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Last time on Famous, Rich and Hungry. It is exhausting, the whole | :00:00. | :00:14. | |
time hungry. Oh my word. Four Sport Relief volunteers had a taste of | :00:15. | :00:19. | |
what life is like for people who can't afford adequate food. Cheryl | :00:20. | :00:24. | |
Fergison. I have never picked anything from the bin before. Theo | :00:25. | :00:32. | |
Paphitis. That is terrible. Rachel Johnson. ?3 for one. It is | :00:33. | :00:39. | |
unaffordable. And Jamie Laing. This is the UK and people are saying | :00:40. | :00:43. | |
things like, thank you for the food. They have spent three days living on | :00:44. | :00:51. | |
the bread line. Quite disturbing. Now they're going deeper. Moving in | :00:52. | :00:58. | |
with some of Britain's hungriest family. You're having one meal a | :00:59. | :01:03. | |
day? Yes. To unpick the problems that pushed them into poverty. You | :01:04. | :01:09. | |
need to break out of this. I have never been this far in my life. You | :01:10. | :01:17. | |
are just keeping it together. It is a living nightmare. | :01:18. | :01:24. | |
The Sport Relief volunteers are about to begin the next stage of | :01:25. | :01:30. | |
their journey through hungry Britain. Have another nibble. I'm | :01:31. | :01:39. | |
tired. The scheme has been deviced by the Children's Society. They're | :01:40. | :01:43. | |
coming back, looking forward to having a break and a nice meal. But | :01:44. | :01:49. | |
people on the breadline don't get a break and they won't. It was tough. | :01:50. | :01:54. | |
Once you have been hungry for a while, it affects your mood and what | :01:55. | :02:00. | |
you're able to cope with. Are you all right? They're now worn down. | :02:01. | :02:12. | |
Hello welcome back. You have had your first taste of what it is like | :02:13. | :02:16. | |
to experience hunger. To go out. We want to find out what it was like. | :02:17. | :02:22. | |
I'm tired, I haven't had a hot wash or bath or shower or nothing. I | :02:23. | :02:26. | |
would like to leave this billing now and go and get something to eat or | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
do something. Because basically... We are all in the same boat as well. | :02:31. | :02:36. | |
I was hungry, but the deal was we eat and drink what they do. It is | :02:37. | :02:42. | |
shocking that anybody should make do on that little money. Rachel, when | :02:43. | :02:47. | |
you left here, I think you were a bit sceptical about whether there | :02:48. | :02:52. | |
was hunger in the UK. What I saw was that people have ?3 to spend on | :02:53. | :02:59. | |
their food. They will buy the worst food available. The cheapest food | :03:00. | :03:03. | |
there is and they will be dependent on the charity of others. You have | :03:04. | :03:08. | |
been living with a mum on benefits. You can see what happens, as the | :03:09. | :03:14. | |
week got on, food got less and less. And without the food bank, I would | :03:15. | :03:19. | |
have been starving. Can we imagine this country if all the food banks | :03:20. | :03:26. | |
closed tomorrow? No. No. You have been through a lot all right already | :03:27. | :03:32. | |
and now we are sending you to live with another family for three days. | :03:33. | :03:37. | |
We want you to apply what you have learned from the past three days. | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
Are there solutions and better ways people can manage their situations. | :03:43. | :03:46. | |
We would like to see if you could use some practical skills to see if | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
you can help people in their situations. None of the volunteers | :03:52. | :03:58. | |
know where they're going. All they have been given is a name and | :03:59. | :04:02. | |
address. This will be the fourth day they have gone hungry and it will | :04:03. | :04:08. | |
get tough now. I have got all different scenarios going around in | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
my head. I hope I will be able to use any expertise from the last | :04:13. | :04:19. | |
placements and see what can be fixed. I haven't eat p anything | :04:20. | :04:24. | |
since breakfast. It is hard to eat nothing and know you won't have | :04:25. | :04:28. | |
anything tomorrow. I'm starving. What would I eat? These next couple | :04:29. | :04:35. | |
of days will be a killer. The worst case scenario is people think I'm a | :04:36. | :04:40. | |
stuck up, posh blonde bitch and I am another mouth to feed. It could be a | :04:41. | :04:49. | |
recipe for melt down. Thank you. Jamie has arrived in Sheffield. Is | :04:50. | :04:54. | |
this an estate h I don't know if it is. I haven't been on an estate | :04:55. | :05:05. | |
before. I don't like this. Heir to a multimillion pound fortune, Jamie is | :05:06. | :05:11. | |
more familiar with country than council estate. I grew up in a | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
country house with a swimming pool and tennis court. I have been | :05:16. | :05:19. | |
privileged. There has been no fear of where is the money going to come | :05:20. | :05:25. | |
from. I don't know what that is. That is not nice. Whatever it is. | :05:26. | :05:41. | |
Hi. Hello. I'm Jamie. Muhammad Ali. Muhammad Ali? What is up. Thank you | :05:42. | :05:46. | |
for having me. Are you a comedian? No, I'm not, I'm on a TV show called | :05:47. | :05:52. | |
Made In Chelsea and I go around kissing a lot of girls. That is what | :05:53. | :05:57. | |
I basically do. Mohammed was a bus driver, but he gave up to look after | :05:58. | :06:04. | |
his children. Their mum Left two years ago. I'm a father that is | :06:05. | :06:12. | |
bringing up my children. And... Struggling to bring up my children. | :06:13. | :06:17. | |
Is it all right. Can I sleep in your room. Does that mean I get to sleep | :06:18. | :06:25. | |
in dad's bed. Mohammed receives ?220 a week in benefits. But he is ?5,000 | :06:26. | :06:31. | |
in debt. He helps support his four children from a previous | :06:32. | :06:34. | |
relationship and after his debt repayments and other expenses, he | :06:35. | :06:41. | |
estimates there is ?3. 48 a day left for food. We live on a day-to-day | :06:42. | :06:46. | |
basis. The money, I was this a hard. You're juggling paying the bills, I | :06:47. | :06:52. | |
don't eat some meals. Just so they have more. You have got a limited | :06:53. | :06:56. | |
stock. If I'm going to eat everything, where are they going to | :06:57. | :07:03. | |
get their stuff from? Yes. You need to get your pajamas on. There is a | :07:04. | :07:12. | |
lot o' find out. He doesn't eat that much. He skips meals. There must be | :07:13. | :07:25. | |
other ways. I'm not an expert. Theo is in South London. Hello. Venlts | :07:26. | :07:34. | |
pleased to meet you. He will stay with Janet and John and their three | :07:35. | :07:45. | |
What do you normally do on a Saturday night? Not a lot. John | :07:46. | :07:53. | |
earns ?18,000 a year as a security guard. But most of the time the | :07:54. | :08:00. | |
family have no money for food. When you're working and you're still | :08:01. | :08:04. | |
struggling, and you have got to pay all the bills, your debts will get | :08:05. | :08:10. | |
on top of you. It like a knife going into your hear Will we work | :08:11. | :08:17. | |
something out for food. Chip shop tonight. When we haven't got any | :08:18. | :08:22. | |
money, so we get it on tick and we don't pay until. We pay it on | :08:23. | :08:29. | |
Friday. Really? The local take away is one of few sources available to | :08:30. | :08:33. | |
Janet and John. Because the owners offer them an eat now pay later | :08:34. | :08:39. | |
deal. Can I get those on tick and pay on Friday? You do it for him but | :08:40. | :08:46. | |
not everybody. A few people. A lot of families. We do sometimes credit. | :08:47. | :08:52. | |
I know they have problems. Luckily for you you don't have to give me | :08:53. | :08:56. | |
tick. Because I just have enough. Take care. Good to meet you. We are | :08:57. | :09:04. | |
done. Thank you. Take care. I have got to be honest. I haven't computed | :09:05. | :09:07. | |
everything at the moment. I don't know what to make of it. | :09:08. | :09:18. | |
Rachel is in Essex. I is grim. -- it is grim. Hello. Hello. I Rachel. I'm | :09:19. | :09:39. | |
Mick. Hi Jackie. What do you do? I'm a writer. Why are you making that | :09:40. | :09:44. | |
face? I thought you were a woman jockey! A woman jockey in With the | :09:45. | :09:52. | |
pants and the boots! That is the best compliment I have had. Mick | :09:53. | :09:56. | |
used to work as a roofer. But he has been unemployed for three years. | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
This is what I have got in my cupboard until tomorrow. The family | :10:02. | :10:08. | |
receive ?261 a week in benefits. But they're over ?2,000 in debt. When he | :10:09. | :10:14. | |
was working, we had no worries shopping, but now we're in a | :10:15. | :10:17. | |
desperate situation. It is something we can't get out of. We are trying, | :10:18. | :10:23. | |
but we can't. Make and Jackie calculate their daily food budget is | :10:24. | :10:30. | |
?1. 38 a person. That is sad. You have got your kids saying I'm | :10:31. | :10:34. | |
hungry, can I have this and I have to limit it out. Before I could just | :10:35. | :10:39. | |
get them it when they wanted it. You're a roofer? Yes. Is there any | :10:40. | :10:45. | |
roofing business around here, any work? Before we had children, I and | :10:46. | :10:51. | |
he committed a crime. You have got a criminal... A criminal card. What | :10:52. | :10:58. | |
for? Theft u burglary. Have you found nothing? Odd jobs. You're just | :10:59. | :11:05. | |
stuck in a circle, if you go to an interview and there is somebody | :11:06. | :11:07. | |
there with a criminal record and somebody without a criminal record, | :11:08. | :11:10. | |
they will employ the person without a criminal record. This is a | :11:11. | :11:17. | |
particular ly desperate situation because of their criminal records. | :11:18. | :11:20. | |
I'm not going to take over here. I don't think that is a possibility. | :11:21. | :11:25. | |
Last to arrive Cheryl, will be living in Lincolnshire. Hello. | :11:26. | :11:40. | |
Hello. Nice to meet you. How are you? I'm not just as normal as can | :11:41. | :11:53. | |
be. Oh, my gosh! Alison can afford three basic meals a day. I see them. | :11:54. | :12:02. | |
I do see crisps. That is good. She used to earn ?400 a week in the | :12:03. | :12:09. | |
leisure industry, but now lives on ?93. Was there a reason why you | :12:10. | :12:16. | |
packed up work? I became ill. It is a condition where your muscles and | :12:17. | :12:23. | |
joints hurt. You're in pain? Yes. I presume the way you're getting your | :12:24. | :12:29. | |
money is by state benefit. I don't understand what this sort of | :12:30. | :12:34. | |
situation is. I want to know why you want to be involved. The definition | :12:35. | :12:39. | |
of food poverty is not only not having enough food to eat. But it is | :12:40. | :12:44. | |
also having to scour the shops to find the cheapest bargains. And | :12:45. | :12:49. | |
living on a very low budget. I feel like I'm missing a trick and I don't | :12:50. | :12:53. | |
know what I'm missing, other than that it is hard to... For anybody to | :12:54. | :13:05. | |
live on state benefits. In the UK the minimum cost-of-living has risen | :13:06. | :13:09. | |
by more than a quarter in the last six years. Oh, my gosh. This is | :13:10. | :13:21. | |
cheese. Normally it is ?2 to buy. Come in then. Fewer households are | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
able to put adequate food on the table. Tonight, Jamie and Rachel | :13:27. | :13:34. | |
have nothing to eat. No supper. For many parents skipping meals to | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
ensure there is enough food for kids is a daily reality. I won't ask. I | :13:40. | :13:44. | |
would never ask for a meal. Have you done this job all the time. | :13:45. | :14:06. | |
For the last five years. I get paid on 25th of the month. By 26th it is | :14:07. | :14:12. | |
gone. We have no money to spend on food. That is no exaggeration. | :14:13. | :14:16. | |
People say it is my fault for getting into a bit of debt. OK. The | :14:17. | :14:24. | |
trouble is I've got a pay day loan which I took out to try and get us | :14:25. | :14:29. | |
out of trouble. Which got us more in trouble. Pay done loans offer | :14:30. | :14:34. | |
instant cash. Nationally their use is soaring. John took his out four | :14:35. | :14:42. | |
months ago. You borrowed 600 and got paid 180. In interest. The following | :14:43. | :14:51. | |
month. How much have you paid back? 720 in interest. Alone. You have | :14:52. | :14:57. | |
paid ?720 in interest. In four months. For 6 hundred quid? Yes. It | :14:58. | :15:06. | |
is a lot of money. The most vicious sieshg of debt. I can't get my head | :15:07. | :15:12. | |
around the pay day lender. I was Prime Minister, I would make it | :15:13. | :15:28. | |
illegal. The volunteers' first night with their families is drawing to a | :15:29. | :15:33. | |
close. This comes out like that. This is great. Appreciate it, I will | :15:34. | :15:46. | |
see you in the morning. A very clean house which is a good sign of a good | :15:47. | :15:59. | |
attitude. I have lost so much weight. I am confused as to why I am | :16:00. | :16:08. | |
here. I have come into a home that has food in the cupboards and food | :16:09. | :16:11. | |
in the fridge. Where is the problem? The volunteers are waking up on the | :16:12. | :16:38. | |
first morning in their households. Would I like coffee? You need to | :16:39. | :16:54. | |
ask? ! Hello. High five, respect. He is so cute, I want to play with him | :16:55. | :17:02. | |
all day. When was the last time you ate? Yesterday morning. Rachel is | :17:03. | :17:13. | |
unaware that they can seldom afford breakfast. I don't use the word | :17:14. | :17:22. | |
starving, but I am hungry. We have a couple of slices of toast every | :17:23. | :17:29. | |
couple of days. You will start losing your mind. I start crying | :17:30. | :17:38. | |
then, I get very low. I got that rundown. I am not taking your last | :17:39. | :17:44. | |
banana. You can take it. No, I couldn't. In order to make sure his | :17:45. | :17:51. | |
kids have enough, Mohammed doesn't eat breakfast diner. I am so hungry. | :17:52. | :18:00. | |
I cannot ask for food. How on earth can he make me bacon and eggs? See | :18:01. | :18:11. | |
you later. Jamie is determined to improve Mohammed Salah 's Mac and | :18:12. | :18:16. | |
food situation. As well as his own. The opportunity is all about going | :18:17. | :18:19. | |
out and finding resources. This way. Find if there is a foodbank, if | :18:20. | :18:27. | |
there is a soup kitchen. I have never been to one, I assume it sells | :18:28. | :18:35. | |
soup. Can I find -- ask your question? Have you been to a | :18:36. | :18:42. | |
foodbank? You haven't. Do you know anything about a soup kitchen food | :18:43. | :18:48. | |
banks? Sorry, no. Have you experienced hunger or anything | :18:49. | :18:56. | |
similar? It is tricky. After nearly two hours of searching, Jamie | :18:57. | :19:01. | |
finally find someone who can tell him where to get free food. Friday | :19:02. | :19:11. | |
is the Broom Hall breakfast project. This is amazing, really helpful. I | :19:12. | :19:22. | |
could kiss you. For males, about ?1 20 a meal. In Clacton, Jackie and | :19:23. | :19:27. | |
make need to go food shopping. My last meal on earth would he really | :19:28. | :19:33. | |
good read, butter and an array of French cheeses and a fantastic | :19:34. | :19:37. | |
bottle of wine. Vintage claret. What would yours be? My favourite meal? | :19:38. | :19:48. | |
Last meal on earth? McDonald's. It isn't a frequent haunt. My younger | :19:49. | :19:58. | |
brother, Joe works in Downing Street and Boris, M Bell brother runs | :19:59. | :20:09. | |
London. It would be nice that Labour would detach. Rachel has given the | :20:10. | :20:18. | |
family all of her ?4.17 food budget. That came to ?4 26. Sliced ham, | :20:19. | :20:31. | |
muffins, tomatoes. Probably do your shopping on your laptop and get it | :20:32. | :20:37. | |
delivered? It is true, I do. I pay ?6 delivery charge to get it | :20:38. | :20:45. | |
delivered. What we have just spent in the shop, is what Rachel pays for | :20:46. | :20:52. | |
delivery. You are not wrong. On another shopping trip eight months | :20:53. | :20:58. | |
ago, Jackie took a drastic step. I robbed the food shop and got caught. | :20:59. | :21:04. | |
What had you taken, how much value? Just a couple of packets of bacon | :21:05. | :21:10. | |
and some washing powder to wash the school clothes. I got a fine and | :21:11. | :21:15. | |
because I did not pay it, it went up. So you are in debt? I care more | :21:16. | :21:21. | |
about the children because Jackie and make have made, and they would | :21:22. | :21:28. | |
say it first, poor choices and made bad decisions. Their choices will | :21:29. | :21:33. | |
take away their children's ability to make good choices and have | :21:34. | :21:39. | |
opportunities that my children have had. Janet, you have got the window | :21:40. | :21:47. | |
open. Then she whines at me to put the heating on when she goes to bed. | :21:48. | :21:53. | |
She has got my trip up putting the masking tape around the window. | :21:54. | :21:59. | |
Business tycoon, Theo is the son of Greek Cypriots who came to Britain | :22:00. | :22:05. | |
when he was six. My parents just had one suitcase and had nothing. We | :22:06. | :22:11. | |
lived hand to mouth and I acclimatised in such a way I can no | :22:12. | :22:17. | |
longer relate to work I came from. I say I do, but is it true? All of | :22:18. | :22:22. | |
this came from the foodbank. I have never seen one of these. Janet and | :22:23. | :22:30. | |
John regularly depends on the foodbank. They are on first name | :22:31. | :22:34. | |
terms with the staff. How did you get through Christmas? Sarah in the | :22:35. | :22:40. | |
foodbank turned up with a box because we did not have anything in | :22:41. | :22:48. | |
the fridge. You had no turkey? No, she turned up with a turkey crown, | :22:49. | :22:56. | |
stuffing balls. I started crying. You do, you take it and it is hard. | :22:57. | :23:09. | |
It really is. Sorry... Take your time. Take your time. This man is | :23:10. | :23:25. | |
out there working and they are producing nothing but debt | :23:26. | :23:32. | |
repayments. I can honestly do not know how you deal with this. In | :23:33. | :23:41. | |
Sheffield, Jamie thinks he may have seen away for Mohammed Salah eat | :23:42. | :23:47. | |
more than one meal a day. If you want to get a hot meal, you can go | :23:48. | :23:51. | |
there for free. That is round the corner. I have associated them | :23:52. | :23:57. | |
places for the homeless. Not at all, let's go and check it out together | :23:58. | :24:04. | |
and see what happens. This could be good. Definitely, I cannot wait to | :24:05. | :24:14. | |
check it out. What you see on your right is the sort of thing that put | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
you off will stop soup kitchen is provide free meals for the | :24:19. | :24:23. | |
disadvantaged and neither Jamie all Mohammed Salah have ever been there | :24:24. | :24:25. | |
before. Maybe it is not the right place for | :24:26. | :24:43. | |
the kids. Sorry. How many are having food? I would love one if there is | :24:44. | :24:56. | |
one going. Maybe it is not the right place. The atmosphere. Didn't expect | :24:57. | :25:08. | |
that. If I had to think about it, these are the people who cannot | :25:09. | :25:14. | |
afford to buy food. What would I expect walking into these people who | :25:15. | :25:19. | |
cannot afford to buy meals. I did not think they would be alcoholics | :25:20. | :25:23. | |
and drug addicts, people who are homeless and don't have any money. I | :25:24. | :25:30. | |
wasn't expecting to see that. It is not a place for the kids, which is | :25:31. | :25:39. | |
annoying. Janet wants to show Theo wider family are unable to afford | :25:40. | :25:45. | |
food. Here, I have a pile of debts. ?673. This is for ?1004 outstanding. | :25:46. | :26:04. | |
Another final notice. 15,779% APR will stop take that in context. The | :26:05. | :26:12. | |
Bank of England base rate is under 1%. Exactly. I am lost for words. Do | :26:13. | :26:23. | |
you have a clue as to what the overall figure is that you owe? | :26:24. | :26:31. | |
20,000? I don't know, I cannot put a figure on it? You need to break out | :26:32. | :26:40. | |
of this. We cannot afford to feed the kids properly. What would happen | :26:41. | :26:44. | |
if they took you to court and you did not have the money. They could | :26:45. | :26:52. | |
bankrupt you? We did look down that road a couple of years ago, but we | :26:53. | :26:55. | |
were trying to avoid that. But I said, why not? You should consider | :26:56. | :27:05. | |
it. Bankruptcy is the last resort. Debts are written off but you are | :27:06. | :27:11. | |
credit blacklisted or many years. I would say the cancer is to do the | :27:12. | :27:15. | |
bankruptcy. They cannot keep leaving it. John is a very proud man and | :27:16. | :27:22. | |
that is the biggest challenge, to explain the benefits of it. In | :27:23. | :27:26. | |
Lincolnshire, Alison is dependent armband -- benefits. But has managed | :27:27. | :27:34. | |
to avoid getting into debt. What is this? This is the spreadsheet I have | :27:35. | :27:41. | |
been telling you about. Every day I go into my bank account and check | :27:42. | :27:47. | |
might online statement against my spreadsheet and make sure it | :27:48. | :27:51. | |
balances. So every day you add to this? Yes, and then I forecast three | :27:52. | :27:58. | |
months ahead. That is so precise so your life is about Alan sing the | :27:59. | :28:07. | |
books? Yes. So it works and you know what is going out and you have food | :28:08. | :28:16. | |
in the cupboard. My finances are so tight and I cannot risk | :28:17. | :28:21. | |
overspending. It is remarkable what she has done with the money coming | :28:22. | :28:25. | |
in. Just the organisation of it, it is amazing. Let's have a look. In | :28:26. | :28:33. | |
Clacton, Mick and Jackie still haven't eaten. When did it all | :28:34. | :28:42. | |
starts, how did you meet Jackie? We grew up together on the same estate. | :28:43. | :28:49. | |
You are childhood sweetheart? I got on heroin aged 16. Lost my job after | :28:50. | :28:59. | |
a year. How did you get on heroin? Friends gave it to me. Did you go on | :29:00. | :29:09. | |
heroin at the same time? Yes, it was a drug relationship. So your | :29:10. | :29:15. | |
criminal records was to buy drugs? When you had the kids, was that the | :29:16. | :29:21. | |
trigger that stop you? The drugs and crime? What about your mothers? With | :29:22. | :29:34. | |
a caring? Yes she was. She did the best she could. I have never met my | :29:35. | :29:42. | |
dad. I don't know my real dad either, he could pass me in the | :29:43. | :29:44. | |
street and I would not know. He left when I was young. My mother wasn't | :29:45. | :29:52. | |
very well when I was growing up. We were living in one country, and my | :29:53. | :29:58. | |
mother was in another. How poorly was she? Very, it was mental health | :29:59. | :30:06. | |
rather than physical health. She had four children, not very much help. | :30:07. | :30:11. | |
My father used to travel a lot so she was on her own and I think it | :30:12. | :30:17. | |
was quite hard for her. It must have been quite lonely? It taught me that | :30:18. | :30:24. | |
people who have mental illness, it does not mean they are not also the | :30:25. | :30:29. | |
sanest people you know and she has given me so much, like your mum, | :30:30. | :30:36. | |
probably? She did her best, I am proud of my mum. I wanted them to | :30:37. | :30:44. | |
see that what ever your background everybody has parents, stuff has | :30:45. | :30:48. | |
gone on and I don't want them to think they are alone with their | :30:49. | :30:51. | |
problems. But I have had nothing like as much. I have had an easy | :30:52. | :30:57. | |
ride. The were times when I did not have my mother around and then my | :30:58. | :31:01. | |
parents got divorced. I don't want it to be about my suffering because | :31:02. | :31:08. | |
I am healthy and solvent. I am much too privileged. Maybe the argument | :31:09. | :31:14. | |
is, it did not damage me? Jamie is struggling to find a way for | :31:15. | :31:17. | |
Mohammed to be able to eat more. He has decided to blow his entire | :31:18. | :31:24. | |
three-day food budget. Tone sure that tonight -- to ensure at least | :31:25. | :31:31. | |
tonight they can have a good meal. Get a couple of potatoes. Whatever. | :31:32. | :31:52. | |
I nearly cut myself! Oh Shrop Oh! Don't. I don't want you cut | :31:53. | :31:56. | |
yourself. How do you do it so quickly. You're base clay chef. Do | :31:57. | :32:02. | |
you want to see my knife skills? How are your knife skills so good? I | :32:03. | :32:08. | |
have been working in restaurants. We should get you on Master Chef! This | :32:09. | :32:20. | |
what is you should be doing. Have you heard your dad say I'm hungry or | :32:21. | :32:28. | |
something like that? Only once in my entire life. Once. He said... I feel | :32:29. | :32:34. | |
dizzy, I'm very hungry. Have you noticed your dad being happy or sad, | :32:35. | :32:39. | |
or has he always been the same. He is happy, because he always says | :32:40. | :32:47. | |
that I'm the best, me and Aidan are the best sons a man can have. Yeah. | :32:48. | :32:53. | |
That is what he said. Which is true, you know that. All he has done is | :32:54. | :32:58. | |
talk about you boys. He is a good dad? A very good dad. Oh, God! This | :32:59. | :33:08. | |
experience is just... Like Adam and Aidan, Jamie was brought up by a | :33:09. | :33:12. | |
single parent. It has taught me that family is the most important thing | :33:13. | :33:17. | |
in your life. I have taken so many things for granted. It makes me | :33:18. | :33:26. | |
appreciate things more. Love you too! Hello. Hello. Jamie. Hello. Oh, | :33:27. | :33:39. | |
God, how are you? Hi mum. Oh, my God. I have been awake every night | :33:40. | :33:44. | |
worrying. Last night was the worst. What I have realised, I thought I | :33:45. | :33:50. | |
was going to get into this and... Learn a lot more about you know | :33:51. | :33:55. | |
appreciating things and not paying for stuff as much. Which I think I | :33:56. | :33:59. | |
appreciated, but it is not really what I have learned. Everything is a | :34:00. | :34:03. | |
lot deeper than just those things. But what I have realised is that... | :34:04. | :34:10. | |
Is that... What is so important in life is family. It is the only | :34:11. | :34:17. | |
thing. I want you to know that... Above everything that... Yeah. That | :34:18. | :34:32. | |
I do... That... That I do really appreciate everything you've done! I | :34:33. | :34:45. | |
know. I know you do. Love you, buy. Our volunteers are half way through | :34:46. | :34:52. | |
their stay with their hosts. I'm not going to slip off in here. How to | :34:53. | :34:58. | |
make some extra money! Mohammed and Jamie's day starts with a three and | :34:59. | :35:04. | |
a half mile trip to drop the boys off. Freezing. It is like round the | :35:05. | :35:10. | |
corner. Mohammed and I both haven't eaten and we have done a 20 minute | :35:11. | :35:16. | |
walk. It is freezing. I can hardly move my mouth. With nothing in your | :35:17. | :35:23. | |
body apart from a tea or coffee, it is exhausting. I'm cold and hungry. | :35:24. | :35:28. | |
When was the last time you had breakfast, lunch and dinner. A long | :35:29. | :35:34. | |
time ago. Why won't you have that to have more energy. It is taking stuff | :35:35. | :35:40. | |
that is there for the kids. It is not practical. Those Weetabix, there | :35:41. | :35:47. | |
is another 12 pieces left. And 12 pieces that is... Is like six days | :35:48. | :35:51. | |
breakfast. What does a normal evening meal cost you zm Three and a | :35:52. | :35:59. | |
half kid. So that is I suppose all the money gone during the day, which | :36:00. | :36:05. | |
is difficult. But maybe you cook your kids the most amazing meal | :36:06. | :36:09. | |
every night. You have to reduce certain things. One ingredient you | :36:10. | :36:18. | |
can reduce and still make a Gordon Ramsay style meal. You need energy. | :36:19. | :36:24. | |
In a weird way you can say maybe you're not doing the best thing fr | :36:25. | :36:28. | |
your kids, because you don't have the energy. Let's have one half a | :36:29. | :36:33. | |
Weetabix. At least you're eating something. This is... Get a spoon | :36:34. | :36:41. | |
and have some. No it is yours. Go for it. How are you feeling? I am | :36:42. | :36:58. | |
still feeling guilty. Why. Because I want to do this regular. But I don't | :36:59. | :37:07. | |
want to... Reduce the kids. It is about finding ways for you to eat as | :37:08. | :37:11. | |
well as your kids. All your doing is giving too much to your kids and too | :37:12. | :37:15. | |
little to yourself. It is a new leaf. You're an amazing | :37:16. | :37:38. | |
father and an amazing role model. I actually feel full. There you go. | :37:39. | :37:44. | |
Because your body hasn't eaten in I don't know how long. Thanks man. | :37:45. | :37:52. | |
Let's do it. While Sheryl has popped out, Alison is doing her daily check | :37:53. | :38:00. | |
on her finances. I have had a complete panic attack. Alison was | :38:01. | :38:05. | |
expecting her housing benefit to have been paid, but it has not been. | :38:06. | :38:10. | |
She moved and her new local authority has different pay dates. | :38:11. | :38:19. | |
The worst. I'm going to be minus ?236. 49. That is charges instantly. | :38:20. | :38:25. | |
I can just about cope from day-to-day. But this is it. It is | :38:26. | :38:31. | |
just - it's just tipped me over the edge. I will have to ask for the | :38:32. | :38:37. | |
food bank. It is just so upsetting. Because I have never been in this | :38:38. | :38:47. | |
bad in my life. Hello. You all right? What is the matter. I checked | :38:48. | :38:56. | |
my bank account this morning. The rent's gone out. The rent's gone | :38:57. | :39:02. | |
out? Any rent's already gone out. And it is minus. So you're paying | :39:03. | :39:09. | |
charges? Yes. This is a real shock to you? Every single day I'm on my | :39:10. | :39:14. | |
spread sheet on my bank account and checking one against the other. It | :39:15. | :39:18. | |
doesn't matter how much your doing the thing you know should be | :39:19. | :39:25. | |
working, it is not working. No. When I arrived I thought, what is the | :39:26. | :39:30. | |
problem? Alison's got her spread sheet and know what is she is doing. | :39:31. | :39:37. | |
But just one little thing with set things off. It puts things in a | :39:38. | :39:45. | |
sense of perspective for me. There's been nights when we haven't been | :39:46. | :39:49. | |
able to have dinner. There is nights when it is hard. Janet has spoke on | :39:50. | :39:57. | |
the John about Theo oes bankruptcy suggestion. I mean, that has a | :39:58. | :40:03. | |
catastrophic effect on your quality of food. There hack very little -- | :40:04. | :40:08. | |
there has been very lilt fresh of anything. You have not had any fresh | :40:09. | :40:12. | |
veg since I have been here. No, we live on tinned stuff. It is | :40:13. | :40:17. | |
depressing. You can't carry op like this. You -- you can't carry on like | :40:18. | :40:23. | |
this. Pride may have been stopping me. Because I feel as if I have let | :40:24. | :40:28. | |
everybody down and doing the bankruptcy, I have even let the | :40:29. | :40:33. | |
people down that I owe money to. Consider it as the loss of a battle. | :40:34. | :40:39. | |
But win the war. There has been many elements during last few days that | :40:40. | :40:46. | |
have taken me back to the times as a young teenager. This used to be my | :40:47. | :40:54. | |
word. -- world. What if. What if I haven't got out? What if... I hadn't | :40:55. | :41:02. | |
had the breaks? What if... I was still here? I don't know. It | :41:03. | :41:14. | |
frightens me. It frightens me. I have never been here Jaime Ji has | :41:15. | :41:20. | |
persuaded Mohammed to try another community lunch service. Hello. Fish | :41:21. | :41:32. | |
cake. Two for us two. This is nice. It is nice. Hello. Thank you. Thank | :41:33. | :41:41. | |
you. Is everything all right? It is delicious. Thank you so much. Really | :41:42. | :41:49. | |
good. What do you think about this place compared to the other one? | :41:50. | :41:57. | |
Much, it's more warmer. I'm full! Though they haven't been asked for | :41:58. | :42:03. | |
money today, meals here cost ?1.80. But the staff that run the kitchen | :42:04. | :42:10. | |
eat free. Which gives Jamie an idea. You feed people. We give them | :42:11. | :42:17. | |
dignity. Kevin and Steven are responsible for vetting staff. What | :42:18. | :42:21. | |
steps does he need to take to have an interview and volunteer here? We | :42:22. | :42:30. | |
have an application form. It is a one side form and it asks for couple | :42:31. | :42:36. | |
of ref Repses. -- references. Would it be possible for me to show off | :42:37. | :42:42. | |
some of my skills. As a taster to see whether it would be suitable | :42:43. | :42:45. | |
before we go through all the procedure? I think it would. You | :42:46. | :42:50. | |
come in tomorrow, I'm sure Pam and the other ladies in the kitchen will | :42:51. | :42:54. | |
look after you. Just see how we work. Then before you go, you could | :42:55. | :43:01. | |
eat the fruits of your labour and have a meal. I would be happy to do | :43:02. | :43:10. | |
that. Thank you. Bye guys. See you tomorrow. Bye guys. That was magic. | :43:11. | :43:19. | |
There we go. All we need to do is go there. I know that. I will be here | :43:20. | :43:24. | |
every day. Does it not feel good? Of course it does. I could cry. I'm | :43:25. | :43:31. | |
glad we did this. I said I would give it a go by turning things | :43:32. | :43:42. | |
around. You know? Let's get the kids. Thank you. Sheryl, Alison and | :43:43. | :43:51. | |
her grandson for heading for the local council office to see if they | :43:52. | :43:57. | |
can sort out Alison's housing benefit issue. If we can get some | :43:58. | :44:02. | |
crisis loan. They must be able to do something. That is the point of the | :44:03. | :44:06. | |
exercise. If we think positive and think that is what, we are going to | :44:07. | :44:10. | |
go in with nothing and come out with a result. Yeah. After an hour, | :44:11. | :44:16. | |
Sheryl and Alison have news. Excellent. Thank you so much. The | :44:17. | :44:22. | |
council have agreed to change her payment date. So she can now pay her | :44:23. | :44:27. | |
bills. What happened is what we call in London a result! I'm glad Sheryl | :44:28. | :44:34. | |
is here. I'm feeling positive now. Compared to this morning. I'm so | :44:35. | :44:44. | |
pleased and chuffed. In Clacton, Jackie has received news concerning | :44:45. | :44:48. | |
her shoplifting conviction. I have had the most distressing call tr my | :44:49. | :44:55. | |
solicitor that there maybe a warpt out for my - warrant out for my | :44:56. | :45:02. | |
arrest. : If you stop paying it. We can't pay it. They may resentence | :45:03. | :45:11. | |
me. Again? Yes. Because I can't pay the fine it might be community | :45:12. | :45:23. | |
service or prison now. When are you going to know? My solicitor is going | :45:24. | :45:29. | |
to ring me back. It is a living nightmare. Following her conviction | :45:30. | :45:35. | |
the court ordered Jackie to pay ?116. Have you made any start on | :45:36. | :45:46. | |
repaying the fine? Food is more important than paying the fine. | :45:47. | :45:52. | |
Because I could not pay if they have sent it to a debt ting company. The | :45:53. | :45:56. | |
private company have added penalty fees. That fine is now ?700. Why | :45:57. | :46:08. | |
allow a fine to go up threefold when the person cannot pay to start with? | :46:09. | :46:14. | |
It seems irresponsible. It is not as if you have taken a loan out, this | :46:15. | :46:20. | |
is a fine. Did you know they outsourced their debts to commercial | :46:21. | :46:25. | |
debt collectors, which means the fine is not the original fine at | :46:26. | :46:32. | |
all? I did not know. Unable to repay a debt that has more than tripled, | :46:33. | :46:35. | |
Jackie now faces the possibility of prison. Every time they open their | :46:36. | :46:43. | |
mouths, some other horrendous tale comes out. This is a trap. They are | :46:44. | :46:50. | |
trapped by their past. They could put me in jail. And that would be | :46:51. | :46:57. | |
hard. It would be tough. I don't think I could do it now. They would | :46:58. | :47:08. | |
miss me. I would miss them. It is not the body warmer, it is another | :47:09. | :47:19. | |
coat. Janet and John have decided to speak to a debt adviser to find out | :47:20. | :47:22. | |
if I'm crap see is an option to them. How much of the rent arrears? | :47:23. | :47:34. | |
About ?4000. Do you have anything on hire purchase? Yes, we have a car, | :47:35. | :47:39. | |
payday loans, doorstep loans, I cannot name them all. We have been | :47:40. | :47:45. | |
advised bankruptcy is the next stage because we are going round in | :47:46. | :47:50. | |
circles. Bankruptcy is a way of writing these debts off. They will | :47:51. | :48:00. | |
have a big impact on your credit reference file, but for some people | :48:01. | :48:05. | |
it can be a good option. I hope it all goes well. Thank you. I am so | :48:06. | :48:19. | |
glad we had that phone call. A bit of pride goes out the window, I am | :48:20. | :48:22. | |
sure, but they can start living. This will be an amazing day. Because | :48:23. | :48:48. | |
today, Adam, I have had breakfast, I have had a heart dinner. A massive | :48:49. | :48:56. | |
fishcake, about this big. And this is going to be my third meal. Third | :48:57. | :49:07. | |
meal, oh my God! There you go. It is my third mail and I will try to do | :49:08. | :49:12. | |
this everyday. Try to get a bit more fat. I have another surprise. This | :49:13. | :49:23. | |
centre we went to, me and Jamie, I asked for a volunteering job. I | :49:24. | :49:28. | |
asked for it and I got it. Are you happy? Sick. It is going to get me | :49:29. | :49:39. | |
doing what I love best and I will get a hot dinner every day I | :49:40. | :49:50. | |
volunteer. Epic. Exactly the word I was going to use, epic. Epic. Today | :49:51. | :50:01. | |
was an amazing day. One of the first times in my life I actually went out | :50:02. | :50:06. | |
to help another human being. I can honestly say it was one of the most | :50:07. | :50:18. | |
rewarding things I have ever done. In Clacton, there is still no news. | :50:19. | :50:26. | |
It is getting towards the close of play and we are awaiting a call back | :50:27. | :50:30. | |
from Jackie's solicitor which will tell us if Jackie has got to be | :50:31. | :50:36. | |
resentenced or go to prison. I have just text, " am I in court" ? Hello. | :50:37. | :50:56. | |
Yes. OK, thank you very much, that is a relief. Thank you, I will do. | :50:57. | :51:08. | |
Thank you. What has happened? I don't have too attend so it is not a | :51:09. | :51:16. | |
prisoner ball offence, they will try to get the fine quashed, if not they | :51:17. | :51:22. | |
will organise a repayment schedule. That is a relief. How could you not | :51:23. | :51:32. | |
feel for that? It is an extreme situation to be in. Complete | :51:33. | :51:37. | |
powerlessness for both of them. When you ask me the compassion for the | :51:38. | :51:44. | |
poor, the unemployed and those on benefits, it is difficult. We have | :51:45. | :51:49. | |
personalised this experience which makes it easy for me to feel | :51:50. | :51:56. | |
compassion. It is very hard to see a story having a Hollywood ending. For | :51:57. | :52:08. | |
the volunteers, the challenge is almost over. Feel like we have | :52:09. | :52:15. | |
achieved something, I think he will carry on to do well. Don't, mate. | :52:16. | :52:30. | |
You have done this yourself. Keep pushing forward. You have the most | :52:31. | :52:37. | |
wonderful family Indian tyre world. Goodbye. Thank you for having me. -- | :52:38. | :52:52. | |
in the entire world. He has showed me a lot to fight for. Made me | :52:53. | :52:57. | |
realise I need to start looking after myself so I can look after | :52:58. | :53:03. | |
these as well. I feel like I am going to happy cry now. Goodbye | :53:04. | :53:18. | |
sweetie. And you so much for looking after me. You have been amazing. | :53:19. | :53:28. | |
Good luck. Goodbye. I think we have put the point across there is food | :53:29. | :53:36. | |
poverty in Britain. You can't help get attached to people when you are | :53:37. | :53:43. | |
living in their house. I have really enjoyed it. You know what you need | :53:44. | :53:48. | |
to do. We know what we need to do. Take care. Thank you very much. | :53:49. | :53:57. | |
Goodbye, guys. This is a new start and that is what I am looking | :53:58. | :54:02. | |
forward to. Take care, thank you so much. I have laughed a lot along the | :54:03. | :54:16. | |
way. It has given me hope. Before I did this week, I could imagine me | :54:17. | :54:24. | |
passing Mick and Jackie and the kids in the street and thinking, typical | :54:25. | :54:35. | |
chav family. Now, I would never look at a family like that again. It | :54:36. | :54:43. | |
makes me feel ashamed of myself. The hungriest I have ever been. The | :54:44. | :54:48. | |
hungriest I have ever been. When you go to bed and all you think about is | :54:49. | :54:52. | |
food and being hungry, it is not a nice feeling. It is an empty | :54:53. | :54:58. | |
feeling. It puts it into live as to how many people in Britain are going | :54:59. | :55:05. | |
through this. It is incredible, really. | :55:06. | :55:17. | |
Hello. Let me look at you. How are you? You weigh less than me. Five in | :55:18. | :55:34. | |
one week and there is nothing of you anyway. Will I be spending money in | :55:35. | :55:42. | |
a nightclub, I have no idea. But it has made me look at things in a | :55:43. | :55:52. | |
different way. I understand hunger poverty far more than I thought I | :55:53. | :55:56. | |
would understand it. It is not just because of finances, but the symptom | :55:57. | :56:02. | |
of a lot of things. It just ends up being a vital ingredient, paying the | :56:03. | :56:05. | |
price for food. Have you been all right, you lot? | :56:06. | :56:21. | |
These people, I have part of their lives. That means something in my | :56:22. | :56:24. | |
book. Mum? Well done. I am now back in the company of the | :56:25. | :56:54. | |
rich and I can spend ?100 on dinner and I have left them in the land of | :56:55. | :56:57. | |
the poor. I am very, very aware of that. Britain is two countries and I | :56:58. | :57:02. | |
have just gone from one to the other. Dear Mohammed, keep fighting | :57:03. | :57:13. | |
and don't give up. You have baby chance to make it, Jamie. -- every | :57:14. | :57:18. | |
chance to make it. Sport Relief money is at work | :57:19. | :58:09. | |
tonight all around the UK. It is supporting food items, breakfast | :58:10. | :58:13. | |
clubs and the whole of the range of projects like what you have seen in | :58:14. | :58:17. | |
this programme. You could be making a difference to families living | :58:18. | :58:20. | |
around the corner to | :58:21. | :58:22. |