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Every nation and every region now has a decision to make. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:11 | |
This programme contains scenes which some viewers may find upsetting. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
A few days after 9/11, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
Iraq's intelligence service received a secret message | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
from a trusted emissary. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:21 | |
The Deputy Prime Minister, Tariq Aziz, gave the order - | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
"Tell America Iraq will help fight al-Qaeda." | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
Saddam Hussein's answer was quite different. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
Saddam went on to say | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
that UN sanctions had killed far more in Iraq | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
than died on 9/11 in New York. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
This series tells the inside story of a decade of war in Iraq. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
From the road to invasion... | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
to the birth of an uncertain democracy... | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
THEY CHANT | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
..and the attempts to put an end to the killing | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
that has claimed over 100,000 lives. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
I had taken the view we needed, really, to remake the Middle East, | 0:02:07 | 0:02:13 | |
and therefore in the end, you're going to have to go through, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
I'm afraid, this long and drawn out | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
and sometimes bloody process of transition. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
You've got to deal with what you've got | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
and, uh... | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
anybody, basically, was better than Saddam Hussein. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
In January 2002, the War on Terror was four months old. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:53 | |
The allies had deposed the Taliban regime in Afghanistan. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
Now, Vice President, Dick Cheney, | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
turned his attention to the next target. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
Another terrorist attack, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
and everybody was convinced there'd be a follow-on to 9/11... | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
The place where we thought the biggest threat would lie | 0:03:07 | 0:03:13 | |
was Saddam Hussein and Iraq. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
THEY CHANT | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
Ten years before, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:19 | |
America had defeated Saddam in the First Gulf War, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
but left him in power. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
Now, many in the Bush administration | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
thought the time had come to get rid of him. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
I asked the CIA Director | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
if he could bring down a couple of his folks who worked that account | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
and to brief me. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:39 | |
Was it possible, the Vice President asked, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
to avoid war by organising a coup d'etat to overthrow Saddam? | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
And I explained to him, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
we have looked at covert action on Iraq for years, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
we have tried every effort, but he has organised his regime | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
to stop exactly that sort of thing and to stop a coup. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
He has destroyed the opposition, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
he has destroyed anybody who has a talent to do this, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
and I said, "Mr Vice President, we can't do a coup. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
"The possibility of overthrowing Saddam Hussein via coup is nil." | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
It was clear from what they told me | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
that you weren't going to be successful in trying to mount | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
some kind of coup against Saddam that changed the regime, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
that it would take more direct action. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
And he said, "Look, we made a mistake last time. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
"We're going to correct this mistake this time". | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
I interpret that to mean | 0:04:30 | 0:04:31 | |
"We stopped short of Baghdad and didn't remove him, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
"so we'll fix that and remove him." | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
Removing Saddam almost certainly meant war. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
So good intelligence inside Iraq would be essential. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
The Kurds, from the mountainous north, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
had been fighting Saddam for decades. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
The Americans turned to them. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
The Kurds had helped the Americans in the past, | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
but it had cost them dear. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:01 | |
I refused to have any kind of contact with the United States of America. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
But at that time in Iraq, we reached the conclusion | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
that the removal of dictatorship was impossible | 0:05:16 | 0:05:21 | |
without the support from outside. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
The Kurdish leaders were flown to a secret CIA training camp | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
in rural Virginia. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
This was supposed to be A - a secret visit, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
secondly, also, the location was supposed to be secret, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
so the windows were closed or taped off, | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
but the navigation maps on the seats were still on, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
so we knew where we were exactly going to land. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
They had come to meet senior officials of the CIA. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
We said "In the event that the United States embarks on this operation, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
"we're going to need a network of intelligence agents in Iraq." | 0:05:57 | 0:06:02 | |
We did not have as robust a network as we would have liked. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
The Kurds did and the Kurds had networks, the Kurds had contacts, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
there were Kurds throughout all of Iraq and I explained to them | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
that "Kurds are an integral part of this thing. We need you | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
"to provide access to intelligence, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
"to provide access to your territory." | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
We had people explaining on a whiteboard actually, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
specifically the times, the dates, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
the landing of some forces that were to come to the Kurdish areas | 0:06:38 | 0:06:44 | |
and so on, and I realised "This is, at long last, it is for real." | 0:06:44 | 0:06:49 | |
And I remember whispering into the ears of Mr Talabani, I said, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
"This time, you can get rid of Saddam Hussein." | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
THEY CHANT | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
The Americans feared Saddam would supply al-Qaeda with chemical, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
biological and nuclear weapons of mass destruction - WMD. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:10 | |
He'd already used a chemical weapon - nerve gas - | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
during his war against Iran. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
And he used it to kill more than 3000 Kurds in a single day. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:24 | |
Iraq had developed chemical weapons and used them. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
It had developed biological weapons. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
It had almost gotten to a nuclear weapon | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
before the First Gulf War began. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
So, Iraq was a known quantity | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
when it came to having weapons of mass destruction. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
I explained to the Prime Minister | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
that "The policy of my government is the removal of Saddam, | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
"and all options are on the table." | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
The President is right to draw attention | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
to the threat of weapons of mass destruction. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
But George Bush's closest ally had a problem. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
At any point in time, we will of course make sure | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
that Parliament is properly consulted. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
The Prime Minister will be aware of concern throughout the country | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
that by the time this House returns in the autumn, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
we will be at war with Iraq. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
Does he... members may groan, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
but many millions of people are concerned. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
-REPORTER: -Prime Minister, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
do you and President Bush agree with how to deal with Iraq? | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
The day before his summer break, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
Tony Blair called his senior colleagues to Downing Street. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
The Head of the Secret Intelligence Service had just been in America | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
and he was very much of the view that the Americans | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
basically had decided this was going to happen. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
And it was a question of when, rather than if. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
So I posed the choices - were we going to support the Americans | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
in their objective of regime change, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
or was it about requiring compliance by Saddam | 0:09:08 | 0:09:13 | |
of his United Nations obligations to rid himself of his chemical | 0:09:13 | 0:09:18 | |
and biological weapons, the weapons of mass destruction? | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
I said to Jack, the issue was undoubtedly | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
the proliferation of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
But obviously, the nature of the regime is of some importance | 0:09:27 | 0:09:34 | |
when you consider the threat of such a regime having WMDs. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:39 | |
So the separation of the two has always been a little unreal. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:44 | |
We could not be involved in any kind of military action | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
whose objective was regime change, because that is unlawful | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
according to our interpretation of international law. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
Jack was very clear that just because the Americans are saying something, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
does not mean the British government have to do it. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
But Tony was very clear that that would have been a huge break | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
with British foreign policy and he said directly to Jack, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:10 | |
"Look, this is worse than you think. I actually do believe in this." | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
While America and Britain were talking war, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
in Saddam's court, it was business as usual. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
Saddam had executed hundreds of officers for saying things | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
he didn't want to hear. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:51 | |
Now one general from his elite Republican Guard took a risk. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
General Hamdani had to wait | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
until the end of the meeting to learn his fate. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
-Commander, how are you? -All right, sir. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
We'll see you Friday. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
In America that summer, the debate over Iraq that mattered | 0:13:07 | 0:13:12 | |
was within the President's national security team. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
Vice-President Dick Cheney wanted the President to act now. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
But Secretary of State Colin Powell spent the summer worrying | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
that President Bush was being steam-rollered into war. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
He asked the President for a private meeting. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
The point I made to him is that I was a little uneasy | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
that all of the briefings the President had been getting | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
with respect to Iraq had been dealing with war plans, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
and how long it takes to get troops there. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
I said, "We have to do something either diplomatically | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
"or through the use of military force. We're going to need allies, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
"we're going to need people who will support us." | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
And he thought about it for a moment. He said, "What shall we do?" | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
And I said, "I recommend you take it to the UN. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
"They are the aggrieved party. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:03 | |
"It's their resolutions that have been offended." | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
Powell's arguments convinced the President they should seek | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
a new UN resolution demanding the return of the weapons inspectors | 0:14:09 | 0:14:14 | |
Saddam had expelled four years earlier. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
Vice President Dick Cheney was unhappy. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
Thank you. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:23 | |
A person would be right to question any suggestion that we should | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
just get inspectors back into Iraq, and then our worries will be over. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
Saddam has perfected the game of cheat and retreat, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
and is very skilled in the art of denial and deception. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
In his speech, he effectively shot down the proposal, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
shot down what we were getting ready to do. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
The UN couldn't do this. It was probably a waste of time, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
everything that you shouldn't have said, in my humble judgement, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
with respect to a decision the President had made. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
Colin Powell was on holiday in the Hamptons, on Long Island, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
at the estate of the cosmetics heir, Ron Lauder. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
Powell was short of allies in Washington. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
So he looked across the Atlantic for help. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
Went on Concorde. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
Sat next to Dustin Hoffman, so I was sort of starstruck, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
so you know - who the devil was I? | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
I was just another European Foreign Minister. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
So anyway, went on Concorde, got a helicopter straight from | 0:15:33 | 0:15:39 | |
the side of the plane to the house in which Colin Powell was staying. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
After a quick spin in one of their host's classic cars, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
the two foreign ministers worked out how they could put together | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
an international coalition against Iraq. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
I said to him, unless we go down the UN route - | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
with, brackets, the possibility that this could be resolved peacefully - | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
the Brits can't be involved, full stop. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
It would be unlawful and even if it were lawful, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
there would not be a majority for it. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
The point I made to him is that the Vice President always had | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
a reluctance to take what he believed | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
is something for us to decide | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
and sort of take it to the United Nations and get others involved. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
President Bush would have to choose between Colin Powell | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
and Dick Cheney. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:32 | |
He called his team to Camp David. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
If Bush agreed with Cheney, Tony Blair would be | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
put in an impossible position. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
Blair asked the President if he could put his case face-to-face. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
He would fly to America to do so. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
The only way we were going to get the United States | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
back down the United Nations path was by making it clear we were there | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
as allies. We weren't going to be fair-weather friends on this issue, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
we were going to be with them dealing with it. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
We learnt either just before we were leaving for the States or even | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
when we were en route that Dick Cheney was going to be there as well. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
The atmosphere on the plane over was really tough. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
Tony was extremely stressed, actually, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
I mean, he was writing arguments and getting his thoughts straight. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
And he'd want to talk individually, he'd call you over one by one | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
and go through the arguments, you know, and it was just a very tough, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:34 | |
a tough plane journey, actually. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
The President had spent the weekend closeted in Laurel Lodge | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
with his National Security team. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
Blair's arrival interrupted a fierce debate. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
We went into, there's a small office the President has | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
there at Laurel Lodge | 0:17:56 | 0:17:57 | |
and I can remember the three of us sitting in there | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
talking about this question of the United Nations resolution. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:05 | |
I argued very strongly that it was necessary to have that UN support | 0:18:05 | 0:18:11 | |
behind us, that because of the seriousness | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
and consequences of military action, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
we had to give it one last go at resolving this peacefully. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:22 | |
Another resolution would be passed and would have the same effect | 0:18:22 | 0:18:28 | |
as the others - in effect, nothing would happen. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
I argued that going to the UN was likely to get us all tangled up | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
and once you pull the trigger and start to move, you've got to move. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
President Bush was more in listening mode at that point | 0:18:38 | 0:18:43 | |
but then afterwards, as we were talking together, | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
President Bush made it clear that on balance, his judgement was also | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
that it was better to have a UN resolution. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
Blair had won - for the time being. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
We will work with the UN Security Council | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
for the necessary resolutions. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
But the purposes of the United States should not be doubted. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
The Security Council resolutions will be enforced. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
The just demands of peace and security will be met. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
Or action will be unavoidable. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
It was a declaration of war against Iraq. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
So you can imagine, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
you as a representative of your country, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
you as a human being, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
that somebody tell you, "We will kill you". | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
I decided that it is time now | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
to do a pre-emptive action to stop the United States | 0:19:54 | 0:19:59 | |
from this plan of war against Iraq. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
I sent a coded message to the President proposing approval | 0:20:04 | 0:20:09 | |
to let inspectors back. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
Saddam finally agreed the weapons inspectors could return to Iraq. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
Though Saddam strongly denied possessing banned weapons, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
most governments thought he was lying. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
At the end of the Gulf War in 1991, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
Iraq had been ordered by the UN to destroy all its WMD. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
It didn't. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
Saddam suspected that the Americans had uncovered his deception. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
So a few months after the war, he had the remaining WMD destroyed. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:45 | |
Throughout 2002, American, British | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
and other Western intelligence agencies | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
were desperately searching the world | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
for hard evidence that Saddam still had weapons of mass destruction. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
Then the French secret service made what promised to be | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
the crucial breakthrough. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:25 | |
I was contacted by my French colleagues | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
whom I'd been working with on counter-terrorism matters, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
and they told me that they had access, through an intermediary | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
in Paris, to an Iraqi minister very high in Saddam Hussein's Cabinet, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:44 | |
who may want to defect. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:45 | |
The man they were talking about was | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
Saddam's Foreign Minister, Naji Sabri. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
I said it was a long shot. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
But it was at least worthwhile following up. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
When this message came, we collectively in Iraq operations | 0:22:58 | 0:23:03 | |
looked at it and thought that this was just bullshit. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
There was no reason why the newly-minted Iraqi Foreign Minister | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
would have any information on WMD. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
Saddam doesn't share it, this guy was not an insider, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
he was not one of the loyal few. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
But Rueda's boss, George Tenet, the Director of the CIA, overruled him. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:25 | |
Director Tenet briefed the President on this operation. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
The President made it clear, said this would be a great coup | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
if we can get him to defect and get up in front of television | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
or the UN and say "We have WMD". | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
But French Intelligence had no direct contact | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
with Foreign Minister Sabri. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:41 | |
They relied on an intermediary, Nabil Mograbi, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
long one of their trusted sources. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
The prize was so big, the CIA agreed to pay the intermediary | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
200,000 upfront - far in excess of their normal rate. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:16 | |
Foreign Minister Sabri was to address the United Nations. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
It offered a rare chance to get to him for a private meeting. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
Mograbi went to New York to see if Sabri would defect | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
or at least answer the CIA's questions about WMD. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:35 | |
I was in New York in mid-September 2002, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
an Arab ex-journalist living in France telephoned me, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:46 | |
saying he would like to say hello to me. I said yes. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:52 | |
I had suspicions at the time that he has links | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
with the French authorities, I'm not sure. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
Sabri met the intermediary at the residence | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
of the Iraqi ambassador to the UN. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
He came to me and he started asking me about how I felt | 0:25:08 | 0:25:13 | |
about my new job, how I was doing, was I happy with it or not. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:20 | |
And then he shifted the questions | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
to my relationship with President Saddam. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
This was exactly what happened - that's it. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
Something else happened. The CIA prepared a test | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
to prove whether Mograbi had really met Sabri. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
We came up with a little ploy, which was to have the intermediary | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
have a couple of suits custom-made for the Minister and to give them | 0:25:40 | 0:25:45 | |
to him the night before he spoke at the UN General Assembly, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
and ask the Minister to wear one while he was giving the speech. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:54 | |
Iraq has always defended the principles and values that... | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
'When I saw the presentation on the TV news later | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
'I was very happy to see' | 0:26:01 | 0:26:02 | |
that the Minister was wearing my suit during his speech to the world. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
It showed that they had in fact met. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
On the morning of Sabri's speech, the CIA interviewed Mograbi. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:16 | |
The intermediary was able to get detailed answers to the questions | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
we had posed, the relevant questions on weapons of mass destruction. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:27 | |
The report of their interview was fast-tracked to the CIA bosses. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:32 | |
'An important report comes in' | 0:26:32 | 0:26:33 | |
from a source who claims to have access | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
to the current Iraqi Foreign Minister Naji Sabri, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
that makes quite an impression, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
particularly on some of the senior people in Washington. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
The report said that the Foreign Minister had confirmed | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
that Iraqi scientists were developing | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
weapons of mass destruction for Saddam. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
People working this problem for him tell him | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
they can put together a programme with nuclear weapons, | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
or close to nuclear weapons, in 18 to 24 months. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
The source also says that he has chemical weapons and has mounted them | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
on medium-range launchers as a kind of last resort to use | 0:27:08 | 0:27:14 | |
in the event that he experiences an invasion | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
or some kind of military action, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
and that his biological programme is not very big, but is nascent. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
The President and his allies had been saying for years | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
that Saddam had WMD. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
The report appeared to provide high-level confirmation. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
CIA bosses sent it to the White House. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
Those who had read the Naji Sabri reporting had some confidence | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
that it gave a very reassuring view of Saddam's WMD status and, again, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:52 | |
the sensitivity of that and the origin of that was such | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
that you didn't put it out in public, but in the background of things | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
it strengthened everyone's confidence | 0:27:59 | 0:28:00 | |
that what you were saying was accurate. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
Four years later, when the US Senate investigated intelligence failures, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:10 | |
CIA agent Murray made a shocking accusation. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
He said that the report of his meeting with the intermediary | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
had been changed by a CIA colleague to say that Saddam had WMD. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
Murray now claimed that the intermediary meant the opposite. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
The intermediary told me | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
they were never able to produce a weapons programme. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
There literally were no stockpiles of offensive weapons | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
of mass destruction. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
The Senate investigation could find no evidence | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
to support Murray's accusation. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
And the reason Murray said nothing for four years? | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
He says he did not see the report of the meeting at the time. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
When the war was over in 2003, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
a CIA team was finally able to interview Sabri | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
without a go-between. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
And he looked at us like we were horses' asses | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
and said "What defection? What WMD? | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
"I don't know what you're talking about!" | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
It was a stunning revelation that the source was fabricating this. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
Mograbi declined our invitation to say on the record what | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
he discussed with Naji Sabri. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
Today, it is difficult to establish what actually happened | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
or even where the information in the report came from. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
But in the months leading up to the war, decision makers believed | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
that Saddam's Foreign Minister had confirmed that Iraq had WMD. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
Western intelligence agencies had gathered thousands of reports, | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
using both human and electronic sources - | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
most of them pointed to the same conclusion. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
There was a fairly strong flow of information, and of course | 0:29:54 | 0:29:59 | |
all this was against the background of the situation where the thing | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
that was not in doubt was that he had had WMD and had used them. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
PROTESTERS CHANT | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
Don't attack Iraq! Don't attack Iraq! | 0:30:10 | 0:30:14 | |
In Britain, opposition to a war was growing - | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
and with it, the demand for the facts about Saddam's WMD. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:22 | |
We were under enormous pressure to say what we knew | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
from the intelligence we had. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
We have heard again and again there is a dossier of evidence | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
Why haven't we got it up to now, and when are we going to see it? | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
A lot of the work has already been done, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:51 | |
there needs to be some more work and some more checking done. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
But I think probably the best thing to do is to publish that | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
within the next few weeks. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
From the moment that it was announced, this was going | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
to be kind of such a big thing. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:03 | |
So the build-up to it was enormous | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
and my worry was always that, actually, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
it's not necessarily going to meet these incredible expectations. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:16 | |
The document was drafted by a group chaired by the head | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
of the joint intelligence committee, John Scarlett. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
The role of Alastair Campbell would later provoke controversy. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:29 | |
He made sure the case was put as strongly | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
as the intelligence professionals would allow. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
A lot of it was going to be historical, | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
a lot of it was going to be quite bland, a lot of it was going | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
to be very dry and that's as it should have been. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
The key thing the security services had insisted upon was that | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
the report should be theirs. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
So I wrote the foreword to it, but the actual report was theirs. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
The decision as to which intelligence to insert into it | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
was also theirs. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:54 | |
Parliament was recalled to debate the report. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
Order! | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
The history of Saddam and weapons of mass destruction | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
is not American or British propaganda. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
His weapons of mass destruction programme is active, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:12 | |
detailed and growing. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:13 | |
The Prime Minister then made an astonishing claim, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
based on information received a month before he spoke | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
that never went through the full checking process. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
It concludes that Iraq has chemical and biological weapons | 0:32:23 | 0:32:28 | |
which could be activated within 45 minutes | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
and that he is actively trying to acquire nuclear weapons capability. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
The Prime Minister got the headlines he wanted. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
Though he would later regret it. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
I've absolutely no doubt that if I had my time over again, | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
I would have simply published the intelligence reports | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
that came to me, and then all this stuff about deceit and lies | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
and all the rest of it would have been put to one side. | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
In November, the United Nations resolution that Tony Blair | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
and Colin Powell had pressed for passed unanimously. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
The clock for invasion was set ticking. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
Iraq was given 30 days to prove it had got rid of all its WMD. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
Iraqi scientists and technicians set out to provide the evidence. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
The report was 12,000 pages long. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
But it wasn't enough for the Americans. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
Saddam provides a declaration which is high in volume | 0:34:08 | 0:34:13 | |
and shy in content. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
There's really nothing new. There's nothing that comes close | 0:34:15 | 0:34:19 | |
to being a full accounting. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:20 | |
President Bush believed he had the justification | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
he needed to depose Saddam. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
But he worried he had not yet explained the case for war. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
He summoned CIA chiefs to the White House. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
And he asks John McLaughlin to start presenting the intelligence case | 0:34:37 | 0:34:42 | |
that Saddam Hussein has unaccounted-for | 0:34:42 | 0:34:47 | |
weapons of mass destruction. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:48 | |
I said things like, "We can document that Saddam has exceeded | 0:34:48 | 0:34:56 | |
"the UN-imposed limits for the range of his missiles." | 0:34:56 | 0:35:01 | |
We had some charts and graphs | 0:35:01 | 0:35:02 | |
that showed particularly for missile testing and such. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
And he built the case sort of block by block from the bottom up. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:11 | |
Very detailed, very granual. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
I went through the briefing and I, in my usual way, was very caveated | 0:35:14 | 0:35:19 | |
and careful in what I said. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
And the President, of course, is thinking about how this is going | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
to work in a public audience, and at about 20 minutes in | 0:35:24 | 0:35:29 | |
he stops John and he says, "John, is this the best we can do?" | 0:35:29 | 0:35:36 | |
"Is this the best intelligence case we have?" | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
The CIA director, George Tenet, came to the aid of his deputy. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
I can remember the President turned to George, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
sitting on the couch to the right of the fireplace where the President | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
and I were sitting on the chairs next to the fireplace, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
and he asked George, he said, "Just how good is our case | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
"on Saddam Hussein and weapons of mass destruction?" | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
And George immediately responded, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
he said, "It's a slam dunk, Mr President, it's a slam dunk." | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
So the President concludes we need to make a case like a lawyer | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
would make a case before a jury in a closing argument. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
"Hadley, you and Libby are lawyers, | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
"why don't you guys take this intelligence, go out and write | 0:36:18 | 0:36:23 | |
"a legal brief on behalf of a use of force against Saddam Hussein?" | 0:36:23 | 0:36:28 | |
The President instructed Colin Powell to present the case. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
A special session of the UN was convened to hear him. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
The White House sent him its draft presentation. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
I called him and just said, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
"Look, Colin, I think it's a pretty good package, | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
"I hope you'll take a look at it." | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
We weren't trying to, you know, say, "This is what you've got to use," | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
we were trying to be helpful at the direction of the President. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
It went first to my assistant, and when he reported to me | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
later in the afternoon "That this is not a case, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
"it does not hang together, there is not back-up material | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
"for the assertions and claims that are made, it's unusable", | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
that was enough for me to call Dr Rice and say, | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
"Look, we got a problem. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
"All I have is the weapons of mass destruction case - | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
"I don't have the human rights case, I don't have the terrorism case, | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
"and you need to get more time, we need a little more time." | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
And her answer was, "Jeez, sorry, too late, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
"the President has already announced it publicly." | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
Colin Powell would have just one week to prepare. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
Armed with the draft, | 0:37:39 | 0:37:40 | |
he raced over to CIA headquarters to check the facts. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
When I went out to the CIA, | 0:37:46 | 0:37:47 | |
to start working on a new draft of the documentation, the focus | 0:37:47 | 0:37:53 | |
was weapons of mass destruction, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
because that was the cause celebre that, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
that would either require us to go to war or not. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
The CIA assured Powell | 0:38:01 | 0:38:02 | |
that Saddam was trying to obtain nuclear centrifuges | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
and was training al-Qaeda operatives in the use of WMD. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
I didn't come up with that information, I spent four days | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
sorting through the material to get what I thought was most sustainable. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:20 | |
It was attested to by 16 intelligence agencies, and British intelligence. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
The CIA was confident in its material - including | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
the reporting that apparently came from Iraq's Foreign Minister. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
However, to protect the sources, much of it had to be kept secret. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:37 | |
The reporting we had that traced to Naji Sabri, along with other | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
reporting we had that was not being declassified, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
and in some cases has never been declassified, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
was in the background of people's thinking here. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
No single report ever takes you to certainty, | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
but it's the kind of report that strengthened the broadly-held | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
conviction that Saddam had WMD. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
What you will see is an accumulation of facts | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
and disturbing patterns of behaviour. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
The facts and Iraq's behaviour show that Saddam Hussein | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
and his regime are concealing their efforts to produce more | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
weapons of mass destruction. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
The Secretary of State presented America's case, | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
complete with visual aids. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
Less than a teaspoon of dried anthrax - | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
a little bit, about this amount... | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
America's vast resources of intelligence gathering | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
were displayed before the world. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
You will now hear an officer from Republican Guard headquarters | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
issuing an instruction to an officer in the field. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
Whether this proved Saddam still had active WMD was open to dispute. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:50 | |
This is part and parcel of a policy of evasion | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
and deception that goes back 12 years. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
Their conversation took place just last week, on January 30th. | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
TRANSLATION | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
Thousands of troops were deploying to the Middle East. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
The chance of avoiding war was shrinking. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
The military worried that if you go through this huge deployment | 0:40:56 | 0:41:01 | |
and months go by and then you get into the summer | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
and it's too hot to contemplate military action | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
and you bring people home... | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
This idea that you would keep marching up the hill, | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
then marching back down again was very unpalatable to them. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
One weekend in February, huge anti-war demonstrations | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
were held in 60 countries. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
In London, about one million people took to the streets - | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
the largest demonstration in British history. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
We all knew a lot of people on the demonstration - | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
I mean, you know, family and friends. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
This was a very, very difficult day. Tony was pretty quiet. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:06 | |
I mean, he knew this was kind of his people in a sense, this was, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:11 | |
this was watching party supporters and government supporters | 0:42:11 | 0:42:15 | |
expressing really strong opposition. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
Blair worried that he could not persuade his people | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
that action against Saddam was legal or justified | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
without another resolution from the UN, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
this one explicitly authorising war. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
To get this decisive resolution, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:37 | |
he had to win the support of President Bush. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
When Prime Minister Blair showed up, he was asking us to do | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
a second resolution, and most of us thought that was not a good idea. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:51 | |
They said, "Look, we agree with you - | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
"we go down the UN route in November, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
"we gave him a final opportunity, he's not taken it, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
"we've got a huge force stacked up, ready to go, | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
"and there's a limit to how far we can... You know, | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
"the only cooperation we're getting is because that force is there. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
"If you delay and delay | 0:43:06 | 0:43:07 | |
"and delay, you know, he'll just slip through our fingers again." | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
The nation expected we were going to act, | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
the Congress had already voted and so forth, | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
and we go back to the UN for another resolution, | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
it looked like a sign of weakness. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:19 | |
It was very hard for President Bush. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:21 | |
He had already pulled his system down the UN route, | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
but I thought it was important politically still to do it. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
The President decided | 0:43:28 | 0:43:30 | |
if Tony Blair needed it for political purposes at home, | 0:43:30 | 0:43:35 | |
it was important for us to go the extra mile for our ally. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:40 | |
The previous UN resolution, which had led Saddam to readmit | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
weapons inspectors, had passed unanimously. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
But some members of the Security Council now worried | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
that America was rushing into war. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:57 | |
TRANSLATION FROM FRENCH | 0:43:59 | 0:44:01 | |
France, as a permanent member of the Security Council, | 0:44:20 | 0:44:24 | |
could veto the resolution. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:25 | |
So could Russia. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:28 | |
Russia's leader, Vladimir Putin, | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
was invited to Paris for a tete-a-tete with President Chirac. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:37 | |
TRANSLATION FROM FRENCH | 0:44:44 | 0:44:48 | |
Putin and Chirac agreed they would vote against the war unless | 0:44:58 | 0:45:02 | |
the UN weapons inspectors were given time to finish their mission. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:06 | |
On 6th March, the French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin | 0:45:19 | 0:45:23 | |
had dinner in New York with Colin Powell. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:26 | |
"Dominique, ne sous-estimez pas notre determination." | 0:46:05 | 0:46:10 | |
"Dominique, please don't underestimate our determination." | 0:46:10 | 0:46:16 | |
Three days later, the French President startled the world. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
A French "no" meant the UN resolution could not pass... | 0:46:55 | 0:46:59 | |
..but, without a second resolution, many of Tony Blair's supporters | 0:47:01 | 0:47:05 | |
thought war would be illegal. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:06 | |
We undertook this strategy which was, in a sense, to expose him | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
to the wrath of the voters | 0:47:12 | 0:47:13 | |
and, particularly, I think, people who probably had been sympathetic | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
to him most of the time he'd been Prime Minister. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
You've said since 1997 that there's no money for education, | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
there's no money for decent hospitals | 0:47:22 | 0:47:24 | |
but there's a bottomless pit when it comes to war. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:27 | |
Is this what a Labour Party Prime Minister should be doing? | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
You are attacking Iraq with George Bush, | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
and it's not dissimilar to what Bin Laden | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
or the al-Qaeda network done to America. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:40 | |
They killed 3,000 or more innocent victims. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
How many innocent victims are you going to kill | 0:47:43 | 0:47:46 | |
and how many people are going to suffer? | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:47:48 | 0:47:49 | |
He was pretty livid when he came back, I mean, and, you know, | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
he very, very rarely lost it, | 0:47:52 | 0:47:54 | |
he, just, he's not that sort of person | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
but he did give us a pretty hard time when he came back. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
Whips estimated almost half of Labour MPs | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
would either vote against Blair or abstain if he backed the Americans | 0:48:05 | 0:48:09 | |
without the legal cover of a second resolution. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:11 | |
Tony Blair met Jack Straw. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
I said to Tony, "They are determined to go ahead | 0:48:15 | 0:48:18 | |
"with this military action, come what may, | 0:48:18 | 0:48:20 | |
"and there is a grave danger | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
"that the only regime change that takes place | 0:48:22 | 0:48:25 | |
"could be here in this room." | 0:48:25 | 0:48:27 | |
I said, "Jack, I know that, I mean, I don't, | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
"you know, I'm aware of how tough it is | 0:48:29 | 0:48:31 | |
"and how much opposition there's going to be to it." | 0:48:31 | 0:48:33 | |
President Bush called Tony Blair. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:38 | |
Morning, Tony, how are you? | 0:48:38 | 0:48:41 | |
The President says to him, | 0:48:41 | 0:48:43 | |
"I know you've got this difficult vote in Parliament. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
"I would rather have you drop out of the coalition | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
"and keep you...head of your government as an ally, | 0:48:49 | 0:48:54 | |
"than have you try to stay in the coalition and lose your government." | 0:48:54 | 0:48:58 | |
I think he was genuinely trying to reach out to me, | 0:48:58 | 0:49:00 | |
in a situation of political difficulty, and I made it clear - | 0:49:00 | 0:49:03 | |
if it was the right thing to do, I wanted my country to be part of it, | 0:49:03 | 0:49:07 | |
and, you know, I meant what I said | 0:49:07 | 0:49:09 | |
about standing shoulder to shoulder with the US, | 0:49:09 | 0:49:11 | |
and I would prefer to have gone and left as Prime Minister, | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
than to have backed out on the basis | 0:49:14 | 0:49:17 | |
that it was too politically difficult. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:19 | |
My fellow citizens... | 0:49:22 | 0:49:24 | |
..events in Iraq have now reached the final days of decision. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
'Saddam Hussein and his sons must leave Iraq within 48 hours... | 0:49:28 | 0:49:34 | |
'..their refusal to do so will result in military conflict, | 0:49:35 | 0:49:39 | |
'commenced at a time of our choosing.' | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
'The Prime Minister will find out very shortly | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
'just how many Labour MPs' | 0:49:54 | 0:49:55 | |
have rejected his policy on war with Iraq. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
Tonight will pass into history as one of the key political moments | 0:49:58 | 0:50:02 | |
in the lifetime of most of us. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:03 | |
And the stakes could barely be higher - | 0:50:03 | 0:50:05 | |
the Prime Minister warning his party he will not want to lead it | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
if they do not back the war. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:10 | |
In the frantic last-minute lobbying for votes, | 0:50:10 | 0:50:14 | |
Jack Straw used a tried and trusted tactic... | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
blame the French. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
One of the major arguments I made to Labour MPs | 0:50:19 | 0:50:22 | |
was that it was the French who had, | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
literally, forced us into this position of having to go to war | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
because if we'd have got that second resolution, | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
there would have been an ultimatum | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
backed by the promise of military action, | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
if Saddam had not cooperated. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:39 | |
And, at that point, he would have cooperated, in my view. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:41 | |
Some of it became completely ludicrous, | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
so you'd see the same MP for the fourth time, | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
who had a different excuse, if you like, each time, | 0:50:46 | 0:50:49 | |
about why he or she could not make the decision yet, | 0:50:49 | 0:50:52 | |
or had to go and take soundings from the constituency chairman again, | 0:50:52 | 0:50:56 | |
or whatever, or indeed one finally said to us, | 0:50:56 | 0:51:00 | |
"I've got to go and talk to my mother," who it turned out was dead. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:04 | |
BLAIR: This is not the time to falter, | 0:51:05 | 0:51:09 | |
this is the time for this House, not just this government, | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
or indeed this Prime Minister, but for this House to give a lead. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:16 | |
To show at the moment of decision | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
that we have the courage to do the right thing. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
I beg to move the motion. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:23 | |
ALL SHOUT | 0:51:23 | 0:51:25 | |
The Commons voted for war - | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
almost two-thirds of Labour MPs backed Tony Blair. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:35 | |
27 hours remained before George Bush's ultimatum expired. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:43 | |
Saddam summoned his military commanders. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:47 | |
More than 200,000 allied troops were now massing on Iraq's borders. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:26 | |
It was now Wednesday March 19th. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:40 | |
The President's deadline was just six hours away. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:43 | |
'It's about two o'clock in the afternoon. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:47 | |
'None of us had had lunch, I hadn't even had breakfast.' | 0:53:47 | 0:53:50 | |
George Tenet bursts through my door, our offices were connected. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:53 | |
We had an intel report that came in, that said Saddam, | 0:53:53 | 0:53:57 | |
that it looked like preparations were being made | 0:53:57 | 0:53:59 | |
for a senior level meeting at Dora Farms, | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
and the odds were that Saddam was going to be there. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
The CIA had got three members of Saddam's security team | 0:54:07 | 0:54:10 | |
to spy for them. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:12 | |
They were now at Dora Farms, on the banks of the Tigris River, | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
one of Saddam's palaces. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:18 | |
They were sending information directly from the palace | 0:54:18 | 0:54:21 | |
to the CIA's head of Iraq Operations. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
Our problem is, we don't have a set time. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:27 | |
Saddam does not keep a schedule - | 0:54:27 | 0:54:29 | |
one of his survival techniques is unpredictability - | 0:54:29 | 0:54:33 | |
but, based on what we do understand, | 0:54:33 | 0:54:35 | |
we believe he will probably be there anywhere between 1 and 3am, | 0:54:35 | 0:54:38 | |
and the odds are, he will be gone before the sun rises. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:41 | |
This is perhaps an opportunity to decapitate the regime | 0:54:41 | 0:54:45 | |
and avoid a major war. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
It'd be over. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:48 | |
And at that point, adrenaline takes over. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:50 | |
We jump into our black Suburbans, | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
race down the road to the White House. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:54 | |
I'm grilled by members of the cabinet, | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
"How good is the information?" | 0:54:58 | 0:54:59 | |
As we're doing this, intelligence is starting to flow, | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
more reporting is coming into the situation room, | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
and they bring it in, they give it to me, I start looking at it, | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
and it starts to change, and shape the picture. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:09 | |
John McLaughlin and I are on our knees at a coffee table | 0:55:09 | 0:55:12 | |
with maps spread out, | 0:55:12 | 0:55:13 | |
trying to take what's coming in from intelligence channels | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
that's a narrative. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:17 | |
We can probably even guess which rooms he may be in, | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
in this farm complex. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:21 | |
The President's, of course, nightmare is that we conduct | 0:55:21 | 0:55:25 | |
a military strike, it's actually a disinformation campaign | 0:55:25 | 0:55:29 | |
and we hit a school bus loaded with children - | 0:55:29 | 0:55:32 | |
and that's how the war begins. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:33 | |
Not a good way to begin a major military operation. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:37 | |
Then the President kicked everybody out except me. He asked me to stay, | 0:55:37 | 0:55:41 | |
and then turned to me, and asked me, | 0:55:41 | 0:55:43 | |
and said, "Dick, what do you think we should do?" | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
And I, basically, recommended that I thought we should take the chance | 0:55:46 | 0:55:53 | |
that, in fact, Saddam might be there, | 0:55:53 | 0:55:55 | |
and that it would be a quick, and easy way | 0:55:55 | 0:56:00 | |
to bring the conflict to an end, | 0:56:00 | 0:56:02 | |
if, in fact, we could eliminate him in the first hour. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
The President decided to strike as soon as his deadline expired. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:12 | |
'The initial intelligence reports are encouraging.' | 0:56:22 | 0:56:26 | |
We're told that somebody who looks like Saddam Hussein | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
has been removed from the rubble. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:32 | |
He's blue, and the thought is, maybe this has worked. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:36 | |
But subsequent reports are less encouraging | 0:56:36 | 0:56:41 | |
and whoever that was, that was taken out from the, from the rubble, | 0:56:41 | 0:56:45 | |
it was not Saddam Hussein, | 0:56:45 | 0:56:47 | |
and this last-ditch effort to head off a war has regrettably failed. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:53 | |
In Baghdad, General Hamdani asked for an urgent meeting | 0:56:57 | 0:57:01 | |
with Saddam's son, Qusay. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 | |
At 5.30 in the morning, Iraqi time, | 0:57:42 | 0:57:45 | |
the coalition launched a massive air and land attack on Iraq. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:49 | |
War had begun. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:52 | |
EXPLOSIONS AND GUNFIRE | 0:58:01 | 0:58:04 | |
'You all right?' | 0:58:06 | 0:58:08 | |
No, man, no. This is a bad day! | 0:58:08 | 0:58:11 | |
In the next episode... | 0:58:11 | 0:58:12 | |
..how America and Britain quickly won the war... | 0:58:14 | 0:58:16 | |
..but lost the peace. | 0:58:20 | 0:58:22 | |
I said to the President, | 0:58:25 | 0:58:27 | |
"This is going to be more like a marathon than a sprint. | 0:58:27 | 0:58:29 | |
"It's going to take time." | 0:58:29 | 0:58:30 | |
Fixing a country is not something you do overnight. | 0:58:30 | 0:58:33 | |
MEN CHANT AND SINGING | 0:58:33 | 0:58:37 | |
Imagine, now we are running a country which has nothing. | 0:58:37 | 0:58:41 | |
It has no army, no police, no money. Nothing, nothing at all! | 0:58:41 | 0:58:45 | |
MEN CHANT | 0:58:45 | 0:58:48 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:59:13 | 0:59:16 |