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The only thing that every adult in Scotland has in common is that | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
each and every one of us shared a childhood. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
How we were raised shaped not just us, but our nation. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
Over the last century, childhood has changed dramatically, | 0:00:25 | 0:00:30 | |
from where and how children play | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
to their chances of even surviving to adulthood. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
And our strongest collective memory is our time at Scottish schools. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
From the remotest corners of the country... | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
..to our largest cities... | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
..a Scottish education has always reflected | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
the changing face of our country. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
And as individuals and a nation, | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
our experience behind the school gates has always been a vital part | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
of who we are and who we are going to be. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
This afternoon, we are broadcasting a talk by Sir William McKechnie, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
former permanent secretary of the Scottish Education Department. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
Children of Scotland, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
it is a great thing to be a Scot | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
and it is a great thing to be taught in our Scottish schools. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:46 | |
You have inherited a great tradition, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
you must prove yourselves worthy of it. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
That, children of Scotland, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
is the part you have to play as world citizens. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
If you play it well, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:00 | |
you may rest assured that the fame of Scotland | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
shall continue to be great among the nations. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:09 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
680,000 pupils | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
taught by over 50,000 teachers | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
in Scotland's 2,500 schools. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
An educational system that was once considered | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
the finest and fairest in the world. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
It all began in the 16th century, | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
with the architect of Scotland's Protestant Reformation, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
John Knox. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:49 | |
This is the Book of Discipline, which is, you could argue, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:56 | |
the foundation charter of the Protestant Reformation in Scotland. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:01 | |
Written in the 1540s. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:02 | |
But what is particularly interesting is the sections on education, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:07 | |
because they have gone down in history as the basis for what | 0:03:07 | 0:03:13 | |
eventually became an educational revolution. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
"Of necessity, therefore, we judge it | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
"that every several church have a schoolmaster appointed, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
"that in every notable town there be erected a college in which the arts, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:29 | |
"at least logic and rhetoric, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
"together with the tongues, be read by sufficient masters, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
"for whom honest stipends must be appointed." | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
The formulation of the Book of Discipline gave Scotland | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
one of the first national educational systems, to ensure that | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
in the 900-odd parishes of Scotland, there would be | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
a schoolmaster, a schoolhouse, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
and the people were expected to send their children to it. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
Added to this religious tradition | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
came a drive for universal improvement | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
from the 18th-century Scottish Enlightenment, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
to create an education system that was celebrated around the world. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
You have people like | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
De Remusat, a great French philosopher, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
saying that the working classes in Scotland were educated to a degree | 0:04:14 | 0:04:19 | |
beyond anything he had ever come across in Europe. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
And that was a badge of pride for Scots of every class. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
Certainly, by the beginning of the 19th century, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
you could point to a universality of provision in Scotland. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
Every parish had some kind of school | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
and every school had some kind of | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
reasonably well-qualified dominie or teacher. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:47 | |
Girls could go to school, so every child within that school | 0:04:47 | 0:04:52 | |
had the opportunity to get the kind of education that Knox had outlined. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
-It was an important part of the Scottish brand. -Scotland was | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
undeniably superior to England, at that stage. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
If you are in bed with an elephant, as Scotland was, in relation | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
to a much more influential power, militarily, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
economically and politically, if you are in bed with an elephant, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
you strive to find out, as the junior partner, | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
ways in which you are their equal | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
or superior. And one area was education. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
But, by the mid-19th century, the parochial school system, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
a badge of national identity that had given Scots such | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
an educational head start over much of the world, began to collapse. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
The new industrial age saw the working poor | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
leave the village parish schools behind | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
and pour into the factories of Scotland's new cities. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
It was no longer enough to just educate people | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
to read the Bible, because you had to educate people to take part, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
as workers in the new industrial economy of the capitalist period | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
of the 19th century. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
And there was especially big problems in the cities, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
because of the huge expansion in Scottish urbanisation, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
plus of course, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:05 | |
there was the arrival of the Irish Catholic | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
and Protestant immigrants, particularly the Irish Catholic | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
immigrant group, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:13 | |
coming from a society where there was profound levels of illiteracy. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
The upheaval of the 19th century | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
played havoc with the Scottish school system. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
Once the pride of the nation, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
it was now under-resourced and poorly attended. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
In 1872, the state decided to act. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
All of Scotland's children would now be legally required to attend school | 0:06:34 | 0:06:39 | |
between the ages of five and 13, and locally-elected school boards, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:44 | |
backed with public funds, would be tasked with modernising education. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
To accommodate this new influx of students, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
the school boards started building - on a monumental scale. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
If you look around, not just the urban landscape of Scotland, | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
many of the small towns, as well, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
you can still see the schools that were built in that | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
enormous building boom of schools | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
between 1872 and the turn of the 19th into the 20th centuries. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:11 | |
The foundations for a new educational landscape had been set | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
in stone and one of the first examples can still be found | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
in an area that was one of Scotland's poorest of the period. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
This is Tureen Street school, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:24 | |
in the Calton district of Glasgow's East End. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
It's a remarkable building, isn't it? | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
They are built to make a statement, and I think this statement is, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
"Bring your children here. We will house them | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
"and we will also civilise them"! So, the immediate demand, I think, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:40 | |
became to provide decent, proper schools for everybody. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:45 | |
There was a great deal of urgency about it, I think. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
These schools were built to hold up to 1,200 pupils, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
but Tureen Street was extended in 1884 and 1902, to cope | 0:07:52 | 0:07:58 | |
with the increasing numbers. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
And such was the immense demand, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
Glasgow School Board had to build another, even bigger, school | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
just a stone's throw away. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:08 | |
Here is another school, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
St James's Public School, within, what, 100 yards? | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
Although they are two separate schools, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
in many ways, they are making a very similar statement about the kind | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
of relationship they have with the community around them. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
It is almost like | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
a citadel fortress looming over the neighbourhood. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
It was a school for the public, but it is reminding the public | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
exactly who they are in relationship | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
to the education board that has provided it. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
They were, if you like, temples to learning - | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
that is putting it positively - or temples to social control. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
If you teach people in schools to be obedient, to follow rules, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
to turn up on time, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:46 | |
then you are teaching them also to be obedient workers | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
in a capitalist industrial economy. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
For the first time, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
the children of the urban poor were gathered together under one roof, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
and soon, the condition of those children became all too apparent. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
The future Labour MP, James Maxton, | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
was a teacher at St James's Public School. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
He was asked to take an exercise class | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
and was appalled at what he saw. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
"30 out of 60 youngsters could not bring both heels and knees together, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:21 | |
"because of rickety malformations." | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
The poverty of the era did not stop at the school gates. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
Now that needy children had been gathered together in one place, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
the authorities took the opportunity to make a meaningful change. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:39 | |
So what you find from round about the period of 1905 to 1908 | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
is the beginning of a child welfare programme, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
the beginnings of things like free milk being provided to children, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
subsidised meals, as well. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
The schooling in Scotland | 0:09:52 | 0:09:53 | |
became almost a precursor of what eventually | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
happened after 1945 - the development of the welfare state. | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
'Health authorities and educationists combined | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
'to look after the health of every child. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
'They arranged for children whose parents were hard up | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
'to get a free meal every day.' | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
There was quite a poverty. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
At 12 o'clock every day, there was a bell that rang and... | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
..certain children rose and just went out. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
That was the beginning of the school meals. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
'Milk has great body-building properties, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
'and the daily issue in the schoolroom helps to balance any | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
'irregularities in the child's normal diet.' | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
When they brought your crate up into your classroom, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
and everybody just went and... | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
When it came to interval time, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:42 | |
you would collect your bottle of milk and your wee straw. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:47 | |
My mother told me, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
the reason I was a foot taller than my father | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
was because of school milk. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:52 | |
'Medical examinations, like Scholastic ones, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
'are regular things in the life of every schoolchild.' | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
All these things were regarded as a necessary part of education policy, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
because unless we could equalise the living conditions of pupils, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
then there would never be true equality of opportunity | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
in the school system. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:12 | |
There was one further issue of equality to be addressed in early | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
20th-century education. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
STRUMMING GUITAR, CHILDREN SINGING | 0:11:18 | 0:11:23 | |
An issue that still polarises opinion today. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:28 | |
Separate and state-funded schools | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
for the children of Roman Catholic parents. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
Like here, in Notre Dame School in Glasgow's West End. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
We are a state school. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
Glasgow City Council, they provided this school for us. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
But Catholic schools have always got that special link | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
with their local parish. It is at the heart of everything that we do | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
and that is the beauty of being in a school, a faith school. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
Not all of the children in the school are Catholic. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
Most are, but not all. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
But parents choose the school because they like the ethos | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
of the school and they know that we promote Gospel values | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
and they see that that is something that would be important | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
to their children's upbringing. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
-ALL: -In the name of the Father | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
THEY CONTINUE TO PRAY | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
By 1918, there were 450,000 Catholics in Scotland. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:25 | |
Their children had often felt unwelcome in the system provided | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
by the Protestant Kirk. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
And despite paying taxes towards the new state system, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
Catholics deliberately exiled themselves from it | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
and chose to attend their own separate schools. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
The children of Catholic families in the 1920s and earlier can, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
by and large, be thought of as the children of an immigrant group. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
Historically, there was no way | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
the Catholic community in Scotland | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
didn't deserve its own education system, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
because they were a people under siege. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
They were beleaguered, they were persecuted. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
I mean, in many ways, the Kirk was the kind of Ukip of the day. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
I mean, it opposed this Irish influx. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
They probably wouldn't have been tolerated in the local, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
so-called, public schools. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:17 | |
So a distinctive Catholic elementary system continued until the early | 0:13:17 | 0:13:22 | |
1920s and that was supported | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
by the Catholic people of the period | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
through fundraising, etc. And, of course, at the same time, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
they had to pay the educational rate. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
It meant, despite that courageous stand, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
it meant that gradually, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:39 | |
the standards in these schools were inferior. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
In 1918, a new education act offered Scotland's Catholics a fairer share | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
of the country's resources. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
The 1918 Act gave extraordinary generous provision | 0:13:51 | 0:13:56 | |
for the continuation of Catholic instruction in schools, | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
and above all, to give the Catholic Church a veto | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
on the appointment of schoolteachers. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
Nothing like it happened | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
in any other Protestant country in Europe at the time. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
There was a lot of Protestant ill feeling | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
towards a system of education which might have to provide | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
on the rates for the education of Catholic children. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
You get not only murmurings, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
but protest from some extremist speakers | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
about "Rome on the rates", | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
and so, that is the reason why, down to this very day, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
at least in the view of many, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
the denominational educational system which, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
you could argue, should be lauded, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:40 | |
because of the way the state responded to the needs of a poor | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
and disadvantaged part of the community, is controversial. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:48 | |
For some, the policy of separating children | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
according to the religion of their parents was hard to take. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
I remember disliking very much the split, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
that I didn't see the girls from across the road | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
any more that I'd played with when I was four. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
'These are Protestant children in their playground.' | 0:15:05 | 0:15:10 | |
After we went to primary school, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:11 | |
we never really played with each other again. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
'And here are the Catholic children in their playground.' | 0:15:14 | 0:15:19 | |
Really awful. Incredibly divisive. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
And of course, our school wasn't a Protestant school, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
it was just a non-denominational school, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
but the non-denominational schools in central Lanarkshire | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
were just called "the Proddie school" and everybody knew it. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
'Segregation at school, often until the end of their school days, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
'creates in young minds a feeling of separateness that remains for life.' | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
And I do think they should really have tackled that, | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
because I think sectarianism, that is what the legacy of it is. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:52 | |
A lot came from being brought up in different schools | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
and treating each other as enemies. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
# And Jesus said you must love one another... # | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
They are often described by critics nowadays as being divisive, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:10 | |
but in fact, the main social role which the Catholic schools played | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
was to integrate Catholics into a common identity, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
a common education system, and the long-term effect of that | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
is that there is no longer any difference | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
in employment opportunities between children of Catholic backgrounds | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
and children of non-Catholic backgrounds. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
But for the increasing number of parents | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
with no religious affiliation, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
the division of Scotland's children remains controversial. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
Militant secularism is probably now more a threat to that system | 0:16:39 | 0:16:45 | |
than Protestant sectarianism and bigotry, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
which is, in my view, slowly dying out. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
I think those that were against the system | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
are crying or whistling in the wind. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
If the parents agreed to the process happening, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
that is not a problem. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:01 | |
But if there was any attempt to impose a dissolution | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
of those schools, then I think it would create outrage. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
While Scotland's schools have retained | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
the religious divisions of 1918, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
their classrooms are often 21st-century. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
So you would go into your log-in, and I'll just put my log-in quickly. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
There I am, there. That's my avatar. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
And, in this top bit up here, you can choose your maths, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
your reading or your writing. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
But their parents and grandparents had no such freedoms | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
and endured the strictest of environments. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
It is a story of ordinary children having to submit themselves | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
from nine o'clock in the morning to four o'clock in the afternoon, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
day after day, to the kind of education | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
which was possible under the economic circumstances | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
of a mass provision, and that is regimentation, discipline. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:01 | |
The desks were all in, kind of, serried rows, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
the teacher, kind of, marauded up and down, like on a stage. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:11 | |
There was no nonsense tolerated. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
There was very little fun in the classroom. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
The teacher would write on the blackboard, two or three times, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
the same thing. "June is the month of roses," I remember that so much. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:25 | |
And this was called cursive writing. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
CHILDREN RECITE LESSON | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
There is a great poem by Alexander Scott, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
a series of little poems that he wrote, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
and his one on Scottish education just goes, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
"A telt ye. A telt ye." | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
So, that was the ideal in Scottish education, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
the teacher telling you and you learning, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
and don't give any feedback. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
Tell me the names of six towns in the County of Midlothian. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:58 | |
-ALL: -Edinburgh, Leith, Portobello, Musselburgh and Dalkeith... | 0:18:58 | 0:19:04 | |
One of the non-glories | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
of Scottish education, compared to others in Western Europe, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
is that it was very authoritarian. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
You weren't allowed to talk, no. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
You couldn't speak, not even to the person sitting beside you. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
It was complete silence. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
That was very strict, very strict. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
The least achieving pupils | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
would sit right there under the teacher's desk. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
Which I think taught children | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
that the way they should see themselves is | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
as beings to be licked into shape and to be regimented, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
and of course, not all children took to that at all. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
I was bored. And I think a lot of the kids were. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
So my memories of Scottish education | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
are not actually very happy or stimulated. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:53 | |
It puzzles me, because I know that, at the time I was a wee boy, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
Scotland was supposedly famed for its education, | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
so in a sense, school was something you had to get through. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:06 | |
There is a practical reason, of course. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
I mean, how else can you teach and keep control | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
over as many as 60 children without having, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
I think, a fairly strict regime? | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
Because the teacher, of course, had the power of summary execution, | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
by reason of the tawse. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
The stiflingly strict atmosphere in Scotland's schools was enforced | 0:20:24 | 0:20:30 | |
by the use of a thick leather whip. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
Known as the tawse, it left its mark on generations of pupils. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:38 | |
I can remember being afraid to go to school. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
You would be called out to the front, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
with your two hands together like this. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
Cross your hands. Cross your hands. Cross your hands. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
And it was terrifying. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:50 | |
I just think it is absolutely appalling to think that we would | 0:20:50 | 0:20:56 | |
hit children with a belt like this. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
It is just incredible to think there was actually a production line | 0:20:59 | 0:21:04 | |
producing these, so that teachers would always have one. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
For years, these leather straps were seen as an essential part | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
of the teacher's trade. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
And near the small town of Lochgelly, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
the leather works that supplied more than any other | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
is still operational today. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
I'm Margaret Dick, daughter of John Dick | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
and granddaughter of George Dick, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
who are well known for the Lochgelly tawse, for manufacturing it. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
It's just part of the history of my family | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
and, like it or lump it, I'm stuck with that. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
There you are. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
That's my Lochgelly. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
I used that. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
I did use it. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:50 | |
Just mark the shape of it... | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
The threat of physical violence was present in schools, | 0:21:56 | 0:22:01 | |
but then it was present in families, it was present in communities, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
it was present through the church. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
The schools simply saw themselves as reproducing that, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
that ethics were to be instilled partly by the threat of violence. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
The culture of the society completely accepted this. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
The parents were all for it. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
If I went home and said I was getting the strap, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
my mum would want to know why. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
And that was worse! | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
That was worse than the teacher. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
We are edging it now, which is taking the sharp edge off, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
because obviously, we want to hurt the hand with the tawse, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
but we don't want to damage it, make it bleed. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
Corporal punishment was actually used | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
not only for reasons of disciplining, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
but also for academic reasons. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
There is plenty of evidence | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
that if you failed to gain a certain mark, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
then the belt would be produced. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
Some teachers would belt people that had more than three spellings wrong, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:04 | |
so, you know, the idea of how dyslexic kids would have got on | 0:23:04 | 0:23:09 | |
in those days, they must have ended up | 0:23:09 | 0:23:10 | |
with hatred of education, I would think. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
For most, an appointment with the Lochgelly tawse | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
meant a day of discomfort. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
But for others, there could be far more serious consequences. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
I got belted one day for spelling Canada with a small C, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
and it led to a, kind of, mini breakdown, | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
it was almost like a mental breakdown. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
The consequence of which was, I became almost... | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
Well, withdrawn would be one way to put it. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
I missed a couple of years of school. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
And that is a Lochgelly tawse. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
Another consequence of the expansion of education was an increase | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
in demand for secondary schools. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
Nowadays, it is taken for granted that pupils move from primary | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
to a senior school, but before the turn of the century, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
secondary education was the preserve of the few, not the many. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:15 | |
Previously, secondary schooling was available only in some cities | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
and only for quite well-off, middle-class children. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
That was felt to be unfair, on the grounds that it was available | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
only to people who were rich. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
And as the working classes and the generality of | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
the population became more and more aspirational, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
the education system had to respond to that. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
But when secondary schools were provided for Scotland's children, | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
the assumption was that it wasn't a right, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
but a privilege, for the clever few. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
The governing assumption, | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
both politically and among educational administrators, | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
was that only a relatively small proportion of | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
the population had the ability to go on to what was called, at that time, | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
higher grade schools. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
There was a, kind of, almost anthropological belief | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
that talent was rationed out in any society. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
By the 1930s, a two-tier system | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
of junior and senior secondary schools was well established. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:18 | |
A qualifying exam would allocate pupils, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
according to academic merit. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
A pass or a fail, deciding the fate for generations of Scots. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
'Here are some of the questions that now decide | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
'the Scottish child's immediate future. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
'Could you answer them correctly?' | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
Why do steel warships float? | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
Because steel is lighter than water? | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
Because steel is heavier than water? | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
Because they are full of air? | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
'On the basis of these marks, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:50 | |
'the pupil goes to an appropriate secondary course.' | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
As one educational historian put it, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
that system was the sieving of the working class. | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
Obviously, the 11 Plus favoured articulate kids | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
who came from articulate, well-educated families. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
They were virtually bound to, kind of, walk in. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
And the rest were left | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
as the rude mechanicals, as it were! | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
Everybody was sort of pigeonholed. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
I mean, the lower classes weren't allowed to take a language. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
Things like that. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
CHILD READS IN FRENCH | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
So, people's entire life course was determined by this qualifying exam, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:30 | |
taken at round about the age of 11 or 12. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:35 | |
Nowadays, you've got colleges | 0:26:35 | 0:26:36 | |
where you can go and pick up Highers and things, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
but then, it more or less condemned you to a certain type | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
of educational oblivion. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
One of the things we have learned, I think, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
in educational research and policy over the last 100 years | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
is that people's rate of maturing varies enormously. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:57 | |
That if you decide that there is a fixed point in somebody's life | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
in which their destiny is determined, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
then you're going to be wrong. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
I would condemn Scottish education | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
for imbuing kids with a real sense of failure. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
One of the reasons why there is very little opposition to | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
the comprehensive system in Scotland, compared with England, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
where it is still highly controversial, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
is because of that knowledge of what the 11 Plus system did to a couple | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
of generations of children, and the parents of the current generation, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
and the grandparents of the current generation, remember that. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
A further weakness in Scottish education was the question of | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
just how Scottish it actually was. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
That no amount of country dancing would atone for the absence | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
of the country's own literature and history. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
I think the paradox is that, | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
although Scottish education was said to be Scottish, | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
it was actually working to a British Imperial model. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:06 | |
If you are wanting an education system which gives pupils the chance | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
to rise to the top, and that top meant a British top, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:16 | |
you had to think to emphasise a non-Scottish curriculum. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:21 | |
The priority was always seen as helping children to get on | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
within a British context. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
And the way to get on in the high noon of union, | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
the high noon of unionism, was through the British route. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
If you want to find out about Scottish history, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
you do it in your own free time, your private time, | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
but it is not seen to be fit and appropriate | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
for systematic educational purposes. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
The claim is often made that the Scottish curriculum lacks | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
Scottish content, in the sense of paying attention | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
to explicitly Scottish topics. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:50 | |
Actually, that is a bit of a misrepresentation. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
'Here, the ground is being prepared for a lesson on Scottish history.' | 0:28:52 | 0:28:57 | |
But they were not the kinds of content | 0:28:57 | 0:28:58 | |
that we regard as, perhaps, acceptable today. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
They tended to be quite conservative elements of Scottish culture. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
-RADIO: -'This is the Scottish Home Service for schools. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
'Stories from Scottish history. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
'Last week, we heard how Mary Queen of Scots | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
'was taken prisoner by her nobles...' | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
What we have in this period is the hybrid identity of Scottishness | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
and Britishness, but in terms of formal education, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
it was overwhelmingly British. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
One of the great tensions is between the culture of the home | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
and the immediate community and the type of standardised, | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
centralised culture of the school system, | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
and often at the centre of that, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:36 | |
particularly in Scotland, is language. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
One of the ironies of an Ayrshire education in the 1950s | 0:29:38 | 0:29:43 | |
was that you got a prize one day of the year | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
for reciting Rabbie Burns' poetry, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
and then you were likely to get the belt the other 364 days | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
for speaking his language. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
So, very little status was given | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
to the vernacular that the majority brought to the classroom. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
I remember one guy, an inspector came to the school | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
and he was dead keen to answer a question. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
He stuck up his hand, the teacher... | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
He said, "I don't ken." | 0:30:07 | 0:30:08 | |
When the inspector left, he got the belt. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
You don't say "ken" to the inspector. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
He got belted for it. And he was being enthusiastic, you know. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:19 | |
You learned from a very early age that to speak Scots | 0:30:19 | 0:30:24 | |
was almost like sticking your tongue out at the teacher, | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
it was giving cheek, and you could be belted for it. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
Some people switched off, I think, from education because of that, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
because their culture was given no status whatsoever. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
Attitudes are slowly changing | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
on the use of the Scots language in the classroom. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
Right, folks. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
Today we're going to have a look at Gary Robertson's Gangs Of Dundee. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
Here at Morgan Academy in Dundee, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
the English Department has placed the Scots language | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
at the centre of their teaching. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
HE READS IN SCOTS | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
So I've been in primary schools | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
where the class teacher will confidently say, | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
"I've nae Scots speakers," because they don't speak Scots in front | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
of the teacher, but when you actually speak to the bairns, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
they are Scots speakers, they just have hidden that. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
And that has almost been a learned response over generations. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:17 | |
"Scots isn't right in the classroom, so we don't use it." | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
HE READS IN SCOTS | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
It's about time we realised we are not a monolingual nation, really. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:29 | |
There's very, very few folk that just have English. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
Folk, at least, have an understanding of Scots. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
Like, so, "affy" means really. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
Right? "Are we really daft?" | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
But "ower" is more like "too", so what do you think? | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
The idea that you had to be a monolingual English speaker, | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
educationally, we now know that that was a wrong attitude, | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
but it was ingrained in a lot of Scottish teachers | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
that for the children to get on, they would have to be less Scottish. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:57 | |
If you are in Scotland, sure, you should learn Scottish stuff. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:02 | |
The campaign to normalise the use of the Scots language | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
is in its infancy compared with Gaelic. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:12 | |
Here in Tiree, the local school now provides | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
for both English and Gaelic speaking pupils | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
in their own preferred language. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
SHE SPEAKS GAELIC | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
In days gone by, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:27 | |
Scotland's remotest island communities | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
felt themselves being pulled apart | 0:32:30 | 0:32:31 | |
by the competing cultural forces in their schools. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:36 | |
I was brought up here | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
and I was constantly hearing stories in Gaelic, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
and songs, rhymes, recitations. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
In the community too, it was Gaelic that was spoken. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:49 | |
Donald Meek was raised in Tiree in the 1950s, | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
a time when, despite the majority of pupils here | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
speaking their native tongue, | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
their schooling was to be conducted in the foreign language | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
that was English. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
I remember my first day at school only too well. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
I can remember being left there by my mother | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
and going into this large classroom. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
We had no Gaelic teaching whatsoever. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
It was a completely alien environment. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
'Among other things, they learn English, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
'which to them, is a foreign language.' | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
-ALL RECITE: -As if her song could have no ending, | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
I saw her singing at her work... | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
It was like being in a little island of English in an ocean of Gaelic. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:41 | |
One of the things that you learn pretty quickly when you are trying | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
to learn English was you were a product for export. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:50 | |
The whole education system was particularly geared to make | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
the brightest, as the education system saw it, | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
move away from the island. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
'But there's not half the number of children here now | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
'that there were when we were at school. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
'That is because so many of our folks | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
'have left the crofts and gone away to the towns.' | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
For Donald, the language and culture of his birth was more important | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
than climbing the academic ladder. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
I very well remember being prepared | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
to sit an examination which would have taken me, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:26 | |
if I had been successful, from Tiree to Oban, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
to begin secondary schooling. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
But I deliberately failed it. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
I did not want to sign my own death warrant | 0:34:36 | 0:34:41 | |
by performing well in the examination. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
I knew what was going to happen, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
so I took avoiding action | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
and I stayed here in Tiree until the age of 16, | 0:34:50 | 0:34:55 | |
and during those formative years of my early teens, | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
I learned an immense amount | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
about life on this croft and in the island. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:05 | |
TEACHER SPEAKS GAELIC | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
The new education that Gaelic children get, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
and particularly children with no Gaelic, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
were being taught to learn Gaelic. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
THEY SPEAK GAELIC | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
I see all the missing components in my own education. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:26 | |
Now, the schools are like little islands of Gaelic | 0:35:26 | 0:35:32 | |
in oceans of English. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
It's as if the whole thing has completely reversed itself. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:41 | |
It's another world. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
But it's a good world. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
From the tiniest islands to the biggest cities, | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
Scottish schools had been notorious | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
for their harsh, no-nonsense teaching. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
But in the 1950s, that began to change, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
when the old world of discipline and repetition was rebuilt | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
into a world of inclusion and imagination. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
There was an international movement, in which Scotland was actually | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
one of the leading players. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
It was what was called the New Education Movement, | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
which was to create a more child-centred kind of learning. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
'Teaching methods in all our schools | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
'have changed as much as architecture and equipment. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
'Reading and writing come more easily, for example, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
'when combined with Plasticine and play.' | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
The child was taken to be the focal point of education. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
It is difficult for us to imagine a different system now, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
because we've become so imbued with the ideas of child-centredness. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
'Nowadays, there is a bright, sunshiny touch | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
'to primary schools and schooling.' | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
Along with this new approach to teaching, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
the long division of the qualifying test finally came to an end. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:57 | |
Now, every child, regardless of perceived ability, | 0:36:59 | 0:37:03 | |
would be taught under the same roof. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
A comprehensive education was to be the new way forward. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
The scale of transformation was so rapid, | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
and it is amazing, the resilience of the system, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
that it managed to cope with it. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
I think the major reason for that was there was an awareness, | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
especially among educational administrators and many | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
enlightened teachers, that the old system wasn't simply working. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
So, the new system was welcomed. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
'Knightswood Secondary School, one of the many big new schools. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
'And in its size, design and layout | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
'can be seen the shape of things to come.' | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
So, you have the notion of the comprehensive school | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
that everybody went to. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:42 | |
And if there were to be differences, they were within the one school. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:47 | |
Bill Sweeney is a former pupil of Knightswood Secondary. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
He started in 1961, just three years after it opened | 0:37:53 | 0:37:58 | |
at the dawn of the comprehensive age. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
Brought up in a working-class household in nearby Drumchapel, | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
Bill's time here helped him on his way to become | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
a renowned composer and professor of music. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
HE PLAYS THE CLARINET | 0:38:10 | 0:38:15 | |
'The music department in Knightswood was particularly strong. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:22 | |
'It was really exciting, actually, to come here. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
'You felt as if you were going to something really sort of quite big | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
'and certainly modern, you know.' | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
It is very recognisably the same place, with the same... | 0:38:38 | 0:38:42 | |
The original buildings. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
Every so often, I definitely do get a little bit of the 1960s | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
coming jabbing back at me. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
A little bit uncanny at times. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
My parents had to leave school at 14, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
both very intelligent people, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
well-read people, who just weren't able to access education, | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
so they were absolutely all for it, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
and certainly that ideal of everyone should be educated, | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
you should get the best out of everybody, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
was still something that was built into the school | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
from when it was opened, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
that it was for everybody and not just to sort out | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
the ones that could from the ones that couldn't. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
The comprehensive ideal, perhaps you could regard as the final fulfilment | 0:39:26 | 0:39:31 | |
of the democratic ideal that was laid down in the 16th century. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:36 | |
It took some centuries to work out, but when you consider the economic | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
and democratic and social developments that had to take place, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:45 | |
maybe that is not surprising. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
By their very nature, comprehensive schools are geared | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
to provide a better standard for the majority. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
But can such a system also encourage academic excellence | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
for the top achievers? | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
We are probably doing less well now | 0:40:00 | 0:40:01 | |
for the most able students than we were in the past. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
The most able students are not stretched as far as they were | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
in the past and they don't get the same acquaintance | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
with inherited culture of the greatest kind | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
that they did in the more elite system of the past. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
But for some children, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:16 | |
there has long been another option to state-funded education. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:22 | |
We have in Scotland, from the 19th century, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
a set of endowed schools, | 0:40:24 | 0:40:25 | |
that is schools where some wealthy benefactor had left some money | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
to help establish a school. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
Often that benefactor has their name embodied in the name of the school, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
such as James Gillespie or George Heriot. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
So, private schools were set up in Scotland, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
which were based on English public schools - | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
we call them private schools - | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
so that Scottish children from middle-class backgrounds | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
would be able to make it in the British Empire. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
There continued to be an elite system of independent schools | 0:40:54 | 0:40:59 | |
in Scotland, where fees are charged to parents, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
unlike in the state system, and where there is a selection test. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
Today, just over 4% of children in Scotland attend fee-paying schools, | 0:41:07 | 0:41:12 | |
and well under a quarter of them go to boarding schools, | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
a system which traditionally starts at the age of eight. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:21 | |
-Hello, I'm Josh. -I'm Terry. -I'm Cora. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
We're going to show you around Ardvreck School today. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
Built in 1883, this is Ardvreck Prep School in Perthshire. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:32 | |
Some of our children leave home to come to board with us, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
so we have to create a home from home, when they are quite young. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
So, school becomes a way of life. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
-This is our bedroom. -This is our dorm. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
This is my bed space. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
And my bed. You get the higher up beds, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
you get three drawers and a big compartment underneath | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
to keep your stuff in. | 0:41:58 | 0:41:59 | |
My bed space. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
I stay here on Tuesday and Wednesday nights. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
It feels a bit weird that you are not seeing your family as much, | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
and you don't go home and have supper with them. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
Then, it is, kind of, basically the same, | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
just your parents up there | 0:42:12 | 0:42:13 | |
and you just have your friends the whole time. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
This is the ICT room. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
We have a six-day week. We work Saturdays. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:24 | |
We have a longer school day. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
So, this is the senior French room. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
Parents have high expectations for the children, | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
we have a high expectations of our children. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
Because people have paid for us to be here, | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
you really feel as if you've got to work hard in lessons. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
For a full boarding place at Ardvreck School, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
the fees are about £6,000 per term. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
Three terms per year. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:47 | |
It's what it costs to educate a child. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
We have just chosen to do it without involving the state. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:54 | |
Some parents can clearly afford it. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
Other parents really struggle, | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
they make huge sacrifices in their own lives, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
in order for their children to attain the education they have here. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
For those who can afford it, part of the appeal of Ardvreck | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
is its more traditional curriculum, which preserves subjects | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
which used to be commonplace in the Scots classroom. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
We do have Latin. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
It may be a surprise to some people to see Latin still on a curriculum, | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
but we also have classical literature and translation, | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
classical studies... | 0:43:24 | 0:43:25 | |
For the children themselves, | 0:43:28 | 0:43:30 | |
it is the environment and freedom Ardvreck offers | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
that is the primary attraction. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
When I was younger, I went to school in London, | 0:43:39 | 0:43:41 | |
a little primary school. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
But then you come here and you just see the difference between, | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
like, a little garden and, like, a massive, 42-acre playground. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:51 | |
There is space for everything that you want to do, | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
like, there's a playground, there's tennis, there's cricket. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
I know that we are very privileged | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
in order to have what we have to offer to our children. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:07 | |
I don't take that privilege lightly. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
We are blessed. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:11 | |
This is a business, we have to run it as a business, | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
but it is a business where children are offered | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
the best opportunities in life. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:21 | |
For the majority of children, | 0:44:23 | 0:44:25 | |
the private school experience simply isn't on the cards. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:29 | |
They rely on the state system, which, by the 1980s, | 0:44:29 | 0:44:33 | |
had been thoroughly modernised. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
But there remained one painful reminder of a draconian past. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:41 | |
I would say that the strap is a salutary and effective means | 0:44:43 | 0:44:49 | |
of maintaining discipline in a school, | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
and sparing use of it is perfectly right and proper. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
Belting children, some as young as five, was still commonplace | 0:44:55 | 0:45:01 | |
and society's support for these beatings still appeared strong. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:06 | |
'In Edinburgh, a few years ago, they tried to keep a record | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
'of how many times the strap was used in a term. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
'They got to 10,000 and, after that, they stopped counting.' | 0:45:12 | 0:45:17 | |
It didn't do me any harm. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:19 | |
As a matter of fact, it made me respect the teachers more. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:23 | |
With all due respect to the teachers, I think, most of the time, | 0:45:23 | 0:45:27 | |
I don't deserve it. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:29 | |
You got belted today, didn't you? | 0:45:29 | 0:45:31 | |
For going to the toilets and not asking the teacher if I could go. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:37 | |
We were in the hall, getting a free period. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
Do you think it is fair to get belted for that? | 0:45:39 | 0:45:42 | |
No, because you might be bursting. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:44 | |
But Scottish mother Grace Campbell was fed up | 0:45:44 | 0:45:48 | |
with the state-sanctioned violence. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:50 | |
She brought a case against the UK authorities | 0:45:50 | 0:45:53 | |
to the European Court of Human Rights, | 0:45:53 | 0:45:55 | |
and the thrashing of pupils began to be challenged. | 0:45:55 | 0:46:00 | |
My mum asked for an assurance from | 0:46:00 | 0:46:02 | |
the local education authority | 0:46:02 | 0:46:04 | |
at Strathclyde Region that my brother and myself | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
would not be belted at school. And they couldn't give that assurance. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:11 | |
They said that the law prevented it | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
and, so, it then became a question of, how do you change the law? | 0:46:13 | 0:46:17 | |
-NEWSREADER: -'The court did rule that beating children | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
'against their parents' wishes | 0:46:21 | 0:46:23 | |
'violated the Human Rights Convention.' | 0:46:23 | 0:46:25 | |
I'm very pleased with the outcome of the case | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
and I feel that a speedy implementing of the findings | 0:46:27 | 0:46:31 | |
will improve the educational environment | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
for both teachers and pupils. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:36 | |
In 1982, Grace Campbell won her case | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
and schools across Scotland would now have to enforce discipline | 0:46:40 | 0:46:45 | |
without whipping children. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:47 | |
-WHISTLE BLOWS -In twos! | 0:46:47 | 0:46:49 | |
But not everyone was behind the ban. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
The old guard, if you like, were very keen on keeping what they had, | 0:46:52 | 0:46:57 | |
and couldn't understand why anyone would want to get rid of it. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
I would imagine the public here in Scotland would view the abolition, | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
at a stroke type of abolition, with some concern. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:08 | |
There was hate mail. We had graffiti daubed on the front door. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:13 | |
We had a half brick thrown at the window. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
We were shouted at in the street. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:18 | |
It was kind of like... It was almost like we were undermining | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
social structures by just asking not to be belted at school. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:25 | |
Grace Campbell's victory had ensured the end of legalised violence | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
in schools, not only in Scotland but right across the UK. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:33 | |
Very, very proud of my mum and dad. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
And particularly now, when you think about, you know, | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
if we speak to children now, they've got no idea, and are horrified. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
I think it's to stretch out and bring things forward. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:50 | |
It's like a snake's mouth. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
-Is it... -A chocolate bar! | 0:47:53 | 0:47:57 | |
You hold a whip like the cowboys, when they go like... | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
"Go, horsey, go!" | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
-That's a whip. -No, it isn't. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
They whack people with it. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:08 | |
No, they don't. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:09 | |
One day, my mum got hit with the belt, in olden times. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:14 | |
It's nice to see that, as far as my own kids are concerned, | 0:48:14 | 0:48:19 | |
they will never be hit at school, | 0:48:19 | 0:48:20 | |
and that, I think, my mum would be really happy about, | 0:48:20 | 0:48:23 | |
if she was still here. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
Scottish education had long been a political football, | 0:48:25 | 0:48:29 | |
never more so than in the 1980s, when a former UK Education Secretary | 0:48:29 | 0:48:34 | |
declared war on Scottish teachers and their unions. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
-NEWSREADER: -'Mrs Thatcher made it clear | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
'that, in her list of priorities, | 0:48:40 | 0:48:41 | |
'replacing out-of-date primary schools came before | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
'giving free milk to 7 to 11-year-olds.' | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
Most parents can afford to provide their own children | 0:48:46 | 0:48:50 | |
with milk, or to give them money to buy milk. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
They can't, in fact, provide the school buildings. That's my job. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:57 | |
Margaret Thatcher arrived at Number Ten in 1979. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
Almost immediately, | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
her Conservative philosophies of parental choice were applied | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
to Scotland's schools. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
Good afternoon, Prime Minister. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
Part of the Thatcher years, of course, | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
and the reason why they had such a decisive effect on the development | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
of Scottish politics, was because we had not seen such interventionism | 0:49:19 | 0:49:24 | |
at all levels, from the economy through to education, | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
since the aftermath of the Jacobite rebellion in the 1740s. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:32 | |
As long ago as that. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:34 | |
There were big challenges. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:37 | |
The performance amongst poorer communities | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
and on the worst housing estates was pretty appalling. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
And everybody went round saying, | 0:49:43 | 0:49:44 | |
"Scottish education is the best in the world." | 0:49:44 | 0:49:46 | |
Well, it was no longer the best in the world. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
Teachers' wages had fallen well behind other professions | 0:49:49 | 0:49:53 | |
and mixed with the febrile political atmosphere of the early '80s, | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
this had a major impact in Scottish classrooms. | 0:49:56 | 0:50:01 | |
I had wanted to be a schoolteacher | 0:50:01 | 0:50:02 | |
from the age of about seven or eight, | 0:50:02 | 0:50:04 | |
and I found myself in 1983 in the classroom, | 0:50:04 | 0:50:08 | |
and then, one year in, the big bang of a teachers' strike | 0:50:08 | 0:50:12 | |
suddenly ripped all that away. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
Scottish teachers are determined to make their stand. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:24 | |
Well, everyone was terrified of the EIS. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:26 | |
The Educational Institute of Scotland | 0:50:26 | 0:50:29 | |
was a really powerful trade union, which was determined, at all costs, | 0:50:29 | 0:50:33 | |
to protect the interest of its members and seemed little concerned | 0:50:33 | 0:50:38 | |
with creating opportunities and new ideas. It was very politicised. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:43 | |
So you have that period of industrial action, | 0:50:43 | 0:50:48 | |
probably on a scale never seen before | 0:50:48 | 0:50:52 | |
in Scottish educational history. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:54 | |
The bitterness of the strike meant | 0:50:54 | 0:50:57 | |
a kind of withdrawal of labour from unpaid work. | 0:50:57 | 0:51:01 | |
I can recall, again, the number of teachers who would stay on | 0:51:01 | 0:51:06 | |
after hours, who would appear at the weekends in the sports fields, etc. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:11 | |
Almost all of that collapsed and, in many parts of Scotland, | 0:51:11 | 0:51:15 | |
it has never reappeared. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
I was about 14, 15 when the strikes really started to take hold, | 0:51:19 | 0:51:23 | |
and I went from having a lot of extra-curricular sport, | 0:51:23 | 0:51:26 | |
a lot of opportunities, to that pretty much being eliminated. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:30 | |
The extracurricular, whether it was sport or music or drama, | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
it was the heart of the school, it ran through the school's DNA, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
and I don't think we appreciated what we had lost | 0:51:36 | 0:51:38 | |
until it wasn't there any more. We were hugely reliant on | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
the goodwill of the teaching staff | 0:51:41 | 0:51:43 | |
to give us opportunities, extra-curricular, | 0:51:43 | 0:51:45 | |
outwith the classroom. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:47 | |
And I think it never quite recovered afterwards, | 0:51:47 | 0:51:51 | |
which is a real shame for the generations after me. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
The strike lasted two years and was brought to a close in 1986 | 0:51:54 | 0:51:59 | |
after concessions were made by the government. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
But there was a serious problem in the system | 0:52:02 | 0:52:04 | |
and the problem was that there was a complete distance | 0:52:04 | 0:52:09 | |
between the people within it and government and Parliament, | 0:52:09 | 0:52:13 | |
which was distant, not listening, and certainly not valuing | 0:52:13 | 0:52:17 | |
those who were actually delivering the service. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
With a majority Tory Government at Westminster, | 0:52:21 | 0:52:24 | |
but a minority of Tory MPs in Scotland now the norm, | 0:52:24 | 0:52:28 | |
things would remain far from settled. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
And the new man in charge of Scottish education | 0:52:31 | 0:52:33 | |
was determined to make his mark. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
I accept that there was a lot of change. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:38 | |
I was driven. I remember Margaret Thatcher saying to me, | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
"You don't go into politics in order to be popular. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
"If you are popular, then you are telling people | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
"what they want to hear and, in education in Scotland, | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
"the last thing we need is for the trade union leaders | 0:52:49 | 0:52:53 | |
"to be told what they want to hear." | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
Scottish parents were less than happy | 0:52:55 | 0:52:58 | |
being told by a Prime Minister few had voted for | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
how their children would be educated. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:03 | |
The reaction of Scottish parents to this was almost not simply | 0:53:05 | 0:53:09 | |
a reaction to the specific educational reforms, | 0:53:09 | 0:53:12 | |
but almost because, like so many aspects | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
of the government's policies in that period, | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
it was regarded as an attack on Scottish identity. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
But within a decade, | 0:53:21 | 0:53:22 | |
policies seen as the worst excesses of Thatcherism | 0:53:22 | 0:53:26 | |
became widely accepted by parents and the other political parties. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:30 | |
The Conservatives not only reformed the curriculum | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
in a very democratising way, but they also introduced things | 0:53:35 | 0:53:38 | |
that have subsequently become very popular. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:40 | |
For example, they enabled parents | 0:53:40 | 0:53:42 | |
to choose the school that they would send their children to. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
No subsequent government in Scotland, | 0:53:44 | 0:53:47 | |
whether Labour or Liberal Democrat or SNP, | 0:53:47 | 0:53:50 | |
has even raised the possibility | 0:53:50 | 0:53:51 | |
of restricting parental choice of school. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
While the individual policies, | 0:53:54 | 0:53:56 | |
testing and parents being more involved in school and so on, | 0:53:56 | 0:53:59 | |
have stood the test of time, | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
the resentment that the way they were brought in created | 0:54:02 | 0:54:08 | |
had a much more negative impact than the individual policies ever had | 0:54:08 | 0:54:12 | |
and a feeling that decisions were being imposed. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:16 | |
That was the key element which finally put the spine | 0:54:16 | 0:54:19 | |
into the movement for Scottish devolution. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
More than any other issue, | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
education was the trigger for Scotland's new Parliament. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:31 | |
And to this day, | 0:54:31 | 0:54:33 | |
Scotland's schools remain a barometer of the country's life. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:37 | |
Schools like Dalry Primary, in the west of Edinburgh, built in 1876. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:44 | |
And this is the school song, performed by the class of 1942. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:50 | |
PUPILS SINGING | 0:54:50 | 0:54:56 | |
This is the modern version, | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
sung in the multitude of languages now spoken in the school. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:08 | |
# Welcome to our school, your second home | 0:55:08 | 0:55:12 | |
# Our ring of respect, you feel included... # | 0:55:12 | 0:55:15 | |
There's 27 countries | 0:55:15 | 0:55:17 | |
and 35 languages spoken currently in the school. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
A century before, Irish immigrants had been held apart | 0:55:20 | 0:55:25 | |
from the mainstream. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:27 | |
Today's immigrant communities are encouraged | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
into the heart of Scottish education. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
# Welcome to you, As-Salaam-Alaikum | 0:55:33 | 0:55:36 | |
# Peace be with you... # | 0:55:36 | 0:55:38 | |
It's a really interesting community, | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
it's a really amazing weave of people. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:42 | |
But immersion itself is the key thing, | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
children as a resource is really important, | 0:55:45 | 0:55:47 | |
because children teach other children English. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:50 | |
They are learning about children from other cultures, | 0:55:50 | 0:55:53 | |
they are learning about different religions. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:55 | |
I think it breeds tolerance, you know. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:57 | |
If children learn there is nothing to be afraid of | 0:55:57 | 0:56:01 | |
in children who are from other cultures, | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
then that sets an example to us all. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
Scotland has always, historically, | 0:56:08 | 0:56:09 | |
been a weave of different nations coming together, | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
and I don't see this as any different. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
I just see it as part of that continuum. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:16 | |
So, I really celebrate it at Dalry. I'm really, really proud of it. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:18 | |
# Peace be with you Shanti, Shalom - yeah! # | 0:56:18 | 0:56:23 | |
People in Scotland have always thought of their schools | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
as constituting the morality of the nation, if you like. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
Constituting the way in which people should behave towards each other | 0:56:31 | 0:56:34 | |
and the way in which they should view the wider world. | 0:56:34 | 0:56:36 | |
Education has long been part of the fabric of this nation | 0:56:36 | 0:56:41 | |
and the way we teach our children has never stood still. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:44 | |
Perhaps, along the way, we overstated how good it actually was. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:50 | |
But when we look to the future, | 0:56:50 | 0:56:51 | |
we should also look back to the ambitions of the past. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:56 | |
As an aspiration, as an ideal, Scotland should always be proud | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
of its educational system. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:02 | |
It is a great heritage that we have fallen heir to. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:05 | |
That ideal has been there since 1560 | 0:57:05 | 0:57:09 | |
of educating the mass of the population. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:12 | |
That is a wonderful ideal we should pursue with vigour. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:16 | |
For all the problems that Scottish education faces today, | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
if we look back 100 years, | 0:57:19 | 0:57:20 | |
we can see that Scottish education is doing far, far better | 0:57:20 | 0:57:24 | |
for the majority of the population than ever before. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:27 | |
We may have improved educationally, in absolute terms, | 0:57:27 | 0:57:31 | |
but comparatively, we are certainly not doing as well as we did | 0:57:31 | 0:57:35 | |
in the 18th and 19th centuries. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:37 | |
Other countries have caught up and that's good. | 0:57:37 | 0:57:40 | |
But it doesn't mean to say | 0:57:40 | 0:57:42 | |
that we should give up being proud of Scottish education. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:46 | |
Next time, the world of the Scottish child and how it has changed | 0:57:48 | 0:57:53 | |
in the last 100 years. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:56 | |
A spike from an old railing, that was your javelin. | 0:57:56 | 0:57:58 | |
Or a slate from a roof, that became your discus. | 0:57:58 | 0:58:02 | |
Your parents never saw you whatsoever until you were hungry. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:06 | |
From the children of the slums, to the children of suburbia. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:11 | |
-Hi, Mike. -Call me Dad, Gregory, or Pop or something. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:16 | |
It makes me feel better when you call me Dad or Father. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:19 | |
And on to the boys and girls of modern Scotland. | 0:58:19 | 0:58:23 | |
Play on the iPad, play on the phone, | 0:58:23 | 0:58:28 | |
play on the computer, watch TV. | 0:58:28 | 0:58:31 |