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For more than half a century,

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the BBC has captured the changing face of everyday life

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in Northern Ireland.

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It all seems so innocent today,

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but without these moments,

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something of who we are now would be lost forever.

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These are the archives,

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and those were the days.

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It's completely invaluable to look back at film,

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because they take us back to another time.

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Hearing people talk about their lives,

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that's priceless, and we should be proud of the footage we have

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of our people talking about their lives.

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Film in particular,

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because to actually drive down the streets

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when the terraced houses were coming down,

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it just gives you...

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It's like finding a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

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In 1954,

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the BBC's foremost broadcaster, Richard Dimbleby.

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was dispatched from London

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to journey around what was then an unknown country to many viewers.

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What Dimbleby was searching for,

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down our highways and byways,

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was a traditional Ulster homestead.

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Dimbleby himself is... I mean, fantastic.

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He's like an intellectual Billy Bunter.

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He's vast!

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There's a fantastic shot,

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as he walks down steps at Belfast Castle with Joseph Tomelty,

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absolutely fantastic.

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-Let's have a seat. Take the weight off your legs.

-Hmm.

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Then, there's that very English,

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you know, whatever you do, when you're amongst the mad Paddies,

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don't mention religion,

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politics,

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that kind of very English deference,

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not wanting to upset the natives,

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which you can't quite tell whether it's sarcasm or good manners.

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Joe, what do you think I ought to look for while I'm here?

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Richard, that's hard for me to say. I can tell you what not to look for.

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You don't need to tell me that, I know already. Religion and politics.

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You just watch it and you think to yourself,

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poor Mr Tomelty.

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He has been told that this legend is coming across from the BBC,

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and he's about to despatch him

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into the heart of darkness

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that is, you know, the Antrim Coast Road.

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'Well, I started off in good weather.

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'But I can't say that the Riviera came to my mind on the Antrim Road.'

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It may not have been the Cote D'Azur,

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but this coast road led Dimbleby

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to an untarnished tableau of rural Ulster life.

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Locals gathered round the fire

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to enjoy music, share stories,

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and introduce viewers to a lifestyle

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free from the modern-day distractions

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of television, technology,

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and cosmetic dentistry.

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'The sound of a fiddle

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'told me where I should find the Emerson farm, and the ceilidh.'

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FIDDLE MUSIC

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The thing that I was really taken by were the smiles of the people.

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If you look at the smiles very carefully, they keep the lips down,

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and then now and again the lips slip back,

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and you see why they keep the lips down.

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Their teeth are terrible.

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There's one man, a young, sort of 18 or 19-year-old boy.

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When you look into his mouth,

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it's Stonehenge that you're seeing suddenly, very frighteningly.

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What about having a guess or two?

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Well, give us one of yours.

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All right. There's a wee white woman with a wee red nose,

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and the longer she sits, the shorter she grows.

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Now, who'll guess that one?

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Och, sure, that's a candle. A candle.

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Aye, it's a candle all right.

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They're doing what people have been doing for hundreds of years.

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It's only us, who now, because we've got TV and electricity,

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it's only us, very recently, who've stopped living like that,

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and have started living a completely different kind of life.

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We invite you now to join our Northern Ireland viewers

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for a further edition of our television magazine, Ulster Mirror.

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Away from the rosy picture of rustic living

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portrayed in Richard Dimbleby's journey

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was a looming housing crisis

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for most ordinary people living in Northern Ireland.

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The slums that were present in our towns and cities

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had remained unchanged for generations.

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'Places where people live merit some attention.

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'Lots of us live in houses like this,

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'some of us in the Victorian this,

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'and in little towns, often in this.

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'All very trim, and indeed, at times picturesque,

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'but what about this? It was in a country town.

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'Green fields were no distance away,

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'but the garbage could have been accumulated in the big city.

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'The slum terraces reeked of dilapidation and neglect.

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'These were the worst we could find in Ulster.'

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It's important to put into context

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just how bad the housing stock in Northern Ireland was.

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100,000 houses, they reckoned in 1945, were required

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to house the population in Northern Ireland.

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Now, put in context,

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they were only building 2,500 a year up until that point,

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so there was a serious problem to be addressed.

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They set up the Northern Ireland Housing Trust,

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and they were given a quarter, 25,000 houses

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they were entrusted to build.

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'You see, the old houses are quite easy to knock down,

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'while new houses are costly to build.

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'Yet this sort of thing is happening more all over Ulster.

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'This change from old standards to the new.'

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New standards would mean the demolition of the old way of life.

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Established neighbourhoods and much-loved street names

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would vanish off the map.

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However, not everyone was progressing up the housing ladder.

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In the mid-1960s the BBC went to film with the families

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caught between a home and a hard place.

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Take one!

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Take one!

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All I want is a home

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for my husband, myself and children,

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and surely that's not too much to ask.

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In all of those housing films,

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you had the people themselves talking directly to camera.

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That move during that period to people speaking for themselves

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is very, very important.

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It's come right through to the present day,

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where we have almost a fetishisation of liveness.

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We need to be there on the spot, at people telling us what happened.

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And that was the start of it, in those films in the 1950s and '60s.

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Well, there's 15 of us living in a two-bedroomed house.

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My husband has to sleep on a chair-bed,

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and I sleep on two chairs put together.

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Two of my babies sleep with my mother and father,

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and another one sleeps in a cot,

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and I have no cot for the child, I'm not able to put one up.

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And it sleeps in a small pram.

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What's it like to live in this kind of situation?

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It's terrible, indeed.

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I think the real strength of some of the archive material

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is seeing the actual women who were living in these houses.

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I can't begin to imagine what it must have been like for those woman.

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But you see a real strength in them,

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you know, you see woman who made it work, somehow.

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Slate 87, take three.

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Unfortunately, when we look at films like this,

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20-20 hindsight is a great thing. When we know what happened,

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one can say, "Somebody should have seen that."

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But I think that those conditions were so bad

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that somebody should have seen that.

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Our house would have been typical.

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We had the mother and father, and then 12 children

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in a one-bedroomed house.

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The mother and father slept in one bed

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with maybe the youngest in the house,

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and in one of the other beds,

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there was eight of us in the one bed,

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and it was like a question of,

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"Everybody turn to their right!"

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And so you had to do a sort of synchronised sleeping,

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as opposed to synchronised swimming.

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Of course, there was a bit of swimming as well,

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because when you're younger, some of us wet the bed.

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Our Brian says he slept at the shallow end.

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Just as the old heart of the city began to change forever,

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BBC viewers were taken on a remarkable drive

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through the fading backstreets of North Belfast.

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A drive designed to capture the once-vibrant working class community

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that was about to disappear.

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MUSIC: "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" By Van Morrison

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# You must leave now, take what you need

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# You think will last

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# But whatever you wish to keep

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# You better grab it fast.

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# Yonder stands your orphan with his gun... #

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I thought it was fantastic to see

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that somebody in the BBC had gone off at that time

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and literally drove around the streets,

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giving us a house-by-house, shop-by-shop, pub-by-pub

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view of an era.

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# And it's all over now, Baby Blue. #

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Some of the shots where you're just seeing street after street,

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and half-demolished little back sheds,

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with maybe corrugated iron roofs,

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and great swathes of a city

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that were just covered in really high-density housing.

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# The empty-handed painter from your streets... #

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When you look back on it now,

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it's like a packed, dense kaleidoscope of life,

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because everybody else's life was being lived on top of yours.

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You know, that kind of, like, intensified form of living,

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it led to a lot of advantages and a lot of disadvantages,

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but I must say, I look back on it fondly.

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There was a great spirit in those little terraced streets,

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and there had to be, because the people were...

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I mean, people talk about poverty now.

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Poverty now is nothing to what people were living in then.

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People were living on nothing.

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MUSIC: "Dead End Street" By the Kinks

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A new way of life would rise from the rubble.

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High-rise flats and large-scale housing estates

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would completely transform the urban landscape of Northern Ireland.

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Home would have a new name in the modern world.

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# What are we living for?

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# Two-roomed apartment on the second floor... #

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I can remember the first talk in the house around 1960.

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I heard them talking about a new house, and Rathcoole was mentioned.

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It was just a big notion for you.

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They could have been saying, "Los Angeles."

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And then, Turf Lodge was mentioned.

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Ballymurphy was mentioned.

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Divis Flats was mentioned.

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All these locations.

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My ma was particularly pushing my father to get somewhere new,

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and I think that's probably how we ended up in Turf Lodge.

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I think moving from a terrace of back-to-back housing,

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to move to somewhere where

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there were parks, trees, playing fields

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must have been an extraordinary journey for these people.

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The trouble was,

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there was a street where maybe people had lived for 100 years,

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then all of a sudden, you're moving them into a social programme,

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they're getting a new house,

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their neighbours might be three streets away,

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or maybe the neighbours never came.

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Broadly speaking, I think they made a real hames of it

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in the way they built Rathcoole,

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Turf Lodge, Taughmonagh,

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and they just split up the inner-city districts

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and dispersed people off everywhere.

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Looking back on it now, there isn't any reason why

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they couldn't have had a phased development,

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where they knocked the houses down in one section

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and got the people back in round the corner,

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kept the same neighbours, broadly speaking,

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kept the sense of identity.

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Ten years earlier,

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at the beginning of this great change,

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the BBC captured the optimism of a generation,

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who were told they had never had it so good.

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Rathcoole, just outside Belfast,

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was a mega housing estate

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and at one time the biggest in Europe.

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It had been designed to solve the city's housing problem

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and offer young families a completely new start.

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Rathcoole to me was just a name,

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but when we came to Rathcoole

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it was one of those things

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that you said to yourself,

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"This is where I want to live."

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It was just a world of green,

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houses right up the drive,

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gardens in front of every house.

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MUSIC: "Let The Good Times Roll" By Shirley and Lee

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Having your own space outside the house was lovely for me.

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We'd never had a garden.

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It was great fun learning, of course what to put in them,

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and how they would grow.

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And at first it was just houses,

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and then at the end of the houses

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would be another bigger house made into two flats.

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That was The Flats.

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And then I think there was the flats built, as you see in the film,

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on a curve, and they were known locally as the Banana Flats.

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I was reared in a house with a yard out the back,

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and the toilet was out there.

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Getting the house in Rathcoole,

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with an indoor toilet, and a bath, was luxury.

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To be able to go up and turn the hot water on, have a bath,

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close the door and have such privacy, it was brilliant.

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It was privacy, it was luxury,

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there was never anybody rapping the door to get in to go to the loo,

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and all sorts of things,

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but the bathroom was the one big luxury, I think,

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it was the thing that I appreciated.

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The bathroom and then the garden, I think in that order.

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BBC PRESENTER: 'We chose to visit the Long family in Rathcoole Drive,

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'to go around with them a bit and see through their eyes

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'something of what it's like to live on a Housing Trust estate.'

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Well, that's the way children were in those days.

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They had their wee coats on them,

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their hats, their scarves, their gloves.

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You didn't go out just whatever way you wanted then.

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You went out dressed.

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And you had to have your gloves on,

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and it was just like my mummy, seeing us out.

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'Mrs Miller lives in Ardlea Crescent, in an old people's house.

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'Living-room, kitchen, bedroom and bathroom.'

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That family would have been the same as most families in Rathcoole.

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Their children would have visited their grandmother and grandfathers,

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and they would have went and visited friends.

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In the house they went to visit, the ornament sitting in the window,

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my mummy had one exactly the same. Exactly the same,

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so it was just our home, except in a different place.

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'Other small houses are cunningly fitted into corner sites,

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'like this Type D flat,

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'where Anne Murray, the children's friend, lives.'

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When we moved in, it was a whole new area being redeveloped,

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so the people all moved in together,

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and we made friends,

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and everybody was in the same boat. Not very much money.

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And it was a community.

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'And Rathcoole already has a focal point,

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'in the big old Georgian house

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'where the housing manager's office is to be found.'

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That was a big estate at one time,

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and it became a home for lots of things.

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The doctor had a surgery there in one of the rooms,

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and it was just used as a community centre for a while.

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'Mrs Long, the children's mother, is on her way shopping.'

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However, the optimism of the housing estates was short-lived.

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The onset of the Troubles in the late 1960s

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meant that many of the early promises

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would remain just that.

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But for those founding settlers who stayed and raised their families,

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Rathcoole would always be home.

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Well, I'm still living in the same house that I moved into,

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and I've no intentions of moving out.

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I still like Rathcoole.

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To me, it's home now, and to me, I have my friends,

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still the same friends I made 47 years ago.

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I fought to stay. I saw the hard times.

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I went back with the good times, and I'll probably...

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I'll fall off the perch when I get there!

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While most of us went about our day-to-day lives,

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far removed from a designer lifestyle with all the trimmings,

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one Belfast superstar

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was living the dream.

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A 1971 documentary

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gave us a tantalising glimpse

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into the home life of a Belfast football legend.

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You know, George was, I always felt,

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our representative out there in the world that was swinging.

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I think there was an awful lot invested in George.

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My feeling always was,

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insofar that I could express it

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at the age of nine, or ten,

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you know, "Good on you. A wee bit of that is ours."

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BBC PRESENTER: The most obvious symbol of Best's success

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is the uncompromisingly modern house

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he has had built on a hill outside Manchester.

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George's house is so 1971 it's not true.

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Now you'd probably drive past

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if it was still there and think,

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"What an atrocity, what a '70s disaster."

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But back then, 1971, that was just the house to have.

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The fact you could drive in under the house and park your car,

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that's very cool, that's very Persuaders.

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I mean, that is a cool house.

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Those mad arcing lights

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and the incredible touch-button TV,

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a colour TV!

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To have a pushbutton anything in 1970-71, you know,

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changing channels was still, it was a day trip.

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You had to get up from the sofa, schlep across the room

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and turn it over, and try and get it exactly right.

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Opening safes was easier.

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He's got this huge snooker table, which fills the entire room.

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And it looks like the bedroom hasn't been touched at all.

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There's the old quilt, there's the old cover over the bed.

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George Best then is not only perhaps the world's greatest footballer,

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he's also one of the best-looking blokes in the world,

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and he's always happy to get the shirt off.

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He's a sex symbol, and happy to show it off.

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George had it, he'd flaunt it, and not just on the football pitch.

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He's looking good as he goes to the bath, so fair play to him.

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He's got it. Flaunt it.

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I love the bathroom. I love that he has it in Manchester United colours,

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I love the fact he has a footballer's bath as well,

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it's like something from Old Trafford,

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and he's had transported into his dream home.

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It's perfectly of the period.

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It's 1971, but I tell you what,

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if it was up for sale today, and I could afford it,

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I'd move in, and I'd be in that bath in seconds.

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We're not sure if George Best took interior design inspiration

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from the Ideal Home Exhibition,

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but thousands of house-proud locals

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couldn't resist the lure of this annual King's Hall extravaganza.

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The Ideal Home Exhibition at one time was in everyone's social calendar.

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If you didn't go to the Ideal Home Exhibition,

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you were missing something.

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Whether like me, you're here with no money to have a look,

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or whether you've come to buy something,

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there really is something for everybody.

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It was one of the events of the year. Everybody went, really.

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Maybe people had a bit more disposable money for a change,

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they were starting to move on from where their parents might have been,

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from a lot of that very utilitarian furniture

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that there would have been, certainly in the '50s.

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That was, sort of round the 1980s, people realising,

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"Look, you know, there's a lot of innovation in here now,

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"I can do things to my house, make my house more lived-in,

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"I want to show off my house,

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"I want to show off my avocado bathroom suite,

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"my new dining room table," whereas there wouldn't have been that before.

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I think people were becoming more aware of style.

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I think, more importantly, people also wanted to dream.

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They wanted to see those things that they can't have.

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There's that through-the-keyhole thing.

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They want to see how the other half live,

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and have something to dream about or aspire to.

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And if you get a bit foot-sore

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while you're walking around the exhibition,

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you can always have a rest on something like this,

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which is a water bed,

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for only £499.

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It was the first time I had ever seen a water bed, actually.

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And it was fun, bouncing around on it, I must say.

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£499, I thought that was a fortune.

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Imagine spending that on a bed?

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No wonder they didn't catch on.

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That's the porridge in there.

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I've got it very sticky and gooey and messy.

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You had, of course, what we call the demonstrators.

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The demonstrators always added that bit of theatre.

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The egg we've got in the pan there,

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that's the egg cooked.

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They were always English, and always, "Yeah, come over here!"

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I suppose they were like latter-day market traders, you know,

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and they were, they made you really,

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how did you survive without this apple segmenter or whatever it was?

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No tinfoil, no cellophane. It's not required.

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There'd be selling something like a special cheese-grater

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or those things where you banged up and down,

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and it was supposed to reduce your onion to very tiny bits in no time.

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You banged it up and down a few times when you got it home,

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and the whole thing fell apart.

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Just as the 1980s declared the demise of dull

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and championed the birth of bling,

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Robinsons Builders,

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the family business behind the centrepiece show-home,

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saw room for improvement and put their money where their house was.

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It's very simple. For the last seven years,

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we have been involved in building

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the Ideal Home house, that's the central feature.

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My father was always known as Joe Robinson,

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and Joe Robinson was a builder.

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In 1981, we were offered

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the opportunity to buy the contract for the exhibition,

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and we agreed that we would borrow a serious amount of money,

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then it was a serious amount of money, to buy the contract.

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The basic concept of the show is the same.

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We have to consider a lot of the people that like to come,

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and don't like changes...

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The archive you have of the interview

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is a very proud Joe Robinson,

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having got this exhibition together

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at a time when the exhibition had dipped considerably

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and we knew, having been involved with show houses,

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that a lot of key exhibitors were going to pull out,

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and I say, fools rush in, but we pulled it together.

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We pulled together a very credible exhibition,

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a very interesting exhibition,

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and that's the pride that he shows in the interview.

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MUSIC: "Don't Stop" By Fleetwood Mac

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We needed to generate publicity. We needed to generate media attention,

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and what we looked at

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was media personalities, celebrities, if you like,

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that might be of interest to the public at the time.

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There's a fabulous range of products

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on display at the exhibition this year.

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You might come up not knowing

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if you want a new kitchen knife or a whole new kitchen.

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The presenters liked to get involved,

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and it suited us to get involved too,

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and a very young Noel, I have to add,

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was seen sipping champagne in there with a very lovely young lady.

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But what you really need is one of these.

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A California-style whirlpool Jacuzzi bath.

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Invigorating, refreshing, guaranteed to get you perked up

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and speed up your metabolism in the morning.

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All for a mere £2,200.

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And if you happen to know one of the salesmen,

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there are some optional extras available

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that really do make it an ideal home.

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Cheers.

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Noel Thompson, God bless him,

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sitting there with his glass of champagne, it was just so...

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And this girl, this model, in the corner,

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who obviously wasn't allowed to speak.

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It's a tough job, but somebody's got to do it sometime,

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and yeah, there's all sorts of antics like that.

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It's all about generating publicity from our point of view,

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and that's what made the whole industry fun.

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And, as if finding BBC presenters in your hot tub wasn't enough,

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the best was still to come.

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For sitting at the heart of the King's Hall complex

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was the last word in luxury living,

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the must-see legendary show house.

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The show house was the focal part of the exhibition.

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We realised that you just don't put a little,

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maybe 1050-square-foot bungalow in the middle.

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This has got to create the wow factor.

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The difficulty each year

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was to go better than the previous year,

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and you can never go better, you have to go different.

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If it's ultra-modern one year, you go very traditional the next year,

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and vice versa. You just keep creating a difference,

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and hope that difference is enough

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to create the perception it's better than the previous year.

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However, as tastes changed,

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and new generations of house-owners

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found faster ways to create their ideal homes,

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there was no longer the same need for the annual exhibition.

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Consumers became more discerning.

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You had the emergence of shopping centres,

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you had the emergence of the retail parks.

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I think the internet's made everything instant.

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There's nothing new anymore,

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whereas the Ideal Home Exhibition was somewhere you could have gone

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and got something innovative, taken it home, shown it to your friends.

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Now it's like, "Whatever. I've seen that."

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To a generation, or to generations that perhaps aren't around any more,

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the loss of it would have been quite massive to them.

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To younger generations,

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they don't even notice its existence having gone now.

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What is also gone, and totally unknown to the younger generations,

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is the Northern Ireland that Richard Dimblebly explored in the 1950s.

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This is a forgotten portrait of our home

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that now only exists on film.

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When you look at the Dimbleby film made in 1954,

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that's the parents or grandparents

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or great-grandparents of most people.

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They're simple and they're rural and they're deferential

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and they're old-fashioned and they're hard-working,

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and that's what we've all come out of.

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'And that was the end of my Ulster journey.'

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-Well, Richard, are you any wiser for your rambling?

-I am that.

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It's like a time capsule.

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It takes you back to the sort of feelings people had,

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and the way they talked.

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Looking back at any films of that kind,

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I think the real benefit of looking back is hearing those voices,

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what I like to call those echoes of the sacred

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that are passed down, even though you might not know who said them,

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you know what was said.

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The story of our homes,

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whether in the country,

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town or city,

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is also the story of how we used to live.

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And thanks to a rich archive and the magic of film,

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we can bring those bygone days back to life.

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