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# And whisper that you love me... # | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
'Publishing giants Mills & Boon are celebrating their centenary in a way only they could, | 0:00:20 | 0:00:26 | |
'with champagne, red roses and semi-clad men with finely honed torsos. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
'All the ingredients for the classic romance stories on which they've built their reputation.' | 0:00:31 | 0:00:36 | |
I think all of my novels have, at least in some degree, quite a lot about truth and lies. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:41 | |
'My name's Stella Duffy, and the kind of events I get invited to | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
'are usually a little more down-to-earth...like my novels.' | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
'I write literary, and crime fiction. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
'Traditional romance isn't really my thing. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
'But the BBC's set me a challenge... | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
'to write a Mills & Boon.' | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
What do you know about Mills & Boon? | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
Nothing! Nothing! I know nothing! | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
'It'll prove even more difficult than I thought.' | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
I can't do it! I can't do it! | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
'Along the way I'll be learning from the fans...' | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
I went to boarding school, and the Mills & Boon were like drugs. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
'And I'll get some frank advice from the experts.' | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
Where's the grit? You know, there's got to be the real grit of raw emotion here. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:23 | |
'But will it be enough to crack the secret of writing a successful Mills & Boon?' | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
I'm only singling out the couples, because I hate the couples, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:54 | |
the f... couples, the f... kissing, smiling, simpering, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
love you, love me, make our baby, we'll be a family, couples. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
'I've written 11 novels and they're all fairly realistic about modern relationships...intentionally so. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:09 | |
'The images that Mills & Boon conjure up for me | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
'are of doe-eyed virgins submitting to men in slacks, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
'as if the delights of Girl Power never happened.' | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
Everything's going to be all right. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
'I'm really not sure how best to approach this. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
'But if I've got any chance of making it as a romance writer, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
'I'd better get some sensible advice. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
'I'm off to Romance HQ to meet one of Mills & Boon's editors, Maddie Rowe.' | 0:02:34 | 0:02:39 | |
-Hello. -Maddie? | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
Yeah. You must be Stella. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:44 | |
Hi, come this way. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:45 | |
That is a very large pile of books you have there. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
-Isn't it? -Talk me through them. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
-So, the whole point is, I have this challenge. -Hmm... | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
-I see it as a challenge rather than an obstacle. -An opportunity! | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
Yes, opportunity, good! | 0:03:01 | 0:03:02 | |
I have this opportunity to try and write a Mills & Boon novel. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
-Do you call them novels or books? -Books. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
Books. A Mills & Boon book. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
And I don't know how to do it. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
-OK. -What really makes a Mills & Boon? | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
-A sexy hero. -Yes. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
Very, very, very sexy. Ruthless, powerful, arrogant, preferably. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
A feisty heroine who can hold her own with him and really intense emotional conflict, based on passion. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:27 | |
-Right. -That's it. After you've got those three things going on, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
you can put it within any of our sub-genres, but those are the three key. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
What are the things I can't...? I have got a list. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
What are the things, OK? Am I allowed to have drunkenness? | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
-Yes. -Oh, good, because I can write drinking, that's good. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
-Divorce? -Yes. -In all of them? -Yes. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
Fantastic! Bad language? | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
I think if the character really needs to swear, the character should swear. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
-Sex outside marriage? -Definitely. Lots of it! | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
Brilliant! Good. Which sort of finishes with, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
does she have to be a virgin? I guess it's no. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
No, definitely not, although, obviously, you can have | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
the ruthless hero explaining the ways of the bed to her. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
So, for the first-time writer, sending in their chapter, chapters | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
and synopsis, what is the likelihood of them getting published? | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
-We receive about 2,000-3,000 submissions a year. -OK. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
-And on a good year, which was 2006, we bought 20 authors. -Wow! | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
So, low, but possible. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
We do buy all the time. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
'If I'm hoping to become one of the chosen few who do get accepted by Mills & Boon, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
'I'd better read some of their books, and Maddie's given me a load to start with.' | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
Jennifer LeBrec, kind of a made-up name! | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
"She harrumphed." | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
Who harrumphs? | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
"Maddie Guthrie's nipples were hard, but her mouth was dry as she stared | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
"into the sea-green eyes of the man standing a few feet away. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
"He was tall and dark and dangerous..." So much, so Mills & Boon... | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
"A man she'd admired for his jungle cat reflexes, his steel-trap mind. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
"His tough body, honed to the physical specifications of an Olympic athlete. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
"Only Jack Connors was no athlete. He was an ex-CIA agent she often worked with on special projects. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:22 | |
"He gave her a small shrug. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
" 'If you want me to go in with you on this mission, you'll go to bed with me first.' " | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
-TANNOY: -'Change for the Circle Line via High St Kensington...' | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
Reading through the pile of books Maddie gave me, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
I was a bit shocked to see just how much Mills & Boon have raunched up. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
Their books now come in 12 highly-branded genres. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
Blaze are the full-on sexy ones, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
but for the more modest reader you've also got Modern, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
which always features wealthy alpha males and Hello! Magazine locations. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:52 | |
Nocturne, a new imprint with Buffy the Vampire Slayer-style supernatural romances, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:57 | |
and Medical. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:58 | |
Think Holby City but with sexier staff. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
Oh, no, that's ER. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
OK then, ER but...not. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
OK, so, like this one, Rebecca York's Body Contact, for me, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
there does feel like there's another sex scene every 10 pages. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
These are the ones that she said were full of a lot of sex. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
You know, I'm sure lots of people really enjoy this. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
And clearly, this woman is very successful at it, and people want to buy them. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
I'm just not really sure I want to write things that say, like, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
" 'God, you're magnificent,' he said, his voice so low, it was almost a growl." | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
"I knew your body would be like this, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
"feminine curves with underlying strength, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
"but I always wondered if you were a natural blonde?" | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
SHE LAUGHS HYSTERICALLY | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
That's fine. What I mean is, it's not possible for me to write that without knocking it. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:51 | |
You know, I can barely read it, without laughing at it. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
And certainly, reading them in the tube, was making me shy. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
And I have written fairly graphic sex, but it's not fantasy sex. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
When I've written it, it's been as real as I could make it. That's been the point. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
I think that I'll probably be writing this sort of "Modern" imprint, which is these ones. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:10 | |
They've got much more character. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
There's a bit of sex, but that's not the main thrust of it, as it were! | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
Unlike the Blaze ones. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
I think that might be more possible, because the character thing, I think, I can probably do. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:23 | |
I'm not sure I can totally buy into the alpha male who wins her over in the end, even though she's feisty, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:28 | |
and brilliant and strong, she gives in in the end. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
That's not because I think all women have to be brilliant and strong either. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
I find the idea of every single man being alpha male and every woman giving him in the end, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:40 | |
that would bore me to write that all the time. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
Why do you think women read these? | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:07:45 | 0:07:46 | |
Oh, this sounds really rude, I don't know. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
What is the secret of a good Mills & Boon book? | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
Well, I don't know, really, I just like 'em! | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
I think if you want a real genuine answer, you better go and ask Mr Mills & Mr Boon. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
I'm ever so sorry to interrupt, but I'm just getting to this dead good bit, I'm sorry, I'll have to go. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:06 | |
Mills & Boon, founded in 1908. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
Phenomenal success after publishing a steady stream of romantic fiction, written by women, for women. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:15 | |
Through the depressed '30s, reading became the favourite form of escapism. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:21 | |
The Second World War, says Mills & Boon, broke down the class barriers, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
both in the romantic world and the real one. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
Through the permissive Swinging Sixties into an age of increasing cynicism, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
the world has always been able to buy itself a happy ending. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
Well, I think it's because there are fewer happy endings | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
in life and reality | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
that our readers like to read about them. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
I suppose, really, we are probably the most profitable paperback firm in the world. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:55 | |
'Writing for Mills & Boon is a big deal. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
'They sell a book every three seconds. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
'So if I pull this off, I could be writing for an audience of millions!' | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
I'm Stella. Hello. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:05 | |
'But it always helps to have an idea of who the readers are, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
'so I'm meeting up with some real Mills & Boon lovers.' | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
So, you're the Mills & Boon super-fans. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
-Definitely. -Gillian, you're clearly, you know, something of a not just super, but super duper fan. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:20 | |
Be brave, tell me how much money you've spent on Mills & Boon in all this time. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:25 | |
I understand, although I haven't worked it out, but I understand from | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
Mills & Boon that I have spent somewhere in the region of £20,000, but I hasten to add, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:34 | |
that that is since the '70s, so that's 30-odd years, so that's not so bad when you look at it that way. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:41 | |
No, it's not, but some of those were probably only 50p back then. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
That's a lot of books! | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
I must admit that I usually read between 30 and 40, perhaps more than 40 books every month. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:57 | |
I'm like an addict. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
Tell me how you got into it? | 0:10:00 | 0:10:01 | |
Linda, what was your first Mills & Boon? | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
By first Mills & Boon was probably one of the older Modern ones | 0:10:04 | 0:10:10 | |
when I first had my children. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
I was probably about 19 and I had, sort of, my first daughter, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
then I had two others within the year, so I had three young children | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
and I didn't go out very often, so I used to subscribe to the reader service, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
and used to sit at home when they had gone to bed and just read those | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
cos I used to find it relaxing and that's how I got into it. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:32 | |
And I've been there ever since. That was 20, 25 years ago. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
What was your first? | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
I think my mother gave me my very first one. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
My mother was an English teacher, and I think as far as she was concerned, any book was a good book. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:45 | |
The other thing was, I went to boarding school, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
an all-girls school, and the Mills & Boon were like drugs. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
Basically, they were passed round. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
You'd find out who had the latest or had any and we would, basically, go off and go, | 0:10:56 | 0:11:03 | |
(have you got any?!) I do remember sitting on a beanbag during my A-levels in someone's room. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:08 | |
They revised while I read Mills & Boon. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
Did you pass? | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
Yes. I went to university. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
But I think it was just that relaxation, it's like, the world is | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
-stressful enough, I don't actually have to engage every part of my brain in reading this book. -Sure. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:22 | |
It's just the bit that stops me worrying. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
The last novel I wrote was a love story. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
A love letter to South London, which is where I live. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
For this one though, I'm going to have to stick to good old making things up. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
Well, that's a blank screen. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
That's a blank page. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
And that's a blank whiteboard. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
At least the basic principles are set in stone. Boy meets girl... | 0:11:47 | 0:11:52 | |
-I beg your pardon, I didn't catch your name. -Shaw. Teddy Shaw. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
-Mine is Chick Kirkland. Very pleased to meet you. -They fall in love... | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
-There's a bit of conflict in the middle... -Let me go! | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
Teddy! | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
Before the compulsory happy ending. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
-Chick? -Yes. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
I've got a backgammon board. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:13 | |
I won't have to write the happy ending. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
Like every first timer submitting to Mills & Boon, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
the first three chapters and a synopsis are all that's required. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
And I think I'm onto something already. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
This is my character idea. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
So you've got good twin... | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
Bad twin. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:38 | |
Good twin is looking for The One. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
Right? | 0:12:43 | 0:12:44 | |
Bad twin doesn't care. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
She's just a bit of a goer. Good twin is holding out for The One. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
I don't think she's going to be a virgin. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
There's not many of them in the Mills & Boons I've been looking at. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
Then you have the bloke. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
The whole point is, good twin is looking for The One in order to find her true self. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
Bad twin doesn't care, but she probably gets with him at one point anyway. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
Um...just because that's what bad twins always do. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
And I don't know, other than that, that's where it is. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
I did ask some friends what they thought they should do. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
My friend, novelist Victoria Routledge, suggested ice sculptress. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
And I really liked this, because I think you can start an interesting first chapter. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:31 | |
Good twin, right, is an ice sculptress, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
because you can... | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
Sculptress, let's spell that right. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
Because if she's in a cold, scary place, with a chisel and a hammer, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
it sounds like it might be a different kind of novel. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
And I do think they like that, from the ones I've read, they like them starting off in a way... | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
the historical one I quite enjoyed starts off like an Egyptian, going into a Pharaoh's tomb, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:55 | |
kind of story and then comes back to the traditional romance, so I think they might kind of like that idea. | 0:13:55 | 0:14:02 | |
Mills & Boon, I'll put a question mark there, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
because there's no guarantee they're gonna go for it. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
I know I can't afford to be too blase about this. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
Since I started my little adventure, I've discovered other experienced | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
writers who have tried their hands at Mills & Boon and failed. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
One of those who didn't manage is crime writer Mark Billingham. Maybe he can warn me about the pitfalls. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:25 | |
-OK, so... -Shouldn't you be writing? | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
Haven't you got a deeply passionate romantic novel to write? | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
That's the entire point of me coming to talk to you, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
so you can tell me what to do. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
Cos I've made a big success of it(!) | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
Yeah, you have. That's the whole point. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
Big successful crime writer, big successful stand-up. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
-Not such a big successful Mills & Boon writer? -No, a complete wash-out at Mills & Boon. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
-Why did you even think you wanted to do it in the first place? -I didn't think I wanted to. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
I thought, naively, I can do this, I can make money, it's easier than a paper round. What a doddle. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:58 | |
And it was anything but a doddle. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
-It was horrendous. -How far did you get? | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
About six chapters. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
That's a start. But they do tend to be about 30 or 40 chapters. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
It was a novella. It was a... a pamphlet is what it was! | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
It was a deeply sensitive romantic pamphlet. It was really hard. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
-Because? -Because there... | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
Because of the formula, because of the genre, because you don't care about it? | 0:15:18 | 0:15:23 | |
It is formulaic, but formulaic in a good way in that you can't be self-indulgent. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:28 | |
You can't just go, oh, I know, now I'm going to go into her | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
head and her family background. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
-You have to get on with the story that they want. -You've got to tell a story. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
That's always the problem with quite a lot of writing, isn't it? You've got to tell a story! | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
That's what writing is, isn't it really? It should be. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
-Don't you have to care about the story you're telling? -Yes. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
And if you're doing the Mills & Boon because you can, because apparently they make lots of money... | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
Then you're not doing it because you care. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
And I think that's gonna show. It's the same as anything. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
I'm sure most of the people who write Mills & Boon, whoever they are, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
and I'm sure you'll tell me who these mysterious people are, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
it's their job, but I'm sure they care about their characters | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
every bit as much as Ian McEwan cares about his characters. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
-Because otherwise you just can't do it? -No. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
-So are you actually writing to a formula when you set out to write a new book? -Erm... | 0:16:13 | 0:16:18 | |
no, never. Never to a formula. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
The only formula is, you have a man and a woman and a happy ending, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
which, after all, is what every man and woman is looking for. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
That's the aim in life, isn't it? To find someone you can love. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
Whether it's another man, another woman, or even a little doggy. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
I wrote a first chapter. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
And I got really excited because it wasn't the first chapter I thought I was going to write. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
It doesn't have the good twin, bad twin thing I thought it might have, although they might come in. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:56 | |
And it does very much have the ice sculpture idea. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
And just as I was getting all excited about writing that, I thought, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
she can have an old crumbling building, in the meatpacking district in New York, it's got a | 0:17:04 | 0:17:09 | |
freezer in it - because it's in the meatpacking district. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
The meatpacking district in New York's very groovy now | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
and everything's getting #done up and redeveloped. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
So she can have a developer to be the bloke who is her sort of nemesis, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
and therefore the one that she falls in love with in the end. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
A nice classic bit of Mills & Boonism. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
Then I suddenly realised that the ice sculpture she'd made was beautiful. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:30 | |
So she needed to kiss him. And when she kissed him, of course he comes alive. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
But she doesn't know that, we know that at the end of the first chapter. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
So I got all excited by that, partly because I like writing fairytale stuff. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:42 | |
A couple of my novels have been a bit magical. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
And partly because it wasn't what I thought I was doing. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
That's the bit I like best about writing - suddenly it's not what you thought you were doing. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:52 | |
And then that fits into their Nocturne strand, so that's OK. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
It's not like it's a completely irrelevant Mills & Boon idea! | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
It does actually fit into one of their imprints, a sort of modern Buffy style. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
So far, I've made a start on my plot. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
I've got a heroine I like, and I think she fits into the type that Mills & Boon want. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
Mills & Boon heroines can be everybody. The heroine's the reader's gateway into the story. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:20 | |
So as long as the reader can empathise, put herself | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
in the reader's shoes and want to be her, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:25 | |
anything at all goes. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
Which is great, because my heroine's an ice sculptor. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
In Mills & Boon, the heroine's traditionally been a working woman. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
I've come across air hostesses, nurses and even an undercover secret agent. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:39 | |
Any job where a girl can meet an eligible professional male. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:44 | |
Now I need to work on my hero. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
In the books I've read, the men all seem pretty much the same. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
They're the rich alpha male and they're usually in business. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
Here we have not mere millionaires, but billionaires, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
lots of tanned Europeans, and the ever-popular Sheik. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
Ordinary blokes need not apply. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
The Mills & Boon hero has to be very strong, very together, very powerful. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:08 | |
The kind of man that maybe would be difficult to live with on a day to day basis. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
But in a romance, he's just absolutely perfect. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
The hero of my last novel was a 67-year-old dry cleaner from south London - | 0:19:15 | 0:19:21 | |
hardly classic Mills & Boon material. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
How do you spell limousine? I don't think I've ever written "chauffeur-driven limousine" | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
in anything before, ever. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
Eleven novels, 30-odd short stories, half a dozen plays, I cannot imagine | 0:19:38 | 0:19:43 | |
I have ever written the words "chauffeur-driven limousine" | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
ever before. But it fits here. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
Matt Macdonald climbed out of a chauffeur-driven limousine | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
and looked up at the building in front of him. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
Unlike the others on the street, it had not yet had the Macdonald treatment. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
His firm took old buildings, run-down apartments, and turned them into modern palaces, | 0:19:56 | 0:20:02 | |
with cool lines, elegant architecture | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
and something that had come to be known as the Macdonald touch. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
Matt was nothing if not excessive. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
He was well known for his four perfect homes. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
Do you think four is enough? Shall I make it five? | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
"his five perfect homes." I know, we should add where they are. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
Eh... | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
"Three in the United States, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
"and two in Europe. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
His classic car collection | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
and the even longer string... even longer collection... | 0:20:32 | 0:20:38 | |
the even larger collection of beautiful ex-girlfriends." | 0:20:38 | 0:20:44 | |
How many words is that? | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
One hundred and thirty-two words. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
That's not bad actually. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:52 | |
You do that 10 times in a day and you're done for the day! | 0:20:52 | 0:20:57 | |
'Getting it all down on paper is one thing. Getting it done the right style is another. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
'How do I make it sound like a Mills & Boon?' | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
To find some answers, I'm off to Italy for something that feels a bit like going back to school - | 0:21:19 | 0:21:24 | |
a special writing course for aspiring Mills & Boon authors. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
And this week-long romance-athon is being held in Tuscany. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:36 | |
It will be useful to go to Italy and speak not only to Sharon Kendrick, the tutor, but actually I think it | 0:21:51 | 0:21:57 | |
might even be more interesting to speak to the other people who | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
are there because they want to write Mills & Boon. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
And write out your ending to this book. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
Sharon is one of Mills & Boon's most prolific authors, with worldwide sales of over five million. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:13 | |
We decided right at the beginning that Mills & Boon was no different | 0:22:15 | 0:22:20 | |
from any other writing in that you always write with integrity. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:26 | |
And lots of people try and write these books, and where they fail is they | 0:22:26 | 0:22:32 | |
write what they think | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
people want to read. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
We're working on a 12-point structure, really. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
We have a hero called Luca and a heroine called Ellie. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:46 | |
And at the end we know that this hero is going to end up with this heroine, and they're going to be | 0:22:46 | 0:22:53 | |
madly and passionately in love, but there's going to be a strong enough commitment between them that the | 0:22:53 | 0:22:59 | |
expectation is a happy ending. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
You must know your characters inside out. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
In truth, you want to make your character a three-dimensional person that will leap off the page. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:11 | |
This afternoon I'd like you to go away and to write the... | 0:23:11 | 0:23:17 | |
scene where the hero and the heroine make their commitment to one another, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
and this is like the huge emotional high point of the book. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:28 | |
So don't hold back... | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
Don't hold back on emotion. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
Just remember how you feel, how you felt in those moments where you think | 0:23:33 | 0:23:39 | |
all that love is going to come out, and you daren't hope that it's going to be reciprocated, and it is. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:47 | |
I'm writing the final scene of a Mills & Boon novel. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:19 | |
It's not the last scene in the book, it's the final scene in the story. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
There's a nice epilogue that goes into the future. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
He reveals he loves her, she reveals she loves him, all their past problems are out of the way. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:32 | |
And they cannot but fall into each other's arms in big love. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
As Sharon said, it's more heart than groin. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
So this is the big heart revelation. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
Have you written a scene like this before? | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
I think I probably have written things like this before actually, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
but normally when I've written the rest of the book. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
Or maybe at the beginning of a book and then everything goes wrong. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:56 | |
My books don't tend to end with this kind of a scene, | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
but I'm sure there's been things like that in them before. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
They do tend to go wrong quite soon after this bit. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
I don't think I'd be building up to this. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
But it's quite nice to write, and it's a lot easier than writing at home of where there's... | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
a phone and the e-mails and the mobile phone and the neighbours' builders getting in the way. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:20 | |
This is great. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
I could do this all the time. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
She realised now, perhaps too late, that the feelings she had for him | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
as a teenager had not died, just quietly gone to sleep, curled up inside her heart. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:47 | |
The river path stopped abruptly in front of the old loggia. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
She walked under the trailing vines, heavy with ripened fruit, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
through an open door into the main sitting room. Her heart lurched. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
Sitting behind a long, makeshift table were a group of workmen eating their midday meal. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:03 | |
And that the head of the table sat Luca. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
The look of surprise on his face mirrored her own. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
Before she could say a word, he was at her side leading her back out into the garden. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
-That's as far as I have gone. -Brilliant! | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
That's good. Well done, I loved it. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
Everything. The sort of... | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
The river... Because I hadn't thought of the river. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
The ripe fruit, that whole kind of way... You made it so real. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
It was fantastic. And I want to read on. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
Feelings curling up inside of you. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
Yes, that was beautiful. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
Which I'd never heard before. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
It was lovely, original, fantastic. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
Stella, would you like to read? | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
Luca paused for a moment to survey his handiwork. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
The water level, as high as it was, and the hill so steep there was no | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
way they'd be able to get earth-moving machinery up here without watching it sink | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
into the earth or worse, roll down the hill taking the driver with it. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
So the hardest of the work, moving old boulders from the stubborn earth | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
to create the new mill wall, had to be done by hand. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
Luca had been far more hurt than he'd let on by Ellie's refusal. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
Hurt and pushed into making changes. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
Luca was still working in the low field an hour later when the small, dusty rental car pulled up. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:14 | |
The first he was aware of Ellie's presence was something in the air. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
The scent of peaches and vanilla in the light perfume she always wore. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
He looked up to see her standing at the outside door. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
She was as surprised as he... | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
And as cold. "I wanted to say goodbye... | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
"To the mill." "Just the mill?" | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
She didn't answer and Luca repeated his question. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
"Just the mill?" She shook her head. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
"To be honest, I don't know. Maybe not, maybe I want to see you too." | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
Those few words were all the invitation Luca needed. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
He ran the 20 paces to where she stood, held her to | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
him regardless of the mud on his boots and the dirt on his hands. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
And then he was kissing her and she him. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
They were in each other's arms where they were meant to be, and he was whispering, "I'm sorry." | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
And she was saying, "I'm sorry," back. And then he was saying "Ti amo." | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
And she was saying, "I love you, my darling, I love you." They were saying the same thing. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
Well, I really liked a lot of it but the beginning bit, which was kind of like it was his internal... | 0:28:06 | 0:28:14 | |
His point of view. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
Saying about all the mistakes he'd made. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
That completely kills the suspense for the final moments. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:25 | |
The thing is, it's very interesting about the earth-moving trucks | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
coming up the valley and the actual logistics of the difficulty | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
of earth-moving, but that's not the kind of earth we want to see moving, do know what I mean? | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
You can't just start a scene. You've got to give all the back story. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
I know, but sometimes, particularly in these, 50,000 words, less really is more. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:45 | |
And really, the reader, to be frank, doesn't want to hear about earth-moving, not that kind. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:50 | |
She doesn't want to hear about the thrashing river. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
She doesn't want to hear... | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
She wants to hear the conversation between them that makes it absolutely clear in her mind | 0:28:55 | 0:29:02 | |
and in their minds that she loves him - whoever's going to make the first step - that he loves her. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:08 | |
And that it really... | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
They really mean it. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
I've never done that in my life, I've never shown anybody a completely rough first draft. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:17 | |
I think everyone was incredibly brave. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
She said nice things about some of the writing and people have written some really lovely pieces. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:25 | |
But, actually, people had written them - and I had - in prose. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
What Sharon was saying was that for Mills & Boon they don't want that, | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
or at least in her experience, they don't want that. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
What they are after is mostly dialogue where the two characters reveal themselves to each other. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:40 | |
That's very different, certainly different to the kind of stuff that I do where normally, | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
rather than having somebody say, | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
"I love you. I'm completely furious with you and I still love you anyway." | 0:29:46 | 0:29:51 | |
I'd want write that in a prose form with a little bit of dialogue | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
so that the reader could work out what was going on at the same time as the characters were. | 0:29:55 | 0:30:00 | |
I'm kind of rewriting the whole thing... | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
In dialogue. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
'All this seems a bit too much like hard work. Time to have a chat with the other students, I think.' | 0:30:13 | 0:30:20 | |
Ring up every week and say, "How are you getting on with that story?" | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
Jennie has already published five Mills & Boons, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
but given she's slightly closer to my stage than million-seller Sharon, | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
maybe she has a few tips. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:40 | |
If I have a core story I would say it's a woman who has nothing saves a man who has everything. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:47 | |
-And how does she save him? -By helping him realise what's really important in life. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:52 | |
-Right. And... -So he's giving her financial security? | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
Perhaps, but I also like her to be strong enough on her own where she could survive without him. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:03 | |
It's a choice. I think the financial stuff, the fantasy and | 0:31:03 | 0:31:08 | |
the glamour, that's really just the frosting, the gift wrapping. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
The really good stuff | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
isn't about the money, that's just the fun... | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
-wrapping paper. -What's the good stuff then? | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
The heart and the emotion | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
of believing that you can have that one special person | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
that will change your whole life and that it lasts forever. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
Yesterday you all wrote the ending of a book and we decided that it was slightly too soft, too romantic, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:09 | |
not enough passion, power and not enough dialogue. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
So just to quickly say a few things about dialogue. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:18 | |
What... When you are reading books... | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
I just think that... | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
the importance of dialogue is to make it - obviously, make it sound like something you would overhear. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:33 | |
To remember when you are writing dialogue... | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
The best way is to recapture conversations you've had with someone. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
In a way, that gives you a bit of practice because people do not speak in perfectly made out sentences. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:47 | |
They speak in short, snappy... | 0:32:47 | 0:32:51 | |
Often, particularly in moments of high passion, they will speak in cliches. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
So have you all written me a nice dialogue-y, punchy ending? | 0:32:54 | 0:33:01 | |
-Tried. -Tried something. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
-More or less. -Good. Perhaps you'd like to read it out to the group. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:09 | |
Luca was still working in the low field an hour later when the small rental car pulled up. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:14 | |
He was swearing so loudly in peasant Italian at the recalcitrant boulder that he didn't hear the sound of | 0:33:14 | 0:33:19 | |
knocking at the front door, nor the click clack of low heels against the stone floor. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
He did, though, hear Ellie's voice. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
"What you doing?" He looked up. She was there on the patio, her hand gripping the rusted iron railing. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:31 | |
He stared for a moment then answered, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
his calm tone only just masking the torrent of emotions beneath. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
"I'm re-planting your mother's garden. What are you doing here?" | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
"I came... The agent told me... | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
"Her letters... I didn't expect you to be here." "No, why would you? | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
"Arrogant, money-hungry tycoons don't need to bother getting our hands dirty with real work." | 0:33:46 | 0:33:51 | |
Ellie flinched at hearing the words she'd shouted at Luca repeated back at him. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
She knew she'd spoken in anger and have been regretting it for weeks. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
What surprised her was that he'd obviously listened. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
He started to walk out again and instinctively, Ellie put out her hand to reach him. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
"Luca, please... Everything that's gone between us, everything we've been through..." | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
"You want to be FRIENDS?" | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
His emphasis on friends left her in no doubt he didn't appreciate the idea. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
Luca turned, his arm raised. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
For a moment she thought he might actually slap her. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
He clenched his fist, punched the air in frustration, fury at | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
the rules Ellie had set for herself and his own inability to just let go. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
"God," he whispered, "Ellie, cara, ti amo." | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
He was holding her now, kissing her and she him, both of them sure, | 0:34:29 | 0:34:34 | |
Luca whispering over and over again, "Ti amo." | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
After a moment he felt her hesitating and pulled away. "What is it?" he asked. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
"Nothing, really," she answered. "No, say it." | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
Scared he would say no, shy that she was asking | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
a stupid question, frightened to push it away again, Ellie said, "Can you say it in English?" | 0:34:47 | 0:34:52 | |
And on bended knee Luca said, "I love you. Will you marry me?" | 0:34:52 | 0:34:57 | |
Stella. That was good, punchy dialogue. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:05 | |
But two things just screamed out at me | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
which I couldn't get rid of and it's just showing in a different way, as you know, the power of words. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:15 | |
The one that really jarred is when she said she actually thought he might hit her. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:20 | |
Because, you know, there is at no point in any book... | 0:35:20 | 0:35:25 | |
A Mills & Boon hero might be angry, he might be furious, | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
but he would never, ever, ever hit a woman... or a dog or a donkey. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:36 | |
I don't want to detract... The power of their dialogue was amazing. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:41 | |
You brought them to life and that's what I really wanted to explain the importance of. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:46 | |
Is that dialogue brings a scene to life in a way that narrative never can, in my mind. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:52 | |
Well, that went a bit better. Maybe six out of 10? | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
I'm keen to get back to my iceman story, | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
but before I go I need to pick Sharon's brains on one more thing. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
The sticky matter of writing Mills & Boon sex. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
Any hints for how best to go about it, given that I'm a first timer? | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
-Have you... -Writing a sex scene for Mills & Boon. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
How do you normally write sex scenes? | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
As graphically as possible actually, without being romantic. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
-Ah. -My choice has been, in my other novels, to be utterly honest about bellies and flab and... -Urgh. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:31 | |
-I know, I knew you wouldn't like that. -No. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
To try and do passionate and love realistically. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
OK, let's get one thing straight. There's no bellies or flab. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
The bodies are perfectly honed, just like ours. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
And, um... | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
Taut skin... | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
But I would just say don't write gratuitously | 0:36:49 | 0:36:54 | |
but write passionately and with feeling. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:59 | |
I think Stella is a very realistic writer and I think that one of the | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
problems for her could be that she may make her hero a little too real. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:26 | |
The kind of man who would be very concerned with the land | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
and all that it symbolises rather than just being completely concerned with his heroine. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:35 | |
But I'm really looking forward to reading her submission and waiting to see what the editor thinks. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:40 | |
I think I've learned a lot more about how it's done, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
and about how somebody who really cares to do it can do it. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
And I think that's great, and I love to know about narrative structure and things like that. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
They really appeal to me in my own writing. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
I also think it's really clear to me, not that it ever wasn't before, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
you have to want to do it, and I'm not sure I want to do this. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:15 | |
I don't necessarily want to know that everything's gonna end up happy in the end. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
I really do want to write real life and not fantasy. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
The grey reality of South London doesn't seem to have dampened my post-Italy enthusiasm. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
What's more, I think I've finally nailed the plot... | 0:38:44 | 0:38:49 | |
Sort of. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
We've got the... | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
ice sculptor, who's the heroine. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
Who makes an ice sculpture... | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
Who looks like he might be the hero because when he kisses him he comes alive | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
and she thinks he's lovely and they have a bit of passion. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
I'm not sure I'm going to put that in but that's the idea. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
And because every heroine protagonist needs a hero antagonist, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:15 | |
she gets to have the hero who is the classic Mills & Boon alpha male... | 0:39:15 | 0:39:20 | |
property developer who is wealthy and successful and a man | 0:39:20 | 0:39:25 | |
from her past, which means I get to have a flashback sex scene early on. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
I think Sharon quite liked them as a concept. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
So what that does, and this is possibly a little too complicated for | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
a 55,000 single line narrative Mills & Boon but I can't help myself... | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
You get a nice, classic love triangle | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
because she falls in love with the ice sculpture, who loves her back. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:46 | |
But we find out later that he is loving her wickedly, not purely. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
She does still love the hero property developer who she loved from the past. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
Then the hero property developer and the ice sculpture | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
have to fight it out to win her love in whatever way they can. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:02 | |
See? A nice love triangle. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
I'm quite liking the story but it still doesn't feel very Mills & Boon. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:19 | |
Despite having written two chapters, I'm finding it difficult to write what I think they want. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:25 | |
I reckon it is time to get some feedback from the one person I know who'll tell it to me straight. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:30 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
-Sharon Kendrick. -Sharon, it's Stella. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
-Hello, darling! -How are you? | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
I'm really good. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
-That's better. -Are you sitting down? | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
I have to ask you important questions now. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
Do you remember just as we were getting ready to leave Tuscany, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
I was telling you how I think at the end of my second chapter I'd just brought the two of them together? | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
You were horrified that I'd waited until the end of the second chapter to be my hero and heroine together. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:06 | |
Yes. Utterly. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
But I think it works really nicely, Sharon. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
You've got the whole first chapter about her and the whole second chapter about him and then they | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
come together and then you get a nice flashback in Chapter 3. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
It might work very nicely, but you won't be meeting reader expectations. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:21 | |
If you go out to buy a white shirt, you don't want a shop assistant telling you a blue one looks good. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:26 | |
OK, but is there never any place for surprising your reader? | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
Yes, of course in the freshness of intimacy of the relationship between the hero and the heroine. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:36 | |
There has to the chemistry right there early on. What are they called? | 0:41:36 | 0:41:42 | |
She's called Tyler Ogilvy. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
It's American. She's allowed to have that surname, first-name thing. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
Because he's Irish and Italian mix and because I've got him in the Tuscan hills, | 0:41:50 | 0:41:56 | |
he's called Matt Bonari. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
-I quite like those, yes. Good! -He's a property developer, which is why he's so wealthy. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:03 | |
What he puts into his properties as an extra thing at the very end, | 0:42:03 | 0:42:08 | |
he always adds what he calls the "Bonari Bonus". | 0:42:08 | 0:42:12 | |
It's like a studio or a swimming pool. ..Sorry? | 0:42:12 | 0:42:19 | |
The "Bonari Bonus"? Yes. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
Can I call it the "Bonari Bonus"? | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
-I don't like that. -Why not? | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
Because it sounds... | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
I think the "Bonari Touch" | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
would be better. To me it just sounds like something - some extra points to be gained down the supermarket. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:37 | |
No, no... | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
The "Bonari Touch" is a nice play on him also touching her. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
He touches her more than anyone else. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
That's fantastic. Brilliant, Sharon, now I've got a title. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
-That's marvellous. Thank you so much. -Good luck. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
Speak to you later, goodbye. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
Good. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
So...? | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
She doesn't pull any punches, that woman, does she? | 0:43:04 | 0:43:06 | |
No, that's terrible, don't do that! | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
The "Bonari Touch" is actually better. The "Bonari Bonus" | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
is definitely more of a joke. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
Obviously, as we know about Mills & Boon, you've got to look like you're taking it seriously. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:18 | |
I completely disagree with her in terms of what I want to write | 0:43:18 | 0:43:24 | |
about bringing them together in the first chapter. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
The problem is whilst I completely know that Sharon knows what she's | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
talking about, and I absolutely get it, and she says you've to get the | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
heroine and hero together sooner, that's what the reader wants, I understand all of that. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
But it's not what I want. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:39 | |
I think this would be the crux of the matter if I ever did try to write a whole one of these. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:46 | |
I want to write what I want. That's why I'm a writer. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
-Are you enjoying it? -I'm not enjoying it because I'm caught between wanting to do what I would like | 0:43:49 | 0:43:54 | |
to do and wanting to do what they say they want their writers to do. | 0:43:54 | 0:44:00 | |
And probably not succeeding with either, which isn't great. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:06 | |
No, Paul. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:08 | |
No, this can never be. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:11 | |
Not for us, Paul. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:13 | |
You and I are worlds apart. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
It cannot be. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:18 | |
I need some support so I've come to see Lauren Henderson, | 0:44:21 | 0:44:25 | |
a friend who writes all kinds of genre fiction. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:28 | |
She's bound to have some kind words for me. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
Isn't she? | 0:44:32 | 0:44:33 | |
I have to say you are probably the worst person to be writing this. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:38 | |
When I heard you were doing it, I seriously thought | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
you were going to have a problem with it. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:43 | |
You're not going to be able to do it in a sexy, ironic way. It's going to annoy you. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:47 | |
You can't be ironic. It isn't even allowed to be ironic a little bit. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
It has got to be just sexy because everybody | 0:44:50 | 0:44:53 | |
we talk to about Mills & Boon were saying they read them for fantasy. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:57 | |
I want to have them both taking charge. | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
I want to have them both being passionate. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:00 | |
This is going to be a disaster! | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
No, so far it's only a bit of a disaster. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:09 | |
Just think about this as a chamber piece. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
Think of it as an expanded short story. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:14 | |
I don't want to. I want to write a book with other characters and extra things happening. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:18 | |
-You're fighting this with everything you have. -I am. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:20 | |
I thought it would be simpler to go, "OK, I'm doing a format, I'll do the format." | 0:45:20 | 0:45:27 | |
You're coming across as being really... | 0:45:27 | 0:45:29 | |
I know, I know I am. No, I'm not. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
It's partly because I am taking the writing of it quite seriously. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:36 | |
As opposed to sitting there with a bucket of martini and just churning it out. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:40 | |
I think that's where you're going wrong. You want a nice gin pail. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:43 | |
And just scoop up some more. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:46 | |
I want to try and do it right and because I'm trying to get it right... | 0:45:46 | 0:45:50 | |
-I think you are thinking about this too much. -Maybe. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:52 | |
You're thinking about this too much and not drinking enough. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:55 | |
That and having a camera over my shoulder. It's not ideal. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:59 | |
Usually writing when drunk is something I would never advocate and there have been those times | 0:45:59 | 0:46:03 | |
in the evening when I have had a couple of drinks and thought, I have got a really good idea. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:06 | |
You wake at the next morning and it is... | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
In this case I think a stiff martini before work might actually... | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
You need to project yourself into that world and you're having trouble finding the magic door at the back of | 0:46:13 | 0:46:19 | |
the wardrobe that will help you walk through. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:21 | |
I definitely have every intention of a very strong vodka martini for the writing of the sex scene. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:27 | |
# Nothing's impossible, I have found | 0:46:27 | 0:46:31 | |
# For when my chin is on the ground | 0:46:31 | 0:46:35 | |
# I pick myself up, dust myself off | 0:46:35 | 0:46:40 | |
-# Start all over again... # -Do you want an olive? | 0:46:40 | 0:46:42 | |
"She'd never been in love like this before | 0:46:59 | 0:47:00 | |
"and though he was almost seven years older, she believed him when he said | 0:47:00 | 0:47:06 | |
"he hadn't either." | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
Maybe you should leave the room now. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
It's probably a little rude to look over somebody's shoulder when they're writing a sex scene. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:16 | |
# Work like a soul inspired | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
# Till the battle of the day is won | 0:47:19 | 0:47:23 | |
# You may be sick and tired | 0:47:25 | 0:47:29 | |
# But you'll be a man, my son | 0:47:29 | 0:47:34 | |
# Don't you remember the famous men | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
# Who had to fall to rise again? | 0:47:37 | 0:47:42 | |
# They pick themselves up, dust themselves off | 0:47:42 | 0:47:47 | |
# And start all over again. # | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
You can only use this if you are sober. I'm joking. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
"Back in his apartment, they rushed from elevator | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
"to door to bedroom, not seeing the walls, let alone the floor, not seeing anything until the bed. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:03 | |
"His body and her body fitting like they were made for each other, | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
"an easy fit, a smooth fit, a perfect fit, an "Oh God, I can't believe it can be this good" fit. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:13 | |
"They both burst out laughing and, looking deep into each other's eyes, said it again." | 0:48:13 | 0:48:18 | |
5,000 words, three martinis and a sex scene later, my supernatural- style romance is finished. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:27 | |
I'm fairly pleased with what I've written, but is it right for Mills & Boon? | 0:48:27 | 0:48:31 | |
I might just run it by some experts before Maddie, the editor, makes the final judgment. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:36 | |
"She turned back and blew a kiss to the beautiful ice man. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:39 | |
"She hoped the 16th birthday Princess would appreciate him | 0:48:39 | 0:48:43 | |
"when he stood at the centrepiece of her party table tonight. She certainly did. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:47 | |
"Tyler turned off the light and closed the freezer door. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
"Behind her, in the dark, the ice man smiled and blew a kiss in return. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:55 | |
"He rather appreciated what he'd just seen as well." | 0:48:55 | 0:48:59 | |
Oh, interesting. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:03 | |
I think it would fit very nicely into the Intrigue Nocturne series. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:07 | |
Absolutely. There wouldn't be a problem with the fact | 0:49:07 | 0:49:09 | |
that she is in love with and having sex with someone else not the hero? | 0:49:09 | 0:49:13 | |
Has she created the ice figure in his image at the back of her mind? | 0:49:13 | 0:49:18 | |
That's good. That's lovely. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
That would make it less of a... | 0:49:21 | 0:49:24 | |
And she doesn't realise that until later on. That is very nice. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:28 | |
Thank you. I like that. | 0:49:28 | 0:49:30 | |
That was the only bit I thought they might stutter at. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:35 | |
That she's having sex with somebody who is not the hero. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:37 | |
But if you make it that it's in his image, it is almost like... | 0:49:37 | 0:49:43 | |
If she can't have the real person, she's got the image. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
But she hasn't connected the two. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:52 | |
He doesn't see it until the end. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:54 | |
Also when he has to fight off the ice man at the end, he is fighting himself. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:59 | |
That's very nice. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:01 | |
Like a negative in a photograph. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:04 | |
I like that, because to me a lot of the Mills & Boon I've seen, he might save her financially or | 0:50:06 | 0:50:14 | |
from being too busy or not having enough time for emotion, but she | 0:50:14 | 0:50:18 | |
tends to be saving his heart, his soul. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
That would be quite nice, actually. Good, OK. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
That was great. They were really lovely, they were very kind. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:33 | |
But the best bit, they solved my entire... | 0:50:33 | 0:50:35 | |
"You're not allowed to have them meet at chapter two, it's got to be chapter one." | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
I'll make chapter one the prologue, chapter two, chapter one, chapter three, chapter two, | 0:50:38 | 0:50:42 | |
I'm going to cut my synopsis and make it a blurb, | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
then I'm going to make my synopsis to my narrative arc. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:47 | |
It's all fantastically sorted and the best bit, even though | 0:50:47 | 0:50:51 | |
I thought the synopsis was a bit too long for them, they went ooh, at the right bit, not, ugh! | 0:50:51 | 0:50:56 | |
so as long as they are going, ooh, I think at least I've got a chance of Maddie not hating it. | 0:50:56 | 0:51:02 | |
I've only got one more to go. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
So, with the last few changes made and a note | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
to Maddie saying "here you go", my Mills & Boon is ready to send. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:22 | |
I'm feeling very nervous about it, I haven't... | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
posted something like this for about 14 years. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
Also, these days, most people do it by e-mail. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:32 | |
Mills & Boon, unusually, still take unsolicited manuscripts, that don't quite fit! | 0:51:32 | 0:51:39 | |
There. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:40 | |
I expect she'll say no, and even though I expect she will say no, | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
I'll still be hurt and mind if she says no, | 0:51:47 | 0:51:49 | |
We don't like it, it's not our kind of thing. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:51 | |
Of course it would upset me. I'm a writer and I want everyone to love everything I do. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:56 | |
We all do, it would be stupid not to. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:59 | |
So, we'll see. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:01 | |
I'm leaving for a few days, when I return, I hope to bring interesting news. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:11 | |
The big day. And like any good Mills & Boon heroine, I'm all a-flutter. Will I get my happy ending? | 0:52:19 | 0:52:28 | |
So, how are you feeling? | 0:52:28 | 0:52:29 | |
Erm, more than a little bit nervous. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:31 | |
It's like that bit where you go to a doctor's to get test results, and they say, how are you? | 0:52:31 | 0:52:36 | |
And, let's chat. You go, just tell me what's happened! | 0:52:36 | 0:52:38 | |
So, I'm going to go in | 0:52:38 | 0:52:40 | |
and she will want to say, hi, how are you? | 0:52:40 | 0:52:42 | |
Be all nice and I'll just want to go, do you like my book or not? | 0:52:42 | 0:52:45 | |
Get on with it. But I will be more polite than that, obviously. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:49 | |
Hello, lovely to see you. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
You're so warm! It's freezing outside! | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
It's disgusting, isn't it? | 0:52:58 | 0:53:00 | |
Thank you so much for looking at it, Maddie, it's brilliant. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
No, it's great, loads of fun. Overall, I thought it was beautifully written, | 0:53:08 | 0:53:12 | |
wonderful to read and I was really excited about it. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
It's the first magic realist Mills & Boon that I've ever read in my entire life. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:20 | |
Where did you think you were aiming for, because we talked a lot about series? | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
Nocturne, maybe Nocturne Intrigue. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:28 | |
I truly did try and do a straight story. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
But, at the end of the first chapter, which was just the first chapter, because Sharon was so | 0:53:30 | 0:53:37 | |
certain you can't have your hero and heroine not meet until chapter two, that's just so bad and wrong. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:43 | |
The fans said, why don't you make the first chapter a prologue and chapter two chapter one? | 0:53:43 | 0:53:47 | |
-So you cheated? -So, I cheated! | 0:53:47 | 0:53:49 | |
It was the fans who suggested it, | 0:53:49 | 0:53:52 | |
so the end of what is now the prologue, | 0:53:52 | 0:53:54 | |
I would've just had her making an ice sculpture, | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
but then it just seemed so sensible that he kissed her back. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
So, well not sensible, but sensible in a magical kind of way and I had read a couple of the Nocturne ones. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:06 | |
So, I thought that, really. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
What I really liked about this was, the hero who is absolutely spot on, alpha male wonderfulness. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:16 | |
I thought you had a great sense of glamour and glitz and excitement. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:21 | |
I loved the Manhattan setting, I thought it was really, really, really well evoked. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:25 | |
This is very kind of languorous and beautiful, but I think when you're talking about 50 to 60,000 words | 0:54:25 | 0:54:31 | |
you might have to think about upping the pace. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:33 | |
You know that pace is so upped, compared to what it was! | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
I don't think I've ever worked so hard on three chapters, also I | 0:54:36 | 0:54:39 | |
haven't done three chapters and a synopsis since my first book. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
-As you said in your e-mail. -Yes, it's really, really daunting. | 0:54:42 | 0:54:44 | |
What about the sex scene? That was quite hard work for me. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
I did wonder about that, no, it was brilliant. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
It was properly sexy and I like the way you were doing | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
it in flashback as well which gave you an opportunity to do very happy, very uncomplicated, very sexy. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:58 | |
That was a three-martini sex scene. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:01 | |
Well, whatever it took, it worked. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
I did then edit it and make it tidy. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
-SHE SLURS HER WORDS -I did tidy it up. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:09 | |
But to write the first draft of it, was definitely, I will have a martini | 0:55:09 | 0:55:13 | |
to think about it after I'd been thinking about it for a week, then sit down and do it. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:17 | |
By the time I had taken four hours to write the thing, we'd gone through an entire martini shaker. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:24 | |
I do think you found your own way. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:25 | |
I was thinking, if this had come in the slush I would have been overjoyed, | 0:55:25 | 0:55:29 | |
because it's got an individual voice and great narrative drive and | 0:55:29 | 0:55:33 | |
I did want to know more about the characters, I would have sent for the next bit, had you written it. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:38 | |
-That's good. -Thank you very much. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
So, shall we go and have a pint of wine, to make me happy. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
A whole pint of wine? | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
We might have to share it. Is that all right? | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
I believe now, what you said the other night. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
So, the Mills & Boon epilogue. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:09 | |
You know, where our heroine looks back on her journey and reflects on what she's learned. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:14 | |
It certainly wasn't love at first sight. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:17 | |
But, sure enough, once she was swept off to a glamorous location, her heart started to melt. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:24 | |
There were some last-minute doubts, but, helped by alcohol, they finally got it together. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:32 | |
And our heroine was surprised at how much she'd come to care. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:38 | |
I tried to do the best I could, to do what they like. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:45 | |
It's not quite them, but at least she liked what I did and she liked it a lot, so that's really nice. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:50 | |
All the things I really believe are true, you should write what | 0:56:52 | 0:56:55 | |
you want to write and you should do it for yourself, not for a market or | 0:56:55 | 0:57:01 | |
what your perception of what a market might be is, because who knows what that market is? | 0:57:01 | 0:57:06 | |
According to Maddie, there's a dozen different markets for Mills & Boon, | 0:57:06 | 0:57:11 | |
so the idea there's only one that works is entirely silly. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:15 | |
ROMANTIC MUSIC | 0:57:16 | 0:57:18 | |
Overall, I think there's this vast appetite for fantasy and escapism | 0:57:27 | 0:57:32 | |
that maybe we don't all think exists. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:36 | |
Maybe we think it belongs to television or to film, or theatre. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:41 | |
Clearly, there's a huge desire for it in the Mills & Boon audience, | 0:57:41 | 0:57:46 | |
which is many millions of people. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:49 | |
Secure in the knowledge that our heroine has learned all she needs, | 0:57:55 | 0:57:59 | |
she can now go off into the sunset of a perfect life, happy, and fulfilled. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:06 | |
Well, more or less! | 0:58:06 | 0:58:08 | |
# I know a falling star | 0:58:09 | 0:58:11 | |
# Can't fall forever | 0:58:11 | 0:58:14 | |
# But let's never | 0:58:15 | 0:58:18 | |
# Stop falling in love | 0:58:18 | 0:58:21 | |
# No, let's never | 0:58:22 | 0:58:26 | |
# Stop falling in love. # | 0:58:26 | 0:58:28 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:58:28 | 0:58:31 | |
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