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ALARMS BLARE

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Just move yourselves over to the side for a minute.

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This winter, one of Britain's busiest NHS Trusts opened its doors...

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We have to look after the patients

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whether they come from Buck Palace or the park bench.

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..to show us what's really happening inside our hospitals.

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We've got lots of patients now,

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competing for an unknown number of beds.

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Every week, more than 20,000 people are treated here.

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-The pressure's just gone.

-What?! Has it completely gone?

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And the numbers, as well as our expectations, are rising.

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We just had our worst ten days on record.

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There's nowhere in the hospital to move anybody.

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At some point, somebody will be telling us whether we're allowed to do any work.

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This is a place with some of the best specialists in the world...

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The tumour's out. Job done.

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..where lives are transformed.

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This is saving his life. It has to work.

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But they are operating at a time when the NHS

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has never been under more pressure.

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-Any beds?

-No.

-No beds for anyone?

-No.

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It does feel to me like the elastic's

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a bit nearer to breaking now than it ever was.

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Its very future under scrutiny.

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All right, I think we will go out on red,

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because we're under real pressure in the emergency department.

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We're aware of the problems. Anybody got a solution(?)

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Following the patients from the moment they are admitted...

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Anything I've done up to this point means nothing

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compared to when you can literally give a bit of yourself

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to save someone else.

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..to the moment they leave.

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It's all good news. The cancer's gone.

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You don't need any more treatment.

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-Fantastic!

-Thank you so much.

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Week by week, we reveal the complex decisions the staff must make

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about who to care for next.

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That patient is coming to me to be operated on, and if I don't do it,

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then there's only one inevitable outcome - they're going to die.

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Just been brought in by ambulance. Onset of stroke symptoms.

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Gerry? Just look at me.

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Keep your eyes open nice and wide.

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Look at me, look at me, look at me.

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Gerry? Look at me? Can you see me all right?

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87-year-old Gerry has been brought into Charing Cross Hospital

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after suffering a stroke.

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Gerry, can you see my hand waving?

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A medical emergency that occurs when the blood supply

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to part of the brain is cut off.

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Gerry, open your eyes and look at me.

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Family just suddenly saw him go.

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I got a telephone call from my son to say

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Dad wasn't well, come home quickly.

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Just one look, and I knew what was happening.

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Gerry, same on the right.

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Gerry is being looked after by doctors from the hospital's

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acute stroke unit.

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70% of their patients are over 65.

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The longer you wait to try and restore blood flow

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to a part of the brain that's been affected, the more brain cells,

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or neurons, will die.

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Hi, there. Are you family? Wife, OK.

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-He's never had a stroke as far as you're aware?

-No.

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-He's never had any brain surgery.

-No, no.

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-He's never had a brain haemorrhage before?

-No.

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We need to rush, and the first thing we need to do is to do a brain scan.

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This has all been quite slow. Let's speed up a bit.

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We want to get treatment into Gerry as quickly as possible.

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Rydell, do you want to run ahead and tell CC we're coming.

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Well done, Gerry. You're doing OK.

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We're going to do a quick scan of your head, which is quite important.

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Sorry, guys.

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I've a stroke.

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We called up, they said come up.

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OK, what do you want to do?

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-It's going to take about five minutes.

-That's fine, then.

-Yep.

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All right, let's get this done. One, two, three...

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As a stroke patient, Gerry has priority for the CT scanner,

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so doctors can quickly decide if he's suitable

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for an emergency treatment known as thrombolysis.

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He's late eighties, he's got no neurological history.

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We really need to look at the scan, and then we'll make a decision.

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There are no contraindications,

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so we should just go ahead and give thrombosic therapy.

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I'm going to go downstairs to make sure the family are happy.

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Gerry is a candidate for thrombolysis,

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which is a medical injection that is aimed to break down the blood clot.

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Giving thrombolysis to the wrong patients

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can cause haemorrhage, or bleeding.

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And that haemorrhage can be life-threatening,

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and can even cause death.

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Em, Rydell, can you get the thrombolysis ready?

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I've prepped it already.

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Come and sit down for a while. OK.

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Gerry's just having the last few scans.

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There's no bleeding into the head as far as we can tell, so it looks like

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this is a stroke that's been caused by a blood clot,

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and the best course would be to give him this clot-busting treatment.

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However, it's also important to know it's not a miracle cure, at all.

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And one of its most serious side-effects is bleeding.

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And that bleeding could potentially be life-threatening.

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-You know, we've got to understand that all treatments can go wrong.

-Yes.

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-I trust you.

-Sure.

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-And he's then... As far as I'm concerned, he's in safe hands.

-Sure.

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All right, I'll be with you soon.

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Would you time two minutes for me? And just give her 30-second updates.

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-That's one minute.

-OK, well done.

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It's just such a shock.

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But, he's 87, and we know...

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that it's inevitable that something's going to happen

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at some point.

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Age is a very strong risk factor for strokes,

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so with an ageing population, you'd expect the incidence of stroke to rise.

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Every year that goes by, we're feeling incredibly stretched.

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We don't want standards to drop, and it feel like standards are slipping.

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OK. Well done.

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It will be several hours before Gerry's wife, Margaret,

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knows how well he's responding to treatment.

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Along with Charing Cross, Hammersmith is one of

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the five hospitals that make up Imperial College Healthcare NHS Trust.

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Retired carpenter John requires an operation

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to replace a valve in his heart.

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If you're on the top floor, you might have a nice view.

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John's procedure, known as a TAVI,

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a transcatheter aortic valve importation,

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will be conducted by consultant cardiologist Iqbal Malick.

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A TAVI is a way of deploying a new valve inside the heart

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without cutting the patient too much.

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It's an insane thing to even consider, isn't it?

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A squashed valve goes into an artery while the patient's awake.

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You track back to the heart and pop the new valve into position.

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The patient goes home the next day.

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That's something that would have been

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ludicrous to consider ten years ago.

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-So, you're 98.

-And a half.

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-And a half! You've never had a stroke?

-No.

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-You don't have diabetes?

-No.

-You don't look 98.

-Thank you.

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-Age is just a number, you see.

-Yeah.

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At 98, John will be the oldest patient ever operated on

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by the TAVI team.

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Some of the team is nervous that we'll be seen as lunatics

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doing a 98-year-old.

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I don't think so. I'm going to lead a team.

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I don't think so, I think they can do what they like.

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I bet you when it's their granny they'll be asking for

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a 98-year-old to have their TAVI done.

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Have you done any other 98-year-olds?

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That would be a no, I think. I think we're...

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We're not far off it, I think we've done 95, but, em... Yeah.

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They did, yeah.

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Let's go through the case. So, he's 98.

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We know his creatinine's 200. It hasn't changed.

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Renal team's seen him, don't want to do anything in particular.

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The average age for TAVI is 80,

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so these are patients who can't have open-heart surgery,

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and a number of years ago we couldn't offer patients anything.

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So, now we're in a privileged position of offering TAVI

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to these elderly patients.

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He's got so much more in him. He's still so full of life.

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My grandparents are my favourite people in the entire world, so...

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I'm sure it's the same for everyone.

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How many times have you been to hospital before in your life?

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I had some varicose veins out...

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Em...

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Oh, when I was...

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About 50 years ago, now.

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That was the last time you've been?

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Yeah.

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He's incredible. At the age of 87, he walked up Vesuvius.

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I think he only stopped running races against

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me and my brother around the age of 90,

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and he would try and win, as well,

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this wasn't like he was trying to let us win.

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She says they haven't done anybody my age before.

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But it's not about age, that's what we were saying to you before,

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it's not just about age, it's about how fit you are, otherwise.

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You'll be running out of here.

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HE LAUGHS

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"Three choices.

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"Give up, give in,

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"or give it your all."

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Is now a good time to ask you what you'd like for Christmas?

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I'd like to be alive.

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Mr Rowland? Hi, Dr Malik.

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-Hi.

-Nice to see you.

-And you.

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OK, so...

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-Can you hear me OK?

-Yeah.

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You've been through the risks before.

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-Yeah.

-You know what we're talking about,

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but I will double check that you do understand.

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Just as a short memory test, what is the problem

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that you had with your heart?

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Well, I get out of breath very quickly and couldn't walk very far.

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Yeah, OK.

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-In terms of risk...

-Yeah.

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..if we did 100 cases, OK,

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then about five of them would have a bad problem.

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-One in 20?

-Yeah. And that problem...

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When you say they have a problem, will it mean they would be dead?

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Death, stroke, bleeding, heart attack.

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OK?

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Is that an acceptable level of risk for you?

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-Yeah, well, I haven't much alternative.

-OK.

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What's your date of birth, John?

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March 1918.

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1918, my goodness.

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OK, and can I just get you to sign on the dotted line, John?

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If you're up for having this procedure done.

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It's a miraculous treatment for the older patients that we

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couldn't treat before, that we are now treating.

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Every cardiologist would hope to have one really important

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step that has suddenly changed in their lifetime that they can

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experience and I think for me, at the age of 50 now, it's TAVI.

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Demand for heart valve procedure TAVI

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has tripled at Hammersmith in the last three years.

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What, the old valve, the other valve?

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John is the second of these patients on Iqbal's list today.

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The first is a patient in their 80s.

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Is that pressure...

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-Who are you calling?

-Rex.

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-It's bleeding too much, so he thinks he might want to open.

-OK.

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OK, so this is an unexpected complication in the first procedure.

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MONITOR BEEPS

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The first case hasn't gone according to plan,

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because there's been some bleeding internally.

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TAVIs, you can't quite predict what's going on.

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Normally, they are very straightforward and this is

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the first for the year where we've had a major complication.

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It's now likely that the patient will need

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a post-operative intensive-care bed.

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But that means one won't be available for 98-year-old John,

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if his operation runs into trouble.

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I'm trying to find another bed.

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Sometimes, if they've got an incapacity here,

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we can use one of their intensive-care beds

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as a backup fallback. For the next case.

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-Hello, are you the boss?

-I am today, yes.

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You may have heard, we had a bit of an emergency

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-in the first procedure today.

-Yes.

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We have therefore lost our ICU bed.

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-But we have a second TAVI.

-Yeah.

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We need a fallback critical-care bed, because he's...he's 98.

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-Yeah.

-Otherwise quite well, no previous surgeries.

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We are full at the moment.

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16 inpatients and 16 bed spaces.

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Two of the patients were going to go and I think one

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was a cardiology patient.

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So, the deal is, we have to take one back?

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-Yeah, there will be a degree of swapping, but...

-OK.

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PHONE RINGS

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We are in some difficulty in there.

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The bleeding has restarted and therefore,

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we can't really think about other cases.

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We have a senior surgeon operating, but I think the rest of the day in

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this particular lab is not going to be working out.

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I think we are going to have to cancel the TAVI.

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This is not just realistic. We're not even ready now

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and by the time he gets on, it will be four.

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By the time we finish it, six. If something goes wrong at six,

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we are much less coverage, so... I think it's safety first.

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HE SIGHS

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Operating out of hours on elective cases that are high-risk

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is not clever. I think if it all went well, I'd be finished by five.

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You know, I think that's fine.

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But actually, if it didn't go so well,

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then the complication is being managed out of hours, with,

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you know, less team around.

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'I think it's unfortunate.'

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So, old Father Time has defeated us.

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-My luck.

-Exactly, just your luck.

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But the thing that has destabilised us is a very rare eventuality,

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so, sorry about today. OK?

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I'm going to get them to give you a cup of tea,

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give you some food, because we've kept you starved all day.

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-OK?

-Thank you very much.

-OK.

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OK, so I'm just coming down now.

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Yeah.

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Something he wasn't expecting and we were quite certain that it

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was going to happen today.

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And...

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But what can you do?

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We know that there is a risk to doing the procedure,

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but we were told by the cardiologist,

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without this operation, he has a 50% chance of sudden death.

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John will have to come back next week

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for another attempt at the procedure.

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Boring!

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I like shows like Casualty, Holby City, House.

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Grey's Anatomy. I like stuff like that.

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Because I'd like to be a children's nurse,

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and help...people like me.

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-How are you doing?

-OK.

-Good.

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The Trust's paediatric centre offers pioneering treatments

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for patients up to 19 years old.

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Just lift that up for me a little bit.

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Debbie was diagnosed with sickle cell disease when she was three.

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'Sickle cell, it's like a blood disorder.

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'It causes pain in the joints, and your arms, and your knees

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'and your legs, but it can affect any part of the body, really.'

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-Can I pop this here?

-Yeah.

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'But more severely, your brain.

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'It can cause strokes and neurological problems,

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'and that's what happened to me.'

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That's when they considered that I need a transplant,

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so that I don't get any more damage to my brain.

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-Thank you.

-NURSE LAUGHS

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The only cure for sickle cell disease is a bone marrow transplant,

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which 18-year-old Debbie has been waiting for since 2009.

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Yeah.

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A standard bone marrow transplant requires

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the donor's tissue type to be a 100% match.

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Doctors have been unable to find Debbie a suitable donor.

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But a new treatment is offering her a lifeline.

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-Sally, how is Deborah today?

-Not feeling very well.

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Would you mind giving me her chart, so I can have a look at it.

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In normal circumstances,

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were you to do a 50% mismatched transplant,

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that would almost certainly

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lead to the patient dying,

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from the new bone marrow attacking the body of the patient.

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But we now have a method which will enable this new bone marrow,

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which is only 50% match, not to be rejected by her body.

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-AUTOMATED VOICE:

-Doors opening.

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This new method allows Debbie's 22-year-old brother Sam

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to be her donor, even though his tissue type

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is only a 50% match with hers.

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I'm here to see Debbie.

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Deborah. Erm, 13.

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What way, that way or...?

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'Bless her, because the illness,

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'she hasn't had that 18-year-old life at all,'

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so if I can give her a chance, a fighting chance,

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to obviously never have to be in that condition again,

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or go through all the crises she's been going through again...

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Because she's got SO much to catch up on and so much more to do.

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'And I remember when we used to go to the same primary school,

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'me always looking out for her, going into the younger playground

0:18:180:18:21

'to see if she's all right.

0:18:210:18:23

'So, luckily enough, I was a close match.'

0:18:230:18:26

Debbie.

0:18:260:18:27

-Aww.

-Have you been worrying about things?

0:18:290:18:32

-No.

-Because all that worry is for us, OK?

0:18:320:18:35

She's worried, OK.

0:18:380:18:39

Yeah.

0:18:410:18:42

ALL LAUGH

0:18:420:18:44

At the moment,

0:18:440:18:45

this type of transplant for sickle cell disease is only funded

0:18:450:18:49

for children and young adolescents

0:18:490:18:52

up to the age of 19.

0:18:520:18:53

And then you have some more of the mesna,

0:18:530:18:55

which is a kidney protection, running afterwards.

0:18:550:18:58

-INTERVIEWER:

-Is there a risk of death

0:18:580:19:00

with this type of bone marrow transplant?

0:19:000:19:01

Yes, there is a risk of death,

0:19:010:19:03

and the risk does goes up with the degree of mismatch of the donor.

0:19:030:19:10

However, as current situation stands,

0:19:110:19:13

this is Debbie's last chance to get her bone marrow transplant.

0:19:130:19:17

They said it will come with loads of risks,

0:19:190:19:21

but I just want to have it, so that I can continue with my life.

0:19:210:19:26

Gerry? Hello. How are you feeling now?

0:19:360:19:39

HE ATTEMPTS TO SPEAK

0:19:390:19:41

It's two-and-a-half hours since stroke patient Gerry

0:19:410:19:44

was brought into A&E.

0:19:440:19:46

..better view. Gerry, what year is it now?

0:19:460:19:48

Oh...

0:19:480:19:50

INDISTINCT

0:19:500:19:52

-Don't worry about that, that's fine.

-I don't know.

0:19:550:19:58

Touch my finger.

0:20:000:20:02

See my finger? Gerry, can you see my finger there? Touch your nose.

0:20:050:20:09

Perfect.

0:20:110:20:13

How old are you?

0:20:160:20:17

Do you know what day it is today?

0:20:200:20:22

Good.

0:20:220:20:24

Lift up your leg.

0:20:240:20:25

OK, five seconds. One, two, three..

0:20:270:20:30

They have saved us here.

0:20:300:20:32

They've got Gerry moving again, they've got him talking again.

0:20:320:20:36

The change is remarkable in such a short space of time.

0:20:360:20:40

How are you feeling, Gerry?

0:20:400:20:42

Oh, that's good.

0:20:420:20:44

Yeah, it's VERY good.

0:20:440:20:46

I think you're going to do fine,

0:20:470:20:49

but we need to keep you in hospital for a few days.

0:20:490:20:53

OK.

0:20:530:20:55

-We'll pop in a bit later on, OK?

-OK.

-Nice to see you.

0:20:550:20:57

-Thank you.

-All the best.

-Thank you very much.

0:20:570:21:00

Gerry will recover at Charing Cross Hospital's Hyper-Acute Stroke Unit,

0:21:000:21:04

or HASU, one of eight specialist stroke centres in London.

0:21:040:21:08

The thing that everyone worries about

0:21:080:21:10

with someone who's had a stroke is,

0:21:100:21:12

they're at risk of having another stroke.

0:21:120:21:14

So he's not out of the woods at all, we're going to have to

0:21:140:21:17

closely monitor him, he's got very powerful medication on the board.

0:21:170:21:20

Things look promising, let's keep our fingers crossed.

0:21:200:21:24

SIREN WAILS

0:21:270:21:29

I'm going to put it over the top,

0:21:330:21:34

because it will be finished before that, probably.

0:21:340:21:37

18-year-old Debbie is preparing for her bone marrow transplant

0:21:380:21:42

by receiving chemotherapy to deplete her immune system.

0:21:420:21:46

Chemotherapy just makes you feel completely lifeless.

0:21:460:21:48

You don't want to eat, it makes you feel so sick.

0:21:480:21:51

You've got no energy whatsoever

0:21:510:21:53

and you just can't do anything.

0:21:530:21:55

Ohh.

0:22:050:22:06

Hey, Dad.

0:22:070:22:09

How is she?

0:22:110:22:13

Ohh. It's horrible seeing her like this, though.

0:22:130:22:17

I know. I'm here.

0:22:180:22:21

How are you feeling?

0:22:220:22:23

I don't feel good.

0:22:250:22:27

Aww. I didn't realise it was to this extent.

0:22:280:22:33

-Yeah.

-Debbie.

0:22:330:22:36

HE BLOWS HER A KISS

0:22:360:22:38

Don't worry.

0:22:380:22:39

I'll see you soon, yeah?

0:22:440:22:45

That was, er, very difficult to see.

0:22:490:22:52

Never seen her like that, ever.

0:22:520:22:56

Ever. And I've never really heard her say she feels not good.

0:22:560:22:59

Even if she don't feel good,

0:22:590:23:01

she'll say she feels all right, know what I mean?

0:23:010:23:03

She was always very optimistic, but obviously the chemo

0:23:030:23:06

has rendered her into that sort of state, hasn't it? So...

0:23:060:23:11

It's very hard. Very hard to see.

0:23:110:23:14

Debbie is travelling to Hammersmith Hospital,

0:23:230:23:26

where she will receive a high dose of radiation.

0:23:260:23:29

Are they on their way? Right, great. Thanks, bye.

0:23:290:23:34

It's the last stage of treatment before her transplant.

0:23:340:23:36

Hi, Deborah, my name's Faye, I'm one of the radiographers

0:23:360:23:39

doing your treatment today.

0:23:390:23:41

We're going to be putting some little measuring devices

0:23:410:23:44

onto your skin.

0:23:440:23:45

Just do a small little dose first, and then once we're happy,

0:23:450:23:48

we'll then do the main part of the treatment.

0:23:480:23:50

You OK? Do you want some water?

0:23:500:23:53

Headache.

0:23:530:23:55

Would you like to have the lights down?

0:23:580:23:59

-LEENA:

-The whole thing is a bit like a Trojan horse.

0:23:590:24:03

We're trying to get past the guards.

0:24:040:24:06

See you in a bit, Deborah.

0:24:060:24:08

If we don't do it, then there will be a lot of reaction between

0:24:090:24:12

the two immune systems, one of Debbie's

0:24:120:24:14

and one of the new bone marrow.

0:24:140:24:16

We've got a gantry of 270, colls of zero,

0:24:160:24:21

and the Y, 25 on the Xs.

0:24:210:24:22

We've checked we're all covered.

0:24:220:24:24

-Yep.

-They're ready.

0:24:240:24:26

We're good to go here.

0:24:270:24:29

CLICKING

0:24:330:24:34

She doesn't seem very well at all, has she been like this today or...?

0:24:380:24:42

About a week now.

0:24:420:24:43

She's very nervous about today.

0:24:570:24:59

It's the not knowing, isn't it?

0:24:590:25:01

Right lateral.

0:25:010:25:02

All finished.

0:25:130:25:14

Deborah, how are you?

0:25:380:25:40

-How are you, darling?

-WEAKLY:

-Not well.

0:25:420:25:44

You have pain in your eyes when you look at me?

0:25:460:25:49

Debbie's immune system is now so depleted,

0:25:510:25:54

even a mild virus could kill her.

0:25:540:25:57

Would you mind if I quickly touch your tummy? Would that be OK?

0:25:570:26:01

You can see that though it is fantastic that we are now

0:26:010:26:04

able to carry a transplant,

0:26:040:26:06

the truth is that the treatment itself is very tough.

0:26:060:26:09

Sorry, I have a little bit of cold hands.

0:26:110:26:14

The doses we use in transplantation are far higher than we would

0:26:140:26:17

use usually in the treatment of cancer.

0:26:170:26:19

So the number of side-effects these children suffer,

0:26:190:26:22

and these young people suffer, is substantial.

0:26:220:26:26

OK. It's a difficult time. We'll leave you in peace.

0:26:260:26:30

-FATHER:

-All right, thank you.

0:26:300:26:31

SIREN WAILS

0:26:380:26:40

So we are going to attend the TAVI multi-disciplinary team meeting.

0:26:400:26:43

Which is a meeting we have every week, essentially,

0:26:430:26:46

to discuss all cases that we are considering for the TAVI procedure.

0:26:460:26:51

For a second time, consultant cardiologist Ghada Mikhail

0:26:530:26:56

is preparing for 98-year-old John's heart valve procedure.

0:26:560:27:01

So it's the multi-disciplinary, it's attended by cardiologists,

0:27:010:27:04

surgeons, echo imaging doctors, CT doctors - all the TAVI team.

0:27:040:27:08

OK, good morning. So, the first case is Mr John Rowland, 98.

0:27:100:27:15

This case was the case we were supposed to do last week

0:27:150:27:17

and it got cancelled, so we're just rediscussing him cos he's booked...

0:27:170:27:21

-Can I just answer first?

-Yes.

-So, 98?

-98.

0:27:210:27:23

You need to persuade me that there is no frailty.

0:27:230:27:26

Can we just re-review the echo?

0:27:260:27:28

Do you want to take us through the echo?

0:27:280:27:30

In many ways, we are - and the NHS is - a victim of its own success.

0:27:320:27:36

So we have so many elderly patients now,

0:27:360:27:40

and we are getting into discussions about life expectancy

0:27:400:27:45

when patients are already in their nineties.

0:27:450:27:48

But the PA pressure was up as well, with a good ventricle,

0:27:480:27:51

how do you explain that?

0:27:510:27:52

Overall LV function looks preserved.

0:27:520:27:54

'With the TAVI MDT, it's particularly difficult,

0:27:540:27:56

'because this is a high-risk group of patients. Cost does come into it.

0:27:560:28:00

'I have a responsibility to manage resources effectively.'

0:28:000:28:03

But actually, we try and pick the winners on clinical grounds,

0:28:030:28:06

and we have to decide,

0:28:060:28:09

does he have enough reserve to come through the procedure?

0:28:090:28:13

Because I'm afraid it is the case that you can have an outcome

0:28:130:28:17

which is a fate worse than death.

0:28:170:28:19

So it is quite challenging.

0:28:190:28:21

Is that a recent change or...?

0:28:210:28:23

He's had increasing shortness of breath over the past six months.

0:28:230:28:26

Six months ago, apparently, he was walking about four miles,

0:28:260:28:29

and now he can only walk about 200 metres.

0:28:290:28:31

He's never smoked, he's got good lung function,

0:28:310:28:34

-with severe...

-THUMP

0:28:340:28:36

..and slightly raised pulmonary artery pressures.

0:28:360:28:39

He's got a very supportive family as well who are all

0:28:390:28:42

sort of onboard with TAVI.

0:28:420:28:44

He's just very keen to have something done.

0:28:440:28:47

He wants to continue living and have a good quality of life,

0:28:470:28:51

and wants to be less symptomatic, but he's not low-risk.

0:28:510:28:54

At 98, he's not going to be low-risk.

0:28:540:28:57

I'd want a clear statement that he understands that as well.

0:28:570:29:00

The last conversation we had with him,

0:29:000:29:01

he will accept risk just to feel better.

0:29:010:29:04

OK? Fantastic.

0:29:050:29:08

So he's all set.

0:29:080:29:10

'We can't be ageist.

0:29:100:29:12

'We are dealing with an ageing population,'

0:29:120:29:14

and he wants a better quality of life.

0:29:140:29:17

We can't deny a patient that, no matter what their age is.

0:29:170:29:20

Don't rush.

0:29:240:29:25

No, you don't need to go quickly, we can just take our time.

0:29:260:29:29

Enjoy the sense of deja vu.

0:29:290:29:31

A week after he was first cancelled,

0:29:310:29:33

John is back at Hammersmith Hospital.

0:29:330:29:36

You couldn't possibly say anything about quantity of life -

0:29:360:29:40

how long we'll make him live - but he's a very active 98

0:29:400:29:43

and his quality of life has really got worse.

0:29:430:29:46

It's very important that he's up for it,

0:29:460:29:48

his family is up for it and the team is up for it.

0:29:480:29:52

Can you just look up John Rowland's blood results?

0:29:530:29:56

If any of the team had dissented, then we'd think again.

0:29:560:29:59

Yes?

0:29:590:30:00

-Do you want to sit on the chair, Grandad?

-Thank you.

0:30:040:30:07

Are you happy to be having the operation?

0:30:080:30:11

I'm not happy to be having it but what's the alternative?

0:30:110:30:15

Because I'm getting worse all the time recently.

0:30:180:30:21

I can only walk about...

0:30:230:30:25

I used to walk miles and now I can only walk a couple of hundred yards

0:30:250:30:31

and I'm out of wind.

0:30:310:30:34

I am genuinely terrified that something might happen to him

0:30:340:30:38

because I can't...

0:30:380:30:40

honestly can't bear the thought of life without my grandad in it.

0:30:400:30:43

It's just about waiting now, isn't it?

0:30:520:30:54

I am very, very, very nervous,

0:31:110:31:13

because at the end of the day it's just got to work.

0:31:130:31:19

22-year-old Sam is donating his bone marrow in an attempt to cure

0:31:230:31:28

his 18-year-old sister Debbie of sickle cell disease.

0:31:280:31:31

So he's consented for mobilisation with G-CSF injections

0:31:310:31:35

for stem cells and to undergo a bone-marrow harvest

0:31:350:31:38

under sedation on theatre.

0:31:380:31:41

All right, Sam, do you know why you're here today?

0:31:410:31:43

-To donate bone marrow to my little sister.

-OK. We're good to go.

0:31:440:31:49

I'm starting with something, it's not the anaesthesia yet

0:31:490:31:53

but it's just something to relax you a bit.

0:31:530:31:57

What are you thinking about, Sam?

0:31:580:32:00

I don't know. I'm just scared,

0:32:000:32:02

like, all these machines and... I just want it to go well.

0:32:020:32:07

Anything I've done up to this point means nothing

0:32:100:32:14

compared to when you can literally give a bit of yourself

0:32:140:32:19

to save someone else.

0:32:190:32:20

Now, THAT'S doing something, that's responsibility.

0:32:200:32:24

OK. Ladies, are you ready?

0:32:260:32:27

The harvesting of bone marrow from Sam's hips is being conducted

0:32:310:32:35

by an expert team at Hammersmith Hospital's centre for haematology.

0:32:350:32:40

Ready, steady, move!

0:32:400:32:41

When we do the bone-marrow harvest,

0:32:440:32:46

the areas that we need are the posterior iliac crest,

0:32:460:32:49

which are just the bones that you will feel

0:32:490:32:52

on the bottom of your back.

0:32:520:32:53

That is the exact place where we have to put the needle through

0:32:530:32:57

and extract the marrow.

0:32:570:32:58

The whole process will last less than two hours.

0:33:070:33:10

So with his white-cell count of 58, we have to collect 700ml.

0:33:130:33:17

So we are taking 5ml per syringe.

0:33:210:33:24

At the end of the day it is the gift of hope.

0:33:310:33:35

Just the gift of life.

0:33:350:33:36

It's quite similar to blood.

0:33:380:33:40

So you wouldn't be able to distinguish.

0:33:400:33:43

Before Sam's bone marrow can be transplanted into Debbie,

0:33:470:33:51

it must be tested in the haematology lab.

0:33:510:33:53

One of the big requirements of the whole process is that the product

0:33:540:33:59

is sterile and free of contamination.

0:33:590:34:01

So before we do any processing with the harvest we take

0:34:060:34:09

some blood cultures, just to make sure that the product that we've got

0:34:090:34:15

from Sam is harvested in a sterile way

0:34:150:34:20

and then that there's no microbial contamination.

0:34:200:34:25

Hi, Deborah. Are you all set?

0:34:300:34:33

Uh...yeah.

0:34:330:34:35

15 years after being diagnosed with sickle cell disease,

0:34:360:34:39

Debbie is receiving the new bone marrow that could cure her.

0:34:390:34:43

So these are your cells.

0:34:430:34:45

-Can I take a picture of it?

-Yeah, you can.

0:34:470:34:49

-It's all your brother's bone marrow.

-Cool.

0:34:490:34:53

It's just like a blood transfusion.

0:34:530:34:55

Debbie's half-match transplant has the risk of rejection,

0:34:550:35:01

so the body rejects literally the new tissue.

0:35:010:35:04

-So you're going to have 15 drops in 15 seconds.

-OK.

0:35:040:35:08

However, 90% of the children not only survive the transplant

0:35:080:35:14

but also are cured of the underlying disease.

0:35:140:35:17

How long will it be?

0:35:170:35:18

It will be about three and a half hours.

0:35:180:35:22

But unfortunately,

0:35:220:35:23

some complications can never be completely prevented.

0:35:230:35:27

It will be a few weeks before doctors know

0:35:270:35:29

if the bone-marrow transplant is a success.

0:35:290:35:32

-It's a rather large box.

-It is!

0:35:510:35:54

What's inside, Angela?

0:35:540:35:57

It's going to be John's new heart valve.

0:35:570:35:59

John's new heart valve has been shipped to Hammersmith

0:36:010:36:04

from the United States.

0:36:040:36:07

Comes with lots of important kit to try and help us make it

0:36:080:36:12

small enough to fit inside the body.

0:36:120:36:15

So that's the actual valve itself.

0:36:150:36:17

I'll check we've got the right size.

0:36:170:36:18

26 valve, and it's the correct size we've got there.

0:36:180:36:21

The valve itself is the most expensive part.

0:36:230:36:25

These TAVI valves cost anywhere between £12,000 and £18,000.

0:36:250:36:29

And then there's the time taken for the procedure,

0:36:290:36:32

and so I think if you wrapped up all of that,

0:36:320:36:35

you probably wouldn't get much change from 30K, I would think.

0:36:350:36:37

But it's cost-effective, because if he came in with heart failure

0:36:390:36:42

he's likely to stay two weeks on the first admission,

0:36:420:36:45

probably ten days on the second admission, and if he makes it

0:36:450:36:47

to a third admission that's probably another two weeks.

0:36:470:36:50

You can see that very quickly we've got to beyond 30 days

0:36:500:36:53

at £1,000 a day, and we are then going to be in credit,

0:36:530:36:57

so we're not spending £30,000 on a patient because we fancy it.

0:36:570:37:03

We are spending £30,000 not only to help him and his symptoms,

0:37:030:37:07

but I would have a very strong argument that that

0:37:070:37:11

is actually going to save the NHS money in the long run.

0:37:110:37:13

OK, Iqbal the operator, the other operator.

0:37:130:37:17

Dani, anaesthetic nurse. Julie, anaesthetic fellow.

0:37:170:37:20

OK, fantastic, so there's a large team around.

0:37:200:37:22

Very good team. Thank goodness!

0:37:250:37:26

Lot of brains, exactly.

0:37:290:37:30

Some of them working as well.

0:37:300:37:32

So we've got your name sorted out, the procedure,

0:37:320:37:35

it's a transfemoral TAVI, right leg is the main access.

0:37:350:37:37

26mm S3 valve, we just checked that all.

0:37:370:37:40

So, John, you're part of the team,

0:37:400:37:42

so we need to keep you nice and still.

0:37:420:37:45

John will be awake throughout the procedure.

0:37:510:37:54

Ready?

0:37:550:37:56

OK, that's that pipe in,

0:37:580:37:59

so, John, we're just making a track for our big pipe to go in.

0:37:590:38:04

Hopefully it's not too uncomfortable.

0:38:040:38:06

Pair of forceps.

0:38:060:38:08

Basically what we're doing is we're going through the right

0:38:080:38:11

femoral artery, which will lead us up into the heart.

0:38:110:38:15

Once the big pipe is in, we're pretty much committed to the valve,

0:38:150:38:18

so that's the time we take the valve.

0:38:180:38:20

It's prepped over on the other table.

0:38:200:38:22

So that's what the valve looks like, that's the three cusps.

0:38:220:38:25

We've squashed the valve into something the size of a Bic biro.

0:38:250:38:29

And then as soon as we're ready to go they'll hand it over to us,

0:38:300:38:34

we can put it in.

0:38:340:38:35

Can I have the wire?

0:38:370:38:39

-The clip.

-Just take the clip from there.

0:38:390:38:43

So a bit of pushing now, John.

0:38:430:38:45

Bit of pushing.

0:38:450:38:46

It's quite a tough push, the valve is a bit like a boa constrictor.

0:38:480:38:53

It's expanding as we go.

0:38:530:38:56

All right, John?

0:38:560:38:58

You're doing very well.

0:38:580:39:01

OK, so everyone quiet, ready. Casing on.

0:39:010:39:05

Balloon up, slowly, slowly, slowly.

0:39:080:39:12

Balloon down. Casing off.

0:39:120:39:15

And the pressure back.

0:39:170:39:19

Let him recover.

0:39:190:39:20

So there's the new valve here.

0:39:200:39:22

Looks in a very good position, which is good.

0:39:220:39:25

We're going to put some colour on that.

0:39:250:39:29

Look at that.

0:39:290:39:30

Amazing flow, going forwards without turbulence,

0:39:300:39:33

-no leak coming backwards that we can see.

-Well done.

0:39:330:39:37

We've done this more than 300 times so it's like

0:39:370:39:40

a Formula One pit stop, isn't it?

0:39:400:39:44

Hello. It's all done! We are all finished!

0:39:440:39:47

It's all gone very well. All right?

0:39:470:39:51

Do you want to look to the right?

0:39:540:39:57

Just a bit slow to respond.

0:39:570:39:59

Very slow.

0:39:590:40:01

John? John?

0:40:030:40:05

John?

0:40:050:40:07

Still with us, John? John? John!

0:40:070:40:11

Hello, there! Hi, John.

0:40:110:40:14

John, just repeat your name for me, can you do that?

0:40:520:40:55

Tell me your name.

0:40:550:40:59

John?

0:40:590:41:00

Squeeze my fingers. Squeeze my fingers, John.

0:41:000:41:05

John, move your toes.

0:41:050:41:07

Can you feel that?

0:41:100:41:12

All right, John.

0:41:120:41:14

There's been no improvement at all since the TAVI finished,

0:41:140:41:18

so unfortunately it looks... that he's had a neurological event.

0:41:180:41:22

We've done all the tests to try and minimise the risk

0:41:240:41:27

and we didn't really think his risk of stroke was going to be

0:41:270:41:31

any higher than any other patient.

0:41:310:41:33

Hi, it's Dr Malik here in the cath lab.

0:41:330:41:35

I need to be put through to 999 London Ambulance

0:41:350:41:38

to get a critical-care transfer.

0:41:380:41:40

Time is of the essence.

0:41:400:41:41

If there's going to be any recovery,

0:41:410:41:43

a complication has to be dealt with quickly.

0:41:430:41:45

They've had a stroke, we need to transfer with critical-care transfer

0:41:450:41:49

to the HASU at Charing Cross.

0:41:490:41:51

We have a critical transfer

0:42:090:42:10

from Hammersmith Hospital to Charing Cross.

0:42:100:42:13

We have a 98-year-old male

0:42:130:42:17

who had a stroke during a procedure.

0:42:170:42:22

Oh, hi, it's Dr Malik here from the Hammersmith Hospital.

0:42:220:42:26

Unfortunately, there has been a complication during the procedure.

0:42:260:42:30

Are you in a position to talk about that? OK. He's still with us.

0:42:300:42:35

The problem is we think there's a stroke, so our only hope

0:42:350:42:39

is that he's in that one third that recover completely and not

0:42:390:42:43

the one third that do very, very badly,

0:42:430:42:45

and we can't tell really at this very early stage

0:42:450:42:48

which group he's going to be in.

0:42:480:42:50

All right, sorry the news is not better.

0:42:500:42:52

No problem, all the best now. Bye now. Bye.

0:42:550:42:58

Hmm.

0:43:010:43:02

All right, John. We're at a different hospital now.

0:43:050:43:08

John has been brought to the trust's hyper-acute stroke unit

0:43:080:43:11

at Charing Cross hospital.

0:43:110:43:13

Lift this right arm for me, please.

0:43:160:43:18

John, your right arm.

0:43:180:43:20

I know you're trying. Your right arm. Try your best.

0:43:200:43:23

That one, can you lift it up?

0:43:230:43:26

Just going to extend your right leg to prevent any bleeding.

0:43:260:43:29

Sorry, sir, I'm just trying to check.

0:43:290:43:33

You've probably had a stroke, we think.

0:43:330:43:34

-Right side?

-Right side weakness.

-There's the artery.

0:43:380:43:42

So just here, this is the middle cerebral artery,

0:43:420:43:45

which supplies most of the left side of the brain.

0:43:450:43:48

You can see here there's a bright spot which indicates a thrombus,

0:43:480:43:52

a clot inside a blood vessel,

0:43:520:43:54

and that would explain his right-side symptoms.

0:43:540:43:57

It's actually a very important part of the brain.

0:43:570:44:00

So losing that part of the brain would give him

0:44:000:44:02

a significant neurological deficit.

0:44:020:44:05

What does that part of the brain do?

0:44:050:44:08

It's certainly his more complex neurological functions,

0:44:080:44:11

his power sensation to the right side of his body.

0:44:110:44:16

I think this would certainly be a candidate for thrombectomy.

0:44:180:44:21

Just two hours after his heart procedure,

0:44:220:44:25

98-year-old John must now undergo an operation on his brain.

0:44:250:44:29

We're planning to do a thrombectomy,

0:44:310:44:33

which is where we go up through the blood vessels in the groin,

0:44:330:44:38

up past the heart, through the neck,

0:44:380:44:40

into the blood vessels of the brain,

0:44:400:44:42

and the plan is to try and grab that clot, fish it out

0:44:420:44:46

and hopefully restore the flow of blood to that part of John's brain.

0:44:460:44:50

I've heard people describe thrombectomy

0:44:550:44:57

-as a kind of miracle cure to stroke?

-Yeah.

0:44:570:44:59

It is occasions where the stroke is severe.

0:44:590:45:02

At the moment it's only Monday to Friday, nine to five?

0:45:020:45:05

-Absolutely, yes.

-So what happens outside of those hours?

0:45:050:45:08

Well, these patients are going to do, as they have been doing

0:45:080:45:12

up to now, badly, unfortunately.

0:45:120:45:15

OK, John, you're doing really well.

0:45:180:45:20

So we've got a stent deployed where the clot it,

0:45:210:45:24

to try and grab it, and we've also got

0:45:240:45:26

a big suction catheter to try and suck it at the same time.

0:45:260:45:29

The older the patient, the more twisted the vessels,

0:45:290:45:31

certainly in someone who's 98.

0:45:310:45:33

It's very difficult to get all the equipment up there.

0:45:330:45:36

John, you're doing really well.

0:45:370:45:39

OK.

0:45:390:45:40

If we see the stent, it's a very fine structure.

0:45:400:45:44

It's like a cylindrical mesh.

0:45:440:45:46

So that's going into his brain?

0:45:460:45:48

So that's going into his brain, into the blood vessel

0:45:480:45:50

where the blockage is.

0:45:500:45:51

And by pulling it back you're hoping that's going to catch the clot.

0:45:510:45:55

Nice and still, you're doing well, sir.

0:45:570:46:00

So we're quite deep now into the vessels.

0:46:010:46:03

Close to the limits of how far we can go.

0:46:030:46:05

Really still, John.

0:46:070:46:09

The clot has migrated from the major trunk of the artery

0:46:090:46:12

much deeper into one of the branches.

0:46:120:46:16

The blockage starts about there.

0:46:160:46:19

However, the clot probably goes beyond that.

0:46:190:46:22

It may not come back, we'll see what it's like.

0:46:220:46:25

There's, like, some hard stuff there.

0:46:290:46:31

This may well be clotting hard

0:46:310:46:33

and be much harder to pull out.

0:46:330:46:37

Fingers crossed.

0:46:370:46:39

JOHN GROANS

0:46:390:46:40

You're doing very well, sir.

0:46:400:46:42

OK, John.

0:46:570:46:59

We've got the clot out.

0:46:590:47:01

Hopefully you'll feel better in a few minutes. OK.

0:47:010:47:04

We have some clot stuck at the end of that stent.

0:47:040:47:08

If you see here at the end of the tubing.

0:47:080:47:12

I don't know if you can zoom in.

0:47:120:47:14

There's a black bit that's just come off there,

0:47:140:47:16

a very dark bit. It's obviously blocked a major blood vessel

0:47:160:47:19

that's supplying the left side of his brain.

0:47:190:47:21

So now you can see that that area of brain

0:47:210:47:24

before that wasn't filling is now filling.

0:47:240:47:26

It's amazing you can take that out.

0:47:260:47:28

Yeah, I mean, when it works, it works very well.

0:47:280:47:30

It often does. It usually does.

0:47:300:47:33

All right, sir, all the best. I'll see you upstairs.

0:47:330:47:36

Hopefully, that makes a significant difference.

0:47:380:47:41

All right?

0:47:410:47:42

There's another stroke just coming in.

0:47:420:47:45

-Really?

-Yes.

0:47:450:47:47

-So...

-Another stroke.

0:47:470:47:49

One in, one out.

0:47:500:47:52

Can I ask you, let's just have a look at your arms, first, Gerry.

0:47:550:47:58

Can I ask you just to squeeze my fingers as hard as you can.

0:47:580:48:02

That's it.

0:48:020:48:03

It's six days since Gerry had his stroke.

0:48:030:48:07

Lovely. Hard as you can, Gerry. Go on.

0:48:070:48:09

That's it.

0:48:090:48:10

OK, keep going down, we're going to head straight for the doors.

0:48:150:48:18

-To the door?

-Yeah, just to the doors and have a touch

0:48:180:48:21

-and we're going to turn around and go back.

-OK.

0:48:210:48:23

All right?

0:48:230:48:25

What is it like seeing Gerry walk like that

0:48:260:48:29

after what's happened to him?

0:48:290:48:30

Sorry.

0:48:320:48:34

Gerry is recovering well.

0:48:410:48:43

It was last Thursday...

0:48:440:48:46

But further tests reveal a narrowing of one of the blood vessels

0:48:460:48:49

that supplies his brain, putting him at risk of another stroke.

0:48:490:48:53

So we're having a multi-disciplinary team meeting

0:48:530:48:56

with the vascular surgeons and also the stroke team

0:48:560:48:58

and we're having to make a decision on what we think

0:48:580:49:01

the best treatment is for Gerry.

0:49:010:49:03

Is there any indication for carotid endarterectomy?

0:49:030:49:06

I think we have to look at the benefits.

0:49:060:49:08

Certain people can benefit from an operation to clear out the narrowing

0:49:080:49:11

to prevent further strokes.

0:49:110:49:13

I personally don't think he should have his carotid done.

0:49:130:49:17

From my viewpoint, I don't think he is clear-cut at all

0:49:170:49:21

as to whether we should offer him surgery or not.

0:49:210:49:23

I'd quite like to see the patient and then I'll make a judgment.

0:49:230:49:26

-Yeah.

-So I'll go and see him this afternoon.

0:49:260:49:29

We're weighing up the risks because the purpose of doing the operation

0:49:320:49:35

is to reduce his stroke risk.

0:49:350:49:37

He could possibly die having the operation.

0:49:370:49:40

Doctors will let Gerry decide whether he wants surgery or not.

0:49:400:49:44

Hello, sir.

0:49:460:49:48

I'm Professor Davies and we've just had our meeting to discuss

0:49:480:49:52

whether you should have an operation to reduce the risk of having

0:49:520:49:57

a stroke, or whether we should just carry on with various medicines.

0:49:570:50:03

I personally think your risks of going on to have an operation

0:50:030:50:07

are such that it's a very difficult balance.

0:50:070:50:10

My advice would be that you would be better off having

0:50:100:50:13

the appropriate medicines and see how you get on.

0:50:130:50:17

Now, do you have any immediate thoughts about what I've said?

0:50:170:50:21

OK. We will tell them that that's what is your preference.

0:50:260:50:30

So, all in all, I can only say "cheerio"

0:50:300:50:33

because there's nothing for me to do

0:50:330:50:35

and I will, um, get Dr Halse to come back and see you and go from there.

0:50:350:50:39

Nice to see you. OK.

0:50:390:50:40

Nice to see you again.

0:50:400:50:42

Take care.

0:50:420:50:43

I think there are quite a lot of people who have decided,

0:50:450:50:48

particularly as they get older,

0:50:480:50:50

that they do not want to have a surgical intervention.

0:50:500:50:54

It's a known surgical intervention that comes with a given risk

0:50:540:50:58

and therefore feel that they would like nature to take its course.

0:50:580:51:01

You've got to sort of weigh up the pros and cons and I think...

0:51:030:51:07

There are a lot of risks, regardless in what way you look at it

0:51:080:51:12

but I think having an operation, the risk is much bigger.

0:51:120:51:15

I think that, anyway.

0:51:150:51:16

I tend to agree with Gerry.

0:51:160:51:18

For once.

0:51:180:51:20

THEY LAUGH

0:51:200:51:22

Have you been sleeping?

0:51:300:51:32

-Hmm?

-Yeah.

0:51:330:51:35

-OK.

-Yeah.

0:51:350:51:37

Since her bone-marrow transplant,

0:51:410:51:43

Debbie's blood samples have been sent to the lab every day to see if

0:51:430:51:46

her brother's cells have taken hold, a process known as engraftment.

0:51:460:51:50

Carrie calling from Grand Union ward, we've got some urgent

0:51:500:51:53

bloods to be collected, please.

0:51:530:51:55

So far the results have yet to show conclusive evidence it's working.

0:52:000:52:04

I'm just logging on so that I can look at the results of her

0:52:080:52:12

blood tests today.

0:52:120:52:13

The finishing of engraftment is a neutrophil count of more than 0.5

0:52:130:52:17

on three consecutive days.

0:52:170:52:18

If today is also over 0.5

0:52:200:52:24

then...

0:52:240:52:25

..she's winning.

0:52:270:52:28

Hello, Debbie.

0:52:300:52:31

Do you know what's been happening with your blood counts?

0:52:320:52:35

Do you know what they are today?

0:52:350:52:36

No.

0:52:360:52:38

I'll give you the news.

0:52:390:52:41

-Yes.

-Yeah.

0:52:410:52:43

-It's 1.8 today.

-OK.

0:52:430:52:45

Which means it's a third day in a row that it's been more than 0.5,

0:52:450:52:50

-which means you have engrafted.

-Yeah.

0:52:500:52:54

So your new bone marrow is working.

0:52:540:52:56

-Yeah.

-Yes, that's right.

0:52:560:52:59

-So...

-Congratulations.

-Yeah...

0:53:010:53:03

So you and your team, Team Debbie,

0:53:050:53:06

are doing really well.

0:53:060:53:08

-That's good.

-That is good.

0:53:100:53:11

It's like a little bit of magic, isn't it?

0:53:110:53:13

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

0:53:130:53:15

From a patient's point of view,

0:53:160:53:17

being able to establish normal reaction is a key moment.

0:53:170:53:20

The transplant has worked

0:53:220:53:24

and it has been cured.

0:53:240:53:26

Look at that smile.

0:53:270:53:30

-I'm excited.

-Of course.

0:53:300:53:32

-The first step is that you can go out for a little walk.

-Yeah.

0:53:320:53:35

OK.

0:53:350:53:36

Is it nice doing that bit of the job?

0:53:380:53:40

Always the best bit.

0:53:400:53:41

Overall, in the UK, care of sickle cell in childhood is

0:53:430:53:47

absolutely excellent and it's world-class.

0:53:470:53:50

You came here alive and you're going back alive.

0:53:520:53:55

-That's God for you.

-Yeah.

0:53:550:53:57

She's very fond of me and I'm fond of her.

0:53:590:54:01

I don't think we can...

0:54:010:54:03

..live...

0:54:040:54:05

..a day apart.

0:54:060:54:07

What does it feel like to be outside?

0:54:080:54:10

Good.

0:54:100:54:12

I like it.

0:54:120:54:14

It's a bit cold.

0:54:150:54:17

I was worried and I was considering that perhaps I had, um...

0:54:260:54:32

..been a little bit too positive in terms of the way

0:54:330:54:36

I presented things to him.

0:54:360:54:38

That maybe it would have been better if he hadn't had the TAVI.

0:54:380:54:40

-Hello.

-Hello.

0:54:400:54:43

How are you?

0:54:430:54:45

-How are you?

-Getting there.

0:54:470:54:49

Good.

0:54:490:54:50

How has your day been?

0:54:520:54:54

It's been all right.

0:54:540:54:56

He's actually doing remarkably well, I have to say.

0:54:560:54:58

He has had some initial problems with his speech

0:55:010:55:04

and a little bit of his memory and actually all those things

0:55:040:55:07

seem to be more or less resolved now.

0:55:070:55:09

He seems to be back to his usual self.

0:55:090:55:12

He is interested in the world again.

0:55:120:55:14

We were having conversations about who his favourite prime minister was

0:55:140:55:17

and who he thought was the worst prime minister he's ever witnessed in his lifetime.

0:55:170:55:21

You're doing really well.

0:55:210:55:23

-Thank you.

-You're welcome.

0:55:230:55:25

SHE CHUCKLES

0:55:250:55:26

When I was training, 65 was the cut-off at older age.

0:55:260:55:29

That's a young man these days.

0:55:290:55:31

Yes, it's getting busier and the patients are getting older

0:55:310:55:34

because they're surviving longer,

0:55:340:55:36

which is a success story for the UK and the NHS.

0:55:360:55:39

We've got all these amazing, pioneering techniques

0:55:410:55:44

such as TAVI,

0:55:440:55:46

but as the population ages, how sustainable is all of this

0:55:460:55:49

within the current structure of the NHS?

0:55:490:55:51

It was so worth it

0:56:050:56:07

because I get to give her

0:56:070:56:09

another fighting chance.

0:56:090:56:12

Which is beyond something I could ever dream of doing.

0:56:120:56:16

It's like a major beginning for me and my family.

0:56:180:56:22

So...I'm very excited for the future.

0:56:220:56:25

I think we did make the right decision, and his heart, apparently,

0:56:360:56:40

is working beautifully.

0:56:400:56:41

So...I think he has every chance now that he's had the TAVI of getting

0:56:410:56:45

to 100, and if he does, my goodness, the party we'll have at that point.

0:56:450:56:49

I can't wait.

0:56:490:56:51

So, we've got a bit of a problem now.

0:56:530:56:54

Next time...

0:56:540:56:56

I've finished here at Charing Cross so I'm coming over.

0:56:560:56:58

With more patients than theatres,

0:56:580:56:59

surgeons struggle to get their operations started.

0:56:590:57:02

We will talk about it when I've calmed down.

0:57:020:57:06

-SIGHS

-OK, um...

0:57:060:57:08

I'll going to have to go and tell him.

0:57:090:57:11

There's a drive to get obese patients treated.

0:57:110:57:14

So that's ten cancellations on the list tomorrow already.

0:57:140:57:16

I think there is a stigmatisation against obesity.

0:57:160:57:19

I completely disagree with the opinion that

0:57:190:57:22

obesity is self-inflicted.

0:57:220:57:24

And the hospital joins forces with others across the country

0:57:240:57:27

for a live kidney swap.

0:57:270:57:29

Everything has to happen at the same time.

0:57:290:57:31

One mistake can screw up the whole thing.

0:57:310:57:34

Can we please all be quiet,

0:57:340:57:36

just let me think a second.

0:57:360:57:37

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