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Soldiers adapt. You go over there with one mind-set, you know, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
and then you adapt. You adapt to the atrocities of war, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
you adapt to killing, dying. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
You know? | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
After a while it doesn't bother you. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
Let's just say, it doesn't bother you as much. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
When I first arrived in Vietnam there were some interesting things | 0:00:25 | 0:00:31 | |
that happened and I questioned some of the Marines. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
I was made to realise that this is war and this is what we do. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:40 | |
And that stuck in my head. "This is war, this is what we do." | 0:00:40 | 0:00:45 | |
And after a while, you embrace that. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
GUNFIRE | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
This evening, I came here to speak to you about Vietnam. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
There is progress in the war itself. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
Rather dramatic progress considering the situation that actually | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
prevailed when we sent our troops there in 1965. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
The grip of the Vietcong on the people is being broken. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:29 | |
# If you can just get your mind together | 0:01:29 | 0:01:34 | |
# Then come on across to me... # | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
NARRATOR: In the summer of 1967, the men overseeing the war | 0:01:40 | 0:01:45 | |
in Vietnam remained outwardly optimistic, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
whatever private doubts they may have held. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
# But first Are you experienced? # | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
EXPLOSION | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
# Have you ever been experienced? Well, I have... # | 0:01:59 | 0:02:04 | |
The American military command in Vietnam, MACV, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
claimed to have killed 200,000 enemy troops | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
and had told the President that the all-important crossover point, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:17 | |
the moment when US and ARVN forces were killing more Vietcong and North | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
Vietnamese troops than the enemy could replace, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
appeared to have been reached in almost all of South Vietnam. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
But the United States had suffered nearly 75,000 casualties. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:36 | |
By July 4th, 14,624 Americans had died. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:42 | |
And off the record, many officers were much less sanguine | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
than their commanders. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
From Saigon, RW Apple of the New York Times summarised their views. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:56 | |
"Victory is not close at hand," he wrote. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
"In fact, it may be beyond reach." | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
President Johnson had been forced to raise taxes to meet the war's | 0:03:09 | 0:03:14 | |
ever-climbing cost. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
His ambitious social programme, his | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
war on poverty, was in retreat. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
# Maybe now you can't hear them... # | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
That summer, racial unrest would grip American cities. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
# If you just take hold of my hand... # | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
The President would have to send the army into Detroit to end five days | 0:03:38 | 0:03:44 | |
of rioting that left 43 dead and hundreds of buildings razed. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:49 | |
26 more died in Newark, Jersey, demonstrating yet again | 0:03:51 | 0:03:56 | |
how wide a gap remained between black and white Americans. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
Only a third of the country saw any sign of progress in Vietnam. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:07 | |
And half of the country now disapproved of the President's | 0:04:07 | 0:04:12 | |
handling of the war. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
South Vietnam had been divided into four tactical zones. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:35 | |
By the summer of 1967, American troops were fighting in all four of them. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:41 | |
In IV Corps, the Brown Water Navy patrolled the rivers and canals | 0:04:43 | 0:04:48 | |
and marshes of the densely populated Mekong Delta, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:53 | |
searching for the enemy. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:54 | |
In III Corps, | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
the army continued to sweep the thick jungles of the Iron Triangle, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
the Vietcong's sanctuary near Saigon that was supposed to have been | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
permanently denied to the enemy by big American operations earlier in | 0:05:06 | 0:05:12 | |
the year. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:13 | |
In II Corps, a series of bloody battles in the central highlands | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
around Dak To temporarily drove north Vietnamese troops back into | 0:05:18 | 0:05:24 | |
Cambodia and Laos. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:25 | |
But some of the most intense combat would take place in I Corps, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:33 | |
made up of the five northernmost provinces of South Vietnam, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
where the Marines would bear the brunt of the fighting. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
More than two and a half million people lived there - | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
all but 2% of them within the narrow rice-growing river valleys along the | 0:05:45 | 0:05:50 | |
South China Sea. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
The Marines wanted to eradicate the Vietcong there | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
and provide security to the people, village by village, | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
hamlet by hamlet. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
The vast, largely empty highlands | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
that stretched westward all the way to Laos, the Marines argued, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
could be left to the enemy. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
The real war is among the people, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
said Marine Lieutenant General Victor Krulak, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
and not among the mountains. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
But General William Westmoreland, the American commander, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
feared that thousands of North Vietnamese Army regulars, the NVA, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:29 | |
were planning to seize the two northernmost provinces. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
Finding and destroying them remained his first goal. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:38 | |
He insisted the third Marine division move north to meet | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
that challenge, establish a base at Dong Ha | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
and man strong points at Gio Lihn, Con Thien, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
Cam Lo, Camp Carroll, The Rockpile and Khe Sanh. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:58 | |
Khe Sanh overlooked route nine, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
the east-west highway that Westmoreland hoped would one day | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
carry American troops across the border into Laos, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
where North Vietnamese men and supplies were streaming south | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
on the Ho Chi Minh trail. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
EXPLOSION | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
But the thousands of Marines monitoring the border would find themselves | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
within range of highly accurate North Vietnamese artillery and | 0:07:21 | 0:07:26 | |
rocket launchers hidden within the DMZ. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
MUSIC: I'm A Man by Spencer Davis Group | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
Tell me, you came here full strength? | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
I had 13 men when I came here. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:42 | |
And it's four days later now, how many are still here? | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
Six. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:46 | |
The rifles have been jamming, the mud has slowed everything down. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
The artillery comes in everywhere. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
It just gets pretty futile and frustrating sometimes. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
I can't say that I'm scared stiff, but I'm scared. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
I mean, after a while, you know it's going to come | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
and you can't do nothing about it. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:13 | |
And you just look to God. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
# Well, my pad is very messy And there's whiskers on my chin... # | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
Private First Class John Musgrave of Fairmount, Missouri, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
who had volunteered to join the 3rd Marine Division, was sent to | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
the battle-scarred countryside around Con Thien, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
a few kilometres south of the DMZ. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
EXPLOSION | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
For the Marines in northern I Corps in the 3rd Marine Division, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
in the spring and summer of 1967, we called the DMZ the dead marine zone. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:45 | |
Musgrave's 1st Battalion had already suffered so many casualties in a | 0:08:46 | 0:08:51 | |
series of bloody sweeps that it was believed to be a hard-luck outfit. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:56 | |
They were called the walking dead. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
I joined the Marine Corps to be in the Varsity... | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
..and I felt like I wasn't varsity | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
unless I was up North fighting the NVA. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
I have never regretted that decision. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
There were times when we were under artillery fire... | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
..where I thought, you know, "What were you thinking?" | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
Every major contact I remember with the NVA was initiated by them | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
ambushing us. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
They wouldn't hit us unless they outnumbered us. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
And we were fighting in their yard. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
They knew the ground, we didn't. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
They were just really good. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:46 | |
The North Vietnamese carried Soviet-made | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
seemingly indestructible AK-47s. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
The Marines had to fight with newly issued M16 rifles that had, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:18 | |
for a time, a potentially fatal design flaw. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
They needed constant cleaning | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
and often jammed in the middle of firefights. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
Their rifles worked, ours didn't. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
The M16 was a piece of shit. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
You can't throw your bullets at the enemy and have them be effective. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
And that rifle malfunctioned on us repeatedly. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
GUNFIRE AND EXPLOSIONS | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
My hatred for them was pure. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
Pure. I hated them so much. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
And I was so scared of them. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
Boy, I was terrified of them. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:20 | |
And the scareder I got, the more I hated them. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
I only killed one human being in Vietnam. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:52 | |
And that was the first man that I ever killed. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
I was sick with guilt... | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
..about killing that guy and | 0:12:00 | 0:12:01 | |
thinking I'm going to have to do this for the next 13 months | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
and I'm going to go crazy. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
Then I saw a Marine step on a Bouncing Betty mine... | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
..and that's when I made my deal with the devil, in that I said, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:16 | |
"I will never kill another human being as long as I'm in Vietnam. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
"However, I will waste as many gooks as I can find. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:25 | |
"I'll wax as many dinks as I can find, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
"I'll smoke as many zips as I can find, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
"but I ain't going to kill anybody". | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
You know? | 0:12:34 | 0:12:35 | |
Turn the subject into an object. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
Racism 101. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
It turns out to be a very necessary tool when you have children fighting | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
your wars, for them to stay sane doing their work. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
GUNFIRE | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
The disillusionment for me began when I was going back to fight | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
at places we'd already fought before. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
We had fought, captured, and then left and the NVA came right back. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:07 | |
You don't like getting wounded in places you've already been before. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
War is a real-estate business. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
We're supposed to take real estate away from the enemy | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
and then deny the enemy access to that real estate. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
NARRATOR: On the morning of July 2nd 1967, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
the First Battalion launched yet another sweep of the area north-east | 0:13:28 | 0:13:33 | |
of Con Thien. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
When they reached a crossroads called the Marketplace, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
barely a mile and a quarter from their base, they were ambushed. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
One company was virtually annihilated. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
John Musgrave's company rushed to rescue the survivors, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
only to be pinned down there, as well. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
It was one of the worst days the Marine Corps endured in Vietnam. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:05 | |
53 dead and 190 wounded were carried off the battlefield. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:10 | |
34 more dead had to be left behind. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
And when Marines fought their way back two days later to retrieve | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
their bodies, they found that a number had died because their M16s | 0:14:20 | 0:14:25 | |
had jammed as the enemy closed in. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
Many had been executed, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:30 | |
shot in the face or back of the head at close range. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
Some bodies had been booby-trapped, others mutilated. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
Marine Amphibious Force headquarters was so desperate to get | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
North Vietnamese prisoners. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:47 | |
Good luck, you know? | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
Don't you know what we're doing up here? | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
Do you know we're fighting? | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
I want to make this clear. We did not torture prisoners. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
And we did not mutilate them. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:02 | |
But to be a prisoner, you had to make it to the rear, you know? | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
If he fell into our hands, he was just one sorry fucker. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:18 | |
I don't know how to explain it that it would make sense. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
This is Bao Cu, the day of voting in Vietnam, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
and it's a solemn day in the village of Huong Tho Phu and in other | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
villages throughout the country. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
And these people have dressed up in their Sunday best for it. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
NARRATOR: South Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Cao Ky had crushed | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
his Buddhist opponents in 1966. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
But he had been forced by the Americans and his political rivals | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
to make at least tentative moves towards democracy, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
election of a National Assembly, a new constitution | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
and the promise of elections for president and vice president. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
But when Ky's old adversary, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
Nguyen Van Thieu, declared he wanted to challenge Ky for the top spot, | 0:16:15 | 0:16:20 | |
things in Saigon had threatened to come apart again. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
We were watching the rivalry between Thieu and Ky. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
And that was a game. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:29 | |
In Vietnam, the country was watching like we were watching a movie. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:36 | |
And Thieu and Ky was watching as to not whoever had the support of the | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
people, but who had the support of the Americans and the White House. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:46 | |
Thieu emerged on top. He was unassuming and unflappable, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:51 | |
interested largely in accumulating power and personal wealth, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:56 | |
and was thought unlikely ever to embarrass Washington. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
Ky would be his vice president. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
Some South Vietnamese did believe that a measure of stability had | 0:17:04 | 0:17:09 | |
finally been achieved. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
Others were not so sure. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
In terms of corruption, yes, they were corrupt. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
Both Thieu and Ky, they abused their position. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
We pay a very high price for having leaders like Ky and Thieu. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:31 | |
And we continue to pay the price. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
My father was in the United States air force. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
I grew up out of the country in desegregated settings. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:48 | |
I was usually the only little black girl in the class. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
If you look at my class pictures, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
I look like the little chocolate chip in the vanilla ice cream. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
I was always a good student. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
I remember people saying, "Oh, you speak so well." | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
And the unstated part is "for a black girl" - probably a Negro girl, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
or a coloured girl at that point. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
Eva Jefferson's father had served a year on air bases in Vietnam | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
and returned home convinced the United States had no business being there. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:19 | |
But when his daughter entered Northwestern University in the Chicago | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
suburb of Evanston in September 1967, the war was not uppermost in | 0:18:23 | 0:18:29 | |
students' minds. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
The war was not really an issue. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
It's like, well, no, the President has our best interests at heart. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
He, of course, would only prosecute a war that made sense. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
And I think most of America felt that way. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
At the University of Nebraska, Jack Todd also supported the war. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
He had felt so strongly about it in 1966 that he had signed up for | 0:18:52 | 0:18:58 | |
Marine officer training. | 0:18:58 | 0:18:59 | |
I went into the Marine Corps... | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
..thinking this was all I wanted to do. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
I mean, my goal was to be commander, a platoon commander, in Vietnam. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
But as time went by, and the war went on, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
Todd and many of his fellow students began to change their minds. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
All young people go through changes. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
But we were going through astronomical changes | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
at such a rapid rate. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
All the music, the culture, everything that we'd listen to, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
everything that we thought was transforming. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
And the core of it all was Vietnam, Vietnam, Vietnam. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
Todd attended officer training school at Camp Upshur in Quantico, Virginia. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:45 | |
But doubts about the war followed him there, too. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
I guess the emotional things that were happening on the ground, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
the photographs that we saw, | 0:19:54 | 0:19:55 | |
the news images and the fact that there was no discernible progress, | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
it really started to eat away at what we thought. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
In the summer of '67 I was at Camp Upshur, you know, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
wanting to go kill Vietnamese people. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
And in October I was completely against the war. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
Westmorland came in last night to me and he says that he has | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
concentrated more firepower in bombing in the last week | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
on the DMZ, and they've concentrated more on us, than has ever been | 0:20:25 | 0:20:30 | |
concentrated in any equivalent period in the history of warfare. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
And it would just be suicide if we stopped the bombing, as these idiots | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
are talking about. If we stop bombing, without any reciprocity | 0:20:38 | 0:20:43 | |
-on their part, it just means we kill more Americans. That's all. -Yeah. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
Neither the ongoing bombing of the North, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
nor the concentrated bombing around the DMZ, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
nor the behind-the-scenes offers | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
made by President Johnson to stop it, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
had any discernible effect on Le Duan | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
and the other men who ran North Vietnam. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
But many North Vietnamese civilians were weary of the war | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
and of the bombing that had disrupted their lives | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
and destroyed so much of their infrastructure. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
The country's most revered figures, | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
Ho Chi Minh and Vo Nguyen Giap, were urging patience. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
Continuing to wage a war of attrition | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
they still believed would pay off in the end. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
To silence his critics and break the stalemate, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
Le Duan began to devise and promote a new and riskier version | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
of the plan for victory he had tried in 1964. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
He called it the General Offensive, General Uprising. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
North Vietnamese and Vietcong units would launch scores of coordinated | 0:21:58 | 0:22:03 | |
attacks on South Vietnamese cities and towns and military bases. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:08 | |
That offensive, Le Duan believed, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
would ignite a mass civilian uprising. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
These simultaneous blows would destroy the Saigon regime | 0:22:15 | 0:22:20 | |
and leave Washington with no choice but to withdraw. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
We talk about our own hubris, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
there's some hubris on their side, as well. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
And once they had convinced themselves that this was going to be | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
a great success, it is what some wags have called | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
drinking your own bath water. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
They decided it's going to be a victory, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
even though there are people in the south saying, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
"Hey, this is not a great idea." | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
But these people are charged with subjectivism | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
and basically are told to shut up and keep rolling. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
Le Duan neutralised those who opposed his plan. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
Members of General Giap's staff were arrested, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
so was Ho Chi Minh's secretary. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
Hundreds of less prominent figures - journalists, students, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:11 | |
even highly decorated heroes of the French war - were also rounded up. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:16 | |
Many were locked up in the old | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
French prison that the American POWs, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
also confined there, called the Hanoi Hilton. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
The date eventually chosen for the attack would be January 31st 1968, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:34 | |
the first day of the Vietnamese lunar New Year celebration, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
known as Tet. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
Hundreds, then thousands, of North Vietnamese regulars in civilian clothes | 0:24:41 | 0:24:46 | |
began slipping southwards to join tens of thousands of Vietcong already in place. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:53 | |
In preparation for the coming offensive, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
the North Vietnamese hoped to lure American and South Vietnamese forces | 0:25:32 | 0:25:37 | |
away from cities and big military bases. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
To do that, they would mount a series of assaults on remote outposts near | 0:25:41 | 0:25:46 | |
Cambodia, Laos and the DMZ. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
Con Thien would be the first. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
EXPLOSIONS | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
The big question really seems to be whether or not the North Vietnamese | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
intend to overrun Con Thien. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
The Marines have tripled the number of troops guarding the outpost | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
and they've moved up more battalions to be ready to reinforce. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:16 | |
You spend your day filling up sandbags, trying to create barriers, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
and you just put another layer on, put another layer on. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
A lot of mud, blood... | 0:26:24 | 0:26:25 | |
..and artillery. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
It's just red clay up there. And it's real sticky and it could | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
just grab on to you and pull your boots off. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
It's hard to run in that stuff and running - | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
when you're in a place where they're firing heavy artillery at you - | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
running's pretty important. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:42 | |
EXPLOSIONS | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
Like almost, like, every hour, there'd be a barrage. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
People getting blown to bits, literally blown to bits. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
You'd find a boot with a leg in it and so, is the leg white or black? | 0:26:59 | 0:27:05 | |
So who was the white Marine that was here? | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
Who was the black? So then you try to remember and you tag it and put that in a green bag | 0:27:07 | 0:27:12 | |
and that's what goes back, you know, as Marine Lance Corporal so-and-so, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:18 | |
but sometimes you're not even sure | 0:27:18 | 0:27:19 | |
because the body has literally been blown to bits | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
and the only thing that's left is a foot. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
Or a piece of an arm. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
I carried a wall calendar from Clifford Forlow Insurance. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
He was my dad's insurance agent, and I marked off each of the days | 0:27:30 | 0:27:34 | |
religiously, and then in October, we went up to Con Thien again. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:40 | |
I just stopped. Because I thought... | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
.."This is pointless. I'm not going to go home. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
"I'm not going to make it home. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
"What's the point?" So I just quit marking them off. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
I had the opportunity to call my mother. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
I said, "You'll probably never see me again | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
"because we're the most northern outpost that the Marines have. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
"Everybody in my unit's dying. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
"I probably won't be coming back." | 0:28:04 | 0:28:05 | |
And my mother said, "No, you're coming back." | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
She said, "I talk to God every day and you're special. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
"You're coming back." | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
And I said, "Ma, everybody's mother thinks that they're special." | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
You know, I'm putting pieces of special people in bags. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
And I was feeling that my mother's in denial. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
She just doesn't want to face the fact that her only son is going to | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
die in Vietnam. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:27 | |
And she said, "You're not going to die. You're not going to die." | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
The last thing she said to me was, "God has a plan for you." | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
And I said, "Yeah, right." And I hung up. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
EXPLOSION | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
Mr Stout, during what period of time were you in Vietnam? | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
I was in Vietnam from September 1966 to September 1967. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:51 | |
-And with what unit? -With the 1st Brigade of the 101st Airborne. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
During the time that you were in Vietnam, did you personally witness | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
any atrocities on the part of American troops? | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
Yes, I did. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:02 | |
Dennis Stout from Phoenix, Arizona had enlisted in the Army at 20 | 0:29:03 | 0:29:09 | |
and served nine months in combat. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
Wounded three times, he became an Army reporter covering the | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
327th Regiment of the 101st Airborne. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
He would spend most of his time with a unique commando platoon called | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
Tiger Force - | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
small, hand-picked teams capable of remaining in the jungle | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
for weeks at a time. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
Fast-moving and deadly. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
Intended to out-guerrilla the guerrillas. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
Tiger Force fought in six different provinces, | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
repeatedly suffering heavy losses. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
In the summer of 1967, Tiger Force | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
was sent to the fertile Song Ve Valley. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
The valley had officially been declared a free-fire zone. | 0:29:56 | 0:30:00 | |
And Tiger Force's officers took that literally. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
"There are no friendlies," one Lieutenant told his men. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
"Shoot anything that moves." | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
Over a seven-month period, they killed scores of unarmed civilians. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:19 | |
These atrocities were committed by soldiers of units I was assigned to | 0:30:20 | 0:30:26 | |
as a reporter for the Army newspapers. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
Tiger Force was not the only platoon | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
Dennis Stout covered that crossed the line. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
One such incident was the rape and killing of a Vietnamese girl. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:41 | |
She was captured, kept for interrogation. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
Over a two-day period she was raped, then on the morning of the | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
-third day she was killed. -Was she raped by more than one person? | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
Yes, all but the medic and myself | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
and possibly one other man from the platoon. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
Did you protest? Did you try in any way to have them stopped? | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
Yes, after the rape incident I complained | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
to the battalion Sergeant Major | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
and his response was that this type of thing happens in all wars | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
and that I was not to mention it - it was a common occurrence. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
And then he told me to keep quiet, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
that I did not have to return for the next operation. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
Years later, another soldier came forward with more allegations of war | 0:31:23 | 0:31:28 | |
crimes. And an army investigation would find probable cause to try 18 | 0:31:28 | 0:31:34 | |
members of Tiger Force for murder or assault. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
But no charges were ever brought. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
The official records were buried in the archives. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
They should have all gone to jail. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
They were guilty of murder. Period. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
At the same time, I felt like that incident, | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
which I think was an aberration, not the norm, | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
tarred all veterans and there are hundreds of thousands of veterans | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
who went and did their duty, as honourable as they possibly could, | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
and they were tarred with the same brush. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
One of the things that I learned in the war is that we're not the top | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
species on the planet because we're nice. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
We are a very aggressive species. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
It is in us and people talk a lot about how the military | 0:32:21 | 0:32:26 | |
turns kids into, you know, killing machines and stuff | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
and I'll always argue that it's just finishing school. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
What we do with civilisation is that we learn to inhibit and | 0:32:34 | 0:32:39 | |
rope in these aggressive tendencies. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
And we have to recognise them. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
I worry about a whole country that doesn't recognise it | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
because I think of how many times we get ourselves in scrapes | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
as a nation because we're always the good guys. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
Sometimes I think if we thought that we weren't always the good guys, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
we might actually get in less wars. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
Mr Rubin, how do you realistically expect to shut down the Pentagon? | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
The Pentagon represents the murder of people throughout the world | 0:33:07 | 0:33:12 | |
and the American people have no control over what their government | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
is doing. The only thing to do with the Pentagon is to shut it down. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
# It was back in 1942, I was a member of a good platoon | 0:33:21 | 0:33:26 | |
# We were on manoeuvres in Louisiana one night by the light of the moon... # | 0:33:26 | 0:33:31 | |
There was a major demonstration, either in New York or in Washington, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:37 | |
every fall and every spring. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
We decided that we would try to do something more militant than simply | 0:33:40 | 0:33:45 | |
stand around and make speeches opposing the war, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
which is what these demonstrations had become. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
And when the time came to lead people away | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
from the Lincoln Memorial | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
toward the Pentagon, 50,000 people marched. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
# We were neck deep in the Big Muddy | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
# The big fool says to push on. # | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
Bill Zimmerman, now an assistant professor of psychology at Brooklyn | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
College, had been against the war since the beginning. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
And we found, when we got there, concentric defence perimeters | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
that had been set up around the Pentagon | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
to keep us at a distance from the building. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
We pushed against them, we tore down their fences. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
I was working that weekend day. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
The secretaries who were working in my area were frightened to hell... | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
..what these Vietnam protesters would do. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
They thought they were going to come into the building and rape them. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
Some of them actually came over the walls. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
It was a sense of revolution. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
# Waist deep in the Big Muddy | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
# The big fool says to push on | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
# Waist deep in the Big Muddy | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
# The big fool says to push on. # | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
God knows what we were going to do when we got in the building. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
Some people wanted to commit vandalism in the building, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
other people wanted to distribute anti-war literature in the building. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
Talk to people. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
Just the idea of getting into the headquarters | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
of the United States military. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:26 | |
It was the first time that anti-war demonstrators had confronted | 0:35:28 | 0:35:33 | |
active duty and military personnel. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
We didn't consider them the enemy. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
We considered them victims of the war. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
But we began to see our own government... | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
..as the enemy. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:47 | |
# When the truth is found | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
# To be lies | 0:35:50 | 0:35:55 | |
# And all the joy | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
# Within you dies | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
# Don't you want somebody to love | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
# Don't you need somebody... # | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
I didn't hear the word hippie until I was at Con Thien | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
and we got a Playboy in the mail, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
which was obviously very important to us. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
And there was an article on Haight-Ashbury | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
and pictures of the girls running around without their tops, you know, | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
free love, and they were hippies. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
And we thought it was hip-pie because it had two Ps. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
You know, I'm going to go and be one of these hip-pies | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
because the girls don't wear no clothes, you know, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
and they'll go to bed with anybody, you know, even I could score! | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
But the only information I had of the peace movement came from | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
Stars And Stripes. And that wasn't a real objective newspaper. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:41 | |
So I hated them before I ever even knew anything about them. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
NARRATOR: The monsoon rains continued to make life miserable | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
for John Musgrave and the other Marines at Con Thien. | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
But by early November, the worst of the shelling had ended. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
American air strikes, artillery and Navy fire had taken a fearful toll | 0:37:04 | 0:37:09 | |
on the besieging enemy. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
Before dawn on November 7th, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
two companies of Musgrave's outfit were sent half a mile into | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
the countryside north-west of the base to sweep the area again. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:24 | |
In the clear area, we had three NVA show themselves and start, just, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
spraying 30 rounds out of their AKs and then bookin'. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:34 | |
The company commander himself said, | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
"I want their bodies, bring me their bodies. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
"Everything's about body count. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
"Right?" | 0:37:42 | 0:37:43 | |
We said, "Man, this is as old as Custer. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
"These guys are showing themselves to draw us into an ambush. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
"Lieutenant, don't do this." | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
You know? "Please, these guys are bait." | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
The skipper says, "We've got to go. We've got to go." | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
And... | 0:38:01 | 0:38:02 | |
..we went. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
And I can't tell you a whole lot about the ambush. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
I was one of the first people to be shot. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
One round put me down. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
And my grenadier was down and we were trying to get him back and... | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
..Marines, from the first day in boot Camp, | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
you learn that Marines don't leave their dead. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
And they never, never leave their wounded. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
And that's why I'm alive today. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:32 | |
The first guy that came for me, I was lying on my face. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
He reached down and stuck his arms under my shoulders and lifted me up | 0:38:39 | 0:38:44 | |
and the machine gun wasn't very far, it was maybe... | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
..nine feet, ten feet at the most away from me. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
This is a very intimate ambush, it's a brawl. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
And he fired a burst into my chest, it blew me out of the Marine's | 0:38:56 | 0:39:02 | |
arms that was holding me and then he was shot. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
Another very brave, young Marine, this 18-year-old... | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
..from Louisiana, his first firefight, had seen what happened, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
and still came for me. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:17 | |
And he reached for me and he was shot, I think, in the forearm. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
And he was laying beside me | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
and I've got a hole in my chest big enough to stick your fist through. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
And I'm dying and I know it. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
And I heard this horrible screaming going on | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
and I was trying to figure out... | 0:39:37 | 0:39:38 | |
..who was screaming like that because it sounded so... | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
And then I realised it was me. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:49 | |
And they flew me to Delta Med at Dong Ha and I thought, OK, I've made it this far. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:57 | |
And this doctor comes over and looks at me and I'm conscious. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
I'm lucid. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
And he checks a couple of things and I've got this huge hole | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
and he looks at me right in the eye and he says, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
"What's your religion, Marine?" I said, "Well, I'm a Protestant." | 0:40:09 | 0:40:13 | |
He says, "Let's get a chaplain over here, I can't help this man." | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
And then he walked away. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:17 | |
Another surgeon walks by... | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
..and he looked at me and I was raised to be... | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
..to always be nice to people. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
And when he looked at me, I smiled at him and nodded. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
And he said, "Why isn't somebody helping this man?" | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
And inside, I'm going, "Yeah, why isn't somebody helping this man?" | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
When they put me to sleep, I thought, boy, this is really it. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
You know and it was, kind of, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
"OK, God, into your hands I deliver my spirit." | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
And I thought that was it. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:54 | |
And when I woke up in the surgical intensive care ward, | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
which was a hut, I thought, holy mackerel! | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
I just couldn't... I couldn't believe it. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
Yesterday, over Hanoi, three American planes were shot down | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
and at least two of their pilots captured. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
One of them was Lieutenant Commander John McCain III, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
the son of the US Naval Commander in Europe. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
NARRATOR: Hanoi was so pleased to have captured the son | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
of an American Admiral that | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
they allowed a French journalist to interview McCain in the hospital. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:12 | |
He had just had his broken bones set | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
without even an aspirin for the pain. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
-What is your name? -Lieutenant Commander John McCain. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:23 | |
In which circumstances have you been shot down? | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
I was on a flight over the city of Hanoi... | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
..and I was bombing | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
and it was hit by either a missile or aircraft fire. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:40 | |
I'm not sure which. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
And the plane continued straight down. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
I ejected... | 0:42:48 | 0:42:49 | |
..and broke... | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
..my leg and both arms. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
And went into a lake... | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
..parachuted into a lake. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
And I was picked up by some North Vietnamese. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:07 | |
And taken to the hospital. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
Where I almost died. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
I would just like to tell... | 0:43:15 | 0:43:16 | |
..my wife... | 0:43:21 | 0:43:22 | |
..I-I'm going to get well... | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
..and I love her. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:31 | |
I hope to see her soon. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:35 | |
After the interview, | 0:43:37 | 0:43:39 | |
McCain was beaten for not expressing sufficient gratitude to his captors. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:44 | |
All through the fall of 1967, | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
the North Vietnamese and the Vietcong continued their series of | 0:43:56 | 0:44:00 | |
border battles in preparation for their surprise offensive, | 0:44:00 | 0:44:03 | |
still months away. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:05 | |
In early November, reports reached MACV that five North Vietnamese | 0:44:07 | 0:44:12 | |
regiments and a Vietcong Battalion - some 7,000 men in all - | 0:44:12 | 0:44:17 | |
had begun massing in the Central Highlands | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
around the US Special Forces camp at Dak To. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
Among the North Vietnamese regulars was Nguyen Thanh Son, | 0:44:25 | 0:44:29 | |
who had been so eager to fight that he, too, had filled his pockets | 0:44:29 | 0:44:33 | |
with rocks to pass his physical. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:35 | |
As the NVA deployed their troops, Westmoreland sent his to Dak To - | 0:44:51 | 0:44:57 | |
exactly what the enemy wanted him to do. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
Among the Americans were the men of the elite 173rd Airborne. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:06 | |
Westmorland's Fire Brigade. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
On Sunday morning, November 19th 1967, | 0:45:33 | 0:45:37 | |
the men of the elite 173rd Airborne were ordered to take Hill 875. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:44 | |
Matt Harrison had been wounded in an earlier fight | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
and was not permitted to accompany his men. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:50 | |
He anxiously followed their progress over the radio. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
Back home, the battle led the nightly news. | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
The battle of Dak To is now in its 19th day | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
and it already ranks amongst the bloodiest campaigns | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
of the Vietnam War. There's no sign yet of any let-up. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
Over the weekend, the three companies of the 173rd Airborne | 0:46:10 | 0:46:13 | |
Brigade moved down this river valley, | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
up which North Vietnamese normally infiltrate, | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
until they got down here by Hill 875. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
Then they came under heavy fire from the hill, | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
two of the three companies charged the hill, | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
the others stayed back as a rear-guard. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
By early afternoon, the three companies had basically been decapitated. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:35 | |
The company commanders were dead. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:37 | |
Most of the officers and most of the NCOs were dead. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:40 | |
American bombs and napalm pounded enemy positions until it grew almost | 0:46:41 | 0:46:47 | |
too dark to see. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:48 | |
The following day, Matt Harrison was able to chopper in. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:21 | |
It was chaos. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
It was collections of guys who had tunnelled and dug down behind trees. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:30 | |
And then all around were bodies. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:34 | |
Guys who had been shot and blown up. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
It was the third circle of hell. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:40 | |
On November 23rd, two fresh battalions of the 173rd | 0:47:42 | 0:47:47 | |
finally made it to the top of the hill. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
But the night before, the surviving North Vietnamese troops | 0:47:50 | 0:47:54 | |
had slipped down the other side | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
and disappeared into Cambodia and Laos. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
107 Americans had died taking Hill 875. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:07 | |
Another 282 were wounded. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:10 | |
Ten more were missing. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
The number of North Vietnamese casualties is unknown, | 0:48:13 | 0:48:16 | |
but their losses are thought to have been staggering. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
The battle for Hill 875 was, in my thinking today, | 0:48:22 | 0:48:26 | |
a microcosm of what we were doing and what went wrong in Vietnam. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:31 | |
There was no reason to take that hill. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
We literally got to the top of the hill about midday on November 23rd | 0:48:36 | 0:48:43 | |
and sat there for, I don't know, half an hour, an hour, | 0:48:43 | 0:48:48 | |
and I doubt that there's been an American on Hill 875 | 0:48:48 | 0:48:52 | |
since November 23rd. We accomplished nothing. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:56 | |
As Matt Harrison and his men fought for Hill 875, | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
the Johnson administration was in the midst of a PR campaign aimed at | 0:49:02 | 0:49:07 | |
shoring up support for the war and the way it was being waged. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
MACV released a new - and surprisingly low - | 0:49:12 | 0:49:16 | |
estimate of enemy forces | 0:49:16 | 0:49:18 | |
to show how much damage the United States had done to them. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:22 | |
It was only two thirds of the total suggested by the CIA | 0:49:22 | 0:49:26 | |
because, after a bitter and prolonged debate behind the scenes, | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
Westmoreland had chosen to exclude from it the part-time guerrillas, | 0:49:30 | 0:49:35 | |
farmers, old men, women, even children who helped place the mines, | 0:49:35 | 0:49:41 | |
grenades and booby traps that accounted for more than a third of | 0:49:41 | 0:49:45 | |
all American casualties. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:47 | |
Ambassador Ellsworth Bunker joined the chorus, | 0:49:48 | 0:49:51 | |
using a metaphor first used 13 years earlier by the French commander in | 0:49:51 | 0:49:57 | |
Vietnam, not long before their great defeat at Dien Bien Phu. | 0:49:57 | 0:50:01 | |
Now beginning to see light at the end of the tunnel. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
Mr Ambassador, you talk about... | 0:50:07 | 0:50:08 | |
LBJ's PR campaign succeeded. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:11 | |
The number of Americans who believed the United States was making real | 0:50:13 | 0:50:17 | |
progress in the war grew. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:19 | |
Secretary of defence Robert McNamara | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
did not take part in the public-relations campaign. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
He had become so disillusioned with the war he'd done so much to plan | 0:50:28 | 0:50:33 | |
and prosecute that he wrote another secret memo to the President, | 0:50:33 | 0:50:37 | |
advising Johnson to freeze American troop levels, | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
turn over ground operations to the South Vietnamese | 0:50:41 | 0:50:45 | |
and halt the bombing of North Vietnam in order to bring about | 0:50:45 | 0:50:48 | |
negotiations. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:49 | |
"There was no reason to believe," McNamara wrote, | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
"that the prolonged infliction of grievous casualties, | 0:50:54 | 0:50:58 | |
"or the heavy punishment of air bombardment, will suffice to break | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
"the will of the North Vietnamese and Vietcong. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
"The continuation of our present course of action in Southeast Asia | 0:51:06 | 0:51:10 | |
"would be dangerous, costly in lives, | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
"and unsatisfactory for the American people." | 0:51:13 | 0:51:16 | |
Johnson never responded. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:20 | |
Instead, he arranged for McNamara | 0:51:20 | 0:51:23 | |
to become the President of the World Bank. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:26 | |
McNamara would keep silent about the doubts he had harboured since | 0:51:26 | 0:51:30 | |
the beginning of the ground war for the next 28 years. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:34 | |
His successor as Defence Secretary would be Clark Clifford, | 0:51:37 | 0:51:41 | |
a prominent Washington lawyer and trusted counsellor to Democratic | 0:51:41 | 0:51:45 | |
presidents, whom Johnson was sure would be supportive of the war. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:49 | |
By the end of 1967, 20,057 Americans had died in Vietnam. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:59 | |
The time had come, General Westmorland said, | 0:52:01 | 0:52:04 | |
for an all-out offensive on all fronts. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
But the enemy was just a month away | 0:52:11 | 0:52:14 | |
from launching an all-out offensive of its own. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:18 | |
MUSIC: Paint It Black by The Rolling Stones | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
# I see a red door | 0:52:33 | 0:52:35 | |
# And I want it painted black | 0:52:35 | 0:52:39 | |
# No colours any more | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
# I want them to turn black | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
# I see the girls walk by dressed in their summer clothes | 0:52:45 | 0:52:50 | |
# I have to turn my head until my darkness goes... # | 0:52:51 | 0:52:56 |