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For Victorian Britons, George Bradshaw was a household name.

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At a time when railways were new,

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Bradshaw's guidebook inspired them to take to the tracks.

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I'm using a Bradshaw's Guide to understand how trains

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transformed Britain, its landscape, its industry,

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society and leisure time.

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As I crisscross the country 150 years later,

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it helps me to discover the Britain of today.

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I'm now more than halfway through my journey

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travelling to the south west of London.

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Today I'll visit two palaces, one famous and one forgotten.

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I'll discover how Queen Victoria was an accident of birth

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and learn how her subjects

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changed their attitudes to duelling and disabilities.

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Using my Bradshaw's Guide, I've taken in the beauty of Kent,

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and followed a route south of London into Surrey.

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Racing through the Home Counties, I'll now be visiting royals

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and reformers before ending riverside in Henley-on-Thames.

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Today I discover forgotten royal histories in Esher,

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follow in the footsteps of the Victorian tourist at Hampton Court,

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pass through Teddington, and defend my honour on a London common.

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I'm let loose on the longest vine in the world.

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Have you ever allowed an incompetent like me to do this?

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No. No.

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I get fired up like an early Victorian gent...

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I've hit my man.

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..and find out how the course of British history was set in Esher.

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If Charlotte had not died, Victoria would never have been conceived

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and we would never have had the Victorian era.

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It's early morning as I begin my journey.

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My first stop will be Hampton Court where I will be visiting the palace.

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Bradshaw's reminds us that Cardinal Wolsey,

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"Created great envy at court," when he built it.

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So much so that, unsurprisingly, King Henry VIII took it over.

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"Numerous sovereigns since have made it their temporary abode

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"and the last who resided here was George II,

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"since which the Crown reserves the right of resuming possession,"

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a surprising thought to us, who think of the palace as a museum

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and a film set.

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Hampton Court Station is

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the terminus of a branch of the South West Main Line.

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It arrived here in 1849,

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enabling visitors to visit Hampton Court Palace, which had been

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open to the public by Queen Victoria in the previous decade.

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The railways unleashed mass tourism, as sightseers

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from across the country were enabled to visit spectacular locations.

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Here, the original Tudor palace had been repeatedly extended...

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Thank you very much.

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..offering courtyards, royal chambers,

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galleries and beautiful gardens to explore.

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-Good morning.

-Good morning, sir.

-Thank you very much.

-My pleasure.

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I'm here before the crowds to meet

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the Curator of Historic Buildings, Daniel Jackson.

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-Hello, Dan.

-Nice to meet you.

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Judging by the dimensions, this magnificent hall must be

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what's described in my Bradshaw's as Wolsey's Hall.

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Did he, in fact, establish it?

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So, it's a very complicated history.

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There's an awful lot of academic debate as to

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whether this is Wolsey's Hall or Henry's Hall.

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But, I think we're coming down

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on the side that this is probably Henry's Hall.

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The tapestries on the wall are purchased by Henry,

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the roof certainly is finished by Henry.

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When was Hampton Court opened up to mass tourism?

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It's not until 1838.

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Queen Victoria throws open the doors to the masses, free of charge,

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and from that point you very quickly

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have a huge number

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of people visiting.

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It's over 100,000

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in the first ten years,

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up to over 300,000 by the end of the 19th century.

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So a huge number of people coming into the palace,

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people from all walks of life, so you have wonderful

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stories of this becoming a hive of cockneydom,

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and you have lots of people visiting in hobnailed boots, which causes

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chaos for the floors, which is

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why we have very few original floors left, in fact.

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But Hampton Court is somewhere anyone can visit and enjoy,

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and that's true in the 19th century, as it is today.

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Another notable attraction which Bradshaw's is making me

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want to see is the Great Vine. Which way would that be?

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Just back the way you came, and then through Clock Court.

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-Thank you very much, Dan.

-My pleasure.

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The Great Vine, which Bradshaw's records, was reputedly

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planted in 1768, and I'm going to find it,

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and the lady charged with its welfare, Jill Strudwick.

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-Hello, Jill.

-Oh, hello. How do you do?

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I was last here, I think, about 55 years ago. I came as a child.

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-Oh, goodness, did you?

-I have the best memory of it.

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-Ah, well, did you get to taste the grapes?

-I certainly didn't.

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Oh, well, we're really onto autumn now,

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but I've just found one or two little bits left over

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that haven't been pruned.

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If you'd like, you're very welcome to taste some of the very

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last this year before we start with the next job.

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I would love to.

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And they've got the lovely bloom on,

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which you don't get in the supermarkets.

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-I'm thrilled to try this.

-Ah.

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Bradshaw's tells me they're Black Hamburg grapes, is that correct?

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Yes, that's right.

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It's a very old variety, so, sweet dessert grapes,

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but you will find they've got pips in.

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-So sweet, they're lovely.

-Yes, we like to think so.

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And that's because I'm always trying to pick them ripe.

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-RADIO:

-'Once again the world's oldest grapevine

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'is ready to give the world its fruit.

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'If you like really luscious grapes, take some of these.

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'They'll cost you six shillings a pound, but who cares about that

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'because the money goes to charity.'

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Now, you have the most extraordinary,

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the most wonderful title. What is it?

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-Well, I'm the vine keeper.

-How long have you been the vine keeper?

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Oh, oh, oh, am I going to admit to 30 years

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if you don't tell anybody else?

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Really? And do you live on the premises?

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Yeah, yeah, I live just over there behind the wall.

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Grown in a very traditional way, under glass and with heat,

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the Hampton Court specimen appears in the Guinness Book Of Records

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as the largest productive vine in the world.

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Bradshaw's tells me it's 110 feet long, is that still true?

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Well, when I had to measure it for the Guinness Book Of Records,

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-it was 120.

-Oh, that's reasonable.

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Yes, there's not much in that, is there, really?

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Ten foot in a century and a half. And what do you have to do with the vine?

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Well, it's so large that it's like the Forth Bridge,

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as I finish one operation, it's time to start the next,

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and the next thing is the pruning.

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I don't normally allow it but you're welcome

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to come and help me, if you'd like.

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Well, I'd be privileged. Thank you very much indeed.

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We're doing something rather special today, actually.

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Each autumn, I cut this year's growth back by about half,

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and that will encourage it to grow a bit more next year, and that's

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how we're gradually increasing the length of some of these

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branches, the main framework.

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That's really very exciting, so, erm, ooh,

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-am I going to be entrusted to do this?

-Yes, you're going to be

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entrusted with my secateurs to make

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the first cut for this autumn's pruning.

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Have you ever allowed an incompetent like me to do this?

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No, no, no, I haven't.

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No, normally I wouldn't let anybody prune the vine,

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except me and my deputy.

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I feel slightly queasy cutting a 250-year-old vine.

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-Oh, tough as old boots.

-Here we go.

-There we are, an expert already.

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Jill, do you know, in all the years that I've been

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using my Bradshaw's Guide, I don't remember before

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being guided to a living thing that is still alive today.

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Oh, what an interesting thought. Mmm.

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For the next leg of my journey, I'm boarding

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the train at Hampton Court...

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..for Surbiton...

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..where I change to travel one stop south.

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My next stop will be Esher, where I'm going to visit Claremont,

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a house which, according to Bradshaw's, "Has a melancholy

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"interest from the death of the lamented Princess Charlotte, in 1817.

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"The palace has since belonged to her husband,

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"the King of the Belgians, who subsequently appropriated it

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"to the use of the exiled King Louis Philippe,

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"who left France in 1848."

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It seems that swathes of 19th-century history are to be found

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under a single roof.

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Many pass through Esher, on the outskirts

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of London, on their way to the racecourse at Sandown Park.

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Just outside the town is Claremont House,

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built in the late 18th century for Sir Robert Clive of India.

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He commissioned the famous landscape architect Capability Brown

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to position the house in a remodelled park.

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Since the 1930s, it's been a school and I'm meeting Pamela Rider,

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who's worked here for 27 years, to hear its intriguing history.

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-Pamela, hello.

-Hello. Nice to meet you.

-What a wonderful house.

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I had no idea it existed.

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Yes, aren't we lucky? It's really wonderful.

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Please come inside. I'll show you some wonderful parts.

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In 1816, Claremont House was given as a wedding gift to

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Princess Charlotte, the granddaughter of the reigning monarch, George III,

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and daughter of his regent, George IV,

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on her marriage to the German Prince Leopold.

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Pamela, I never saw a classroom with such beautiful decor.

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What was this room at one time?

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It was the bedroom, in 1816, of Princess Charlotte,

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and Princess Charlotte and Prince Leopold of Saxe-Coburg

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had moved here on their marriage.

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Then she gets pregnant and the birth was to occur in this very bedroom.

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Yes, she went into labour on the 3rd of November,

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and the birth went on and on, and it took 50 hours.

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Eventually, the baby was born, but it was stillborn

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and, very unexpectedly, during the night, Charlotte died.

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So in one night, Prince Leopold had lost, not only his wife, but his son

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and his reason for being in England, which was to be the prince consort.

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What was the impact on the British public of this double tragedy?

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They were devastated.

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Everybody put black armbands on, everybody suddenly had cups

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and saucers with black round them,

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the churches were full of mourning at the time of the funeral.

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Now, what impact does that have on British history,

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on the history of the monarchy?

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Oh, enormous, because suddenly we have no proper heir to the throne.

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Since Charlotte had been an only child, the line passing through

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her father, the Prince Regent and future George IV, came to an end.

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The pressure came on to the other children of George III

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to provide an heir.

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All George III's children,

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he had 12 of them still living at that time,

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but none of them had legitimate heirs,

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so all the princes and the princesses have got to get married.

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And the Duke of Kent, who is the fourth son,

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had in fact got a mistress out in Brussels whom he'd had for 28 years.

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He was extremely happy with her,

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but he agreed that he, too, would find a wife

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and Leopold suggested that he might marry his widowed sister,

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Victoire of Meiningen, and the child that was born was Victoria.

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It's absolutely amazing to think that, in this room,

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the history of England changed.

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If Charlotte had not died, Victoria would never have been conceived,

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and we would never have had the Victorian era.

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In the middle of the 19th century,

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another remarkable chapter was to unfold at Claremont House.

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25 years after the French Revolution,

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the monarchy had been re-established in France.

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However, in 1848, further unrest caused King Louis Philippe,

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and his wife Queen Marie-Amelie, to flee for their lives.

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They made it to British shores, and were offered Claremont House

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as a safe haven.

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All the sons came as well and their children.

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I don't know how they all packed in.

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There were 70 of them

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and so they had to make this into their dining room.

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-So they all ate in here.

-Does Louis Philippe live in the house for long?

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Not really, because he dies within two years.

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I think he's very much a broken man.

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And then, where was he buried?

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That's a very extraordinary story, really,

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because his wife, Marie-Amelie, wanted him

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to be buried on Catholic ground,

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which was quite difficult round here,

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but there was a Roman Catholic living in Weybridge,

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called Charles Taylor, and he had built himself a little chapel,

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with a vault underneath where he was going to have his family buried

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and he offered this vault to the Orleans family and so, actually,

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amazingly, the last King of the French was buried in Weybridge.

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This house has astonished me.

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How often on my travels have I talked about the Victorian age?

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And yet, had it not been for the death of Charlotte,

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the forgotten princess, Victoria would not have reigned.

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She might not even have been conceived

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and we'd be talking instead about the Charlottian era.

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But, as it is, I don't suppose that

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there's one British person in a thousand who's ever heard of her.

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My overnight stop is going to be Wimbledon.

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Bradshaw's mentions the Rose And Crown.

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It won't be a palace like Hampton Court or Claremont,

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but it can be a rose for Charlotte, and a crown for Victoria.

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The station is a busy interchange between rail,

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London Underground and tram services.

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Wimbledon town surrounds the station,

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and in the old village up the hill, I find the Rose And Crown.

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The earliest recorded mention of this coach inn is 1659,

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and I just imagine it then, it would have been maybe the first stop

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for travellers out of London, going down to Southampton or Portsmouth.

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And now it's become a local pub in a highly populated area,

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and the main reason for that change - the railways.

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It's a new day and I'm leaving my hotel,

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headed towards one of the most famous green spaces in the country.

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Not the All England Lawn Tennis Club, but Wimbledon Common.

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Today it's a favourite place for dog walkers

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and the setting for The Wombles' adventures.

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But in previous centuries, it witnessed more violent activity.

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"Wimbledon," says Bradshaw's,

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"Was formerly celebrated in the annals of duelling, which has

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"now become synonymous with our notions of such killing being murder.

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"And like many other customs of uncivilised beings,

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"is now condemned."

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I can scarcely imagine peering down the barrel of a gun into

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another man's hating eyes, or indeed, squeezing the trigger in cold blood.

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Duelling became established in the late 16th century as a way for

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the upper classes to resolve personal disputes and to defend reputations.

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Adherence to a very particular code of conduct was held to set them

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apart from their social inferiors.

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I'm meeting Professor Clive Emsley

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of the Open University.

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Clive, good to see you.

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My Bradshaw's celebrates the fact that duelling has

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become beyond the pale.

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Was it quite a problem? Had it become quite an epidemic?

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I wouldn't say it was an epidemic, but it was

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something that gentlemen did.

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Was Wimbledon, then, a favourite place for this?

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Wimbledon Common was unquestionably a favourable spot

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and even prime ministers fought to the north of the common.

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William Pitt the Younger fought a duel here in 1798.

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So, were people killed in these duels

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or did gentlemen just meet and call it a day?

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Very often, it was enough for a gentleman to appear,

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and sometimes they fired their pistols in the air.

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But nonetheless there were fatalities.

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Oh, there were fatalities, yeah.

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What was the most celebrated duel?

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Probably the one that's stuck in everyone's mind was

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Lord Cardigan against Captain Tuckett in 1840,

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Lord Cardigan being the man who led the Light Brigade at Balaclava.

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And what was the cause of their dispute?

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Tuckett had written a few articles critical of Cardigan.

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I mean, Cardigan was the worst kind of snob

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and if you crossed Cardigan you are really asking for trouble.

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THUNDER ROLLS

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RAIN FALLS

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Once challenged to the duel,

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Captain Tuckett met with Earl Cardigan on Wimbledon Common.

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In accordance with etiquette, each was accompanied by his second.

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They were armed with duelling pistols of equal match.

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Gentlemen, I design to resolve the affair in this manner.

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Then you'll each take six good paces, turn and fire.

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One,

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two,

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three,

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four,

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five,

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six.

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Cardigan shot and wounded Captain Tuckett.

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I've hit my man.

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Cardigan was charged with intent to murder,

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but acquitted on a technicality.

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The fact that he was arrested showed that public attitudes were changing.

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Subsequent trial verdicts, alongside pressure from Queen Victoria,

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put an end to the practice.

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By the 1850s, the duel was as good as dead.

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Back at Wimbledon Station, I'm taking a train a little further west,

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to Teddington, which, like Wimbledon, is a leafy Outer London suburb.

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What makes us civilised?

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Is it literature, architecture, institutions of government,

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maybe liberty, or fairness?

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As I hope to discover when I leave this train at Teddington,

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it dawned on the Victorians quite late

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that one of the marks of civilisation might be the way a society treated

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people with special needs.

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As I leave the train,

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I'm making my way to an institution built at the time of my Bradshaw's

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by a Victorian Reformer, John Langdon Down,

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and his wife, Mary.

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He was a distinguished physician, who, in 1858, took up

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a post in the then unpopular and ostracised field of mental health,

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becoming Medical Superintendent of the Earlswood Asylum in Surrey.

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The first to classify the condition now known as Down's syndrome,

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he revolutionised the treatment of those with learning disabilities

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and, in 1868, built his own facility here at Normansfield.

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I'm meeting Ian Jones-Healey,

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the archivist of the Langdon Down Museum,

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which is housed here.

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-Hello, Ian.

-Hello there.

-Very good to see you.

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Ian, first of all, I have to ask

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about this extraordinary model of the ship.

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This was created by James Henry Pullen,

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who was a resident at the Royal Earlswood Asylum

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when John Langdon Down was working there.

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And although James Henry Pullen had certain difficulties

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with hearing and speech,

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he was able to make three-dimensional models

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from very little information, perhaps a picture in the

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Illustrated London News, so he created the Great Eastern,

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which the original was

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built by Isambard Kingdom Brunel of Millwall on the banks of the Thames.

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Yes, it's a remarkable, a splendid piece of work, isn't it?

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In the 19th century,

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what are the attitudes towards people with learning difficulties?

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Certainly for the upper middle classes

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and upper classes sometimes it could be a matter of shame

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and people could be kept very much in secret.

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What was the new approach that John Langdon Down brought?

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Well, he set up a revolutionary institution here.

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He took people mostly from the upper classes

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because he had to have an income.

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He didn't have any state funding and he decided that

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the whole regime should be much more enlightened.

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You should be dressed properly, you should have good food to eat,

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you should have stimulation, you should have walks that you could

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go out on and, I think, most of all, you should have some

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form of education, and perhaps learn a trade,

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if you wanted to or were able to.

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Can you give me an example of how

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patients benefitted from this approach?

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Well, they would have had a lifestyle that was,

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as far as possible, almost like a home from home.

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Mary Arnott is an example of somebody that came to

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live at Normansfield.

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She lived into her late 50s,

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which was quite rare in that time for somebody with her condition.

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I think that's testament, may be, to the

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quality of life that she was enjoying here.

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I didn't know about John Langdon Down.

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Have we forgotten about him?

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I think we're probably rediscovering him.

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I think he stands next to some of the great Victorian reformers

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of the period, somebody that really wanted to

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improve the lives of people with disabilities, and certainly did so.

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In the 1950s, Normansfield became part of the National Health Service

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and in 1997, it closed as a hospital.

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Today, in a wing of the original building,

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is the Langdon Down Centre, home of the Down's Syndrome Association,

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which provides workshops, drama groups

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and a support network for people with Down's syndrome.

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One of John Langdon Down's legacies is the beautiful Victorian playhouse,

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which is listed, and here I meet Kate Powell.

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-Hello, Kate.

-Hello.

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-I'm Michael.

-Hi.

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How long have you been coming to work at the association?

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I've been coming here for 15 years.

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I get involved in giving talks, I get involved in big meetings

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and AGMs, and I always get involved in any kind of raising awareness

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for people with Down's syndrome.

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And here you are, clutching a magazine...

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-Yes.

-..of which you are the editor.

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I am. This is the Down2Earth magazine.

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-Thank you very much.

-This is what I do.

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What sort of things are in it and how does it all work?

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It all works with people's letters, they also do art,

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creative art, poetry, they also put in people's photography.

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It's a very fine magazine,

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and I gather you have made a speech at the United Nations, is that true?

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-It is true.

-What were you speaking about?

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I was speaking about a project called WorkFit.

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It encourages people to be in the world of work.

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How did you feel speaking to the United Nations?

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Proud, I felt very proud.

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And what about nervous?

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No, I wasn't nervous at all.

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-Not nervous?

-Never!

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What do you think of the work that John Langdon Down did?

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Well, the work that he did encouraged people with

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learning disabilities and Down's syndrome, he loved people,

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he helped people, with his work,

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and I think he was a very good man.

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Excellent, thank you very much indeed.

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Perhaps it's not surprising that Princess Charlotte

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has been largely forgotten.

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She died at a young age and the era in which she would have reigned

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has become inextricably linked to her cousin, Queen Victoria.

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It's harder to understand that, whilst we remember reformers

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like William Wilberforce and Lord Shaftesbury,

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few of us could name a man who was a visionary

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and a pioneer in the field of disability.

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The time has come to add

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the name of John Langdon Down to the Victorian roll of honour.

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Next time, I attempt to pull my weight on the River Thames...

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-Push on the legs, hands right.

-Sorry, I've lost it completely.

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..discover the radical implications

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of one of the country's first universities for women...

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I think it really was a starting point.

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By having an education, by having a choice, they demanded other choices.

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..and let off some steam at a vintage funfair.

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HE LAUGHS

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Oh! This is horrible! Oh! Enough! Enough!

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