Episode 1 Tim McGarry's Ulster Scots Journey


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As you probably know, people in Northern Ireland tend to take

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the issue of identity quite seriously.

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When I say quite seriously, I mean very, I mean extremely,

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I mean INCREDIBLY seriously.

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In fact, they take the issue of identity so seriously,

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sometimes it's not funny.

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The two main identities in Northern Ireland

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are, of course, British or Irish -

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identities firmly, sometimes aggressively, held.

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Identity is defined at birth and maintained by religion and politics.

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In Northern Ireland, the question, "What are ye?"

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is not an innocent question about your career path

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or indeed your sexuality.

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It is, instead, the query that enables us

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to define each other completely.

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And even if you don't want to take part in this game,

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others will insist on doing it for you.

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You play golf?

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Do you play British or Irish golf?

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Being from Northern Ireland, you have a connection to both.

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You've a connection to Ireland, you've a connection to the UK.

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Whatever decision I make, it's whether that's, you know,

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play for Ireland, play for Britain - not play at all, maybe,

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just because I don't want to upset too many people.

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Honestly, if he didn't earn 31 grand a day from his sponsors alone,

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you'd almost feel sorry for him.

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Maybe identity is not black and white - maybe it's more complicated.

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Perhaps we need to dig deeper to find out who we really are.

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I know all about British and Irish identities

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because, well, they're on the news quite a lot.

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I want to find out about an identity

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about which I know virtually nothing - Ulster Scots.

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You see, I have a theory - Ulster Scots is perceived

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as belonging to just one side of the community,

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and my theory is that most of the perceptions we have

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in Northern Ireland are completely wrong.

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So, I want to find out if there's anything in this Ulster Scots thing

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for me - Tim McGarry, lapsed papist.

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So, I'm going on a journey.

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Why? Well, it's television.

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If you bake a bun or dance on ice for two minutes,

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you have to go on a journey.

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I'll be taking a look at the close historical links

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between Ulster and Scotland.

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I'll dip a toe into the Ulster Scots language.

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And I'll research my own family roots

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to find out if there's any Ulster Scots in me.

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This is Torr Head and over there is Scotland.

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On a good day, you can see them eating porridge

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and deep-frying their Mars bars.

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Now, you can't see England from any part of Ireland,

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but you CAN see Scotland and, if we can see them, they can see us.

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For many centuries, long before the first plantation in the 1600s,

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there was a very close connection between Ulster and Scotland.

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Indeed, it is believed that the very first settlers

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who ever came to Ireland came via Scotland

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during the Mesolithic period during the ice age.

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They came via the landmass caused by the ice

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and settled in Ireland around about 8000 BC.

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And where did they first decide to settle?

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Where else would you go...

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but Larne?

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I'm not going to slag off Larne.

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I like Larne.

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One year, I actually switched on the Christmas tree lights.

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Well, I say lights...

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But why did the first settlers to come here head straight to Larne?

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People came because it had a good natural resource of flint.

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What is so important about flint?

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Flint is a really important piece of stone

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that can be used to make tools.

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An essential bit of tool, a knife or a blade. A knife?

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For slicing things. You could slice your bread with that!

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Yeah, it feels quite sharp still.

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It is. It's quite tough, isn't it? It is.

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Cos they didn't have steel in those days. No.

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It was called the Stone Age cos everything was made of stone.

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And this gave a name to a type of stone?

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Is Larnian...? The age is Larnian. The age. Yeah, so a period of time.

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Larne, you've got a whole age named after you - what more do you want?

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We don't know much about pre-Christian Ireland

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because, well, people didn't write much down in those days,

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and the Romans, who did write stuff down,

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didn't want anything to do with us.

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Ireland was the only part of Western Europe

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that the Romans didn't invade and occupy,

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though they did give Ireland its ancient name, Hibernia,

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land of winter,

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which suggests that the Romans did make it here,

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but made the mistake of landing in Portrush in July.

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In the first century AD,

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the Roman commander Agricola contemplated invading Ireland.

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He probably looked out from over there and went,

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"I can take this place."

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In fact, he calculated it would only take one legion to conquer Ireland.

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But then, for some reason, he thought better of it.

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I reckon he probably looked over and saw us fighting over a flag

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and said, "No, tell you what, just leave it."

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There's never been a series of Who Do You Think You Are?

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done in Northern Ireland. That's because here it would have to be...

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IN BELFAST ACCENT: Who Do Ye Think Ye Are?

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Or else, Think Ye Are Something, Do Ye?

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Yes, that's the typical Northern Ireland sceptical attitude.

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But it is always worthwhile looking into your family roots.

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You never know what you'll find.

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And if you do want to research your family background,

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the place you have to go is the Ulster Historical Foundation.

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And that's where I'm going right now.

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Well, five minutes' time.

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Ten minutes, tops.

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So, Tim McGarry's Ulster Scots Journey -

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could I, Tim McGarry, be an Ulster Scot?

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Well, I know I have a lot of relatives up in Rasharkin

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and they sound like Ulster Scots.

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But I've come to the Ulster Historical Foundation and Gillian's

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very kindly helping to look into my roots to see how far I go back.

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Now, the only relations I really know

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go back as far as my great-grandfather,

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who came from Rasharkin.

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I think you've told me that his name is Patrick McGarry. Mm.

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That's about as much as I know. Have you found anything else?

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Yes, we've found Patrick and his wife and family

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living in Rasharkin 100 years ago

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in the 1901 and 1911 census.

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So, they were both schoolteachers at that stage. Schoolteachers?!

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Oh, how boring.

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Nothing more exciting? Well, we'll see!

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They were both living in Rasharkin at that stage,

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but the census tells us that actually Patrick's wife Mary

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came from County Down. And that would have been quite common -

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if you were a schoolteacher,

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you did move about the country quite a lot for work.

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And then we were able to find a copy of their marriage record.

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So, what was her maiden name?

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So, she was Mary Anne Clelland when she married in 1888.

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Is Clelland a significant name in any way? It's a Scottish name.

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So, we've only gone back a few generations

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and it looks like I could have Ulster Scots roots,

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or Ulster Scots connections.

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Thank God for that, otherwise the programme would've been ruined.

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We started looking for any Mary Anne Clellands we could find

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whose father was called James in that period in County Down.

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We knew she was 22 when she married in 1888,

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so we knew she was born around 1866.

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We found this birth certificate.

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So, this is Mary Anne, and she's born on 18th November 1865,

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in Nuns Quarter, a townland called Nuns Quarter.

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Nuns Quarter? How ironic.

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She was very Catholic, a very religious woman!

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Nuns Quarter is where?

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It's on the Ards Peninsula, just north of Kircubbin.

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You've Nuns Quarter and beside it, Inishargy.

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So, my great-great-grandmother came from here, Nuns Quarter.

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Now, I'm not sure if she came from downtown Nuns Quarter or

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the lower east side of Nuns Quarter.

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You know, the bad side of town.

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Well, I say town...

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So, after the Romans decided not to invade Ireland,

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the Irish decided to invade bits of Scotland.

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In fact, that is where the name Scotland comes from.

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Scoti was the name Roman writers gave to Irish raiders and bandits

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who attacked Roman Britain, and the name stuck.

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So, Scotland was named after a bunch of Irish people.

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For centuries, there's been a very close connection

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between Scotland and Ulster.

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For hundreds and hundreds of years, there'd been invasion,

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counter invasion, raids, immigration, emigration

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intermarriage, settlements.

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One man has a theory about one emigrant from Scotland to Ireland.

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There are a number of ancient churches in Scotland

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which claim to have been founded by Patrick.

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So, St Patrick came from Scotland to Donaghadee?

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I know some folk in Donaghadee today

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who could take you down there at low tide

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and show you a rock which, tradition claims,

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bears the marks of his feet and also of his horses' hooves.

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Forget New York, we could have the massive St Patrick's Day parade

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here in Donaghadee.

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Why not? I think that would work.

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St Patrick, Scottish? Pah.

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I suppose it could have been worse - he could have been English.

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Of course, the influence of St Patrick can't be underestimated.

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Within a few decades, all of Ireland had been converted to Christianity

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and shortly afterwards, monasteries and abbeys were founded

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all over the country

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and became centres of great learning in Dark Ages Europe.

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Did you know that Bangor Abbey, for instance,

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was known as The Light of the World?

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And, yes, I do mean Pickie Pool, gravy-chip Bangor.

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And then there's this famous abbey at Nendrum, just outside Comber.

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It's a fine example of what these abbeys and monasteries

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would have looked like.

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Nendrum has the oldest tide mill in the world.

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And it also has this - a very famous sundial,

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which the monks were able to use once, sometimes twice a year.

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So, we gave the Scots their name and they gave us St Patrick.

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But that's not all.

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Because it is accepted that the very first King of Scotland

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was a man by the name of Fergus Mor, or Fergus the Great.

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And where was he from?

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Here - County Antrim, Dunseverick,

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just a couple of miles down from the Giant's Causeway.

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And in the fifth century AD,

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Fergus the Great led an expedition to Scotland to Kintyre and Argyll,

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and there he set up the great Scottish kingdom of Dalriada.

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King Fergus was crowned the king of a joint kingdom

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in the early sixth century.

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He goes across from Dunseverick, he goes to Dun Athad,

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he takes some of his family with him,

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he probably takes some retainers with him,

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but what he doesn't take with him is an army -

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so he's not going to conquer territory.

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He's going to regularise a settlement that's already there, obviously.

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Nowadays, all kings and queens of Scotland

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have to claim some descent from Fergus the Great.

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Yes, that's right, folks.

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Queen Elizabeth II has a little bit - not very much, to be honest -

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but a little bit of County Antrim in her.

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According to an old Scots chronicle,

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in the year 503 AD, King Fergus had a skin problem.

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Well, they just didn't moisturise in those days!

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Mind you, there isn't a cleanser in the world

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that can save you from leprosy.

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So in order to cure his leprosy,

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King Fergus decided to visit a very famous healing well.

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Sadly, the cure didn't work...

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partly because he didn't get there,

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when his ship hit a rock and he drowned.

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Mind you, it wasn't just any old rock.

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It was the rock upon which Carrickfergus Castle now stands.

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Indeed, Fergus's death gives its name to this very place.

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It is the carraig, or rock, of Fergus.

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Carrickfergus.

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Ladies and gentlemen, this is a television exclusive

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to the Tim McGarry Ulster Scots Journey.

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For the first time ever,

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we are filming the grave of Fergus Mor, the first king of Scotland.

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Yes, his last resting place is around here in a farmer's field

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just outside Monkstown.

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For centuries, Irish and Scots pilgrims came here

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to Monkstown Abbey to pay their last respects to the great Fergus Mor.

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But as you know, times change,

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and the building - well, it's a wee bit neglected now.

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So, if Her Majesty the Queen is watching,

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and I see no reason why she wouldn't be

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once the horse racing's over - Liz, your ancestor is buried round here.

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Please, give us a few quid - we'll put a sign up, tidy the place up.

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So, the kingdom of Dalriada

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could afford to be pretty smug about itself.

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In the sixth and seventh centuries, the kingdom covered Antrim,

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Down and most of the West of Scotland.

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And why was it so successful?

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Well, because of the quick and easy sea transport.

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Of course, there's always a downside.

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And the downside to quick and easy sea transport was -

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well, the Vikings.

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Now, the Vikings don't have a great image.

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They're always seen as marauders and pillagers,

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only interested in plunder -

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a bit like modern day bankers.

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So, when they came to Ireland, well, they did destroy a bit.

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They destroyed Bangor, and the monastery here at Nendrum.

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I mean, just look what they did to that round tower there.

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The Vikings spelled the end of Dalriada

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but like all invaders, they liked the look of the place,

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so they intermingled with the Irish, intermarried and settled.

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So did the next lot, but who were they?

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MUSIC: "Swords Of The Thousand Men" by Tenpole Tudor

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The next invaders of Ireland didn't come via Scotland.

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They were the Normans.

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The Normans first arrived in Ireland in the year 1169

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after they were invited in.

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Sure, you know what it is like - invite somebody into your house,

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they never go home.

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The Normans first landed in southern Ireland but one band of them,

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led by John de Courcy, headed north to see what was available.

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# Hurrah, hurrah, hurrah, yeah

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# Over the hills came the swords of a thousand men... #

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Actually, he didn't have a thousand men, he only had a few dozen,

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but that was enough to take Ulster.

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And to prove he was not a man to be messed with,

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he built this - Carrickfergus Castle.

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Nothing like that had ever been seen at the time.

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The walls are 90 feet high,

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they are three to four feet thick.

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It's a statement of power,

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a statement of status,

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a statement that the Normans are here to come.

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Carrickfergus was the centre of the area

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that the Normans conquered in Ulster.

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It looked like the Normans were going to be able to conquer

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all of Ireland fairly easily, but one thing stood in their way.

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What was it? You've guessed it, the Scots.

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Have you seen the film Braveheart?

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Mel Gibson as William Wallace,

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leading the first Scottish rebellion against the English.

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I really like it. One reviewer didn't like it.

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the very famous Robert the Bruce.

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And when Robert the Bruce fought the English, he had his ups and downs.

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and where did he end up?

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We all know the story of the cave and the spider.

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Just across the narrow water in Ulster was an English garrison,

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so Robert the Bruce sent his brother Edward over to deal with them.

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who had fought at Bannockburn and then put Carrickfergus,

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which was the main castle in Ulster, under siege in September 1315.

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In the summer of 1316, it looked like the garrison was going to surrender

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and 30 Scottish soldiers came to take the surrender of the castle.

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And, instead, the garrison grabbed them,

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closed the gates again and said they were going to fight on.

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And it is said that as the food ran out and as the water ran out,

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they actually ate their 30 Scottish prisoners.

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Now, whether that is fact or legend, we don't know.

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Edward Bruce was eventually defeated in the year 1318

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in a battle outside Dundalk.

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They say his body

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is buried in a church there.

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Well, bits of it may be,

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because he was beheaded

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and bits of him were sent to the four corners of Ireland.

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But the effect of Bruce's invasion of Ireland cannot be overestimated.

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After that, British rule in Ireland was shattered.

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And it would take a long, long time

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before they ever dominated Ireland again.

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MUSIC: "The Ocean" by Led Zeppelin

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Dunluce Castle - famous for being on the cover of a Led Zeppelin album.

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Ask your da, he'll explain it to you. Where were we?

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Ah, yes - the Scots saved the Irish from the English -

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for a bit.

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Now, despite what Mel Gibson says, I'm afraid it's not true -

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not all Scots were on the side of Robert the Bruce,

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some of them lined up with the English.

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And Bruce wanted a word with them,

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and they didn't fancy having a word with him

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so they fled to the Glens of Antrim.

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The MacDonnells are probably the most famous family.

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They seized lands in the Glens and their capital was Dunluce.

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The problem with the MacDonnells

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was that they were Scottish and Catholic,

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which didn't please Queen Elizabeth I,

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who was Protestant and English

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and who saw this place and everyone in it as an affront to her kingdom.

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So when an English expedition, including Sir Francis Drake,

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massacred a lot of MacDonnells, including women and children,

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on Rathlin Island here, the Queen was very pleased.

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Even more pleased was the Earl of Essex,

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who reported delightedly that they had killed over 600 people -

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and even better, according to him,

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Sorley Boy MacDonnell had to watch the massacre

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helplessly from the coast,

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perhaps even here, where I am standing.

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Essex reported that Sorley Boy must have been...

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The Queen was so pleased that she told the executioner she would...

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Probably gave him an OBE.

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And then we found that her mum's mother's name was Jane McClelland.

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And he was an assistant farmer -

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so it all ties in with the information we have

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from her marriage. An assistant farmer?

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An assistant farmer, yes. A farmer with an assistant?!

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I have never heard of an assistant farmer. That's fine, OK.

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Is there anything else significant about this?

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The only thing is that his residence was different

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to where the child was born. And then we looked a little bit more

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to try and find the marriage record of her parents,

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and we did not find any marriage record for that couple.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa!

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Are you saying my great-great-grandfather

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and my great-great-grandmother weren't married?

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It certainly looks that way, yes. Really?!

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Excuse me, my great-grandmother was a very highly respected woman

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in Rasharkin, and a schoolteacher. She was indeed.

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But she was actually (illegitimate)? Yes, it would appear so.

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We find a marriage record in 1869 for a James Clelland from Inishargy,

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a farmer, marrying a Margaret Holland

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in Ballywalter Second Presbyterian Church.

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So he didn't even have the decency to marry her?!

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So...

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My great-great-grandmother, possibly illegitimate,

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and the father...didn't marry her?

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He married someone else? No, he...

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It appears that he then married someone else a few years later

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and then the mother, Jane McClelland,

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she marries in 1873 in Greyabbey Roman Catholic Church.

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Right... Hold on.

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Again, he got married in a Presbyterian church?

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Yes. But she's Catholic?

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Well, she married in a Roman Catholic Church,

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so it would appear that she was.

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This is cross-community smut!

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I'm actually genuinely surprised about the revelations

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about my great-great-grandmother and father

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and I'm a little bit pleased, to be honest.

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Yes, I am at least a bit Ulster Scot, and a wee bit cross-community.

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I could probably get my own EU peace grant just for myself.

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And, yes, my great-great-grandmother went a few miles up the road

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to get a man. She didn't go very far -

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But to be fair, though, she was very brave.

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To have an illegitimate child and not get married in 1865?

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She must have been the talk of the town.

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Well, I say town...

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Chichester Street. Named after Arthur Chichester.

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Well, "Who the hell is he,

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"and why does he have a street named after him?" I hear you ask.

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Well, he was a favourite general of Queen Elizabeth I.

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The Queen was determined to conquer all of Ireland

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but Ulster held out against her.

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In 1594, the famous Gaelic chieftain Hugh O'Neill rose up in rebellion,

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starting what was known as the Nine Years War.

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The war ended in defeat for the Gaelic chieftains

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and, as a reward to Arthur Chichester,

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the Queen gave him a castle

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and ownership of what we now know as Belfast.

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So, Arthur naturally started to name streets after himself.

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Well, you would, wouldn't you? So, this is Chichester Street.

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HORNS HONK

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It didn't have as many bus lanes in them days.

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Arthur Chichester would have been one of the most important people

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at the end of the 16th and early 17th century.

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There's a bloke kneeling at the bottom. Who is that guy?

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That's Sir John Chichester,

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and he was governor of Carrickfergus in the late 1590s.

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He is Arthur's big brother? Arthur's big brother.

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John Chichester had a parley with James McDonnell,

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but instead of bringing small numbers and sitting down

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and talking sensibly, both brought hundreds of men

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and a battle broke out. John Chichester was killed,

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he was decapitated,

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and it is said that his head was put in a barrel of salt

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and brought down to Dungannon, where Hugh O'Neill's base was

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and that the Irish played football with his head around the camp.

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That's not nice! So, Arthur was very annoyed about that?

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He did bear a grudge - and a year and a bit after John was killed

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he became governor of Carrickfergus himself, in 1599.

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He was one of Elizabeth's top generals,

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fighting the O'Neills and the MacDonnells as well.

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The MacDonnells managed to survive,

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and when King James came to the throne, they curried favour with him

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by settling more lowland Scots here in the Glens of Antrim.

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Indeed, Ulster was the last place in Ireland

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to resist the English conquest.

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The last hooray for the Gaelic chiefs was the Battle of Kinsale

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in 1601 and then, of course, the famous Flight of the Earls of 1607.

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Now, many people think that the first major migration

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of Scots into Ulster occurred with the Great Plantation.

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But, as we have seen, Scots have been coming to Ulster

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for hundreds and hundreds of years -

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and, indeed, before the Great Plantation

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there was one other major migration of lowland Scots into Ulster.

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That occurred in 1606, and it all began with a jailbreak

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and some cheese.

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The man who escaped was called Conn O'Neill.

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Who he? I hear you cry.

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Well, Conn was the head of the Clandeboye O'Neills,

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the Gaelic chieftain who owned South Antrim and most of North Down.

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For years, the English crown had been trying

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to relieve Conn of his lands.

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And in the year 1602 they got their chance.

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What happened was Conn threw a Christmas party.

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Nothing unusual there, I hear you say.

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Indeed, by all accounts, it was a jolly good party.

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According to one contemporary record, it was a grand debauch -

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a kind of 17th-century bunga bunga party, but then disaster struck.

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What's the worst thing that could happen at an Irish party?

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Yep. The drink ran out.

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Well, Conn did what any reasonable Irish person would do.

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He sent some of his men to rob the nearest wine store

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in the nearby village of Belfast.

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Unfortunately, on their way, his men encountered some English troops.

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A fight ensued, one of the troops was killed.

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Conn was immediately arrested

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and charged with levying war on the Queen's soldiers.

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High treason.

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Of course, nowadays, high treason has a penalty

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of, well, 100 hours community service.

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But in those days, the penalty was death.

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Arthur Chichester, the Lord Deputy of Ireland,

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very kindly offered to execute Conn

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without the necessity of a trial or anything.

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He was hoping to seize some of Conn's lands.

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Fortunately for Conn,

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Queen Elizabeth I went and died

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without an heir, which meant the end of the Tudor line

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and the accession onto the throne of James I.

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And that was good news, because it gave Conn's wife an idea.

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She approached a man by the name of Hugh Montgomery

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and came with a deal.

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She said, "Spring my husband Conn out of jail,

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"get him a pardon from King James

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"and I will give you half of Conn O'Neill's lands in Ulster."

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There aren't many cheese-based prison escapes.

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I love a good prison escape. Normally it's digging tunnels,

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but there was a man by the name of Conn O'Neill

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managed to escape from prison in Carrickfergus Castle.

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What's the story behind that?

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His wife smuggled in ropes in two cheeses

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and with those ropes he was able to scale the walls of the castle

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and the Montgomerys whisked him off to Scotland.

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But another Ayrshire man, James Hamilton, got wind of the plan

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and he muscled in on the deal.

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Hamilton was sent by the King of Scotland to Dublin.

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He set up a school in Dublin and become a founder of Trinity College,

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but used his position of influence

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to get access to the Royal correspondence.

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So all the mail that was going between Dublin

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and the Royal Court in London, Hamilton was getting access to.

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So he was basically a spy and reading the stuff? He was.

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He was feeding information back to the King of Scotland,

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because the King of Scotland knew the Queen of England had no children

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and suspected he was next in line.

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So he was just gathering information and waiting for the day

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and Hamilton was his man.

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And when the king was asked to authorise the proposed deal

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between O'Neill and Montgomery, Hamilton's man intervened

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and said, "See all that land?

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"You can't divide that in two.

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"Divide it in three and give a third of it to Hamilton."

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The land that they took, what did they find when they got here?

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About 40 years previously, Elizabeth had sent English troops

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across to try to take County Down by force from the Clandeboye O'Neills.

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It didn't work - the O'Neills fought back and fought hard

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and in the course of that they burned all of the stone buildings.

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But who was physically here? Were people ejected?

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Did you steal my land?

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When the Scots arrived,

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there was, the records say, hardly any people here at all.

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Hamilton's headquarters at Killylea seemed to prove to Montgomery

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that he'd been sold a pup,

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and Hamilton had ended up with all the best land.

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Tensions between the two men led to Hamilton hiring a map-maker,

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Thomas Raven, to set out exactly who owned what.

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The beautifully illustrated Raven maps survive today

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and can be seen in North Down Museum.

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Montgomery and Hamilton didn't get on very well, is that right?

0:27:050:27:07

They loathed one another.

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So this map is a way of just determining who owned what land

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and where those boundaries were.

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We are looking here at a map of... it says East Holywood.

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We have somewhere called Balle Derre. We have Knocknagoney up here.

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For some reason the Tesco isn't there, but I don't know why.

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But if you look at Holywood, East Holywood,

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we have what looks to me like the Maypole. It is, indeed.

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So the Maypole does actually date from the 1600s?

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Yes, and possibly before this.

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It just means it was there when they drew this map.

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It doesn't tell us how long it was there beforehand.

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So, if I was to stick this book under my arm and run out there

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and bring it to the Antiques Roadshow,

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what sort of value would we get?

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Priceless. You couldn't put a value on it.

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But we wouldn't let you out the door anyway.

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You'd stop me, would you? Yeah, we'd jump on you.

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There's a fella over there who looks like he would stop me,

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but I'd give you a go!

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So, we've just romped through several thousand years of history

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and discovered how closely our past is linked to that of Scotland.

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And talking of romps,

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we've also learned that no matter how respectable

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you think your family is,

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there's always some dark secret out there to embarrass you.

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Yes, my great-grandparents were teachers.

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The shame!

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I've also discovered Ulster Scots roots that I never knew I had,

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just four generations back.

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On the next programme, we'll be looking at the biggest

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and most controversial influx of Ulster Scots - the Plantation.

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OK, so, I'm just going to go in here and get myself all dolled up.

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'Presenting the forecasts

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'on BBC Newsline, BBC Radio Ulster and BBC Foyle

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'is just part of what we do.'

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But whenever the weather becomes the news,

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I want to be there bringing you that story.

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