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Bonjour! And welcome to Inside Versailles.

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Well, a pretty thrilling episode, lots of excitement.

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And there's a new girl on the block

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and that is the marvellous Liselotte - married to Philippe.

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And we're joined by Dr Linda Kiernan.

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Why choose her? She's from a very minor part of Europe.

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Why pick her as a wife for the brother of the King of France?

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Like all diagnostic marriages, they are played for the higher stakes.

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And they are playing for, basically, their power position within Europe.

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So for that reason, royal marriages are obviously never to do with

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the matches of the two individuals concerned.

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And, I mean, even that is reflected

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in the fact that they are married by proxy.

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They are already married by the time that they meet.

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So it shows, again, that there is negotiation,

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there are treaties involved,

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a huge amount of paperwork rather than any affairs of the heart.

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How does Philippe take to his new wife?

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Because, obviously, he's slightly shocked.

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We know he's not really into women,

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but one of the things I've read is this first thing he says is,

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"Do I have to sleep with that?"

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Philippe knows what is expected of him,

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that he is an incredibly important part of his brother's statecraft.

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Certainly, he's not a fan of the ladies, Philippe,

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but he is ready to do his duty as a husband, and they do get along.

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The other challenge she's got is there is the Chevalier de Lorraine.

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How does she react to having, you know,

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her husband's lover hovering around?

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She's very resilient about it.

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She writes that she doesn't...

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She hardly knows a single marriage or a single man who does not

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-have someone on the side.

-Oh!

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Be it mistresses or boys.

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So she's resigned to her a lot and to the marriage.

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But she does console herself with the fact that so many more

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at court are dealing with a third, maybe fourth, fifth party

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in their marriages too.

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So for that reason she is...

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She's putting up with what goes with her husband,

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what goes with Monsieur.

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She's one of our key sources for this period of history.

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You know, one of the people that

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actually tells us what it was like at court, and obviously,

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-she's incredibly funny and frank and quite rude about herself.

-Mm-hm.

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I mean, she has a cold at one point and says,

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"I look like a shat-upon carrot," isn't it?

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She doesn't see herself as, you know, overly attractive as such.

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But, I mean she calls herself hideously ugly in her letters.

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And she also asks for her portrait be sent to be sent to her

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and she refers to the portrait in code as the

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-Bear Cat Monkey Face portrait.

-Right.

-No vanity.

-So she's very...

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No vanity there whatsoever.

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She also uses a lot of German idioms in the French language that

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they don't really translate well, even now.

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But she has lots of different lurid stories as well and kind of

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more body stuff, which she talks about at one stays for Philippe,

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that for a man who is supposedly in charge of etiquette,

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they have a passing wind competition.

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OTHERS LAUGH

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And that Monsieur can make a sound like a flute as well, she mentions.

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-An important skill.

-And she's this fantastic figure.

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So different to every other woman in court.

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She's almost masculine in her behaviour, her love of exercise.

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Was that really incredibly shocking?

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As a young bride, her lady in waiting panicked when she found

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that her trousseau had six shifts and six nightdresses included.

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And she had to scramble together a wider wardrobe before the

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French ladies in waiting found out and spread the rumours around court.

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So in terms of fashion and beauty,

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she's very different in that respect.

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She doesn't really fit in in the beauty of court.

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How did she get on with the epitome of glamour, which is Athenais?

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-She doesn't like her.

-Oh.

-She calls her a desperate woman.

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She views Montespan as being just after ambition and whatever she can

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get out of the position itself.

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-She's a gold digger.

-She's a gold digger, so she thinks.

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She does believe that Louise de La Valliere

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was genuinely in love with the king, but she views Montespan

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as a different kettle of fish.

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How does she bear the fact that basically in terms of precedence,

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it's the queen, the number one woman,

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then it's the maitresse-en-titre, and then she comes third?

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She doesn't handle it well, from her private correspondence.

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She... It's one thing that she constantly harps on about.

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Having to walk behind Montespan.

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But just precedence in general, even for a woman who's very earthy,

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who seems to have the simpler tastes in life - she likes cabbage

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instead of chocolate, for instance.

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She's at the top level of the royal family.

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And, certainly, when she sees these usurpers wheedling their way

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in amongst the lineage and in amongst the levels of precedence,

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she doesn't like it whatsoever.

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And how does Louis react to this German princess arriving?

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Because, obviously, he's picked her but now she's at court.

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Does he find it a bit, slightly disconcerting

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or is he actually rather amused by her?

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In her letters she's very admiring of Louis XIV.

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She seems to have been cast under his spell.

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She seems to have been very much part of his inner circle

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for things like hunting.

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The whole kind of elaborate hunting outfit that she wore out with him

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gets her into some trouble actually

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in one of her first hunting trips with the king.

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Her dress gets caught underneath her on her horse.

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As she tries to pull it out,

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the horse bolts and it is Louis who arrives on the scene,

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ensures that she's totally fine, checks her skull,

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checks everything, goes back with her to the palace,

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stays with her to make sure that she doesn't get dizzy.

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So he seems to have been quite attentive to her.

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Well, I think we're all fans of Liselotte

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and I'm hoping to see a lot more of her in this series.

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Thank you so much for coming to talk about her, she's an absolute star.

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And thank you for joining us tonight.

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Hopefully, you'll come back for more next week.

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-Until then, bonsoir.

-Bonsoir!

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