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Ladybird books were once as much a part of childhood as lace-up shoes | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
and warm school milk. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
To open a familiar one is to go straight back in time. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
I'm going to spoil the ending for you. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
These colourful little hardbacks were full of information on | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
myriad marvellous subjects. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
They made the natural world fascinating. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
To me, as a child, knowing that this was out there with | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
a scowl on its face like that was tremendously exciting. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
They made fairytales enchanting. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
"Snow-White and Rose-Red kept their mother's cottage | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
"so clean and tidy, it was a pleasure to go into it." | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
Immediately, you're there in this perfect little world. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
And they made history dramatic. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
This is the first time I've held this book for 52 years, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
and it really began a lifelong passion that I have for Nelson. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:12 | |
The vintage years for Ladybirds were between the 1950s and | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
the 1970s when they offered up the world of knowledge to | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
children in a very particular way. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
One of the things that is so good about Ladybird is, actually, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
there's a huge amount of detailed factual content, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
and it was very carefully researched. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
What they illustrated was a time when there was | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
a great deal of optimism through science, | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
and it filtered all the way down to wanting to tell children about it. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
These early Ladybirds are also time capsules that shed light on | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
what Britain used to be like and how we used to think. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
All growth is good, building motorways is good. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
To aspire was a good thing. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
That was the consciousness that presides in the Ladybird universe. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
This felt like a very safe world, | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
like the sort of world...how the world ought to be. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
For three generations, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
millions of Ladybirds multiplied on the nation's bookshelves, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
and the story of how that happened and the creative force behind | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
them is described in this interesting documentary. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:02:12 | 0:02:13 | |
That's wonderful. If only more blurbs were like that. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
Necessity is often the mother of invention, and the iconic shape | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
of a Ladybird book was invented to get round wartime paper rationing. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:38 | |
The company behind the idea were not even publishers. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
Wills & Hepworth were a Midlands printing firm casting around | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
for a means to keep their presses rolling. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
Their foray into children's books was made possible by the discovery | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
of an ingenious way to beat the paper shortages. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
And Helen here is going to show you what they did. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
Somebody had hit upon the idea which is that you can actually take | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
one sheet of paper. With just a couple of cuts and | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
some clever folding, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
you can turn it into a book. I'll show you how big it is. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
It's printed on both sides. 52 pages. Very, very clever. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
That make, do and mend approach gave us the now familiar Ladybird book - | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
seven inches high by four and three quarter wide, 52 pages long | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
with text on the left-hand page and pictures on the right. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
They sold initially for two shillings and sixpence. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
"Yes! Away the Bunnies started. Bunnikin, of course, was last. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:33 | |
"Fluff called, 'Bunnikin! Don't dawdle!' | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
"'Well,' he said, 'you go too fast.'" | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
The early books were charming but hard to actually read. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
Wills & Hepworth had | 0:03:43 | 0:03:44 | |
no feel for children's books beyond coloured pictures. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
I think it's clear that Wills & Hepworth didn't really see the value | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
of what they were doing, they didn't see this as their core business. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:56 | |
But one of their employers saw more potential in the book. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
His name was Douglas Keen. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
Keen was a salesman with the company and, after the war, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
he set about convincing his bosses to take a different tack. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
Keen thought Ladybirds would be better as educational books. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
Post-war Britain was a society changing fast. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
Why not use the Ladybird format to make books to inform children | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
about the world and what was in it? | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
Keen could see the kind of book he had in mind, so he went home, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
sat at his kitchen table and made a prototype. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
This telephone directory-sized object is the prototype that | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
my father made himself to try and convince the Board of Directors | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
that an educational book about birds would be a good seller. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
He chose birds for the first book cos that was the thing | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
he loved most and the thing he was most interested in and was | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
most knowledgeable about. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
I think my mother did some of the little sort of line drawings | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
as well as illustrations, and he worked out a text. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
As well as his wife, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:00 | |
Keen also enlisted the help of his mother-in-law - a gifted | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
amateur artist who did the colour paintings of birds. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
This massive prototype became a mock-up of how the book would | 0:05:11 | 0:05:17 | |
actually look when it was published. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
Again, a little watercolour painting by my grandmother and some | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
cutting and sticking that he did, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
typing little bits out himself, cutting other bits out from | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
books and making an actual size mock-up of how the book would look. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:35 | |
Keen stuck to the existing Ladybird format of picture on one side | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
and text on the other. The difference was in the content. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
He now took his sample books and showed them to the board at | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
Wills & Hepworth. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:47 | |
Once he'd produced this and shown it to the directors, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
they then realised that this would work. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
They hadn't been able to imagine it before but, | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
once they could see this in front of them, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
they realised that this could become a commercial possibility. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
In 1953, the first edition of the British book of Birds And | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
Their Nests rolled off the printing presses. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
To create it, Keen employed both a famous naturalist and | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
a wildlife artist. Their names were a big selling point. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:22 | |
This is the first book of British Birds, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
and I think it's a lovely, lovely bird book because the illustrations, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:30 | |
which were done by a notable artist, Seaby, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
are exquisitely produced. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
Bullfinch - oh, look at that. What a fantastic bird. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
And there is its egg. And they're there in the snow. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
It's kind of looking out of the back of its eye like a cat when | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
it thinks you're about to do something nasty to it! | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
And this is... Yes, all these pictures are incredibly evocative. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
And, of course, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:54 | |
they are all absolutely classic English garden birds. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
So there was... | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
You could look up from the book and see them flickering around in | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
the garden. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
Keen's instinct that a bird book might be popular proved right. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
It tapped into a vogue for bird-watching that the BBC | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
also picked up on. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:13 | |
-ARCHIVE: -Bird speeds are usually grossly exaggerated. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
But you can take this, I think, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:23 | |
as a safe general rule, and that is that the bigger the bird, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:30 | |
the faster it flies normally, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
and the smaller the bird, the faster it seems to fly. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
Now, young twitchers could buy an affordable hardback pocket guide | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
with unusually generous colour illustrations and bite-sized | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
bird effects. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:47 | |
"The bullfinch is one of our most beautiful birds. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:55 | |
"The nest is made of twigs lined with hair and is just a shallow cup. | 0:07:55 | 0:08:01 | |
"Starlings are very clever at imitating the songs of other birds." | 0:08:01 | 0:08:07 | |
Starling's singing away, and there's its blue egg. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
And I'd already found half of one of those on the lawn in my garden. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
So I was really pleased to be able to say, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
that egg that I found is a starling egg. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
So this book was having a practical use immediately. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
Douglas Keen was one of Wills & Hepworth's top salesmen - | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
debonair, hard-working and smart. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
But now, he had a product he really wanted to sell. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
He loaded up the company car and set about marketing it with gusto. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
In order to help promote the books in the bookshops, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
he would actually make or get made cut-out models of some of | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
the animals, and then those would be used in the bookshop windows. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
He was very good on the sort of presentation, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
the retail psychology side of it of what would draw people's eyes. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:59 | |
For the bird book, | 0:08:59 | 0:09:00 | |
he did a mock-up with little stuffed birds and real branches. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:05 | |
That was the sort of thing he did. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:06 | |
And he would get the showcases made by a local carpenter. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
He would get a local sign writer to paint them. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
It stopped people in their tracks as they walked by the bookshop window | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
and the children would see this big attractive display | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
and say, "Look, Mum, can I have that book?" | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
And the manager would feel that he'd had something done specially | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
for him and, therefore, put extra effort into making a good display of | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
books inside the shop and to getting the assistants to sell the books. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:35 | |
Keen's creative salesmanship paid off. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
Very quickly, the books sold out and were soon followed by | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
bird books II and III. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
Very quickly, letters came into Wills & Hepworth from | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
happy bookshop owners. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
"For the attention of Mr Keen. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
"As a matter of interest, we thought you would like to know that, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
"since displaying the special set of Ladybird British Birds And | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
"Their Nests, we have sold over 300 copies of this book." | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
"We are swamped with orders - an increase of 40%." | 0:09:59 | 0:10:04 | |
"Dear Sir, I feel sure you will be interested to know that, during the | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
"last 24 days, we have sold upwards of 700 of your Ladybird series..." | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
"I thought you would be interested to hear the results achieved at | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
"the branches where the special displays of Ladybird books | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
"have been featured. Bridgend, 513, Llanelli..." | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
"We have now reached well over the 1,000 sales mark of the | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
"Ladybird bird book. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:24 | |
"We are very pleased with these results." | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
One letter in particular convinced Keen | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
he was on the right track with factual books for children. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
It was from a primary school adviser called John Gagg. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
Gagg claimed schools were in desperate need of well-written | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
educational material and thought the Ladybird formula might be | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
the answer. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:45 | |
"Teachers are almost vainly seeking easy reference books of many | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
"kinds," wrote Gagg. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
"With British Birds, you have now rung the bell, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
"but we want lots more." | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
Keen already had ideas lined up for more books and the success of | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
British Birds meant the Board of Directors were open to his | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
suggestions. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:07 | |
In 1956, Ladybird launched a new history series. It was a smart move. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:15 | |
The subject was part of the school curriculum and potential for | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
titles was almost endless. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
It will probably surprise you but, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
of all of the Ladybird books that I had, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
probably my favourite wasn't any of the wildlife titles. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
It was this book here, which is the story of Henry V. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
Here's the map, shows the route from Southampton, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
which is where I lived and where I was born and grew up. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
So this had that immediate context. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
Over they go, into France, and there was the siege here, and they go on | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
this long march and they end up here at the muddy field in Agincourt. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
The history series was very timely. Britain had just come through a war. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
Children were aware of the role heroism, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
leadership and sacrifice had played. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
To write the series, | 0:11:58 | 0:11:59 | |
Douglas Keen needed someone who could handle such big themes for | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
children, and he found him in the children's department at the BBC. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
-ARCHIVE: -England expects two words which, down the years, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
have shaped the course of history, two words which, in our | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
country's need, have never failed to find an echo in our English hearts. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
There is no order of a tyrant king to a slave people. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
These are freedom's words addressed to free men, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
theirs to withhold or give. England expects. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
That speech was written by Lawrence du Garde Peach. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
A dramatist rather than a historian, du Garde Peach was not | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
an obvious choice, but he was, as it turned out, an inspired one. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:47 | |
"This is the story of one of the greatest and bravest sailors England has ever known." | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
Well, you see, how could that not go straight into your heart like an arrow? | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
The second paragraph says, "His many adventures, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
"from his first boyhood voyage to the last great victory at Trafalgar, | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
"are described in this interesting book." | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:13:01 | 0:13:02 | |
The history books are almost literally everything you | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
really need to know about British and Scottish history. Um... | 0:13:07 | 0:13:12 | |
In tiny little book form. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
The Story Of The First Queen Elizabeth in that. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
It's just amazing. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:23 | |
Du Garde Peach's take on history was that it was an awfully big | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
adventure, full of interesting and colourful characters you | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
could relate to. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:33 | |
L du Garde Peach, I think, is a fantastic writer because he brings | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
a sort of immediacy and cheeriness to the way that he conveys history. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
It makes it very easy to understand, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
and it's quite personality-based, which I really love. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
One of my favourites is The Story Of Charles II, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
which is quite partial, and it says...one of the pages says, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
"King Charles was dark and good-looking. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
"What was much more important, he was a very friendly man. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
"But perhaps what made him most popular was that he was gay. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
"That is why King Charles II was known as the Merry Monarch." | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
Fantastic. That's L du Garde Peach for you. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
I think this is a really amazing scene. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
This is the scene of the young Oliver Cromwell as a boy, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
and he meets the future King Charles I, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
who's of course just kind of a young prince at that age. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
And there's a big tussle and guess who wins? | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
Well, of course it's Oliver! | 0:14:25 | 0:14:26 | |
But the visual quality of this - the bright blue of Charles' costume, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:31 | |
Oliver's more sort of sober brown, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
which is sending a message in itself that Charles is maybe a bit vain and | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
flamboyant, whereas Oliver is the kind of more morally serious one. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
It's just brilliant, I think, visually. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
So the combination of these vivid, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:43 | |
vivid bright pictures and then this informative, detailed, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:49 | |
factual text telling a powerful story, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
often with very powerfully sort of emotionally and morally | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
charged messages - I think it's just a brilliant combination. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
It was as if you made friends with whoever it was. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
So, you would read this book, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:02 | |
and you would really see things from Oliver Cromwell's point of view, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
but then you would read Charles II, and then you would see it | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
from Charles II's point of view, and then so on and so forth. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
The illustrations were by commercial artist John Kenney. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
Kenney was wonderful at faces | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
and could depict muskets, ships and costumes with accuracy. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
But he also understood drama, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
and could stir children's hearts with his paintbrush. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
I mean, look at this. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:34 | |
This is an illustration of "the hail of arrows". | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
It's a very rich picture. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:38 | |
I mean, it's horrific. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
These are people being slaughtered | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
in the most savage and incomprehensible way, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
but the illustration itself is just...amazing. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
Look at the horses with their mouths open, and people flailing about. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
I would look at this and I would imagine the horror, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
as a child, of being in amongst this turmoil of extreme violence. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:02 | |
So, it appealed to me. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
Perhaps I didn't want to say that. But it did! It did! | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
In this picture, Warwick has been summoned to a meeting, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
a sort of peacemaking meeting at Coventry, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
but he gets a sort of uneasy feeling, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
and then, this horseman gallops up, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
they're only just a few hundred yards from Coventry | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
and he gallops up and he says, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
"Look, it's a trap, they're coming to get you." | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
And, as Ladybird describes it, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
the men-at-arms were already visible, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
coming towards Warwick, and he turns his horse and gallops away. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
So, it was just incredibly exciting as a child. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
The death. Well, death is always interesting. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
You see him on death, having just been shot... | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
..by the person high up in the... | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
..in the sort of crossbeams of the... | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
..French ship. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:55 | |
The Adventures From History series | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
inspired three generations to love history, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
and went on to sell 13 million copies. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
The books were emotional and partisan and made no bones about it. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
It really interests me now, as a professional historian. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
We have to ask, "Does history really matter | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
"if there isn't any kind of human or moral dimension to it?" | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
And, all right, I can now see, which I didn't at the time, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
that Ladybird were telling one version of a story, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
and there were lots of other versions | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
which you could quite reasonably tell, as well, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
but I think the thing I loved, and even now I really like, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
is that they put their cards on the table | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
and they tried to sort of show the human side of it. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
This is a book which weighs... | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
2oz or something, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
but it comes with an amazing sort of gravity of its own. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:47 | |
And it's not just the object, of course, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
as I'm sitting holding it now, I can see the room in which I read it, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
which was my bedroom that I shared with my brother. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
I can see my mum who died young... | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
um...just sort of moving around in the room. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:02 | |
I can see the pictures on the wall, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
and these are the kind of things which... | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
Well, it's a world, and very, very powerful. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
With both the Bird and History titles proving lucrative, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
Douglas Keen was given free rein | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
to explore other educational ideas for Ladybirds. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
Looking for gaps in the market, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
Keen found himself drawn to the area of preschool learning. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
-REPORTER: -'In this programme, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
'we're seeing how a child's early language development | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
'develops in communication with its mother in the home.' | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
The one about the three pigs, how does that record go? | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
The one with the Big Bad Wolf? | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
Yes, it's the story of the Big Bad Wolf... | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
The 1950s was seeing a growth in interest | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
in how very young children learned to read. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
Research was showing that if mothers engaged their infants | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
with learning at home, it had a marked effect | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
on how well children did when they went to school. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
Douglas Keen, with two daughters of his own, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
knew how big a part home could play. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
My father was aware that before children even get to school, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
what they've learned from their mother, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
and from reading with their mother, was going to be very important, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
and that what is most important is the attitude to reading. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
That a child who goes to school already enthusiastic about books, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
if not necessarily able to read, is at a huge advantage. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
Keen hired an early learning expert named Margaret Gagg, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
wife of the letter-writing John, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
to write a series of books for preschool children. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
In case you were wondering, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:35 | |
the letters after her name don't stand for "National Farmers' Union". | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
They stand for "National Froebel Union" - | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
Froebel being the German educationalist | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
who invented kindergarten. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
"Here is the fish shop..." | 0:19:46 | 0:19:47 | |
Gagg used words which young readers would've found familiar | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
and the illustrations were bright and involving. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
These books looked simple, but a lot of thought went into their design. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
As a teacher now, when I look at the words, | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
what I really appreciate is the font. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
It's really unusual to have such an accessible font, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:08 | |
for example, to make the letter A look like the sort of an A | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
that a child could recognise. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
They cut off the top of a D. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
It was attention to detail like that | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
which made it very, very easy on the eye. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
Shopping With Mother was illustrated by graphic designer Harry Wingfield. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
He lived in suburbia with his wife and two small children, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
and it was his everyday world that came through in his pictures. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
That was very new, because in the '50s and '60s, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
a lot of the suburbs were built | 0:20:40 | 0:20:41 | |
and a lot of the people lived in suburbia, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
which had hitherto not been a world | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
which was depicted at all in anything, really. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
You know, kitchen-sink drama of the '50s and so on | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
was considered really weird, because it was an ordinary working world. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:57 | |
"We are going shopping." | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
Oh! What shop is this? | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
The toy shop! | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
The toy shop. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:07 | |
Aw, look at that little bunny. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
For children, it was like looking in a mirror. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
Shopping With Mother was my trip with my mother to the shops. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:19 | |
No question. I recognise the shops. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
I recognise the people in them. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
Every shop that they go to, I think, | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
"Oh, yeah, that's like Mr So-and-so on the village green." | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
There was a row, a parade of shops along one side of the heath, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
and they all looked exactly like this. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
There wasn't a chemist there, but the grocer looked exactly the same. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
I mean, it might as well be me, really, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
looking in through this shop window. He even looks a bit like me. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
I had a school blazer like that | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
with stuff around the edges, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
and I do remember girls with those little coats. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
The fashion is absolutely spot-on. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
These pencil-like slim models | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
wearing this sort of suit with the nipped-in waist, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
and those mushroom-like hats sitting on the top of their heads - | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
those are so familiar. She is Little Miss Average. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
Harry Wingfield used popular '50s icons as source material. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
The effect this had was curious. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
It made his Ladybird books look exactly like real life, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
but with extra gloss. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
-SHE SIGHS -Ladybird Land... | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
It's a place we all wanted to be, really. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
The sun shines, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:32 | |
everything works. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
Everything is kind of in Technicolor. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
It's like watching a... watching a film. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
People are decent to each other, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
and you know where you are, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
and nothing can harm children. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
The postman smiles. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:52 | |
The policeman smiles, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
adults are there to help children orient | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
and find their way around the world. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
Ladybird books in general began to accentuate the positive | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
and eliminate the negative. Everything in their world was good. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:07 | |
If roads are built, it will be great. There will be more prosperity | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
and then more people will be able to work, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
building nuclear power stations and running shops. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
And that's good. It's pre-consumerism. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
So, the idea that all of this is going to gobble up the planet | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
and kill everybody could not be further away | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
from the consciousness that presides in the Ladybird universe. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
The Learning To Read series was another huge success. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
In 1958, Douglas Keen was promoted. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
He became creative director, | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
and he based himself at home in Stratford-upon-Avon. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
Here, he held his editorial meetings with the experts | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
he needed for each book. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
My father felt a big degree of personal responsibility | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
for accuracy and authenticity in the books. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
One of the reasons he was always very, very determined | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
to get the best possible expert on any subject | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
was so that he knew, then, that he could rely on the information there. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
Facts were important, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
but it was the artwork that was captivating children. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
More and more, Keen relied on illustrators | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
who could make information exciting. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
He was very clever in finding artists | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
who were really good at getting their detail right. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
The detail had to be spot-on, with the clothing, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
of background buildings and so on. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
And the pictures had to be really interesting compositions - | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
absolutely packed full of stuff happening. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
As each new series of books went ahead, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
so new artists turned up at the Stratford house. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
For the People At Work series, Keen brought in John Berry, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
a former war artist with a very photographic eye. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
John Berry was exceptionally good at working very accurately. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:54 | |
So, if there was any technical books, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
my father would ask John Berry to do the illustrations, | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
because he knew that he loved | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
working with that detail of accuracy. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
I remember John Berry as being one of the most exciting of the artists. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:10 | |
He was quite an exuberant Cockney. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
He stayed overnight on several occasions. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
My sister remembers taking him a cup of tea one morning | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
and seeing him sitting up in bed bare-chested and smoking. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
And I think this image has stayed with her! | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
Douglas Keen's younger daughter Caroline | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
was photographed by the illustrator Harry Wingfield | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
who used her as the model for Magnets, Bulbs And Batteries | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
and The Lord's Prayer. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:36 | |
The Lord's Prayer came first, | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
I was about nine or ten | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
when Harry Wingfield came down and photographed me for that one, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
and then that followed on with the Science series. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
A number of illustrators came from the Eagle comic, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
including the brilliant creator of the Dan Dare strip, Frank Hampson, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
who brought a rather sinister frisson | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
to the Ladybird Books Of Nursery Rhymes. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
Frank Hampson saw things from the most peculiar angles. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
So, you'll have pictures of the three blind mice, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
and you're looking from the floor up at the mice. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
You know, Doctor Foster, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
terrifying character floundering in your eye line to the water. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
One of the most prestigious artists Keen employed | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
was Charles F Tunnicliffe, a Royal Academician | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
who was invited, in the late 1950s, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
to create a series of books about the countryside. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
I was surprised... | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
..to see Charles Tunnicliffe in a Ladybird book, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
because I always knew him as a wildlife artist. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
And it was one of the first times that I realised that serious artists | 0:26:48 | 0:26:53 | |
also were illustrators. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
What I liked about these was that the scenes were very real. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
And within the Ladybird book, given what it needed to achieve, | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
which was to have a diversity. I mean, look at this one here. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
You've got a couple of tree species, you've got beech and oak. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
You've got some ferns. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:18 | |
You've got at least three or four species of fungi. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
You've got some pheasants on the fence. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
This isn't something that's been done casually in five minutes. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
Tunnicliffe has put as much effort into this illustration | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
as he did any of his greater works. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
This one here is one of my favourites. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
It's from What To Look For In Winter and it shows a seed drill. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
But the thing that I absolutely love about it | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
is the perspective that Tunnicliffe has adopted. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
And I think it's just stunningly original because it's seen | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
from the wood pigeons' perspective. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
Tunnicliffe's illustrations for the What To Look For series | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
were not simple representations of the countryside. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
They were painted with a much more knowing eye. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
The '50s and '60s were a period of rural upheaval. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
They marked the changeover from the old agricultural ways to the new. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
-REPORTER: -'Each field is tested daily, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
'the crops' tenderness is scientifically measured | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
'and the peas are gathered at the moment of maximum sweetness. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
'So, automation extends to the farm | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
'and it's your dinner table that benefits.' | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
These sweeping changes were a much-debated topic. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
Modernisers argued that factory farming was the future. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
Traditionalists lamented the passing of the old ways. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
Tunnicliffe's illustrations told children that both could coexist. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:42 | |
The question of where mechanisation fits into rural life, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
and whether, actually, it's a natural part of rural life | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
or whether it's some kind of alien, urban intrusion into rural life | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
is a really hot issue at this time. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
One of the things which the What To Look For books were trying to do | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
was to suggest that nature and farming went hand-in-hand together. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
So, it seems to me the seed drill | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
harmonises perfectly with the rural scene. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
It's these soft, muted blue and grey colours. The brown of the fields, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
look at the brown of the man bending over the seed drill. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
So, it's a vision of perfect harmony, and in many ways, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
I think that was actually really quite innovative, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
because it's not just taking a nostalgic view of the countryside, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
but trying to come to terms with the real facts of change | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
in the countryside. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:26 | |
This is really all about justifying the ways of modern farming | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
to Ladybird readers. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
What To Look For In Winter | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
was followed by What To Look For In Spring, Summer and Autumn. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
Each book, a seasonal snapshot of small facts. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
Spring is when deer have their young. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
Autumn is when whooper swans migrate. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
"The lake is partly frozen. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
"Where the water has been kept in motion | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
"by the swimming movements of the ducks, | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
"ice has not been able to form, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
"and so they have made for themselves pools | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
"in which they can dive to look for things to eat. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
"Standing on the ice are mallards - both drakes and ducks. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
"In the pool near, are widgeon, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
"and in the distance, tufted duck. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
"These birds move about in flocks in winter, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
"from one pond or lake to another, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:23 | |
"and often, the flocks mingle." | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
Published in the heyday of primary school nature corners | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
and weekend family rambles, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
these books were all part | 0:30:34 | 0:30:35 | |
of helping children stay in touch with the land. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
I saw a TV programme once | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
where children thought milk came from milkmen. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:47 | |
They didn't know it came from cows. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
So, there was probably an earnest feeling, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
on the part of Ladybird - who, at heart, are educators, | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
as well as storytellers - | 0:30:58 | 0:30:59 | |
to show children what the countryside is like. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
And Tunnicliffe... | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
was a perfect choice for that, | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
because Tunnicliffe understood the countryside. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
He was a country man. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
He was a country man at heart. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:13 | |
As more and more titles were devised, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
more top-flight illustrators | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
lent their creativity to the Ladybird brand. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
Martin Aitchison was a master of character, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:31 | |
Ronald Lampitt had an eye for landscape and maps, | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
Frank Humphris could capture every detail of the Wild West, | 0:31:34 | 0:31:39 | |
and Robert Ayton and G Robinson | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
made children just love making things. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
Douglas Keen now found himself at the heart of factual publishing | 0:31:52 | 0:31:57 | |
at a very exciting time. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
So much was being built and invented and discovered | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
that books explaining what was going on were in demand | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
by children fascinated by the promise of the future. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
Not that everyone thought that this was a good thing... | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
Good evening. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:15 | |
Christmas, you may have heard, is coming. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
And probably some millions of dads and mums and uncles and aunts | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
all over the country are now thinking about children's books. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
But out of the thousands of books laid before us | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
for children at Christmas time, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
do we really know any more what the modern child wants to read? | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
Are the old classics, Treasure Island and Kidnapped | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
and Little Women and Black Beauty and so on still favourites? | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
Douglas Keen had his own response to that. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
In 1964, he launched a fiction series | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
featuring old European fairytales. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
They were retold in classic Ladybird style. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
"Once upon a time", well, that's always a good way to begin. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
"There was a little girl called Cinderella. Her mother was dead, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
"and she lived with her father and her two elders." | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
I mean, that's absolutely it. Bang, bang, bang. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
"When the dwarf caught sight of Snow-White and Rose-Red, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
"he shouted, 'You ugly creatures! | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
"'Why do you stand there staring instead of trying to help me?'" | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
And he is horrible, by the way. He is just horrible. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
He used to scare me. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
"Cinderella's elder sisters were beautiful and fair of face but, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
"because they were bad-tempered and unkind, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
"their faces grew to look ugly." | 0:33:23 | 0:33:24 | |
An Orwellian perception, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
as it turns out. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:28 | |
The Well-Loved Tales series | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
is a bit of a phenomenon, honestly, I think. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
Adored, strangely adored by... | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
sort of two or three generations of people who grew up with them. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
My daughter, when she was tiny, had this edition, | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
which ended up like lots of her Ladybird books, | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
with the spine dropped off, | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
and the pages became a bit dirty | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
and there was often cornflakes and things stuck in there. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
But this is just evidence of a child loving a book, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
having it, using it. It was just a wonderful toy. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
"The ugly sisters made Cinderella do all the work in the house. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:14 | |
"She carried coal for the fire, cooked the meals, | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
"washed the dishes, scrubbed and mended the clothes, | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
"swept the floor and dusted the furniture. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
"She worked from morning till night, without stopping." | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
To write the books, | 0:34:28 | 0:34:29 | |
Keen hired an educationalist called Vera Southgate. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
Her task was to render each fairy tale down to 26 small pages. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:38 | |
What's important to a child is not quite what's important to an adult. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
You know, major plot points, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:43 | |
you have to reach all those milestones, | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
but you also have to say things like, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
"Snow-White and Rose-Red kept their mother's cottage | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
"so clean and tidy that it was a pleasure to go into it." | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
And immediately, you're there in this perfect little world, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
and that's very important | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
for the interruption of the advent of evil into it. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
It's such an art, keeping the right level of detail | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
without sort of clogging up the train of thought or the narrative. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:10 | |
And staying within your 56 or whatever page...boundaries... | 0:35:11 | 0:35:16 | |
I shouldn't open these books, while I'm talking, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
because I lose the thread because I start reading! | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
The series was shared between two illustrators, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
Eric Winter and Robert Lumley. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
They stuck to the Ladybird formula | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
of the picture helping the words along for young readers. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
I was talking to somebody recently who was being very snippy | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
about the illustrations, and I think lots of people are snippy | 0:35:42 | 0:35:47 | |
who didn't grow up with the pictures. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
Saying that they're too graphic, they're too visual, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
they leave nothing for the imagination. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
Realistic illustration is good for very young children, | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
because they are not good at interpreting pictures. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
But for pictures to look as if they're like photographs - | 0:36:01 | 0:36:07 | |
real people - a child immediately homes in on that | 0:36:07 | 0:36:12 | |
and can understand and read the illustrations perfectly clearly. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
I can just remember looking at | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
a picture of Cinderella weeping into her handkerchief | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
and thinking this was just such a beautiful picture, | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
and I remember asking my mum, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
"Why is the Mona Lisa a famous picture and not this picture? | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
"Why do people queue to see the Mona Lisa | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
"and nobody queues to see that? Why?" | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
The '60s was a period of wild innovation in book illustration. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
Artists like Brian Wildsmith, Ralph Steadman and Quentin Blake | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
became known for their unique styles. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
But I don't think that you could look at one of these and say, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:56 | |
"Oh, there is a... | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
"Hmm... Eric Winter..." | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
in the way Wildsmith or people like Ralph Steadman. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:06 | |
At Ladybird, all illustrators and authors | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
were entirely at the service of the brand. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
And the thing I've only just noticed about all these Ladybird books - | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
with the Well-Loved Tales, especially - | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
is that they don't have any author on the outside. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
And I think they were... | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
Yeah, they were all retold | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
by Vera Southgate - MA BCom - on the inside. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
I presume... Again, it's the branding, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
it's THIS that you're looking for, | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
and this bit is the bit you trust, and...and want to find. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
The Well-Loved Tales added to the growing library of Ladybirds. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:50 | |
Every week, tens of thousands of them flew into the bookshops | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
and then out again almost as quickly. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
Ladybirds were sold, not just in bookshops, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
they were sold in corner stores, chemists... | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
Places where people went to do other things. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
So, a kid would have their pocket money, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
or they would be there with their mother or father or their granny, | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
and they'd pick up a Ladybird book. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
It would be something that a lot of people did once a week. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
After all this time, a Ladybird book still cost | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
just two shillings and sixpence. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
It was important because two and six was a single coin, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
and it was what a lot of children got for their pocket money. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
I did, at that time. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:32 | |
With the price so low, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:33 | |
the way publishers Wills & Hepworth made money | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
was by sheer volume of sales. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
There are about 700 of them or so, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
so there were an awful lot to choose from. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
And people collected series. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
Once you got one, you got another one, | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
and then you put them together on shelf, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
and I'm OCD, and probably always have been, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
so then it meant having another one, and another one, and another one. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
Then you had your wildlife section, | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
then you had your history section, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
and then you had your science section - | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
weather, and other stuff like that, you know? | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
And then, there were a few oddities - Underwater Exploration, | 0:39:06 | 0:39:10 | |
and The Seashore which fitted in. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
And I liked having a whole stack of MY books together. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:17 | |
Producing such a wide array of titles was a lot of work. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:22 | |
With so many books to proofread and check for error, | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
Douglas Keen once again roped his family in to help. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
My mother used to proof-check books, and I used to, as well. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
Right from the original stage when you'd have the first...the text, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
just sort of type-written out on big A4 sheets, | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
and then you'd have the pack of drawings | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
that would come through from the artists. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
And we'd go through and I'd be looking at the texts, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:48 | |
looking at the illustrations, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
making sure that they all tallied. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:51 | |
And... | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
Yeah, I'm sure it was very good for my reading! | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
For anyone who loved and worked with books as the Keens did, | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
illiteracy was an unimaginable handicap. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
But then, as now, some children found reading extremely difficult. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:11 | |
Mother thought I'd just be able to sit down and start to read, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
just like that, without any trouble at all, | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
but it came as a big surprise to me when I found I couldn't. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
Research was highlighting that 10% of children | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
were failing to read by the time they left primary school - | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
a matter of concern for all involved. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
I've been studying this over the past six years, | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
and I find, quite conclusively, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
that children who are very backward at the age of seven | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
remain backward throughout their school life, | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
no matter what is done about it. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
The determination to help | 0:40:51 | 0:40:52 | |
what were then known as "backward" or "remedial" children | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
was such that there was no shortage of learning schemes. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
Hopes were high for one new concept | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
called the Initial Teaching Alphabet or ITA. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
Yesterday, in the House Of Commons, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
the Minister Of Education Sir Edward Boyle, gave ministerial approval | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
to an experiment that, in the years to come, | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
could well affect the life of every child in the country - | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
the use of a new alphabet. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
Now then, I'm going to try some harder words now, | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
let's see if you can get these. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
What about that one? | 0:41:22 | 0:41:23 | |
ALL: Nymph. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
-Nymph. -Nymph. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:26 | |
Nymph. That's right. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
And this one? | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
ALL: Soldier. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
Ladybird printed some of their books using ITA, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
though not with any great conviction, nor in any great number, | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
and they did not sell well. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
ITA was just one of many fashionable theories being tried out. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:48 | |
Each class I went to seemed to have a different idea | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
of teaching me to read than the other | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
and I kept on getting mixed up. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
They were all very helpful, | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
but they just had these different ideas of how to teach to read. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
A man called William Murray was also looking for a clear way forward. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:06 | |
Murray was headmaster of a remedial school in Cheltenham | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
working with young delinquents - | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
nearly all of whom had literacy problems. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
He was at the sharp end, | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
because he was teaching young men who had failed. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
And you had to find ways of getting through to these young people, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:25 | |
and then, what should they be learning, then? | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
What are the most used words? | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
William Murray and his colleague, Joe McNally, | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
found that, in the English language, there are... | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
-CHILD: -..400,000 words... | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
..but most of us use only... | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
-CHILD: -..20,000 words... | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
..in everyday speech, and of these, just... | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
-CHILD: -..300 words... | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
..are the most common. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
But the killer finding of their research | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
was that you could narrow down the amount of words needed | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
to begin to read to just 12. | 0:42:58 | 0:42:59 | |
-CHILD: -Only 12?! | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
Yes, 12 key words make up 25% of a child's vocabulary, | 0:43:02 | 0:43:07 | |
which was a breakthrough piece of research. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
And soon after this, at an education conference, | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
William Murray met Douglas Keen. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:21 | |
My father learned about the Key Words concept from William Murray, | 0:43:22 | 0:43:27 | |
and was very attracted to that idea because it had an aura of... | 0:43:27 | 0:43:32 | |
A scientific basis for something | 0:43:32 | 0:43:36 | |
which could become a commercial reality. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
After much discussion, Keen and Murray came up with an agreement. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:45 | |
From 1964, Wills & Hepworth would roll out 36 titles - | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
three for each of the 12 stages of the Key Word Reading Scheme. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:53 | |
A huge commitment. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
It was such a risk | 0:43:56 | 0:43:58 | |
because of having to publish so many titles all in one go | 0:43:58 | 0:44:03 | |
and take a leap of faith that this was going to be a scheme | 0:44:03 | 0:44:07 | |
that teachers were going to say, "Yes, this is the right one." | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
This was the way to teach children. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:12 | |
Another issue was that 12 words don't make a story. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
So, the scheme was made workable | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
through the idea of a domestic setting. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:22 | |
Two children, Peter and Jane, | 0:44:22 | 0:44:24 | |
and their faithful red setter, Pat the dog, | 0:44:24 | 0:44:28 | |
led the familiar Ladybird lifestyle, | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
a glorious version of normality. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
It was Harry Wingfield who first painted the world of Peter and Jane, | 0:44:34 | 0:44:38 | |
and then other Ladybird illustrators, | 0:44:38 | 0:44:40 | |
chiefly Martin Aitchison, | 0:44:40 | 0:44:41 | |
were brought in to help with the workload. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
There is no artist like Martin Aitchison, I think, | 0:44:46 | 0:44:48 | |
for being a chameleon. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:49 | |
And those first pictures of Wingfield, | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
Martin then took up the baton and... | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
..you know, even if you're very accustomed | 0:44:56 | 0:44:58 | |
to looking at the artwork, he did a very, very good job. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:01 | |
In the early books, the pictures worked harder than the words, | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
but the main thing was they worked. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
You read the pictures just like you read the words. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:17 | |
Peter. Peter. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
The child will know that's Peter. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
Now you know the principle, | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
so now you know that's Jane, | 0:45:28 | 0:45:32 | |
so now you know what Jane looks like, the word looks like. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:37 | |
And that very simple basis, I suppose, | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
is the basis of all reading, | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
recognising a word and understanding what it stands for. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:45 | |
Here is Peter and here is Jane. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:52 | |
Peter is here and Jane is here. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:57 | |
It was tremendously successful. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
I grew up learning to read with Peter and Jane. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
Everybody my age did. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:06 | |
For decades, Peter and Jane were synonymous with learning to read. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:11 | |
-What... -Yes. -..will... -Mmm. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:15 | |
..you...do, | 0:46:15 | 0:46:19 | |
-read or... -Yes. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:23 | |
..draw? | 0:46:23 | 0:46:25 | |
Well, the reaction was enormous | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
because the books were selling so quickly | 0:46:27 | 0:46:31 | |
and it was taken on in schools but also it was very, | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
very popular with parents. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:36 | |
It was very accessible and within no time at all, well, | 0:46:36 | 0:46:40 | |
fairly quickly, we were talking about millions of books being sold, | 0:46:40 | 0:46:45 | |
rather than tens of thousands of books being sold. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
I think people actually undervalue the role they played in the | 0:46:50 | 0:46:54 | |
literacy of that era. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:56 | |
How fundamentally they were wrapped up with concepts about | 0:46:56 | 0:47:00 | |
learning to read. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
Peter and Jane were more successful | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
than Douglas Keen could have dreamt. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
Ladybird's yearly turnover leapt from £1 million to five million. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:13 | |
By the late '60s, | 0:47:13 | 0:47:15 | |
over half the primary schools in Britain were using them to | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
teach literacy and the scheme was launched in other languages. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:21 | |
The whole Peter and Jane series was produced in Welsh | 0:47:21 | 0:47:26 | |
and then in Irish and in Gaelic. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:31 | |
And a range of titles whose content could translate to other cultures | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
were published abroad as well. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
All sorts of languages were produced. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:39 | |
They were sold in Afrikaans, there was Maltese, there was Serbian. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:43 | |
At home, the brand was now part of the culture. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:46 | |
Everyone knew the books and what they stood for. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
Ah, Betty, this flying book has got all the pilots' language in it. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:54 | |
Negative, positive, affirmative. I'm going to learn all this. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:58 | |
In Parliament, Mr James Plaskitt MP taunted | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
a member of the opposition, saying, "I can conclude only that | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
"he's misread his Ladybird book of economics." | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
Here, here. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
Apocryphal stories began to circulate about the use of | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
Ladybirds in the grown-up world. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
I know for a fact that people who, in their professional lives, have | 0:48:16 | 0:48:20 | |
used Ladybird books to learn how to do things, computing for example. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:26 | |
The hovercraft is used by technicians on the hovercrafts now. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:30 | |
The Understanding Maps book was indeed used by the Army in | 0:48:32 | 0:48:35 | |
the Falklands War for teaching map reading to soldiers. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:39 | |
Even the police were rumoured to have taught cadets car maintenance | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
with a Ladybird book. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
In 1971, Wills & Hepworth changed its name to Ladybird Books Ltd | 0:48:49 | 0:48:54 | |
and two years later, when sales reached 20 million books a year, | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
Keen and the other directors sold the company. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:01 | |
My father didn't want to leave it until he was 65. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:05 | |
He wanted to retire a little bit before then, | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
simply because he wanted to have time to do some of the things | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
that he was so interested in doing. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
With Keen gone, what would happen to the brand that had been | 0:49:14 | 0:49:17 | |
so much his personal vision? | 0:49:17 | 0:49:19 | |
The answer was not long in coming. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
Once Long & Pearson took over, | 0:49:22 | 0:49:26 | |
there was an initiative to use different typefaces, | 0:49:26 | 0:49:33 | |
to use more cartoon-like forms of illustration, to use sitography. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:38 | |
They became much more uniform. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:43 | |
They sort of lost that individuality that the artists could bring them | 0:49:43 | 0:49:47 | |
and they became just very sort of quotidian objects. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:51 | |
They just looked like anything. They looked like a catalogue. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:53 | |
They looked like a leaflet you could pick up in a bank. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:55 | |
They didn't look like a lovely magical world any longer. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:59 | |
At the same time, the Ladybird generations were growing up, | 0:49:59 | 0:50:03 | |
their old books being given or thrown away. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
Once cherished, these were now looking rather tired and old hat | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
and the new owners of Ladybird thought that too. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:13 | |
In the early '80s, | 0:50:13 | 0:50:14 | |
they gave the Adventures From History series a modern makeover. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:18 | |
Pictures such as these have shaped the first images of history | 0:50:18 | 0:50:22 | |
for 13 million young people. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:24 | |
Alas, the vagaries of fashion are finally catching up with | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
L. Du Garde Peach and Ladybird are rewriting their history books. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:31 | |
These trenchant views are obviously thought too strong for today's youth | 0:50:31 | 0:50:35 | |
and his purple prose has been doctored to produce a blander, | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
more balanced view. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:39 | |
Peach on George I - | 0:50:39 | 0:50:41 | |
"He was a very stupid man and, as he never | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
"took the trouble to speak English, he was unpopular with everyone. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:48 | |
"As a king, he was completely unimportant." | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
Of the revised Peach - | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
"George I could speak no English and never bothered to learn | 0:50:54 | 0:50:58 | |
"and so his place at meetings of government ministers was | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
"taken over by a chief or prime minister." | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
Do you like Peach as a historian? | 0:51:04 | 0:51:06 | |
Yes, I have my doubts as to whether one ought to rate him as | 0:51:06 | 0:51:10 | |
a historian as such, or whether one perhaps ought to look upon him | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
as being a publicist. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:15 | |
But, for what he was doing, I think there's a lot to admire in the man. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:19 | |
What do you think he was doing? | 0:51:19 | 0:51:21 | |
What were these 13 million copies achieving? | 0:51:21 | 0:51:23 | |
Selling history. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:25 | |
So would your advice be to the publishers and to those who | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
think that Peach may be a little bit ripe here and there? | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
I think I would keep Peach because what the man was doing | 0:51:31 | 0:51:36 | |
successfully with 13-and-a-half million sales, was arousing | 0:51:36 | 0:51:40 | |
interest and that is something which I think must be kept. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:43 | |
By the 1990s, boxes of Ladybirds could be spotted in charity shops | 0:51:46 | 0:51:50 | |
and boot sales. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:51 | |
You could pick up a second hand copy for next to nothing, | 0:51:51 | 0:51:55 | |
which is when people started to collect them. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:57 | |
When my son was about a year old, | 0:51:59 | 0:52:03 | |
someone gave me a battered old bin bag full of books that they | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
were going to chuck out and in there were some falling apart | 0:52:06 | 0:52:09 | |
editions of I think Shopping With Mother and a Talk About book. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:14 | |
And I got them out and looked through them | 0:52:14 | 0:52:17 | |
and my son noticed the pictures and responded to them in a way | 0:52:17 | 0:52:22 | |
that he hadn't really responded to books before. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:27 | |
It was something about the artwork was different and my brain started | 0:52:27 | 0:52:31 | |
buzzing and I started thinking of more books and you read them | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
and you realise they're a series and you realise they're numbered and | 0:52:34 | 0:52:37 | |
you think there must be more books in the series and so it all began. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:42 | |
In my case it was fuelled by having children and wanting to | 0:52:42 | 0:52:45 | |
recreate that safety and security of the world in the books for | 0:52:45 | 0:52:49 | |
their childhoods and I felt that, by having lots of Ladybird books, | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
it gave me a very good reference point to try and be like | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
a mum in a Ladybird book. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:56 | |
In fact, my children used to resent it and come home from school, | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
if I was making scones, they'd go, "Oh, you're being Ladybird again!" | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
cos they just wanted to watch telly or get on the computer. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
They didn't want to do baking and that kind of thing, | 0:53:05 | 0:53:07 | |
so that is what impelled my own collecting and I think it's | 0:53:07 | 0:53:11 | |
interesting why different people collect different things, | 0:53:11 | 0:53:13 | |
what they want, what they're trying to find. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:16 | |
What I particularly love about collecting older Ladybird books | 0:53:16 | 0:53:20 | |
is seeing the way that they've been used. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
Seeing the fact that they've been given as | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
a school prize for something or, you know, | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
given to somebody from Auntie whoever with the date | 0:53:27 | 0:53:31 | |
as a birthday present. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:33 | |
It really gives them a history and shows how much they were loved. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
Many collectors are interested in rarity value, the books that | 0:53:37 | 0:53:41 | |
did not sell well so were not printed in any great numbers. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:45 | |
These can now fetch upwards of £2,000 each. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:49 | |
But, for another kind of Ladybird fan, the value is not about money. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:53 | |
The illustrations, once so faithfully done, | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
have become precious pieces of social history. | 0:53:56 | 0:54:00 | |
Tunnicliffe's pictures here which are of the countryside | 0:54:00 | 0:54:04 | |
are full of birds. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:06 | |
There's a picture I'm looking at now of a pond in winter, | 0:54:06 | 0:54:10 | |
which is meant to show bulrushes and reeds and elm trees. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:15 | |
Where are they now? | 0:54:15 | 0:54:17 | |
And a flock of about 30 coot floating around on this pond. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:21 | |
You'd have to go a long way to find as many as 30 coot, so this is | 0:54:21 | 0:54:25 | |
a picture of a world in important respects, in terms of the numbers | 0:54:25 | 0:54:30 | |
of birds in it and of the trees we see in it, can not be seen any more. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:34 | |
Look at this. The partridge. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:37 | |
Now, when this book was first written and printed and sold | 0:54:37 | 0:54:42 | |
and went into the hands of budding naturalists, | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
this bird was very common all over the UK. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
Sadly, it's very, very uncommon now. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
A lot of the jobs that are shown, like the pottery makers are gone. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:57 | |
They depict an obsolete sector of the working world. | 0:54:57 | 0:55:00 | |
There's one, In A Big Store, and it's a sort of old-fashioned big | 0:55:00 | 0:55:04 | |
department store that's shown and it has an entire sewing department. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:08 | |
It has a picture of lots of women on sewing machines saying, | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
"When people buy things in a big store, | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
"they sometimes want to have things altered because they don't fit, | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
"so the items are sent up to the sewing room to be changed for | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
"each individual customer." | 0:55:19 | 0:55:20 | |
Of course, that's completely... | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
I don't think any child now would have a clue that that had | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
ever been a possibility, so they're interesting from that kind of | 0:55:25 | 0:55:29 | |
social history perspective too now. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
The Ladybird books are very much of a kind of time. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
Modern agriculture has developed completely out of scale with | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
the traditional countryside, | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
so this was a kind of precious moment perhaps, a moment of balance, | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
when mechanisation and the traditional countryside did seem | 0:55:48 | 0:55:53 | |
compatible and that's, in many ways, I think much less clear-cut, | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
much less certain now. | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
Everyone who had Ladybirds as a child tells the same story. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:06 | |
They read their favourite book so often, | 0:56:06 | 0:56:08 | |
they became part of their DNA. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
When I look in this book now, | 0:56:11 | 0:56:13 | |
which I recently retrieved from my father's attic, it says, | 0:56:13 | 0:56:16 | |
"To Christopher, love your Gran and Grandad." | 0:56:16 | 0:56:19 | |
I can recall implicitly ALL of the drawings and if you were to | 0:56:20 | 0:56:26 | |
sit me down with a biro and say, "Go on, then, | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
"outline where the animals are and vaguely what they were doing," | 0:56:29 | 0:56:33 | |
I think I'd probably score about 70%. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:37 | |
It's very hard to recreate what it feels like to be a child, but | 0:56:37 | 0:56:41 | |
if anything can, it's opening up a Ladybird book that I knew well as | 0:56:41 | 0:56:46 | |
a child and it bypasses everything that comes between it. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:50 | |
Suddenly, I don't feel, I just sense the feelings I felt when, | 0:56:50 | 0:56:56 | |
as a six-year-old, I stared at that Ladybird book picture. | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
I can't imagine what the child would be like to whom these didn't | 0:57:03 | 0:57:07 | |
instantly appeal, | 0:57:07 | 0:57:09 | |
who didn't manage to find a favourite somewhere along the way. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:14 | |
And when you meet something like that in your childhood, | 0:57:14 | 0:57:18 | |
they become part of some of your most formative experiences. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:23 | |
What we take in as children, by and large, almost without exception, | 0:57:27 | 0:57:33 | |
is what we remember best because, like creatures, we are imprinted by | 0:57:33 | 0:57:38 | |
these things at a more fundamental level than is simply possible | 0:57:38 | 0:57:42 | |
in our later lives. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:44 | |
So, whether we like it or not, | 0:57:44 | 0:57:45 | |
and actually in this case we like it a lot, | 0:57:45 | 0:57:47 | |
there is a bedrock which has, in our minds, in our hearts, | 0:57:47 | 0:57:51 | |
which has footprints on it | 0:57:51 | 0:57:54 | |
and these footprints are the footprints of Ladybirds. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:57 |