and failed as a result. -Really? -Yes. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:05 | |
-That's interesting. -So you ignore your local residents at your peril. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
Interesting. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
-If you look at the sales from tonight... -Yeah, go on. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
-If you bunch them in terms of... -That's unfair though, isn't it? | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
..low-cost items and steak items, yeah, it's exactly twice | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
the number of low-cost items sold to the number of steaks sold. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
I think the big lesson that we need to learn from this evening is | 0:18:27 | 0:18:33 | |
that people like places that are busy, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
people like places that offer great value | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
and that's the area that your pub needs to occupy. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
You need to look at the people that live in the village | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
and live in neighbouring villages and you need to make that pub | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
appeal to all of those people, initially. And then phase two, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:54 | |
further down the line, when you've got the place absolutely packed | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
to the rafters, that's when you can start experimenting | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
and putting higher-priced items on. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
I have done a lot of research on this and I think our pricing format... | 0:19:01 | 0:19:06 | |
And as it showed tonight, people weren't really bothered about price. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
-It's about quality. -No, I think people are bothered about price. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
I find Dave just so frustrating. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
He talks round and round in circles and continually misses the point. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:24 | |
And the big problem with Dave is that he allows his passion | 0:19:24 | 0:19:29 | |
to cloud his judgment. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
He's so focused on quality that he seems to be forgetting | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
about quantity and quantity is essential in a new business. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
It's all about bums on seats. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
High prices mean fewer customers which means no atmosphere | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
which in turn puts off potential customers. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
It's a vicious circle and one of the main reasons restaurants fail. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
As they progress with the build, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
I hope they'll think hard about pricing. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
But I also need them to realise just how tough life is going to get | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
once their pub opens. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
It's 6pm and Debbie has worked an eight-hour day at the office. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
It's been a very busy day as always. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
Dave was up at 5am on the farm, also working a full day. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:26 | |
Yeah, we've got to go water the garden now. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
OK, great. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
They still have farm chores to do, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
and after all this both of them think they're going to be able | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
to manage a full night running their pub. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
So many people think that running a pub is easy. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
They think it's just a case of standing behind the bar pulling | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
some pints, taking some money and hanging out with your mates. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
But it isn't. It's very hard work. It's hugely long hours. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
So tonight I'm sending Dave and Debbie down the road | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
to the Old Badger Inn. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
It's a busy local serving food all night and I'm putting them | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
in charge until closing time. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
-Are you ready for that challenge? -We are. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
You look as if you're ready for this. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
Can I ring my mates and get them down here for free beer all night? | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
We can talk about that later. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
OK, that's what you're aiming for. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
Debbie has never even pulled a pint before. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
It's coming up really nicely. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
And Dave has no experience whatsoever in catering. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
-How you doing, mate, you all right? -How you doing? -I'm good, yeah. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
Dave's gone in feet first as expected. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
In for a penny in for a pound, this. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
Here's some menus, guys. There we go. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
I think Debbie's taking it a bit more seriously. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
She seems very thoughtful a lot of the time | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
and I can tell that that concentration's probably because | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
of nerves but also because she wants to get it right. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
-Oh! It's not as easy as it looks, is it? -No. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
I think Dave just wants to have a laugh. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
I'm going to do new rules. When do I have a break? | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
So I can have a pint then. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:02 | |
It's just a night out playing pub. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
But the reality is this is going to be the world, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
this is going to be life. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
Right, I just noticed you carrying plates out | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
and what you're trying to do | 0:22:14 | 0:22:15 | |
is you're trying to sort of balance that plate | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
there on your arm and you're using your body to support it like this. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
-Belly. -Or your belly even. It's really straightforward. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
So give those plates to Dave, please. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
OK, can you put that first plate in your hand with, look, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
you've got three fingers there. Put it in your left hand. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
-You're right-handed, yeah? -Yeah. -Three fingers underneath. That's it. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
You're holding on to it with your thumb and your little finger, yeah? | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
Now place the second plate on that little platform there. There you go. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:44 | |
And then the third plate like that. Now you're a waiter. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
Shall I show you another trick? Balance that one on your head. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
Being a pub landlord involves managing a team of people | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
and showing both staff and customers that you're in charge. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
Evening, ladies. Would any of you like any drinks? | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
-Have you got a pen on you, mate? -Yeah. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
Dave is really enjoying himself and Debbie is really getting stuck in, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
but that's sort of the problem, they just look like members of staff. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
If I didn't know what was going on and I was to walk through | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
those doors now, I wouldn't know who was in charge. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
I would be hard placed to say, "That person is the manager," | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
and that's a problem. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:18 | |
I just think you need to be more proprietorial. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
I'm not going to tell you what to do. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
I'm not going to tell you how you should achieve that, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
but I think you should think about maybe taking a step back, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
maybe, you know, just broadening your shoulders a little bit | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
and looking at the whole room. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
Try to see this as publicans, as business owners. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
-So when they're washed, put them under the hot plate, yeah? -Yeah. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
I've just noticed Dave in the kitchen drying dishes. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
Just after I asked him to be more proprietorial | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
I find him in the kitchen being as low status as he possibly can. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
-Where do they go? Over there? -On the top over there. -OK. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
Yet again Dave's completely ignoring my advice. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
I think he wants to be seen to be helping the staff | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
and he wants to be seen to be their friend, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
but there are times when you've got to be a bit more than a friend | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
to the staff. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
I said, "What do I do with the tips? I've already had a fiver." | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
-It's up to you, you're the boss. You decide what you do. -I'll share. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
-You had a pint yet? -No. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
-I do believe... -I've had two pints all day. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
..you're not meant to drink behind the bar. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
How was that for you guys? | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
-I'm shattered in fairness. -No problem. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
-It was great. -No problem at all? -No, I don't think so. -Honestly, Dave? | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
-Initially... -The reason I ask you that is cos I'm tired. You must be. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
I get tired when I stop. If I'd kept going I'd have been all right. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
-Debbie? -I am tired. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:58 | |
I am ready for bed and I do have to get up tomorrow | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
and I do have to go back to work. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
I'm just curious to know, you know, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:04 | |
whether you think that this is going to be sustainable. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
We've got to do it initially to get things running. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
As time goes on we have to take time, the body will not do that. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
But I am used to working long hours anyhow. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
If this evening has shown them anything, I hope it's the fact that | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
dipping in when they get back from their day jobs is not an option. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
Running a pub is a profession, not a lifestyle. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
I think Debbie in particular has realised after tonight | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
that it's a very tiring profession being a publican. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
She's going to be holding down a full-time job, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
Dave's going to have his businesses, they've both got the farm | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
and then they're going to be working 16 hours a day running a pub. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
I think Dave was exhausted too, but was too proud to let on. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
It's no good, John, is it? What's the point in coming in for two hours? | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
Yeah, you should've had the day off. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
You can have more than that off now cos I'm not impressed about it. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
The relentless long days are getting to both Dave and Debbie. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
Moving along very rapidly, but I'm just finding it very hard. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
I've got to be here all the time now just to keep monitoring things | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
and keeping them wheels turning. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
And there's no respite when they get home at night. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
It's been a massive emotional rollercoaster, hasn't it, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
in fairness? And it really does put any relationship to its test. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
It truly does. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
I mean, it hasn't been easy because I've been working full-time, like, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
and you've been up the pub all the time. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
-Seven days now for the last... -God knows how many weeks. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
..eight weeks. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
And I'm not physically there to help him and that is a real frustration. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:50 | |
With their relationship under strain I need to remind them of | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
their original vision and why they got so excited about their dream. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:01 | |
To inspire them I'm bringing Dave and Debbie to one of the most | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
exciting food businesses I know. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
Dave's deer hunting. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:14 | |
He never lets go, does he? | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
The 2,000 acre Mhor Estate near Scotland's Loch Lomond | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
grows and produces a huge variety of food for its shops and restaurant. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:29 | |
There's a fish shop, there's a farm, there's a hotel, a motel, a pub. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:36 | |
It's a place that is confident and a place that is multi-textured. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:41 | |
Morning. How you doing? | 0:27:41 | 0:27:42 | |
The owner and champion of this field-to-plate ethos is Tom Lewis. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
Right, tonight... Venison and then obviously mushrooms, yeah. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:53 | |
Tom is clearly a massive presence here at Mhor | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
and what I really want Debbie to realise and understand | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
is that she needs to be a presence in a similar way at The Bell Inn. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:04 | |
Debbie, I'd like you to go round Tom's businesses, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
to the fishmonger, to the fish shop, to the bakery, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
and I want you to keep an eye out for things that you | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
think are important to the business or speak of it in some way. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
Things that are intrinsic or things that, you know, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
-that say something... -OK. -..about it. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
Wow. They're obviously getting something right here. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
I love the fact they've got their own branding. I like this. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:42 | |
It's very traditional. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
Cos I'm a nerd I just like to make a few notes | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
that I can take back with me. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
While Debbie investigates what's made the brand so successful, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
Dave is enjoying the Highland field-to-plate experience. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
-Mushrooms up on the left here. -So pick all these yellow ones? -Yeah. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
-Is that what you pick? -These'll be going on the menu this evening. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
Every single picture represents them which is brilliant. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
I think this would be good. I think a collage of Dave. That'd be scary. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
I wouldn't do that to our customers. I just wouldn't! | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
Tom's influence is everywhere in this business. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
Just kind of soften it ever so slightly. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
Now in with our chanterelles. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
You can't get any more in season than that. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
Birds, grouse, pigeons, beans, chanterelles. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
I mean, and they've literally come from 15 minutes of each other. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
Is that something that you're going to take inspiration from, Dave? | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
Yeah, beautiful. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:38 | |
So Tom, how many hours do you put in a week? | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
You kind of live and breathe it. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:42 | |
If you're not on site you're on the phone, | 0:29:42 | 0:29:44 | |
you're making sure everything's OK. "Everything OK?" Quick call. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
"Yeah, fine." You know? | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
It can be, you know, it's demanding | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
but at the end of the day at least you're not, you know, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
you're paying yourself you're not paying someone else. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
Yeah, that's a good point. | 0:29:57 | 0:29:58 | |
The management bit is part of actually doing it. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
In your business you can't justify just, | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
"Oh, I'm just going to come in. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:03 | |
"I'll be the manager and I'll tell the staff what to do." | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
You're actually going to have to be in and lead by example. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
-Yeah, I'm getting that from you, yeah. -Yeah, you know? | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
The biggest lesson I've learned today is that | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
if we want to be as successful as Mohr I think Dave and myself have | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
to sit back and make sure that we are representing our business 110%. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
I think I might be getting somewhere with Debbie. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
She and Dave really need to be the heart and soul of The Bell Inn, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
and that's a full-time commitment. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
Up until today we've had our minds set just to keep our jobs as | 0:30:35 | 0:30:41 | |
normal and ensure that The Bell is managed by a strong team behind us. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:48 | |
But I think after speaking to Tom, you know, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
that's just not the way that it works. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
You really need to be there 110% of the time. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
The Bell isn't a concept of a business, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
-it's actually becoming a reality. -It's real. | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
It's real and all the love and attention | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
that we've been spending on it, I'm getting more attached to it. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
And I think the time has come where I have to really consider | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
leaving my job and applying all my energies into this business. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
I think it's the right decision. I think it makes absolute sense. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
This is me on a building site in stilettos. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
With the pub due to open in a fortnight, | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
Debbie has just finished her last day's work at the call centre. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
-Done and dusted then? -Yeah. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
It's like a massive mixed bag of emotions today. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
Yeah, this is my new office. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
This is my new place of work as from...as from now. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
I need to get the windows painted cos it's dry. Tomorrow's raining. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
So we can't paint the windows tomorrow. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
Go on, get on with it. Quick as you can. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
Without Debbie's income the pressure is greater than ever | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
to open on time and get the money coming in. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
They've spent all their renovation budget | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
and are having to finish much of the work themselves. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
On nights like this when you've been up at goodness knows what time, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
it's nearly eight o'clock | 0:32:18 | 0:32:19 | |
and we've probably still got a few hours ahead of us yet. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
You're not downing tools yet | 0:32:22 | 0:32:23 | |
and this has been going on for quite a few days now. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
I do them tomorrow urgently, all right, mate? | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
I'm shattered. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
In three days The Bell Inn will open its doors to paying customers | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
for the very first time, and I've come back to check on progress. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:46 | |
At this stage I would expect to see all the furniture in, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
the painting and decorating done, the chef in place, menu tastings, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:55 | |
staff training, all the beer sorted, all the suppliers sorted. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
There's a lot to be done | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
and there's a lot that you need to get right before opening. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
-Hello! -Russell. -Dave and Debbie. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
-Welcome to The Bell. -How are things? | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
-How are you? -Hello, welcome back. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
I've been so excited to see this and we're finally here. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
-What do you think? -Can I have a quick look around? | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
-It's looking great. -Yeah. -Absolutely. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
Dave and Debbie have managed to get the build finished. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
£100,000 and a lot of hard graft have transformed a tired | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
country pub into a stylish light and modern space. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:36 | |
Oh, wow. Oh, that's amazing. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
-Good, isn't it? -There's so much light in this room, isn't there? | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
So the build's complete, | 0:33:44 | 0:33:45 | |
but at what cost to the rest of their preparation and planning? | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
One thing is definitely missing - I've yet to see an actual menu, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:54 | |
and that's a worry. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
-Tell me about the food. -On Saturday we will open in the afternoon. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
-We're just going to do a very minimal menu to start with. -Right. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
-A reduced menu on Saturday. -Yeah, a reduced menu and just go through. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
How reduced is reduced? What does a reduced menu mean? | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
-Probably four or five starters. -Right. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
-Three or four mains, probably, and three or four puddings. -Right. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
The thing that sort of strikes me is that all the way through this | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
project your ideas about your menu have been very strong. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:22 | |
You've been championing the venison | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
that you want to showcase in this place, | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
-and we've had lots of discussions, haven't we...? -Yeah, definitely. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
Really sort of in-depth detailed discussions about the menu. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
We've had our disagreements about the menu, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
but it's always been there at the centre of this project. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
-And now it's not. Now there's... -Venison's there. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
No, no, but venison is but the menu doesn't appear | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
to be a menu any more. It appears just to be, you know, a few dishes. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
We don't want to go and cripple ourselves from day one. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
We're going to be under enough pressure... | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
-But it was such a strong part... -Yeah, and it will be there. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
There will be a lot of game on there, there will be that on there, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
-but we're not going to kill ourselves on day one. -Yeah. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
A reduced menu on opening night can be a sign that panic has set in. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:04 | |
If they're going to impress their customers, | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
then the few dishes they've put on the menu had better be good. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
Right, so we're going to do our key products which | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
we want to be known for so our venison burger. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
We're doing our venison sausage and mash as well. Pie of the day. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
The pasta, we're going to do a pasta dish... | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
-You are? -..but Chef needs to decide what he wants to do, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
he's going to do one of his specialities. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
The venison steak as well and we are thinking of doing the gammon AND | 0:35:24 | 0:35:29 | |
the sirloin steak but just dropping the special for the time being. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
-It's quite heavy. -Yeah, it is quite heavy. -There's no vegetarian dish. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
-No. -No fish dish. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
My worry, Debbie, is that the customers are going to come in | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
-and see the menu and think, "Is that it?" -Mm-hm. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
I think Dave has been so engrossed and consumed by the build | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
and Debbie's been likewise. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
Somewhere in the middle is the menu | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
and it's been missed by both of them, I think. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
Opening a restaurant with a reduced menu is pretty much saying that we | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
haven't got it right and that we haven't really got our act together. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
It's such a shame. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:10 | |
They've had such a strong opinion | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
and passion about the food that they're going to be offering | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
and now we've got a sort of half-hearted excuse of a menu. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
COCK CROWS | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
Right, let's go, let's do it. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
Today, Dave and Debbie will realise a year-long dream | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
when they open their pub. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
Dave is up early to pick the veg for tonight's menu. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
Savoy cabbage with rain on it, picked, on the plate tonight | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
and that's what we're all about, really, from the farm to the plate. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
Chef's going to be really pleased with these. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
I am excited about tonight but also I'm a bit worried. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
We've got to explain because it's only a sample of what we're doing. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
We're not...scared, we're confident, | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
but also a bit anxious as well at the end of the day. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
An exhausted Debbie is making some final changes to their reduced menu. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:10 | |
I'm trying, trying my best to learn from the maestro | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
and put some of his ideas into practice. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:19 | |
Our food is really important to us, we want to get it right. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
There's a lot of pressure on Georgel at the moment, a lot of pressure. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:28 | |
They've hired Romanian chef Georgel. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
It's his job to bring Dave and Debbie's menu to life. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:36 | |
We need just a bit more time, that's all. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
It's a bit of running behind schedule but we'll do it. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:45 | |
We have to. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
-How are you? -Really well, thank you. How are you? | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
-I'm very well, I've just arrived. -Yes. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
-I've just been looking round, it looks great. -Do you like it? -Yeah. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
-It's fabulous. -When does the menu start? -7:00 this evening. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
-And this is it? -This is it. -Can I have a look? -Yeah. -Oh, wow. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
It looks like a proper menu, doesn't it? | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
It does, it's all real now. This is it. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
It's good to see that Debbie's listened to me | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
and added a fish and vegetarian option. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
And finally, it seems I've managed to convince Dave | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
when it comes to pricing. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
These prices here are a lot more reasonable than the prices | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
that you were originally talking about. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:22 | |
The venison steak, for example, I mean that's significantly | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
lower than the steak you thought you were going to have to sell. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
Yeah, well, we talked about it and we talked to Georgel about it | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
and he reckons he can give us our margins on these prices. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
It's a lot more pub-friendly. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:36 | |
And it's the sort of price range, I think, that will | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
-not discourage people. -No. -We've talked about this in the past. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
Having a menu that | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
when it sits outside in your menu box doesn't say to people, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
"We are fancy pants, we're too expensive, shop elsewhere." | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
This is a menu that says, "We're very reasonable, | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
"we're probably more reasonable than you would expect in a pub | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
"that looks like this from the outside in this part of | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
-"the world," so I think it's the sort of menu that will draw people in. -Good. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
I'm delighted the prices are now right but I want to check | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
that chef Georgel is confident about the dishes he's preparing. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:11 | |
-Have you seen it? -The menu? -Here it is. -This is my first time I see it. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
This is the first time you've seen it? OK. Happy with those starters? | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
-Yeah. -Have you made them before? -Yeah, yeah. -Where did you make them? | 0:39:18 | 0:39:22 | |
-At the farm? -No, no, before, where I used to work. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
-Where you used to work? -Yeah. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:26 | |
So, you haven't made these dishes for Debbie and Dave yet? | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
I've made the pepper soup and some pigeon breast but different. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:35 | |
But different? | 0:39:35 | 0:39:36 | |
So, this, today, will be | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
the first time you've made some of these dishes for Dave and Debbie. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
Yeah, yeah, for Dave and Debbie, it will be the first time. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
It's Dave and Debbie's restaurant, I would have thought | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
they'd like to try the dishes before they go out to customers. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
But they're just putting their trust in you, are they? | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
Yeah, at the moment, yeah, you're right. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
This is an unusual approach. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
At my restaurants, I do at least four formal tastings of any | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
new dishes with the whole restaurant team before they go on the menu. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:09 | |
They're really kind of behind of this business with | 0:40:09 | 0:40:14 | |
the opening ideas. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
When you say behind, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
do you mean that they're sort of catching up all the time? | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
Yeah, yeah, because, to be honest, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
I need at least two days to prep, it's not just 12 or 14 hours. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:29 | |
Yeah. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
I really feel for Georgel, he's only just got the menu. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
I could see it as he held it in his hands, | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
he was looking through it half with terror at what he might find | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
but it's really unusual that this menu, which is such an important | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
part of their business, hasn't been tried or tested by Dave and Debbie. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
To add to this pressure, | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
Georgel only has two complete kitchen novices to support him. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
It's a new experience for me. I'm not used to a kitchen. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:11 | |
Hopefully, everything will be all good for launch. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
In a 72-cover restaurant, I'd expect to see a team of five - | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
two senior chefs, a chef de partie, a commis chef | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
and a dishwasher, all with tried-and-tested kitchen experience. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
This doesn't feel like a professional set-up. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
-DEBBIE: -Is everybody OK? | 0:41:30 | 0:41:31 | |
Are we all happy? Are we ready to welcome our beautiful customers? | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
Yes? Yes, we are. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
-We'll be gone a good hour. -Yeah. -All right? | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
Just run it how you would run it. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:48 | |
You know what I'm expecting. All right? Crack the whip. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
Unbelievably, with only an hour and a half till opening, | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
Dave and Debbie head off to tend their farm animals... | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
Good luck. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:00 | |
We've got Paul to do tomorrow's start so we're all right. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
..leaving restaurant manager Donna in charge. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
-You're serving food from 7:00, aren't you? -Yeah. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
-You think you'll be back for then? -We'll definitely be back for then. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
-Oh, absolutely, yes. -I'll get to it with Donna then. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
Thank you very much, Russell, we won't be long. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
This is going to be an interesting night. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
So, open in an hour and a half and they've just left. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
They've got a farm, they've got to get the animals away before it | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
gets dark but at the same time, do they both need to go? | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
I wouldn't leave my ship rudderless | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
and captainless on its opening night. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
Em, Donna's in charge | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
but I'm pretty sure she's not up to speed on what needs to be done. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:45 | |
I think we're in a situation where nobody here is up to | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
speed on what needs to be done. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:49 | |
As well as a kitchen in disarray, | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
other vital preparation simply hasn't happened. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
In the rush to open, no-one's briefed the serving staff. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:59 | |
Has anyone had a chance to see the food yet? | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
No, but I will give you all menus | 0:43:03 | 0:43:04 | |
and I'll run through what the extra bits are on it. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
And also, I've written down the plan of the pub | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
-so you'll know which table is which. -Can I make a suggestion? -Yeah. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:15 | |
In addition to putting the table plan up in the kitchen | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
and the bar, draw the table plan on the back of your pads as well. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
Yeah, for us two, it's fine but... | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
Exactly so you can turn over and see where the tables are. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
-Do you know what time food's being served from? -Apparently 7:00. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
Is it 7:00? Is that what everyone thinks? | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
I've got no idea, I only found out that I'm working half an hour ago. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:35 | |
OK. 7:00, OK. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 | |
It's very late in the day to be training staff, | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
going through the sequence of service, going through what's | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
expected, I mean these guys haven't even seen the dishes. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:47 | |
One of them didn't know she was working until half an hour ago. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
The menus have got no descriptions of what the food actually | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
comes with. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:54 | |
I'd hoped that it would have had a description on it. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
There's no clear order of service, they're unsure of their dishes | 0:43:57 | 0:44:01 | |
and they don't even know the table layout for the restaurant. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
This is a recipe for chaos. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:07 | |
If tonight is a success, | 0:44:07 | 0:44:08 | |
it's going to be a success despite of preparation not because of it. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:12 | |
There really hasn't been enough. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
Right, OK. Going to the kitchen, check them out. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
Where do the tea towels go? How have you been doing this? | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
-It's 7:00pm and Dave and Debbie are back on site. -Hey, darling. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:28 | |
Just in time for their first evening service. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
All right, how's everything going? All right? | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
But with a reduced menu, food that hasn't been tested | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
and untrained staff, this restaurant doesn't feel ready for customers. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:41 | |
-Could I have the roasted salmon, please? -Yeah, of course. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
I need one chicken pate and a pigeon. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
The first food orders hit the kitchen. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:54 | |
Yeah, this is table 12. | 0:44:56 | 0:44:57 | |
-Chef, are you OK? -Yeah. -Are you sure? | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
-But as more customers flow in... -We've asked for a large portion. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:12 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:45:12 | 0:45:14 | |
Dessert, chef. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:16 | |
..there's a danger of them going hungry. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
Where's the dessert, chef, for table 5? | 0:45:19 | 0:45:21 | |
Yeah, ask the pastry chef. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
-Ask him. -Where are those desserts? I need those desserts. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:26 | |
Yeah, there's one there. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:28 | |
Yeah, there should be another four to go with it as well. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
If they don't know how to do it... | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
Without the trained staff he needs, | 0:45:35 | 0:45:37 | |
Georgel is struggling to get dishes out on time. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:41 | |
Look at them, they're not keeping everything clean. They don't realise. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:46 | |
They've never worked in a kitchen, that's what I'm trying to say. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:48 | |
You don't need to shout, Georgel. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
I've left you for five minutes, what's going on? | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
If he started to talk, maybe we might get out some food tonight, OK? | 0:45:53 | 0:45:57 | |
-Maybe something a bit decent, as well. -Yeah, yeah, sure. | 0:45:57 | 0:46:01 | |
-Are you OK? -Yeah. -Do you need me? -No. -Good. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:05 | |
Deal with it, sort it out, guys, we're a team, yeah? | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
OK, Donna? Are you sorted? You being a drama queen? | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
Dave doesn't seem to appreciate how much the kitchen is struggling. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:17 | |
I need to get to the bottom of all this tension. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
-What happened? -Look at me. -I can see. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
I'm doing desserts, starters and main courses alone for 40 to | 0:46:23 | 0:46:25 | |
50 people and she expects me to have a really smooth service. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:29 | |
That's not possible. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:30 | |
This guy, it's his first day here, I don't have anything against him | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
-or against her, they're brilliant, they help me. -Yeah. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
But they're not chefs. They can't even clean, look at that. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
They can't even realise they need... | 0:46:39 | 0:46:41 | |
-Georgel? -..a clean table, a clean surface to work. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:44 | |
-Georgel, I'm very happy to help out, if you need some extra hands. -No. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:49 | |
There is only one thing that can save this evening from being | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
a total disaster and that's the quality of the food. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:05 | |
Opening a restaurant without trying the dishes first is a huge risk. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:09 | |
It's like buying a house on the basis of a photograph, | 0:47:09 | 0:47:14 | |
it's just too risky, you do not do it. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:16 | |
Fishcakes, thank you very much. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
I really need to taste some of the dishes. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
So, this is the smoked haddock fishcake. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:25 | |
It's very potato-y. It's quite dry. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:34 | |
I didn't find it very appetising at all, it would be very | 0:47:34 | 0:47:38 | |
difficult to eat both of them. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:40 | |
This is the beef and ale pie. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
Very tasty. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
Pastry's a little tough. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:53 | |
And now for Dave's signature dish - the venison. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:58 | |
The steak is very dry. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:02 | |
I'm going to have to show it to him, it's almost inedible. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:06 | |
-How was this then? Any good? -Have a go and see what you think. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:10 | |
The steak should come with a sauce and I did ask him, he did make one. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
Yeah. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
You would be horrified if people had venison haunch | 0:48:15 | 0:48:19 | |
like this every time they came to The Bell Inn, wouldn't you? | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
-If this was served to me, I'd send it back. -You would. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:25 | |
I would because it's too dry. Now, we haven't had a chance to try it... | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
-OK, say that again. -We haven't had a chance to try this food. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:32 | |
This is exactly my point. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
There's a lot that's been going out tonight and there's a lot that's | 0:48:34 | 0:48:38 | |
on the menu that you haven't had an opportunity to try yourselves. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:41 | |
No, we haven't. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:43 | |
That's been my fault. We've been focused to get the build done. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:47 | |
We'll always admit if we're in the wrong | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
and perhaps we should have sat back a bit more and tried a bit more. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:54 | |
-You've always known what is good food and what isn't, haven't you? -Oh, yeah, definitely. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:58 | |
So, in that sense, you have a very valid and a very strong opinion... | 0:48:58 | 0:49:03 | |
-No, thank you. -..and that opinion is what should be driving this business | 0:49:03 | 0:49:06 | |
and you can only have an opinion about your business | 0:49:06 | 0:49:09 | |
if you're trying the food. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:11 | |
-You mustn't forget where this all started. -No. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
This started here as a passion and a desire to open something really | 0:49:14 | 0:49:19 | |
special and what I don't want you to do is to lose sight of that passion. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:23 | |
Dave and Debbie, for the first time, listened to me. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:31 | |
We had an honest conversation about the menu, they admitted that there | 0:49:31 | 0:49:35 | |
were shortcomings and that they had taken their eye off the ball. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
They hadn't tasted any of the dishes so no wonder there were some duds. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:42 | |
What I really need them | 0:49:42 | 0:49:43 | |
to do before my next visit is go back to the menu, go back to | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
Georgel, look at the dishes that are duds, taste everything | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
and make sure they get the menu right this time and not just | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
hope that it's right by not tasting it and leaving it to chance. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
-That's good. -Sirloin, roast pork, Yorkies and roasties. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:07 | |
-Yeah. And if people want extra veg we can give them it in a bowl yes? -Yeah. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:11 | |
The very next day Dave and Debbie follow my advice | 0:50:11 | 0:50:15 | |
and start tasting the food on their menu. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
Perfect. That's what we want. Good, wholesome, fresh, but nice. And value for money. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:25 | |
-That's a nice plateful of food. -I'm over the moon with this. -Thank you. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
Good. Get back in the kitchen, get on it, yeah? | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
That's a positive step, but just a week after opening Dave | 0:50:32 | 0:50:36 | |
and Debbie get knocked back again. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:38 | |
Chef Georgel leaves The Bell. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:40 | |
He decided it wasn't for him. We tried. He tried. He was very good. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:46 | |
It was a bit of a disappointment and a bit of a shock. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:49 | |
He just didn't have what we wanted. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:52 | |
It was, even from our first opening night, | 0:50:52 | 0:50:55 | |
and the point that Russell made, it wasn't what we were about, | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
it was what he wanted, and he wouldn't listen to us. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:00 | |
So, he was a very good chef and we wish him all the best, | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
but it wasn't what we wanted to produce. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
Dave has always known what a good plate of food tastes like | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
and I liked his cooking so it makes sense to see him | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
taking charge of the kitchen. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:13 | |
These pheasants I skinned off earlier today. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:16 | |
They have come locally. I'm just doing a pheasant, cream, white wine and apricot sauce. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:22 | |
It sounds delicious, | 0:51:22 | 0:51:24 | |
but can Dave really know what a professional kitchen needs? | 0:51:24 | 0:51:28 | |
I want to find out how things are running when I'm not there. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:32 | |
To get an objective view of how The Bell is operating I've taken | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
the unusual step of asking restaurant reviewer | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
and writer Tom Harrow to go undercover for lunch. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
-Are you still serving lunch? -Yes. Do you want to have a look at...? | 0:51:44 | 0:51:48 | |
I'd love to. Great. Thanks. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:50 | |
He's used to reviewing restaurants anonymously. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:53 | |
-Great. Thank you. -Here's the sausages. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:56 | |
The food was disastrous on opening night. Please tell me it's improved. | 0:51:56 | 0:52:01 | |
-Russell, hi, it's Tom. -Hi, Tom. Tell me, how was it? | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
I ordered the venison sausages. And they were good. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:11 | |
Good gamey texture and nicely spiced as well. Nicely seasoned. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:16 | |
Good herbs. The mash was good. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
-It was the right side of creamy without being creamed. It's classic pub grub. -Mm hm. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:23 | |
And if I lived locally I'd be very happy to come back. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:29 | |
Five weeks after their very disappointing opening | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
I'm back to find out if this business has a future. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:38 | |
Have Dave and Debbie managed to maintain the high | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
standards of service and food? | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
Are they there leading from the front? | 0:52:43 | 0:52:47 | |
-Dave. -Tom. -How are you? -All right, mate. -Look at this. This is... | 0:52:47 | 0:52:52 | |
-This is a turn up. -The way forward. -Absolutely. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:54 | |
-And here's the rest of the team. -Hello. -Hello. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:57 | |
Dave, I've got a confession to make. I sent a spy to come in and dine. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:02 | |
-I sent a mystery diner. -Right. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
So this is someone you won't have known about who came in | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
-and had some lunch and reported back to me. -Right. Good. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:11 | |
He told me that you were in the kitchen and that Georgel wasn't around. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
Right. And good feedback? | 0:53:14 | 0:53:16 | |
-What do you think? -I would hope so. It was very good? | 0:53:17 | 0:53:21 | |
-It was very good. -Thank you. -It was very good indeed actually. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
-Perfect pub food. -Brilliant. That's really good. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
It looks like Dave and Debbie might have actually pulled it off. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:36 | |
Despite the rocky road, business is picking up and their dream | 0:53:36 | 0:53:41 | |
of a successful field-to-plate restaurant is becoming a reality. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:45 | |
I'm looking at the menu now where one course is 12 | 0:53:50 | 0:53:52 | |
and two courses are 16. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:54 | |
It has been a very long and very frustrating journey, | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
but I really feel now finally they have listened to me. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:01 | |
Crucial to success, | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
the locals are happy. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:05 | |
I'm seeing four completely empty plates. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
-You've obviously enjoyed your lunch today. -Very good indeed. -Yes. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:13 | |
-Excellent. -It is very tasty and very good. It is good value for money. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
Locally sourced. We know where it's come from. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:19 | |
-Can you taste the difference? -Oh yes. -Yes. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
You go into a lot of pubs and it just tastes the same. This, you've definitely got the flavours. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:26 | |
We've really enjoyed it. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:28 | |
Save some room for pudding. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
Do you want any ice or anything? No, just as it comes. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
Dave and Debbie have come such a long way. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:38 | |
There is no question at all standing in this pub that Dave is | 0:54:38 | 0:54:41 | |
the landlord and Debbie is the landlady. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
And that's such an essential part of running a successful pub. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
But at its heart this is a business. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:52 | |
Since opening I've yet to hear from Dave and Debbie | 0:54:52 | 0:54:55 | |
whether they are actually turning a profit. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
What have been the tough financial realities that you have | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
discovered in opening a business? | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
We overspent on the build which was going to be inevitable. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:06 | |
-When you say you overspent - by a large margin? -30 to 40,000. -Wow. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:12 | |
We were met with extras on electrics, extras on plumbing, but... | 0:55:12 | 0:55:17 | |
-As a percentage of the total build, that's huge. -It is, yes. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
So, Dave, if for example you didn't have your other | 0:55:20 | 0:55:24 | |
-business interests, if this were it...? -We would be... | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
-I think we would be shut. -You would, wouldn't you? -It would be that close. -We would be. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
The single biggest reason that restaurant businesses fail is | 0:55:30 | 0:55:35 | |
because people run out of money before they get to opening day. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
-Absolutely. -Today it's been packed to the rafters. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
You'll probably take something like 1,500 to 2,000 today, | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
-something like that? -Yes. -Yes. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
When we started off we estimated we would hopefully like to turn | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
-over £3,500 per week. -Right. -We've exceeded that. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
I was going to say you must be doing more than that. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:54 | |
Yes, we've exceeded that. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:55 | |
But it's come back to the fact as well, that we both need to be here. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
We have noticed over the last four weeks the takings are up when we are always here. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:03 | |
Right. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:04 | |
Again, being naive, when the build was done and we opened the doors... | 0:56:04 | 0:56:07 | |
-You thought that was it. -I thought, "We can relax." | 0:56:07 | 0:56:09 | |
-You thought that was the end of the journey? -That's only when it starts. -It's the beginning. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:13 | |
-The build was easy. -Yes, in hindsight. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:15 | |
12 weeks to build the pub was absolutely a doddle. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
But now it becomes a business not just a building project. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
Yes, it does. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:22 | |
When Dave and Debbie first started this project they'd only been | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
together a year. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:29 | |
The final thing I want to find out is how the pressure has | 0:56:29 | 0:56:32 | |
affected their relationship. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:34 | |
What would you say to other couples that were thinking about opening a | 0:56:34 | 0:56:37 | |
-pub together? -Do something else. -Really? | 0:56:37 | 0:56:40 | |
It's always a dream of everybody to say, "I've got my own pub, my own restaurant." | 0:56:40 | 0:56:43 | |
The romanticism of having a local village pub | 0:56:43 | 0:56:46 | |
isn't as romantic as you probably think it's going to be. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:50 | |
You're sitting here now in your own pub and you've got | 0:56:50 | 0:56:53 | |
people in those dining rooms and in those bars down here | 0:56:53 | 0:56:57 | |
who are all enjoying the pub that you have created. | 0:56:57 | 0:56:59 | |
So be proud and take the credit that you deserve for creating this | 0:56:59 | 0:57:03 | |
because it is a big achievement. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:05 | |
And don't forget that original passion | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
because that's what started the whole process, | 0:57:07 | 0:57:09 | |
that's what's got you to this point, | 0:57:09 | 0:57:12 | |
and that's what will continue to carry you forward into the future. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:15 | |
-We couldn't have done it without you. -Well done, you two. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:17 | |
-Thank you for your support. We really do appreciate it. -Not at all. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:21 | |
It's been a long and frustrating journey, but finally | 0:57:22 | 0:57:26 | |
The Bell Inn is where it should have been five weeks ago on opening day. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:29 | |
Dave and Debbie have rediscovered their passion for food | 0:57:29 | 0:57:32 | |
and they now have a pub that is friendly and welcoming. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:35 | |
And they are concentrating on value rather than fine dining | 0:57:35 | 0:57:38 | |
and it's inspiring the locals and getting bums on seats. | 0:57:38 | 0:57:41 | |
If they carry on like this there is no reason at all that | 0:57:41 | 0:57:44 | |
it can't be as busy as it is today every day. | 0:57:44 | 0:57:47 | |
As time went by I actually realised that Russell does know what | 0:57:47 | 0:57:52 | |
he's on about. Sometimes you think, "I don't want to be told this. | 0:57:52 | 0:57:56 | |
"Let's do it our way." | 0:57:56 | 0:57:58 | |
But as time went on we realised that, fair play to Russell, he does | 0:57:58 | 0:58:01 | |
know what he's on about. Much as I hate to say it, fair play, Russell. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:05 | |
Take my hat off to you, you know. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:08 | |
Next time Scandinavian food comes to Macclesfield. | 0:58:11 | 0:58:15 | |
One meatballs, one poached... | 0:58:15 | 0:58:17 | |
But with no eye for detail... | 0:58:17 | 0:58:19 | |
I've got no food and I'm opening in less than 48 hours. | 0:58:19 | 0:58:23 | |
..and a fear of doing the figures... | 0:58:23 | 0:58:26 | |
Yes, that scares me. | 0:58:26 | 0:58:28 | |
..will it all prove too much for this wannabe restaurateur? | 0:58:28 | 0:58:32 | |
-It will be all right. -I'm so scared. I really am. | 0:58:32 | 0:58:36 | |
# Sometimes you want to go where everybody knows your name | 0:58:39 | 0:58:43 | |
# And they're always glad you came | 0:58:45 | 0:58:48 | |
# You want to be where you can see | 0:58:50 | 0:58:52 | |
# Our troubles are all the same | 0:58:52 | 0:58:55 | |
# You want to be where everybody knows your name. # | 0:58:55 | 0:58:59 |