Episode 3 Battling with Benefits


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That's all we have at the moment.

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Life on benefits can be tough.

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The government in Westminster is undertaking a shake-up

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of the welfare system.

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The aim is to focus payments on those in greatest need

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and help claimants into work.

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They are also aiming to cut £12 billion from the spend on benefits.

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Do you think you could do this yourself?

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Tighter rules have been introduced...

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Filling those forms is an absolute nightmare.

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..new systems...

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It can drive you mental.

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..and stiffer penalties.

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It's not right, them just cutting our money like that.

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Vulnerable and disabled people,

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even those who are ill, say they are being pushed to the limit.

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I don't see why we should be punished for having a spare bedroom, anyway.

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If it's just me that's not getting the help, who else is suffering in this world?

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In the Bridgend area, we followed people for ten months, to see

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the impact on some of those who are experiencing the changes and

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how challenging benefits decisions can be complicated and stressful.

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Why should I have to fight against it?

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But that's what it takes. And a lot of people would have given up.

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A lot of people would have given up.

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This is the reality for those who are battling with benefits.

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Over the last four years, the benefits system has been transformed.

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And those on disability benefits are seeing big changes being phased in.

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Disability Living Allowance is being replaced by a new benefit,

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Personal Independence Payments.

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And 1.75 million people across the UK are having their disability needs reassessed.

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The government says this will mean only those who really need the benefit will get it.

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In Bridgend, 17-year-old Tiffany Davies is trying to call

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her doctor's, because she's twisted her ankle.

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Tiffany was born with a serious level of sensorineural hearing loss,

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which also affects her speech.

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Sometimes, she has to rely on lip-reading

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and most everyday communication is a challenge for her.

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-'Good afternoon.'

-Hello...

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INDISTINCT

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Your name. >

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-'Hello.'

-Hiya, my name's Tiffany.

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Can I make appointment please?

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'You need a what, sorry, love?

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The receptionist struggles to understand Tiffany.

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-'Hello.'

-Hello.

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And Tiffany can't make out what she is staying.

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Hello.

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LINE GOES DEAD

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It's frustrating for her.

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When Tiffany's hearing and speech difficulties were

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diagnosed as a child, she qualified for Disability Living Allowance,

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but when she turned 16, her £76 per week DLA benefit ended.

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Tiffany had to reapply for the new Personal Independence Payments,

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but she was turned down.

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She lives at home with her mum Marie, a lone parent

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who has no financial support coming in, other than benefits.

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Tiffany is the eldest of four siblings.

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Chloe, Josh, Ryan and Cam.

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Marie also has a speech impairment and a club foot

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and her Disability Living Allowance is also being reassessed.

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With Tiffany's DLA ending and other benefit cuts,

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the family are living on almost £300 per month less than a year ago.

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I've still got my DLA at the moment.

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That's the only thing that keeps me going

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every month when I get it, just to help, sort of,

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for the kids' clothing and school stuff.

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That's why, every time she's asked me for money, I feel bad.

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I say, "Look, Tiff, I haven't got any money."

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-INTERVIEWER:

-She's got some worries about money, hasn't she?

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Tiffany is in her final year at college, on a catering course.

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In term time, she gets a means-tested £30 per week allowance,

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which goes towards her college expenses.

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For two years, Natalie Ryan's been unemployed

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and claims Jobseeker's Allowance.

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She fills some of her time volunteering

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at this cat rescue centre, just outside Bridgend.

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It means the world to me, volunteering.

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It gives you a routine.

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You have to set your alarm,

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you have to get up, you have to have breakfast,

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you have to leave the house.

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And I love cats.

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SHE LAUGHS

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Natalie hopes this experience will help get her back into work.

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If I did have a job interview,

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whereby I did get a job,

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I'd feel very proud to say this is what I do in my spare time

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and it shows future employers

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that you've got a good work ethic, as well.

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She's got qualifications

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and she's doing everything the government

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expects of her to find work,

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but she's not finding it easy.

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I've been unemployed for two years.

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The last job I had was a zero-hours contract.

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I was there for ten months...

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..and they decided not to give me a permanent contract.

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And they let me go.

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And I've just been sending CVs off on a regular basis.

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Despite all the setbacks, Natalie's more determined than ever

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to get back into paid work.

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There are 122,000 people in Wales on Jobseeker's Allowance.

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Each claimant has a Job Centre work coach,

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who supports them getting back to work.

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The majority, though, of those claiming benefits

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do so because poor health or injuries prevent them from working

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or they have disabilities for which they need care and support.

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I have to have someone with me, don't I?

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I'm not really allowed on my own, so I have to go out with somebody,

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otherwise I'll forget where I'm going or stuff like that.

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-Car, road.

-Yeah. I don't look both ways in the car.

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My concentration's really bad.

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18-year-old Jade Owen, Tiffany's best friend,

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has cerebral palsy.

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She's got complex needs,

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and relies on all kinds of support.

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Come on, princess!

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At home, her dad David is a full-time carer,

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both to her and her mum Jane.

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She also has a debilitating illness, Meniere's disease,

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and there are some days when she's completely out for the count.

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David's on call 24/7, so can't take a paid job.

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It's a responsible job, really.

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Washing, ironing.

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Mum does the ironing but I hang the clothes,

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take them out, anything... Heavy lifting, gardening,

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taking Jade back and forth to the toilet.

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The family of five rely on benefits.

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Jade's level of disability means she was awarded

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Personal Independence Payments,

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but it's not always been easy getting support.

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We've heard that we could have had help, but we never did.

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We never heard about all these different kind of charities

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and stuff until I got a bit older,

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and I think it was wrong how nobody told us all that sort of stuff.

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HE WHISTLES

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The family have been at loggerheads on many occasions

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with the local authority,

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trying to get the house adapted for Jade's needs.

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We've applied for grants, we've applied for bath hoists,

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lifts, stair-lifts, but we never get anything,

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and we've been trying for the last 16 years.

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They did get help with substantial adaptations for the house,

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but now, because Jade wants to be more independent,

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the support she needs is changing.

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A week ago, she started a college course

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and because she's a wheelchair user,

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she qualifies for a council-funded taxi to pick her up.

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But for the last four days,

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the taxi hasn't turned up.

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Jade tried to find out why.

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I went to college and sorted it out in student services,

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and they said Bridgend Borough Council didn't authorise it

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so it was basically back and forth, back and forth,

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so they tried sorting it all out all day, the day before yesterday,

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on Tuesday, and they said, hopefully, there should be

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a taxi today or next week.

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Come on, love.

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Good turn!

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They'd requested a taxi that Jade could access in her wheelchair.

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Right, another day in college!

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Education, here we come!

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Despite Jade's efforts,

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again, the taxi hasn't turned up.

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-No, it's 25 minutes past.

-Late again.

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20 past. It should have been here at ten past, five past.

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Yep.

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It's scandalous.

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-I love you.

-Love you, too.

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-See you later.

-Ta-ra, sweetheart.

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With no taxi, Mum has to escort Jade to the college.

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Whilst today, the weather is fine, in the cold and wet,

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Jade's health could be seriously affected.

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That's what it is, really, it's about Jade being safe

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and about Jade being in college on time.

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David calls the council, to find out why the taxi didn't turn up.

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Hi, good morning.

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I'm phoning on behalf of my daughter,

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Jade Elizabeth Owen.

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No taxi has turned up again,

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so that's the last four days,

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and we're wondering whether you could look into the incident

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for us, please.

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That's right.

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That's what I'm saying.

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It still hasn't appeared.

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Can I just say, though...

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Can I just say, they've had nearly 12 weeks to sort this out.

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The council are in the process of reorganisation

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and they're also experiencing a short-term staffing problem.

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Apparently, the delay was partly due to the wrong dates being given

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by the college for when the taxi was needed.

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You know, I'm trying to be civil and polite,

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but when it comes to my daughter's health,

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which is life-threatening if she gets wet,

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believe it or not,

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that something needs to be done urgently.

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It's so frustrating and all parents in our position,

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I bet they feel exactly the same way.

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11 months ago,

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Tiffany Davis lost the benefit she'd had since she was a toddler.

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Her Disability Living Allowances ended when she turned 16,

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so then she applied for the new Personal Independence Payments.

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As part of the application process,

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Tiffany had to go to an assessment,

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where she was questioned about her disabilities

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by a health professional. She went with her mum.

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Did you find it difficult?

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I tried telling the woman.

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I said, "Look, she's going to look at me at all times,

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"every question you're going to ask, anyway, so..."

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But she was like, "Oh, sorry, you'll have to stay out of it.

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"You can stay in the room, but you've got to stay out of it."

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Tiffany was turned down.

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They feel they didn't have a chance to properly explain her problems,

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which may have been the reason she didn't get the benefit.

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Because Jade has such a high level of disability,

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when she turned 16, she got her PIP.

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Jade wants Tiffany to meet a group she's part of,

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who she thinks could help.

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-Hello!

-ALL:

-Hi, Jade.

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Good to see you again.

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Simon Green set up the Bridgend Coalition of Disable People

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as a support group for people with disabilities.

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Everyone here relies on benefits.

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You don't get Disability Living Allowance

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or PIP, Personal Independence...

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As far as I'm concerned, having a hearing impairment

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and speech issues,

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you probably wouldn't get the higher rate

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but you should certainly, I reckon, get the lower rate,

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cos it is affecting you living your everyday living.

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Cos very often, people have been turned down for PIP

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and, when they've appealed, they've ended up getting it,

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when it's gone to appeal or a tribunal,

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so it's always worth appealing.

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I know it's stressful,

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but never just give up.

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I'll try that, yeah. I want to give it a go.

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I think there are plenty of people out there

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who are entitled to PIP and other benefits,

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but are not getting it,

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because they haven't got the wherewithal,

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they haven't got the ability

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or they don't want to get stressed

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or they're too afraid to go to a tribunal.

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They're too afraid to appeal

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or they don't have the support

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or they think, "Oh, I've been turned down once,

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"I'll never get it."

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Tiffany has more confidence now

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and has decided to try

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and apply again for Personal Independence Payments.

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Because she struggled the first time,

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she's decided to get help from Bridgend's Citizens Advice,

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who are also helping her mum with her benefits problems.

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Tiffany only scored two points the last time.

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She needs to score a minimum of eight,

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so it's a long shot, making another application.

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There you go. Would you like to come in and take a seat?

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Bonnie Dolan is the adviser on Tiffany's case.

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When you had a look through this form, what did you think?

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Did you think you could do this yourself?

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No? OK.

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Tiffany is one of over 10,000 people across Wales who got help

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from Citizens Advice with their PIP applications last year.

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-So, hearing loss in both ears?

-Yes.

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It's asking whether you use an aid or appliance.

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-So this could be hearing aids. So you use two?

-Yes.

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For the majority of the time, do you always wear them both?

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-Yes.

-So, if you're in college, you have to wear them both?

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-All the time.

-All the time.

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So, I wear two hearing aids and I wear these all the time.

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Sometimes, I can't really communicate to people.

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-Does that happen a lot? People have to repeat themselves?

-Sometimes.

-OK.

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With professional help, the form is completed in an hour.

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So, that's everything for today with this PIP form.

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And I'm going to send it off today. OK?

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-Thank you very much.

-Bye.

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For the next step in the process,

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she'll be called by the Department of Work and Pensions,

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for a face-to-face assessment.

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Are you feeling confident?

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About 50-50, OK.

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50, yeah.

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Natalie Ryan has been looking for paid work for two years.

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In the meantime, she's volunteering in a cat refuge.

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In 2012, she left her job in London and moved with her husband Michael

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to Wales, in search of a better quality of life.

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We don't live in main Bridgend, we live in Nantymoel,

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which is a beautiful little village.

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Very quiet, beautiful scenery. It's just lovely.

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The reasons why we left London.

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Michael has local family connections in Nantymoel,

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which is the main reason they relocated here.

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He'd had to stop working as a cabinetmaker

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because of an injury and now he's looking for a career change.

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They are both on Jobseeker's Allowance

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and have to use the government's online system, Universal Jobmatch.

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Through this, jobseekers have access

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to thousands of vacancies across the UK.

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So, there's a job now. You can apply for this one.

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You hit "apply".

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Sometimes, it takes you straight to the recruiter's website.

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But this is the government's website, which my CV is already on.

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You just click there for your CV and type in a covering letter.

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Then, once you've done that, you just submit.

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Michael IS doing what's expected of him.

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He's filled in hundreds of applications.

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But he's losing faith in the system.

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I've been told that you can check your government gateway's website,

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to see if employers have contacted you.

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I've never had an employer contact me via this website.

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-In the four years I've been doing it. Never.

-No, me, neither.

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The couple have to use the site,

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otherwise they would lose their benefits.

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The online system also sends them notifications of job vacancies.

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Although they don't always seem to match their experience.

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Even if you're just an ordinary sane person, like I was,

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it can drive you mental.

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I get e-mails for, um...

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er...

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..convey...conveyancing?

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What does that mean, what is that?

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Warehouse operative?

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My CV is animal care, cleaning and catering.

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How is conveyancing, apart from the fact it begins with C,

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how does that...? So it's...it's really back to front.

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Back in Bridgend, it's another day with no taxi for Jade.

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No taxi again. It's now 8.50. Where are you, anyway?

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Jade's waiting again for the taxi to take her to college.

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"You're gonna be late."

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It's been a problem since term started just over a week ago.

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-The taxi didn't come until 9.15.

-Yeah.

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They've asked the council to find

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a suitable taxi for Jade's wheelchair,

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with a female driver or escort.

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I have been on the phone to them

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and they said they'll try to rectify the problem.

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There shouldn't even be a problem, should there?

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Because they have had ample time since the holidays, I mean, love.

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Yesterday, a taxi finally arrived,

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which had been retrofitted with access ramps.

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Left you outside for the minute while he's pulling out these ramps.

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And I just wheeled back in and said I'm not going on those of ramps.

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-No, it was a tiny little Transit van, wasn't it?

-Mm.

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There wasn't enough clearance to get you in,

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let alone a wheelchair, and it was about one in six, wasn't it?

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It was like climbing Mount Everest!

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I can't get up on here.

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With no sign of today's taxi and Jade already late,

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they have to call a local taxi firm for themselves.

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Three, two, one, Ted Rogers.

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Up-a-daisy!

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-There we go.

-Thank you.

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It's now raining. Another worry,

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because Jade's condition means she's susceptible to pneumonia.

0:20:380:20:42

-Bye, Mum.

-Love you!

-Oh, my goodness. Look at it.

-Get your brolly.

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'Again, this morning, didn't turn up,'

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so good job I found another firm and got another taxi for Jade

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and it's 9.30 now, so she's going in college half an hour late.

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It's wrong, really, isn't it?

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David has to accompany Jade on the trip to college.

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It's proving difficult for the council to find a taxi

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with a female driver or escort that satisfies the family's request.

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She wants to go to college to enhance her education

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and pick up skills. You know, life skills,

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which are important to someone of Jade's condition.

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And they've tests on all people who suffer from a disability.

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They've now gone six days without a suitable taxi.

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The council are still working on finding a solution.

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In Swansea, Tiffany is on her way to her assessment

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for Personal Independence Payments.

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Since her Disability Living Allowance ended 12 months ago,

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she's had no benefits.

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Now, for the second time,

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she has a face-to-face meeting with the PIP health assessor.

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Tell us what happened last time you came.

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Well, last year I was a bit nervous,

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but they won't let my mum speak up, they tell her to shush.

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Like, I'm struggling to tell them, you know what I mean?

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D'you think you're going to be all right?

0:22:280:22:30

Hmm-hmm. Yeah.

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Just be there now.

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The assessment is undertaken by a private company,

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working for the Department of Work And Pensions.

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Behind closed doors, the assessor has 50 minutes with Tiffany,

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to evaluate her disabilities and needs.

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In five weeks' time,

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she will find out if her claim has been successful.

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In Bridgend, Jade's transport to college is finally sorted.

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It took a month to resolve, because it was difficult for the council

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to find a taxi with both wheelchair access

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and with a female driver.

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Jade started her course in September and, you know,

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Dad and I were taking her back and forth...

0:23:270:23:30

In the rain, weather... She's like the forgotten girl of Bridgend,

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like, and she shouldn't be.

0:23:330:23:34

They finally sorted the taxi out after all that hard work...

0:23:340:23:38

And the pressure from us.

0:23:380:23:40

..back and forth, and we finally had results. There's a female driver...

0:23:400:23:43

-Long time coming.

-..and they said good things come to those who wait.

0:23:430:23:48

Their persistence paid off and Jade now travels to

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and from college safely and without any worries.

0:23:540:23:56

When your parents have to fight for you, you are always thinking,

0:23:560:23:59

"Why can't I do this for myself?"

0:23:590:24:01

But obviously, when you've got a disability,

0:24:010:24:04

it's harder and I'm proud

0:24:040:24:05

that I've got two amazing parents who fight my corner.

0:24:050:24:08

-THEY LAUGH

-My angel.

0:24:080:24:10

Volunteer cat refuge worker Natalie Ryan has been

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unemployed for two years,

0:24:320:24:34

but she has finally found paid work in a care home.

0:24:340:24:38

It's fantastic. The job is minimum wage, but...

0:24:400:24:44

Because it's 32.5 hours a week, every week...

0:24:440:24:47

I'll know what my monthly income is every week.

0:24:480:24:51

Now Natalie has a job, the couple's Jobseeker's Allowance

0:24:550:24:59

and their housing benefit will end.

0:24:590:25:01

Michael could continue to sign on,

0:25:030:25:04

just to get his national insurance paid,

0:25:040:25:07

but he's decided he's had enough.

0:25:070:25:09

Ah, that's a result. Free.

0:25:110:25:13

-SHE SIGHS

-Free. Free at last.

-Yeah, so glad.

0:25:130:25:15

Oh, I'm glad I ain't got to do that any more.

0:25:150:25:17

-So glad.

-Yeah, it's brilliant.

0:25:170:25:19

Tell us where you've just been, guys.

0:25:200:25:22

We've just come from the Job Centre, where we've signed off.

0:25:220:25:26

Cos Natalie starts work on Monday.

0:25:260:25:30

Why have you signed off?

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And it's just... It's not worth the hassle. It's too stressful,

0:25:320:25:36

so I've just signed off completely.

0:25:360:25:38

He'll no longer have the obligation to spend hours on the internet

0:25:380:25:42

with his universal job match account.

0:25:420:25:45

We'll not be here no more, which is a huge relief.

0:25:450:25:48

He joins the 1.5 million people who've, for whatever reason,

0:25:480:25:51

left the benefits system last year.

0:25:510:25:53

Michael will no longer feature in the welfare statistics.

0:25:530:25:58

-Oh, well, home now.

-SHE LAUGHS

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Tiffany has got the result of her application

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for Personal Independence Payment.

0:26:090:26:11

As a child, she was rewarded £76 per week child disability benefit,

0:26:130:26:18

to support her, which stopped when Tiffany turned 16.

0:26:180:26:22

Now she's had the result of her second application for PIP.

0:26:230:26:27

To qualify for PIP, she needed another six points.

0:26:370:26:41

-Do you understand why they've said no?

-No.

0:26:460:26:49

She feels the difficulties she faces haven't been recognised.

0:26:520:26:56

How did you feel, Tiff, when you read that letter?

0:27:100:27:13

Tiffany will not receive any benefit which acknowledges her disability.

0:27:250:27:30

Her mother, who's been on disability benefit all her life,

0:27:300:27:33

has now lost her own disability allowance.

0:27:330:27:36

Currently, neither are considered sufficiently disabled to

0:27:360:27:39

qualify for a disability benefit.

0:27:390:27:42

Tiffany's future is uncertain.

0:27:460:27:49

If you were going for a job interview,

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what would be the biggest thing you would be worried about?

0:27:510:27:54

Despite the fact that Tiffany's disabilities haven't changed,

0:28:100:28:14

the benefits system has.

0:28:140:28:15

The new benefits system is more affordable.

0:28:210:28:24

It's argued it reduces welfare dependency

0:28:240:28:27

and levels of fraud and error.

0:28:270:28:29

But, for some, it can be difficult to negotiate and it's

0:28:310:28:34

inevitable that not all will get

0:28:340:28:36

the level of support they had in the past.

0:28:360:28:39

It's this human cost that's sometimes forgotten

0:28:400:28:43

in the story of our changing welfare system.

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