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Us Brits have a passion for property | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
and, of course, our national obsession is house prices... | 0:00:04 | 0:00:08 | |
How much to buy? | 0:00:08 | 0:00:09 | |
You're looking at about £1.7 million for an apartment like this. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
..but housing is about so much more than bricks and mortar. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:17 | |
Look at the smile on my face. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
It's about who we are, and how we choose to live. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
75 years since the Beveridge Report | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
vowed to rebuild Britain's housing... | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
Slums must go. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:33 | |
..we're opening the door to Britain's Home Truths. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
From council houses... | 0:00:38 | 0:00:39 | |
..to suburban semis. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
High rises... | 0:00:41 | 0:00:42 | |
..to country pads. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
In fact, anywhere we call home. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
To find out if, three-quarters of a century later, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
we really have built a better place to live. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
In my athletics and broadcasting career, | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
I've travelled all over the world - | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
but nowhere beats my home town of Cardiff. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
I guess that's why I still live here, in this very house. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
I love waking up here. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
I've even got a bit of a morning routine. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
Every single day I look out across this view over Cardiff Bay. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:32 | |
It's pretty cool, I must admit, | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
but it's a view I never knew existed when I was growing up in Llanedeyrn. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
It's pretty cool. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
I grew up in a very different part of the city, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
on the Llanedeyrn council estate on the other side of the bay. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
I often look at the view I have now | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
and I wonder, how did I ever get here? | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
Well, like many of us, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
the truth is that a lot of it is down to the foundations | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
that were laid where I grew up. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
As I flick through these pictures now, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
I think about where I am today and who I am today. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
That has a lot to do with growing up on a council estate, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
which, me growing up, I didn't know the difference, you know? | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
All I knew was that I had a massive house, a huge bedroom, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
in my opinion, and lots and lots of open space. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:24 | |
I remember my old three-bedroom council house fondly, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
which I shared with my big sister, Suzanne, and my mum and dad. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
Wow, my mum outside, looking after the flowers in the garden. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:37 | |
Now, a garden, again, was one of these things that was pretty rare, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
especially with grass, green grass! | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
I can remember my dad putting up this fence, actually. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
It was one of the first and last things | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
I most probably did with my hands as a labourer, if I'm honest. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
# Where's your mamma gone? | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
# Where's your mamma gone? | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
# Little baby boy... # | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
For my family, like many other working-class families | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
across Britain, it offered the chance | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
to escape cramped and poor quality housing, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
the sort my grandparents might have lived in, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
giving kids growing up in the second half of the 20th century | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
the chance to have a happy childhood | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
with places to play, and friends to play with. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
It's certainly no coincidence | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
that, throughout my running and broadcasting career, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
I've met so many people, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
some of them my idols and mentors, who have come from council estates. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
I know for sure that it provided the foundation | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
on which to build my own success. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
In the UK, there are 130 large council-built estates | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
of over 10,000 people, and lots of smaller ones. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
In this episode, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:45 | |
I want to pay my own tribute to these estates | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
and find out how much they've changed since the first one. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
First up, I've come back to my old estate, Llanedeyrn, | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
to my own particular patch. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
I'm a little bit nervous, and excited. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
It's been years since I paid the old place a visit. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
It's nice coming back home, though. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
It is, I must admit. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:09 | |
As I'm looking around and seeing the flats again, you know, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
it just brings back memories - | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
who used to live in the flat at those particular times, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
all the running up and down we used to do here, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
how I used to park my bike outside the garage, call for your mates... | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
It is pretty interesting to be back, actually, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
and to have a look around again. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:27 | |
Meeting me here is my big sister. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
She's also had quite a journey since growing up here, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
becoming a professional actor and starring in Brookside and Casualty. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
Oi! | 0:04:38 | 0:04:39 | |
Welcome home! | 0:04:42 | 0:04:43 | |
My darling! So, OK... | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
Hello! | 0:04:49 | 0:04:50 | |
-We're in Llanedeyrn. -Yes. -We're back on real home turf. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it was a well trodden path, this path. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
Going up and down to the corner shop, | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
which is not that corner... | 0:04:59 | 0:05:00 | |
-It's not that corner. -No, but it was for us, running up and down. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
But one of my biggest memories of this path is badminton. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:09 | |
Do you remember? | 0:05:09 | 0:05:10 | |
I always used to make you go down the hill | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
-so then it was easier for me to whack it... -It was easier for you! | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
Yeah. And then you'd have to do the running down. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
-I forget how green it was. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
-And you forget that the woods are just on the doorstep. -Yeah. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
This is actually where used to play the game Bulldogs. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
I don't know if you remember us kids tearing up and down this path here? | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
No, but I think it was... | 0:05:33 | 0:05:34 | |
-And this was the finishing line. -Oh, yeah. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
So once you came across this post here, it was safety for us. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
-So, here we are. -Oh, wow. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
Back to the old gaff. Anything missing? | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
Oh, yeah, the fence! Ahh! All Daddy's hard work! | 0:05:47 | 0:05:52 | |
-I know. -Oh, it's amazing. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
Shall we knock on the door, see if anyone's in? Be a bit cheeky? | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
Go on, then. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
What about the porch? Did we put this porch up? | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
We did put a porch up, but not this one. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
-You don't think it's this one? -No, it's double glazed. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
It just looks so much smaller. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
I don't think anybody is in. That's a shame. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
Do you remember having that really, really, really snowy winter, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
and we were out here, throwing the snowballs? | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
Mmm! | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
Even though it's been over 30 years since we've lived here. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
It's not long before we see some familiar faces. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
Our old neighbours. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:31 | |
You've come home! | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
Oh, my goodness! | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:06:39 | 0:06:40 | |
-Bless you! -Hello! | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
Your mum is one in a million. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
We got on so well as neighbours. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
-Yeah. -You know? You caused us no trouble when you were kids. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
You were good as gold. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
And you've turned out like this, the pair of you. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
-Troublesome! -From our hometown. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
You're absolutely wonderful, and your sister. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
Yeah. You've made Llanedeyrn proud. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:03 | |
You're a proud Welsh man, like everybody else here. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
-Brilliant. -Cheers, mate. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
I can't see you, but never mind. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
-All the best. -Ta-ra! | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
Now, what's the chances? | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
-What are the chances? -What are the chances?! | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
Gordon Bennett, that's amazing. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
Today has just been marvellous, is the only thing I can really say. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
Coming back to my real roots, this is where I grew up, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
this is where I was formed. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
This is where my ideas came from and I think, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
perhaps my ability to run. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
It's just really engaged me to find out a little bit more | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
what was happening right across the United Kingdom | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
in communities like this, on council estates, all around. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
Before I head off around Britain, though, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
I've decided to start my council house journey | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
a little closer to home, at Cardiff Castle, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
at what is probably the city's most famous council house. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
OK, I'm pushing it here, but it is owned by the state, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
and it's also a great place to take in the view. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
-It's pretty good, yeah? -Yeah. -Bit of a climb. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
Joining me is historian Lesley Hulonce. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
The thing is, I think that I forgot to tell her | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
-that I wanted to chat at the top. -Oh, my God. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:30 | |
I'm hoping that Lesley will be able to tell me how Cardiff, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
and other cities, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
looked after housing people before council estates like mine existed. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
I might have to wait a while, though, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
for Lesley to get her breath back! | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
-Oh, wow. -We've made it! | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
Hopefully, Lesley will get over the climb | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
by looking at these fantastic views. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
Beautiful, eh? | 0:08:53 | 0:08:54 | |
It's just a little too far, though, to make out my house. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
I'm just looking for where my council estate is, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
which you can't see because of the... Literally, the urban sprawl. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
But I would have been right, right outside of the edge of the city. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
-Is that the norm? -Well, taking people out of the city, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
it was considered healthier. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
So, before council housing, | 0:09:13 | 0:09:14 | |
what was put in place for people who were struggling a little bit | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
and fell on hard times? | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
Well, if you fell on really hard times, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
and you had nowhere else to go, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
you could always go to the workhouse. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
It was a place of last resort. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
It was a place the respectable poor never wanted to end up in. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
So the workhouse, I guess, was kind of the original council house? | 0:09:33 | 0:09:39 | |
It was a large council house, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
quite like this one, but it housed a lot more people | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
than this wonderful council house. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
I'm keen to find out more about the workhouses. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
So, sorry, Lesley, it's time to go back down. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
We're off to really get a sense of what it's like | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
to live in a workhouse by digging deep in Glamorgan archives. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
It's amazing how much information you can get | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
from the Cardiff workhouse records that are kept here. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
So these are the actual people who found themselves in the workhouse | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
during the Victorian period. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
There's so many. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:21 | |
And it goes on for pages and pages. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
When you arrived in the workhouse, what would you expect to do? | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
-Is it like, proper work? -Oh, yes. Yes. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
It's called workhouse for a reason. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:36 | |
Women would clean, they would scrub floors, | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
they would possibly look after the children. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
Men would break stones for road building, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
and possibly grind down bones for bonemeal. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:52 | |
All 15,000 parishes in England and Wales had a poor law union | 0:10:53 | 0:10:58 | |
and its own poorhouse. | 0:10:58 | 0:10:59 | |
And, in the mid-1800s, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
there were over 120,000 people registered as paupers, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
many of them were children. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
The central authorities didn't want children to stay in the workhouse | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
and be contaminated and catch pauperism and fecklessness | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
from the adults there. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
So they built these huge separate schools. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
So how long would they stay in these schools? | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
Three would have been the very youngest. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
They tended to be a bit older than that. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
Say about five or six. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
Most would stay until they were 13 or 14. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
On Cowbridge Road, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:39 | |
the entrance building to Cardiff Union Workhouse still exists. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
Ironically, today, rather than housing Cardiff's poor, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
the building is full of fancy apartments, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
going for around £170,000 a pop. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
At its peak, this workhouse could house 1,000 inmates. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
But it wasn't just the residents of workhouses | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
who were having a pretty grim time. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
The respectable poor, as they were known, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
often lived in overcrowded and dirty slum dwellings, like this. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:12 | |
Cardiff had its share of some of the worst housing conditions in the UK. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:17 | |
But one seismic event was to change all that. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
The end of the First World War. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
The poor were now returning soldiers who had saved the nation | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
and it was decided that they shouldn't come back | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
to carry on living in workhouses or slums. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
So, in 1919, Prime Minister Lloyd George, another fine Welshman, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:42 | |
announced a state-funded house-building programme, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
and the idea of a mass-produced council housing was born. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
There are millions of men who have come back. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
Let us make this a land fit for such men to live in. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:57 | |
Slums are not fit homes for the men who have won the war, | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
or for their children. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:02 | |
For what is our task? | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
To make Britain a fit country for heroes to live in! | 0:13:06 | 0:13:12 | |
Lloyd George's push for decent housing in the '20s | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
became known as Homes For Heroes, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
and estates went up all over Britain. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
So, to find out more, I'm visiting the biggest. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
The Becontree Estate in Dagenham. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
Yep, for council housing after the war, the only way was Essex. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
More than 25,000 houses were built in Becontree, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
and it was then, and still is, the largest council estate in the world. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:39 | |
As a five-year-old, I still remember to this day | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
my first feelings about Becontree. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
My navigator today is Bill Jennings. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
There's nobody who knows this estate better than him. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
I went to school here, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
I went to the youth clubs here, I met my wife here, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
I married here, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
and I lived here until I was 30. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
In addition to that, I worked for the local authority for 40 years, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
in the Housing Department. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
And even now, I've retired eight, nine years ago, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
and I come back once a year as a tour guide on a bus | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
to show people the wonders of the Becontree Estate. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
The whole estate is very big. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
You've only seen a fraction. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
It's four square miles. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
-Four square miles?! -Yeah. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:23 | |
As I say, the coach tour takes me four hours. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
And I could extend that, to be honest. I cut that to a minimum. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
And I'm still proud of it to this day. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
-Brilliant. So it's in your soul? -Absolutely. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
I lived in a terrace of six houses. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
My house was the second one. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
Number 59. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:49 | |
If I tell you there was eight children living there... | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
-Eight?! -Eight, with mum and dad. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
There was ten of us in there. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:54 | |
There were seven children in that one, four in that one. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
COLIN LAUGHS | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
Oh, I bet you had some good times. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
Some cracking times. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
These were large, four-bedroom houses, initially. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
They had lots of money and they had plans to build all four bedrooms, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
probably, but very soon, you were reduced to threes and twos. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
They all had front gardens, back gardens, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
inside toilets and running water, etc. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
And, compared to what we had in the east end of London, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
it was absolutely magic. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
One elderly lady in those days | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
described it as heaven with the gates off. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
Very good. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
Very, very good. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:36 | |
Heaven it may have been, but down the road in London, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
all hell was about to break loose. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
When the blitz began in World War II, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
estates like Becontree became even more important, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
providing homes for a new set of war heroes. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
Hello, Colin! | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
People like Peter Railton, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
whose family got bombed out of Poplar in East London. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
He was a child when he came here, | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
and he and his wife Kathleen have invited me in for tea and cake. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
Well, it's brilliant that you've invited me in here and, of course, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:14 | |
-food, good coffee. -Good company. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
-That's always the most important thing, isn't it? -Yeah! -Absolutely! | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
So, tell me a little bit about you. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
How old were you when you came here, and why you come here? | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
I was four. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:27 | |
One particular night we were in the shelter, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
thank goodness we were. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
We woke up the next morning, the house had gone, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
in Poplar, it had been bombed completely. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
So we were allocated a house in Dagenham. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:45 | |
Unbelievable. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:46 | |
Marvellous countryside, coming from Poplar, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
which was very built up. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
Also, we had more room. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
We had three bedrooms. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
We had an inside toilet. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
Well, in our house, we had two. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
Toilet downstairs and the bathroom upstairs! | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
-How about that? -That's lucky! | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
Well, that wasn't 1942. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
The war had a profound effect on estates like Becontree. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
People came looking for safety and a new start. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
It was a feeling that would really build a sense of community. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
Of course, don't forget, the bombing was still around. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
-Right. -So it was a horrendous time. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
In 1942, 1943, I can remember it quite well. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
-Yeah. -So as we moved on, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
we had our victory party in 1945. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
Tell us a little bit about that. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
That must be part of the community truly getting together. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
-It was unbelievable. -Yeah. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
All streets had community parties, victory parties | 0:17:52 | 0:17:57 | |
and everyone joined in. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
And they built huge bonfires - it wouldn't be allowed nowadays. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:05 | |
Unbelievable. They were so intense. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
They actually burnt the paths, and the tarmac. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:12 | |
It was unbelievable. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
It was a great time. It was a time to bring together, come together. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
Everywhere, people let themselves go! | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
Everybody knew everybody else. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
Every neighbour knew, through their children, who their neighbour was. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:35 | |
So, you know, that's... | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
You used to leave your doors open then, couldn't you? | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
Well, yeah. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
Because everyone used to help each other. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
And there's still a community spirit around here. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
We hope it lasts a long time. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
This sense of "we're all in it together" | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
is something that never left the council estate mentality. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
It was certainly there when I was growing up - | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
and, in the post-war period, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
the Government saw this as a way of rebuilding national morale. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
So they knocked down the slums and started building en masse. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
In spite of the modest rents, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
which vary from 13/6 to 26/6 plus rates, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
these particular flats can boast of many first-class amenities. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
By the beginning of the 1950s, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
1.5 million public homes had been constructed - | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
but it wasn't enough, and, in 1951, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
a new Government promised to build even more, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
with a new dedicated housing minister. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
£4,000 produces four of these houses. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:47 | |
Less than the cost of three of the former houses. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
Harold Macmillan launched what he called the people's house. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
Smaller than the previous council houses, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
but with everything a modern family would need. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
With three bedrooms, a living room, dining annexe and all mod cons, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
these houses seem to be just the job. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
That means Britain can't possibly have too many of them too soon, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
for hundreds of thousands of people have been waiting for years. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
By the time we got into the '60s, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
we were in the middle of a house-building bonanza, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
As housing estates went up everywhere, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
very far up, in lots of cases. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
Millions of working class families finally had a place to call home. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:35 | |
Well, Christopher and David, how do you like your new home? | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
-Very much, thank you. -Yes, thank you. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
What do you particularly like about it? | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
Well, we don't have to boil every drop of water now. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
Whereas in the old days, we did. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
The new houses had all the latest domestic gear, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
with a proper kitchen, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:52 | |
proper plumbing and, something I know my family appreciated - | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
a bit of space. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:57 | |
If you're listening to television, | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
you don't want the youngsters having a party in the same room, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:04 | |
and nor does the young daughter want to bring her boyfriend in | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
to do a bit of courting | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
in the same room where Ma and Pa are looking at the television. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
And then came the '70s. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
My era. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:21 | |
It's what I regard as a golden age, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
with council estates now firmly entrenched in British culture. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
For the first time, music, fashion and sporting idols | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
were coming out of these concrete jungles, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
creating inspiration for kids like me and my sister. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
In Cardiff, this was also the era of the newly built Llanedeyrn estate, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:51 | |
and I've come back with Suzanne to relive some of those glory days. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
-Let's have a knock. -Yes, because one of my friends at the time... | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
We've decided to drop in on the Reids, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
old neighbours who are still living here today. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
I always thought she was a bit posh, because her house was much bigger. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
And, given how we looked back in those days, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
I'm really surprised they remember us. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
Oh, wow. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:13 | |
Oh, my goodness. Hello! | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
It is so good to see them again. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
-Good to see you! -Oh, thank you very... | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
Oh, thank you! | 0:22:25 | 0:22:26 | |
Have you done much remodelling since I was here 40 years ago? | 0:22:26 | 0:22:31 | |
Oh, wow, yes, I do remember. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
Oh, after all that travelling about, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
it is also good to take the weight off. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
Oh! That's nice! | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
That's better. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
It is, much better, much better. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
I think this is bigger than ours. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
Yeah. I think so. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
Do you feel it was solidly built? | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
The roof... Isn't it? With... | 0:22:58 | 0:22:59 | |
A lot of them, they say along here, all the roofs... | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
But the other thing is trying to drill. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
I don't know what concrete they put in there, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
but sometimes trying to drill through... | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
Well, I think for 40 years... | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
-It's not bad. -No. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
It's not a mansion, but it's not bad. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
Yeah, it's definitely survived the test of time, hasn't it? | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
For sure. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
We often used to see you. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
We never dreamed that one day you'd be a bloody superstar. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
To put it mildly. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:28 | |
You should have won Strictly Come Dancing, that Erin. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
It was her fault, wasn't it? | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
-I always blame her, but I love her to bits. -She's lovely. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
So, has the estate changed much in all those years? | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
Well, along here, a lot of them have been here years, as well. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
-Oh, right. -Keith was here. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
Keith, yes. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:48 | |
-George. -George. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
-There's not many more. And Jean next door. -Jean next door. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
Well, that seems a fair few people that are still remain here, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
-from back in the day. -They moved in at the same time. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
Compared to us, who lived over the other side, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
-there's only one or two people still over there. -If that, yeah. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
There was one couple... This is going back a few years. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
He was a postman, wasn't he? | 0:24:10 | 0:24:11 | |
-Yeah. -And every Saturday night, they'd have a barney. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
I mean, it was as sure as... | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
-We'd all get prepared. -Every Saturday! | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
I used to hang out the bedroom window and they'd say | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
"Hello, Mrs Reid!" | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
Yeah! | 0:24:26 | 0:24:27 | |
-Yeah! Carry on! -Then they'd carry on at the row! | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
Welcome to Llanedeyrn! | 0:24:31 | 0:24:32 | |
Well, there were a few barnies when we were growing up. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
-Not between us. -No, no. -But in the neighbourhood, for sure. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
-Yeah. -So that hasn't changed. -No! | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
So, you've been here for over 40 years now? | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
-Yeah. -Would you ever move? -No. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
No. Not unless we won... | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
I say, if we won a lot of money... | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
I mean, obviously, if it's millions or something daft, a daft figure, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
that would be different. But if it was a realistic sum, | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
-we'd spend it on this and stay here. -Yes. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
What does that tell you? | 0:25:01 | 0:25:02 | |
It's really nice to hear you say that. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
-That you're happy here. -Yeah. -That's a brilliant thing to hear. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
That's really nice. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:09 | |
-Well, we brought all our children up here, for a kick-off. -Yeah. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
The post-war council estates were also the beating heart | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
of a new multicultural Britain, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
where black, white and Asians lived as neighbours for the first time. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
With neighbours like the Reids, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
I can't ever remember there ever being a problem for my family. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
But I wonder if my sister thinks the same? | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
So, did you feel any different then, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
that being black, and virtually we were the only black family here... | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
Yeah, definitely, but I never felt... | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
Until you came, I think I was one of two black people in the school. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
But I never felt particularly special. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
-I was always proud to be called... That I was from Llanedeyrn. -Yeah. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:57 | |
Oh, gosh, absolutely. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
And also, I think I do have a sense of being privileged, in a way. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:06 | |
Because, when you think that our parents were low income, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
and the fact that they established themselves in their own home, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:15 | |
it made us feel, I think, very equal. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
And out of that grew that lovely community, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
even if it was just this street, there was a sense of community. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
I think the home truth of our positive experience | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
of growing up in Llanedeyrn is partly down to the city. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
Like most places based around the docks, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
Cardiff has a long history of multicultural communities | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
stretching back centuries. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
In other parts of the country, though, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
the situation wasn't as rosy. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
Discrimination, economic hardship and unemployment | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
lead to racial tension between neighbours, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
and with the police, particularly on estates. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
One area that was to suffer more than most is this council estate. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:03 | |
Broadwater Farm in London. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
The Tottenham riot. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:11 | |
Tonight, police say a revolver, as well as a shotgun, was used. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
It all came to a head when a local black woman, Cynthia Jarrett, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
died after a police search. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
Long-held grievances suddenly came to the surface, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
and the estate erupted in terrible violence. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
During the rioting, many people were hurt, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
and police constable Keith Blakelock was killed. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
'In the words of one senior officer, it wasn't England, it was madness.' | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
It's been 30 years since the riots, and I'm keen to hear the perspective | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
of the residents who lived through it and its aftermath. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
These guys between them have given Broadwater Farm Estate | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
more than 70 years' service. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
David Singh, Chris Hutton, and Archbishop Frimpong Manson. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
I was brought up on a council estate in exactly the same way, | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
and I couldn't believe what was actually happening. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
So, the riots themselves, | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
do you think that came about from what was happening on the estate? | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
The way the housing was... Was it a... | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
-Frustration. -Frustration. -There were youngsters in that period, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
a lot of youngsters, and they were frustrated. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
There was nothing for them. There was no community centre. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
Where do they go? | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
Police were aggressive on the youths. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
The youths were all angry. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
And one thing is, I will not blame the youths | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
because when you call for, even a minor incident, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
you see ten police cars here. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
And violence brewed violence. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
So, once the riots had happened here, did lots of people shift out? | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
Yeah. After the riots, yes, a lot of people asked for transfer. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
And they were given transfer, really nearly without any problem. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
And most of them were white people. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
We did know it was brewing, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:54 | |
we'd known something was going to happen sooner or later, | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
we just didn't know when. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:58 | |
The press was not good to this place. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
That day we went there, we got up in the morning | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
and the Mirror had publicised it a no-go area, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
for the police - "the estate of death". | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
When we try to rebuild the reputation of Broadwater Farm, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
how important do you think that the residents | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
really take responsibility, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
as well, of living here and, you know, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
pushing and driving everything on the estate? | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
At first, Haringey were very reluctant to involve the residents, | 0:29:25 | 0:29:31 | |
in any way, shape or form, | 0:29:31 | 0:29:32 | |
but I think they soon realised that if they didn't involve residents, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:37 | |
that things were not going to be happening. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
We have done a lot. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:40 | |
The residents, we decided that we have to rebuild our own place. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:46 | |
We can bring the change. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
I think, for me, what was pretty clear | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
was that I was welcomed when I arrived here. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
When I was walking in, somebody came to me and said, | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
"Hey, Colin Jackson, it's so nice to see you, and welcome to Tottenham!" | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
Achievements... We don't talk about our achievements enough, OK? | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
And that is part of the problem. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
We are always on the back foot. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
In the '90s, Broadwater Farm, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
in consultation with the residents of the estate, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:14 | |
began a £33 million regeneration programme. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
Today, around 40 different nationalities live here | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
and the crime rate has been dramatically reduced. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
It's also become a model to other estates | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
of what can be achieved when residents are involved. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
In this very room, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
we had a deputation by the Housing Minister talking to us, | 0:30:30 | 0:30:35 | |
wanting to know how we managed it, | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
how we got through all this, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
and how we now have a nice, calm, settled community. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
I am proud to be here. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:44 | |
Because it is my home. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
And we talk about everything negative, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
we need to talk about positivities. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
I'm the oldest one here, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:52 | |
and I've been living on this estate a long time. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
I'm getting on in years, | 0:30:56 | 0:30:57 | |
but I still have the ambition to see Broadwater Farm come back | 0:30:57 | 0:31:02 | |
as an estate, as it should be. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
Well, gentlemen, thank you very much for inviting me on this day. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
I've had a wonderful time. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:10 | |
I was recognised, and I was welcomed wonderfully. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
So, thank you very much indeed. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
You're welcome, Mr Jackson. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:16 | |
Yes, thank you, Colin, for coming to Broadwater Farm. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
-Brilliant. Thank you. -Always welcome. -Always welcome. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
While Broadwater Farm and many other estates across Britain | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
were working hard to fix their problems, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
another council house revolution had also begun. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
It was called Right To Buy, and it was championed by Mrs Thatcher. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
It's fundamental in our history that you have the right to own your home | 0:31:39 | 0:31:44 | |
and the land on which it stands. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
Over the past year, hundreds of thousands of council tenants | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
have sent for the Right To Buy booklet, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
and have applied to buy their council houses or flats. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
Buying your council house wasn't new, | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
but this was on a nationwide scale. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
Councils were forced to offer tenants massive discounts. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
The electorate loved it and council housing would never be the same. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:08 | |
I am conscious of no single act of social policy | 0:32:08 | 0:32:12 | |
more likely to change the attitudes and opportunities | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
of countless thousands of our people... | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
..that ranks higher | 0:32:20 | 0:32:21 | |
than the enfranchisement of the council tenant. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
It will be seen and remembered | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
as one of the great social revolutions of our time. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
Right To Buy transformed British Council housing | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
and it all started here on the very spot I'm standing - | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
on the Harold Hill estate, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:39 | |
just seven miles from the homes for heroes in Becontree. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
The Pattersons have lived in the house for nearly 19 years | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
and James Patterson is justifiably proud of the hard work he's put in. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
Because it was here in 1981, in a carefully staged publicity stunt, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:56 | |
that the Prime Minister handed over the deeds | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
to the first Right To Buy council house. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
It's so strange to actually be standing on this particular spot, | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
where it all seemed to stem from. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
And my parents actually bought their property, | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
courtesy of that law and regulation. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
And it's quite bizarre, isn't it, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
to see that the house is up for sale again. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
This will be the house's eighth owner, at a cost of £290,000. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:24 | |
I'm off to meet local taxi driver, Steven Key, | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
who has lived on the Harold Hill estate most of his life. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
When Margaret Thatcher came here, | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
can you actually remember the noise and the commotion that was made | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
-when she turned up? -I remember it was quite a big thing at the time. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:47 | |
I remember it all being in the papers, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
but I don't think she got that great a reception in the area. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
But it was a good thing to happen. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
The big opportunity for people round here was the children | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
of the parents - because the parents had bought the houses, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
and when they die, they passed them down, | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
and that's where they've done really well. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
So what did your parents think about it? | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
They'd been on the estate a long time. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
He was a bit old school, my dad. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
He wasn't interested. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:17 | |
He was more of the, "Oh, if the roof gets broken, what do I do? | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
"If the water system breaks down, what do I do?" | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
And I would say, "Dad, we'll come round and repair it." | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
But it never happened, it never happened. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
So in hindsight, if you could have pushed him a little bit, | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
would you have encouraged him to buy? | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
Well, it was an opportunity for me, | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
I could have bought the house for £15,000. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
That was late, as well. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
I mean, a lot of the houses around here, | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
friends of mine bought their mum and dad's house | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
-for between £8,000 and £10,000. -Wow! | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
Steven did eventually get his chance | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
to buy a Harold Hill Council house, | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
albeit with one previous owner. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
We had the opportunity, back in about 1983, and I paid about 35,000. | 0:34:54 | 0:35:00 | |
So, how much would a house of £35,000 then be worth now? | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
Well, I had it valued on Tuesday. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
£340,000. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
So, with that in mind, are there any downsides? | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
Well, I mean, there could be the possibility of... | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
My son now is on the waiting list | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
and he's not really got a lot of chance. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
He's 35 years of age and I think, the reason is, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
there's so many houses being bought, council places being bought, | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
that there's probably not enough available now | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
for the people who used to live on the estate, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
with their kids now for them to get a place. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
-So there's plusses and minuses. -There's plusses and minuses. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
There was another plus or minus to Right To Buy, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
depending on your sense of taste. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
This is one family that bought its own council house | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
when Birmingham offered it the chance. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
You can't mistake it. In contrast to the council houses on either side, | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
it's now painted a bright purple. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
Well, bright purple... I'd seen a house painted the same colour | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
and I thought it looked rather attractive, being a roughcast house. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
I painted the top half purple and the bottom half white. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
I think everybody wants to own their own house eventually. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
Now we could all be house designers. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
Stone cladding, elaborate porches, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
pebbledash, and coloured renders all made an appearance. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:27 | |
But it was inside that the real horrors were happening, | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
as we attempted to make our houses are unique. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
Genius is said to be 10% inspiration and 90% perspiration. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
And the genius who invented the sauna proved it. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
With a home sauna, the whole family can get steamed up in comfort. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
Upstairs wasn't any better. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
Someone called it "bad taste Britain", | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
and I've come to meet one of the Queens of the era, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
interior designer Linda Barker. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
This colour's so lovely. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
I have to say, I'm a little excited, because in our house, | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
she was a bit of a design guru. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
Linda, I've just come back from seeing some of the houses | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
that were bought and sold during the Right To Buy period in time, | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
and saw how they changed and became very individual | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
in their designs after they were bought from the council. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
What do you remember about that era? | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
I loved the fact that people wanted to make their home their castle. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:25 | |
It was so important for everybody to put their stamp on it. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:30 | |
But most astounding | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
was that absolute love of having your own home | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
and doing whatever you wanted to do on it, which is a brilliant thing, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
although aesthetically, looking a bit bonkers. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
But the interior, as well, went through a bit of a change | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
and I brought some pictures to see if you can jog your memory | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
about anything - can you remember this? | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
The coloured bathroom suite! | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
The avocados, the primrose, the yellow! | 0:37:53 | 0:37:58 | |
-Salmon! -Yes, salmon. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
I must admit we had a salmon bathroom suite. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
Which was my mother's dream. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
Yeah, I mean, my parents had one that was light turquoise, | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
but I remember loving it as a kid. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
You know, it was the height of sophistication. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
And gold taps! | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
And carpet up the side of the bath. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
And all these kind of things that you look at now and think, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
"Why on earth did we do that?!". | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
I've got some more pictures to jog your memory. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
Now, have a look at this room. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
That's astoundingly bad, isn't it? | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
Here you have matching curtains, | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
wallpaper, furnishings... | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
You probably have accessories like a teapot and cups | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
that were covered in this same floral pattern. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
I mean, it's Laura Ashley on acid. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
It's bonkers, isn't it? | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
I mean, this is so typical. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
Like millions of Brits, | 0:38:57 | 0:38:58 | |
my family took our design advice from home improvement shows on TV. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:03 | |
So I reckon in terms of "bad taste Britain", Linda needs to 'fess up. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:08 | |
A little bit of a cheeky question, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
but do you think you should take a little bit of responsibility, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
-in Changing Rooms? -Oh... | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
Well... Changing Rooms was of its time, definitely. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
It was encouraging people to be their own interior designer, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
which people took wholeheartedly into their own domain. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
I mean, prior to that, | 0:39:29 | 0:39:30 | |
interior designers were really for the rich and famous | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
and, you know, the wealthy part of society. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
What we did was we brought interior design to everybody. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
And everybody went crazy! | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
What I want to do here, Kate, is to paint odd tiles, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
so we've got a real Mexican feel about it. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
How many colours are we using? | 0:39:49 | 0:39:50 | |
About five. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
I think today's designs are much more considered, | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
much more bespoke and for the individual in their home | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
and we really consider our purchases. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
All that excess of the '80s is gone, thank goodness. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
We just about did it! | 0:40:03 | 0:40:04 | |
-You don't even look too flustered, well done. -I feel it! | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
And so we're right back to the present. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
Today, less than 8% of people live in council houses, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
compared to 42% in the '70s, when I was a lad. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
Which means for kids growing up in estates like my old one, | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
the future of their living arrangements is an uncertain one. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
So I guess the ultimate home truth I've learnt | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
is that my generation had it good. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
Council houses allowed our families to get out of the old slums | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
before paving the way for us to get on the property ladder. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
Since the Beveridge Report | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
identified the need for social housing 75 years ago, | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
there have been difficulties along the way, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
but I've seen how these estates also forged a sense of pride | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
and community that allowed their residents to get back up | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
when they were knocked down. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
You could say we council estate folk are the real bulldog breed, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:07 | |
so, to end my journey, I'm organising a special little game, | 0:41:07 | 0:41:11 | |
one I played 40 years ago on this exact part of the Llanedeyrn estate. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:16 | |
Who lives really close to the actual street here? | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
OK right, four or five. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
Yeah, a couple of you live here. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:22 | |
Well, I used to live in number eight. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
So, who lives pretty close to number eight here? | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
-How close do you live? -I live in number seven. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
-Right next door. -Yeah. -That's pretty close! | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
So what's is like living here now? | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
Well, it's really quiet. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
Do you find lots of kids around there playing, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
or has it completely changed? | 0:41:42 | 0:41:43 | |
Most people are not really interested in sport any more, | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
they're interested in just... | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
Well, I don't know what they're interested in. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
Phones, internet, that's all they care about. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
So you think it's a lot of social media? | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
-Yeah, pretty much. -Yeah. OK. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
Well, do you know what? | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
I hope that you guys are feeling quite energetic, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
because I'm going to play Bulldogs with you. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
-Have you heard of the game Bulldogs? -Yes! | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
That's what we used to do on this street. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
So I think I should reintroduce you to that. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
-Are you game for it? -Yeah. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:14 | |
-That's a good thing. -Definitely. -Definitely? | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
Three, two, one, bulldogs! | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
SCREAMING AND LAUGHING | 0:42:20 | 0:42:24 | |
# That's neat, that's neat that's neat, I really love... # | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
Ohhh! | 0:42:28 | 0:42:29 | |
Bulldogs! | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
# Your tiger feet | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
# Your tiger feet... # | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
They're having great fun, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
and it does fully remind me what it was like back in the day. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
There was noise, there was excitement, it was just brilliant. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
And it's really nice to see it again. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
Three, two, one, | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
let's go! Bulldogs! | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
I'm out of it. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:56 | |
I thoroughly enjoyed that. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
-Did you have a good time doing that? -Yeah! | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
Some people got a little bit... | 0:43:03 | 0:43:04 | |
Falling over a little bit, battered and bruised, but it was cool, right? | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
Yeah! | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
Yeah, it was really nice to see. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
But do you know what? I must admit this now. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
I'm coming from this estate, | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
I thoroughly had a good time coming back visiting. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
And, for me, I can honestly say that I'm truly proud | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
to come from a council estate. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
This was right at the beginnings. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
And you know what? You never know... | 0:43:25 | 0:43:27 | |
We could have... | 0:43:27 | 0:43:28 | |
He was the winner this time, he could be a champion of the future. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
So, guys, let's give it up for Llanedeyrn. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
-Hip hip... -Hooray! -Hip hip... -Hooray! | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
-Hip hip... -Hooray! | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
# Tiger feet | 0:43:39 | 0:43:41 | |
# That's right, that's right that's right | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
# T-T-T-Tiger feet | 0:43:43 | 0:43:45 | |
# I really love, I really love I really love, I really love | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
# I really love your tiger feet | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
# T-T-T-Tiger feet | 0:43:52 | 0:43:53 | |
# That's right, that's right that's right | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
# T-T-T-Tiger feet | 0:43:56 | 0:43:57 | |
# That's right, that's right that's right... # | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 |