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Last time on Famous, Rich and Hungry. It is exhausting, the whole

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time hungry. Oh my word. Four Sport Relief volunteers had a taste of

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what life is like for people who can't afford adequate food. Cheryl

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Fergison. I have never picked anything from the bin before. Theo

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Paphitis. That is terrible. Rachel Johnson. ?3 for one. It is

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unaffordable. And Jamie Laing. This is the UK and people are saying

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things like, thank you for the food. They have spent three days living on

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the bread line. Quite disturbing. Now they're going deeper. Moving in

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with some of Britain's hungriest family. You're having one meal a

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day? Yes. To unpick the problems that pushed them into poverty. You

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need to break out of this. I have never been this far in my life. You

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are just keeping it together. It is a living nightmare.

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The Sport Relief volunteers are about to begin the next stage of

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their journey through hungry Britain. Have another nibble. I'm

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tired. The scheme has been deviced by the Children's Society. They're

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coming back, looking forward to having a break and a nice meal. But

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people on the breadline don't get a break and they won't. It was tough.

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Once you have been hungry for a while, it affects your mood and what

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you're able to cope with. Are you all right? They're now worn down.

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Hello welcome back. You have had your first taste of what it is like

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to experience hunger. To go out. We want to find out what it was like.

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I'm tired, I haven't had a hot wash or bath or shower or nothing. I

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would like to leave this billing now and go and get something to eat or

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do something. Because basically... We are all in the same boat as well.

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I was hungry, but the deal was we eat and drink what they do. It is

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shocking that anybody should make do on that little money. Rachel, when

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you left here, I think you were a bit sceptical about whether there

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was hunger in the UK. What I saw was that people have ?3 to spend on

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their food. They will buy the worst food available. The cheapest food

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there is and they will be dependent on the charity of others. You have

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been living with a mum on benefits. You can see what happens, as the

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week got on, food got less and less. And without the food bank, I would

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have been starving. Can we imagine this country if all the food banks

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closed tomorrow? No. No. You have been through a lot all right already

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and now we are sending you to live with another family for three days.

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We want you to apply what you have learned from the past three days.

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Are there solutions and better ways people can manage their situations.

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We would like to see if you could use some practical skills to see if

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you can help people in their situations. None of the volunteers

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know where they're going. All they have been given is a name and

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address. This will be the fourth day they have gone hungry and it will

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get tough now. I have got all different scenarios going around in

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my head. I hope I will be able to use any expertise from the last

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placements and see what can be fixed. I haven't eat p anything

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since breakfast. It is hard to eat nothing and know you won't have

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anything tomorrow. I'm starving. What would I eat? These next couple

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of days will be a killer. The worst case scenario is people think I'm a

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stuck up, posh blonde bitch and I am another mouth to feed. It could be a

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recipe for melt down. Thank you. Jamie has arrived in Sheffield. Is

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this an estate h I don't know if it is. I haven't been on an estate

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before. I don't like this. Heir to a multimillion pound fortune, Jamie is

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more familiar with country than council estate. I grew up in a

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country house with a swimming pool and tennis court. I have been

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privileged. There has been no fear of where is the money going to come

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from. I don't know what that is. That is not nice. Whatever it is.

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Hi. Hello. I'm Jamie. Muhammad Ali. Muhammad Ali? What is up. Thank you

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for having me. Are you a comedian? No, I'm not, I'm on a TV show called

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Made In Chelsea and I go around kissing a lot of girls. That is what

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I basically do. Mohammed was a bus driver, but he gave up to look after

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his children. Their mum Left two years ago. I'm a father that is

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bringing up my children. And... Struggling to bring up my children.

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Is it all right. Can I sleep in your room. Does that mean I get to sleep

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in dad's bed. Mohammed receives ?220 a week in benefits. But he is ?5,000

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in debt. He helps support his four children from a previous

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relationship and after his debt repayments and other expenses, he

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estimates there is ?3. 48 a day left for food. We live on a day-to-day

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basis. The money, I was this a hard. You're juggling paying the bills, I

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don't eat some meals. Just so they have more. You have got a limited

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stock. If I'm going to eat everything, where are they going to

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get their stuff from? Yes. You need to get your pajamas on. There is a

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lot o' find out. He doesn't eat that much. He skips meals. There must be

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other ways. I'm not an expert. Theo is in South London. Hello. Venlts

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pleased to meet you. He will stay with Janet and John and their three

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What do you normally do on a Saturday night? Not a lot. John

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earns ?18,000 a year as a security guard. But most of the time the

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family have no money for food. When you're working and you're still

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struggling, and you have got to pay all the bills, your debts will get

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on top of you. It like a knife going into your hear Will we work

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something out for food. Chip shop tonight. When we haven't got any

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money, so we get it on tick and we don't pay until. We pay it on

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Friday. Really? The local take away is one of few sources available to

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Janet and John. Because the owners offer them an eat now pay later

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deal. Can I get those on tick and pay on Friday? You do it for him but

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not everybody. A few people. A lot of families. We do sometimes credit.

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I know they have problems. Luckily for you you don't have to give me

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tick. Because I just have enough. Take care. Good to meet you. We are

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done. Thank you. Take care. I have got to be honest. I haven't computed

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everything at the moment. I don't know what to make of it.

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Rachel is in Essex. I is grim. -- it is grim. Hello. Hello. I Rachel. I'm

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Mick. Hi Jackie. What do you do? I'm a writer. Why are you making that

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face? I thought you were a woman jockey! A woman jockey in With the

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pants and the boots! That is the best compliment I have had. Mick

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used to work as a roofer. But he has been unemployed for three years.

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This is what I have got in my cupboard until tomorrow. The family

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receive ?261 a week in benefits. But they're over ?2,000 in debt. When he

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was working, we had no worries shopping, but now we're in a

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desperate situation. It is something we can't get out of. We are trying,

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but we can't. Make and Jackie calculate their daily food budget is

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?1. 38 a person. That is sad. You have got your kids saying I'm

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hungry, can I have this and I have to limit it out. Before I could just

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get them it when they wanted it. You're a roofer? Yes. Is there any

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roofing business around here, any work? Before we had children, I and

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he committed a crime. You have got a criminal... A criminal card. What

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for? Theft u burglary. Have you found nothing? Odd jobs. You're just

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stuck in a circle, if you go to an interview and there is somebody

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there with a criminal record and somebody without a criminal record,

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they will employ the person without a criminal record. This is a

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particular ly desperate situation because of their criminal records.

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I'm not going to take over here. I don't think that is a possibility.

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Last to arrive Cheryl, will be living in Lincolnshire. Hello.

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Hello. Nice to meet you. How are you? I'm not just as normal as can

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be. Oh, my gosh! Alison can afford three basic meals a day. I see them.

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I do see crisps. That is good. She used to earn ?400 a week in the

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leisure industry, but now lives on ?93. Was there a reason why you

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packed up work? I became ill. It is a condition where your muscles and

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joints hurt. You're in pain? Yes. I presume the way you're getting your

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money is by state benefit. I don't understand what this sort of

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situation is. I want to know why you want to be involved. The definition

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of food poverty is not only not having enough food to eat. But it is

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also having to scour the shops to find the cheapest bargains. And

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living on a very low budget. I feel like I'm missing a trick and I don't

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know what I'm missing, other than that it is hard to... For anybody to

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live on state benefits. In the UK the minimum cost-of-living has risen

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by more than a quarter in the last six years. Oh, my gosh. This is

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cheese. Normally it is ?2 to buy. Come in then. Fewer households are

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able to put adequate food on the table. Tonight, Jamie and Rachel

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have nothing to eat. No supper. For many parents skipping meals to

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ensure there is enough food for kids is a daily reality. I won't ask. I

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would never ask for a meal. Have you done this job all the time.

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For the last five years. I get paid on 25th of the month. By 26th it is

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gone. We have no money to spend on food. That is no exaggeration.

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People say it is my fault for getting into a bit of debt. OK. The

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trouble is I've got a pay day loan which I took out to try and get us

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out of trouble. Which got us more in trouble. Pay done loans offer

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instant cash. Nationally their use is soaring. John took his out four

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months ago. You borrowed 600 and got paid 180. In interest. The following

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month. How much have you paid back? 720 in interest. Alone. You have

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paid ?720 in interest. In four months. For 6 hundred quid? Yes. It

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is a lot of money. The most vicious sieshg of debt. I can't get my head

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around the pay day lender. I was Prime Minister, I would make it

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illegal. The volunteers' first night with their families is drawing to a

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close. This comes out like that. This is great. Appreciate it, I will

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see you in the morning. A very clean house which is a good sign of a good

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attitude. I have lost so much weight. I am confused as to why I am

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here. I have come into a home that has food in the cupboards and food

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in the fridge. Where is the problem? The volunteers are waking up on the

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first morning in their households. Would I like coffee? You need to

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ask? ! Hello. High five, respect. He is so cute, I want to play with him

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all day. When was the last time you ate? Yesterday morning. Rachel is

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unaware that they can seldom afford breakfast. I don't use the word

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starving, but I am hungry. We have a couple of slices of toast every

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couple of days. You will start losing your mind. I start crying

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then, I get very low. I got that rundown. I am not taking your last

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banana. You can take it. No, I couldn't. In order to make sure his

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kids have enough, Mohammed doesn't eat breakfast diner. I am so hungry.

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I cannot ask for food. How on earth can he make me bacon and eggs? See

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you later. Jamie is determined to improve Mohammed Salah 's Mac and

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food situation. As well as his own. The opportunity is all about going

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out and finding resources. This way. Find if there is a foodbank, if

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there is a soup kitchen. I have never been to one, I assume it sells

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soup. Can I find -- ask your question? Have you been to a

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foodbank? You haven't. Do you know anything about a soup kitchen food

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banks? Sorry, no. Have you experienced hunger or anything

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similar? It is tricky. After nearly two hours of searching, Jamie

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finally find someone who can tell him where to get free food. Friday

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is the Broom Hall breakfast project. This is amazing, really helpful. I

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could kiss you. For males, about ?1 20 a meal. In Clacton, Jackie and

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make need to go food shopping. My last meal on earth would he really

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good read, butter and an array of French cheeses and a fantastic

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bottle of wine. Vintage claret. What would yours be? My favourite meal?

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Last meal on earth? McDonald's. It isn't a frequent haunt. My younger

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brother, Joe works in Downing Street and Boris, M Bell brother runs

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London. It would be nice that Labour would detach. Rachel has given the

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family all of her ?4.17 food budget. That came to ?4 26. Sliced ham,

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muffins, tomatoes. Probably do your shopping on your laptop and get it

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delivered? It is true, I do. I pay ?6 delivery charge to get it

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delivered. What we have just spent in the shop, is what Rachel pays for

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delivery. You are not wrong. On another shopping trip eight months

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ago, Jackie took a drastic step. I robbed the food shop and got caught.

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What had you taken, how much value? Just a couple of packets of bacon

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and some washing powder to wash the school clothes. I got a fine and

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because I did not pay it, it went up. So you are in debt? I care more

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about the children because Jackie and make have made, and they would

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say it first, poor choices and made bad decisions. Their choices will

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take away their children's ability to make good choices and have

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opportunities that my children have had. Janet, you have got the window

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open. Then she whines at me to put the heating on when she goes to bed.

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She has got my trip up putting the masking tape around the window.

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Business tycoon, Theo is the son of Greek Cypriots who came to Britain

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when he was six. My parents just had one suitcase and had nothing. We

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lived hand to mouth and I acclimatised in such a way I can no

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longer relate to work I came from. I say I do, but is it true? All of

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this came from the foodbank. I have never seen one of these. Janet and

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John regularly depends on the foodbank. They are on first name

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terms with the staff. How did you get through Christmas? Sarah in the

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foodbank turned up with a box because we did not have anything in

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the fridge. You had no turkey? No, she turned up with a turkey crown,

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stuffing balls. I started crying. You do, you take it and it is hard.

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It really is. Sorry... Take your time. Take your time. This man is

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out there working and they are producing nothing but debt

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repayments. I can honestly do not know how you deal with this. In

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Sheffield, Jamie thinks he may have seen away for Mohammed Salah eat

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more than one meal a day. If you want to get a hot meal, you can go

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there for free. That is round the corner. I have associated them

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places for the homeless. Not at all, let's go and check it out together

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and see what happens. This could be good. Definitely, I cannot wait to

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check it out. What you see on your right is the sort of thing that put

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you off will stop soup kitchen is provide free meals for the

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disadvantaged and neither Jamie all Mohammed Salah have ever been there

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before. Maybe it is not the right place for

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the kids. Sorry. How many are having food? I would love one if there is

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one going. Maybe it is not the right place. The atmosphere. Didn't expect

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that. If I had to think about it, these are the people who cannot

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afford to buy food. What would I expect walking into these people who

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cannot afford to buy meals. I did not think they would be alcoholics

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and drug addicts, people who are homeless and don't have any money. I

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wasn't expecting to see that. It is not a place for the kids, which is

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annoying. Janet wants to show Theo wider family are unable to afford

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food. Here, I have a pile of debts. ?673. This is for ?1004 outstanding.

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Another final notice. 15,779% APR will stop take that in context. The

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Bank of England base rate is under 1%. Exactly. I am lost for words. Do

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you have a clue as to what the overall figure is that you owe?

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20,000? I don't know, I cannot put a figure on it? You need to break out

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of this. We cannot afford to feed the kids properly. What would happen

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if they took you to court and you did not have the money. They could

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bankrupt you? We did look down that road a couple of years ago, but we

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were trying to avoid that. But I said, why not? You should consider

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it. Bankruptcy is the last resort. Debts are written off but you are

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credit blacklisted or many years. I would say the cancer is to do the

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bankruptcy. They cannot keep leaving it. John is a very proud man and

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that is the biggest challenge, to explain the benefits of it. In

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Lincolnshire, Alison is dependent armband -- benefits. But has managed

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to avoid getting into debt. What is this? This is the spreadsheet I have

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been telling you about. Every day I go into my bank account and check

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might online statement against my spreadsheet and make sure it

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balances. So every day you add to this? Yes, and then I forecast three

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months ahead. That is so precise so your life is about Alan sing the

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books? Yes. So it works and you know what is going out and you have food

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in the cupboard. My finances are so tight and I cannot risk

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overspending. It is remarkable what she has done with the money coming

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in. Just the organisation of it, it is amazing. Let's have a look. In

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Clacton, Mick and Jackie still haven't eaten. When did it all

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starts, how did you meet Jackie? We grew up together on the same estate.

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You are childhood sweetheart? I got on heroin aged 16. Lost my job after

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a year. How did you get on heroin? Friends gave it to me. Did you go on

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heroin at the same time? Yes, it was a drug relationship. So your

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criminal records was to buy drugs? When you had the kids, was that the

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trigger that stop you? The drugs and crime? What about your mothers? With

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a caring? Yes she was. She did the best she could. I have never met my

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dad. I don't know my real dad either, he could pass me in the

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street and I would not know. He left when I was young. My mother wasn't

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very well when I was growing up. We were living in one country, and my

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mother was in another. How poorly was she? Very, it was mental health

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rather than physical health. She had four children, not very much help.

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My father used to travel a lot so she was on her own and I think it

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was quite hard for her. It must have been quite lonely? It taught me that

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people who have mental illness, it does not mean they are not also the

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sanest people you know and she has given me so much, like your mum,

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probably? She did her best, I am proud of my mum. I wanted them to

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see that what ever your background everybody has parents, stuff has

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gone on and I don't want them to think they are alone with their

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problems. But I have had nothing like as much. I have had an easy

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ride. The were times when I did not have my mother around and then my

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parents got divorced. I don't want it to be about my suffering because

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I am healthy and solvent. I am much too privileged. Maybe the argument

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is, it did not damage me? Jamie is struggling to find a way for

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Mohammed to be able to eat more. He has decided to blow his entire

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three-day food budget. Tone sure that tonight -- to ensure at least

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tonight they can have a good meal. Get a couple of potatoes. Whatever.

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I nearly cut myself! Oh Shrop Oh! Don't. I don't want you cut

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yourself. How do you do it so quickly. You're base clay chef. Do

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you want to see my knife skills? How are your knife skills so good? I

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have been working in restaurants. We should get you on Master Chef! This

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what is you should be doing. Have you heard your dad say I'm hungry or

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something like that? Only once in my entire life. Once. He said... I feel

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dizzy, I'm very hungry. Have you noticed your dad being happy or sad,

:32:35.:32:39.

or has he always been the same. He is happy, because he always says

:32:40.:32:47.

that I'm the best, me and Aidan are the best sons a man can have. Yeah.

:32:48.:32:53.

That is what he said. Which is true, you know that. All he has done is

:32:54.:32:58.

talk about you boys. He is a good dad? A very good dad. Oh, God! This

:32:59.:33:08.

experience is just... Like Adam and Aidan, Jamie was brought up by a

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single parent. It has taught me that family is the most important thing

:33:13.:33:17.

in your life. I have taken so many things for granted. It makes me

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appreciate things more. Love you too! Hello. Hello. Jamie. Hello. Oh,

:33:27.:33:39.

God, how are you? Hi mum. Oh, my God. I have been awake every night

:33:40.:33:44.

worrying. Last night was the worst. What I have realised, I thought I

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was going to get into this and... Learn a lot more about you know

:33:51.:33:55.

appreciating things and not paying for stuff as much. Which I think I

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appreciated, but it is not really what I have learned. Everything is a

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lot deeper than just those things. But what I have realised is that...

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Is that... What is so important in life is family. It is the only

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thing. I want you to know that... Above everything that... Yeah. That

:34:18.:34:32.

I do... That... That I do really appreciate everything you've done! I

:34:33.:34:45.

know. I know you do. Love you, buy. Our volunteers are half way through

:34:46.:34:52.

their stay with their hosts. I'm not going to slip off in here. How to

:34:53.:34:58.

make some extra money! Mohammed and Jamie's day starts with a three and

:34:59.:35:04.

a half mile trip to drop the boys off. Freezing. It is like round the

:35:05.:35:10.

corner. Mohammed and I both haven't eaten and we have done a 20 minute

:35:11.:35:16.

walk. It is freezing. I can hardly move my mouth. With nothing in your

:35:17.:35:23.

body apart from a tea or coffee, it is exhausting. I'm cold and hungry.

:35:24.:35:28.

When was the last time you had breakfast, lunch and dinner. A long

:35:29.:35:34.

time ago. Why won't you have that to have more energy. It is taking stuff

:35:35.:35:40.

that is there for the kids. It is not practical. Those Weetabix, there

:35:41.:35:47.

is another 12 pieces left. And 12 pieces that is... Is like six days

:35:48.:35:51.

breakfast. What does a normal evening meal cost you zm Three and a

:35:52.:35:59.

half kid. So that is I suppose all the money gone during the day, which

:36:00.:36:05.

is difficult. But maybe you cook your kids the most amazing meal

:36:06.:36:09.

every night. You have to reduce certain things. One ingredient you

:36:10.:36:18.

can reduce and still make a Gordon Ramsay style meal. You need energy.

:36:19.:36:24.

In a weird way you can say maybe you're not doing the best thing fr

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your kids, because you don't have the energy. Let's have one half a

:36:29.:36:33.

Weetabix. At least you're eating something. This is... Get a spoon

:36:34.:36:41.

and have some. No it is yours. Go for it. How are you feeling? I am

:36:42.:36:58.

still feeling guilty. Why. Because I want to do this regular. But I don't

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want to... Reduce the kids. It is about finding ways for you to eat as

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well as your kids. All your doing is giving too much to your kids and too

:37:12.:37:15.

little to yourself. It is a new leaf. You're an amazing

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father and an amazing role model. I actually feel full. There you go.

:37:39.:37:44.

Because your body hasn't eaten in I don't know how long. Thanks man.

:37:45.:37:52.

Let's do it. While Sheryl has popped out, Alison is doing her daily check

:37:53.:38:00.

on her finances. I have had a complete panic attack. Alison was

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expecting her housing benefit to have been paid, but it has not been.

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She moved and her new local authority has different pay dates.

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The worst. I'm going to be minus ?236. 49. That is charges instantly.

:38:20.:38:25.

I can just about cope from day-to-day. But this is it. It is

:38:26.:38:31.

just - it's just tipped me over the edge. I will have to ask for the

:38:32.:38:37.

food bank. It is just so upsetting. Because I have never been in this

:38:38.:38:47.

bad in my life. Hello. You all right? What is the matter. I checked

:38:48.:38:56.

my bank account this morning. The rent's gone out. The rent's gone

:38:57.:39:02.

out? Any rent's already gone out. And it is minus. So you're paying

:39:03.:39:09.

charges? Yes. This is a real shock to you? Every single day I'm on my

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spread sheet on my bank account and checking one against the other. It

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doesn't matter how much your doing the thing you know should be

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working, it is not working. No. When I arrived I thought, what is the

:39:26.:39:30.

problem? Alison's got her spread sheet and know what is she is doing.

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But just one little thing with set things off. It puts things in a

:39:38.:39:45.

sense of perspective for me. There's been nights when we haven't been

:39:46.:39:49.

able to have dinner. There is nights when it is hard. Janet has spoke on

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the John about Theo oes bankruptcy suggestion. I mean, that has a

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catastrophic effect on your quality of food. There hack very little --

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there has been very lilt fresh of anything. You have not had any fresh

:40:09.:40:12.

veg since I have been here. No, we live on tinned stuff. It is

:40:13.:40:17.

depressing. You can't carry op like this. You -- you can't carry on like

:40:18.:40:23.

this. Pride may have been stopping me. Because I feel as if I have let

:40:24.:40:28.

everybody down and doing the bankruptcy, I have even let the

:40:29.:40:33.

people down that I owe money to. Consider it as the loss of a battle.

:40:34.:40:39.

But win the war. There has been many elements during last few days that

:40:40.:40:46.

have taken me back to the times as a young teenager. This used to be my

:40:47.:40:54.

word. -- world. What if. What if I haven't got out? What if... I hadn't

:40:55.:41:02.

had the breaks? What if... I was still here? I don't know. It

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frightens me. It frightens me. I have never been here Jaime Ji has

:41:15.:41:20.

persuaded Mohammed to try another community lunch service. Hello. Fish

:41:21.:41:32.

cake. Two for us two. This is nice. It is nice. Hello. Thank you. Thank

:41:33.:41:41.

you. Is everything all right? It is delicious. Thank you so much. Really

:41:42.:41:49.

good. What do you think about this place compared to the other one?

:41:50.:41:57.

Much, it's more warmer. I'm full! Though they haven't been asked for

:41:58.:42:03.

money today, meals here cost ?1.80. But the staff that run the kitchen

:42:04.:42:10.

eat free. Which gives Jamie an idea. You feed people. We give them

:42:11.:42:17.

dignity. Kevin and Steven are responsible for vetting staff. What

:42:18.:42:21.

steps does he need to take to have an interview and volunteer here? We

:42:22.:42:30.

have an application form. It is a one side form and it asks for couple

:42:31.:42:36.

of ref Repses. -- references. Would it be possible for me to show off

:42:37.:42:42.

some of my skills. As a taster to see whether it would be suitable

:42:43.:42:45.

before we go through all the procedure? I think it would. You

:42:46.:42:50.

come in tomorrow, I'm sure Pam and the other ladies in the kitchen will

:42:51.:42:54.

look after you. Just see how we work. Then before you go, you could

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eat the fruits of your labour and have a meal. I would be happy to do

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that. Thank you. Bye guys. See you tomorrow. Bye guys. That was magic.

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There we go. All we need to do is go there. I know that. I will be here

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every day. Does it not feel good? Of course it does. I could cry. I'm

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glad we did this. I said I would give it a go by turning things

:43:32.:43:42.

around. You know? Let's get the kids. Thank you. Sheryl, Alison and

:43:43.:43:51.

her grandson for heading for the local council office to see if they

:43:52.:43:57.

can sort out Alison's housing benefit issue. If we can get some

:43:58.:44:02.

crisis loan. They must be able to do something. That is the point of the

:44:03.:44:06.

exercise. If we think positive and think that is what, we are going to

:44:07.:44:10.

go in with nothing and come out with a result. Yeah. After an hour,

:44:11.:44:16.

Sheryl and Alison have news. Excellent. Thank you so much. The

:44:17.:44:22.

council have agreed to change her payment date. So she can now pay her

:44:23.:44:27.

bills. What happened is what we call in London a result! I'm glad Sheryl

:44:28.:44:34.

is here. I'm feeling positive now. Compared to this morning. I'm so

:44:35.:44:44.

pleased and chuffed. In Clacton, Jackie has received news concerning

:44:45.:44:48.

her shoplifting conviction. I have had the most distressing call tr my

:44:49.:44:55.

solicitor that there maybe a warpt out for my - warrant out for my

:44:56.:45:02.

arrest. : If you stop paying it. We can't pay it. They may resentence

:45:03.:45:11.

me. Again? Yes. Because I can't pay the fine it might be community

:45:12.:45:23.

service or prison now. When are you going to know? My solicitor is going

:45:24.:45:29.

to ring me back. It is a living nightmare. Following her conviction

:45:30.:45:35.

the court ordered Jackie to pay ?116. Have you made any start on

:45:36.:45:46.

repaying the fine? Food is more important than paying the fine.

:45:47.:45:52.

Because I could not pay if they have sent it to a debt ting company. The

:45:53.:45:56.

private company have added penalty fees. That fine is now ?700. Why

:45:57.:46:08.

allow a fine to go up threefold when the person cannot pay to start with?

:46:09.:46:14.

It seems irresponsible. It is not as if you have taken a loan out, this

:46:15.:46:20.

is a fine. Did you know they outsourced their debts to commercial

:46:21.:46:25.

debt collectors, which means the fine is not the original fine at

:46:26.:46:32.

all? I did not know. Unable to repay a debt that has more than tripled,

:46:33.:46:35.

Jackie now faces the possibility of prison. Every time they open their

:46:36.:46:43.

mouths, some other horrendous tale comes out. This is a trap. They are

:46:44.:46:50.

trapped by their past. They could put me in jail. And that would be

:46:51.:46:57.

hard. It would be tough. I don't think I could do it now. They would

:46:58.:47:08.

miss me. I would miss them. It is not the body warmer, it is another

:47:09.:47:19.

coat. Janet and John have decided to speak to a debt adviser to find out

:47:20.:47:22.

if I'm crap see is an option to them. How much of the rent arrears?

:47:23.:47:34.

About ?4000. Do you have anything on hire purchase? Yes, we have a car,

:47:35.:47:39.

payday loans, doorstep loans, I cannot name them all. We have been

:47:40.:47:45.

advised bankruptcy is the next stage because we are going round in

:47:46.:47:50.

circles. Bankruptcy is a way of writing these debts off. They will

:47:51.:48:00.

have a big impact on your credit reference file, but for some people

:48:01.:48:05.

it can be a good option. I hope it all goes well. Thank you. I am so

:48:06.:48:19.

glad we had that phone call. A bit of pride goes out the window, I am

:48:20.:48:22.

sure, but they can start living. This will be an amazing day. Because

:48:23.:48:48.

today, Adam, I have had breakfast, I have had a heart dinner. A massive

:48:49.:48:56.

fishcake, about this big. And this is going to be my third meal. Third

:48:57.:49:07.

meal, oh my God! There you go. It is my third mail and I will try to do

:49:08.:49:12.

this everyday. Try to get a bit more fat. I have another surprise. This

:49:13.:49:23.

centre we went to, me and Jamie, I asked for a volunteering job. I

:49:24.:49:28.

asked for it and I got it. Are you happy? Sick. It is going to get me

:49:29.:49:39.

doing what I love best and I will get a hot dinner every day I

:49:40.:49:50.

volunteer. Epic. Exactly the word I was going to use, epic. Epic. Today

:49:51.:50:01.

was an amazing day. One of the first times in my life I actually went out

:50:02.:50:06.

to help another human being. I can honestly say it was one of the most

:50:07.:50:18.

rewarding things I have ever done. In Clacton, there is still no news.

:50:19.:50:26.

It is getting towards the close of play and we are awaiting a call back

:50:27.:50:30.

from Jackie's solicitor which will tell us if Jackie has got to be

:50:31.:50:36.

resentenced or go to prison. I have just text, " am I in court" ? Hello.

:50:37.:50:56.

Yes. OK, thank you very much, that is a relief. Thank you, I will do.

:50:57.:51:08.

Thank you. What has happened? I don't have too attend so it is not a

:51:09.:51:16.

prisoner ball offence, they will try to get the fine quashed, if not they

:51:17.:51:22.

will organise a repayment schedule. That is a relief. How could you not

:51:23.:51:32.

feel for that? It is an extreme situation to be in. Complete

:51:33.:51:37.

powerlessness for both of them. When you ask me the compassion for the

:51:38.:51:44.

poor, the unemployed and those on benefits, it is difficult. We have

:51:45.:51:49.

personalised this experience which makes it easy for me to feel

:51:50.:51:56.

compassion. It is very hard to see a story having a Hollywood ending. For

:51:57.:52:08.

the volunteers, the challenge is almost over. Feel like we have

:52:09.:52:15.

achieved something, I think he will carry on to do well. Don't, mate.

:52:16.:52:30.

You have done this yourself. Keep pushing forward. You have the most

:52:31.:52:37.

wonderful family Indian tyre world. Goodbye. Thank you for having me. --

:52:38.:52:52.

in the entire world. He has showed me a lot to fight for. Made me

:52:53.:52:57.

realise I need to start looking after myself so I can look after

:52:58.:53:03.

these as well. I feel like I am going to happy cry now. Goodbye

:53:04.:53:18.

sweetie. And you so much for looking after me. You have been amazing.

:53:19.:53:28.

Good luck. Goodbye. I think we have put the point across there is food

:53:29.:53:36.

poverty in Britain. You can't help get attached to people when you are

:53:37.:53:43.

living in their house. I have really enjoyed it. You know what you need

:53:44.:53:48.

to do. We know what we need to do. Take care. Thank you very much.

:53:49.:53:57.

Goodbye, guys. This is a new start and that is what I am looking

:53:58.:54:02.

forward to. Take care, thank you so much. I have laughed a lot along the

:54:03.:54:16.

way. It has given me hope. Before I did this week, I could imagine me

:54:17.:54:24.

passing Mick and Jackie and the kids in the street and thinking, typical

:54:25.:54:35.

chav family. Now, I would never look at a family like that again. It

:54:36.:54:43.

makes me feel ashamed of myself. The hungriest I have ever been. The

:54:44.:54:48.

hungriest I have ever been. When you go to bed and all you think about is

:54:49.:54:52.

food and being hungry, it is not a nice feeling. It is an empty

:54:53.:54:58.

feeling. It puts it into live as to how many people in Britain are going

:54:59.:55:05.

through this. It is incredible, really.

:55:06.:55:17.

Hello. Let me look at you. How are you? You weigh less than me. Five in

:55:18.:55:34.

one week and there is nothing of you anyway. Will I be spending money in

:55:35.:55:42.

a nightclub, I have no idea. But it has made me look at things in a

:55:43.:55:52.

different way. I understand hunger poverty far more than I thought I

:55:53.:55:56.

would understand it. It is not just because of finances, but the symptom

:55:57.:56:02.

of a lot of things. It just ends up being a vital ingredient, paying the

:56:03.:56:05.

price for food. Have you been all right, you lot?

:56:06.:56:21.

These people, I have part of their lives. That means something in my

:56:22.:56:24.

book. Mum? Well done. I am now back in the company of the

:56:25.:56:54.

rich and I can spend ?100 on dinner and I have left them in the land of

:56:55.:56:57.

the poor. I am very, very aware of that. Britain is two countries and I

:56:58.:57:02.

have just gone from one to the other. Dear Mohammed, keep fighting

:57:03.:57:13.

and don't give up. You have baby chance to make it, Jamie. -- every

:57:14.:57:18.

chance to make it. Sport Relief money is at work

:57:19.:58:09.

tonight all around the UK. It is supporting food items, breakfast

:58:10.:58:13.

clubs and the whole of the range of projects like what you have seen in

:58:14.:58:17.

this programme. You could be making a difference to families living

:58:18.:58:20.

around the corner to

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