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For more than half a century, the BBC have captured | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
the changing face of everyday life in Northern Ireland. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
It all seems so innocent today, but without these moments, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
something of who we are now would be lost forever. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:23 | |
These are the archives | 0:00:23 | 0:00:24 | |
and Those Were The Days... | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
With film archive, | 0:00:29 | 0:00:30 | |
it's important to preserve it in and of itself - | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
a picture, a snapshot of how we were then. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
It makes the past live. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
It brings it to life | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
and makes sense of it for us. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:41 | |
CHILDREN CHEER | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
It is easy to look back on a nation by simply looking at news footage, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
but I think the best way to find out what things were really like is to talk to ordinary people. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:52 | |
You cannot beat a person on the street telling you, "Yeah, this is what it is like to be alive. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:59 | |
"This is what I do when I go home." | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
And although there is a place for the footage of the big news incidents of that day, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
you can't beat somebody just telling the way it was, because, you know what, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
that is the way it was. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
In the 1950s, flying from | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
Aldergrove Airport meant dressing for the occasion. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
# Come fly with me, let's fly | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
# Let's fly away... # | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
This stylish runway | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
showcased a new generation of jet-setters, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
blissfully unencumbered by baggage restrictions | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
and upgrades for in-flight meals. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
# Let's fly Let's fly away... # | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
For these passengers, the novelty of airline food | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
and dreams of far-off destinations | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
represented the very height of sophistication. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
# In llama land there's a one-man band... # | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
'I remember my mother and father going to Nutts Corner, to fly to,' | 0:01:55 | 0:02:01 | |
must have been, London, I think, from there. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
And I just couldn't comprehend how far away London was, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
because the furthest I had been at that time was probably Bangor, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
which was a long trip, to me. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
So anything beyond that, I couldn't actually comprehend. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
# Oh, they say | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
# Come fly with me, let's fly, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
# Let's fly... # | 0:02:23 | 0:02:24 | |
# Pack up, let's fly away! # | 0:02:26 | 0:02:32 | |
Now, horizons have expanded and people talk quite nonchalantly | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
about heading towards the Caribbean | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
or heading off to Scandinavia or whatever, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
as though it was just an everyday occurence. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
And one destination, in particular, was enticing a new wave of ex-pats. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:55 | |
Trans-Atlantic flights had brought | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
the fast-paced North American continent even closer. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
For many Northern Irish people, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
the lure of a better life in Toronto, Canada, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
was too tempting to turn down, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
as this 1968 documentary revealed. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
The piece of film, A New City, 1968, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
was absolutely fascinating, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
because, in a way, Toronto is a very, very new city. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
150 years ago...certainly 200 years ago, there was nothing there. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
# Give me some lovin'... # | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
TV: 'And it is to this city, over the last 100 years or so, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
'that thousands upon thousands | 0:03:32 | 0:03:33 | |
'of Ulster men and woman have come to make their homes.' | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
The relationship between Ulster and Toronto is very strong. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
In recent history, in the 20th century, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
there was some large-scale emigration from Ulster to Canada. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
I live in Tyrone and it always interests me the number of people | 0:03:46 | 0:03:51 | |
who had relatives who lived in Toronto. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
And so to see this film was really, really interesting. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
It was a cleverly put together piece of filming, as well, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
because it showed you people from across all the classes and all the age groups. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
# It's been a hard day... # | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
And one of those people was Dave Beatty, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
a Banbridge man who embraced | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
the locals' love of all things automobile. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
Now a suited and booted car salesman, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
Dave had also acquired a new lingo. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
It drives as high as 30,000 miles a year... | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
The first thing that | 0:04:26 | 0:04:27 | |
I noticed about Dave Beatty was the accent. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
CANADIAN TWANG: For instance, when I came to this country, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
I didn't have the cash to buy, say, a television. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
I bought it on terms. That's a small item, really, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:42 | |
and you put one third down | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
and you off pay the balance over, say, 12 months. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
His absolute wonderment at hire purchase was a joy to behold. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:53 | |
He said when he went at first, he had been able to buy a TV and paid it off over 12 months. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
Then he got a suite. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
So you buy a suite of furniture, which is more money. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
You pay that off, your credit rating becomes good, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
you can buy a car, then you buy a house. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
He clearly was | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
someone who had assimilated himself entirely into Toronto society. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
Another ex-pat profiled was Constable Everett Douglas, from Limavady, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:21 | |
who had joined the Toronto Police Force in the 1950s. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
Unlike his contemporary, Everett had retained the local vernacular, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:29 | |
as he patrolled his new city's streets. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
It depends what age they come out. If they come young... | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
'Everett Douglas was a fascinating figure.' | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
I was very drawn to his accent. I never really got beyond that, | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
because he sounded like he was driving around Limavady or something. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
I just talk into this, almost like a tape recorder, at headquarters. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:52 | |
And they will type them out. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:53 | |
'He talked about Ulster as being a very quiet place, compared to Toronto. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
'You can understand that.' | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
He emigrated in the 1950s and he is talking about a time | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
just before the start of The Troubles. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
As we all know, the place got very, very busy after that. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
Belfast is quiet compared to Toronto. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
You don't get the same amount of domestics or crime, particularly, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
indictable offences, as you would down here. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
'We know that, even in the height of The Troubles,' | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
what you might call traditional crime and how you define crime, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
there wasn't very much of it going on. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
Maybe because there was a lot of the other stuff going on, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
but he's right, in that sense. What I liked about him was he'd kept the accent | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
and he was still very much connected, in that way. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
I did wonder if there is a class thing going on there. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
The other people we see are quite middle class in their aspirations | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
and so on, but he is still a working-class man. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
TV: 'John Cross, an accountant, and his wife, Daisy...' | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
Leaving home may have seemed a journey too far for some, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
but for the Cross family, from Belfast, settling in Canada | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
meant acclimatising to the harsh winters. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
And when summer came, the Cross's escaped the big city, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:15 | |
in search of downtime at the country retreat. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
MR CROSS: Our cottage, from here right to the cottage door, | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
is about 80 miles. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
We can go up... Oh, I've timed it - an hour and 20 minutes, it takes us. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
'The cottage is representative of' | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
the kind of goals to which you can aspire. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:40 | |
MRS CROSS: And, of course, you just live for Friday afternoon, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
to get the gear in the car and head for the summer cottage. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
'I think anyone seeing that in Northern Ireland' | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
would have been very jealous of the lifestyle that this couple | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
appeared to have. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:54 | |
Their general lifestyle - you saw them having a barbeque - | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
and the size of the steaks | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
and they painted a picture of a very affluent kind of lifestyle. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
And it wasn't just the steaks that were supersized, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
as fellow Belfast emigrant, Anne O'Donnell discovered, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
when she shopped in Toronto's majestic, modern superstores. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
But when it came to convenience and choice, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
Anne still harboured halcyon memories of home. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
# To show, to show you what... # | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
Clothes are much more expensive over here. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
I honestly don't think that they are as well finished as they are at home. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
'She was continually smoking, you could see the smoke,' | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
and she looked like a dark-haired Dusty Springfield, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
but she could not get away from her roots, and so she would | 0:08:42 | 0:08:47 | |
talk about how this was a very modern city and had good opportunities, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
but she shopped in Eaton's. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:51 | |
The two main stores are right down in the centre of town. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:56 | |
They are Simpson's and Eaton's. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
Eaton's, of course, is an old Northern Irish family, | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
from Ballymena, and they... It's a very, very big store. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
'Eaton's was an absolute institution' | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
in Canada and, of course, there is a local connection, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
because Timothy Eaton came from just outside Ballymena. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
One of the things they would do is bring turf from Northern Ireland | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
to Canada and they would include a piece of turf in these Christmas hampers, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:27 | |
so you could put it on your open fire and you could smell the smells of Ulster. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:32 | |
'Toronto is seen as being a highly-modern city. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
'However, a city that was like Belfast.' | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
This is what we could be in the future if we would just get our act together. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
This is where we are going. We can be the Toronto of Northern Ireland. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
I think that connection was being made. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
# Don't it always seem to go | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
# That you don't know what you've got till it's gone... # | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
'When I first watched the film, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:01 | |
'thinking about what people from here' | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
would get from it. I would say, a great sense of envy, a great sense of jealousy, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:08 | |
thinking, "I want some of that, too! I want to be there." | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
Back home, Aldergrove Airport aided the annual exodus, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
as sunseekers sought respite from the gathering storm. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
The Troubles were taking hold | 0:10:25 | 0:10:26 | |
and dreams of a bright new metropolis had failed to take off. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
But while the city had a long way to go, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
increased air links between Northern Ireland and Toronto | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
saw the arrival of a giant of the skies. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
TV: Canada seems set to become big business for Ulster tour operators. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
To cope with expanding demand, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
Aer Lingus's only jumbo jet in its own service has been chartered... | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
It was the one and only jumbo jet | 0:10:50 | 0:10:51 | |
ever to land in Aldergrove and take off again. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
It was a really big thing in Belfast at the time, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
because everybody that was on that flight | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
all had some sort of relative in Canada. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
The Atkinson family are going to North America for the first time in 15 years. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:09 | |
'I just remember us all going on the plane, and the family. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
'And I was quite' | 0:11:12 | 0:11:13 | |
surprised when I seen myself on this film, after all them years. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:18 | |
I like Northern Ireland and I can't see me going back to the States to live. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:23 | |
'He never got a word in. I was doing all the talking on the film!' | 0:11:23 | 0:11:28 | |
I must say, it didn't sound too bad! | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
-I would prefer our way of bringing up a family. -Why? | 0:11:31 | 0:11:36 | |
I don't know, I can't really give you a definite answer... | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
'Well, I basically thought it was a better place to be,' | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
rearing a family here, than America. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:50 | |
'To me, it was safer and you were in the country and they were | 0:11:50 | 0:11:56 | |
'running about and they could play.' | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
I know travel is good, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:00 | |
but as I say, I would still favour Northern Ireland | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
over these other countries, so I would. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
# That's the way, uh-huh, uh-huh | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
# I like it, uh-huh, uh-huh | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
# That's the way, uh-huh, uh-huh | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
# I like it, uh-huh, uh-huh | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
# That's the way... # | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
'We actually spent three days in Toronto and, as I say, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
it had a massive connection from the Northern Ireland people there in Toronto. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:25 | |
The Canadian National Tower is a monument to a new attempt | 0:12:28 | 0:12:33 | |
to forge a new sense of Canadian national unity. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
'In the 1970s, there arose' | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
this great structure in downtown Toronto called the CN Tower. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
# That's the way, uh-huh, uh-huh I like it... # | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
It's right across the lake from the United States. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
You can imagine that it is, sort of, throwing up a finger, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
in a very interesting gesture, to the United States, saying, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
"Look what we can achieve." | 0:12:56 | 0:12:57 | |
# Hey | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
# Hey... # | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
It was like something | 0:13:02 | 0:13:03 | |
from another world, when you got on that lift and went up | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
and seen it. It was really magic, so it was. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
At that time, they made it look like something from outer space. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:14 | |
I'd never seen anything like that. It was amazing. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
# I like it, uh-huh, uh-huh | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
# That's the way, un-huh, uh-huh... # | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
This archive reminded me very much of who I was in the 1960s and '70s. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:27 | |
I certainly recognise a lot of the buildings and a lot of the places. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:32 | |
For me, it made me very proud to be Canadian. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
From the skyscrapers of Canada's urban sprawl | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
to the mountains of Northern Iran. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
In 1978, the BBC embarked on | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
on a 3,000-mile coach trip, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
with a group of altogether more adventurous travellers. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
# On the first part of the journey | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
# I was looking at all the lights... # | 0:13:56 | 0:14:01 | |
On board were 21 mountaineers, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
eager to explore this little-known outpost. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
Among them, a nun, a lawyer, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
a BBC television presenter | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
and a 19-year-old health worker | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
from Castlewellan, Mary Hawkins. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
'I had never been in the Middle East before' | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
and I just thought of Iran as being just so exotic. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:30 | |
# In the desert you can remember your name | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
# Cos there ain't no-one for to give you no name... # | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
Joining Mary on this journey of a lifetime was her father, Teddy Hawkins, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
himself an experienced climber from the Mournes. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
'I had already been' | 0:14:50 | 0:14:51 | |
in Afghanistan and I had been in the Pyrenees | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
and I had been climbing in France, so this was | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
a different part of the world and I think that is the exciting part of it for any mountaineer. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:02 | |
But even the most rocksteady climber had to be daunted by the challenge ahead. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:15 | |
This remote mountain range had remained largely unexplored | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
and essentially isolated from the rest of the world. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
In terms of its general location, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
it was certainly well away from civilisation. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
What happens if somebody breaks a leg, somebody takes seriously ill? | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
How quickly can you get professional aid? | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
You're talking four or five days. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
So, it's not just a matter of phoning 999 and getting help. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
It wasn't like in the Mournes, where if something goes wrong, you call mountain rescue. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
If something goes wrong out there, you have to carry the person out. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
Goodbye. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
Despite the lack of multi-lingual tourist guides, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
an advance party has reached the valley chosen for base camp. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
Jeremy Paxman was with us, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
and I suspect that Jeremy, being a very ambitious lad, was a bit miffed | 0:16:08 | 0:16:14 | |
at being sent off with a group of mountaineers from Northern Ireland. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:20 | |
Compared to what was going on in Belfast at the time, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
it mustn't have seemed exciting. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:24 | |
From the relative comfort of base camp, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
Paxman and his fellow trekkers split into smaller exploring parties. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:37 | |
And, for one such group, ahead lay a gruelling five-day trek | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
in search of the mythical, unchartered Valley of the Assassins. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:47 | |
Nowadays, you could actually go onto Google Earth | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
and you could get much, much more detailed maps of Iran | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
and the Alborz mountains than we had access to at that time. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
The maps that we had were terrible. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
I think we'll have to go... I'm not quite sure. We'll have to go down and see. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
'We had to piece together a map for ourselves. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
'Whenever we were out in the mountains, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
'we had to do reconnaissance trips | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
'and try to map out what looked like the route | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
'to the Valley of the Assassins.' | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
I think that's actually the head of the Assassins Valley that we can see, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
just straight through there, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:23 | |
but we're not quite sure till we get there. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
'Although we could see down the Valley of the Assassins, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
'we could see the first castle or habitation, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
'the scale of the place was much bigger than what we had anticipated.' | 0:17:31 | 0:17:36 | |
As one group grappled with the valley, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
a world away from the Mournes, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
another was tackling Iran's second-highest peak. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
At 800 metres, the granite north face of Alam-Kuh | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
is one of Asia's most-treacherous ascents. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
Do you as a group feel yourselves different | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
to the rest of the expedition? | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
We just feel different. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
We just feel we have been given a particular job to do. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
Rock climbing is very much a competition | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
between you and the rock. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
"That's a piece of rock there. I wonder, could I find a way up it?" | 0:18:13 | 0:18:18 | |
I think the challenge itself overcomes the fear. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
There's a lot of exhilaration involved in this as well, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
and perhaps what's not coming across very well is that fear | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
is part of the exhilaration. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
We knew it was going to be quite a difficult climb. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
We knew, by the look of it, at some parts it was overhanging, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
that is wasn't just a straightforward face. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
So there was about nine of us getting up at four in the morning, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:44 | |
get to the bottom of it and just start heading for it. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
# If I leave here tomorrow... # | 0:18:47 | 0:18:52 | |
Every step of the way, you're concentrating, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
and it's natural stress, it grows on you. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
When the two of us got to the top, it was coming up to nightfall. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:04 | |
We had set out to do a short climb, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
and we finished up climbing to the top of the mountain. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
# There's too many places I've got to see... # | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
When we were approaching the top, it was getting dark. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
We ran into a few problems, getting up, finding which way to go and how to get up it. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
And then we finished up on this charcoal rock. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
There was nothing to hold onto, there was nothing to anchor to. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:30 | |
It was just faith and a prayer to keep going, get up, | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
there was no turning back. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
# Cos I'm as free as a bird now... # | 0:19:34 | 0:19:42 | |
I've seen people that got to the top of their first climb, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
and they're just bursting with joy. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
It's a terrific feeling, to have conquered, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
especially someone young, getting to the top of something like that. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
It's something that you will always look back on. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
I was a lucky individual to have the opportunity to take part | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
in something like that, and it went well, so that's more of a bonus. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:08 | |
It's a great euphoria to realise that you have climbed a new route, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:15 | |
and so on, and of course, because it was 12th July, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
they called it the Ulster Route. Why not? | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
After a month exploring Iran, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
this eclectic mix of climbers had formed an enduring bond. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
And making that journey from 1970s Northern Ireland to a country | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
on the cusp of revolution had inspired camaraderie | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
and ensured lifelong friendships. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
When you think of Northern Ireland in the 1970s, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
and that we had a couple of students, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
a social worker, we had two doctors, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
we had a QC who was top of the line at that particular time | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
and a policeman, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
in 1978, to me, that was the most astounding thing about it. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:02 | |
People that were in it, I know that I could walk into their houses | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
any day of the week, and nothing's changed. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
I just feel very lucky I was selected to go on it. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:17 | |
It's just one of those occasions that stay with you forever. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
I'm envious of that younger me, in a way. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
I'm envious that I got the chance to do that, and I wish I'd done more. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
It was a very special time, with a very special group of people. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
In the 1980s, travel for many young people meant a passport | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
out of Northern Ireland and into the world of working holidays. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
This was the gap-year generation of jetsetters, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
and BBC Northern Ireland was on the trail. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
The idea was no more complicated than saying, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
"If you want to go off and work this summer, here's what it's about, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
"these are the things to think about." | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
This is pre-internet, pre-everything. We're still in the land of leaflets. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
The purpose of the programme was really to say, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
"Let's go and have a look for ourselves." | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
Hello, and welcome to Working Holiday, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
live from Broadcasting House here in Belfast. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
There were some depressing things going on in the town around then, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
in and around Belfast, and you thought, "It's time to get out," | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
and a lot of the young people I dealt with said, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
"I want to try something different." And if you're young, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
you've got to make it happen cheap, so a lot of guys were going, | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
"Where can we go?" | 0:22:45 | 0:22:46 | |
"You can go to Israel on something called a kibbutz." | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
And we're going, "What the hell is a kibbutz?" | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
We sent somebody out to go to a kibbutz, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
and when you look back at the film, | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
everybody that worked on these places looked like | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
mini David Hasselhoffs. They were all walking around | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
with very dodgy curly perms. These are the blokes. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
And very tight shorts that shouldn't have been allowed. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
That was the '80s! | 0:23:09 | 0:23:10 | |
I also remember, we interviewed this girl, but she kept saying, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
"It's great to go and get a life experience | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
"that you can't get in Belfast," and she was herding cows. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
It looked like a scene from anywhere in Northern Ireland! I'm thinking, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
"Is that what you do at a kibbutz, work on a farm like anybody else?!" | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
Let's get the ball rolling. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
You're the co-ordinator of Project 67, the organisation responsible | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
for recruiting people to go to that particular kibbutz. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
'We brought a guy in to plug kibbutz, and his name was Efrim.' | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
Talk about a guy trying to sell the kibbutz to you, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
he was the most bland person I think I've ever interviewed in my life. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
Lovely gentleman, but very straight and very serious. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
It nearly put them off going to the kibbutz. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
What type of people, Efrim, are best suited to working on a kibbutz? | 0:23:52 | 0:23:57 | |
Well, to be between the age of 18 and 32, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:04 | |
healthy and fit, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
almost everyone can do that. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
Healthy and fit rules me out, Efrim, you know that?! | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
We'll go over to our audience now, Efrim. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
'I remember on one of the particular programmes,' | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
Jackie Hamilton actually being the lucky one | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
that got to go to New York City, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
and I remember thinking at the time, "What a fantastic opportunity," | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
because that was as different as it could get. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
I don't know if it's still the same now, but certainly for my generation, America was the holy grail. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:38 | |
And it does take you in. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
The simple things for me were, like, the car horn sounded different. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
He told me it was like going into a cinema, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
going into a television programme, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
steam coming out of the ground, dudes hanging out on the corner, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
traditional New York traffic lights. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
It's like a movie when you walk into that. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
I suppose New York, it's one of those cities that is an iconic city, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:08 | |
it is somewhere that is known for being so magnetic, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
so alive, so vibrant. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
When you saw the presenter in New York, again, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
it was that whole wide-eyed approach, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
"Oh, my God, we're in this massive city, we're not in Belfast anymore!" | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
And that came through | 0:25:24 | 0:25:25 | |
in terms of the presenting style. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
# Living in America... # | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
Here we are in New York. It's fast, and it's a real culture shock. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
I'm telling you, even the car horns sound different. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
If you fancy coming to America during the summer | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
to work and live for a few months, you've got to be very pushy, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
and you've got to be streetwise. If you're not, you soon will be. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
'I think I was being mindful that, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
'if you choose to go to work and not be on holiday,' | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
you've got to know how it works and be up to speed on it, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
cos if you don't, there'll be somebody else in the line | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
who'll come up behind you. So I think that was the intention, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
if you like, of that kind of link. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
It's common knowledge, a lot of Irish people come out here every year | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
to work illegally on their holiday visas. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
The money's good if you can get the work, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
but there are some things to think about. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
I thought it was interesting when Jackie Hamilton spoke | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
to some of the people who were there as illegal workers. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
Is it difficult to get work in New York? | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
It's difficult... | 0:26:25 | 0:26:26 | |
'Suddenly, we were in a bar, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
'talking to some anonymous figure who'd gone the illegal route.' | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
It was quite funny. Again, it was quite... | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
There was something quite innocent about it. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
"Right, here's the proper way to do things, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
"and here's the improper way to do things, | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
"and don't be doing it the bad way!" | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
To put a figure on it, if you work four or five nights a week, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
you can make about 600 or 700. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
They could make, actually, good money. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
I'm sitting there going, "Am I doing the wrong job here?! | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
"Tell me that bit again!" | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
I think when you look back at the people who got an opportunity | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
to travel, it was always to the greater good. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
It was always giving people a different perspective on life. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
# Living in America I feel good! # | 0:27:08 | 0:27:13 | |
We kind of take it for granted now, because travel is relatively cheap, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
but back in those days, that chance to travel and do something like that | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
was a big opportunity, and there was no doubt whatsoever | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
that it was a mind-expanding thing | 0:27:25 | 0:27:26 | |
and probably helped society in Northern Ireland today. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
I think travelling does broaden the mind. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
I think it's good for people to experience different cultures, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
different ways of doing things, different ways of seeing things. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
So in general, for people from Northern Ireland, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
no bad thing to get out and see the world. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
The story of how we travelled | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
and saw the world is also the story of how we used to live. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
And, thanks to our rich archive and the magic of film, | 0:27:56 | 0:28:01 | |
we can still bring those bygone days back to life. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
# Those were the days, my friend | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
# We thought they'd never end | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
# We'd sing and dance forever and a day | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
# We'd live the life we choose | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
# We'd fight and never lose | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
# Those were the days | 0:28:20 | 0:28:21 | |
# Oh, yes, those were the days... # | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
Everyone! | 0:28:23 | 0:28:24 | |
# La, la, la, la, la, la | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
# La, la, la, la, la, la | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
# These are the days | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
# Oh, yes, these are the days. # | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
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