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This programme contains some strong language

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This programme contains some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting

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Soldiers adapt. You go over there with one mind-set, you know,

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and then you adapt. You adapt to the atrocities of war,

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you adapt to killing, dying.

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You know?

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After a while it doesn't bother you.

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Let's just say, it doesn't bother you as much.

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When I first arrived in Vietnam there were some interesting things

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that happened and I questioned some of the Marines.

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I was made to realise that this is war and this is what we do.

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And that stuck in my head. "This is war, this is what we do."

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And after a while, you embrace that.

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GUNFIRE

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This evening, I came here to speak to you about Vietnam.

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There is progress in the war itself.

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Rather dramatic progress considering the situation that actually

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prevailed when we sent our troops there in 1965.

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The grip of the Vietcong on the people is being broken.

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# If you can just get your mind together

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# Then come on across to me... #

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NARRATOR: In the summer of 1967, the men overseeing the war

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in Vietnam remained outwardly optimistic,

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whatever private doubts they may have held.

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# But first Are you experienced? #

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EXPLOSION

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# Have you ever been experienced? Well, I have... #

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The American military command in Vietnam, MACV,

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claimed to have killed 200,000 enemy troops

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and had told the President that the all-important crossover point,

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the moment when US and ARVN forces were killing more Vietcong and North

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Vietnamese troops than the enemy could replace,

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appeared to have been reached in almost all of South Vietnam.

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But the United States had suffered nearly 75,000 casualties.

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By July 4th, 14,624 Americans had died.

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And off the record, many officers were much less sanguine

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than their commanders.

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From Saigon, RW Apple of the New York Times summarised their views.

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"Victory is not close at hand," he wrote.

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"In fact, it may be beyond reach."

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President Johnson had been forced to raise taxes to meet the war's

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ever-climbing cost.

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His ambitious social programme, his

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war on poverty, was in retreat.

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# Maybe now you can't hear them... #

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That summer, racial unrest would grip American cities.

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# If you just take hold of my hand... #

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The President would have to send the army into Detroit to end five days

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of rioting that left 43 dead and hundreds of buildings razed.

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26 more died in Newark, Jersey, demonstrating yet again

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how wide a gap remained between black and white Americans.

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Only a third of the country saw any sign of progress in Vietnam.

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And half of the country now disapproved of the President's

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handling of the war.

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South Vietnam had been divided into four tactical zones.

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By the summer of 1967, American troops were fighting in all four of them.

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In IV Corps, the Brown Water Navy patrolled the rivers and canals

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and marshes of the densely populated Mekong Delta,

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searching for the enemy.

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In III Corps,

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the army continued to sweep the thick jungles of the Iron Triangle,

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the Vietcong's sanctuary near Saigon that was supposed to have been

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permanently denied to the enemy by big American operations earlier in

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the year.

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In II Corps, a series of bloody battles in the central highlands

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around Dak To temporarily drove north Vietnamese troops back into

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Cambodia and Laos.

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But some of the most intense combat would take place in I Corps,

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made up of the five northernmost provinces of South Vietnam,

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where the Marines would bear the brunt of the fighting.

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More than two and a half million people lived there -

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all but 2% of them within the narrow rice-growing river valleys along the

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South China Sea.

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The Marines wanted to eradicate the Vietcong there

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and provide security to the people, village by village,

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hamlet by hamlet.

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The vast, largely empty highlands

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that stretched westward all the way to Laos, the Marines argued,

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could be left to the enemy.

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The real war is among the people,

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said Marine Lieutenant General Victor Krulak,

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and not among the mountains.

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But General William Westmoreland, the American commander,

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feared that thousands of North Vietnamese Army regulars, the NVA,

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were planning to seize the two northernmost provinces.

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Finding and destroying them remained his first goal.

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He insisted the third Marine division move north to meet

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that challenge, establish a base at Dong Ha

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and man strong points at Gio Lihn, Con Thien,

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Cam Lo, Camp Carroll, The Rockpile and Khe Sanh.

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Khe Sanh overlooked route nine,

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the east-west highway that Westmoreland hoped would one day

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carry American troops across the border into Laos,

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where North Vietnamese men and supplies were streaming south

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on the Ho Chi Minh trail.

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EXPLOSION

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But the thousands of Marines monitoring the border would find themselves

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within range of highly accurate North Vietnamese artillery and

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rocket launchers hidden within the DMZ.

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MUSIC: I'm A Man by Spencer Davis Group

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Tell me, you came here full strength?

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I had 13 men when I came here.

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And it's four days later now, how many are still here?

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Six.

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The rifles have been jamming, the mud has slowed everything down.

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The artillery comes in everywhere.

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It just gets pretty futile and frustrating sometimes.

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I can't say that I'm scared stiff, but I'm scared.

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I mean, after a while, you know it's going to come

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and you can't do nothing about it.

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And you just look to God.

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# Well, my pad is very messy And there's whiskers on my chin... #

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Private First Class John Musgrave of Fairmount, Missouri,

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who had volunteered to join the 3rd Marine Division, was sent to

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the battle-scarred countryside around Con Thien,

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a few kilometres south of the DMZ.

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EXPLOSION

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For the Marines in northern I Corps in the 3rd Marine Division,

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in the spring and summer of 1967, we called the DMZ the dead marine zone.

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Musgrave's 1st Battalion had already suffered so many casualties in a

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series of bloody sweeps that it was believed to be a hard-luck outfit.

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They were called the walking dead.

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I joined the Marine Corps to be in the Varsity...

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..and I felt like I wasn't varsity

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unless I was up North fighting the NVA.

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I have never regretted that decision.

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There were times when we were under artillery fire...

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..where I thought, you know, "What were you thinking?"

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Every major contact I remember with the NVA was initiated by them

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ambushing us.

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They wouldn't hit us unless they outnumbered us.

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And we were fighting in their yard.

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They knew the ground, we didn't.

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They were just really good.

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The North Vietnamese carried Soviet-made

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seemingly indestructible AK-47s.

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The Marines had to fight with newly issued M16 rifles that had,

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for a time, a potentially fatal design flaw.

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They needed constant cleaning

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and often jammed in the middle of firefights.

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Their rifles worked, ours didn't.

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The M16 was a piece of shit.

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You can't throw your bullets at the enemy and have them be effective.

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And that rifle malfunctioned on us repeatedly.

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GUNFIRE AND EXPLOSIONS

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My hatred for them was pure.

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Pure. I hated them so much.

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And I was so scared of them.

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Boy, I was terrified of them.

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And the scareder I got, the more I hated them.

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I only killed one human being in Vietnam.

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And that was the first man that I ever killed.

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I was sick with guilt...

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..about killing that guy and

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thinking I'm going to have to do this for the next 13 months

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and I'm going to go crazy.

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Then I saw a Marine step on a Bouncing Betty mine...

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..and that's when I made my deal with the devil, in that I said,

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"I will never kill another human being as long as I'm in Vietnam.

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"However, I will waste as many gooks as I can find.

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"I'll wax as many dinks as I can find,

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"I'll smoke as many zips as I can find,

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"but I ain't going to kill anybody".

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You know?

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Turn the subject into an object.

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Racism 101.

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It turns out to be a very necessary tool when you have children fighting

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your wars, for them to stay sane doing their work.

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GUNFIRE

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The disillusionment for me began when I was going back to fight

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at places we'd already fought before.

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We had fought, captured, and then left and the NVA came right back.

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You don't like getting wounded in places you've already been before.

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War is a real-estate business.

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We're supposed to take real estate away from the enemy

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and then deny the enemy access to that real estate.

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NARRATOR: On the morning of July 2nd 1967,

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the First Battalion launched yet another sweep of the area north-east

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of Con Thien.

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When they reached a crossroads called the Marketplace,

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barely a mile and a quarter from their base, they were ambushed.

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One company was virtually annihilated.

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John Musgrave's company rushed to rescue the survivors,

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only to be pinned down there, as well.

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It was one of the worst days the Marine Corps endured in Vietnam.

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53 dead and 190 wounded were carried off the battlefield.

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34 more dead had to be left behind.

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And when Marines fought their way back two days later to retrieve

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their bodies, they found that a number had died because their M16s

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had jammed as the enemy closed in.

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Many had been executed,

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shot in the face or back of the head at close range.

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Some bodies had been booby-trapped, others mutilated.

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Marine Amphibious Force headquarters was so desperate to get

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North Vietnamese prisoners.

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Good luck, you know?

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Don't you know what we're doing up here?

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Do you know we're fighting?

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I want to make this clear. We did not torture prisoners.

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And we did not mutilate them.

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But to be a prisoner, you had to make it to the rear, you know?

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If he fell into our hands, he was just one sorry fucker.

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I don't know how to explain it that it would make sense.

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This is Bao Cu, the day of voting in Vietnam,

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and it's a solemn day in the village of Huong Tho Phu and in other

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villages throughout the country.

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And these people have dressed up in their Sunday best for it.

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NARRATOR: South Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Cao Ky had crushed

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his Buddhist opponents in 1966.

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But he had been forced by the Americans and his political rivals

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to make at least tentative moves towards democracy,

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election of a National Assembly, a new constitution

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and the promise of elections for president and vice president.

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But when Ky's old adversary,

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Nguyen Van Thieu, declared he wanted to challenge Ky for the top spot,

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things in Saigon had threatened to come apart again.

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We were watching the rivalry between Thieu and Ky.

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And that was a game.

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In Vietnam, the country was watching like we were watching a movie.

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And Thieu and Ky was watching as to not whoever had the support of the

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people, but who had the support of the Americans and the White House.

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Thieu emerged on top. He was unassuming and unflappable,

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interested largely in accumulating power and personal wealth,

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and was thought unlikely ever to embarrass Washington.

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Ky would be his vice president.

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Some South Vietnamese did believe that a measure of stability had

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finally been achieved.

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Others were not so sure.

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In terms of corruption, yes, they were corrupt.

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Both Thieu and Ky, they abused their position.

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We pay a very high price for having leaders like Ky and Thieu.

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And we continue to pay the price.

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My father was in the United States air force.

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I grew up out of the country in desegregated settings.

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I was usually the only little black girl in the class.

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If you look at my class pictures,

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I look like the little chocolate chip in the vanilla ice cream.

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I was always a good student.

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I remember people saying, "Oh, you speak so well."

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And the unstated part is "for a black girl" - probably a Negro girl,

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or a coloured girl at that point.

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Eva Jefferson's father had served a year on air bases in Vietnam

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and returned home convinced the United States had no business being there.

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But when his daughter entered Northwestern University in the Chicago

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suburb of Evanston in September 1967, the war was not uppermost in

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students' minds.

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The war was not really an issue.

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It's like, well, no, the President has our best interests at heart.

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He, of course, would only prosecute a war that made sense.

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And I think most of America felt that way.

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At the University of Nebraska, Jack Todd also supported the war.

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He had felt so strongly about it in 1966 that he had signed up for

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Marine officer training.

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I went into the Marine Corps...

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..thinking this was all I wanted to do.

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I mean, my goal was to be commander, a platoon commander, in Vietnam.

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But as time went by, and the war went on,

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Todd and many of his fellow students began to change their minds.

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All young people go through changes.

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But we were going through astronomical changes

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at such a rapid rate.

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All the music, the culture, everything that we'd listen to,

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everything that we thought was transforming.

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And the core of it all was Vietnam, Vietnam, Vietnam.

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Todd attended officer training school at Camp Upshur in Quantico, Virginia.

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But doubts about the war followed him there, too.

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I guess the emotional things that were happening on the ground,

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the photographs that we saw,

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the news images and the fact that there was no discernible progress,

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it really started to eat away at what we thought.

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In the summer of '67 I was at Camp Upshur, you know,

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wanting to go kill Vietnamese people.

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And in October I was completely against the war.

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Westmorland came in last night to me and he says that he has

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concentrated more firepower in bombing in the last week

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on the DMZ, and they've concentrated more on us, than has ever been

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concentrated in any equivalent period in the history of warfare.

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And it would just be suicide if we stopped the bombing, as these idiots

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are talking about. If we stop bombing, without any reciprocity

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-on their part, it just means we kill more Americans. That's all.

-Yeah.

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Neither the ongoing bombing of the North,

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nor the concentrated bombing around the DMZ,

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nor the behind-the-scenes offers

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made by President Johnson to stop it,

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had any discernible effect on Le Duan

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and the other men who ran North Vietnam.

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But many North Vietnamese civilians were weary of the war

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and of the bombing that had disrupted their lives

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and destroyed so much of their infrastructure.

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The country's most revered figures,

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Ho Chi Minh and Vo Nguyen Giap, were urging patience.

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Continuing to wage a war of attrition

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they still believed would pay off in the end.

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To silence his critics and break the stalemate,

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Le Duan began to devise and promote a new and riskier version

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of the plan for victory he had tried in 1964.

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He called it the General Offensive, General Uprising.

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North Vietnamese and Vietcong units would launch scores of coordinated

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attacks on South Vietnamese cities and towns and military bases.

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That offensive, Le Duan believed,

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would ignite a mass civilian uprising.

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These simultaneous blows would destroy the Saigon regime

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and leave Washington with no choice but to withdraw.

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We talk about our own hubris,

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there's some hubris on their side, as well.

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And once they had convinced themselves that this was going to be

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a great success, it is what some wags have called

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drinking your own bath water.

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They decided it's going to be a victory,

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even though there are people in the south saying,

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"Hey, this is not a great idea."

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But these people are charged with subjectivism

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and basically are told to shut up and keep rolling.

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Le Duan neutralised those who opposed his plan.

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Members of General Giap's staff were arrested,

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so was Ho Chi Minh's secretary.

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Hundreds of less prominent figures - journalists, students,

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even highly decorated heroes of the French war - were also rounded up.

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Many were locked up in the old

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French prison that the American POWs,

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also confined there, called the Hanoi Hilton.

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The date eventually chosen for the attack would be January 31st 1968,

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the first day of the Vietnamese lunar New Year celebration,

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known as Tet.

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Hundreds, then thousands, of North Vietnamese regulars in civilian clothes

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began slipping southwards to join tens of thousands of Vietcong already in place.

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In preparation for the coming offensive,

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the North Vietnamese hoped to lure American and South Vietnamese forces

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away from cities and big military bases.

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To do that, they would mount a series of assaults on remote outposts near

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Cambodia, Laos and the DMZ.

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Con Thien would be the first.

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EXPLOSIONS

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The big question really seems to be whether or not the North Vietnamese

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intend to overrun Con Thien.

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The Marines have tripled the number of troops guarding the outpost

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and they've moved up more battalions to be ready to reinforce.

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You spend your day filling up sandbags, trying to create barriers,

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and you just put another layer on, put another layer on.

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A lot of mud, blood...

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..and artillery.

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It's just red clay up there. And it's real sticky and it could

0:26:300:26:33

just grab on to you and pull your boots off.

0:26:330:26:35

It's hard to run in that stuff and running -

0:26:360:26:38

when you're in a place where they're firing heavy artillery at you -

0:26:380:26:41

running's pretty important.

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EXPLOSIONS

0:26:420:26:45

Like almost, like, every hour, there'd be a barrage.

0:26:500:26:53

People getting blown to bits, literally blown to bits.

0:26:550:26:58

You'd find a boot with a leg in it and so, is the leg white or black?

0:26:590:27:05

So who was the white Marine that was here?

0:27:050:27:07

Who was the black? So then you try to remember and you tag it and put that in a green bag

0:27:070:27:12

and that's what goes back, you know, as Marine Lance Corporal so-and-so,

0:27:120:27:18

but sometimes you're not even sure

0:27:180:27:19

because the body has literally been blown to bits

0:27:190:27:21

and the only thing that's left is a foot.

0:27:210:27:23

Or a piece of an arm.

0:27:230:27:25

I carried a wall calendar from Clifford Forlow Insurance.

0:27:260:27:30

He was my dad's insurance agent, and I marked off each of the days

0:27:300:27:34

religiously, and then in October, we went up to Con Thien again.

0:27:340:27:40

I just stopped. Because I thought...

0:27:410:27:43

.."This is pointless. I'm not going to go home.

0:27:440:27:47

"I'm not going to make it home.

0:27:470:27:49

"What's the point?" So I just quit marking them off.

0:27:500:27:52

I had the opportunity to call my mother.

0:27:540:27:57

I said, "You'll probably never see me again

0:27:570:27:59

"because we're the most northern outpost that the Marines have.

0:27:590:28:02

"Everybody in my unit's dying.

0:28:020:28:04

"I probably won't be coming back."

0:28:040:28:05

And my mother said, "No, you're coming back."

0:28:050:28:08

She said, "I talk to God every day and you're special.

0:28:080:28:12

"You're coming back."

0:28:120:28:14

And I said, "Ma, everybody's mother thinks that they're special."

0:28:140:28:17

You know, I'm putting pieces of special people in bags.

0:28:170:28:19

And I was feeling that my mother's in denial.

0:28:210:28:23

She just doesn't want to face the fact that her only son is going to

0:28:230:28:26

die in Vietnam.

0:28:260:28:27

And she said, "You're not going to die. You're not going to die."

0:28:270:28:30

The last thing she said to me was, "God has a plan for you."

0:28:320:28:36

And I said, "Yeah, right." And I hung up.

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EXPLOSION

0:28:380:28:41

Mr Stout, during what period of time were you in Vietnam?

0:28:430:28:46

I was in Vietnam from September 1966 to September 1967.

0:28:460:28:51

-And with what unit?

-With the 1st Brigade of the 101st Airborne.

0:28:510:28:55

During the time that you were in Vietnam, did you personally witness

0:28:550:28:58

any atrocities on the part of American troops?

0:28:580:29:00

Yes, I did.

0:29:010:29:02

Dennis Stout from Phoenix, Arizona had enlisted in the Army at 20

0:29:030:29:09

and served nine months in combat.

0:29:090:29:12

Wounded three times, he became an Army reporter covering the

0:29:120:29:16

327th Regiment of the 101st Airborne.

0:29:160:29:20

He would spend most of his time with a unique commando platoon called

0:29:220:29:26

Tiger Force -

0:29:260:29:28

small, hand-picked teams capable of remaining in the jungle

0:29:280:29:32

for weeks at a time.

0:29:320:29:34

Fast-moving and deadly.

0:29:340:29:36

Intended to out-guerrilla the guerrillas.

0:29:360:29:39

Tiger Force fought in six different provinces,

0:29:410:29:44

repeatedly suffering heavy losses.

0:29:440:29:47

In the summer of 1967, Tiger Force

0:29:490:29:52

was sent to the fertile Song Ve Valley.

0:29:520:29:55

The valley had officially been declared a free-fire zone.

0:29:560:30:00

And Tiger Force's officers took that literally.

0:30:000:30:03

"There are no friendlies," one Lieutenant told his men.

0:30:040:30:08

"Shoot anything that moves."

0:30:080:30:10

Over a seven-month period, they killed scores of unarmed civilians.

0:30:140:30:19

These atrocities were committed by soldiers of units I was assigned to

0:30:200:30:26

as a reporter for the Army newspapers.

0:30:260:30:28

Tiger Force was not the only platoon

0:30:300:30:32

Dennis Stout covered that crossed the line.

0:30:320:30:35

One such incident was the rape and killing of a Vietnamese girl.

0:30:360:30:41

She was captured, kept for interrogation.

0:30:410:30:44

Over a two-day period she was raped, then on the morning of the

0:30:460:30:50

-third day she was killed.

-Was she raped by more than one person?

0:30:500:30:53

Yes, all but the medic and myself

0:30:540:30:58

and possibly one other man from the platoon.

0:30:580:31:00

Did you protest? Did you try in any way to have them stopped?

0:31:000:31:03

Yes, after the rape incident I complained

0:31:030:31:06

to the battalion Sergeant Major

0:31:060:31:09

and his response was that this type of thing happens in all wars

0:31:090:31:13

and that I was not to mention it - it was a common occurrence.

0:31:130:31:16

And then he told me to keep quiet,

0:31:160:31:18

that I did not have to return for the next operation.

0:31:180:31:21

Years later, another soldier came forward with more allegations of war

0:31:230:31:28

crimes. And an army investigation would find probable cause to try 18

0:31:280:31:34

members of Tiger Force for murder or assault.

0:31:340:31:38

But no charges were ever brought.

0:31:390:31:41

The official records were buried in the archives.

0:31:410:31:45

They should have all gone to jail.

0:31:460:31:48

They were guilty of murder. Period.

0:31:480:31:50

At the same time, I felt like that incident,

0:31:520:31:55

which I think was an aberration, not the norm,

0:31:550:31:58

tarred all veterans and there are hundreds of thousands of veterans

0:31:580:32:02

who went and did their duty, as honourable as they possibly could,

0:32:020:32:05

and they were tarred with the same brush.

0:32:050:32:07

One of the things that I learned in the war is that we're not the top

0:32:100:32:14

species on the planet because we're nice.

0:32:140:32:16

We are a very aggressive species.

0:32:180:32:21

It is in us and people talk a lot about how the military

0:32:210:32:26

turns kids into, you know, killing machines and stuff

0:32:260:32:30

and I'll always argue that it's just finishing school.

0:32:300:32:33

What we do with civilisation is that we learn to inhibit and

0:32:340:32:39

rope in these aggressive tendencies.

0:32:390:32:42

And we have to recognise them.

0:32:420:32:44

I worry about a whole country that doesn't recognise it

0:32:440:32:48

because I think of how many times we get ourselves in scrapes

0:32:480:32:51

as a nation because we're always the good guys.

0:32:510:32:54

Sometimes I think if we thought that we weren't always the good guys,

0:32:540:32:57

we might actually get in less wars.

0:32:570:32:59

Mr Rubin, how do you realistically expect to shut down the Pentagon?

0:33:030:33:07

The Pentagon represents the murder of people throughout the world

0:33:070:33:12

and the American people have no control over what their government

0:33:120:33:15

is doing. The only thing to do with the Pentagon is to shut it down.

0:33:150:33:18

# It was back in 1942, I was a member of a good platoon

0:33:210:33:26

# We were on manoeuvres in Louisiana one night by the light of the moon... #

0:33:260:33:31

There was a major demonstration, either in New York or in Washington,

0:33:320:33:37

every fall and every spring.

0:33:370:33:39

We decided that we would try to do something more militant than simply

0:33:400:33:45

stand around and make speeches opposing the war,

0:33:450:33:48

which is what these demonstrations had become.

0:33:480:33:50

And when the time came to lead people away

0:33:520:33:55

from the Lincoln Memorial

0:33:550:33:57

toward the Pentagon, 50,000 people marched.

0:33:570:34:01

# We were neck deep in the Big Muddy

0:34:030:34:06

# The big fool says to push on. #

0:34:060:34:08

Bill Zimmerman, now an assistant professor of psychology at Brooklyn

0:34:100:34:14

College, had been against the war since the beginning.

0:34:140:34:17

And we found, when we got there, concentric defence perimeters

0:34:190:34:23

that had been set up around the Pentagon

0:34:230:34:25

to keep us at a distance from the building.

0:34:250:34:28

We pushed against them, we tore down their fences.

0:34:280:34:31

I was working that weekend day.

0:34:360:34:38

The secretaries who were working in my area were frightened to hell...

0:34:390:34:43

..what these Vietnam protesters would do.

0:34:450:34:47

They thought they were going to come into the building and rape them.

0:34:470:34:51

Some of them actually came over the walls.

0:34:510:34:53

It was a sense of revolution.

0:34:540:34:57

# Waist deep in the Big Muddy

0:34:580:35:01

# The big fool says to push on

0:35:010:35:03

# Waist deep in the Big Muddy

0:35:030:35:05

# The big fool says to push on. #

0:35:050:35:08

God knows what we were going to do when we got in the building.

0:35:090:35:13

Some people wanted to commit vandalism in the building,

0:35:130:35:16

other people wanted to distribute anti-war literature in the building.

0:35:160:35:19

Talk to people.

0:35:190:35:21

Just the idea of getting into the headquarters

0:35:210:35:24

of the United States military.

0:35:240:35:26

It was the first time that anti-war demonstrators had confronted

0:35:280:35:33

active duty and military personnel.

0:35:330:35:35

We didn't consider them the enemy.

0:35:360:35:38

We considered them victims of the war.

0:35:380:35:41

But we began to see our own government...

0:35:420:35:44

..as the enemy.

0:35:460:35:47

# When the truth is found

0:35:470:35:50

# To be lies

0:35:500:35:55

# And all the joy

0:35:550:35:57

# Within you dies

0:35:570:36:01

# Don't you want somebody to love

0:36:010:36:04

# Don't you need somebody... #

0:36:040:36:06

I didn't hear the word hippie until I was at Con Thien

0:36:060:36:08

and we got a Playboy in the mail,

0:36:080:36:10

which was obviously very important to us.

0:36:100:36:12

And there was an article on Haight-Ashbury

0:36:130:36:15

and pictures of the girls running around without their tops, you know,

0:36:150:36:18

free love, and they were hippies.

0:36:180:36:20

And we thought it was hip-pie because it had two Ps.

0:36:200:36:22

You know, I'm going to go and be one of these hip-pies

0:36:220:36:25

because the girls don't wear no clothes, you know,

0:36:250:36:28

and they'll go to bed with anybody, you know, even I could score!

0:36:280:36:32

But the only information I had of the peace movement came from

0:36:330:36:36

Stars And Stripes. And that wasn't a real objective newspaper.

0:36:360:36:41

So I hated them before I ever even knew anything about them.

0:36:410:36:45

NARRATOR: The monsoon rains continued to make life miserable

0:36:530:36:56

for John Musgrave and the other Marines at Con Thien.

0:36:560:37:00

But by early November, the worst of the shelling had ended.

0:37:000:37:04

American air strikes, artillery and Navy fire had taken a fearful toll

0:37:040:37:09

on the besieging enemy.

0:37:090:37:11

Before dawn on November 7th,

0:37:130:37:16

two companies of Musgrave's outfit were sent half a mile into

0:37:160:37:20

the countryside north-west of the base to sweep the area again.

0:37:200:37:24

In the clear area, we had three NVA show themselves and start, just,

0:37:250:37:29

spraying 30 rounds out of their AKs and then bookin'.

0:37:290:37:34

The company commander himself said,

0:37:340:37:37

"I want their bodies, bring me their bodies.

0:37:370:37:40

"Everything's about body count.

0:37:400:37:42

"Right?"

0:37:420:37:43

We said, "Man, this is as old as Custer.

0:37:430:37:46

"These guys are showing themselves to draw us into an ambush.

0:37:460:37:50

"Lieutenant, don't do this."

0:37:500:37:52

You know? "Please, these guys are bait."

0:37:520:37:56

The skipper says, "We've got to go. We've got to go."

0:37:570:38:00

And...

0:38:010:38:02

..we went.

0:38:030:38:05

And I can't tell you a whole lot about the ambush.

0:38:070:38:10

I was one of the first people to be shot.

0:38:100:38:12

One round put me down.

0:38:120:38:14

And my grenadier was down and we were trying to get him back and...

0:38:150:38:19

..Marines, from the first day in boot Camp,

0:38:200:38:23

you learn that Marines don't leave their dead.

0:38:230:38:26

And they never, never leave their wounded.

0:38:260:38:29

And that's why I'm alive today.

0:38:310:38:32

The first guy that came for me, I was lying on my face.

0:38:340:38:38

He reached down and stuck his arms under my shoulders and lifted me up

0:38:390:38:44

and the machine gun wasn't very far, it was maybe...

0:38:440:38:47

..nine feet, ten feet at the most away from me.

0:38:490:38:52

This is a very intimate ambush, it's a brawl.

0:38:520:38:54

And he fired a burst into my chest, it blew me out of the Marine's

0:38:560:39:02

arms that was holding me and then he was shot.

0:39:020:39:04

Another very brave, young Marine, this 18-year-old...

0:39:070:39:10

..from Louisiana, his first firefight, had seen what happened,

0:39:120:39:16

and still came for me.

0:39:160:39:17

And he reached for me and he was shot, I think, in the forearm.

0:39:190:39:22

And he was laying beside me

0:39:240:39:27

and I've got a hole in my chest big enough to stick your fist through.

0:39:270:39:31

And I'm dying and I know it.

0:39:310:39:33

And I heard this horrible screaming going on

0:39:340:39:37

and I was trying to figure out...

0:39:370:39:38

..who was screaming like that because it sounded so...

0:39:390:39:42

And then I realised it was me.

0:39:480:39:49

And they flew me to Delta Med at Dong Ha and I thought, OK, I've made it this far.

0:39:520:39:57

And this doctor comes over and looks at me and I'm conscious.

0:39:590:40:02

I'm lucid.

0:40:020:40:04

And he checks a couple of things and I've got this huge hole

0:40:040:40:07

and he looks at me right in the eye and he says,

0:40:070:40:09

"What's your religion, Marine?" I said, "Well, I'm a Protestant."

0:40:090:40:13

He says, "Let's get a chaplain over here, I can't help this man."

0:40:130:40:16

And then he walked away.

0:40:160:40:17

Another surgeon walks by...

0:40:180:40:20

..and he looked at me and I was raised to be...

0:40:220:40:24

..to always be nice to people.

0:40:250:40:27

And when he looked at me, I smiled at him and nodded.

0:40:270:40:30

And he said, "Why isn't somebody helping this man?"

0:40:310:40:34

And inside, I'm going, "Yeah, why isn't somebody helping this man?"

0:40:360:40:39

When they put me to sleep, I thought, boy, this is really it.

0:40:410:40:44

You know and it was, kind of,

0:40:460:40:48

"OK, God, into your hands I deliver my spirit."

0:40:480:40:51

And I thought that was it.

0:40:530:40:54

And when I woke up in the surgical intensive care ward,

0:40:570:40:59

which was a hut, I thought, holy mackerel!

0:40:590:41:03

I just couldn't... I couldn't believe it.

0:41:040:41:06

Yesterday, over Hanoi, three American planes were shot down

0:41:120:41:15

and at least two of their pilots captured.

0:41:150:41:18

One of them was Lieutenant Commander John McCain III,

0:41:180:41:22

the son of the US Naval Commander in Europe.

0:41:220:41:25

NARRATOR: Hanoi was so pleased to have captured the son

0:42:030:42:06

of an American Admiral that

0:42:060:42:08

they allowed a French journalist to interview McCain in the hospital.

0:42:080:42:12

He had just had his broken bones set

0:42:120:42:15

without even an aspirin for the pain.

0:42:150:42:18

-What is your name?

-Lieutenant Commander John McCain.

0:42:180:42:23

In which circumstances have you been shot down?

0:42:230:42:27

I was on a flight over the city of Hanoi...

0:42:270:42:31

..and I was bombing

0:42:320:42:35

and it was hit by either a missile or aircraft fire.

0:42:350:42:40

I'm not sure which.

0:42:400:42:42

And the plane continued straight down.

0:42:420:42:46

I ejected...

0:42:480:42:49

..and broke...

0:42:500:42:52

..my leg and both arms.

0:42:530:42:57

And went into a lake...

0:42:570:42:59

..parachuted into a lake.

0:43:000:43:02

And I was picked up by some North Vietnamese.

0:43:030:43:07

And taken to the hospital.

0:43:080:43:10

Where I almost died.

0:43:110:43:14

I would just like to tell...

0:43:150:43:16

..my wife...

0:43:210:43:22

..I-I'm going to get well...

0:43:240:43:27

..and I love her.

0:43:300:43:31

I hope to see her soon.

0:43:330:43:35

After the interview,

0:43:370:43:39

McCain was beaten for not expressing sufficient gratitude to his captors.

0:43:390:43:44

All through the fall of 1967,

0:43:530:43:56

the North Vietnamese and the Vietcong continued their series of

0:43:560:44:00

border battles in preparation for their surprise offensive,

0:44:000:44:03

still months away.

0:44:030:44:05

In early November, reports reached MACV that five North Vietnamese

0:44:070:44:12

regiments and a Vietcong Battalion - some 7,000 men in all -

0:44:120:44:17

had begun massing in the Central Highlands

0:44:170:44:20

around the US Special Forces camp at Dak To.

0:44:200:44:23

Among the North Vietnamese regulars was Nguyen Thanh Son,

0:44:250:44:29

who had been so eager to fight that he, too, had filled his pockets

0:44:290:44:33

with rocks to pass his physical.

0:44:330:44:35

As the NVA deployed their troops, Westmoreland sent his to Dak To -

0:44:510:44:57

exactly what the enemy wanted him to do.

0:44:570:45:00

Among the Americans were the men of the elite 173rd Airborne.

0:45:010:45:06

Westmorland's Fire Brigade.

0:45:060:45:09

On Sunday morning, November 19th 1967,

0:45:330:45:37

the men of the elite 173rd Airborne were ordered to take Hill 875.

0:45:370:45:44

Matt Harrison had been wounded in an earlier fight

0:45:450:45:48

and was not permitted to accompany his men.

0:45:480:45:50

He anxiously followed their progress over the radio.

0:45:510:45:54

Back home, the battle led the nightly news.

0:45:560:45:59

The battle of Dak To is now in its 19th day

0:46:010:46:04

and it already ranks amongst the bloodiest campaigns

0:46:040:46:07

of the Vietnam War. There's no sign yet of any let-up.

0:46:070:46:10

Over the weekend, the three companies of the 173rd Airborne

0:46:100:46:13

Brigade moved down this river valley,

0:46:130:46:16

up which North Vietnamese normally infiltrate,

0:46:160:46:19

until they got down here by Hill 875.

0:46:190:46:22

Then they came under heavy fire from the hill,

0:46:220:46:24

two of the three companies charged the hill,

0:46:240:46:26

the others stayed back as a rear-guard.

0:46:260:46:28

By early afternoon, the three companies had basically been decapitated.

0:46:300:46:35

The company commanders were dead.

0:46:350:46:37

Most of the officers and most of the NCOs were dead.

0:46:370:46:40

American bombs and napalm pounded enemy positions until it grew almost

0:46:410:46:47

too dark to see.

0:46:470:46:48

The following day, Matt Harrison was able to chopper in.

0:47:170:47:21

It was chaos.

0:47:220:47:25

It was collections of guys who had tunnelled and dug down behind trees.

0:47:250:47:30

And then all around were bodies.

0:47:300:47:34

Guys who had been shot and blown up.

0:47:340:47:37

It was the third circle of hell.

0:47:380:47:40

On November 23rd, two fresh battalions of the 173rd

0:47:420:47:47

finally made it to the top of the hill.

0:47:470:47:50

But the night before, the surviving North Vietnamese troops

0:47:500:47:54

had slipped down the other side

0:47:540:47:56

and disappeared into Cambodia and Laos.

0:47:560:47:59

107 Americans had died taking Hill 875.

0:48:020:48:07

Another 282 were wounded.

0:48:070:48:10

Ten more were missing.

0:48:100:48:13

The number of North Vietnamese casualties is unknown,

0:48:130:48:16

but their losses are thought to have been staggering.

0:48:160:48:19

The battle for Hill 875 was, in my thinking today,

0:48:220:48:26

a microcosm of what we were doing and what went wrong in Vietnam.

0:48:260:48:31

There was no reason to take that hill.

0:48:320:48:34

We literally got to the top of the hill about midday on November 23rd

0:48:360:48:43

and sat there for, I don't know, half an hour, an hour,

0:48:430:48:48

and I doubt that there's been an American on Hill 875

0:48:480:48:52

since November 23rd. We accomplished nothing.

0:48:520:48:56

As Matt Harrison and his men fought for Hill 875,

0:48:580:49:02

the Johnson administration was in the midst of a PR campaign aimed at

0:49:020:49:07

shoring up support for the war and the way it was being waged.

0:49:070:49:11

MACV released a new - and surprisingly low -

0:49:120:49:16

estimate of enemy forces

0:49:160:49:18

to show how much damage the United States had done to them.

0:49:180:49:22

It was only two thirds of the total suggested by the CIA

0:49:220:49:26

because, after a bitter and prolonged debate behind the scenes,

0:49:260:49:30

Westmoreland had chosen to exclude from it the part-time guerrillas,

0:49:300:49:35

farmers, old men, women, even children who helped place the mines,

0:49:350:49:41

grenades and booby traps that accounted for more than a third of

0:49:410:49:45

all American casualties.

0:49:450:49:47

Ambassador Ellsworth Bunker joined the chorus,

0:49:480:49:51

using a metaphor first used 13 years earlier by the French commander in

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Vietnam, not long before their great defeat at Dien Bien Phu.

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Now beginning to see light at the end of the tunnel.

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Mr Ambassador, you talk about...

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LBJ's PR campaign succeeded.

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The number of Americans who believed the United States was making real

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progress in the war grew.

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Secretary of defence Robert McNamara

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did not take part in the public-relations campaign.

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He had become so disillusioned with the war he'd done so much to plan

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and prosecute that he wrote another secret memo to the President,

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advising Johnson to freeze American troop levels,

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turn over ground operations to the South Vietnamese

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and halt the bombing of North Vietnam in order to bring about

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negotiations.

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"There was no reason to believe," McNamara wrote,

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"that the prolonged infliction of grievous casualties,

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"or the heavy punishment of air bombardment, will suffice to break

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"the will of the North Vietnamese and Vietcong.

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"The continuation of our present course of action in Southeast Asia

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"would be dangerous, costly in lives,

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"and unsatisfactory for the American people."

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Johnson never responded.

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Instead, he arranged for McNamara

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to become the President of the World Bank.

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McNamara would keep silent about the doubts he had harboured since

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the beginning of the ground war for the next 28 years.

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His successor as Defence Secretary would be Clark Clifford,

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a prominent Washington lawyer and trusted counsellor to Democratic

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presidents, whom Johnson was sure would be supportive of the war.

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By the end of 1967, 20,057 Americans had died in Vietnam.

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The time had come, General Westmorland said,

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for an all-out offensive on all fronts.

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But the enemy was just a month away

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from launching an all-out offensive of its own.

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MUSIC: Paint It Black by The Rolling Stones

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# I see a red door

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# And I want it painted black

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# No colours any more

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# I want them to turn black

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# I see the girls walk by dressed in their summer clothes

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# I have to turn my head until my darkness goes... #

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