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'Adult trauma call...' | 0:00:05 | 0:00:06 | |
Just move yourselves over to the side for a minute. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
This winter, one of Britain's busiest NHS trusts | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
opened its doors... | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
We have to look after the patients | 0:00:14 | 0:00:15 | |
whether they come from Buck Palace or the park bench. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
..to show us what's really happening inside our hospitals. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
We've got lots of patients now | 0:00:22 | 0:00:23 | |
competing for an unknown number of beds. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
Every week, more than 20,000 people are treated here. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
-The pressure's just gone. -What?! Has it completely gone? | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
And the numbers, as well as our expectations, are rising. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
We just had our worst ten days on record. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
There's nowhere in the hospital to move anybody. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
At some point, | 0:00:45 | 0:00:46 | |
somebody will be telling us whether we're allowed to do any work. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
This is a place with some of the best specialists in the world... | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
The tumour's out. Job done. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:53 | |
..where lives are transformed. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
This is saving his life. It has to work. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
But they're operating at a time when the NHS | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
has never been under more pressure. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
-Any beds? -No. -No beds for anyone? -No. -OK. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
It does feel to me like the elastic's a bit nearer | 0:01:06 | 0:01:11 | |
to breaking now than it ever was. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
Its very future under scrutiny. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
All right, I think we will go out on red, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
because we're under real pressure in the emergency department. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
We're aware of the problems. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:23 | |
Anybody got a solution(?) | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
Following the patients from the moment they are admitted... | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
Anything I've done up to this point means nothing compared to when | 0:01:27 | 0:01:32 | |
you can literally give a bit of yourself to save someone else. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
..to the moment they leave. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:37 | |
It's all good news. The cancer's gone. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
You don't need any more treatment. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
-Fantastic! -Thank you so much. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
Week by week, we reveal the complex decisions the staff must make | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
about who to care for next. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
That patient is coming to me to be operated on | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
and if I don't do it, then there's only one inevitable outcome - | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
they're going to die. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:01 | |
SIRENS WAIL | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
This is main theatre admissions. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
One can do 12... | 0:02:15 | 0:02:16 | |
Imperial College Healthcare NHS Trust performs over 500 operations | 0:02:16 | 0:02:22 | |
across 19 different surgical specialities every week. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
How long after MRSA...? | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
Got probably about... | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
-12 hours' worth of operating on this list. -At least. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
-16. -Yep. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
-OFF CAMERA: -How's your morning been? -Er, pretty stressful. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
A big case that I was supposed to be doing this afternoon | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
we've had to move and cancel because of this trauma patient | 0:02:43 | 0:02:48 | |
that we've got to get done. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
Hip and pelvic specialist Angus Lewis | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
works across two of the Trust's five hospitals. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
There is only two pelvic surgeons here | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
and one of those is away on annual leave at the moment, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
so it's just me. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
We are a bit stretched. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:05 | |
Could do with another ten! | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
But we're not going to get that. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
I've finished here at Charing Cross, I'm coming over | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
so hopefully by then, the theatre's ready and we can crack on. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
I'll see you over there. All right, bye. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
Today, Angus is needed in St Mary's, five miles away, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
to operate on a man with a shattered pelvis. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
We are constantly battling with elective service | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
and the trauma service | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
and our trauma service is getting busier and busier by the year. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
Hopefully, timing-wise, the operating theatre at St Mary's | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
is going to be vacant by the time I get there on motorcycle. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
It's a bit of a rush but it's just the way it is at the moment | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
and we're just going to have to get our skates on. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
It was a rough night. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:06 | |
It's-it's very painful at the moment. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
Angus's patient is 52-year-old hairdresser Reno. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
HE GROANS | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
At the moment, what they're trying to do, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
to keep the bone of my leg out from the socket | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
away as far as they can by putting the weights at the bottom, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
because they say if it goes up, it can cause more damage. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
I cannot move at all, just my toes I can wave a little bit, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
that's as far as it goes. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
Reno fractured his pelvis in a motorcycle accident. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
He's been waiting four days for an operation to repair it. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
The way the doctor explained to me, the whole socket, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
it's shattered, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:51 | |
it's about seven, eight pieces and I'm actually sitting on it. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
Along with some other medication, | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
every five minutes, I get 15ml of... | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
like a morphine. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:04 | |
Ooh. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:09 | |
There's nothing they can do. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
I just, I can't find the right sweet angle. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
The right... | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
Oh. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
To make time for Reno's surgery, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
Angus has cancelled another patient's preplanned hip operation. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
This is a very bad injury. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
The socket of his left hip joint is in quite a lot of pieces | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
which need to be put back | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
and it's therefore going to take quite a long operation, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
four to five hours and it's not a fracture we can leave. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:51 | |
The longer you leave it, the more difficult it is to fix it. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:56 | |
I don't really want to wait any longer with this gentleman. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
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The problem we've got is the case | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
that was meant to finish hasn't finished yet. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
Right, and then tomorrow, we've only got half a list. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
God, after all that. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
Oh, God. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
It is really... Yeah. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
Well, we'll talk about it when I've calmed down. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
It's none of your fault. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:48 | |
It's not your fault. I'm just pissed off. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
Cos I've now got to find another slot for this guy. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
The consultant who was doing this operation, you know, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
was trying to get me into theatre on time and unfortunately we failed. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:06 | |
And it's just... | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
you do all these things to try and get these things slotted in, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
a lot of which is out of your control, you do what you can... | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
and then it all just goes to pot. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
And that's where we are at the moment. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
OK. Erm... | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
I'm going to have to go and tell him. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:26 | |
I don't... Can you...? If you speak to Ian and just say, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
"Look, there's another two hours left on this list," | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
-if we can get something done. -Yeah. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
We've now pushed aside an elective case | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
which, when you look back on hindsight, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
you wish you hadn't and then you end up doing nothing. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
I hate doing this. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
It doesn't get any easier. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:51 | |
Hello. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:55 | |
Well, I was better. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:01 | |
I am going to tell you that, yeah. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
And I know the disappointment you're going to have. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
You... I have just tried to shift mountains today | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
to try and get you done. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
And I failed. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:15 | |
I'm sorry. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:16 | |
The case that was in that theatre has gone on longer | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
than the surgeon expected, which is not his fault either, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
but it has run-on effects on what we need to do. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
And I'm really sorry. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:34 | |
It's very frustrating. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
Now, Friday is the next slot. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
I have you top of the list. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
I'm not having this again. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
All right. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
I'm sorry. OK. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:51 | |
I'll be in touch. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:54 | |
Reno is one of more than 300 patients at St Mary's | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
who have had their orthopaedic surgery delayed in the past year. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
A bit frustrating. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
And I do feel for the doctor, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:09 | |
because he was more frustrated than me. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
All decisions they've got their hands tied up for. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
It's not their fault. It's really the system. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
It's not their fault. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:21 | |
Friday now, so I've got two more days of just pain. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:32 | |
Welcome to the conference centre. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
Good morning, everyone. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
So, St Mary's went out on red this morning. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
It's the job of site director Lesley Powls and her team | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
to make sure there's enough beds at St Mary's for its patients. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
Unplaced electives. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:02 | |
This is a little bit of a movable feast this morning | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
and we're on hold at the moment for anything except for day cases | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
and inpatients in the correct beds. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
An elective patient is a planned patient, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
so it's a patient who knows they're coming into hospital for a surgery. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
'I only called you because I've got six...' | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
The first thing that happens when we have bed pressures | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
is we review our electives, and what we tend to do is | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
prioritise then our urgent electives, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
so our electives who need cancer surgery, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
and patients who have been waiting considerable lengths of time. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
So, this morning we have got only two beds in the hospital, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:42 | |
so all electives, I was about to ring theatres, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
are going to go on hold for the time being. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
I'm trying to be hopeful, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:48 | |
but I have a feeling they probably will be cancelled. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
How's it going? | 0:11:00 | 0:11:01 | |
One of the surgeons hoping to operate today is | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
gastric bypass specialist consultant Mr Ahmed Ahmed. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
Ah, Rhona, hi. How are you? Do we know what the bed status is? | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
-I've explained that we need two beds for the bypasses. -Yeah. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:16 | |
I mean, and you're telling me that at the moment we have one bed? | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
-I don't have any bed at the moment. -No beds. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
41-year-old Daniel is one of five patients today on Mr Ahmed's list. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:31 | |
There's a little bit of me in the back of my mind which is anxious. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
But fingers crossed we've got a bed and we can get this done. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
I don't think I can go through another being sent away | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
and having to wait for another appointment again. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
Daniel has been waiting a year and a half for his weight-loss surgery. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:46 | |
I am 27 stone, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
and I have a BMI of just short of 50. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:54 | |
The family history has not been great, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
so all our parents are no longer with us, | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
so they've all passed away through one ill health or another, so... | 0:12:00 | 0:12:06 | |
If I can sort of increase my chances of a longer life | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
and a healthier life, it's got to be good. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
I don't want to be another statistic, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
where my girls are growing up without their dad. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
I don't want them to be saying goodbye to me at 45. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
Daniel's surgery is scheduled to take place in | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
St Mary's £10 million Surgical Innovation Centre. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
It has its own dedicated weight loss operating theatre and | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
oversized beds for clinically obese patients. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
Hi, Mandy, how are you? Do you have any questions...? | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
When St Mary's is close to capacity, the weight loss beds are regularly | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
redeployed to higher priority patients from across the hospital. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:48 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -Where does bariatric surgery kind of sit | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
in the pecking order at St Mary's, in terms of who gets cancelled? | 0:12:51 | 0:12:56 | |
Well, unfortunately it's low down on the priority list. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
It's often our patients that, you know, get cancelled, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
because there's a lack of beds. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
The beds will first go to patients that are coming in through | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
accident and emergency and then lastly there will be | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
elective surgery like bariatric surgery and... | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
Other specialties as well. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:17 | |
I mean, I don't want to say that mine is the only one | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
that's suffering this problem. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:20 | |
Any kind of elective noncancerous surgery, you know, gets hit. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
When the centre opened in 2012, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
Mr Ahmed and his team performed 750 operations. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
Last year, they completed just 150. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
If you look at the number of patients who meet our | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
national NHS criteria for bariatric surgery, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:45 | |
we should be doing about 1.5 million operations | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
a year in this whole country. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
But I can tell you, last year we probably only did about 9,000. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
The last time it got cancelled was one of the most difficult days | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
that I've had in quite a long time. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
We have this endless number of patients that's building up | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
that don't get their surgery | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
because there is actually no beds in the hospital. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
That is our 82nd complaint from a lady patient of ours. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:22 | |
"I was referred for bariatric surgery at St Mary's in April 2015. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:27 | |
"On calling the team at Mary's, I was informed I would only | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
"possibly get a date February next year, 2017. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
"Putting aside the growing desperation to get my surgery done | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
"and the stress this is causing, this is influencing | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
"my ability to make decisions on my career because I am in limbo. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:44 | |
"This journey has taken the better part of four years. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
"Can you please help?" | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
The waiting list for bariatric surgery | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
is one of the longest in the Trust. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
I think generally there's a feeling that we're victimising them | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
and not giving them... | 0:14:58 | 0:14:59 | |
We're withholding surgery, and what I try to get across is that | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
it's not personal, but that there is... | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
I think there is a stigmatisation against obesity and that that's | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
part of the problem, that we're not prioritising these operations. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
Because in general there's a perception | 0:15:14 | 0:15:15 | |
that obesity is not as big a problem, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
or somehow a lifestyle problem that people have caused themselves. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
It's sad to say but we get a fair amount of complaints, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
and there is a common theme, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
which is basically that people who struggle with this disease | 0:15:28 | 0:15:33 | |
have to wait so long to get treatment. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
How many patients do we have tomorrow coming for surgery? | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
All right. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:41 | |
Fourth time? | 0:15:44 | 0:15:45 | |
Third time coming in. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:50 | |
So that's two three-time cancellations and | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
a fourth-time cancellation, so that's ten cancellations | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
on the list tomorrow already happened previously. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
Unbelievable. All right. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
If Daniel's operation goes ahead today, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
he'll need to recover for two days afterwards on the ward. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
We're going to just pop over to The Lindo Wing, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
which is the private unit of St Mary's Hospital. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
With no beds available, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
Mr Ahmed has a plan to ensure Daniel's operation can happen. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
We were able to have a negotiation | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
which has allowed the NHS part of our hospital | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
to buy two beds for after surgery for two of my patients. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:40 | |
The Lindo Wing is a 39-bed private hospital | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
owned and operated by Imperial Trust. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
Profits from The Lindo are reinvested into the Trust | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
and used to support its NHS services. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
It's one of the primary private units in London. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
I mean, it's very popular. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
I mean, you obviously remember, you know, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
Prince George and Princess Charlotte were born here not so long ago. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
So, yes, it's very important. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
Good morning, Reception. Dorika speaking. How can I help you? | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
Hello. Oh, there she is! | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
-Are you going to take two of my patients today? -Yes, I am. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
-We're ready for you. -Thank you. All right, perfect. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
The Lindo can accommodate Mr Ahmed's NHS patients today because | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
it's not currently full of private clients. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
The costs of nursing them in the private Lindo | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
during their recovery from surgery will be borne by Mr Ahmed's | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
NHS bariatrics budget. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
The alternative, which is not to use these private beds, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
would be for us not to do any surgery. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
And that would be a complete waste of money because it costs the NHS | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
I think roughly about £20 a minute to run an operating room. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
So you can imagine, with all the team and the staff that's there, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
and if we don't operate, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:55 | |
that's costing a lot of money and a lot of wastage. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
So at least by paying a little bit and getting these extra beds, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
at least two of our cases don't get cancelled. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
You know, I think that's a great idea. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
What have you got, elective-wise, Linda? | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
Oh, we've got nine for surgery. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
We use The Lindo Wing beds when they have free capacity, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
but what that means is when we do that, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
we in effect stop Lindo being able to use those beds | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
for a paying private patient. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
The Lindo Wing is part of Imperial and the money that the Lindo | 0:18:24 | 0:18:29 | |
bring in we use to fund NHS work. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
For me, if we've got an empty bed anywhere on this site | 0:18:33 | 0:18:39 | |
I will make sure that we use it, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
because it's really important to get our patients treated, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
irrespective of how the money for that bed comes in. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
Which two of these beds can I have? | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
Colorectal surgeon George Reese is also scheduled | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
to operate this morning. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:58 | |
Hi, good morning. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:01 | |
So, there's two patients on my list today, two ladies, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
who should have been booked for HDU, I think. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
-Are you likely to have any discharges, do you know? -Erm... | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
-They haven't done the round yet but... -Well, we'll wait. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
Before he can start, Mr Reese needs to find an HDU, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:20 | |
or a high dependency unit, bed for his patient, 84-year-old Betty. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
-Were you up very early? -Yes. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
Crack of doom. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
Betty was diagnosed with bowel cancer a month ago. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
She's accompanied by her two sons. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
I think the worst thing is not hearing the news yourself | 0:19:39 | 0:19:45 | |
but telling your relatives, and those close to you. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
I can't quite believe that... | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
that I've actually got it. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:56 | |
It doesn't seem possible. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
I don't know. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:02 | |
You expect to have some feeling that there's that beast in you. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:07 | |
But there's, apart from having an occasional pain, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
there's nothing extraordinary about it. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
-Quite tough. Are you quite brave? -No, no! I'm a registered coward! | 0:20:14 | 0:20:19 | |
But pull the plug if I'm going to be... | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
As soon as they stop filming, we'll do that, yeah. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
We're going to do a day case whilst we find out if we're going to be | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
allowed to do any operating at all today because the bed | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
situation is worse than we had first thought. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
And we may not even get a bed for our cancer case, apparently. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
Any help in negotiating a bed would be appreciated. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
I'm texting our divisional manager. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:26 | |
And I'm also going to send the same message to his boss. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
Just, really, for some leverage. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
Everyone's doing what they can, but I don't like being in the dark. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
Because things were so bad for such a long time | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
that all of the previous ways | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
we had of negotiating beds have been exhausted. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
And...there isn't a way any more. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
The site manager says there's a bed, there's a bed. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
Or they don't, and then there isn't. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
OK. Daniel, good to see you, how are you? | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
Welcome back to the hospital for attempt number two. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
At the moment, in the hospital, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
we are having a huge problem with beds on the NHS side. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
So, in fact, we don't have any beds for you. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
But I have got a bed for you in the private side. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
So you're going to be looked after after the surgery not in this | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
building but the one across the street, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
which is the private building, for private patients. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
And we've actually done a deal so we basically bought | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
a bed for you there so the operation doesn't get cancelled. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
You'll have your own private room, and, you know, en-suite bathroom. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
You know, it's a bit more luxurious. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
Daniel's obesity has led to Type 2 diabetes, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
sleep apnoea and high blood pressure. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
And the amazing thing we will hopefully see, and we see | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
that in 80% of cases, | 0:22:51 | 0:22:52 | |
is your diabetes will begin to melt away within hours of the operation. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:57 | |
All these drugs you're on at the moment, hopefully, | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
we'll be able to switch them all off, one after the other. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
'You can take Daniel's case.' | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
Poor guy's suffering from diabetes and on five different drugs. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
How much money does that cost the NHS? | 0:23:09 | 0:23:10 | |
I would say just tablet treatment for diabetes | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
will probably be costing the NHS close to £8,000-£9,000 every year | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
for the rest of his life. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
So, people who have diabetes will get heart disease, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
they'll get strokes, they'll get problems with their eyes, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
they'll get amputations, they'll get kidney damage. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
And I'm not even costing in the cost of treating those health | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
problems from diabetes. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
So, one operation that's going to cost the NHS close | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
to £6,000 will, in fact, pay for itself within a year or two. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
-All right, thank you, see you in a bit. Goodbye. -Thank you. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
-Oh, I'm sorry it's such a long time. -That's all right. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
I thought you'd be going. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
Betty needs a post-operative high dependency bed, | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
which is still not available. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
There is one potential short-term solution. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
We can do the cancer if we're prepared for her | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
to stay in recovery. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:02 | |
Let me check the number on your band. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
Although I've got permission to send, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
she's going to have to spend... | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
you know, probably at least a couple of days in recovery. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
Of all the ladies I've had for these cancers, | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
this is really not a good person to leave in recovery indefinitely. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
Recovery is a 12-bay holding area | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
adjacent to the main operating theatres. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
It's designed for patients to wake up from their anaesthetic, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
before being moved and cared for on the appropriate ward. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
What it means is that because our recovery isn't set up as a ward, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:44 | |
it's supposed to be somewhere that people spend no more than | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
four hours, there are not the normal facilities you need | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
to get people up and going after an operation, and it's not staffed | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
to nurse unwell, post-operative patients for long periods of time. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
We know that there are some operations where we just | 0:24:58 | 0:25:03 | |
really struggle to be able to postpone them. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
And we look for what's the next best option. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
And, often, the next best option, for that patient is recovery. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
A last resort is cancelling. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:15 | |
It's the next best option. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
Hi, sorry to disturb you. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
Thank you and everyone said that I'm allowed to do the cancer case | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
and she can stay here and stuff, but I'm not totally sure | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
if she's the right person to stay here. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
She's 84, she's quite frail, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
and it might not be the nicest or safest place for her to recover | 0:25:32 | 0:25:37 | |
for more than a minimum period of time. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
How are we staffed, if we do decide to do this now? | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
So, today, the only patient I know that's going to stay overnight... | 0:25:44 | 0:25:50 | |
-Would be her? -..is her. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
If you're well staffed, and she'll be the only one, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
then that should be OK. OK, thank you. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
We'll go ahead with Betty's operation. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
After only... | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
..3.5 hours of wrangling. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
So, we're going to send for Betty. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
Oh, right, OK. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
Thank you. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
-See you later. -Yep. -Goodbye for now. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
Thank you. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
-Hi, sorry about the delay. -Hello. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
I think you've witnessed a lot of the frustration we've had | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
this morning, trying to do operations and being told, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
"No, you can't start in case there's no bed later," and, then, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:42 | |
after hours of not doing anything, they find a bed. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
Bowel cancer is the fourth most common cancer in the UK, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
with over 100 new diagnoses each day. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
Bowel cancer is curable. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
And if people report symptoms to their doctors early, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:04 | |
then they have better results. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
Let's orientate it. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
So, this is the ascending colon and the caecum coming down here. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
And then off the bottom of the caecum, this is going to be the | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
appendix here, which has tailed back on itself. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
The cancer's all in here. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
It's very hard here. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:23 | |
Until we've got the final pathology, I can't... | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
I can never say never, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:28 | |
but I would imagine that we will consider it definitive... | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
..treatment. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
Betty will stay in recovery until an HDU bed becomes available. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:41 | |
After 18 months of waiting, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
Daniel is having his gastric bypass surgery. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
It's only going ahead because the Trust's private Lindo Wing | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
is providing him with a bed. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
This is the first time we've done this. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
Is it a long-term solution? I don't know. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
That's something you'd have to ask the managers. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
How long can the carry on... | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
you know... | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
funding these private beds? Hard to know. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
But, you know, it's one way to, you know, get through the work, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:21 | |
and make sure our patients get the surgery they need so much. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
Mr Ahmed will use keyhole surgery to reduce the size of Daniel's | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
stomach by 80%. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
So, this is the size of his new stomach, his neo-stomach. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
We're joining on the lower bowel. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
So, this is the small intestine being pulled up, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
so his initial weight loss will come all internally. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
All this fat we see here will melt away in the next few weeks. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
Start to go very, very quickly for him. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
The surgery, it returns life expectancy back to normal. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:56 | |
It reduces the risk of getting cancer by 40%. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
People who were previously perhaps not working or on unemployment | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
benefit will, hopefully, after losing weight and getting | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
their health back, will go back to work. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
So, I can't think of any other surgery that's as beneficial, | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
both to the individual and to society. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
Daniel's operation is completed. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
He'll spend two nights recovering in St Mary's private Lindo Wing. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:23 | |
Ah, there she is! | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
Not quite what I expected when I came up. They're just waiting | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
for a bed in the high-dependency. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
Yeah. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:53 | |
She's always been the one that looks after us rather than | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
anyone else looking after her. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
You go back to sleep, if you can. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
After seven hours in recovery, | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
a bed becomes available for Betty in the high-dependency unit. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
It's Lesley at St Mary's. Have we got Hammersmith? | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
-'Yes.' -Renal, are you on the line? -'Yes. No problems. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
-'We have two beds.' -Marvellous. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
Three miles west of St Mary's | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
is the Trust's renal unit at Hammersmith Hospital. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
Renal will work really hard to ensure that there is | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
a bed if they have something like a transplant coming up. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
And they're protected, because what they do is very, very special. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:51 | |
Surgeons here are specialists in live kidney transplants, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
where organs are harvested from healthy donors. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
You are seeing the best of the best. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
It's kind of the jewel in Imperial's crown, really. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
Can we do a group hug? | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
-Yep! -So, busy day today. We have... | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
Head of transplantation Frank Dor | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
conducts around 35 live donations a year. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
People are still not aware that they can save a life by donating | 0:31:21 | 0:31:25 | |
a kidney. It is one of the most beautiful things to do. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
As you will see, it's just lovely to do an operation knowing that people | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
will actually get a second life and knowing that the donor will | 0:31:31 | 0:31:36 | |
do well, as well. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:37 | |
-So, let's concentrate on the live donor first... -Yep. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
..and everything else according to the protocol. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
BELL PINGS | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
-Hi! -How are you? -I'm fine! How are you? -Yeah, I'm all right. -Good! | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
How are you? | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
31-year-old Jen, a mother of two, | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
is donating one of her kidneys to save her husband's life. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
In my mind, it's very black and white to give my kidney away. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
For me, it's not a selfless thing that I'm doing. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
We are ready. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:10 | |
My husband gets his life back, my kids get their father back. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
Jen's husband Elliot has a rare autoimmune disease which has | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
left him with just 5% kidney function. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
I had kidney failure and I had to go straight onto dialysis. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
He is kept alive by regular four-hour dialysis sessions. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:33 | |
The last eight months have been pretty tough, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
you know, not being able to work full time and going to | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
dialysis three times a week. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:40 | |
We've got a young family, and we've got kids, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
and we explained to them that everybody has two kidneys and both | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
of Daddy's kidneys weren't working and that he needed a new one. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
At Imperial, without a live donor, | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
kidney patients typically wait three to five years for an organ to | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
become available from the deceased donor list. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
There's great studies that show that overall, | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
50% of dialysis patients don't survive five years, so this is very | 0:33:04 | 0:33:10 | |
serious, and a kidney transplant can prolong life with decades. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
Forget about the whole circus and focus on each other, | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
-and we will take care of the rest. -OK. -Yeah? -Thank you. -Excellent! | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
-See you round. -See you later. -Bye-bye. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
I knew I wanted to be a donor. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:28 | |
There was never a second of doubt in my mind. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
This is something I wanted to do. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
We're both going to have an operation on the same day, | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
so it's quite nice to go through that together, I think. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
They're a very close, tight little unit and just there for each other. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:50 | |
It's not like Elliot would have said to her, "Will you do this for me?" | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
It was just right away, "Right, I will give you my kidney," | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
as anyone that you love would do. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
Where's my dad? | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
OK, love you. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
-Bye. -Be good. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
Love you. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
-Tough, isn't it? -JEN LAUGHS | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
You know, this is about him and this is saving his life. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
I love you. Good luck. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
His operation means a lot more to me than my operation, | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
because his HAS to be OK, it has to work, he needs that kidney to work. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:37 | |
And, Jennifer, what operation are we doing? | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
-Kidney transplant. -So what operation are you having? -A donor. Sorry. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
-Can I just make the famous arrow... -You can! | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
..so that you're still awake and still remember that we're going to | 0:34:46 | 0:34:50 | |
take your left kidney out? | 0:34:50 | 0:34:51 | |
As soon as Frank Dor harvests Jen's kidney, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
an intricate chain of events will be set in motion. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
I was unable to donate directly to him as I wasn't a blood type match. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:04 | |
And when I found out, that was devastating. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
Jen's blood type means she can't donate directly to Elliot, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
so the couple are taking part in a pioneering kidney-sharing scheme. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
Jen will donate to someone else in the UK, | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
and Elliot actually gets a kidney from somewhere else in the UK. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:22 | |
She ensures he gets a kidney transplant. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:27 | |
Four times a year, a group of specialist renal centres, | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
including Hammersmith, unites in a kidney swap initiative | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
called Paired and Pooled. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:35 | |
So, I'll be co-ordinating for the day with my other colleagues | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
in the other centres and making sure | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
everything is OK with our donor recipient pair | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
and we're happy to proceed. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
And everything has to happen at the same time, basically, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
putting the patient to sleep at the same time and the operations | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
starting at the same time | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
and there's no problem, so we communicate constantly for the day. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:01 | |
Hoping that everything goes smoothly, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
there's no last-minute cock-ups. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
One mistake, you know, can screw up or mess up the whole thing. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
All the pre-transplant work is anonymous. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:16 | |
For now, no-one knows to whom | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
he's donating and from whom she is receiving. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
You know, to help improve someone else's life is really important, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
having been through and seen how Elliot suffers. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
No-one should be suffering like that. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
For Jen to be able to do that for a complete stranger | 0:36:34 | 0:36:39 | |
is, you know, admirable. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:40 | |
OK, so are you happy for us to put our donor to sleep? | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
-Thank you. Bye. -So it's a yes? -Yes. -Great. I'll get started! | 0:36:49 | 0:36:54 | |
-Good news! We can start! -Oh, my God! -Jennifer, squeeze my hand. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
-I don't mind. -He's really strong. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
You'll feel a little bit light-headed. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
We'll do some arm wrestling. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
Hello! Are you OK? Do you know which room my patients are in? | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
Weight-loss patient Daniel is recovering from yesterday's | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
operation to reduce the size of his stomach. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
Right, there he is. How are you? | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
-I'm good, thank you. -Good to see you. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
How about the drinks? Are they going down OK? | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
I've had a small mouthful, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
and I think for one occasion it actually felt like it was too much. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
So there's a feeling of fullness you're getting as part of | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
a consequence of the surgery we did. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
When was the last meal you ate before the surgery? Sunday night? | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
It was Sunday night. It was around... It finished about 6:30. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:52 | |
-Do you feel hungry today? -Not particularly. -No. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
So isn't that amazing? We went through all of Sunday night, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
all of Monday, yesterday, with nothing to eat, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
and then till now all you've been having is a bit of water and soup. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
-Yeah. -So for most of us, we'd be famished right now. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
But the amazing thing is that you don't feel hungry, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
-and that's the effect of the surgery. -Yeah, yeah. -OK? -Definitely. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
-Thank you. -Take care. Bye-bye. -Cheers. Right, thank you. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
What, bring them in the private sector? | 0:38:21 | 0:38:22 | |
I didn't ask Daniel what he thought of the ward, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
but he seems really happy. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
Well, we'll see. At the moment, we have no beds on the NHS. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
And this is one practical solution so that, you know, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:34 | |
my surgeons can do their work and we don't get any... | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
it'll minimise the cancellations. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
So, this is a nice anatomy lesson, guys, for the students. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:53 | |
And of course, what you see is a bit magnified. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
Transplant surgeon Frank Dor is about to remove Jen's healthy | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
kidney as part of a unique kidney swap scheme. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
Can we zoom in there some? This is the kidney, still covered, | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
but you can see the shape of a kidney bean. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
That's why it's a "kidney bean". | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
And it's a beautiful, beautiful kidney that we see. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
And of course, it makes it beautiful because we know that | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
it's going to save Elliot's life. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
I'm just going to expose the kidney. It's an operation with finesse. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:31 | |
And that's what's necessary. There is a small risk. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
There is no operation without any risk. The risk of dying is about... | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
is reported to be one in 3,000. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
If something goes wrong, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
obviously - and I can't stress it enough - this is | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
a person that doesn't need this operation, and basically we | 0:39:47 | 0:39:52 | |
only can do things wrong, because she's perfect now, in good health. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:57 | |
I'm going to make a few small incisions in her. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
That's going to change her body forever, | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
and of course she's taking some risk by having a vital organ removed. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:07 | |
So, the kidney is almost free. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
Stapler ready? | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
-On... -Shh, shh, shh. Please. Just let me think a second. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
Staplers did not fire, and we have a thing there. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
Can we please all be quiet? Sam, if you hold this... | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
OK, another stapler now. Scissors. Thank you. Just cut it. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:39 | |
Ahhh... | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
OK, kidney back. Nothing wrong with the kidney. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:51 | |
And nothing wrong with Jen, which is of course most important. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
-OK. -It's like delivering a newborn baby. That's how I see it! | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
This kidney's coming out, and we look at it and think, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
"Wow, this is so brilliant." | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
Science has evolved, and eventually this is going to save | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
someone's life and give them a good quality of life. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
So it's all exciting now. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
OK, lights on. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
It's a beautiful kidney, and you know it's going to change | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
someone's life in another centre, so that is a good feeling. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
Jen's healthy kidney is one of many | 0:41:22 | 0:41:23 | |
that have been harvested simultaneously across the country. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
As hers is couriered to its recipient, her husband | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
Elliot's new kidney should now be on its way to Hammersmith. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
Jennifer, you've got another bump coming. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:42 | |
I'm so proud of her as a mother. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:45 | |
I just think what she's doing is just incredible. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
And you couldn't ask for a bigger | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
show of love, could you, to somebody? | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
-Stay asleep. -You saved someone's life. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
It's gone to a very good place. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
Love you. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
-Nearly there. -Nearly there. One down, one to go. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
-Go back to sleep. Rest. -Yeah. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -What's it like to see | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
your daughter-in-law give away a kidney for your son? | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
It's going to cost him a lot of Chanel handbags! | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
For sure! | 0:42:21 | 0:42:22 | |
-Your eyelashes look good. -Mm. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
Two people, two members of your closest family, | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
to be operated on on the same day is just... | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
..really, really tough. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:34 | |
-All yours. -Thank you. -Perfect. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
Elliot's new kidney arrives from its anonymous donor. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
If the transplant is a success, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
he will be able to come off dialysis immediately. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
-PETER: -Please, God, if the kidney works, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
then it'll be a new life for him. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
See you. Love you. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
See you later. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
You can't really plan, you know, five, ten, fifteen years in advance. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:09 | |
You just have to take this one and live | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
a completely normal life and hope it lasts a long time. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
Elliot's operation will be performed | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
by Imperial's head of renal surgery, Vassilios Papalois. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:23 | |
The kidney looks beautiful, actually, very nicely procured. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
The anatomical structures have been protected, | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
so this is a very good start. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
The clock is ticking, and we cannot wait. We can't simply wait. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:39 | |
It's an amazing feeling, | 0:43:39 | 0:43:41 | |
I mean, to be able to help people that are in this very difficult | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
situation, and especially the living donor operation is | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
absolutely amazing, actually, because not the life of an | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
individual but the life of a whole family changes dramatically. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:54 | |
But it's equally important to remember that the kidney transplants | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
add years of life, as well. | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
So, we are basically ready to start. As you can see, | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
the kidney's grey because all the blood has been flushed out and | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
has been replaced by a very expensive preservation solution. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:12 | |
But it's a nice and healthy kidney. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
You put your hand in here to protect the kidney. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
Here. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
Must not go on the floor. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:22 | |
Quite soon we're going to be coming up to | 0:44:30 | 0:44:32 | |
a fairly crucial part of the operation, | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
when we take off the clamps on the vessels which supply | 0:44:35 | 0:44:39 | |
the transplanted kidney and the transplanted kidney will | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
fill up with blood. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
It's a miracle and it's happening in front of your eyes. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
It's something that was practically dead, | 0:44:49 | 0:44:51 | |
an organ in an ice box without blood, and it's coming back to life. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:55 | |
You can see it start making urine. See that? | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
It's urine, it's already working. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:04 | |
That's the transplant section. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
It looks good, actually. Nice and pink and both arteries are buzzing, | 0:45:07 | 0:45:11 | |
which is excellent news. I think it went very well, very pleased. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:15 | |
All I thought about was what it's going to be like, you know, | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
spending time with the kids normally, being able to go | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
swimming and all those things that you take for granted. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:36 | |
Elliot will be monitored closely over the next few days | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
to make sure his body doesn't reject the donor kidney. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
It's a lovely morning today. The operation day. | 0:45:57 | 0:46:00 | |
I feel much better, had a good night rest. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:04 | |
This young lady here is my beloved wife, Marina. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
Without her I don't think I would be where I am now. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
It is quite excessive damage that he's done to his pelvis and | 0:46:14 | 0:46:18 | |
it'll be a while before he's better. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
I'm sure he thought he was going to be up and about in | 0:46:21 | 0:46:23 | |
a couple of weeks, going back to his dancing and his cross-fit and | 0:46:23 | 0:46:27 | |
standing up ten hours a day at work. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:31 | |
I think the surgeon kind of made him realise that he won't be doing | 0:46:31 | 0:46:35 | |
a lot of that stuff for maybe a year. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:38 | |
The problem will be probably when I get him home, but then | 0:46:38 | 0:46:41 | |
hopefully his mother will come and she'll look after him at home | 0:46:41 | 0:46:44 | |
and I'll just be out of the house working all day! | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
See you later. Thank you. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
Two days after the operation to repair his shattered pelvis | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
was postponed, Reno is finally called to theatre. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:59 | |
This is a very bad injury. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:19 | |
You can see the number of fragments that we're now dealing with. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:25 | |
There is one assistant who is pulling on the leg, | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
which is actually one of the most important jobs. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:39 | |
It helps the surgeon to hold the fracture in the position | 0:47:39 | 0:47:44 | |
he wants it. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
Then, once we've worked out how it's all going to go back together again, | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
the next stage of the operation is trying to hold it there | 0:47:49 | 0:47:53 | |
with plates and screws. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:54 | |
Screwdriver, please. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:03 | |
That's fantastic, that looks great. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
It's reconstituted his socket, which was just in pieces earlier. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:10 | |
We're now going to close up. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
And we're done so, you know, this guy's got his operation. Brilliant. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:21 | |
-So, shall we go and see her? -Yes. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:35 | |
Good morning, very nice to see you again. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
How are you feeling this morning? | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
Yes, I'm not surprised you feel a little ropey. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
Betty has spent the past three days recovering from her bowel | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
cancer surgery on a high-dependency ward. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:53 | |
It's very important to sit you out of bed and to get you out and | 0:48:53 | 0:48:55 | |
moving and to get you breathing deeply, OK? | 0:48:55 | 0:48:58 | |
We'll keep a very close eye on you. | 0:48:58 | 0:48:59 | |
-All right, bye-bye. -Thank you. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
She's obviously had her confidence hit a bit, which is perfectly | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
natural, perfectly expected, given the circumstances. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:08 | |
So I'm trying to build up that confidence and try to get | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
into her head that she's going to be going home after the weekend. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
I think that's probably roughly when she'll be fit. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:17 | |
We think it's going to be the middle of next week. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:23 | |
It seemed pretty fast to us, | 0:49:23 | 0:49:25 | |
but she's got a good support network, | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
so someone will always be with her once she does come home. | 0:49:28 | 0:49:32 | |
Good morning, Jen. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:21 | |
-Hi. -Good morning. -Good morning. Sleeping in today? | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
Elliot and his wife Jen are recovering well, | 0:50:27 | 0:50:30 | |
following their respective kidney operations. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:33 | |
People probably think you've done an amazing thing, I hope. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:38 | |
I don't know about that but just making sure Ell was OK. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
I was in contact with the transplant surgeon in the other centre | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
-yesterday... -Yeah. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:45 | |
..and even up till late in the evening we texted each other. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:49 | |
-Good. -So he was very happy with your kidney. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:53 | |
-And your kidney turned out to be a perfect match. -Oh, my God! | 0:50:53 | 0:50:58 | |
So this is a one-off event. | 0:50:58 | 0:50:59 | |
-Oh, I'm really happy to hear that! -Yeah? | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
That's what I thought. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:03 | |
-Really happy. -Yeah. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:04 | |
OK, good. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:05 | |
She is not a patient. I normally don't call live donors a patient. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:11 | |
She is healthy, she comes in, she feels a bit worse, of course, | 0:51:11 | 0:51:15 | |
afterwards, by having one kidney and having had an operation | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
that she didn't need. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:20 | |
The most important thing is that Jen can live with one kidney | 0:51:20 | 0:51:23 | |
for the rest of her life, | 0:51:23 | 0:51:25 | |
and we know that there is a slight increased risk | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
for getting end-stage renal disease herself. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:32 | |
However, if we do a thorough follow-up | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
and act upon things that arise early, | 0:51:35 | 0:51:37 | |
we may actually provide her a very safe and healthy life. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:41 | |
Bye-bye, dear. See you very soon. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
Last year, there were over 1,000 living kidney donations in the UK. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:48 | |
Frank wants live donors like Jen | 0:51:48 | 0:51:50 | |
to be able to go to the top of the transplant waiting list | 0:51:50 | 0:51:54 | |
should they themselves experience kidney failure in the future. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:58 | |
So, thanks to be able to present on | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
an issue related to live kidney donation. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
This is more a general ethical issue | 0:52:03 | 0:52:07 | |
or dilemma that I'm facing actually every day. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:10 | |
He brings the issue to Imperial's ethics committee. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
Consisting of staff volunteers and members of the public, | 0:52:13 | 0:52:17 | |
it meets once a month to review and debate the moral | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
and ethical implications of the Trust's work. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:23 | |
None of these people are actually involved in my field of expertise, | 0:52:23 | 0:52:27 | |
and represent the broader public, actually, | 0:52:27 | 0:52:31 | |
rather than just me talking to my colleagues, | 0:52:31 | 0:52:33 | |
who might, you know, think more like me. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:37 | |
First, I need to tell you that live kidney donation | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
for the recipient, if you get a transplant from a live kidney donor, | 0:52:41 | 0:52:45 | |
gives the best outcome, and it is spectacular. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:49 | |
If this were cancer it would be Nobel-prize winning, I'm sure. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:53 | |
So I think our duty as people who take out kidneys | 0:52:53 | 0:52:58 | |
for the benefit of others goes for the rest of their lives, | 0:52:58 | 0:53:02 | |
and that's why I think we have some obligation, at least, | 0:53:02 | 0:53:07 | |
to give them at least perhaps some priority, even, if I think about it. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:11 | |
Um... I'm quite conflicted | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
because I had a live kidney donor, who's my brother, | 0:53:14 | 0:53:16 | |
and of course on a human level I'd like to say, fantastic, | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
if he suffers renal failure late in life | 0:53:19 | 0:53:21 | |
he should get preference cos he's done such a wonderful thing. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
The truth is we don't give priority to anybody, | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
but the reality is, | 0:53:27 | 0:53:29 | |
if we are to give live donors a bonus number of points, | 0:53:29 | 0:53:34 | |
how do you set that and who do you disadvantage? | 0:53:34 | 0:53:37 | |
Even though I really want to see my brother have that priority, | 0:53:37 | 0:53:42 | |
I'm really not sure that...that I can ethically, morally justify it. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:49 | |
I'm very mindful of your relationship with these live donors, | 0:53:49 | 0:53:55 | |
but I do take very seriously the idea of introducing value judgments. | 0:53:55 | 0:54:01 | |
If you introduce value judgments, where does that stop? | 0:54:01 | 0:54:05 | |
However admirable it is to donate a kidney, | 0:54:05 | 0:54:09 | |
what you potentially describe sounds like an unequal two-tiered system. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:14 | |
We do not treat people differently whether they're policemen, | 0:54:14 | 0:54:17 | |
a fireman, a drug dealer, a child - it doesn't work like that. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:21 | |
Everybody receives care equally | 0:54:21 | 0:54:23 | |
and that's how the NHS has sort of evolved and worked to function. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:27 | |
I think every time you have an ethical discussion, | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
especially in a broader group, | 0:54:30 | 0:54:32 | |
it helps you enormously. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:34 | |
At least you can bring these dilemmas that you're facing | 0:54:34 | 0:54:37 | |
every day in your job to the table. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:39 | |
No-one is saying, "Oh, you're doing it wrong," | 0:54:39 | 0:54:41 | |
or, "You have the wrong opinion," | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
because everyone is giving an opinion. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
And it might be a consensus but it might not be a consensus, | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
so it's just giving me input. That's really great. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:53 | |
I've never come down this way until the morning of the operation. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
-Hi! -How are you? -I'm fine. -Good to see you. -How are you? I'm good. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:13 | |
-How are you? -Very well. -Hi. -Alex. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
The day I came out of hospital | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
felt like the world had lifted off our shoulders, instantly. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
-So, you look well, but how do you feel? -I feel well. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
-I feel really good. -Would you do it again? -Yes, I would. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
-Unfortunately, we can't. -No! Thank God for that! | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
-Have you needed dialysis? -No. No dialysis, | 0:55:31 | 0:55:35 | |
so I can now have a shower, | 0:55:35 | 0:55:37 | |
I can go swimming, I can do normal things again. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
But having lived quite a restricted life for such a long time, | 0:55:40 | 0:55:44 | |
I feel like a new person now. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
It means so much to us that not only | 0:55:47 | 0:55:49 | |
did you get fixed, but someone else has got fixed as well. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:53 | |
-Happy? -Very. -Very. -Very, very happy. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:57 | |
Yeah, it shows. | 0:55:57 | 0:56:00 | |
-So see you around! -Thank you very much. -Ah! -Good man. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:03 | |
-Hi, Betty. How are you? -Hello! | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
-How are you feeling? -Not too bad, thank you. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:17 | |
11 days after her operation, Betty is well enough to go home. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:21 | |
-I just wanted a chat about your results, which we got back. -Oh, good. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:25 | |
-It's not as dramatic as it might feel at the moment. -Yeah. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:30 | |
It's all good news. The general consensus is that you don't need any more treatment. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:34 | |
-Oh! -It's all done. -Fantastic! -OK? -All your good work. Thank you! | 0:56:34 | 0:56:39 | |
It's a pleasure. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:40 | |
-So, in actual fact, we probably don't need to follow up the cancer at all. -Oh! | 0:56:40 | 0:56:45 | |
-It's probably...it's probably gone. -Yes. -We're very pleased. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:50 | |
-Hopefully you are, too. -I am very, very pleased. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:53 | |
-What can I say but thank you? -It's a pleasure. It's a pleasure. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
You don't need to thank me at all. | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
It's my pleasure. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
-I'll see you soon. I'll see you in four weeks. -Thank you. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
It's so difficult to find the words to say thank you, | 0:57:08 | 0:57:13 | |
cos there aren't enough words, and he... | 0:57:13 | 0:57:19 | |
I just love him, anyway! | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 | |
Across the six weeks you've been here, I think you will have seen | 0:57:24 | 0:57:29 | |
the absolute best of us, and the worst of us at times. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:34 | |
And I think it's really important that the public and our patients | 0:57:35 | 0:57:40 | |
can see how hard we work to really try and make it right. | 0:57:40 | 0:57:45 | |
I think there needs to be a shift in the expectation | 0:57:45 | 0:57:49 | |
of what people want the NHS to deliver, | 0:57:49 | 0:57:52 | |
because you can't keep on pulling and pulling on this system. | 0:57:52 | 0:57:57 | |
We're all a bit tired, | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
and we all have to dig deep within at times | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
to find that extra bit of strength. | 0:58:03 | 0:58:06 | |
And, you know, we're all only humans at the end of it, aren't we? | 0:58:06 | 0:58:10 | |
What choices would you make | 0:58:12 | 0:58:14 | |
when faced with complex healthcare decisions? | 0:58:14 | 0:58:17 | |
Visit our interactive pages to find out how you would respond. | 0:58:17 | 0:58:20 | |
Go to: | 0:58:20 | 0:58:23 | |
Follow the links to the Open University. | 0:58:23 | 0:58:26 |