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Sometimes, I would hear a car crunch up in the snow, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
and I'd think maybe it would be somebody coming to give us bad news, | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
which was not good for me to think. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
It was an underlying anxiety that I really think was there all the time. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:25 | |
Denton Crocker Jr, known as Mogie, wanted to serve in Vietnam so much, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:32 | |
he'd pressured his parents into granting their permission | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
for him to join the army before he was 18. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
He was eager for combat, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:42 | |
and pleased when he was assigned to the 1st Brigade | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
of the celebrated 101st Airborne, the Screaming Eagles, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
who had led the way on D-Day. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
But he was quickly disappointed | 0:00:54 | 0:00:55 | |
to find himself attached to battalion headquarters | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
repairing weapons, making lists, keeping records. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:04 | |
It was boring, he wrote home. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
"I think, perhaps, you will understand my disappointment | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
"when you see that there is little sense in being over here | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
"unless one faces the main objective - | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
"the destruction of the VC. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:18 | |
"Certainly, one feels no sense of accomplishment | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
"when one's friends are facing all the dangers." | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
What's your thinking these days? I haven't talked to you. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
What's happening to our polls? | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
See, I think you'll find some foreign leaders | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
will criticise you if you resume bombing. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
As a matter of fact, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
no other intelligence source that I've seen | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
indicates that Hanoi is even considering | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
moving toward negotiation in order to lead us to extend the pause. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:01 | |
# Now, masters of war | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
# You build all the big guns... # | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
As they continued to escalate the war, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
Johnson and McNamara were frustrated that American commanders in Vietnam, | 0:02:16 | 0:02:22 | |
who had come of age during World War II and Korea, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
were having a hard time making sense of what was happening on the ground. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:30 | |
In the months and years to come, as the American presence grew, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:36 | |
Hanoi would escalate, too, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
sending more and more soldiers south, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
strengthening its own air defences and recruiting more fighters | 0:02:41 | 0:02:46 | |
from the alienated South Vietnamese countryside. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
The Johnson administration was desperately trying | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
to prop up the government in Saigon, | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
and at the same time, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
help that government to somehow win the loyalty of its own people. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
Johnson had tried to forge an international coalition | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
to defend South Vietnam, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
but only five other countries would ever send combat troops - | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
Australia and New Zealand, Thailand, the Philippines and South Korea. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:23 | |
America's most important allies - Britain, France, and Canada - | 0:03:25 | 0:03:30 | |
refused to take part | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
and were calling, instead, for peace talks. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
And more and more Americans, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
including some of the country's most respected foreign policy experts, | 0:03:39 | 0:03:44 | |
were beginning to question the way the war was being fought, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
whether it could ever be won, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
and if the United States should be in Vietnam at all. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
As 1966 began, | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
2,344 Americans had died in Vietnam, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:05 | |
nearly 200,000 were stationed there, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
and more were on their way. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
Those soldiers would quickly discover | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
that the war they were being asked to fight | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
was not their father's war. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
We tend to fight the next war in the same way we fought the last one. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:29 | |
We are prisoners of our own experience. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
And many of the things that we learned that worked in World War II | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
were not applicable to the war in Vietnam. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
We simply thought we'd go in with a sledgehammer | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
and knock things down, clean them up and it would be all over. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
It was kind of an oversimplification of the problem. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
Combined with our overconfidence, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
it caused us, I think, to be arrogant. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
And it's very, very difficult to dispel ignorance | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
if you retain arrogance. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
On January 31st, President Johnson had decided | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
to resume the bombing of targets in North Vietnam. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
The 37-day pause that had begun on Christmas Eve 1965 | 0:05:38 | 0:05:43 | |
had yielded no hint of Hanoi's willingness | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
to come to the negotiating table. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
In South Vietnam, Viet Cong guerrillas | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
were now believed to control nearly three-quarters of the country. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
But General William Westmoreland, the American commander, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
thought his most urgent task was to destroy | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
the North Vietnamese regular army units | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
Hanoi was sending south. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
To do that, he would ask for more and more American soldiers. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:18 | |
The strongest impression I had from my class, and my classmates, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
was they were guys who just were idealists. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
And I think guys drawn from little towns | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
all across the United States had that in common. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
It was a time before the questions about American exceptionalism. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
We didn't question. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:42 | |
We believed in what this country stood for, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
and we believed that people who had the ability to lead soldiers | 0:06:46 | 0:06:52 | |
should do that. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
Roger Harris dreamed of going to college on a football scholarship, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:02 | |
but was not big enough to play for his team in high school. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
And so I enlisted in the Marine Corps, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
and I felt that it was a win-win, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
because, one, if I died, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
then my mother would be able to receive | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
the 10,000 insurance policy. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
I thought that was a lot of money and so my mother would be rich. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
"If I die, you know, she'll be rich. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
"If I live, then I'll be a hero, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
"you know, and I can come back and get a job." | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
Naive, dumb, you know. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
John Musgrave was from the Fairmount neighbourhood | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
of Independence, Missouri. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
I was 17, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:42 | |
and my best friend and I went down and enlisted in the Marine Corps. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
I always dreamed of being a Marine. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
And... | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
..well... | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
..I knew I wasn't going to be a man right away, | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
but I was going to be a Marine, and that was enough. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
I'd be doing something mature, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
and I'd be doing something that was important. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
And there was a war on, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
and I wanted a piece of it. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
I grew up in segregated neighbourhoods all my life, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
so I'd never met a black person till I arrived at boot camp. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
Never stood next to a black person, or a Hispanic, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
or anyone who was Jewish. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:26 | |
Just...they didn't mix, where I grew up. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
So, that was just eye-opening. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
But when I got to talking to everybody, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
we were all the same - we were all working-class and poor, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
and we all wanted to be Marines real bad. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
The tendency for a great power is to use what it's greatest at, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:56 | |
namely, its firepower, destructive power - | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
dropping a lot of bombs and shooting a lot of artillery at a distance. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:04 | |
You save lives. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
You kill a lot of them. You don't lose a lot of us. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
The central coastal province of Binh Dinh | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
was home to more than half a million people. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
For decades, it had been a guerrilla stronghold, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
and in early 1966, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
the Viet Cong had been augmented by North Vietnamese regulars, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:27 | |
some 8,000 men in all. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
General Westmoreland sent 20,000 American, South Vietnamese | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
and South Korean troops storming across the province | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
in pursuit of the enemy and their sources of supply. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:45 | |
They first dropped leaflets and broadcast from loudspeakers | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
to warn villagers of the terrible fate | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
that awaited anyone who fired on their helicopters, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
urged them to leave their homes, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
promised safe passage to any Viet Cong who wished to surrender. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:02 | |
Then they called in air strikes and artillery, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
and blew the hamlets to bits. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
It was the first large-scale search and destroy campaign of the war. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:16 | |
GUNFIRE | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
The offensive lasted 42 days. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
The army reported 2,389 enemy soldiers killed. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:29 | |
Westmoreland was pleased. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
But the operation would drive | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
more than 100,000 civilians from their homes. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
Similar search and destroy and bombing campaigns - | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
17 large-scale US offensives in 1966 alone - | 0:10:44 | 0:10:49 | |
would produce a total of more than three million homeless people | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
all across the country - | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
roughly one-fifth of South Vietnam's population. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
Since there was no front in Vietnam, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
as there had been in the First and Second World Wars, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
since no ground was ever permanently won or lost, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
the American military command in Vietnam, MACV, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
fell back more and more | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
on a single grisly measure of supposed success - | 0:11:22 | 0:11:27 | |
counting corpses, body count. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
The problem with the war, as it often is, are the metrics. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
It is a situation where, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
if you can't count what's important, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
you make what you can count important. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
So, in this particular case, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
what you could count was dead enemy bodies. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
If body count is | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
the measure of success, | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
then there's a tendency to count | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
every body as an enemy soldier. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
There's a tendency to want to pile up dead bodies, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
and, perhaps, to use less discriminate firepower | 0:12:09 | 0:12:15 | |
than you otherwise might | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
in order to achieve the result | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
that you're charged with trying to obtain. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
Just think about the problem from the North's point of view. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
They had to supply the South. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
I'm talking about bringing in people, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
equipment, supplies and so forth. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
They started from nothing | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
and pushed a road through that... | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
..through an area the size of Massachusetts, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
and then maintained it. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
For years, Hanoi had smuggled | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
most of its arms and supplies to the South | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
aboard an improvised fleet of junks, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
trawlers and freighters. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
But when the US Navy effectively blockaded the southern coastline, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:26 | |
the North Vietnamese would be forced to move | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
almost all of their supplies overland, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
through Laos and Cambodia - | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
neutral countries Hanoi considered part of the greater battlefield. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:39 | |
Americans called it the Ho Chi Minh trail. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
The North Vietnamese called it Route 559, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
after the men and women of the 559th Army Corps | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
who were turning it from a braided web of footpaths | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
into 12,000 tangled miles of jungle roadways | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
down which men and materials streamed south. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
When they had fought the French, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
the Viet Minh had depended on tens of thousands of porters, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
then on legions of bicycles. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
Now, to offset the growing American presence, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
the North Vietnamese used more mechanised transport - | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
relays of six-wheeled, Russian-built trucks | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
travelling under cover of darkness. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
MACV reasoned that if the Ho Chi Minh Trail | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
could somehow be sufficiently damaged, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
the enemy would be unable to sustain itself. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
Three million tonnes of explosives would eventually be dropped | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
on the Laos portion of the trail alone - | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
a million more tonnes than fell on Germany and Japan | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
during all of World War II. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
As many as 230,000 teenagers, many of them volunteers, | 0:14:56 | 0:15:02 | |
worked to keep the roads open and the traffic moving. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
More than half of them were women. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
Le Minh Khue, who had left her home in the north | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
with a novel by Ernest Hemingway in her backpack, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
observed her 17th birthday on the trail. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
Thousands died on the trail from starvation and accidents, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:43 | |
fevers and snakebite and sheer exhaustion, | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
as well as from the relentless bombing. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
# Oh-oh, smokestack lightnin'... # | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
Mogie Crocker had spent most of his boyhood reading about war, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:58 | |
but nothing had prepared him for what he would experience | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
in Quang Duc province on the Cambodian border. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
He had deliberately fouled up his work | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
at battalion headquarters so badly that he had finally been reassigned | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
to what he wanted most - a combat unit. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
# Whoa-oh, tell me, baby | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
# What's the matter with you? | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
# Why don't you hear me crying? | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
# Ooh-ooh... # | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
Not hearing, in those days, was so difficult. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
There'd be at least eight to ten days, usually, | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
between letters. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
So, knowing he was in action, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
you just didn't know what, you know, might be going on. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
Mogie's battalion commander, Lieutenant Colonel Henry Emerson, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:49 | |
known as the Gunfighter, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:50 | |
was courageous, implacable, relentless. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
A few months before Mogie got there, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
he had offered a case of whisky to the first of his men | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
to bring in the hacked-off head of an enemy soldier. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
They did. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
When Colonel Emerson learned that four companies of North Vietnamese | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
were preparing an ambush, he decided to ambush the ambushers. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
On May 11th, he ordered his men to attack, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
backed by massive air and artillery strikes. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
Before the fighting ended, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
some 2,000 shells had slammed into the enemy positions. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:35 | |
Blood was everywhere - pooled on the ground, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
smeared on leaves and grass and bamboo. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
There were scores of corpses, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
torn to pieces or blown into the earth, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
hidden in thickets, half buried in scooped-out graves. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:54 | |
The earthshaking concussions | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
had blown the eyeballs of some of them from their heads. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
In the midst of the fighting, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:03 | |
Mogie's squad was moving along a narrow path | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
when two enemy machine guns opened up on them. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
GUNFIRE | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
His closest friend was fatally wounded. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
Mogie crouched in front of him, radioed for suppressive fire, | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
and then, as both machine guns continued shooting, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
he carried his dying friend off the battlefield. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
For his courage, he would be awarded the Army Commendation Medal. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
# Oh, Sergeant, I'm a draftee And I've just arrived in camp | 0:19:49 | 0:19:54 | |
# I've come to wear the uniform And join the martial tramp... # | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
The war, by 1966, began to impact the middle class | 0:19:58 | 0:20:04 | |
because the draft calls had to be enlarged. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
They couldn't get enough people to volunteer, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
or draft people out of the working class. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
They started drafting people out of college, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
and that's when the anti-war movement | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
shifted from a moral movement to a self-interest movement, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
driven by people who didn't want to go to war, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
and their loved ones, who didn't want them to go to war. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
# And I know that it won't matter That I've never killed before. # | 0:20:30 | 0:20:35 | |
The draft was a consuming issue | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
for young men of Bill Zimmerman's generation. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
By 1966, 30,000 men were being called up each month. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:49 | |
But more than half of the 27 million American men | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
who came of age during the war | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
avoided military service | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
through exemptions and deferments. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
A million young men served in the Reserves, or National Guard, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
with the expectation they would never be sent into combat. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
Reservists and guardsmen were almost always white, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
generally better educated, better connected, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
and better paid than draftees. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
"If you've got the dough," GIs said, "you don't have to go." | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
The result was an army heavily skewed | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
toward minorities and the underprivileged. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
# Mr Backlash, Mr Backlash | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
# Just who do you think I am? | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
# You raise my taxes freeze my wages | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
# And send my son to Vietnam... # | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
For a time, African-Americans, | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
though they represented only 12% of the population, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
suffered a disproportionate number of casualties. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
Resentment began to grow. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
We've got to build so much strength in building our community | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
that if they come to get one person, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
they're going to have to mess with us all. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:05 | |
That's what we've got to do. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
-That's what we've got to do. -APPLAUSE | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
We've got to build so much strength | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
inside our community, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
so that when LBJ says, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:15 | |
"Come here, boy," to my boy, we say, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
-"Hell, no, we ain't going." -CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
I'm not going to help nobody get something my Negroes don't have. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
If I'm going to die, I'll die now, right here, fighting you. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
If I'm going to die, you're my enemy. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
My enemy is the white people, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:34 | |
not the Viet Cong or Chinese or Japanese. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
You're my opposer when I want freedom. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
You're my opposer when I want justice. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
You're my opposer when I want equality. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:42 | |
And you want me to go somewhere and fight, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
but you won't even stand up for me here at home! | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
But a majority of Americans, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
old and young, supported the war. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
# Glory, glory, hallelujah | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
# His truth is marching on. # | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
I was brought up to believe that the Communists were | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
people who destroyed the family, destroyed religion. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:04 | |
And people who had no allegiance to our country, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
but to international communism. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
My mother would describe them as... | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
..which means that these are people | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
with the head of a water buffalo and the face of a horse, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
meaning that they were subhumans and they were brutal. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
But on the other hand, I thought, "They also include | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
"people like my sister, Thang, and a lot of my cousins." | 0:24:28 | 0:24:33 | |
I couldn't quite reconcile the two images. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
But, of the two, I think the other image was much stronger, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
because I was so scared of them. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
I thought, "These people must be really, really horrible people." | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
That was the frame of mind I had | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
when I started doing research into the communist movement. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
Duong Van Mai was the daughter of an official | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
in the South Vietnamese government, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
and was now married to an American, David Elliot. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
Back in 1964, she had gone to work for the RAND Corporation in Saigon. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:10 | |
The think tank had been commissioned by Robert McNamara | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
to do a study of enemy prisoners to find out who are the Viet Cong, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:19 | |
and what makes them tick? | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
I remember my first interview. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
I was by myself, I was very young, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
and I was going to this pretty grim prison | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
to interview this high-ranking cadre who had been captured. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
I went in thinking, "I'm going to meet this beast." | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
You know, this guy with the head of a water buffalo | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
and the face of a horse. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
But here was a man who had devoted all his life | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
to fight for what he called the just cause - | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
to free his country of foreign domination, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
to reunify the country under just government. | 0:25:55 | 0:26:00 | |
So, he really, totally believed in it, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
to the point that he'd sacrifice his whole life to this cause. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
So, when I left, I was very impressed with him. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
When the RAND report was presented | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
to McNamara's top deputies at the Pentagon, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
describing the Viet Cong as a dedicated enemy | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
that could only be defeated at enormous cost, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
one senior official said, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
"If what you say is true, we're fighting on the wrong side - | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
"the side that's going to lose this war." | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
GUNFIRE | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
Most of the fighting in Vietnam was small-scale, close up, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
and initiated by the elusive enemy. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
The military called it contact. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
"War is hell," grunts like to say, "but contact is a mother." | 0:26:50 | 0:26:55 | |
Six months into his tour, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
Lieutenant Mike Heaney from Basking Ridge, New Jersey, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
undertook what he and his men thought | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
would be an easy assignment - | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
climb a slope not far from their base at An Khe, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
and drive a small enemy mortar unit off a ridgeline. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
As soon as we started out, we started to get some bad vibes. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
And all of a sudden, the very point man - | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
the first guy in the column, Sergeant Mayes - | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
without saying anything, just put his M16 up to his shoulder, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
and fired off a round. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
Then he turned around, and he said, "VC on the trail. VC on the trail." | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
Before I had a chance to digest this, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
he went down - shot right through the chest. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
Boom. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:46 | |
And all of a sudden, | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
what was a very well-laid ambush erupted. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
Heaney's radio operator, Private Terry Carpenter, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
got the company commander on the line. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
"We've run into something bad," Heaney said. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
At that moment, a bullet hit Carpenter in the head. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:09 | |
I knew Terry was down. I knew Sergeant Mayes was down. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
I had asked the first machine-gun crew to come up | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
and start laying down machine-gun fire. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
They got blown away pretty quickly. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
At that point, there wasn't anybody left | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
in my forward unit. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
Every one of them had been taken down except me. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
Every one. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
Every one had been killed, or mortally wounded at that point. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
Night fell. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
What was left of Heaney's company braced for the assault | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
they assumed would come at dawn. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
Then the enemy began to lob mortar shells | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
among Heaney's men. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
I felt like somebody had taken a bat and hit me on my calf - | 0:28:51 | 0:28:56 | |
my right calf - as hard as he could. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
I was so stunned by the shock of being hit, | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
and I just...drew in a deep breath of air | 0:29:02 | 0:29:07 | |
in terrible pain. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:08 | |
I couldn't speak. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
Right after the ambush happened - | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
and I knew I'd lost a bunch of guys - | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
I said a prayer to God, saying, basically, | 0:29:15 | 0:29:20 | |
"If you need any more guys from my platoon, take me. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
"Don't take any more of my men." | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
As soon as I said it, I freaked myself out. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
I said, "Holy shit. Can I take that prayer back?" | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
But it was too late. I'd said it. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
And as it turns out, not one more man | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
on my platoon died after that prayer. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
The students are angry now, and the word has passed | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
to gather at Saigon's main Buddhist pagoda after dark. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
Through all these years, the Vietnamese have learned | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
to live with crises and war, | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
but they haven't learned yet to live as a nation. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
On May 15th, 1966, the government of South Vietnam, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:33 | |
the country for which so many Americans were risking their lives, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
again seemed on the brink of collapse. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
The ascendancy of Prime Minister Nguyen Cao Ky | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
had dealt a severe blow to activist Buddhists, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
who had been demanding representative government, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
and a negotiated end to the war, since 1963. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:57 | |
Ky was an unguided missile, according to one US diplomat. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
He once told a reporter that what Vietnam really needed | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
was five Hitlers. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
He was a charlatan. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
The man not only has no training, has no education, | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
but doesn't seem to be interested in being educated, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:19 | |
and proud of his ignorance. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
When Ky suddenly fired a rival general, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
a popular Buddhist commander, | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
demonstrators poured into the streets of Hue and Da Nang. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:32 | |
But from his command post on a hilltop outside the city, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
an American Marine Lieutenant had watched in disbelief | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
as two battles unfolded simultaneously. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
In the west, his fellow Marines were fighting the Viet Cong. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
In the east, the South Vietnamese Army | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
seemed to be at war with itself. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
"May 16th, 1966. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
"Dear Mom and Dad, | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
"our operation here on the Cambodian border has been quite a success. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:16 | |
"No doubt you will hear about it on the news. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
"Whether I will go out again soon, I don't know, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
"but don't plan on steady mail. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
"Tell Randy I'm looking forward to seeing his new dog. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
"I may take a 15-day leave to Tokyo to keep from cracking up." | 0:32:33 | 0:32:38 | |
It was a lovely spring day, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
and I opened the letter that said that, | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
and I was just really devastated, because, by that time, | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
Vietnam was in total chaos. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
There was a continuing changeover of people in authority, | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
of the government in South Vietnam, | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
and there were protests of the Buddhist monks and others that... | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
There were anti-American demonstrations. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
I just thought, "Why? Why are we there?" | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
To an old high-school friend, Mogie was even more forthcoming. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:17 | |
"Dear Duff, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
"since I last wrote, which is several months, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
"a number of exciting but terribly unpleasant events have occurred, | 0:33:23 | 0:33:28 | |
"the worst of which was being pinned down | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
"by two Chinese light machine guns firing 900 rounds per minute | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
"and having my best friend killed more or less beside me. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
"Someday, I may tell you the whole story | 0:33:39 | 0:33:40 | |
"if my nerves aren't completely gone by then. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
"Actually, the latter is just wishful thinking | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
"in false hope they will take me off the line. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
"I was fantastically religious for a while... | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
"..sending up various and sundry prayers, | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
"mainly concerned with trying to stay alive... | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
"..but I am once again an atheist... | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
"..until the shooting starts." | 0:34:05 | 0:34:06 | |
GUNFIRE | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
June 3rd, 1966, was Mogie's 19th birthday. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:41 | |
His company was involved in yet another campaign | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
aimed at finding and killing North Vietnamese troops | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
filtering into the Central Highlands from Laos. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
As night fell, Mogie and his squad were ordered to move up | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
toward the crest of a hill overlooking a besieged ARVN outpost, | 0:34:57 | 0:35:02 | |
so that artillery could be brought up | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
and positioned to shell the enemy in the morning. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
They moved slowly, wearily, up the slope. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
Mogie was the point man. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
Out of the darkness, a machine gun opened up. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:23 | |
Denton Crocker Jr never made it to the top of the hill. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
# Down the street the dogs are barking | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
# And the day is a-getting dark... # | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
It was just a lovely day to be out in our garden. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
But shortly after lunchtime, I stepped out on the porch. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
I saw two men in uniform coming to the house... | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
..and I knew something terrible had happened. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
And I ran down the steps, and I just grabbed hold of one of them, | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
and said, "Don't tell me. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
"Don't say it. Not my beautiful boy." | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
And he just said yes. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
I suddenly heard my mother screaming for my father. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
Like in a movie, here came the priest, up the stairs, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
with a soldier and she was going, "Oh, no." | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
And she was calling my dad. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
My reaction was to leap up off the couch, | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
race out the back door. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
My dad was standing there | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
and I fell into his arms, and I said... | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
.."Don't let it be true, Dad. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
"Is it true?" | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
And he said yes. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
I just...I remember sitting on the couch, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
and I put my arms around them and I said, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
"We'll love each other and we'll be all right." | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
But I don't know how far it carried. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
You know, we all tried. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
Carol said to me one day | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
very shortly after Denton was killed, | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
probably that very day, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
"How can you believe in God?" | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
And I said, "Because we had Mogie... | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
"..and I think that his life was a real gift. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:43 | |
"It was a privilege to have him." | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
A friend wrote to me, "Our children are really only on loan to us," | 0:37:45 | 0:37:51 | |
which I guess is true. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
We all wish the war would end. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
We all wish the troops would come home. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
There is no human being in all this world | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
who wishes these things to happen, for peace to come to the world, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:11 | |
more than your President of the United States. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
The military claimed to have killed some 57,000 enemy soldiers | 0:38:24 | 0:38:29 | |
in the first six months of 1966. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:34 | |
But, privately, the administration worried | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
that General Westmoreland's crossover point - | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
the moment when more enemy soldiers had been killed | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
than could be replaced - seemed no nearer. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
From the first, the joint chiefs had urged the President | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
to be more aggressive, | 0:38:51 | 0:38:52 | |
to permit troops to pursue the enemy into Laos and Cambodia | 0:38:52 | 0:38:58 | |
and to expand the target list for bombing in North Vietnam. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
Johnson still would not allow borders to be crossed | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
by regular ground troops, for fear of bringing China, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
or even the Soviet Union, into the war, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:14 | |
and he was wary of heavier bombing, fearful of hitting more civilians. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:19 | |
But despite his concern, the President now agreed | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
to intensify the bombing campaign called Operation Rolling Thunder. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:29 | |
He approved attacks on oil facilities | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
all over North Vietnam, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
including some sites adjacent to the cities of Haiphong and Hanoi. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:39 | |
His commanders assured him that this would be a mortal blow to the enemy, | 0:39:41 | 0:39:46 | |
sure to force the North Vietnamese to the bargaining table. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
Tens of thousands of sorties were flown. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
Many bombs hit their intended targets, | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
but many missed and fell on residential neighbourhoods instead, | 0:40:09 | 0:40:14 | |
just as the President had feared. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
Things are going reasonably well in the south, aren't they? | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
Yes, I think so. We think we're taking a heavy toll out of them, | 0:40:25 | 0:40:30 | |
but it just scares me to see what we're doing here, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
with God knows how many aeroplanes and helicopters and firepower, | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
and going after a bunch of half-starved beggars. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
That's what's going on in the south. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
And the great danger is that | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
they can keep that up almost indefinitely. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
The only thing that'll prevent it, Mr President, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
is their morale breaking. There's no question. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
But what the troops in the south - the VC and North Vietnamese... | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
They know that we're bombing in the north. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
We just have a free rein. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
When they see they're getting killed in such high rates in the south, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
and they see that the supplies | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
are less likely to come down from the north, | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
I think it'll just hurt their morale a little bit more. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
And, to me, that's the only way to win, | 0:41:12 | 0:41:13 | |
because we're not killing enough of them | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
to make it impossible for the North to continue to fight, | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
but we are killing enough | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
to destroy the morale of those people down there | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
if they think this is going to have to go on forever. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
All right. Go ahead, Bob. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:28 | |
People talk about collateral damage, but it means something. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
You don't want to do collateral damage. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
You want to do the damage you want to do. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
That's the winning way to do this. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
SHE SHOUTS IN VIETNAMESE | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
Even though I was in a cell by myself, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
and others were by themselves, we weren't alone. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
We were together. In this old French prison, | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
gradually, I began to realise this could go on a long time. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:35 | |
A long time to me was, like, maybe a year or two. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
I never dreamed it would be eight and a half years. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
By the summer of 1966, Lieutenant Everett Alvarez, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:48 | |
the first American pilot to have been shot down over North Vietnam, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
had been a captive for nearly two years, | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
and had been joined, in and around Hanoi, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
by more than 100 other downed airmen. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
The men were forbidden to communicate with one another, | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
forced to bow to their jailers, | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
and told that their country had forgotten them. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
They were subjected to isolation, beatings, | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
and hour upon hour of torture, | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
all aimed at forcing them to admit their guilt | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
and record statements denouncing the war. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
When that cell door would open, | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
when they would say, "You, your turn," | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
you know, the bottom just fell out of you, | 0:43:32 | 0:43:35 | |
and you knew that you may not come back. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:39 | |
The manacles, the ropes, the beatings. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:43 | |
They broke bones. They did everything. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
And they didn't let me die. They just kept the pain. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
The bombing continued, | 0:43:55 | 0:43:56 | |
and more American planes were shot down. | 0:43:56 | 0:44:00 | |
The North Vietnamese took pride in capturing American airmen. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:07 | |
Even children were expected to do their part. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:11 | |
CHILDREN REPEAT COMMANDS | 0:44:11 | 0:44:13 | |
-"Hands up!" -Hand up! | 0:44:13 | 0:44:14 | |
-"Hands up!" -Hands up! | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
Hands up! | 0:44:20 | 0:44:21 | |
The bombing around Hanoi and Haiphong | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
that resulted in so many of our people being POWs | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
for a long period of time was fought out of the White House basement | 0:44:27 | 0:44:31 | |
with the President himself picking targets | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
and deciding that, "We're going to attack now, | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
"and then we're going to pause for a while." | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
Air power was being misused big time. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:43 | |
Operation Rolling Thunder did destroy | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
most of North Vietnam's oil storage facilities. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
But the North Vietnamese shifted most of their oil | 0:44:55 | 0:44:58 | |
to underground tanks, | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
and more arrived every day from China and the Soviet Union. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:05 | |
The bombing was stepped up anyway. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
Throughout the north, | 0:45:14 | 0:45:15 | |
enough crude air shelters were fashioned from concrete pipe, | 0:45:15 | 0:45:19 | |
buried 5ft beneath the ground, | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
to accommodate some 18 million people - | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
virtually the entire population. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
Over a million people were said to be working around the clock | 0:45:32 | 0:45:36 | |
to undo what American bombs had done. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
When key bridges were destroyed, | 0:45:39 | 0:45:42 | |
they fashioned pontoon bridges overnight to keep traffic moving. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:47 | |
Crews waited along the roads with heaps of gravel and stone | 0:45:47 | 0:45:51 | |
and stacks of wood to fill bomb craters. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
They worked under the slogan, "The enemy destroys, we repair. | 0:45:56 | 0:46:02 | |
"The enemy destroys, we repair again." | 0:46:02 | 0:46:06 | |
Rolling Thunder was the dumbest campaign | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
ever devised by a human being, because what's irrational to us | 0:46:14 | 0:46:18 | |
is totally rational to the other side | 0:46:18 | 0:46:20 | |
if you've decided that you are going to reunify the Vietnams, | 0:46:20 | 0:46:25 | |
no matter what it takes, no matter how many casualties. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:29 | |
A lot of the military we talked to shared our concerns | 0:46:33 | 0:46:38 | |
about how the war was being fought and whether or not it could be won. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:42 | |
But when it came to an official position, | 0:46:42 | 0:46:45 | |
it was, "What we know well | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
"and we can win this war, and we're doing it right. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
"We just need more - more troops, more bombing." | 0:46:51 | 0:46:56 | |
Dr Martin Luther King Jr | 0:46:59 | 0:47:02 | |
had been agonising about the war for months, | 0:47:02 | 0:47:05 | |
but he had been reluctant to break openly with Lyndon Johnson, | 0:47:05 | 0:47:09 | |
who had done so much for civil rights. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
Now he could no longer stay silent. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:16 | |
I come to this magnificent house of worship tonight | 0:47:16 | 0:47:21 | |
because my conscience leaves me no other choice. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:27 | |
A time comes when silence is betrayal. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:32 | |
That time has come for us in relation to Vietnam. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:38 | |
11 days later, King joined perhaps half a million other protesters | 0:47:41 | 0:47:46 | |
at a massive demonstration in Central Park | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
organised by a new coalition - | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
the National Mobilisation To End The War In Vietnam. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:56 | |
# I said, "Hold it, Doc A World War passed through my brain" | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
# He said, "Nurse, get your pad The boy's insane" | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
# I said that... # | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
Stop the bombing! | 0:48:09 | 0:48:11 | |
Let us save our national honour. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:16 | |
Stop the bombing and stop the war. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:20 | |
Let us save American lives and Vietnamese lives. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:25 | |
Let us take a single, instantaneous step | 0:48:25 | 0:48:29 | |
to the peace table. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:30 | |
Stop the bombing. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
The anti-war movement was growing in numbers and militancy. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:39 | |
"We are no longer interested in merely protesting the war," | 0:48:39 | 0:48:43 | |
an organiser said, | 0:48:43 | 0:48:44 | |
"We are out to stop it." | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
Meanwhile, some in the Johnson administration | 0:48:49 | 0:48:52 | |
became convinced the anti-war movement | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
was a communist conspiracy directed by Moscow. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:59 | |
The FBI and the CIA, | 0:48:59 | 0:49:01 | |
which was barred by statute from operating within the United States, | 0:49:01 | 0:49:06 | |
began infiltrating the movement, wiretapping its leaders, | 0:49:06 | 0:49:10 | |
even inciting violence in order to undercut their appeal. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:15 | |
At that time, people who supported the war were fond of saying, | 0:49:19 | 0:49:24 | |
"My country, right or wrong", | 0:49:24 | 0:49:26 | |
"America, love it or leave it", | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
or, "Better dead than red." | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
Those sentiments seemed insane to us. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:37 | |
We don't want to live in a country | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
that we're going to support whether it's right or wrong. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:41 | |
We want to live in a country that acts rightly, | 0:49:41 | 0:49:44 | |
and doesn't act wrongly. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:46 | |
And if our country isn't doing that, it needs to be corrected. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:50 | |
So, we had a very different idea of patriotism. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:54 | |
So, we began an era in which two groups of Americans, | 0:49:54 | 0:50:01 | |
both thinking that they were acting patriotically, | 0:50:01 | 0:50:04 | |
went to war with each other. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:06 | |
Over 200,000 communist sympathisers in that park this morning | 0:50:06 | 0:50:11 | |
tried to burn this flag, but they didn't succeed. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:15 | |
Behind the scenes, | 0:50:18 | 0:50:20 | |
Robert McNamara, the chief architect of American strategy in Vietnam, | 0:50:20 | 0:50:26 | |
had grown less and less confident in its ultimate success | 0:50:26 | 0:50:31 | |
and in the repeated calls for more men and more bombing | 0:50:31 | 0:50:35 | |
made by the military he oversaw. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
Robert McNamara was the embodiment of intellect and self-confidence. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:45 | |
If there was a problem, there had to be an answer, | 0:50:45 | 0:50:49 | |
and that was his fatal flaw. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:52 | |
The startling thing is that this man, | 0:50:52 | 0:50:56 | |
who never seemed to doubt anything he said, | 0:50:56 | 0:51:01 | |
actually began to doubt profoundly what he was doing in Vietnam, | 0:51:01 | 0:51:06 | |
but we didn't know about it. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:08 | |
In a private memorandum to the President, | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
McNamara told Johnson | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
that the picture of the world's greatest superpower | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
killing or seriously injuring 1,000 non-combatants a week | 0:51:17 | 0:51:22 | |
while trying to pound a tiny, backward nation into submission | 0:51:22 | 0:51:26 | |
on an issue whose merits are hotly disputed | 0:51:26 | 0:51:30 | |
is not a pretty one. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:32 | |
He urged the President to limit troop levels, not raise them, | 0:51:32 | 0:51:37 | |
and to declare an unconditional end | 0:51:37 | 0:51:40 | |
to all bombing north of the 20th parallel. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:44 | |
"The war in Vietnam is acquiring a momentum of its own | 0:51:44 | 0:51:48 | |
"that must be stopped," McNamara wrote. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
"Dramatic increases in US troop deployments | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
"and attacks on the North are not necessary | 0:51:54 | 0:51:57 | |
"and are not the answer. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
"The enemy can absorb them or counter them, | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
"bogging us down further | 0:52:03 | 0:52:04 | |
"and risking even more serious escalation of the war." | 0:52:04 | 0:52:09 | |
In the end, Johnson tried to find a middle ground. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
He expanded the list of bombing targets, | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
but he refused to mine the harbours, | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
and he agreed to send Westmorland only 47,000 more troops, | 0:52:20 | 0:52:25 | |
which would bring the total of US forces in the country | 0:52:25 | 0:52:29 | |
to more than half a million men. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:31 | |
That June, 1st Lieutenant Matthew Harrison | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
got his orders to join the 173rd Airborne. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:41 | |
I really felt as though I was uniquely qualified | 0:52:41 | 0:52:45 | |
to lead American soldiers. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:46 | |
But I think, the first day I was there, | 0:52:48 | 0:52:51 | |
some guy showed me what looked like a bunch of apricots | 0:52:51 | 0:52:53 | |
on a leather thong. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
Turns out they were ears - dried, desiccated. | 0:52:56 | 0:53:00 | |
I understood, theoretically, what it meant to be in a war, | 0:53:01 | 0:53:04 | |
but, of course, no-one can really understand it until they've done it. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:09 | |
Harrison was a platoon leader in Charlie Company. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:18 | |
They were helicoptered into the heart of the Central Highlands, | 0:53:18 | 0:53:21 | |
near Dak To, where North Vietnamese regulars | 0:53:21 | 0:53:25 | |
were said to be threatening a Special Forces camp. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
GUNFIRE | 0:53:29 | 0:53:31 | |
By dawn, the enemy had melted away. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
Of the 137 men of Alpha Company, 76 lay dead. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:23 | |
43 had been shot in the head at close range. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:28 | |
Ears had been cut from some, | 0:54:28 | 0:54:31 | |
eyes gouged out, ring fingers missing. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:34 | |
23 more men were wounded. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:38 | |
This was my introduction to war. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:44 | |
This was my welcome to Vietnam. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
We spent the rest of the day putting those bodies into body bags | 0:54:50 | 0:54:55 | |
and getting them out of there. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:56 | |
Charlie Company found just nine or ten North Vietnamese bodies. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:04 | |
Harrison and his men were ordered to search the nearby hillsides | 0:55:04 | 0:55:08 | |
for more enemy dead, | 0:55:08 | 0:55:10 | |
who commanders assumed had been killed by US artillery. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:14 | |
MACV needed its body count. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
We never located them, and I believe, today, | 0:55:20 | 0:55:24 | |
that we didn't locate them because they weren't there. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:26 | |
I think we just took a terrible loss on June 22nd. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:31 | |
To admit that a rifle company in the 173rd | 0:55:31 | 0:55:37 | |
had been wiped out by the North Vietnamese | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
was not something our leaders were prepared to do. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:42 | |
An officer told a reporter that the shattered rifle company | 0:55:44 | 0:55:48 | |
had killed 475 enemy soldiers. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:53 | |
When another officer suggested to General Westmorland | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
that the figure seemed too high to be believable, | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
he replied, "Too late. It's already gone out." | 0:55:59 | 0:56:04 | |
By then, I had more than just a suspicion | 0:56:05 | 0:56:09 | |
that this was the fairy tale, that Westmorland was wrong, | 0:56:09 | 0:56:15 | |
and I didn't know whether he knew he was wrong, | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
or whether he believed what he was being told, | 0:56:18 | 0:56:22 | |
and wanted to believe. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:24 | |
But this was the first time that I had to come to grips with the fact | 0:56:25 | 0:56:30 | |
that the leadership was either out of touch or was lying. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:35 | |
# Hello, darkness, my old friend | 0:56:38 | 0:56:43 | |
# I've come to talk with you again | 0:56:43 | 0:56:47 | |
# Because a vision softly creeping | 0:56:47 | 0:56:52 | |
# Left its seeds while I was sleeping | 0:56:52 | 0:56:56 | |
# And the vision that was planted in my brain | 0:56:56 | 0:57:03 | |
# Still remains | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
# Within the sound of silence. # | 0:57:06 | 0:57:11 |