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Ladybird books were once as much a part of childhood as lace-up shoes

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and warm school milk.

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To open a familiar one is to go straight back in time.

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I'm going to spoil the ending for you.

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These colourful little hardbacks were full of information on

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myriad marvellous subjects.

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They made the natural world fascinating.

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To me, as a child, knowing that this was out there with

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a scowl on its face like that was tremendously exciting.

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They made fairytales enchanting.

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"Snow-White and Rose-Red kept their mother's cottage

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"so clean and tidy, it was a pleasure to go into it."

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Immediately, you're there in this perfect little world.

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And they made history dramatic.

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This is the first time I've held this book for 52 years,

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and it really began a lifelong passion that I have for Nelson.

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The vintage years for Ladybirds were between the 1950s and

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the 1970s when they offered up the world of knowledge to

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children in a very particular way.

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One of the things that is so good about Ladybird is, actually,

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there's a huge amount of detailed factual content,

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and it was very carefully researched.

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What they illustrated was a time when there was

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a great deal of optimism through science,

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and it filtered all the way down to wanting to tell children about it.

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These early Ladybirds are also time capsules that shed light on

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what Britain used to be like and how we used to think.

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All growth is good, building motorways is good.

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To aspire was a good thing.

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That was the consciousness that presides in the Ladybird universe.

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This felt like a very safe world,

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like the sort of world...how the world ought to be.

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For three generations,

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millions of Ladybirds multiplied on the nation's bookshelves,

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and the story of how that happened and the creative force behind

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them is described in this interesting documentary.

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HE LAUGHS

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That's wonderful. If only more blurbs were like that.

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Necessity is often the mother of invention, and the iconic shape

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of a Ladybird book was invented to get round wartime paper rationing.

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The company behind the idea were not even publishers.

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Wills & Hepworth were a Midlands printing firm casting around

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for a means to keep their presses rolling.

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Their foray into children's books was made possible by the discovery

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of an ingenious way to beat the paper shortages.

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And Helen here is going to show you what they did.

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Somebody had hit upon the idea which is that you can actually take

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one sheet of paper. With just a couple of cuts and

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some clever folding,

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you can turn it into a book. I'll show you how big it is.

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It's printed on both sides. 52 pages. Very, very clever.

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That make, do and mend approach gave us the now familiar Ladybird book -

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seven inches high by four and three quarter wide, 52 pages long

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with text on the left-hand page and pictures on the right.

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They sold initially for two shillings and sixpence.

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"Yes! Away the Bunnies started. Bunnikin, of course, was last.

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"Fluff called, 'Bunnikin! Don't dawdle!'

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"'Well,' he said, 'you go too fast.'"

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The early books were charming but hard to actually read.

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Wills & Hepworth had

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no feel for children's books beyond coloured pictures.

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I think it's clear that Wills & Hepworth didn't really see the value

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of what they were doing, they didn't see this as their core business.

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But one of their employers saw more potential in the book.

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His name was Douglas Keen.

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Keen was a salesman with the company and, after the war,

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he set about convincing his bosses to take a different tack.

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Keen thought Ladybirds would be better as educational books.

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Post-war Britain was a society changing fast.

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Why not use the Ladybird format to make books to inform children

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about the world and what was in it?

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Keen could see the kind of book he had in mind, so he went home,

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sat at his kitchen table and made a prototype.

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This telephone directory-sized object is the prototype that

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my father made himself to try and convince the Board of Directors

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that an educational book about birds would be a good seller.

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He chose birds for the first book cos that was the thing

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he loved most and the thing he was most interested in and was

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most knowledgeable about.

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I think my mother did some of the little sort of line drawings

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as well as illustrations, and he worked out a text.

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As well as his wife,

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Keen also enlisted the help of his mother-in-law - a gifted

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amateur artist who did the colour paintings of birds.

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This massive prototype became a mock-up of how the book would

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actually look when it was published.

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Again, a little watercolour painting by my grandmother and some

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cutting and sticking that he did,

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typing little bits out himself, cutting other bits out from

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books and making an actual size mock-up of how the book would look.

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Keen stuck to the existing Ladybird format of picture on one side

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and text on the other. The difference was in the content.

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He now took his sample books and showed them to the board at

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Wills & Hepworth.

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Once he'd produced this and shown it to the directors,

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they then realised that this would work.

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They hadn't been able to imagine it before but,

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once they could see this in front of them,

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they realised that this could become a commercial possibility.

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In 1953, the first edition of the British book of Birds And

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Their Nests rolled off the printing presses.

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To create it, Keen employed both a famous naturalist and

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a wildlife artist. Their names were a big selling point.

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This is the first book of British Birds,

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and I think it's a lovely, lovely bird book because the illustrations,

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which were done by a notable artist, Seaby,

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are exquisitely produced.

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Bullfinch - oh, look at that. What a fantastic bird.

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And there is its egg. And they're there in the snow.

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It's kind of looking out of the back of its eye like a cat when

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it thinks you're about to do something nasty to it!

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And this is... Yes, all these pictures are incredibly evocative.

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And, of course,

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they are all absolutely classic English garden birds.

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So there was...

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You could look up from the book and see them flickering around in

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the garden.

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Keen's instinct that a bird book might be popular proved right.

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It tapped into a vogue for bird-watching that the BBC

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also picked up on.

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-ARCHIVE:

-Bird speeds are usually grossly exaggerated.

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But you can take this, I think,

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as a safe general rule, and that is that the bigger the bird,

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the faster it flies normally,

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and the smaller the bird, the faster it seems to fly.

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Now, young twitchers could buy an affordable hardback pocket guide

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with unusually generous colour illustrations and bite-sized

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bird effects.

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"The bullfinch is one of our most beautiful birds.

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"The nest is made of twigs lined with hair and is just a shallow cup.

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"Starlings are very clever at imitating the songs of other birds."

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Starling's singing away, and there's its blue egg.

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And I'd already found half of one of those on the lawn in my garden.

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So I was really pleased to be able to say,

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that egg that I found is a starling egg.

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So this book was having a practical use immediately.

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Douglas Keen was one of Wills & Hepworth's top salesmen -

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debonair, hard-working and smart.

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But now, he had a product he really wanted to sell.

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He loaded up the company car and set about marketing it with gusto.

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In order to help promote the books in the bookshops,

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he would actually make or get made cut-out models of some of

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the animals, and then those would be used in the bookshop windows.

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He was very good on the sort of presentation,

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the retail psychology side of it of what would draw people's eyes.

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For the bird book,

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he did a mock-up with little stuffed birds and real branches.

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That was the sort of thing he did.

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And he would get the showcases made by a local carpenter.

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He would get a local sign writer to paint them.

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It stopped people in their tracks as they walked by the bookshop window

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and the children would see this big attractive display

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and say, "Look, Mum, can I have that book?"

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And the manager would feel that he'd had something done specially

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for him and, therefore, put extra effort into making a good display of

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books inside the shop and to getting the assistants to sell the books.

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Keen's creative salesmanship paid off.

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Very quickly, the books sold out and were soon followed by

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bird books II and III.

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Very quickly, letters came into Wills & Hepworth from

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happy bookshop owners.

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"For the attention of Mr Keen.

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"As a matter of interest, we thought you would like to know that,

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"since displaying the special set of Ladybird British Birds And

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"Their Nests, we have sold over 300 copies of this book."

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"We are swamped with orders - an increase of 40%."

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"Dear Sir, I feel sure you will be interested to know that, during the

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"last 24 days, we have sold upwards of 700 of your Ladybird series..."

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"I thought you would be interested to hear the results achieved at

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"the branches where the special displays of Ladybird books

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"have been featured. Bridgend, 513, Llanelli..."

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"We have now reached well over the 1,000 sales mark of the

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"Ladybird bird book.

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"We are very pleased with these results."

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One letter in particular convinced Keen

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he was on the right track with factual books for children.

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It was from a primary school adviser called John Gagg.

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Gagg claimed schools were in desperate need of well-written

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educational material and thought the Ladybird formula might be

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the answer.

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"Teachers are almost vainly seeking easy reference books of many

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"kinds," wrote Gagg.

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"With British Birds, you have now rung the bell,

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"but we want lots more."

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Keen already had ideas lined up for more books and the success of

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British Birds meant the Board of Directors were open to his

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suggestions.

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In 1956, Ladybird launched a new history series. It was a smart move.

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The subject was part of the school curriculum and potential for

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titles was almost endless.

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It will probably surprise you but,

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of all of the Ladybird books that I had,

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probably my favourite wasn't any of the wildlife titles.

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It was this book here, which is the story of Henry V.

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Here's the map, shows the route from Southampton,

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which is where I lived and where I was born and grew up.

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So this had that immediate context.

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Over they go, into France, and there was the siege here, and they go on

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this long march and they end up here at the muddy field in Agincourt.

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The history series was very timely. Britain had just come through a war.

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Children were aware of the role heroism,

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leadership and sacrifice had played.

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To write the series,

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Douglas Keen needed someone who could handle such big themes for

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children, and he found him in the children's department at the BBC.

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-ARCHIVE:

-England expects two words which, down the years,

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have shaped the course of history, two words which, in our

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country's need, have never failed to find an echo in our English hearts.

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There is no order of a tyrant king to a slave people.

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These are freedom's words addressed to free men,

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theirs to withhold or give. England expects.

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That speech was written by Lawrence du Garde Peach.

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A dramatist rather than a historian, du Garde Peach was not

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an obvious choice, but he was, as it turned out, an inspired one.

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"This is the story of one of the greatest and bravest sailors England has ever known."

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Well, you see, how could that not go straight into your heart like an arrow?

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The second paragraph says, "His many adventures,

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"from his first boyhood voyage to the last great victory at Trafalgar,

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"are described in this interesting book."

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HE LAUGHS

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The history books are almost literally everything you

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really need to know about British and Scottish history. Um...

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In tiny little book form.

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The Story Of The First Queen Elizabeth in that.

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It's just amazing.

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Du Garde Peach's take on history was that it was an awfully big

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adventure, full of interesting and colourful characters you

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could relate to.

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L du Garde Peach, I think, is a fantastic writer because he brings

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a sort of immediacy and cheeriness to the way that he conveys history.

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It makes it very easy to understand,

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and it's quite personality-based, which I really love.

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One of my favourites is The Story Of Charles II,

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which is quite partial, and it says...one of the pages says,

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"King Charles was dark and good-looking.

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"What was much more important, he was a very friendly man.

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"But perhaps what made him most popular was that he was gay.

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"That is why King Charles II was known as the Merry Monarch."

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Fantastic. That's L du Garde Peach for you.

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I think this is a really amazing scene.

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This is the scene of the young Oliver Cromwell as a boy,

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and he meets the future King Charles I,

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who's of course just kind of a young prince at that age.

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And there's a big tussle and guess who wins?

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Well, of course it's Oliver!

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But the visual quality of this - the bright blue of Charles' costume,

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Oliver's more sort of sober brown,

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which is sending a message in itself that Charles is maybe a bit vain and

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flamboyant, whereas Oliver is the kind of more morally serious one.

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It's just brilliant, I think, visually.

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So the combination of these vivid,

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vivid bright pictures and then this informative, detailed,

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factual text telling a powerful story,

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often with very powerfully sort of emotionally and morally

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charged messages - I think it's just a brilliant combination.

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It was as if you made friends with whoever it was.

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So, you would read this book,

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and you would really see things from Oliver Cromwell's point of view,

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but then you would read Charles II, and then you would see it

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from Charles II's point of view, and then so on and so forth.

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The illustrations were by commercial artist John Kenney.

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Kenney was wonderful at faces

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and could depict muskets, ships and costumes with accuracy.

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But he also understood drama,

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and could stir children's hearts with his paintbrush.

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I mean, look at this.

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This is an illustration of "the hail of arrows".

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It's a very rich picture.

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I mean, it's horrific.

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These are people being slaughtered

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in the most savage and incomprehensible way,

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but the illustration itself is just...amazing.

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Look at the horses with their mouths open, and people flailing about.

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I would look at this and I would imagine the horror,

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as a child, of being in amongst this turmoil of extreme violence.

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So, it appealed to me.

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Perhaps I didn't want to say that. But it did! It did!

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In this picture, Warwick has been summoned to a meeting,

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a sort of peacemaking meeting at Coventry,

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but he gets a sort of uneasy feeling,

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and then, this horseman gallops up,

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they're only just a few hundred yards from Coventry

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and he gallops up and he says,

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"Look, it's a trap, they're coming to get you."

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And, as Ladybird describes it,

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the men-at-arms were already visible,

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coming towards Warwick, and he turns his horse and gallops away.

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So, it was just incredibly exciting as a child.

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The death. Well, death is always interesting.

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You see him on death, having just been shot...

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..by the person high up in the...

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..in the sort of crossbeams of the...

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..French ship.

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The Adventures From History series

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inspired three generations to love history,

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and went on to sell 13 million copies.

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The books were emotional and partisan and made no bones about it.

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It really interests me now, as a professional historian.

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We have to ask, "Does history really matter

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"if there isn't any kind of human or moral dimension to it?"

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And, all right, I can now see, which I didn't at the time,

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that Ladybird were telling one version of a story,

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and there were lots of other versions

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which you could quite reasonably tell, as well,

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but I think the thing I loved, and even now I really like,

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is that they put their cards on the table

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and they tried to sort of show the human side of it.

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This is a book which weighs...

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2oz or something,

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but it comes with an amazing sort of gravity of its own.

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And it's not just the object, of course,

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as I'm sitting holding it now, I can see the room in which I read it,

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which was my bedroom that I shared with my brother.

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I can see my mum who died young...

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um...just sort of moving around in the room.

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I can see the pictures on the wall,

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and these are the kind of things which...

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Well, it's a world, and very, very powerful.

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With both the Bird and History titles proving lucrative,

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Douglas Keen was given free rein

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to explore other educational ideas for Ladybirds.

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Looking for gaps in the market,

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Keen found himself drawn to the area of preschool learning.

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-REPORTER:

-'In this programme,

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'we're seeing how a child's early language development

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'develops in communication with its mother in the home.'

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The one about the three pigs, how does that record go?

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The one with the Big Bad Wolf?

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Yes, it's the story of the Big Bad Wolf...

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The 1950s was seeing a growth in interest

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in how very young children learned to read.

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Research was showing that if mothers engaged their infants

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with learning at home, it had a marked effect

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on how well children did when they went to school.

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Douglas Keen, with two daughters of his own,

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knew how big a part home could play.

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My father was aware that before children even get to school,

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what they've learned from their mother,

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and from reading with their mother, was going to be very important,

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and that what is most important is the attitude to reading.

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That a child who goes to school already enthusiastic about books,

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if not necessarily able to read, is at a huge advantage.

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Keen hired an early learning expert named Margaret Gagg,

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wife of the letter-writing John,

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to write a series of books for preschool children.

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In case you were wondering,

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the letters after her name don't stand for "National Farmers' Union".

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They stand for "National Froebel Union" -

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Froebel being the German educationalist

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who invented kindergarten.

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"Here is the fish shop..."

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Gagg used words which young readers would've found familiar

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and the illustrations were bright and involving.

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These books looked simple, but a lot of thought went into their design.

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As a teacher now, when I look at the words,

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what I really appreciate is the font.

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It's really unusual to have such an accessible font,

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for example, to make the letter A look like the sort of an A

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that a child could recognise.

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They cut off the top of a D.

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It was attention to detail like that

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which made it very, very easy on the eye.

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Shopping With Mother was illustrated by graphic designer Harry Wingfield.

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He lived in suburbia with his wife and two small children,

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and it was his everyday world that came through in his pictures.

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That was very new, because in the '50s and '60s,

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a lot of the suburbs were built

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and a lot of the people lived in suburbia,

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which had hitherto not been a world

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which was depicted at all in anything, really.

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You know, kitchen-sink drama of the '50s and so on

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was considered really weird, because it was an ordinary working world.

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"We are going shopping."

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Oh! What shop is this?

0:21:020:21:04

The toy shop!

0:21:040:21:06

The toy shop.

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Aw, look at that little bunny.

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For children, it was like looking in a mirror.

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Shopping With Mother was my trip with my mother to the shops.

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No question. I recognise the shops.

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I recognise the people in them.

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Every shop that they go to, I think,

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"Oh, yeah, that's like Mr So-and-so on the village green."

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There was a row, a parade of shops along one side of the heath,

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and they all looked exactly like this.

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There wasn't a chemist there, but the grocer looked exactly the same.

0:21:350:21:38

I mean, it might as well be me, really,

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looking in through this shop window. He even looks a bit like me.

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I had a school blazer like that

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with stuff around the edges,

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and I do remember girls with those little coats.

0:21:490:21:52

The fashion is absolutely spot-on.

0:21:520:21:55

These pencil-like slim models

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wearing this sort of suit with the nipped-in waist,

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and those mushroom-like hats sitting on the top of their heads -

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those are so familiar. She is Little Miss Average.

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Harry Wingfield used popular '50s icons as source material.

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The effect this had was curious.

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It made his Ladybird books look exactly like real life,

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but with extra gloss.

0:22:220:22:24

-SHE SIGHS

-Ladybird Land...

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It's a place we all wanted to be, really.

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The sun shines,

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everything works.

0:22:320:22:34

Everything is kind of in Technicolor.

0:22:340:22:37

It's like watching a... watching a film.

0:22:370:22:40

People are decent to each other,

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and you know where you are,

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and nothing can harm children.

0:22:480:22:50

The postman smiles.

0:22:510:22:52

The policeman smiles,

0:22:520:22:54

adults are there to help children orient

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and find their way around the world.

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Ladybird books in general began to accentuate the positive

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and eliminate the negative. Everything in their world was good.

0:23:020:23:07

If roads are built, it will be great. There will be more prosperity

0:23:070:23:10

and then more people will be able to work,

0:23:100:23:12

building nuclear power stations and running shops.

0:23:120:23:14

And that's good. It's pre-consumerism.

0:23:140:23:16

So, the idea that all of this is going to gobble up the planet

0:23:160:23:19

and kill everybody could not be further away

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from the consciousness that presides in the Ladybird universe.

0:23:210:23:25

The Learning To Read series was another huge success.

0:23:270:23:30

In 1958, Douglas Keen was promoted.

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He became creative director,

0:23:330:23:35

and he based himself at home in Stratford-upon-Avon.

0:23:350:23:38

Here, he held his editorial meetings with the experts

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he needed for each book.

0:23:410:23:43

My father felt a big degree of personal responsibility

0:23:440:23:48

for accuracy and authenticity in the books.

0:23:480:23:51

One of the reasons he was always very, very determined

0:23:510:23:55

to get the best possible expert on any subject

0:23:550:23:58

was so that he knew, then, that he could rely on the information there.

0:23:580:24:02

Facts were important,

0:24:020:24:04

but it was the artwork that was captivating children.

0:24:040:24:07

More and more, Keen relied on illustrators

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who could make information exciting.

0:24:090:24:12

He was very clever in finding artists

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who were really good at getting their detail right.

0:24:140:24:18

The detail had to be spot-on, with the clothing,

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of background buildings and so on.

0:24:210:24:24

And the pictures had to be really interesting compositions -

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absolutely packed full of stuff happening.

0:24:280:24:31

As each new series of books went ahead,

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so new artists turned up at the Stratford house.

0:24:370:24:40

For the People At Work series, Keen brought in John Berry,

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a former war artist with a very photographic eye.

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John Berry was exceptionally good at working very accurately.

0:24:480:24:54

So, if there was any technical books,

0:24:540:24:57

my father would ask John Berry to do the illustrations,

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because he knew that he loved

0:25:000:25:02

working with that detail of accuracy.

0:25:020:25:05

I remember John Berry as being one of the most exciting of the artists.

0:25:050:25:10

He was quite an exuberant Cockney.

0:25:100:25:13

He stayed overnight on several occasions.

0:25:130:25:15

My sister remembers taking him a cup of tea one morning

0:25:150:25:19

and seeing him sitting up in bed bare-chested and smoking.

0:25:190:25:22

And I think this image has stayed with her!

0:25:220:25:25

Douglas Keen's younger daughter Caroline

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was photographed by the illustrator Harry Wingfield

0:25:290:25:32

who used her as the model for Magnets, Bulbs And Batteries

0:25:320:25:35

and The Lord's Prayer.

0:25:350:25:36

The Lord's Prayer came first,

0:25:370:25:39

I was about nine or ten

0:25:390:25:41

when Harry Wingfield came down and photographed me for that one,

0:25:410:25:45

and then that followed on with the Science series.

0:25:450:25:48

A number of illustrators came from the Eagle comic,

0:25:510:25:54

including the brilliant creator of the Dan Dare strip, Frank Hampson,

0:25:540:25:57

who brought a rather sinister frisson

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to the Ladybird Books Of Nursery Rhymes.

0:26:000:26:03

Frank Hampson saw things from the most peculiar angles.

0:26:030:26:07

So, you'll have pictures of the three blind mice,

0:26:080:26:12

and you're looking from the floor up at the mice.

0:26:120:26:15

You know, Doctor Foster,

0:26:150:26:17

terrifying character floundering in your eye line to the water.

0:26:170:26:21

One of the most prestigious artists Keen employed

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was Charles F Tunnicliffe, a Royal Academician

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who was invited, in the late 1950s,

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to create a series of books about the countryside.

0:26:340:26:37

I was surprised...

0:26:380:26:40

..to see Charles Tunnicliffe in a Ladybird book,

0:26:410:26:44

because I always knew him as a wildlife artist.

0:26:440:26:48

And it was one of the first times that I realised that serious artists

0:26:480:26:53

also were illustrators.

0:26:530:26:55

What I liked about these was that the scenes were very real.

0:27:020:27:06

And within the Ladybird book, given what it needed to achieve,

0:27:060:27:10

which was to have a diversity. I mean, look at this one here.

0:27:100:27:13

You've got a couple of tree species, you've got beech and oak.

0:27:130:27:17

You've got some ferns.

0:27:170:27:18

You've got at least three or four species of fungi.

0:27:180:27:20

You've got some pheasants on the fence.

0:27:200:27:22

This isn't something that's been done casually in five minutes.

0:27:220:27:25

Tunnicliffe has put as much effort into this illustration

0:27:250:27:28

as he did any of his greater works.

0:27:280:27:31

This one here is one of my favourites.

0:27:330:27:37

It's from What To Look For In Winter and it shows a seed drill.

0:27:370:27:40

But the thing that I absolutely love about it

0:27:400:27:43

is the perspective that Tunnicliffe has adopted.

0:27:430:27:46

And I think it's just stunningly original because it's seen

0:27:460:27:48

from the wood pigeons' perspective.

0:27:480:27:50

Tunnicliffe's illustrations for the What To Look For series

0:27:540:27:56

were not simple representations of the countryside.

0:27:560:28:00

They were painted with a much more knowing eye.

0:28:000:28:03

The '50s and '60s were a period of rural upheaval.

0:28:030:28:06

They marked the changeover from the old agricultural ways to the new.

0:28:060:28:10

-REPORTER:

-'Each field is tested daily,

0:28:120:28:14

'the crops' tenderness is scientifically measured

0:28:140:28:17

'and the peas are gathered at the moment of maximum sweetness.

0:28:170:28:20

'So, automation extends to the farm

0:28:200:28:22

'and it's your dinner table that benefits.'

0:28:220:28:25

These sweeping changes were a much-debated topic.

0:28:260:28:29

Modernisers argued that factory farming was the future.

0:28:290:28:33

Traditionalists lamented the passing of the old ways.

0:28:330:28:36

Tunnicliffe's illustrations told children that both could coexist.

0:28:360:28:42

The question of where mechanisation fits into rural life,

0:28:420:28:46

and whether, actually, it's a natural part of rural life

0:28:460:28:49

or whether it's some kind of alien, urban intrusion into rural life

0:28:490:28:52

is a really hot issue at this time.

0:28:520:28:54

One of the things which the What To Look For books were trying to do

0:28:540:28:58

was to suggest that nature and farming went hand-in-hand together.

0:28:580:29:02

So, it seems to me the seed drill

0:29:020:29:04

harmonises perfectly with the rural scene.

0:29:040:29:07

It's these soft, muted blue and grey colours. The brown of the fields,

0:29:070:29:11

look at the brown of the man bending over the seed drill.

0:29:110:29:13

So, it's a vision of perfect harmony, and in many ways,

0:29:130:29:16

I think that was actually really quite innovative,

0:29:160:29:19

because it's not just taking a nostalgic view of the countryside,

0:29:190:29:22

but trying to come to terms with the real facts of change

0:29:220:29:25

in the countryside.

0:29:250:29:26

This is really all about justifying the ways of modern farming

0:29:260:29:29

to Ladybird readers.

0:29:290:29:31

What To Look For In Winter

0:29:370:29:39

was followed by What To Look For In Spring, Summer and Autumn.

0:29:390:29:43

Each book, a seasonal snapshot of small facts.

0:29:430:29:46

Spring is when deer have their young.

0:29:470:29:50

Autumn is when whooper swans migrate.

0:29:500:29:53

"The lake is partly frozen.

0:29:560:29:58

"Where the water has been kept in motion

0:29:580:30:00

"by the swimming movements of the ducks,

0:30:000:30:02

"ice has not been able to form,

0:30:020:30:04

"and so they have made for themselves pools

0:30:040:30:07

"in which they can dive to look for things to eat.

0:30:070:30:10

"Standing on the ice are mallards - both drakes and ducks.

0:30:110:30:14

"In the pool near, are widgeon,

0:30:140:30:16

"and in the distance, tufted duck.

0:30:160:30:18

"These birds move about in flocks in winter,

0:30:180:30:22

"from one pond or lake to another,

0:30:220:30:23

"and often, the flocks mingle."

0:30:230:30:25

Published in the heyday of primary school nature corners

0:30:280:30:32

and weekend family rambles,

0:30:320:30:34

these books were all part

0:30:340:30:35

of helping children stay in touch with the land.

0:30:350:30:38

I saw a TV programme once

0:30:410:30:43

where children thought milk came from milkmen.

0:30:430:30:47

They didn't know it came from cows.

0:30:470:30:50

So, there was probably an earnest feeling,

0:30:500:30:54

on the part of Ladybird - who, at heart, are educators,

0:30:540:30:58

as well as storytellers -

0:30:580:30:59

to show children what the countryside is like.

0:30:590:31:03

And Tunnicliffe...

0:31:030:31:05

was a perfect choice for that,

0:31:050:31:07

because Tunnicliffe understood the countryside.

0:31:070:31:10

He was a country man.

0:31:100:31:12

He was a country man at heart.

0:31:120:31:13

As more and more titles were devised,

0:31:190:31:21

more top-flight illustrators

0:31:210:31:23

lent their creativity to the Ladybird brand.

0:31:230:31:25

Martin Aitchison was a master of character,

0:31:260:31:31

Ronald Lampitt had an eye for landscape and maps,

0:31:310:31:34

Frank Humphris could capture every detail of the Wild West,

0:31:340:31:39

and Robert Ayton and G Robinson

0:31:390:31:41

made children just love making things.

0:31:410:31:43

Douglas Keen now found himself at the heart of factual publishing

0:31:520:31:57

at a very exciting time.

0:31:570:31:59

So much was being built and invented and discovered

0:31:590:32:02

that books explaining what was going on were in demand

0:32:020:32:05

by children fascinated by the promise of the future.

0:32:050:32:08

Not that everyone thought that this was a good thing...

0:32:100:32:12

Good evening.

0:32:140:32:15

Christmas, you may have heard, is coming.

0:32:150:32:18

And probably some millions of dads and mums and uncles and aunts

0:32:180:32:22

all over the country are now thinking about children's books.

0:32:220:32:26

But out of the thousands of books laid before us

0:32:260:32:28

for children at Christmas time,

0:32:280:32:30

do we really know any more what the modern child wants to read?

0:32:300:32:34

Are the old classics, Treasure Island and Kidnapped

0:32:340:32:37

and Little Women and Black Beauty and so on still favourites?

0:32:370:32:40

Douglas Keen had his own response to that.

0:32:430:32:46

In 1964, he launched a fiction series

0:32:460:32:49

featuring old European fairytales.

0:32:490:32:52

They were retold in classic Ladybird style.

0:32:520:32:56

"Once upon a time", well, that's always a good way to begin.

0:32:560:32:59

"There was a little girl called Cinderella. Her mother was dead,

0:32:590:33:02

"and she lived with her father and her two elders."

0:33:020:33:04

I mean, that's absolutely it. Bang, bang, bang.

0:33:040:33:06

"When the dwarf caught sight of Snow-White and Rose-Red,

0:33:060:33:09

"he shouted, 'You ugly creatures!

0:33:090:33:11

"'Why do you stand there staring instead of trying to help me?'"

0:33:110:33:13

And he is horrible, by the way. He is just horrible.

0:33:130:33:16

He used to scare me.

0:33:160:33:18

"Cinderella's elder sisters were beautiful and fair of face but,

0:33:180:33:21

"because they were bad-tempered and unkind,

0:33:210:33:23

"their faces grew to look ugly."

0:33:230:33:24

An Orwellian perception,

0:33:240:33:27

as it turns out.

0:33:270:33:28

The Well-Loved Tales series

0:33:300:33:32

is a bit of a phenomenon, honestly, I think.

0:33:320:33:34

Adored, strangely adored by...

0:33:360:33:40

sort of two or three generations of people who grew up with them.

0:33:400:33:44

My daughter, when she was tiny, had this edition,

0:33:440:33:48

which ended up like lots of her Ladybird books,

0:33:480:33:50

with the spine dropped off,

0:33:500:33:53

and the pages became a bit dirty

0:33:530:33:56

and there was often cornflakes and things stuck in there.

0:33:560:34:00

But this is just evidence of a child loving a book,

0:34:000:34:03

having it, using it. It was just a wonderful toy.

0:34:030:34:07

"The ugly sisters made Cinderella do all the work in the house.

0:34:090:34:14

"She carried coal for the fire, cooked the meals,

0:34:140:34:17

"washed the dishes, scrubbed and mended the clothes,

0:34:170:34:20

"swept the floor and dusted the furniture.

0:34:200:34:23

"She worked from morning till night, without stopping."

0:34:230:34:27

To write the books,

0:34:280:34:29

Keen hired an educationalist called Vera Southgate.

0:34:290:34:33

Her task was to render each fairy tale down to 26 small pages.

0:34:330:34:38

What's important to a child is not quite what's important to an adult.

0:34:380:34:42

You know, major plot points,

0:34:420:34:43

you have to reach all those milestones,

0:34:430:34:45

but you also have to say things like,

0:34:450:34:47

"Snow-White and Rose-Red kept their mother's cottage

0:34:470:34:50

"so clean and tidy that it was a pleasure to go into it."

0:34:500:34:53

And immediately, you're there in this perfect little world,

0:34:530:34:55

and that's very important

0:34:550:34:57

for the interruption of the advent of evil into it.

0:34:570:35:00

It's such an art, keeping the right level of detail

0:35:020:35:05

without sort of clogging up the train of thought or the narrative.

0:35:050:35:10

And staying within your 56 or whatever page...boundaries...

0:35:110:35:16

I shouldn't open these books, while I'm talking,

0:35:170:35:20

because I lose the thread because I start reading!

0:35:200:35:22

The series was shared between two illustrators,

0:35:260:35:29

Eric Winter and Robert Lumley.

0:35:290:35:31

They stuck to the Ladybird formula

0:35:310:35:33

of the picture helping the words along for young readers.

0:35:330:35:36

I was talking to somebody recently who was being very snippy

0:35:390:35:42

about the illustrations, and I think lots of people are snippy

0:35:420:35:47

who didn't grow up with the pictures.

0:35:470:35:49

Saying that they're too graphic, they're too visual,

0:35:490:35:51

they leave nothing for the imagination.

0:35:510:35:54

Realistic illustration is good for very young children,

0:35:540:35:57

because they are not good at interpreting pictures.

0:35:570:36:01

But for pictures to look as if they're like photographs -

0:36:010:36:07

real people - a child immediately homes in on that

0:36:070:36:12

and can understand and read the illustrations perfectly clearly.

0:36:120:36:16

I can just remember looking at

0:36:160:36:18

a picture of Cinderella weeping into her handkerchief

0:36:180:36:22

and thinking this was just such a beautiful picture,

0:36:220:36:25

and I remember asking my mum,

0:36:250:36:27

"Why is the Mona Lisa a famous picture and not this picture?

0:36:270:36:31

"Why do people queue to see the Mona Lisa

0:36:310:36:33

"and nobody queues to see that? Why?"

0:36:330:36:36

The '60s was a period of wild innovation in book illustration.

0:36:390:36:43

Artists like Brian Wildsmith, Ralph Steadman and Quentin Blake

0:36:430:36:47

became known for their unique styles.

0:36:470:36:51

But I don't think that you could look at one of these and say,

0:36:510:36:56

"Oh, there is a...

0:36:560:36:58

"Hmm... Eric Winter..."

0:36:580:37:00

in the way Wildsmith or people like Ralph Steadman.

0:37:000:37:06

At Ladybird, all illustrators and authors

0:37:060:37:08

were entirely at the service of the brand.

0:37:080:37:11

And the thing I've only just noticed about all these Ladybird books -

0:37:110:37:15

with the Well-Loved Tales, especially -

0:37:150:37:18

is that they don't have any author on the outside.

0:37:180:37:21

And I think they were...

0:37:210:37:23

Yeah, they were all retold

0:37:230:37:25

by Vera Southgate - MA BCom - on the inside.

0:37:250:37:29

I presume... Again, it's the branding,

0:37:310:37:34

it's THIS that you're looking for,

0:37:340:37:37

and this bit is the bit you trust, and...and want to find.

0:37:370:37:40

The Well-Loved Tales added to the growing library of Ladybirds.

0:37:450:37:50

Every week, tens of thousands of them flew into the bookshops

0:37:500:37:53

and then out again almost as quickly.

0:37:530:37:55

Ladybirds were sold, not just in bookshops,

0:37:580:38:01

they were sold in corner stores, chemists...

0:38:010:38:04

Places where people went to do other things.

0:38:040:38:08

So, a kid would have their pocket money,

0:38:080:38:10

or they would be there with their mother or father or their granny,

0:38:100:38:13

and they'd pick up a Ladybird book.

0:38:130:38:15

It would be something that a lot of people did once a week.

0:38:150:38:18

After all this time, a Ladybird book still cost

0:38:200:38:23

just two shillings and sixpence.

0:38:230:38:25

It was important because two and six was a single coin,

0:38:250:38:28

and it was what a lot of children got for their pocket money.

0:38:280:38:31

I did, at that time.

0:38:310:38:32

With the price so low,

0:38:320:38:33

the way publishers Wills & Hepworth made money

0:38:330:38:37

was by sheer volume of sales.

0:38:370:38:39

There are about 700 of them or so,

0:38:390:38:42

so there were an awful lot to choose from.

0:38:420:38:44

And people collected series.

0:38:440:38:46

Once you got one, you got another one,

0:38:480:38:50

and then you put them together on shelf,

0:38:500:38:53

and I'm OCD, and probably always have been,

0:38:530:38:55

so then it meant having another one, and another one, and another one.

0:38:550:38:58

Then you had your wildlife section,

0:38:580:39:00

then you had your history section,

0:39:000:39:02

and then you had your science section -

0:39:020:39:04

weather, and other stuff like that, you know?

0:39:040:39:06

And then, there were a few oddities - Underwater Exploration,

0:39:060:39:10

and The Seashore which fitted in.

0:39:100:39:12

And I liked having a whole stack of MY books together.

0:39:120:39:17

Producing such a wide array of titles was a lot of work.

0:39:180:39:22

With so many books to proofread and check for error,

0:39:220:39:25

Douglas Keen once again roped his family in to help.

0:39:250:39:28

My mother used to proof-check books, and I used to, as well.

0:39:290:39:32

Right from the original stage when you'd have the first...the text,

0:39:320:39:36

just sort of type-written out on big A4 sheets,

0:39:360:39:39

and then you'd have the pack of drawings

0:39:390:39:41

that would come through from the artists.

0:39:410:39:43

And we'd go through and I'd be looking at the texts,

0:39:430:39:48

looking at the illustrations,

0:39:480:39:50

making sure that they all tallied.

0:39:500:39:51

And...

0:39:510:39:53

Yeah, I'm sure it was very good for my reading!

0:39:530:39:55

SHE LAUGHS

0:39:550:39:57

For anyone who loved and worked with books as the Keens did,

0:40:010:40:05

illiteracy was an unimaginable handicap.

0:40:050:40:07

But then, as now, some children found reading extremely difficult.

0:40:070:40:11

Mother thought I'd just be able to sit down and start to read,

0:40:130:40:17

just like that, without any trouble at all,

0:40:170:40:20

but it came as a big surprise to me when I found I couldn't.

0:40:200:40:24

Research was highlighting that 10% of children

0:40:260:40:29

were failing to read by the time they left primary school -

0:40:290:40:32

a matter of concern for all involved.

0:40:320:40:34

I've been studying this over the past six years,

0:40:360:40:39

and I find, quite conclusively,

0:40:390:40:41

that children who are very backward at the age of seven

0:40:410:40:45

remain backward throughout their school life,

0:40:450:40:48

no matter what is done about it.

0:40:480:40:51

The determination to help

0:40:510:40:52

what were then known as "backward" or "remedial" children

0:40:520:40:55

was such that there was no shortage of learning schemes.

0:40:550:40:59

Hopes were high for one new concept

0:40:590:41:01

called the Initial Teaching Alphabet or ITA.

0:41:010:41:05

Yesterday, in the House Of Commons,

0:41:050:41:07

the Minister Of Education Sir Edward Boyle, gave ministerial approval

0:41:070:41:10

to an experiment that, in the years to come,

0:41:100:41:12

could well affect the life of every child in the country -

0:41:120:41:15

the use of a new alphabet.

0:41:150:41:17

Now then, I'm going to try some harder words now,

0:41:170:41:20

let's see if you can get these.

0:41:200:41:22

What about that one?

0:41:220:41:23

ALL: Nymph.

0:41:230:41:25

-Nymph.

-Nymph.

0:41:250:41:26

Nymph. That's right.

0:41:260:41:28

And this one?

0:41:280:41:30

ALL: Soldier.

0:41:300:41:32

Ladybird printed some of their books using ITA,

0:41:340:41:37

though not with any great conviction, nor in any great number,

0:41:370:41:41

and they did not sell well.

0:41:410:41:43

ITA was just one of many fashionable theories being tried out.

0:41:430:41:48

Each class I went to seemed to have a different idea

0:41:480:41:51

of teaching me to read than the other

0:41:510:41:54

and I kept on getting mixed up.

0:41:540:41:56

They were all very helpful,

0:41:560:41:58

but they just had these different ideas of how to teach to read.

0:41:580:42:01

A man called William Murray was also looking for a clear way forward.

0:42:010:42:06

Murray was headmaster of a remedial school in Cheltenham

0:42:060:42:10

working with young delinquents -

0:42:100:42:12

nearly all of whom had literacy problems.

0:42:120:42:14

He was at the sharp end,

0:42:140:42:16

because he was teaching young men who had failed.

0:42:160:42:20

And you had to find ways of getting through to these young people,

0:42:200:42:25

and then, what should they be learning, then?

0:42:250:42:29

What are the most used words?

0:42:290:42:31

William Murray and his colleague, Joe McNally,

0:42:330:42:35

found that, in the English language, there are...

0:42:350:42:38

-CHILD:

-..400,000 words...

0:42:380:42:41

..but most of us use only...

0:42:410:42:43

-CHILD:

-..20,000 words...

0:42:430:42:46

..in everyday speech, and of these, just...

0:42:460:42:48

-CHILD:

-..300 words...

0:42:480:42:50

..are the most common.

0:42:500:42:52

But the killer finding of their research

0:42:520:42:55

was that you could narrow down the amount of words needed

0:42:550:42:58

to begin to read to just 12.

0:42:580:42:59

-CHILD:

-Only 12?!

0:42:590:43:02

Yes, 12 key words make up 25% of a child's vocabulary,

0:43:020:43:07

which was a breakthrough piece of research.

0:43:070:43:10

And soon after this, at an education conference,

0:43:150:43:19

William Murray met Douglas Keen.

0:43:190:43:21

My father learned about the Key Words concept from William Murray,

0:43:220:43:27

and was very attracted to that idea because it had an aura of...

0:43:270:43:32

A scientific basis for something

0:43:320:43:36

which could become a commercial reality.

0:43:360:43:39

After much discussion, Keen and Murray came up with an agreement.

0:43:400:43:45

From 1964, Wills & Hepworth would roll out 36 titles -

0:43:450:43:49

three for each of the 12 stages of the Key Word Reading Scheme.

0:43:490:43:53

A huge commitment.

0:43:530:43:56

It was such a risk

0:43:560:43:58

because of having to publish so many titles all in one go

0:43:580:44:03

and take a leap of faith that this was going to be a scheme

0:44:030:44:07

that teachers were going to say, "Yes, this is the right one."

0:44:070:44:10

This was the way to teach children.

0:44:100:44:12

Another issue was that 12 words don't make a story.

0:44:140:44:18

So, the scheme was made workable

0:44:180:44:20

through the idea of a domestic setting.

0:44:200:44:22

Two children, Peter and Jane,

0:44:220:44:24

and their faithful red setter, Pat the dog,

0:44:240:44:28

led the familiar Ladybird lifestyle,

0:44:280:44:31

a glorious version of normality.

0:44:310:44:33

It was Harry Wingfield who first painted the world of Peter and Jane,

0:44:340:44:38

and then other Ladybird illustrators,

0:44:380:44:40

chiefly Martin Aitchison,

0:44:400:44:41

were brought in to help with the workload.

0:44:410:44:44

There is no artist like Martin Aitchison, I think,

0:44:460:44:48

for being a chameleon.

0:44:480:44:49

And those first pictures of Wingfield,

0:44:490:44:52

Martin then took up the baton and...

0:44:520:44:55

..you know, even if you're very accustomed

0:44:560:44:58

to looking at the artwork, he did a very, very good job.

0:44:580:45:01

In the early books, the pictures worked harder than the words,

0:45:060:45:09

but the main thing was they worked.

0:45:090:45:12

You read the pictures just like you read the words.

0:45:130:45:17

Peter. Peter.

0:45:170:45:20

The child will know that's Peter.

0:45:200:45:23

Now you know the principle,

0:45:250:45:28

so now you know that's Jane,

0:45:280:45:32

so now you know what Jane looks like, the word looks like.

0:45:320:45:37

And that very simple basis, I suppose,

0:45:370:45:39

is the basis of all reading,

0:45:390:45:41

recognising a word and understanding what it stands for.

0:45:410:45:45

Here is Peter and here is Jane.

0:45:480:45:52

Peter is here and Jane is here.

0:45:540:45:57

It was tremendously successful.

0:45:590:46:01

I grew up learning to read with Peter and Jane.

0:46:010:46:04

Everybody my age did.

0:46:040:46:06

For decades, Peter and Jane were synonymous with learning to read.

0:46:060:46:11

-What...

-Yes.

-..will...

-Mmm.

0:46:110:46:15

..you...do,

0:46:150:46:19

-read or...

-Yes.

0:46:190:46:23

..draw?

0:46:230:46:25

Well, the reaction was enormous

0:46:250:46:27

because the books were selling so quickly

0:46:270:46:31

and it was taken on in schools but also it was very,

0:46:310:46:34

very popular with parents.

0:46:340:46:36

It was very accessible and within no time at all, well,

0:46:360:46:40

fairly quickly, we were talking about millions of books being sold,

0:46:400:46:45

rather than tens of thousands of books being sold.

0:46:450:46:48

I think people actually undervalue the role they played in the

0:46:500:46:54

literacy of that era.

0:46:540:46:56

How fundamentally they were wrapped up with concepts about

0:46:560:47:00

learning to read.

0:47:000:47:02

Peter and Jane were more successful

0:47:050:47:07

than Douglas Keen could have dreamt.

0:47:070:47:09

Ladybird's yearly turnover leapt from £1 million to five million.

0:47:090:47:13

By the late '60s,

0:47:130:47:15

over half the primary schools in Britain were using them to

0:47:150:47:17

teach literacy and the scheme was launched in other languages.

0:47:170:47:21

The whole Peter and Jane series was produced in Welsh

0:47:210:47:26

and then in Irish and in Gaelic.

0:47:260:47:31

And a range of titles whose content could translate to other cultures

0:47:310:47:34

were published abroad as well.

0:47:340:47:37

All sorts of languages were produced.

0:47:370:47:39

They were sold in Afrikaans, there was Maltese, there was Serbian.

0:47:390:47:43

At home, the brand was now part of the culture.

0:47:430:47:46

Everyone knew the books and what they stood for.

0:47:460:47:49

Ah, Betty, this flying book has got all the pilots' language in it.

0:47:490:47:54

Negative, positive, affirmative. I'm going to learn all this.

0:47:540:47:58

In Parliament, Mr James Plaskitt MP taunted

0:47:580:48:01

a member of the opposition, saying, "I can conclude only that

0:48:010:48:04

"he's misread his Ladybird book of economics."

0:48:040:48:07

Here, here.

0:48:070:48:09

Apocryphal stories began to circulate about the use of

0:48:110:48:14

Ladybirds in the grown-up world.

0:48:140:48:16

I know for a fact that people who, in their professional lives, have

0:48:160:48:20

used Ladybird books to learn how to do things, computing for example.

0:48:200:48:26

The hovercraft is used by technicians on the hovercrafts now.

0:48:260:48:30

The Understanding Maps book was indeed used by the Army in

0:48:320:48:35

the Falklands War for teaching map reading to soldiers.

0:48:350:48:39

Even the police were rumoured to have taught cadets car maintenance

0:48:410:48:44

with a Ladybird book.

0:48:440:48:47

In 1971, Wills & Hepworth changed its name to Ladybird Books Ltd

0:48:490:48:54

and two years later, when sales reached 20 million books a year,

0:48:540:48:57

Keen and the other directors sold the company.

0:48:570:49:01

My father didn't want to leave it until he was 65.

0:49:010:49:05

He wanted to retire a little bit before then,

0:49:050:49:07

simply because he wanted to have time to do some of the things

0:49:070:49:10

that he was so interested in doing.

0:49:100:49:12

With Keen gone, what would happen to the brand that had been

0:49:140:49:17

so much his personal vision?

0:49:170:49:19

The answer was not long in coming.

0:49:190:49:22

Once Long & Pearson took over,

0:49:220:49:26

there was an initiative to use different typefaces,

0:49:260:49:33

to use more cartoon-like forms of illustration, to use sitography.

0:49:330:49:38

They became much more uniform.

0:49:420:49:43

They sort of lost that individuality that the artists could bring them

0:49:430:49:47

and they became just very sort of quotidian objects.

0:49:470:49:51

They just looked like anything. They looked like a catalogue.

0:49:510:49:53

They looked like a leaflet you could pick up in a bank.

0:49:530:49:55

They didn't look like a lovely magical world any longer.

0:49:550:49:59

At the same time, the Ladybird generations were growing up,

0:49:590:50:03

their old books being given or thrown away.

0:50:030:50:06

Once cherished, these were now looking rather tired and old hat

0:50:060:50:09

and the new owners of Ladybird thought that too.

0:50:090:50:13

In the early '80s,

0:50:130:50:14

they gave the Adventures From History series a modern makeover.

0:50:140:50:18

Pictures such as these have shaped the first images of history

0:50:180:50:22

for 13 million young people.

0:50:220:50:24

Alas, the vagaries of fashion are finally catching up with

0:50:240:50:27

L. Du Garde Peach and Ladybird are rewriting their history books.

0:50:270:50:31

These trenchant views are obviously thought too strong for today's youth

0:50:310:50:35

and his purple prose has been doctored to produce a blander,

0:50:350:50:38

more balanced view.

0:50:380:50:39

Peach on George I -

0:50:390:50:41

"He was a very stupid man and, as he never

0:50:410:50:44

"took the trouble to speak English, he was unpopular with everyone.

0:50:440:50:48

"As a king, he was completely unimportant."

0:50:480:50:51

Of the revised Peach -

0:50:510:50:54

"George I could speak no English and never bothered to learn

0:50:540:50:58

"and so his place at meetings of government ministers was

0:50:580:51:01

"taken over by a chief or prime minister."

0:51:010:51:04

Do you like Peach as a historian?

0:51:040:51:06

Yes, I have my doubts as to whether one ought to rate him as

0:51:060:51:10

a historian as such, or whether one perhaps ought to look upon him

0:51:100:51:13

as being a publicist.

0:51:130:51:15

But, for what he was doing, I think there's a lot to admire in the man.

0:51:150:51:19

What do you think he was doing?

0:51:190:51:21

What were these 13 million copies achieving?

0:51:210:51:23

Selling history.

0:51:230:51:25

So would your advice be to the publishers and to those who

0:51:250:51:28

think that Peach may be a little bit ripe here and there?

0:51:280:51:31

I think I would keep Peach because what the man was doing

0:51:310:51:36

successfully with 13-and-a-half million sales, was arousing

0:51:360:51:40

interest and that is something which I think must be kept.

0:51:400:51:43

By the 1990s, boxes of Ladybirds could be spotted in charity shops

0:51:460:51:50

and boot sales.

0:51:500:51:51

You could pick up a second hand copy for next to nothing,

0:51:510:51:55

which is when people started to collect them.

0:51:550:51:57

When my son was about a year old,

0:51:590:52:03

someone gave me a battered old bin bag full of books that they

0:52:030:52:06

were going to chuck out and in there were some falling apart

0:52:060:52:09

editions of I think Shopping With Mother and a Talk About book.

0:52:090:52:14

And I got them out and looked through them

0:52:140:52:17

and my son noticed the pictures and responded to them in a way

0:52:170:52:22

that he hadn't really responded to books before.

0:52:220:52:27

It was something about the artwork was different and my brain started

0:52:270:52:31

buzzing and I started thinking of more books and you read them

0:52:310:52:34

and you realise they're a series and you realise they're numbered and

0:52:340:52:37

you think there must be more books in the series and so it all began.

0:52:370:52:42

In my case it was fuelled by having children and wanting to

0:52:420:52:45

recreate that safety and security of the world in the books for

0:52:450:52:49

their childhoods and I felt that, by having lots of Ladybird books,

0:52:490:52:52

it gave me a very good reference point to try and be like

0:52:520:52:55

a mum in a Ladybird book.

0:52:550:52:56

In fact, my children used to resent it and come home from school,

0:52:560:52:59

if I was making scones, they'd go, "Oh, you're being Ladybird again!"

0:52:590:53:02

cos they just wanted to watch telly or get on the computer.

0:53:020:53:05

They didn't want to do baking and that kind of thing,

0:53:050:53:07

so that is what impelled my own collecting and I think it's

0:53:070:53:11

interesting why different people collect different things,

0:53:110:53:13

what they want, what they're trying to find.

0:53:130:53:16

What I particularly love about collecting older Ladybird books

0:53:160:53:20

is seeing the way that they've been used.

0:53:200:53:23

Seeing the fact that they've been given as

0:53:230:53:25

a school prize for something or, you know,

0:53:250:53:27

given to somebody from Auntie whoever with the date

0:53:270:53:31

as a birthday present.

0:53:310:53:33

It really gives them a history and shows how much they were loved.

0:53:330:53:36

Many collectors are interested in rarity value, the books that

0:53:370:53:41

did not sell well so were not printed in any great numbers.

0:53:410:53:45

These can now fetch upwards of £2,000 each.

0:53:450:53:49

But, for another kind of Ladybird fan, the value is not about money.

0:53:490:53:53

The illustrations, once so faithfully done,

0:53:530:53:56

have become precious pieces of social history.

0:53:560:54:00

Tunnicliffe's pictures here which are of the countryside

0:54:000:54:04

are full of birds.

0:54:040:54:06

There's a picture I'm looking at now of a pond in winter,

0:54:060:54:10

which is meant to show bulrushes and reeds and elm trees.

0:54:100:54:15

Where are they now?

0:54:150:54:17

And a flock of about 30 coot floating around on this pond.

0:54:170:54:21

You'd have to go a long way to find as many as 30 coot, so this is

0:54:210:54:25

a picture of a world in important respects, in terms of the numbers

0:54:250:54:30

of birds in it and of the trees we see in it, can not be seen any more.

0:54:300:54:34

Look at this. The partridge.

0:54:340:54:37

Now, when this book was first written and printed and sold

0:54:370:54:42

and went into the hands of budding naturalists,

0:54:420:54:45

this bird was very common all over the UK.

0:54:450:54:47

Sadly, it's very, very uncommon now.

0:54:470:54:50

A lot of the jobs that are shown, like the pottery makers are gone.

0:54:530:54:57

They depict an obsolete sector of the working world.

0:54:570:55:00

There's one, In A Big Store, and it's a sort of old-fashioned big

0:55:000:55:04

department store that's shown and it has an entire sewing department.

0:55:040:55:08

It has a picture of lots of women on sewing machines saying,

0:55:080:55:11

"When people buy things in a big store,

0:55:110:55:13

"they sometimes want to have things altered because they don't fit,

0:55:130:55:16

"so the items are sent up to the sewing room to be changed for

0:55:160:55:19

"each individual customer."

0:55:190:55:20

Of course, that's completely...

0:55:200:55:22

I don't think any child now would have a clue that that had

0:55:220:55:25

ever been a possibility, so they're interesting from that kind of

0:55:250:55:29

social history perspective too now.

0:55:290:55:31

The Ladybird books are very much of a kind of time.

0:55:370:55:40

Modern agriculture has developed completely out of scale with

0:55:400:55:43

the traditional countryside,

0:55:430:55:45

so this was a kind of precious moment perhaps, a moment of balance,

0:55:450:55:48

when mechanisation and the traditional countryside did seem

0:55:480:55:53

compatible and that's, in many ways, I think much less clear-cut,

0:55:530:55:56

much less certain now.

0:55:560:55:58

Everyone who had Ladybirds as a child tells the same story.

0:56:020:56:06

They read their favourite book so often,

0:56:060:56:08

they became part of their DNA.

0:56:080:56:11

When I look in this book now,

0:56:110:56:13

which I recently retrieved from my father's attic, it says,

0:56:130:56:16

"To Christopher, love your Gran and Grandad."

0:56:160:56:19

I can recall implicitly ALL of the drawings and if you were to

0:56:200:56:26

sit me down with a biro and say, "Go on, then,

0:56:260:56:29

"outline where the animals are and vaguely what they were doing,"

0:56:290:56:33

I think I'd probably score about 70%.

0:56:330:56:37

It's very hard to recreate what it feels like to be a child, but

0:56:370:56:41

if anything can, it's opening up a Ladybird book that I knew well as

0:56:410:56:46

a child and it bypasses everything that comes between it.

0:56:460:56:50

Suddenly, I don't feel, I just sense the feelings I felt when,

0:56:500:56:56

as a six-year-old, I stared at that Ladybird book picture.

0:56:560:56:59

I can't imagine what the child would be like to whom these didn't

0:57:030:57:07

instantly appeal,

0:57:070:57:09

who didn't manage to find a favourite somewhere along the way.

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And when you meet something like that in your childhood,

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they become part of some of your most formative experiences.

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What we take in as children, by and large, almost without exception,

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is what we remember best because, like creatures, we are imprinted by

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these things at a more fundamental level than is simply possible

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in our later lives.

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So, whether we like it or not,

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and actually in this case we like it a lot,

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there is a bedrock which has, in our minds, in our hearts,

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which has footprints on it

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and these footprints are the footprints of Ladybirds.

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