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ALARMS BLARE | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
Just move yourselves over to the side for a minute. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
This winter, one of Britain's busiest NHS Trusts opened its doors... | 0:00:09 | 0:00:14 | |
We have to look after the patients | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
whether they come from Buck Palace or the park bench. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
..to show us what's really happening inside our hospitals. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
We've got lots of patients now, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:23 | |
competing for an unknown number of beds. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
Every week, more than 20,000 people are treated here. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
-The pressure's just gone. -What?! Has it completely gone? | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
And the numbers, as well as our expectations, are rising. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
We just had our worst ten days on record. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
There's nowhere in the hospital to move anybody. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
At some point, somebody will be telling us whether we're allowed to do any work. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
This is a place with some of the best specialists in the world... | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
The tumour's out. Job done. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:53 | |
..where lives are transformed. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
This is saving his life. It has to work. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
But they are operating at a time when the NHS | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
has never been under more pressure. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
-Any beds? -No. -No beds for anyone? -No. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
It does feel to me like the elastic's | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
a bit nearer to breaking now than it ever was. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:15 | |
Its very future under scrutiny. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
All right, I think we will go out on red, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
because we're under real pressure in the emergency department. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
We're aware of the problems. Anybody got a solution(?) | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
Following the patients from the moment they are admitted... | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
Anything I've done up to this point means nothing | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
compared to when you can literally give a bit of yourself | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
to save someone else. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
..to the moment they leave. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
It's all good news. The cancer's gone. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
You don't need any more treatment. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
-Fantastic! -Thank you so much. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
Week by week, we reveal the complex decisions the staff must make | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
about who to care for next. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
That patient is coming to me to be operated on, and if I don't do it, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
then there's only one inevitable outcome - they're going to die. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
Just been brought in by ambulance. Onset of stroke symptoms. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
Gerry? Just look at me. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
Keep your eyes open nice and wide. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
Look at me, look at me, look at me. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
Gerry? Look at me? Can you see me all right? | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
87-year-old Gerry has been brought into Charing Cross Hospital | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
after suffering a stroke. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
Gerry, can you see my hand waving? | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
A medical emergency that occurs when the blood supply | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
to part of the brain is cut off. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
Gerry, open your eyes and look at me. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
Family just suddenly saw him go. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
I got a telephone call from my son to say | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
Dad wasn't well, come home quickly. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
Just one look, and I knew what was happening. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
Gerry, same on the right. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
Gerry is being looked after by doctors from the hospital's | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
acute stroke unit. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
70% of their patients are over 65. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
The longer you wait to try and restore blood flow | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
to a part of the brain that's been affected, the more brain cells, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
or neurons, will die. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:07 | |
Hi, there. Are you family? Wife, OK. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
-He's never had a stroke as far as you're aware? -No. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
-He's never had any brain surgery. -No, no. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
-He's never had a brain haemorrhage before? -No. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
We need to rush, and the first thing we need to do is to do a brain scan. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
This has all been quite slow. Let's speed up a bit. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
We want to get treatment into Gerry as quickly as possible. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
Rydell, do you want to run ahead and tell CC we're coming. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
Well done, Gerry. You're doing OK. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
We're going to do a quick scan of your head, which is quite important. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
Sorry, guys. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
I've a stroke. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:48 | |
We called up, they said come up. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
OK, what do you want to do? | 0:03:52 | 0:03:53 | |
-It's going to take about five minutes. -That's fine, then. -Yep. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
All right, let's get this done. One, two, three... | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
As a stroke patient, Gerry has priority for the CT scanner, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
so doctors can quickly decide if he's suitable | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
for an emergency treatment known as thrombolysis. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
He's late eighties, he's got no neurological history. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
We really need to look at the scan, and then we'll make a decision. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
There are no contraindications, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:23 | |
so we should just go ahead and give thrombosic therapy. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
I'm going to go downstairs to make sure the family are happy. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
Gerry is a candidate for thrombolysis, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
which is a medical injection that is aimed to break down the blood clot. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
Giving thrombolysis to the wrong patients | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
can cause haemorrhage, or bleeding. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
And that haemorrhage can be life-threatening, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
and can even cause death. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
Em, Rydell, can you get the thrombolysis ready? | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
I've prepped it already. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
Come and sit down for a while. OK. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
Gerry's just having the last few scans. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
There's no bleeding into the head as far as we can tell, so it looks like | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
this is a stroke that's been caused by a blood clot, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
and the best course would be to give him this clot-busting treatment. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
However, it's also important to know it's not a miracle cure, at all. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
And one of its most serious side-effects is bleeding. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
And that bleeding could potentially be life-threatening. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
-You know, we've got to understand that all treatments can go wrong. -Yes. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
-I trust you. -Sure. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
-And he's then... As far as I'm concerned, he's in safe hands. -Sure. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
All right, I'll be with you soon. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
Would you time two minutes for me? And just give her 30-second updates. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
-That's one minute. -OK, well done. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
It's just such a shock. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
But, he's 87, and we know... | 0:05:49 | 0:05:54 | |
that it's inevitable that something's going to happen | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
at some point. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:57 | |
Age is a very strong risk factor for strokes, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
so with an ageing population, you'd expect the incidence of stroke to rise. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
Every year that goes by, we're feeling incredibly stretched. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
We don't want standards to drop, and it feel like standards are slipping. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:14 | |
OK. Well done. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
It will be several hours before Gerry's wife, Margaret, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
knows how well he's responding to treatment. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
Along with Charing Cross, Hammersmith is one of | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
the five hospitals that make up Imperial College Healthcare NHS Trust. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
Retired carpenter John requires an operation | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
to replace a valve in his heart. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
If you're on the top floor, you might have a nice view. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
John's procedure, known as a TAVI, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
a transcatheter aortic valve importation, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
will be conducted by consultant cardiologist Iqbal Malick. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
A TAVI is a way of deploying a new valve inside the heart | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
without cutting the patient too much. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
It's an insane thing to even consider, isn't it? | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
A squashed valve goes into an artery while the patient's awake. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
You track back to the heart and pop the new valve into position. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
The patient goes home the next day. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
That's something that would have been | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
ludicrous to consider ten years ago. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
-So, you're 98. -And a half. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
-And a half! You've never had a stroke? -No. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
-You don't have diabetes? -No. -You don't look 98. -Thank you. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
-Age is just a number, you see. -Yeah. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
At 98, John will be the oldest patient ever operated on | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
by the TAVI team. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
Some of the team is nervous that we'll be seen as lunatics | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
doing a 98-year-old. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
I don't think so. I'm going to lead a team. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
I don't think so, I think they can do what they like. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
I bet you when it's their granny they'll be asking for | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
a 98-year-old to have their TAVI done. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
Have you done any other 98-year-olds? | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
That would be a no, I think. I think we're... | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
We're not far off it, I think we've done 95, but, em... Yeah. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
They did, yeah. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
Let's go through the case. So, he's 98. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
We know his creatinine's 200. It hasn't changed. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
Renal team's seen him, don't want to do anything in particular. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
The average age for TAVI is 80, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
so these are patients who can't have open-heart surgery, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
and a number of years ago we couldn't offer patients anything. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
So, now we're in a privileged position of offering TAVI | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
to these elderly patients. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:37 | |
He's got so much more in him. He's still so full of life. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
My grandparents are my favourite people in the entire world, so... | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
I'm sure it's the same for everyone. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
How many times have you been to hospital before in your life? | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
I had some varicose veins out... | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
Em... | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
Oh, when I was... | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
About 50 years ago, now. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
That was the last time you've been? | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
Yeah. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
He's incredible. At the age of 87, he walked up Vesuvius. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
I think he only stopped running races against | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
me and my brother around the age of 90, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
and he would try and win, as well, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
this wasn't like he was trying to let us win. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
She says they haven't done anybody my age before. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
But it's not about age, that's what we were saying to you before, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
it's not just about age, it's about how fit you are, otherwise. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
You'll be running out of here. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:45 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
"Three choices. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
"Give up, give in, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
"or give it your all." | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
Is now a good time to ask you what you'd like for Christmas? | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
I'd like to be alive. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
Mr Rowland? Hi, Dr Malik. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
-Hi. -Nice to see you. -And you. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
OK, so... | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
-Can you hear me OK? -Yeah. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
You've been through the risks before. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
-Yeah. -You know what we're talking about, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
but I will double check that you do understand. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
Just as a short memory test, what is the problem | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
that you had with your heart? | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
Well, I get out of breath very quickly and couldn't walk very far. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
Yeah, OK. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
-In terms of risk... -Yeah. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
..if we did 100 cases, OK, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
then about five of them would have a bad problem. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
-One in 20? -Yeah. And that problem... | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
When you say they have a problem, will it mean they would be dead? | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
Death, stroke, bleeding, heart attack. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
OK? | 0:10:58 | 0:10:59 | |
Is that an acceptable level of risk for you? | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
-Yeah, well, I haven't much alternative. -OK. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
What's your date of birth, John? | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
March 1918. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
1918, my goodness. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
OK, and can I just get you to sign on the dotted line, John? | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
If you're up for having this procedure done. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
It's a miraculous treatment for the older patients that we | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
couldn't treat before, that we are now treating. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
Every cardiologist would hope to have one really important | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
step that has suddenly changed in their lifetime that they can | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
experience and I think for me, at the age of 50 now, it's TAVI. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
Demand for heart valve procedure TAVI | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
has tripled at Hammersmith in the last three years. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
What, the old valve, the other valve? | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
John is the second of these patients on Iqbal's list today. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
The first is a patient in their 80s. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
Is that pressure... | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
-Who are you calling? -Rex. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
-It's bleeding too much, so he thinks he might want to open. -OK. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
OK, so this is an unexpected complication in the first procedure. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:08 | |
MONITOR BEEPS | 0:12:08 | 0:12:13 | |
The first case hasn't gone according to plan, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
because there's been some bleeding internally. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
TAVIs, you can't quite predict what's going on. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
Normally, they are very straightforward and this is | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
the first for the year where we've had a major complication. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
It's now likely that the patient will need | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
a post-operative intensive-care bed. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
But that means one won't be available for 98-year-old John, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
if his operation runs into trouble. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
I'm trying to find another bed. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:41 | |
Sometimes, if they've got an incapacity here, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
we can use one of their intensive-care beds | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
as a backup fallback. For the next case. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
-Hello, are you the boss? -I am today, yes. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
You may have heard, we had a bit of an emergency | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
-in the first procedure today. -Yes. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
We have therefore lost our ICU bed. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
-But we have a second TAVI. -Yeah. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
We need a fallback critical-care bed, because he's...he's 98. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
-Yeah. -Otherwise quite well, no previous surgeries. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
We are full at the moment. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:11 | |
16 inpatients and 16 bed spaces. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
Two of the patients were going to go and I think one | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
was a cardiology patient. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
So, the deal is, we have to take one back? | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
-Yeah, there will be a degree of swapping, but... -OK. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
We are in some difficulty in there. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
The bleeding has restarted and therefore, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
we can't really think about other cases. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
We have a senior surgeon operating, but I think the rest of the day in | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
this particular lab is not going to be working out. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
I think we are going to have to cancel the TAVI. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
This is not just realistic. We're not even ready now | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
and by the time he gets on, it will be four. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:46 | |
By the time we finish it, six. If something goes wrong at six, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
we are much less coverage, so... I think it's safety first. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:13:56 | 0:13:57 | |
Operating out of hours on elective cases that are high-risk | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
is not clever. I think if it all went well, I'd be finished by five. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
You know, I think that's fine. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
But actually, if it didn't go so well, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
then the complication is being managed out of hours, with, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
you know, less team around. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
'I think it's unfortunate.' | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
So, old Father Time has defeated us. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
-My luck. -Exactly, just your luck. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
But the thing that has destabilised us is a very rare eventuality, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
so, sorry about today. OK? | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
I'm going to get them to give you a cup of tea, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
give you some food, because we've kept you starved all day. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
-OK? -Thank you very much. -OK. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
OK, so I'm just coming down now. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
Yeah. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
Something he wasn't expecting and we were quite certain that it | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
was going to happen today. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
And... | 0:14:51 | 0:14:52 | |
But what can you do? | 0:14:54 | 0:14:55 | |
We know that there is a risk to doing the procedure, | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
but we were told by the cardiologist, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:02 | |
without this operation, he has a 50% chance of sudden death. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
John will have to come back next week | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
for another attempt at the procedure. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
Boring! | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
I like shows like Casualty, Holby City, House. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
Grey's Anatomy. I like stuff like that. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
Because I'd like to be a children's nurse, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:38 | |
and help...people like me. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
-How are you doing? -OK. -Good. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
The Trust's paediatric centre offers pioneering treatments | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
for patients up to 19 years old. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
Just lift that up for me a little bit. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
Debbie was diagnosed with sickle cell disease when she was three. | 0:15:55 | 0:16:00 | |
'Sickle cell, it's like a blood disorder. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
'It causes pain in the joints, and your arms, and your knees | 0:16:03 | 0:16:08 | |
'and your legs, but it can affect any part of the body, really.' | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
-Can I pop this here? -Yeah. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
'But more severely, your brain. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
'It can cause strokes and neurological problems, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
'and that's what happened to me.' | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
That's when they considered that I need a transplant, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
so that I don't get any more damage to my brain. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
-Thank you. -NURSE LAUGHS | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
The only cure for sickle cell disease is a bone marrow transplant, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
which 18-year-old Debbie has been waiting for since 2009. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:43 | |
Yeah. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
A standard bone marrow transplant requires | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
the donor's tissue type to be a 100% match. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
Doctors have been unable to find Debbie a suitable donor. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
But a new treatment is offering her a lifeline. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
-Sally, how is Deborah today? -Not feeling very well. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
Would you mind giving me her chart, so I can have a look at it. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
In normal circumstances, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:08 | |
were you to do a 50% mismatched transplant, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
that would almost certainly | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
lead to the patient dying, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
from the new bone marrow attacking the body of the patient. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
But we now have a method which will enable this new bone marrow, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
which is only 50% match, not to be rejected by her body. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
-AUTOMATED VOICE: -Doors opening. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
This new method allows Debbie's 22-year-old brother Sam | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
to be her donor, even though his tissue type | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
is only a 50% match with hers. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
I'm here to see Debbie. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
Deborah. Erm, 13. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
What way, that way or...? | 0:17:49 | 0:17:50 | |
'Bless her, because the illness, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
'she hasn't had that 18-year-old life at all,' | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
so if I can give her a chance, a fighting chance, | 0:17:54 | 0:18:00 | |
to obviously never have to be in that condition again, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
or go through all the crises she's been going through again... | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
Because she's got SO much to catch up on and so much more to do. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
'And I remember when we used to go to the same primary school, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
'me always looking out for her, going into the younger playground | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
'to see if she's all right. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
'So, luckily enough, I was a close match.' | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
Debbie. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:27 | |
-Aww. -Have you been worrying about things? | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
-No. -Because all that worry is for us, OK? | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
She's worried, OK. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:39 | |
Yeah. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:42 | |
ALL LAUGH | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
At the moment, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:45 | |
this type of transplant for sickle cell disease is only funded | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
for children and young adolescents | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
up to the age of 19. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:53 | |
And then you have some more of the mesna, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
which is a kidney protection, running afterwards. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -Is there a risk of death | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
with this type of bone marrow transplant? | 0:19:00 | 0:19:01 | |
Yes, there is a risk of death, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
and the risk does goes up with the degree of mismatch of the donor. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:10 | |
However, as current situation stands, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
this is Debbie's last chance to get her bone marrow transplant. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
They said it will come with loads of risks, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
but I just want to have it, so that I can continue with my life. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:26 | |
Gerry? Hello. How are you feeling now? | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
HE ATTEMPTS TO SPEAK | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
It's two-and-a-half hours since stroke patient Gerry | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
was brought into A&E. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
..better view. Gerry, what year is it now? | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
Oh... | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
INDISTINCT | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
-Don't worry about that, that's fine. -I don't know. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
Touch my finger. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
See my finger? Gerry, can you see my finger there? Touch your nose. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
Perfect. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
How old are you? | 0:20:16 | 0:20:17 | |
Do you know what day it is today? | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
Good. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
Lift up your leg. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:25 | |
OK, five seconds. One, two, three.. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
They have saved us here. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
They've got Gerry moving again, they've got him talking again. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
The change is remarkable in such a short space of time. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
How are you feeling, Gerry? | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
Oh, that's good. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
Yeah, it's VERY good. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
I think you're going to do fine, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
but we need to keep you in hospital for a few days. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
OK. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
-We'll pop in a bit later on, OK? -OK. -Nice to see you. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
-Thank you. -All the best. -Thank you very much. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
Gerry will recover at Charing Cross Hospital's Hyper-Acute Stroke Unit, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
or HASU, one of eight specialist stroke centres in London. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
The thing that everyone worries about | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
with someone who's had a stroke is, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
they're at risk of having another stroke. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
So he's not out of the woods at all, we're going to have to | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
closely monitor him, he's got very powerful medication on the board. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
Things look promising, let's keep our fingers crossed. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
SIREN WAILS | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
I'm going to put it over the top, | 0:21:33 | 0:21:34 | |
because it will be finished before that, probably. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
18-year-old Debbie is preparing for her bone marrow transplant | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
by receiving chemotherapy to deplete her immune system. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
Chemotherapy just makes you feel completely lifeless. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
You don't want to eat, it makes you feel so sick. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
You've got no energy whatsoever | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
and you just can't do anything. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
Ohh. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:06 | |
Hey, Dad. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
How is she? | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
Ohh. It's horrible seeing her like this, though. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
I know. I'm here. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
How are you feeling? | 0:22:22 | 0:22:23 | |
I don't feel good. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
Aww. I didn't realise it was to this extent. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:33 | |
-Yeah. -Debbie. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
HE BLOWS HER A KISS | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
Don't worry. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:39 | |
I'll see you soon, yeah? | 0:22:44 | 0:22:45 | |
That was, er, very difficult to see. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
Never seen her like that, ever. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
Ever. And I've never really heard her say she feels not good. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
Even if she don't feel good, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
she'll say she feels all right, know what I mean? | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
She was always very optimistic, but obviously the chemo | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
has rendered her into that sort of state, hasn't it? So... | 0:23:06 | 0:23:11 | |
It's very hard. Very hard to see. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
Debbie is travelling to Hammersmith Hospital, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
where she will receive a high dose of radiation. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
Are they on their way? Right, great. Thanks, bye. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:34 | |
It's the last stage of treatment before her transplant. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
Hi, Deborah, my name's Faye, I'm one of the radiographers | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
doing your treatment today. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
We're going to be putting some little measuring devices | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
onto your skin. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:45 | |
Just do a small little dose first, and then once we're happy, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
we'll then do the main part of the treatment. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
You OK? Do you want some water? | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
Headache. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
Would you like to have the lights down? | 0:23:58 | 0:23:59 | |
-LEENA: -The whole thing is a bit like a Trojan horse. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
We're trying to get past the guards. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
See you in a bit, Deborah. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
If we don't do it, then there will be a lot of reaction between | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
the two immune systems, one of Debbie's | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
and one of the new bone marrow. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
We've got a gantry of 270, colls of zero, | 0:24:16 | 0:24:21 | |
and the Y, 25 on the Xs. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:22 | |
We've checked we're all covered. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
-Yep. -They're ready. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
We're good to go here. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
CLICKING | 0:24:33 | 0:24:34 | |
She doesn't seem very well at all, has she been like this today or...? | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
About a week now. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:43 | |
She's very nervous about today. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
It's the not knowing, isn't it? | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
Right lateral. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:02 | |
All finished. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:14 | |
Deborah, how are you? | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
-How are you, darling? -WEAKLY: -Not well. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
You have pain in your eyes when you look at me? | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
Debbie's immune system is now so depleted, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
even a mild virus could kill her. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
Would you mind if I quickly touch your tummy? Would that be OK? | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
You can see that though it is fantastic that we are now | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
able to carry a transplant, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
the truth is that the treatment itself is very tough. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
Sorry, I have a little bit of cold hands. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
The doses we use in transplantation are far higher than we would | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
use usually in the treatment of cancer. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
So the number of side-effects these children suffer, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
and these young people suffer, is substantial. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
OK. It's a difficult time. We'll leave you in peace. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
-FATHER: -All right, thank you. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:31 | |
SIREN WAILS | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
So we are going to attend the TAVI multi-disciplinary team meeting. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
Which is a meeting we have every week, essentially, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
to discuss all cases that we are considering for the TAVI procedure. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:51 | |
For a second time, consultant cardiologist Ghada Mikhail | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
is preparing for 98-year-old John's heart valve procedure. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:01 | |
So it's the multi-disciplinary, it's attended by cardiologists, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
surgeons, echo imaging doctors, CT doctors - all the TAVI team. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
OK, good morning. So, the first case is Mr John Rowland, 98. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:15 | |
This case was the case we were supposed to do last week | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
and it got cancelled, so we're just rediscussing him cos he's booked... | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
-Can I just answer first? -Yes. -So, 98? -98. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
You need to persuade me that there is no frailty. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
Can we just re-review the echo? | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
Do you want to take us through the echo? | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
In many ways, we are - and the NHS is - a victim of its own success. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
So we have so many elderly patients now, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
and we are getting into discussions about life expectancy | 0:27:40 | 0:27:45 | |
when patients are already in their nineties. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
But the PA pressure was up as well, with a good ventricle, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
how do you explain that? | 0:27:51 | 0:27:52 | |
Overall LV function looks preserved. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
'With the TAVI MDT, it's particularly difficult, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
'because this is a high-risk group of patients. Cost does come into it. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
'I have a responsibility to manage resources effectively.' | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
But actually, we try and pick the winners on clinical grounds, | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
and we have to decide, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
does he have enough reserve to come through the procedure? | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
Because I'm afraid it is the case that you can have an outcome | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
which is a fate worse than death. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
So it is quite challenging. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
Is that a recent change or...? | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
He's had increasing shortness of breath over the past six months. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
Six months ago, apparently, he was walking about four miles, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
and now he can only walk about 200 metres. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
He's never smoked, he's got good lung function, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
-with severe... -THUMP | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
..and slightly raised pulmonary artery pressures. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
He's got a very supportive family as well who are all | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
sort of onboard with TAVI. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
He's just very keen to have something done. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
He wants to continue living and have a good quality of life, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
and wants to be less symptomatic, but he's not low-risk. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
At 98, he's not going to be low-risk. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
I'd want a clear statement that he understands that as well. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
The last conversation we had with him, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:01 | |
he will accept risk just to feel better. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
OK? Fantastic. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
So he's all set. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
'We can't be ageist. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
'We are dealing with an ageing population,' | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
and he wants a better quality of life. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
We can't deny a patient that, no matter what their age is. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
Don't rush. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:25 | |
No, you don't need to go quickly, we can just take our time. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
Enjoy the sense of deja vu. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
A week after he was first cancelled, | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
John is back at Hammersmith Hospital. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
You couldn't possibly say anything about quantity of life - | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
how long we'll make him live - but he's a very active 98 | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
and his quality of life has really got worse. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
It's very important that he's up for it, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
his family is up for it and the team is up for it. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
Can you just look up John Rowland's blood results? | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
If any of the team had dissented, then we'd think again. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
Yes? | 0:29:59 | 0:30:00 | |
-Do you want to sit on the chair, Grandad? -Thank you. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
Are you happy to be having the operation? | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
I'm not happy to be having it but what's the alternative? | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
Because I'm getting worse all the time recently. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
I can only walk about... | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
I used to walk miles and now I can only walk a couple of hundred yards | 0:30:25 | 0:30:31 | |
and I'm out of wind. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
I am genuinely terrified that something might happen to him | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
because I can't... | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
honestly can't bear the thought of life without my grandad in it. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
It's just about waiting now, isn't it? | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
I am very, very, very nervous, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
because at the end of the day it's just got to work. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:19 | |
22-year-old Sam is donating his bone marrow in an attempt to cure | 0:31:23 | 0:31:28 | |
his 18-year-old sister Debbie of sickle cell disease. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
So he's consented for mobilisation with G-CSF injections | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
for stem cells and to undergo a bone-marrow harvest | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
under sedation on theatre. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
All right, Sam, do you know why you're here today? | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
-To donate bone marrow to my little sister. -OK. We're good to go. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:49 | |
I'm starting with something, it's not the anaesthesia yet | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
but it's just something to relax you a bit. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:57 | |
What are you thinking about, Sam? | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
I don't know. I'm just scared, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
like, all these machines and... I just want it to go well. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:07 | |
Anything I've done up to this point means nothing | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
compared to when you can literally give a bit of yourself | 0:32:14 | 0:32:19 | |
to save someone else. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:20 | |
Now, THAT'S doing something, that's responsibility. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
OK. Ladies, are you ready? | 0:32:26 | 0:32:27 | |
The harvesting of bone marrow from Sam's hips is being conducted | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
by an expert team at Hammersmith Hospital's centre for haematology. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:40 | |
Ready, steady, move! | 0:32:40 | 0:32:41 | |
When we do the bone-marrow harvest, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
the areas that we need are the posterior iliac crest, | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
which are just the bones that you will feel | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
on the bottom of your back. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:53 | |
That is the exact place where we have to put the needle through | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
and extract the marrow. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:58 | |
The whole process will last less than two hours. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
So with his white-cell count of 58, we have to collect 700ml. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
So we are taking 5ml per syringe. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
At the end of the day it is the gift of hope. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
Just the gift of life. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:36 | |
It's quite similar to blood. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
So you wouldn't be able to distinguish. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
Before Sam's bone marrow can be transplanted into Debbie, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
it must be tested in the haematology lab. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
One of the big requirements of the whole process is that the product | 0:33:54 | 0:33:59 | |
is sterile and free of contamination. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
So before we do any processing with the harvest we take | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
some blood cultures, just to make sure that the product that we've got | 0:34:09 | 0:34:15 | |
from Sam is harvested in a sterile way | 0:34:15 | 0:34:20 | |
and then that there's no microbial contamination. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:25 | |
Hi, Deborah. Are you all set? | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
Uh...yeah. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
15 years after being diagnosed with sickle cell disease, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
Debbie is receiving the new bone marrow that could cure her. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
So these are your cells. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
-Can I take a picture of it? -Yeah, you can. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
-It's all your brother's bone marrow. -Cool. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
It's just like a blood transfusion. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
Debbie's half-match transplant has the risk of rejection, | 0:34:55 | 0:35:01 | |
so the body rejects literally the new tissue. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
-So you're going to have 15 drops in 15 seconds. -OK. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
However, 90% of the children not only survive the transplant | 0:35:08 | 0:35:14 | |
but also are cured of the underlying disease. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
How long will it be? | 0:35:17 | 0:35:18 | |
It will be about three and a half hours. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
But unfortunately, | 0:35:22 | 0:35:23 | |
some complications can never be completely prevented. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
It will be a few weeks before doctors know | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
if the bone-marrow transplant is a success. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
-It's a rather large box. -It is! | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
What's inside, Angela? | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
It's going to be John's new heart valve. | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
John's new heart valve has been shipped to Hammersmith | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
from the United States. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
Comes with lots of important kit to try and help us make it | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
small enough to fit inside the body. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
So that's the actual valve itself. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
I'll check we've got the right size. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:18 | |
26 valve, and it's the correct size we've got there. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
The valve itself is the most expensive part. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
These TAVI valves cost anywhere between £12,000 and £18,000. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
And then there's the time taken for the procedure, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
and so I think if you wrapped up all of that, | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
you probably wouldn't get much change from 30K, I would think. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
But it's cost-effective, because if he came in with heart failure | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
he's likely to stay two weeks on the first admission, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
probably ten days on the second admission, and if he makes it | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
to a third admission that's probably another two weeks. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
You can see that very quickly we've got to beyond 30 days | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
at £1,000 a day, and we are then going to be in credit, | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
so we're not spending £30,000 on a patient because we fancy it. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:03 | |
We are spending £30,000 not only to help him and his symptoms, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
but I would have a very strong argument that that | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
is actually going to save the NHS money in the long run. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
OK, Iqbal the operator, the other operator. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
Dani, anaesthetic nurse. Julie, anaesthetic fellow. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
OK, fantastic, so there's a large team around. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
Very good team. Thank goodness! | 0:37:25 | 0:37:26 | |
Lot of brains, exactly. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:30 | |
Some of them working as well. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
So we've got your name sorted out, the procedure, | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
it's a transfemoral TAVI, right leg is the main access. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
26mm S3 valve, we just checked that all. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
So, John, you're part of the team, | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
so we need to keep you nice and still. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
John will be awake throughout the procedure. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
Ready? | 0:37:55 | 0:37:56 | |
OK, that's that pipe in, | 0:37:58 | 0:37:59 | |
so, John, we're just making a track for our big pipe to go in. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:04 | |
Hopefully it's not too uncomfortable. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
Pair of forceps. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
Basically what we're doing is we're going through the right | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
femoral artery, which will lead us up into the heart. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
Once the big pipe is in, we're pretty much committed to the valve, | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
so that's the time we take the valve. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
It's prepped over on the other table. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
So that's what the valve looks like, that's the three cusps. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
We've squashed the valve into something the size of a Bic biro. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
And then as soon as we're ready to go they'll hand it over to us, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:34 | |
we can put it in. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:35 | |
Can I have the wire? | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
-The clip. -Just take the clip from there. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
So a bit of pushing now, John. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
Bit of pushing. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:46 | |
It's quite a tough push, the valve is a bit like a boa constrictor. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:53 | |
It's expanding as we go. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
All right, John? | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
You're doing very well. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
OK, so everyone quiet, ready. Casing on. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
Balloon up, slowly, slowly, slowly. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
Balloon down. Casing off. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
And the pressure back. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
Let him recover. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:20 | |
So there's the new valve here. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
Looks in a very good position, which is good. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
We're going to put some colour on that. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
Look at that. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:30 | |
Amazing flow, going forwards without turbulence, | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
-no leak coming backwards that we can see. -Well done. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
We've done this more than 300 times so it's like | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
a Formula One pit stop, isn't it? | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
Hello. It's all done! We are all finished! | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
It's all gone very well. All right? | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
Do you want to look to the right? | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
Just a bit slow to respond. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
Very slow. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
John? John? | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
John? | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
Still with us, John? John? John! | 0:40:07 | 0:40:11 | |
Hello, there! Hi, John. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
John, just repeat your name for me, can you do that? | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
Tell me your name. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
John? | 0:40:59 | 0:41:00 | |
Squeeze my fingers. Squeeze my fingers, John. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:05 | |
John, move your toes. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
Can you feel that? | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
All right, John. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
There's been no improvement at all since the TAVI finished, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
so unfortunately it looks... that he's had a neurological event. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
We've done all the tests to try and minimise the risk | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
and we didn't really think his risk of stroke was going to be | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
any higher than any other patient. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
Hi, it's Dr Malik here in the cath lab. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
I need to be put through to 999 London Ambulance | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
to get a critical-care transfer. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
Time is of the essence. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:41 | |
If there's going to be any recovery, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
a complication has to be dealt with quickly. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
They've had a stroke, we need to transfer with critical-care transfer | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
to the HASU at Charing Cross. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
We have a critical transfer | 0:42:09 | 0:42:10 | |
from Hammersmith Hospital to Charing Cross. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
We have a 98-year-old male | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
who had a stroke during a procedure. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:22 | |
Oh, hi, it's Dr Malik here from the Hammersmith Hospital. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
Unfortunately, there has been a complication during the procedure. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
Are you in a position to talk about that? OK. He's still with us. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:35 | |
The problem is we think there's a stroke, so our only hope | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
is that he's in that one third that recover completely and not | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
the one third that do very, very badly, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
and we can't tell really at this very early stage | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
which group he's going to be in. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
All right, sorry the news is not better. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
No problem, all the best now. Bye now. Bye. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
Hmm. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:02 | |
All right, John. We're at a different hospital now. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
John has been brought to the trust's hyper-acute stroke unit | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
at Charing Cross hospital. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
Lift this right arm for me, please. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
John, your right arm. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
I know you're trying. Your right arm. Try your best. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:23 | |
That one, can you lift it up? | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
Just going to extend your right leg to prevent any bleeding. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
Sorry, sir, I'm just trying to check. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:33 | |
You've probably had a stroke, we think. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:34 | |
-Right side? -Right side weakness. -There's the artery. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
So just here, this is the middle cerebral artery, | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
which supplies most of the left side of the brain. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
You can see here there's a bright spot which indicates a thrombus, | 0:43:48 | 0:43:52 | |
a clot inside a blood vessel, | 0:43:52 | 0:43:54 | |
and that would explain his right-side symptoms. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
It's actually a very important part of the brain. | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
So losing that part of the brain would give him | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
a significant neurological deficit. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
What does that part of the brain do? | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
It's certainly his more complex neurological functions, | 0:44:08 | 0:44:11 | |
his power sensation to the right side of his body. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:16 | |
I think this would certainly be a candidate for thrombectomy. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
Just two hours after his heart procedure, | 0:44:22 | 0:44:25 | |
98-year-old John must now undergo an operation on his brain. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:29 | |
We're planning to do a thrombectomy, | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
which is where we go up through the blood vessels in the groin, | 0:44:33 | 0:44:38 | |
up past the heart, through the neck, | 0:44:38 | 0:44:40 | |
into the blood vessels of the brain, | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
and the plan is to try and grab that clot, fish it out | 0:44:42 | 0:44:46 | |
and hopefully restore the flow of blood to that part of John's brain. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:50 | |
I've heard people describe thrombectomy | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
-as a kind of miracle cure to stroke? -Yeah. | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
It is occasions where the stroke is severe. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
At the moment it's only Monday to Friday, nine to five? | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
-Absolutely, yes. -So what happens outside of those hours? | 0:45:05 | 0:45:08 | |
Well, these patients are going to do, as they have been doing | 0:45:08 | 0:45:12 | |
up to now, badly, unfortunately. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
OK, John, you're doing really well. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:20 | |
So we've got a stent deployed where the clot it, | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
to try and grab it, and we've also got | 0:45:24 | 0:45:26 | |
a big suction catheter to try and suck it at the same time. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
The older the patient, the more twisted the vessels, | 0:45:29 | 0:45:31 | |
certainly in someone who's 98. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
It's very difficult to get all the equipment up there. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
John, you're doing really well. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
OK. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:40 | |
If we see the stent, it's a very fine structure. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:44 | |
It's like a cylindrical mesh. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
So that's going into his brain? | 0:45:46 | 0:45:48 | |
So that's going into his brain, into the blood vessel | 0:45:48 | 0:45:50 | |
where the blockage is. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:51 | |
And by pulling it back you're hoping that's going to catch the clot. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:55 | |
Nice and still, you're doing well, sir. | 0:45:57 | 0:46:00 | |
So we're quite deep now into the vessels. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:03 | |
Close to the limits of how far we can go. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:05 | |
Really still, John. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
The clot has migrated from the major trunk of the artery | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
much deeper into one of the branches. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:16 | |
The blockage starts about there. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
However, the clot probably goes beyond that. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
It may not come back, we'll see what it's like. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:25 | |
There's, like, some hard stuff there. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
This may well be clotting hard | 0:46:31 | 0:46:33 | |
and be much harder to pull out. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
Fingers crossed. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:39 | |
JOHN GROANS | 0:46:39 | 0:46:40 | |
You're doing very well, sir. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:42 | |
OK, John. | 0:46:57 | 0:46:59 | |
We've got the clot out. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:01 | |
Hopefully you'll feel better in a few minutes. OK. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:04 | |
We have some clot stuck at the end of that stent. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:08 | |
If you see here at the end of the tubing. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
I don't know if you can zoom in. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
There's a black bit that's just come off there, | 0:47:14 | 0:47:16 | |
a very dark bit. It's obviously blocked a major blood vessel | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
that's supplying the left side of his brain. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
So now you can see that that area of brain | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
before that wasn't filling is now filling. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
It's amazing you can take that out. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:28 | |
Yeah, I mean, when it works, it works very well. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
It often does. It usually does. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
All right, sir, all the best. I'll see you upstairs. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
Hopefully, that makes a significant difference. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
All right? | 0:47:41 | 0:47:42 | |
There's another stroke just coming in. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
-Really? -Yes. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
-So... -Another stroke. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
One in, one out. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
Can I ask you, let's just have a look at your arms, first, Gerry. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
Can I ask you just to squeeze my fingers as hard as you can. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:02 | |
That's it. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:03 | |
It's six days since Gerry had his stroke. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:07 | |
Lovely. Hard as you can, Gerry. Go on. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
That's it. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:10 | |
OK, keep going down, we're going to head straight for the doors. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:18 | |
-To the door? -Yeah, just to the doors and have a touch | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
-and we're going to turn around and go back. -OK. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
All right? | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
What is it like seeing Gerry walk like that | 0:48:26 | 0:48:29 | |
after what's happened to him? | 0:48:29 | 0:48:30 | |
Sorry. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
Gerry is recovering well. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:43 | |
It was last Thursday... | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
But further tests reveal a narrowing of one of the blood vessels | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
that supplies his brain, putting him at risk of another stroke. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:53 | |
So we're having a multi-disciplinary team meeting | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
with the vascular surgeons and also the stroke team | 0:48:56 | 0:48:58 | |
and we're having to make a decision on what we think | 0:48:58 | 0:49:01 | |
the best treatment is for Gerry. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:03 | |
Is there any indication for carotid endarterectomy? | 0:49:03 | 0:49:06 | |
I think we have to look at the benefits. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:08 | |
Certain people can benefit from an operation to clear out the narrowing | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
to prevent further strokes. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:13 | |
I personally don't think he should have his carotid done. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:17 | |
From my viewpoint, I don't think he is clear-cut at all | 0:49:17 | 0:49:21 | |
as to whether we should offer him surgery or not. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
I'd quite like to see the patient and then I'll make a judgment. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
-Yeah. -So I'll go and see him this afternoon. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
We're weighing up the risks because the purpose of doing the operation | 0:49:32 | 0:49:35 | |
is to reduce his stroke risk. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:37 | |
He could possibly die having the operation. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
Doctors will let Gerry decide whether he wants surgery or not. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:44 | |
Hello, sir. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:48 | |
I'm Professor Davies and we've just had our meeting to discuss | 0:49:48 | 0:49:52 | |
whether you should have an operation to reduce the risk of having | 0:49:52 | 0:49:57 | |
a stroke, or whether we should just carry on with various medicines. | 0:49:57 | 0:50:03 | |
I personally think your risks of going on to have an operation | 0:50:03 | 0:50:07 | |
are such that it's a very difficult balance. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
My advice would be that you would be better off having | 0:50:10 | 0:50:13 | |
the appropriate medicines and see how you get on. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:17 | |
Now, do you have any immediate thoughts about what I've said? | 0:50:17 | 0:50:21 | |
OK. We will tell them that that's what is your preference. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:30 | |
So, all in all, I can only say "cheerio" | 0:50:30 | 0:50:33 | |
because there's nothing for me to do | 0:50:33 | 0:50:35 | |
and I will, um, get Dr Halse to come back and see you and go from there. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:39 | |
Nice to see you. OK. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:40 | |
Nice to see you again. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:42 | |
Take care. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:43 | |
I think there are quite a lot of people who have decided, | 0:50:45 | 0:50:48 | |
particularly as they get older, | 0:50:48 | 0:50:50 | |
that they do not want to have a surgical intervention. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:54 | |
It's a known surgical intervention that comes with a given risk | 0:50:54 | 0:50:58 | |
and therefore feel that they would like nature to take its course. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
You've got to sort of weigh up the pros and cons and I think... | 0:51:03 | 0:51:07 | |
There are a lot of risks, regardless in what way you look at it | 0:51:08 | 0:51:12 | |
but I think having an operation, the risk is much bigger. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
I think that, anyway. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:16 | |
I tend to agree with Gerry. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
For once. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:20 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
Have you been sleeping? | 0:51:30 | 0:51:32 | |
-Hmm? -Yeah. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
-OK. -Yeah. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:37 | |
Since her bone-marrow transplant, | 0:51:41 | 0:51:43 | |
Debbie's blood samples have been sent to the lab every day to see if | 0:51:43 | 0:51:46 | |
her brother's cells have taken hold, a process known as engraftment. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:50 | |
Carrie calling from Grand Union ward, we've got some urgent | 0:51:50 | 0:51:53 | |
bloods to be collected, please. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
So far the results have yet to show conclusive evidence it's working. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:04 | |
I'm just logging on so that I can look at the results of her | 0:52:08 | 0:52:12 | |
blood tests today. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:13 | |
The finishing of engraftment is a neutrophil count of more than 0.5 | 0:52:13 | 0:52:17 | |
on three consecutive days. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:18 | |
If today is also over 0.5 | 0:52:20 | 0:52:24 | |
then... | 0:52:24 | 0:52:25 | |
..she's winning. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:28 | |
Hello, Debbie. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:31 | |
Do you know what's been happening with your blood counts? | 0:52:32 | 0:52:35 | |
Do you know what they are today? | 0:52:35 | 0:52:36 | |
No. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:38 | |
I'll give you the news. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
-Yes. -Yeah. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
-It's 1.8 today. -OK. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
Which means it's a third day in a row that it's been more than 0.5, | 0:52:45 | 0:52:50 | |
-which means you have engrafted. -Yeah. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:54 | |
So your new bone marrow is working. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
-Yeah. -Yes, that's right. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
-So... -Congratulations. -Yeah... | 0:53:01 | 0:53:03 | |
So you and your team, Team Debbie, | 0:53:05 | 0:53:06 | |
are doing really well. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
-That's good. -That is good. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:11 | |
It's like a little bit of magic, isn't it? | 0:53:11 | 0:53:13 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
From a patient's point of view, | 0:53:16 | 0:53:17 | |
being able to establish normal reaction is a key moment. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
The transplant has worked | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
and it has been cured. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
Look at that smile. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:30 | |
-I'm excited. -Of course. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:32 | |
-The first step is that you can go out for a little walk. -Yeah. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
OK. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:36 | |
Is it nice doing that bit of the job? | 0:53:38 | 0:53:40 | |
Always the best bit. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:41 | |
Overall, in the UK, care of sickle cell in childhood is | 0:53:43 | 0:53:47 | |
absolutely excellent and it's world-class. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:50 | |
You came here alive and you're going back alive. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:55 | |
-That's God for you. -Yeah. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:57 | |
She's very fond of me and I'm fond of her. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
I don't think we can... | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
..live... | 0:54:04 | 0:54:05 | |
..a day apart. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:07 | |
What does it feel like to be outside? | 0:54:08 | 0:54:10 | |
Good. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:12 | |
I like it. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:14 | |
It's a bit cold. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:17 | |
I was worried and I was considering that perhaps I had, um... | 0:54:26 | 0:54:32 | |
..been a little bit too positive in terms of the way | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
I presented things to him. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:38 | |
That maybe it would have been better if he hadn't had the TAVI. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
-Hello. -Hello. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
How are you? | 0:54:43 | 0:54:45 | |
-How are you? -Getting there. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:49 | |
Good. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:50 | |
How has your day been? | 0:54:52 | 0:54:54 | |
It's been all right. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:56 | |
He's actually doing remarkably well, I have to say. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
He has had some initial problems with his speech | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
and a little bit of his memory and actually all those things | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
seem to be more or less resolved now. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:09 | |
He seems to be back to his usual self. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:12 | |
He is interested in the world again. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
We were having conversations about who his favourite prime minister was | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
and who he thought was the worst prime minister he's ever witnessed in his lifetime. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:21 | |
You're doing really well. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:23 | |
-Thank you. -You're welcome. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
SHE CHUCKLES | 0:55:25 | 0:55:26 | |
When I was training, 65 was the cut-off at older age. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:29 | |
That's a young man these days. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
Yes, it's getting busier and the patients are getting older | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
because they're surviving longer, | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
which is a success story for the UK and the NHS. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
We've got all these amazing, pioneering techniques | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
such as TAVI, | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
but as the population ages, how sustainable is all of this | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
within the current structure of the NHS? | 0:55:49 | 0:55:51 | |
It was so worth it | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
because I get to give her | 0:56:07 | 0:56:09 | |
another fighting chance. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
Which is beyond something I could ever dream of doing. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:16 | |
It's like a major beginning for me and my family. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:22 | |
So...I'm very excited for the future. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
I think we did make the right decision, and his heart, apparently, | 0:56:36 | 0:56:40 | |
is working beautifully. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:41 | |
So...I think he has every chance now that he's had the TAVI of getting | 0:56:41 | 0:56:45 | |
to 100, and if he does, my goodness, the party we'll have at that point. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:49 | |
I can't wait. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:51 | |
So, we've got a bit of a problem now. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:54 | |
Next time... | 0:56:54 | 0:56:56 | |
I've finished here at Charing Cross so I'm coming over. | 0:56:56 | 0:56:58 | |
With more patients than theatres, | 0:56:58 | 0:56:59 | |
surgeons struggle to get their operations started. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:02 | |
We will talk about it when I've calmed down. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:06 | |
-SIGHS -OK, um... | 0:57:06 | 0:57:08 | |
I'll going to have to go and tell him. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:11 | |
There's a drive to get obese patients treated. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:14 | |
So that's ten cancellations on the list tomorrow already. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:16 | |
I think there is a stigmatisation against obesity. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
I completely disagree with the opinion that | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 | |
obesity is self-inflicted. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:24 | |
And the hospital joins forces with others across the country | 0:57:24 | 0:57:27 | |
for a live kidney swap. | 0:57:27 | 0:57:29 | |
Everything has to happen at the same time. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:31 | |
One mistake can screw up the whole thing. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:34 | |
Can we please all be quiet, | 0:57:34 | 0:57:36 | |
just let me think a second. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:37 | |
What choices would you make | 0:57:42 | 0:57:43 | |
when faced with complex health-care decisions? | 0:57:43 | 0:57:46 | |
Visit our interactive pages to find out how you would respond. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:49 | |
Go to... | 0:57:49 | 0:57:52 | |
And follow the links to the Open University. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:56 |