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Hello and welcome to this historic airfield in Cambridgeshire. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
Now part of the Imperial War Museum, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
it's dedicated to the stories of people who've lived through conflict. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
Throughout Remembrance Week, we're honouring courage, | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
celebrating heroes | 0:00:14 | 0:00:15 | |
and remembering those who've suffered life-changing injuries. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
This is how the people remember. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
All this week I'm exploring some of the treasures here, | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
with former Army officer Andy Torbet. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
And celebrities from the worlds of entertainment and broadcasting | 0:00:36 | 0:00:41 | |
tell us the role their families played during the war. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
On today's programme, courage and sacrifice. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
We meet a man who is only alive today | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
thanks to the bravery of another on the battlefield. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
My brother and I would not be here now, nor would my father have been. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
And I think that that is something which has a profound impact on you. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:07 | |
Straight from Albert Square, June Brown, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
who plays Dot Cotton in EastEnders, shares her wartime memories with us. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
And on the 70th anniversary of the end of the Second World War, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:22 | |
we hear some VE Day memories. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
We ran into the street and everybody was cheering and yelling. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
It was heaven, absolute heaven. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
Good morning from the Imperial War Museum in Duxford. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
Today, we're hearing about the extraordinary bravery | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
of people who put themselves in harm's way to protect others. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
We have some stories of great courage, | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
both on the battlefield and on the home front. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
Our guest today is the actress June Brown, a very familiar face | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
from EastEnders, where she plays the long-suffering Dot Cotton. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
June, welcome to the programme. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
Tell us about your war years. Where were you during the war? | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
I wasn't a brave warmonger, as they say. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
I lived in a backwater, really. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
I lived in East Anglia at the time. We were 12 miles from the sea. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:27 | |
So I didn't have to go through all the bombing that | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
the people in London did, and the big cities. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
Well, you say that, June, but you actually came under fire | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
a few times. You saw some action! | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
JUNE LAUGHS In a strange sort of way, yes. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
I was waiting for a trolleybus - I think I must have been about 15 - | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
halfway down the hill that I lived in | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
and I looked up to see if it was coming round the corner | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
and I saw a German fighter coming down the road, machine gunning. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:55 | |
Well, fortunately for me, there was a little cobbler's shop | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
attached to a residential house right by the trolleybus stop. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
And it had a lot of steps. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
And I ran up the steps and flattened myself against the door, because... | 0:03:05 | 0:03:10 | |
I didn't go in - I wasn't a customer. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
And then when it had gone, I just came down | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
and waited at the bus stop again. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
And you, like so many children, had to leave home, didn't you? | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
You had to be evacuated. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
Well, I WAS evacuated. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:24 | |
I didn't have to be. It was the choice of my parents | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
and we were... | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
It was after Dunkirk, you see, and we were expecting an invasion. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
And I went with only two of my form, and one teacher - | 0:03:33 | 0:03:38 | |
lovely Miss Midgley, the Latin teacher - to Leicester. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
I know you've got some wonderful stories to tell. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
You're going to tell us more about that in a moment. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
But as we heard, June was one of thousands of children | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
evacuated during World War II, to keep safe from the bombs. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:54 | |
But there were lulls during the bombing - | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
and, with youngsters missing home, parents were faced with the choice | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
of leaving their children in safer parts of the country | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
or bringing them back to the potential danger of the cities. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
Historian Richard Van Emden has been finding out about | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
the agonising decision one family had to make. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
As Germany invaded Poland, the British government | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
swung into action to empty cities of their most vulnerable inhabitants. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
Nearly 800,000 children were evacuated | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
and sent to safer places around Britain. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
But this safety came at a price. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
Families were torn apart. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
Young children were removed from their parents | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
to be placed far away, with new and unfamiliar families. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
While children stayed with their host families, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
the Luftwaffe pounded Britain's cities for over a year. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
But when the bombing eased, parents faced a difficult choice. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
Was it safe for children to come home or should they stay away? | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
I've come to Warrington to meet 82-year-old Eric Brady. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
Hello, Eric. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:06 | |
'His life was changed for ever by a decision his parents made.' | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
Eric was six years old when he and his sister Kitty | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
were sent from their home in London to the Welsh valleys. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
When you left home, what was your initial reaction? | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
Kitty went off in one direction and I went off in another | 0:05:22 | 0:05:28 | |
to different foster parents. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
And that was the first time that Kitty and I had ever been separated | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
like that, and I think it was at that point | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
that evacuation began to be realistic to me. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
While Eric struggled to fit in with his host family, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
Kitty loved her new life. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
Can you describe the relationship between Kitty and her foster family? | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
She was very happy where she was. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
She and her foster parents became very close. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
So much so that they asked if they could adopt Kitty | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
if her mum and dad were killed in the Blitz. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
My mother seemed to resent this | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
as the foster parents stealing Kitty. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
Eric's mother decided to bring Eric and Kitty back to London in 1942. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:30 | |
They returned to school in Catford. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
A few months later, Eric was with his classmates in the dining hall | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
when an air-raid siren sounded. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
Kitty appeared in the doorway | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
when there was this very loud noise of the aero engines right overhead | 0:06:45 | 0:06:50 | |
and the teacher screamed to us to get under the tables, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
cos there was no time to go to the shelter. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
And then there was a bang as the bomb hit the roof. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:01 | |
I remember Kitty was at the door and she saw me, cos where | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
I was was not too far from the door, and she came running towards me... | 0:07:05 | 0:07:10 | |
..and then the bomb exploded | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
and that was the last thing I remember. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
A German aircraft had dropped an enormous bomb onto the school. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:26 | |
Eric and Kitty were trapped beneath tonnes of wreckage. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
So this is the footage at that time. Mm. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
So where were you, abouts? | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
Right under the rubble, there. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:39 | |
Does it feel almost surreal to know that, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
when this footage was being taken, you are there. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
Yeah, indeed. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
All under the rubble, like that. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
I mean...many other children, of course. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
After seven hours, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
Eric was miraculously found alive and taken to hospital. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
The initial prognosis the doctors gave to my father | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
on that first interview was that if I lived, which was doubtful, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
then I'd be permanently crippled for life. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
When Eric regained consciousness, all he could think about | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
was what had happened to his sister. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
I didn't know, really, where Kitty was. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
In fact, when I began to come round in hospital, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
my mother was coming in to see me every day. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
Er...I kept asking for Kitty. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
And then days passed. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
And, er, the sister's office had a big window | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
that looked into the ward | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
and I could see my mother talking to the sister | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
and then my mother came back. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
And, um, she said Kitty was dead. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
And, um, she'd been found a few yards away from me. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:03 | |
So Mum and I cried together. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
And that was it. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
Kitty was dead. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
The attack on the school resulted in the largest number of children | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
killed by one bomb in the whole of the war. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
Decades later, Eric discovered his mother | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
had kept a secret from him about that terrible day, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
which his brother, Eddie, revealed to him. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
Eddie and I were talking about the school | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
and I said what my mother had told me, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
that Kitty had been found a few yards away from me. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
And Eddie said, "No, that isn't right. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
"She was found lying on top of you, all down your right-hand side, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
"shielding you." It was Kitty who'd shielded me. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
Took the blows that would have killed me. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
Sorry. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:57 | |
A memorial in Catford pays tribute to the lives of the 38 children | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
and six teachers who were killed. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
How did it make you feel to find out years later | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
that Kitty had saved your life? | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
She could have run to the shelters herself and been saved. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
But she didn't - she came running to me. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
To have given up the chance of safety herself just to get to me. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
It made me think what a terrific girl Kitty was. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
Never forgotten it. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:34 | |
Incredible to think that little girl saved her brother's life. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
Now, June, when you were evacuated, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
did you feel safer being away from Ipswich? | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
Not really, no, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
cos it wasn't very dangerous in Ipswich, you see, at the time. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
It never was. There was only one raid on the docks. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
No, I was quite happy. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
There were one or two incidents, of course, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
because we lived with a very nice couple who didn't have any children. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
They'd taken these three girls - they were very quiet. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
And one day they decided they'd give us a treat | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
and take us to the theatre | 0:11:10 | 0:11:11 | |
and we went to see the musical comedy The Maid Of The Mountains. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
I'll start to sing you the song if you like, but I won't. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
And anyway, it was in three acts and after the second act, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
the warning sounded, the air-raid warning, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
and our Mr and Mrs Miller thought as they were in charge of us | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
they'd better take us home to that Anderson shelter in the garden, | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
which was corrugated steel, I suppose. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
And we were walking home and they were bombing Coventry | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
and it was red - the sky was full of flames and red - | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
and we could see the tracer bullets. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
Well, the ack-ack guns they were. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
And planes in the searchlights. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
So it was one of those awful situations, you know, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
where people are dying and killed. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
You'd been evacuated. You were a child. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
How long were you away from home? Did you miss home? | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
Oh, very little time, you see. I mean, we were home for Christmas. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
We'd gone, I think, probably about September. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
I don't think we were there longer than September, October, November, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
cos that was when it was, Coventry - November. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
And we went home for Christmas, you see, cos we felt we were safer | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
in Ipswich, where there weren't any air raids. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
Only one later on. Only once we went... | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
Well, we'd go down the shelter if there were warnings, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
cos the planes were always passing over us, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
but in the end we got to... | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
Poor mother, she'd say, "Come in the sh..." | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
"No, Mother, we're too tired. No, we're going to stay in bed. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
"No, we don't want to get up, Mother. No, we're too tired." | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
So we wouldn't get up. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
So, when you were back home in Ipswich, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
do you remember seeing planes flying overhead? | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
Well, mostly they flew overnight. We were a pathway, you see, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:49 | |
and they flew over us, so we got warnings because of it. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
But I did see duels in the sky | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
between the Spitfires and Messerschmitts | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
and also their bombers and, you know, if they shot one down, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
one saw that happen, | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
and the pilot in the Spitfire would do a victory roll. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
And tell us about the shelter that your aunt built in her garden. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:12 | |
Well, we had a really good shelter. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
It was a beach hut from Felixstowe. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
Well, since the beaches were mined all during the war | 0:13:17 | 0:13:22 | |
because, maybe, of invasion - stop them getting in - | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
Uncle decided to take it | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
and put it in the garden as an air-raid shelter. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
So, Uncle Eric and Uncle Bill dug the hole, put in the wooden hut | 0:13:30 | 0:13:35 | |
and covered it with the other earth | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
and that was supposed to be our bomb shelter. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
Well, it might have stopped the shrapnel, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
but I don't think it would have stopped the bombs. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
And do you remember being inside it? Oh, yes, that was the day | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
when I'd seen these bombs drop out of these planes | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
flying across the sky that I thought were Spitfires | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
and I thought, "Aren't they lovely?" | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
And the bomb bays opened and the bombs started falling | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
and I just thought, "Well, I'd better get inside." | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
And do you know, I was really frightened | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
once I was in the shelter. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
I didn't make a noise - you didn't make any noises | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
or moan or cry or groan. Oh, no, stiff upper lip. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
I was probably a bit white and a bit trembly | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
and she was a bit ashamed of me | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
but, you see, I couldn't see what was going on. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
But it's just being in that confined space and not being able to see. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
Incredible memories, June. So vivid all these years later, as well. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
We'll talk to you more later on. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
But now, when the First World War began, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
it was during an age of Empire. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
The men fighting for Britain came from across the world, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
but one country stood out for the sheer numbers of soldiers | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
it sent to fight. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
As many as one in six soldiers fighting with the British Army | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
were from India - more than the number from Wales, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
Scotland and Ireland combined. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
It's a contribution that often goes overlooked. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
Throughout history, man has waged war upon man. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
But in times of conflict, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:03 | |
selfless acts of bravery shine through. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
One man who knows this only too well is Ian Henderson, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:12 | |
whose grandfather's life was saved by an Indian soldier. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
My brother and I would not be here now, nor would my father have been. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
And I think that that is something which has a profound impact on you | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
when you think about it. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
As war broke out across Europe, British forces on the Continent | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
were vastly outnumbered by the advancing German army. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
To hold the line, | 0:15:43 | 0:15:44 | |
Britain called on the armies of the nations of the Empire. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
Many answered the call - a million from India. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
Jaimal Singh is the grandson of one of those Indian soldiers. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
His grandfather was in the second Ludhiana Sikh regiment. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
After finishing his schooling, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
he was taken in the Army and was a quite a senior officer. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:16 | |
And very handsome. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:17 | |
In 1914, Jaimal's grandfather, Manta Singh, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
left his family in the Punjab, to help the British war effort. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
He was enlisted to fight in the first major offensive | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
on the Western Front - the bloody Battle of Neuve Chapelle. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:37 | |
His regiment was called in the North of France to fight the Germans. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:45 | |
The weather conditions wasn't very good - | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
wet and all the dirt. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
As the battle raged, Manta Singh's regiment came under attack. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
His commanding officer, George Henderson, was in the firing line. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
They were advancing successfully against the Germans | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
but they overran their position | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
and my grandfather was caught by enfilading fire | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
and shot through both legs above the knee. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
My grandfather, Manta Singh, was assistant to Henderson | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
so it was his duty to look after him. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
Manta Singh, without hesitating, stopped and picked him up | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
and the story goes that as my grandfather was quite a big man, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
he put him in a wheelbarrow to get him back. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
But while Manta Singh was carrying out this selfless rescue, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
he too came under fire. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
He was bringing him back to the safety line | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
and, of course, while he was doing it he got shot in the leg. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
Jaimal's badly injured grandfather was then transported | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
to surroundings which couldn't have been more different | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
to the horrors of the trenches. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
The Royal Pavilion in Brighton | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
was built as an extravagant residence for King George IV. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
But in 1914, it found a new purpose. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
This Regency palace was turned into a field hospital | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
for the Indian soldiers injured on the Western Front. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
Jaimal has come to meet Kevin Bacon, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
a curator at Brighton's Royal Pavilion. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
Hello, Jaimal. I'm Kevin, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
and welcome to the Music Room of the Royal Pavilion. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
So, this was the room which was converted | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
for the Indian wounded soldiers, as a hospital? | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
That's correct. You may be interested in this photograph, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
which shows this room as it was used as a hospital ward in 1915. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:49 | |
More than 12,000 Indian soldiers | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
were brought here to Brighton to be treated. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
How come such a beautiful building | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
was used as a hospital for Indian wounded soldiers? | 0:19:02 | 0:19:09 | |
People often assume that because of the Indian influence | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
on the exterior of the Pavilion, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:13 | |
which looks very much like an Indian Mughal palace, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
that this is why it was used for Indian patients. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
The real reason is a little bit more complicated. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
Britain was utterly dependent on those Indian troops | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
fighting for its cause. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:26 | |
And using the Pavilion as a hospital was really to show how well | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
the Indian men were treated under British care. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
Looking at these people who are in the bed here, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
they are quite happy. I would feel very proud | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
if my grandfather would have been in this room. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
While he was in Brighton, | 0:19:47 | 0:19:48 | |
Manta Singh received the very best of care | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
but it wasn't enough to save him from his injuries. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
Unfortunately, my grandfather died of the wounds | 0:19:55 | 0:20:00 | |
and he died on the 20th of March, 1915. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:05 | |
Manta Singh's sacrifice had an extraordinary legacy. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
The descendants of Captain Henderson have never forgotten his bravery. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:18 | |
Hello, Jaimal. Hello, Ian. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
And later in the programme, we'll be reuniting the two grandsons. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
Wasn't too good before, was it? | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
Every year, nearly half a million people visit the museum. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
Some of them are veterans, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
others are the children or grandchildren of veterans. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
Here's a flavour of some of the people we've met today. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
Well, it's the sense of history about the place, of course, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
and all of my very happy memories. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
It was a very happy station, Duxford. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
This is where I was born. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:04 | |
I mean, where I live now in Australia, well, you know, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
coming back to a place where I was actually born is really good. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
Yeah, really sort of a bit nostalgic, really. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
It's just so interesting. There's so much going on here | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
and every time you come up here, there's always something different. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
There's things here that I read about when I was in school | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
and that I thought I'd never get a chance to see | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
and here they're all in one place. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
Really came along just to show my grandson | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
some of the old aircraft. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:35 | |
Just let him have a... | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
Spike in his interest in maybe aviation - I don't know. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
It's quite nice - I like looking at the old planes | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
and so far he's liked it as well. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
Now, I will explain why I'm dressed like this in a moment, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
but this area full of old military vehicles is tucked away | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
in a corner here at the museum and a man who knows all about it | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
is Vic, who joins me now. Just tell us what actually happens here. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
Well, the volunteers here at Duxford, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
we renovate many vehicles for the museum, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
for ourselves and for other museums, too. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
And this one, for example - this was part of Gulf War I, wasn't it? | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
Yes, it was. It's a Centurion operated by the Royal Engineers | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
and that was in Gulf War I | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
and actually pulled down Saddam's portrait in that war. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:25 | |
And you've got one over there I can see through... | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
By the tree over there with Russian writing on it. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
Yeah, that's a T-34 from the Second World War. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
One of the most famous tanks | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
used by the Russians during the Second World War. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
And how many have you got here in total? | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
In total, we have about 63 here. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
So people come here, they come and work on these - | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
help you restore them? | 0:22:41 | 0:22:42 | |
That's right, they work on them and then hopefully we show them | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
and make use of them or put them in the museum as an exhibit. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
Right, and it's not just about restoring them, is it? | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
Because the reason you've dressed me like this is because...? | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
We actually do armoured personnel vehicle rides and drives | 0:22:53 | 0:22:58 | |
and we thought you'd like to have a drive in one of our | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
armoured personnel carriers. I'm driving? You certainly are. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
That one with Andy standing in it? That one over there with Andy. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
Who's driving - me or him? Definitely be you. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
Ah, he's just going to be telling me where to go. Are you up for it? | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
I'm definitely up for that. I might ignore him. Come on, then. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
That's your seat in there. Are you ready for this? Yeah. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
Straight, straight, straight. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
So, it doesn't really matter what I do, it's all going to be your fault. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
Up that mount? Yeah. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
OK, where am I going? You're going left. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
Literally pulling one lever to go left, one to go right, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
putting your foot on the gas. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
MUSIC DROWNS SPEECH | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
Whoo! Go on, power on. Power, put the power on, get the power on. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
Keep the power on. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
And prepare to stop, slow down, slow down, slow down and stop there. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
Are the newest tanks as noisy as this? | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
They're noisier, to be honest. Really? Yeah, yeah. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
They're not covert vehicles, these things. Fun? You have fun? | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
Great. Really good to drive. Well commanded. Very well driven. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:21 | |
Still to come on today's programme... | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
HE PLAYS Roses Of Picardy | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
..the world's only one handed concert pianist, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
Nicholas McCarthy, plays a wartime classic. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
And I'll be taking a peek inside a Field Marshal's caravan. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
Now, 2015 marks the 70th anniversary of the end of World War II. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:53 | |
In a moment, June will share some of her memories of that time | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
but first, some other familiar faces share their memories of VE Day. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:01 | |
I was ten when the war ended | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
and I had a huge wall chart | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
on the wall of our kitchen. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
It was the only room downstairs, actually, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
but the kitchen, we called it. And I used to chart the progress | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
of the Allied advance across Europe. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
The BBC had a bulletin every day where they'd tell you exactly | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
what the movements were and when it started moving the right way, | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
I got very obsessed by that so I'd mark in red all the way along the... | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
Germans were black and we were red. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
Michael Parkinson was at home in Yorkshire when he heard the news. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
I remember on the day that war was ended, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
I was really cross because they spoilt my game. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
What was I going to do for the rest of my life, I thought. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
This has been my obsession for all these years. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
REPORTER: The great news ran through the land - | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
Manchester, Glasgow, Cardiff, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
Birmingham, London - the end of the German war. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
Jilly Cooper was at home in Surrey. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
My mother was bashing up some wisteria, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
cos if you bash up stems, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
it gets the water in and she was bashing up some stems of wisteria | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
and suddenly we heard on the wireless | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
the war was over. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
And my mother said, "Pinch me. Pinch me that I know I'm awake." | 0:26:19 | 0:26:24 | |
And so I sort of gave her a little pinch and then she said... | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
Burst into floods of tears and she said... | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
I said, "What's the matter?" | 0:26:32 | 0:26:33 | |
I thought we must've lost the war or something. I was so worried. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
Then she said, "No, we've won, we've won." | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
She wiped her eyes with her apron, | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
we ran into the street and everybody was cheering and yelling. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
It was heaven. Absolute heaven. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:44 | |
In the East End of London, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
Kenny Lynch was just finishing school for the day. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
My sister was waiting at the gate for me | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
and I came out and she said, | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
"It's over. It's over. The war's over." | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
I came out of school and there were people cuddling each other | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
and jumping up and down. It was like they'd won a football match | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
or something - it was that kind of sort of atmosphere going on. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
Obviously, the war ends - it's going to be fantastic, isn't it? | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
Everybody started loving each other for a little while. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
Esther Rantzen was in the garden of her family home in Hertfordshire. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
My grandmother was carrying around a radio, | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
a battery radio, | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
and she was carrying it round the garden... | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
SHE SIGHS | 0:27:34 | 0:27:35 | |
I can't imagine why I feel so emotional... | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
..but I think that what I remember was her joy. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
It was extraordinary. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
The wonderful news of peace. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
Germany's surrender took most people by surprise. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
So did the evening newsflash announcing that the next day | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
would be a public holiday to celebrate victory in Europe. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
David Attenborough was living with his parents in Leicestershire. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:25 | |
My older brother Richard was in the RAF | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
as a rear gunner and a cameraman. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
I was waiting to go up to Cambridge and so I was in the Home Guard. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
I was Private whatever his name is in the Home Guard | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
with the muffler. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
REPORTER: This was the British people's finest day - | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
the end of the German war. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
I don't honestly remember suddenly crouching behind the radio | 0:28:48 | 0:28:53 | |
and listening to it, as we do in the documentaries. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
No. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
I can't recall that but we were... Certain great jubilation. Yeah. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:06 | |
And when it was declared to be May the 8th, that was great. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
And May the 8th was also my 19th birthday. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
Well, some wonderful memories of VE Day there. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
What do you remember of VE Day? | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
Not very much, really. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
It was a private party | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
because I was up in Scotland, in Ardentinny, | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
at the ledge of Loch Long. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
There was a submarine base up at the top, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
and we had parties on the landing craft tank. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
I would say I was drinking pink gin at the time - | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
it was a naval drink. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
I think it's gin and Angostura bitters | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
and we had fireworks and the lights were on | 0:29:49 | 0:29:53 | |
but they weren't great lights | 0:29:53 | 0:29:54 | |
cos there was only Dunoon down here and Greenock and Gourock over there | 0:29:54 | 0:29:58 | |
and mountains behind us | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
so it was just a little, quiet celebration, | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
nothing to do with London. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
And you were in Scotland. You had joined the Wrens. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
When did you join the Wrens? | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
When I was 18, I would've been called up, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
but at 17?, I could choose my service | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
and I didn't want to go into the Waaf or the Ats, you know, | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
because their uniform wouldn't have suited me complexion | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
so I decided that I'd like to go into the Wrens. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
I was a cinema operator. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
I used to show films, training films, to the sailors | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
and I used to roll them their ticklers while they... | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
Their ticklers were their roll-up cigarettes. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
I'd have their tins and I'd roll them cigarettes | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
and pass them through. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:41 | |
And what about the spirit during World War II? | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
What are your memories of that? | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
Oh, well, it was quite incredible. It was. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
People knock it now | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
but it isn't true that people were all terrified - it really isn't. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:55 | |
And it is true that we thought we would win because of Churchill. | 0:30:55 | 0:31:00 | |
He was so positive. He didn't think we'd win himself - | 0:31:00 | 0:31:04 | |
there was a lot of misgivings there, I believe - | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
but as far as we were concerned we'd do this, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
we'd fight on the beaches, we'll fight... And they would have done. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
And my uncle was in the Home Guard and it wasn't like Dad's Army. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:18 | |
You know, they were trained, these young men. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
A lot of them were youngish men. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
But your overriding memory | 0:31:24 | 0:31:25 | |
isn't one of people being terrified, as you say? | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
No, but maybe I lived in a part of the country | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
where I didn't suffer so much. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
We didn't suffer so much. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
You know, we didn't... | 0:31:36 | 0:31:37 | |
One of my great aunts had her house bombed in the East End | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
and came down and lived with Grandma, you know, | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
who'd left the East End a long time ago. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
She didn't seem particularly perturbed about it. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
Maybe she was - I don't know. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
Well, June, wonderful. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:53 | |
Thank you so much for sharing your memories with us. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
Now, this museum site is vast and it spans a mile. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
Andy is exploring another corner of it. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
I'm in the Land Warfare section and many of the exhibits here | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
have an incredible history, including these caravans. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:12 | |
They belonged to Field Marshal Montgomery, | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
one of THE most celebrated commanders in the Second World War. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
I'm joined by curator John Delaney. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
John, thank you very much for letting me wander round. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
Now, these things are incredible and as an ex-soldier, | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
I had no idea that the battle in North Africa was commanded | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
effectively from a trio of caravans. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
That's correct, yes. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:35 | |
The three caravans in question were collected by Monty along the way. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
When he arrived in North Africa, he acquired the office caravan, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
which was captured from an Italian general... Right. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
..and then at the end of the North African campaign | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
he got a second one | 0:32:46 | 0:32:47 | |
and then prior to the D-Day operation, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
he actually asked for a third one to be built specifically | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
for his map collection. Ah, right, so these weren't just North Africa - | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
they were across the whole of Europe? That's correct. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
All the way from North Africa before El-Alamein, | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
through to Luneburg Heath in Germany at the end of the war. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
OK, so what did he actually use each caravan for? | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
Well, the caravan directly behind us was his office caravan, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
which he used for sort of almost meditating on | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
what his next move would be on the battlefield. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
And then behind us is his map caravan, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
which he used to plot the course of the army's progress on | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
and then further away, behind the one behind us, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
is his bedroom caravan which he used to live in, his living quarters. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
He had an actual bedroom - | 0:33:24 | 0:33:25 | |
his bedroom just for him and no-one else? | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
That was his bedroom, for him and no-one else. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
He said he would only turn out of it for two people | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
and that was the King and Winston Churchill. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
And did he ever have to do that? | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
Yes, both King and Winston Churchill visited him. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
The King in north-west Europe and there is | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
contemporary photography of him and the king in the caravan together. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
Now, I noticed in one of the caravans | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
there was a portrait of Rommel, the German commander. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
Why did he have a portrait of Rommel? | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
Well, in the office caravan, which he used sort of as | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
a meditation area when he was sort of figuring out what | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
he was going to do next, when he was writing his orders, | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
he would put portrait images of the enemy commanders | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
he was facing at that point in time up on the wall | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
and sit and look at them | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
and contemplate what his opposition was like | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
and what their moves were going to be on the battlefield. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
He said he felt it helped him come up with battlefield solutions. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
And these aren't reconstructions, you know, | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
these are the original caravans that he worked from, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:19 | |
the King and Winston Churchill visited, | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
and they are as they were in the war? That's right. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
At the end of the war they were gifted to Monty | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
by sort of a grateful nation and he kept them in a barn at his house | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
and they were kept exactly as they were on the last day of the war. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
Everything inside is sort of a time capsule of that last day. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
In the office caravan, for example, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
there's a drawer full of medal ribbons that he would hand out | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
to the troops and even in one of the drawers in there, as well, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
there is a set of his underwear. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
Well, John, it's fascinating to see these things, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
which I didn't even know existed, to be honest. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
Thank you very much for showing us round. Thank you. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
Earlier in the programme, we heard the story | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
of the incredibly brave Sikh soldier Manta Singh, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
who died saving the life of his English commander. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
Well, 100 years later, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
a very special relationship has come from that sacrifice. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
A century ago, Manta Singh was brought to Britain for treatment | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
after he was injured saving the life of a young English captain. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
He died in Brighton and his grandson Jaimal has come here to remember him. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:33 | |
When my grandfather was cremated, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
his ashes were scattered according to our religion | 0:35:37 | 0:35:42 | |
along the coast in Brighton. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
Manta Singh was one of nearly 75,000 Indian soldiers | 0:35:47 | 0:35:51 | |
who died fighting for Britain in the First World War. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
In 1921, on this windswept hillside, | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
a memorial was unveiled by the Prince of Wales | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
to honour all those who had fallen. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
It is called Chattri, which means "umbrella" in Punjabi. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
Under the umbrella, these people who are cremated here | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
are supposed to be protected by God. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
Jaimal is here to pay his respects. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
We feel very proud what our grandfather did for Britain. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
And he was cremated at this very spot. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
We are so happy that when we come here our children, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:37 | |
great-grandchildren, all Manta Singh's relatives | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
come and pay their homage. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
Although Manta Singh died, Captain Henderson's life was saved - | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
and his descendants have never forgotten it. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
His grandson Ian has come to meet Jaimal today. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
Hello, Jaimal. Hello, Ian! Very nice to see you again. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
The memorial is a place of pilgrimage for both families, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
where they come to remember Manta Singh and his extraordinary legacy. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:08 | |
"Manta Singh. Subadar." | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
"15th Ludhiana Sikhs." Yeah. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
But for your grandfather, | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
my grandfather would also have been buried somewhere. True. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
And my father would never have been born and nor would I, | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
cos my father wasn't born until 1916 and so I would never be here, | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
nor would my family. True. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
So we owe a great deal to the Johal family. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
The connection between the two families has lasted 100 years. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
Not only did their grandfathers fight together - | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
so, too, did their fathers. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
My father and Jaimal's father became very close, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
cos they were both commissioned into the battalion. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
And they fought together in very difficult situations | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
and in retirement they both enjoyed reminiscing very happily | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
for many hours. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
And like their fathers, | 0:38:02 | 0:38:03 | |
they are equally happy to catch up and reminisce. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
My grandfather there, isn't it? Yes. Yes. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
I think that's him. Which is your father? | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
There's my father with the colours. He's there in the corner. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
And there's... And that's your... ..Dad there. There we are. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
I'm delighted to see Jaimal today | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
and it's very nice that two years ago, | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
my daughter was at Chattri with three of my grandchildren | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
and the other side, there were five of the Johal family, | 0:38:29 | 0:38:34 | |
a further generation down. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
The bond forged in war between these two men | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
may well last another 100 years. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
It really is the case that so many of us wouldn't be here today | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
if it weren't for the courage and sacrifice of those men | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
who fought in the trenches. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
With us now is Nicholas McCarthy. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
You are the world's only one-handed concert pianist. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:01 | |
Now, you began at the age of 14. How did that come about? | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
It's quite a title, isn't it, that? | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
Well, I actually wanted to be a chef, which... | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
I don't know why I was drawn to these dexterous jobs | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
with only one hand but here I am today. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
Yes, I am the only one-handed concert pianist | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
and I started at the age of 14. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
I found a friend of mine who was an amazing pianist, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
who played a Beethoven sonata, and I just had one of those moments | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
where I just thought, "That's what I want to do. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
"I want to become a concert pianist." | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
Not thinking about the fact that I only have one hand but, yeah. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
But how do you play? I mean, is the music specially adapted for you? | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
A lot of the stuff I play is actually original material | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
from the 19th century onwards, | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
which is written just for the left hand alone, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
which is quite a tradition in itself, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
but recently I've been moving into adapting pieces | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
and arranging pieces for the left hand alone. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
And you've got a particular passion for music that was written | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
or composed around the World War I period. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
That's right. Without a certain man called Paul Wittgenstein... | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
He was a concert pianist and he actually went into battle | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
and very quickly lost his right arm in battle, as so many did, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
and he returned and he was very, very... You know, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:09 | |
he was so gallant and very, very determined | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
to continue his career of becoming a concert pianist. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
So, he decided to use his wealth - he's from quite a wealthy family - | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
and he decided to commission | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
all of the celebrity composers of the day, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
so Ravel and Prokofiev and Benjamin Britten... | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
He paid them vast amounts of money to write left-hand-alone concertos | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
for him and what he also did was he would arrange | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
well-known two-handed pieces but arrange them for left hand alone | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
in order to keep up his solo concert career. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
So, he's a very steely, determined man. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
What are you going to play for us now? | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
Well, I've done one of my own arrangements of Roses Of Picardy, | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
which was a huge hit in the First World War. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
Everyone, both in battle and on the home front, absolutely loved | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
this piece and it grossed, I think, 100,000 or something. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
It was a real massive, massive hit | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
and I wanted to arrange this piece for left hand alone | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
as a tribute to that era. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
Well, can't wait to hear it. We'll leave it to you. Thank you. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
HE PLAYS Roses Of Picardy | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
The incredible Nicholas McCarthy. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:06 | |
Well, that is it for today's programme. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
June, it's been wonderful having you here. Thank you. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
Oh, it's been lovely being here. I really mean it, you know, | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
to see all these enormous planes. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
You know, I walked under a Vulcan | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
and I thought I was wandering under a tin roof | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
and it was its tail! | 0:43:21 | 0:43:22 | |
I mean, how do they get up in the air? You really do ask yourself. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
They're incredible, incredible to see. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
Well, coming up on tomorrow's programme... | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
But for this business, I've got to say I'm out. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
..Duncan Bannatyne, formerly of the Dragons' Den, | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
tells us about his father's service in the Far East. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
We meet the Bomber Command veteran | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
heading back into a Lancaster for the first time | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
since the Second World War. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:48 | |
When the engines started and we started taxiing | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
and bumpity, bumpity bump | 0:43:52 | 0:43:54 | |
and after 70 years, it's almost like a dream. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
And a soldier shares his story about the new battle he faced | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
when he came back from war. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:04 | |
It was just trying to give yourself a reason, I guess, to carry on, | 0:44:05 | 0:44:11 | |
I suppose, and want to carry on. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:12 | |
From all of us here at the Imperial War Museum, Duxford, goodbye. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:17 | |
Goodbye. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 |