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For more than half a century, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
the BBC has captured the changing face of everyday life | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
in Northern Ireland. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
It all seems so innocent today, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
but without these moments, | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
something of who we are now would be lost forever. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
These are the archives, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
and those were the days. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
It's completely invaluable to look back at film, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
because they take us back to another time. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
Hearing people talk about their lives, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
that's priceless, and we should be proud of the footage we have | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
of our people talking about their lives. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
Film in particular, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
because to actually drive down the streets | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
when the terraced houses were coming down, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
it just gives you... | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
It's like finding a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
In 1954, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
the BBC's foremost broadcaster, Richard Dimbleby. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
was dispatched from London | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
to journey around what was then an unknown country to many viewers. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:26 | |
What Dimbleby was searching for, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
down our highways and byways, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
was a traditional Ulster homestead. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
Dimbleby himself is... I mean, fantastic. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
He's like an intellectual Billy Bunter. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
He's vast! | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
There's a fantastic shot, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:48 | |
as he walks down steps at Belfast Castle with Joseph Tomelty, | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
absolutely fantastic. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
-Let's have a seat. Take the weight off your legs. -Hmm. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
Then, there's that very English, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
you know, whatever you do, when you're amongst the mad Paddies, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
don't mention religion, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
politics, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:09 | |
that kind of very English deference, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
not wanting to upset the natives, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
which you can't quite tell whether it's sarcasm or good manners. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
Joe, what do you think I ought to look for while I'm here? | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
Richard, that's hard for me to say. I can tell you what not to look for. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
You don't need to tell me that, I know already. Religion and politics. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
You just watch it and you think to yourself, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
poor Mr Tomelty. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
He has been told that this legend is coming across from the BBC, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:39 | |
and he's about to despatch him | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
into the heart of darkness | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
that is, you know, the Antrim Coast Road. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
'Well, I started off in good weather. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
'But I can't say that the Riviera came to my mind on the Antrim Road.' | 0:02:49 | 0:02:55 | |
It may not have been the Cote D'Azur, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
but this coast road led Dimbleby | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
to an untarnished tableau of rural Ulster life. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
Locals gathered round the fire | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
to enjoy music, share stories, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
and introduce viewers to a lifestyle | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
free from the modern-day distractions | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
of television, technology, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
and cosmetic dentistry. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
'The sound of a fiddle | 0:03:17 | 0:03:18 | |
'told me where I should find the Emerson farm, and the ceilidh.' | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
FIDDLE MUSIC | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
The thing that I was really taken by were the smiles of the people. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
If you look at the smiles very carefully, they keep the lips down, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
and then now and again the lips slip back, | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
and you see why they keep the lips down. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
Their teeth are terrible. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
There's one man, a young, sort of 18 or 19-year-old boy. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
When you look into his mouth, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
it's Stonehenge that you're seeing suddenly, very frighteningly. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
What about having a guess or two? | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
Well, give us one of yours. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
All right. There's a wee white woman with a wee red nose, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
and the longer she sits, the shorter she grows. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
Now, who'll guess that one? | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
Och, sure, that's a candle. A candle. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
Aye, it's a candle all right. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
They're doing what people have been doing for hundreds of years. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
It's only us, who now, because we've got TV and electricity, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
it's only us, very recently, who've stopped living like that, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
and have started living a completely different kind of life. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
We invite you now to join our Northern Ireland viewers | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
for a further edition of our television magazine, Ulster Mirror. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
Away from the rosy picture of rustic living | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
portrayed in Richard Dimbleby's journey | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
was a looming housing crisis | 0:04:41 | 0:04:42 | |
for most ordinary people living in Northern Ireland. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
The slums that were present in our towns and cities | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
had remained unchanged for generations. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
'Places where people live merit some attention. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
'Lots of us live in houses like this, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
'some of us in the Victorian this, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
'and in little towns, often in this. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
'All very trim, and indeed, at times picturesque, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
'but what about this? It was in a country town. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
'Green fields were no distance away, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
'but the garbage could have been accumulated in the big city. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:16 | |
'The slum terraces reeked of dilapidation and neglect. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
'These were the worst we could find in Ulster.' | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
It's important to put into context | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
just how bad the housing stock in Northern Ireland was. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
100,000 houses, they reckoned in 1945, were required | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
to house the population in Northern Ireland. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
Now, put in context, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
they were only building 2,500 a year up until that point, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
so there was a serious problem to be addressed. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
They set up the Northern Ireland Housing Trust, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
and they were given a quarter, 25,000 houses | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
they were entrusted to build. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
'You see, the old houses are quite easy to knock down, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
'while new houses are costly to build. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
'Yet this sort of thing is happening more all over Ulster. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
'This change from old standards to the new.' | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
New standards would mean the demolition of the old way of life. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
Established neighbourhoods and much-loved street names | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
would vanish off the map. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
However, not everyone was progressing up the housing ladder. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
In the mid-1960s the BBC went to film with the families | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
caught between a home and a hard place. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
Take one! | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
Take one! | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
All I want is a home | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
for my husband, myself and children, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
and surely that's not too much to ask. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
In all of those housing films, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
you had the people themselves talking directly to camera. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
That move during that period to people speaking for themselves | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
is very, very important. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:52 | |
It's come right through to the present day, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
where we have almost a fetishisation of liveness. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
We need to be there on the spot, at people telling us what happened. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
And that was the start of it, in those films in the 1950s and '60s. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
Well, there's 15 of us living in a two-bedroomed house. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
My husband has to sleep on a chair-bed, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
and I sleep on two chairs put together. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
Two of my babies sleep with my mother and father, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
and another one sleeps in a cot, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
and I have no cot for the child, I'm not able to put one up. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
And it sleeps in a small pram. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
What's it like to live in this kind of situation? | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
It's terrible, indeed. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:28 | |
I think the real strength of some of the archive material | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
is seeing the actual women who were living in these houses. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
I can't begin to imagine what it must have been like for those woman. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
But you see a real strength in them, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
you know, you see woman who made it work, somehow. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
Slate 87, take three. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
Unfortunately, when we look at films like this, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
20-20 hindsight is a great thing. When we know what happened, | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
one can say, "Somebody should have seen that." | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
But I think that those conditions were so bad | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
that somebody should have seen that. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
Our house would have been typical. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
We had the mother and father, and then 12 children | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
in a one-bedroomed house. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
The mother and father slept in one bed | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
with maybe the youngest in the house, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
and in one of the other beds, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
there was eight of us in the one bed, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
and it was like a question of, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
"Everybody turn to their right!" | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
And so you had to do a sort of synchronised sleeping, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
as opposed to synchronised swimming. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
Of course, there was a bit of swimming as well, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
because when you're younger, some of us wet the bed. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
Our Brian says he slept at the shallow end. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
Just as the old heart of the city began to change forever, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
BBC viewers were taken on a remarkable drive | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
through the fading backstreets of North Belfast. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
A drive designed to capture the once-vibrant working class community | 0:08:49 | 0:08:54 | |
that was about to disappear. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
MUSIC: "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" By Van Morrison | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
# You must leave now, take what you need | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
# You think will last | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
# But whatever you wish to keep | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
# You better grab it fast. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:13 | |
# Yonder stands your orphan with his gun... # | 0:09:13 | 0:09:20 | |
I thought it was fantastic to see | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
that somebody in the BBC had gone off at that time | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
and literally drove around the streets, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:30 | |
giving us a house-by-house, shop-by-shop, pub-by-pub | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
view of an era. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:34 | |
# And it's all over now, Baby Blue. # | 0:09:39 | 0:09:45 | |
Some of the shots where you're just seeing street after street, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
and half-demolished little back sheds, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
with maybe corrugated iron roofs, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
and great swathes of a city | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
that were just covered in really high-density housing. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
# The empty-handed painter from your streets... # | 0:10:05 | 0:10:11 | |
When you look back on it now, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
it's like a packed, dense kaleidoscope of life, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:18 | |
because everybody else's life was being lived on top of yours. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
You know, that kind of, like, intensified form of living, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
it led to a lot of advantages and a lot of disadvantages, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
but I must say, I look back on it fondly. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
There was a great spirit in those little terraced streets, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
and there had to be, because the people were... | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
I mean, people talk about poverty now. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
Poverty now is nothing to what people were living in then. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
People were living on nothing. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
MUSIC: "Dead End Street" By the Kinks | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
A new way of life would rise from the rubble. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
High-rise flats and large-scale housing estates | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
would completely transform the urban landscape of Northern Ireland. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:02 | |
Home would have a new name in the modern world. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
# What are we living for? | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
# Two-roomed apartment on the second floor... # | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
I can remember the first talk in the house around 1960. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
I heard them talking about a new house, and Rathcoole was mentioned. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
It was just a big notion for you. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
They could have been saying, "Los Angeles." | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
And then, Turf Lodge was mentioned. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
Ballymurphy was mentioned. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
Divis Flats was mentioned. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
All these locations. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:37 | |
My ma was particularly pushing my father to get somewhere new, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
and I think that's probably how we ended up in Turf Lodge. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
I think moving from a terrace of back-to-back housing, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
to move to somewhere where | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
there were parks, trees, playing fields | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
must have been an extraordinary journey for these people. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
The trouble was, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
there was a street where maybe people had lived for 100 years, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
then all of a sudden, you're moving them into a social programme, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
they're getting a new house, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
their neighbours might be three streets away, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
or maybe the neighbours never came. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
Broadly speaking, I think they made a real hames of it | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
in the way they built Rathcoole, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
Turf Lodge, Taughmonagh, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
and they just split up the inner-city districts | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
and dispersed people off everywhere. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
Looking back on it now, there isn't any reason why | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
they couldn't have had a phased development, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
where they knocked the houses down in one section | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
and got the people back in round the corner, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
kept the same neighbours, broadly speaking, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
kept the sense of identity. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
Ten years earlier, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
at the beginning of this great change, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
the BBC captured the optimism of a generation, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
who were told they had never had it so good. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
Rathcoole, just outside Belfast, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
was a mega housing estate | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
and at one time the biggest in Europe. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
It had been designed to solve the city's housing problem | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
and offer young families a completely new start. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
Rathcoole to me was just a name, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
but when we came to Rathcoole | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
it was one of those things | 0:13:19 | 0:13:20 | |
that you said to yourself, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
"This is where I want to live." | 0:13:22 | 0:13:23 | |
It was just a world of green, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
houses right up the drive, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
gardens in front of every house. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
MUSIC: "Let The Good Times Roll" By Shirley and Lee | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
Having your own space outside the house was lovely for me. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:41 | |
We'd never had a garden. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:42 | |
It was great fun learning, of course what to put in them, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
and how they would grow. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:47 | |
And at first it was just houses, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
and then at the end of the houses | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
would be another bigger house made into two flats. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
That was The Flats. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
And then I think there was the flats built, as you see in the film, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
on a curve, and they were known locally as the Banana Flats. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:07 | |
I was reared in a house with a yard out the back, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
and the toilet was out there. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
Getting the house in Rathcoole, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
with an indoor toilet, and a bath, was luxury. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
To be able to go up and turn the hot water on, have a bath, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
close the door and have such privacy, it was brilliant. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
It was privacy, it was luxury, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
there was never anybody rapping the door to get in to go to the loo, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
and all sorts of things, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:37 | |
but the bathroom was the one big luxury, I think, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
it was the thing that I appreciated. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
The bathroom and then the garden, I think in that order. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
BBC PRESENTER: 'We chose to visit the Long family in Rathcoole Drive, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
'to go around with them a bit and see through their eyes | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
'something of what it's like to live on a Housing Trust estate.' | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
Well, that's the way children were in those days. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
They had their wee coats on them, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
their hats, their scarves, their gloves. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
You didn't go out just whatever way you wanted then. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
You went out dressed. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
And you had to have your gloves on, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
and it was just like my mummy, seeing us out. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
'Mrs Miller lives in Ardlea Crescent, in an old people's house. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
'Living-room, kitchen, bedroom and bathroom.' | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
That family would have been the same as most families in Rathcoole. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:30 | |
Their children would have visited their grandmother and grandfathers, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
and they would have went and visited friends. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
In the house they went to visit, the ornament sitting in the window, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:41 | |
my mummy had one exactly the same. Exactly the same, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
so it was just our home, except in a different place. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
'Other small houses are cunningly fitted into corner sites, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
'like this Type D flat, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
'where Anne Murray, the children's friend, lives.' | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
When we moved in, it was a whole new area being redeveloped, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
so the people all moved in together, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
and we made friends, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
and everybody was in the same boat. Not very much money. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
And it was a community. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:11 | |
'And Rathcoole already has a focal point, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
'in the big old Georgian house | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
'where the housing manager's office is to be found.' | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
That was a big estate at one time, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
and it became a home for lots of things. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
The doctor had a surgery there in one of the rooms, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
and it was just used as a community centre for a while. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
'Mrs Long, the children's mother, is on her way shopping.' | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
However, the optimism of the housing estates was short-lived. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
The onset of the Troubles in the late 1960s | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
meant that many of the early promises | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
would remain just that. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
But for those founding settlers who stayed and raised their families, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
Rathcoole would always be home. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
Well, I'm still living in the same house that I moved into, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
and I've no intentions of moving out. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
I still like Rathcoole. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
To me, it's home now, and to me, I have my friends, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
still the same friends I made 47 years ago. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
I fought to stay. I saw the hard times. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
I went back with the good times, and I'll probably... | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
I'll fall off the perch when I get there! | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
While most of us went about our day-to-day lives, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
far removed from a designer lifestyle with all the trimmings, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
one Belfast superstar | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
was living the dream. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
A 1971 documentary | 0:17:40 | 0:17:41 | |
gave us a tantalising glimpse | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
into the home life of a Belfast football legend. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
You know, George was, I always felt, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
our representative out there in the world that was swinging. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:59 | |
I think there was an awful lot invested in George. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
My feeling always was, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
insofar that I could express it | 0:18:06 | 0:18:07 | |
at the age of nine, or ten, | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
you know, "Good on you. A wee bit of that is ours." | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
BBC PRESENTER: The most obvious symbol of Best's success | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
is the uncompromisingly modern house | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
he has had built on a hill outside Manchester. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
George's house is so 1971 it's not true. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
Now you'd probably drive past | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
if it was still there and think, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:27 | |
"What an atrocity, what a '70s disaster." | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
But back then, 1971, that was just the house to have. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
The fact you could drive in under the house and park your car, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
that's very cool, that's very Persuaders. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
I mean, that is a cool house. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
Those mad arcing lights | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
and the incredible touch-button TV, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
a colour TV! | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
To have a pushbutton anything in 1970-71, you know, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
changing channels was still, it was a day trip. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
You had to get up from the sofa, schlep across the room | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
and turn it over, and try and get it exactly right. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
Opening safes was easier. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
He's got this huge snooker table, which fills the entire room. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:12 | |
And it looks like the bedroom hasn't been touched at all. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
There's the old quilt, there's the old cover over the bed. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:19 | |
George Best then is not only perhaps the world's greatest footballer, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
he's also one of the best-looking blokes in the world, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
and he's always happy to get the shirt off. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
He's a sex symbol, and happy to show it off. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
George had it, he'd flaunt it, and not just on the football pitch. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
He's looking good as he goes to the bath, so fair play to him. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
He's got it. Flaunt it. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
I love the bathroom. I love that he has it in Manchester United colours, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
I love the fact he has a footballer's bath as well, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
it's like something from Old Trafford, | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
and he's had transported into his dream home. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
It's perfectly of the period. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
It's 1971, but I tell you what, | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
if it was up for sale today, and I could afford it, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
I'd move in, and I'd be in that bath in seconds. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
We're not sure if George Best took interior design inspiration | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
from the Ideal Home Exhibition, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
but thousands of house-proud locals | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
couldn't resist the lure of this annual King's Hall extravaganza. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
The Ideal Home Exhibition at one time was in everyone's social calendar. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
If you didn't go to the Ideal Home Exhibition, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
you were missing something. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
Whether like me, you're here with no money to have a look, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
or whether you've come to buy something, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
there really is something for everybody. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
It was one of the events of the year. Everybody went, really. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
Maybe people had a bit more disposable money for a change, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
they were starting to move on from where their parents might have been, | 0:20:56 | 0:21:01 | |
from a lot of that very utilitarian furniture | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
that there would have been, certainly in the '50s. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
That was, sort of round the 1980s, people realising, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
"Look, you know, there's a lot of innovation in here now, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
"I can do things to my house, make my house more lived-in, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
"I want to show off my house, | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
"I want to show off my avocado bathroom suite, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
"my new dining room table," whereas there wouldn't have been that before. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
I think people were becoming more aware of style. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
I think, more importantly, people also wanted to dream. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
They wanted to see those things that they can't have. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
There's that through-the-keyhole thing. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
They want to see how the other half live, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
and have something to dream about or aspire to. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
And if you get a bit foot-sore | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
while you're walking around the exhibition, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
you can always have a rest on something like this, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
which is a water bed, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:53 | |
for only £499. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
It was the first time I had ever seen a water bed, actually. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
And it was fun, bouncing around on it, I must say. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
£499, I thought that was a fortune. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
Imagine spending that on a bed? | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
No wonder they didn't catch on. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
That's the porridge in there. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
I've got it very sticky and gooey and messy. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
You had, of course, what we call the demonstrators. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
The demonstrators always added that bit of theatre. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
The egg we've got in the pan there, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
that's the egg cooked. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:26 | |
They were always English, and always, "Yeah, come over here!" | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
I suppose they were like latter-day market traders, you know, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
and they were, they made you really, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
how did you survive without this apple segmenter or whatever it was? | 0:22:35 | 0:22:40 | |
No tinfoil, no cellophane. It's not required. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
There'd be selling something like a special cheese-grater | 0:22:44 | 0:22:49 | |
or those things where you banged up and down, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
and it was supposed to reduce your onion to very tiny bits in no time. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
You banged it up and down a few times when you got it home, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
and the whole thing fell apart. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
Just as the 1980s declared the demise of dull | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
and championed the birth of bling, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
Robinsons Builders, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
the family business behind the centrepiece show-home, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
saw room for improvement and put their money where their house was. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:19 | |
It's very simple. For the last seven years, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
we have been involved in building | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
the Ideal Home house, that's the central feature. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
My father was always known as Joe Robinson, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
and Joe Robinson was a builder. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
In 1981, we were offered | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
the opportunity to buy the contract for the exhibition, | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
and we agreed that we would borrow a serious amount of money, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:41 | |
then it was a serious amount of money, to buy the contract. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
The basic concept of the show is the same. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
We have to consider a lot of the people that like to come, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
and don't like changes... | 0:23:51 | 0:23:52 | |
The archive you have of the interview | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
is a very proud Joe Robinson, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
having got this exhibition together | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
at a time when the exhibition had dipped considerably | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
and we knew, having been involved with show houses, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
that a lot of key exhibitors were going to pull out, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
and I say, fools rush in, but we pulled it together. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
We pulled together a very credible exhibition, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
a very interesting exhibition, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
and that's the pride that he shows in the interview. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
MUSIC: "Don't Stop" By Fleetwood Mac | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
We needed to generate publicity. We needed to generate media attention, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
and what we looked at | 0:24:32 | 0:24:33 | |
was media personalities, celebrities, if you like, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
that might be of interest to the public at the time. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
There's a fabulous range of products | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
on display at the exhibition this year. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
You might come up not knowing | 0:24:44 | 0:24:45 | |
if you want a new kitchen knife or a whole new kitchen. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
The presenters liked to get involved, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
and it suited us to get involved too, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
and a very young Noel, I have to add, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
was seen sipping champagne in there with a very lovely young lady. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
But what you really need is one of these. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
A California-style whirlpool Jacuzzi bath. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
Invigorating, refreshing, guaranteed to get you perked up | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
and speed up your metabolism in the morning. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
All for a mere £2,200. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
And if you happen to know one of the salesmen, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
there are some optional extras available | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
that really do make it an ideal home. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
Cheers. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
Noel Thompson, God bless him, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
sitting there with his glass of champagne, it was just so... | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
And this girl, this model, in the corner, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
who obviously wasn't allowed to speak. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
It's a tough job, but somebody's got to do it sometime, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
and yeah, there's all sorts of antics like that. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
It's all about generating publicity from our point of view, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
and that's what made the whole industry fun. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
And, as if finding BBC presenters in your hot tub wasn't enough, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
the best was still to come. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
For sitting at the heart of the King's Hall complex | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
was the last word in luxury living, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
the must-see legendary show house. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
The show house was the focal part of the exhibition. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
We realised that you just don't put a little, | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
maybe 1050-square-foot bungalow in the middle. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
This has got to create the wow factor. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
The difficulty each year | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
was to go better than the previous year, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
and you can never go better, you have to go different. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
If it's ultra-modern one year, you go very traditional the next year, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
and vice versa. You just keep creating a difference, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
and hope that difference is enough | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
to create the perception it's better than the previous year. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
However, as tastes changed, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
and new generations of house-owners | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
found faster ways to create their ideal homes, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
there was no longer the same need for the annual exhibition. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
Consumers became more discerning. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
You had the emergence of shopping centres, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
you had the emergence of the retail parks. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
I think the internet's made everything instant. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
There's nothing new anymore, | 0:26:57 | 0:26:58 | |
whereas the Ideal Home Exhibition was somewhere you could have gone | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
and got something innovative, taken it home, shown it to your friends. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
Now it's like, "Whatever. I've seen that." | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
To a generation, or to generations that perhaps aren't around any more, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:13 | |
the loss of it would have been quite massive to them. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
To younger generations, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
they don't even notice its existence having gone now. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:24 | |
What is also gone, and totally unknown to the younger generations, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
is the Northern Ireland that Richard Dimblebly explored in the 1950s. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:36 | |
This is a forgotten portrait of our home | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
that now only exists on film. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
When you look at the Dimbleby film made in 1954, | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
that's the parents or grandparents | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
or great-grandparents of most people. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
They're simple and they're rural and they're deferential | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
and they're old-fashioned and they're hard-working, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
and that's what we've all come out of. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
'And that was the end of my Ulster journey.' | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
-Well, Richard, are you any wiser for your rambling? -I am that. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
It's like a time capsule. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
It takes you back to the sort of feelings people had, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
and the way they talked. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
Looking back at any films of that kind, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
I think the real benefit of looking back is hearing those voices, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:22 | |
what I like to call those echoes of the sacred | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
that are passed down, even though you might not know who said them, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
you know what was said. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
The story of our homes, | 0:28:32 | 0:28:33 | |
whether in the country, | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
town or city, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
is also the story of how we used to live. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
And thanks to a rich archive and the magic of film, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
we can bring those bygone days back to life. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
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