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In the 1930s, five children were born | 0:00:04 | 0:00:08 | |
who grew up with dreams of building a better world. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
And that's exactly what they did. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
The architecture of Norman Foster, Richard Rogers, | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
Michael Hopkins, Nicholas Grimshaw and Terry Farrell | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
can be found across Britain and the globe. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
In their youth, they collaborated, and their work was hailed | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
as a radical new style of architecture - high-tech. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:39 | |
In later years, they became rivals. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
Their buildings were sometimes controversial, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
but they turned into the most successful generation of architects | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
Britain has ever produced. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
In this series, for the first time, all five of them tell their story. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
From housing to high culture, from offices to airports, | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
the world we live in now is the world that they designed. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
This programme contains some strong language. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:15 | |
If you've bought a ticket for a tourist flight into space, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
the last building you'll see as you leave Earth | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
will have been designed by one of the most successful architects on the planet - | 0:01:49 | 0:01:54 | |
Norman Foster. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:55 | |
New Mexico is home to the world's first commercial spaceport, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
both spacecraft hangar and, from 2014, passenger terminal. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
Everything's all under one roof and that roof | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
is almost like the contours of the desert. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
So environmentally, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:19 | |
it's very efficient. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:20 | |
And it brings together the drama and the excitement, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
makes space travel accessible beyond the few. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
In that way, it opens up a new era of flying. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
I love flight. I love flying as a pilot... | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
..and the poetry of flying. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
Um...so you can imagine the appeal of that project. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:58 | |
Over the past four decades, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:06 | |
Foster has built futuristic structures all over the world. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:11 | |
But to understand what inspired him, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
you need to go back to post-war Britain | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
and the comic he read as a teenager. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
I think the Eagle was the romance of technology. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:33 | |
There was a vitality | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
in the very freshness of its graphics... | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
..and the celebration of making things. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
Back in the '60s, Foster collaborated for several years | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
with another architect who, like him, is now a lord. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:59 | |
Opposite one of Rogers' most famous creations, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
the headquarters of Lloyd's of London, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
his architectural practice has been building a new tower, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
nicknamed the Cheese Grater. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
I've always had this belief that towers, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
in fact buildings, should express their structure. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
Clearly, towers have a tremendous potential | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
because they're reaching upwards. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
You've got to...you've got to have a big...a big structure. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
What can you actually create which is more humanistic than just a box? | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
On the whole, for instance, offices are just rectangular boxes. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
This tower thickens out at its base, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
where seven storeys have been scooped away | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
to create something Rogers often campaigns for - | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
public space. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:16 | |
Rogers, like Foster, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
can trace some of his architectural inspirations back to his youth. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
One of my first presents, I remember, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
was a tiny box of Meccano. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:38 | |
And I have always enjoyed Meccano. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
Though Rogers and Foster | 0:05:51 | 0:05:52 | |
are the best-known British architects of their generation, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
three of their close contemporaries have also built a global reputation. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:01 | |
Earlier in his career, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
Michael Hopkins collaborated with Norman Foster, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
just as Richard Rogers had done, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
and for Hopkins too, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
a '40s childhood inspired a life in architecture. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
I went to school, I did absolutely no work at all | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
and I was always able to sort of bunk off on my bike | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
when other boys were playing games. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
I started sort of becoming aware of buildings in the countryside | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
and enjoying them and feeling... feeling good about them. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
I used to go out bicycling a lot. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
Over 50 years later, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:03 | |
Hopkins Architects designed the London Olympic velodrome. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
It's a Pringle, isn't it, it got called? | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
It's a beautiful form | 0:07:12 | 0:07:13 | |
and it begins to tell me something about, from the outside, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
what's going on in the inside. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
Buildings must be legible and easy to understand. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
As you arrive into the stadium space, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
you're arriving in a theatre of sport. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
CHEERING | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
Hopkins learnt his craft | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
at London's Architectural Association. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
One of his fellow students there in the early '60s | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
went on to create Britain's most visited work | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
of high-tech architecture - the Eden Project. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
Over the last decade, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:00 | |
Grimshaw's firm has become a major player in New York, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
building everything from a public housing scheme in the Bronx | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
to the Fulton Street transit interchange. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
It's ten floors, three floors underground | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
and the key thing is | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
it's got a kind of opening in the top. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
You can get a shaft of sunlight coming down like that... | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
..right down to this level here | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
and you get a patch of sun down there. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
This is going be a great meeting place, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
through which hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
will go every day. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
So the idea of making it beautiful is quite important | 0:08:42 | 0:08:47 | |
and I think if you're just lifting the spirits of people, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
you're doing something. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
And for the first 15 years of his professional life, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
Nick Grimshaw's partner was Terry Farrell. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
The biggest Farrell buildings in recent years | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
can be found in China. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
Biggest of all, at 1,449 feet, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
is the KK100 Tower in Shenzhen. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
The tower is the tallest by a British architect. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
It was the tallest building built in that year - | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
in other words, in 2011, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:41 | |
there was nothing else taller in the world built. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
There aren't many like it. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:00 | |
It's not symmetrical both ways. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
I like to think it's like a blade of grass. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
MUSIC: "I Don't Want To Set The World On Fire" by The Ink Spots | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
# I don't want to set the world on fire... # | 0:10:10 | 0:10:19 | |
For Farrell, like the rest of these '30s babies, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
a life in construction began with six years of destruction. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
My main memories of the war | 0:10:30 | 0:10:31 | |
was the shelter my father built with my uncle, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
and I was fascinated - here were men, doing men's things, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
digging a hole in the ground, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:39 | |
putting this metal corrugated thing under and filling it over. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:44 | |
Another formative experience came soon after the war, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
when Terry's family moved to a Newcastle council estate. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
Their house had been built with a process | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
which his generation of architects would later make great use of - | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
prefabrication. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:01 | |
It was designed in an aircraft factory. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
It was a steel-frame house clad in...in asbestos. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
Farrell's working-class background | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
would give him a different perspective | 0:11:11 | 0:11:12 | |
to most in the privileged world of British architecture, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
and he wasn't the only Northern lad in this group | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
to benefit from a place at grammar school. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
Norman Foster and I were probably born just a couple of miles apart. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:26 | |
-NORMAN FOSTER: -It was a fairly tough neighbourhood - | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
I mean, an area where people worked with their hands | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
and if you didn't work with your hands, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
if you were interested in books rather than other things, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
then you were very suspect and given quite a hard time. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
Richard Rogers also came to British architecture | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
as something of an outsider - | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
his family was Anglo-Italian | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
and his earliest years were spent in Florence. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
But when his parents fled Mussolini's dictatorship in 1938, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:03 | |
the five-year-old Rogers got a crash course | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
in the English side of his heritage. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
Especially in the beginning of the war, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
either being Italian or German was a bad thing | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
and going to a small primary school, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:14 | |
you know, bullying was, er...prevalent, um... | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
So I was pretty suicidal at school, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
especially in my primary school, I really was suicidal. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
Being dyslexic, as I found very much later, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
my aim in life was to be second from last | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
rather than bottom of the class for most of my life. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
Hopkins and Grimshaw came from more comfortable backgrounds, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
but they too were formed partly by the experience of hardship. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
I know all the other architects you're filming - | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
of course, we all were brought up in years of serious austerity. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
We had, for instance, utility furniture, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
which was furniture that had to be approved by the government | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
for using the minimum amount of materials. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
No decoration, no frills. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
In 1951, however, the teenage architects-to-be | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
were given a glimpse of a brighter future. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
# The Festival of Britain is here | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
# People are welcome from everywhere... # | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
When I went down to the Festival of Britain, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
it made a big impression on me. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
I particularly remember the Dome of Discovery, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
which was a marvellously futuristic shape. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
It was a damn good building, actually. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
I mean, if you took Richard's Millennium Dome, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
you could see a definite analogy, actually, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
quite fascinatingly, there. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
And the Skylon, which was a marvellous bit | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
of "look, no hands" structural virtuosity. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
These were, er...perhaps even more exotic | 0:13:40 | 0:13:46 | |
because of the... the drab surroundings. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
The whole atmosphere was determinedly sort of modernistic. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
Across the rest of Britain too, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
architecture quickly became the promise of a better tomorrow, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
as the bombed-out nation was rebuilt. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
You know, the optimism of building houses for people | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
that are coming back from the war, of building schools, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
of building hospitals, er...of doing urban planning... | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
Changing the world was very much on the agenda at that time. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
Britain's post-war buildings weren't nearly-new - | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
they were products of the modern movement. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
They followed the example set since the '20s by Continental architects, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:38 | |
such as Le Corbusier and Mies van der Rohe. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
Architecture for the machine age, where form followed function | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
and less was more. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:46 | |
This kind of architecture makes no attempt to disguise itself | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
in a false and conventional style. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
The goal of the modern movement was healthier, lighter, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
better architecture for everyone. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
So, at the birth of the welfare state, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
modernism seemed a natural fit for public buildings. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
Young people wanting to change the world saw modernism as the way | 0:15:09 | 0:15:14 | |
to do so, which is why Hopkins, Grimshaw and Rogers | 0:15:14 | 0:15:19 | |
all headed to the same place for their architectural training. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
There was only one school that taught modern architecture in Britain | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
and that was The Architecture Association. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
Every other school was teaching Neoclassicism. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
Michael Hopkins found more than his education at the AA - | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
he also met his future collaborator and wife Patricia. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
There were 400 boys and about ten girls... | 0:15:40 | 0:15:45 | |
so you made a beeline for the prettiest girl. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
I remember Michael coming into the little cafe with very tight jeans, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
washed leather jacket and a book on ballet under his arm, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
um, and I thought "Urgh, what a... | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
"He's just showing off." | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
But it obviously made a mark. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
Thanks to a scholarship, Terry Farrell | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
completed his architectural training in the United States. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
JAZZ MUSIC PLAYS | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
I had five days at sea and sailed in past the Statue of Liberty | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
into New York and I could see that this was a life-changer. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:24 | |
# Somewhere beyond the sea | 0:16:24 | 0:16:29 | |
# Somewhere waiting for me... # | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
Unusually for the time, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:33 | |
Foster and Rogers also made the pilgrimage across the Atlantic. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:38 | |
Couldn't believe our eyes. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:39 | |
The scale and the buildings were soaring up and down | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
these amazing avenues. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
That certainly was a shocker. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:46 | |
It really knocked us out. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
When I got to America I felt I'd come home. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
I think it changed the way that I looked at things. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
You had this feeling that everything was possible. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
Terry's postgraduate studies took him to Philadelphia. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
Richard and Norman enrolled at Yale, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
where the two rapidly became collaborators and close friends. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
Norman was a brilliant, fantastically strong draftsman, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
where I could hardly hold a pencil in comparison. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
When we first came together at Yale it seemed to me | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
that you know, Richard had all the... | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
the qualities that in a way I admired. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
My memory of the most exciting intellectual talks | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
that I've ever had in my life were the ones with Norman. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
We argued about how to change the world. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
It was a great period and, for me, very liberating. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:47 | |
I did a lot of drawing, a lot of thinking, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
and a lot of travelling and I really immersed myself in America. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:57 | |
We just worked like hell day and night, and at the end of | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
a project we'd just drive thousands of miles in search of architecture. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:09 | |
We did the trips together, went to see industrial buildings together. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
The steel mills, the Airstream caravans, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
Cape Canaveral, NASA, as well as the architecture. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
We went to see the majority of Frank Lloyd Wright's buildings... | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
..so we were imbued with them. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
We were like sponges, you know, we were just absorbing... | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
this new culture. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
They headed back to Britain, inspired by America's | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
can-do and capitalist dynamism. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
Most architects in mid-'60s Britain worked in the public sector, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
but Norman and Richard set up their own private firm | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
with their wives Wendy and Sue. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
They called themselves Team 4 | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
and set up shop in the Fosters' tiny flat. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
It was a bed-sitting room in Hampstead Hill Gardens. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
On those few occasions when there was a potential client, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
then we had somebody who was in the kitchen, just banging a typewriter | 0:19:15 | 0:19:20 | |
to make it sound as if there was a lot of action going on. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
MUSIC: "Get Ready" by The Temptations | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
Their first projects were houses, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
including a group of three in North London. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
Despite two future superstars of architecture combining | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
their talents, this job proved an inauspicious start to their careers. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:40 | |
I mean, it was hellish. I mean, we had extremely little experience, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
even though we tried to sort of bring in people with a little bit more | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
experience, and we went from crisis to crisis to crisis. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
Unlike the later work of Foster and Rogers, the houses were built | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
with traditional materials, such as brick, | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
and they struggled to find builders who could meet their ambitions. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
One example of shoddy workmanship | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
was brought to the architects' attention by the house owner. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
He pointed to what I thought was a damp-proof course, which is | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
usually a sort of rubber membrane of plastic, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
stops the water going through the bricks, | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
and then he picked it up and he said, "What do you think this is?" | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
And it was the, it was the Daily Mail, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
or whatever it was, painted black. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
Well, I do remember, and I'm a rather sort of tough person, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
sitting on, under a tree on Hampstead Heath | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
and literally crying, saying, "I'll never be an architect." | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
The problems caused by the slow and unreliable traditions | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
of the British building site | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
weren't just thwarting their architectural dreams. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
Financially it was disastrous, and that's really what drove us | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
to look for another way. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:52 | |
I think Norman and I, and Wendy and Sue, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
all decided we had to change, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
and we had an opportunity to build a factory in Swindon | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
and it had to be done in a year at an immensely low price. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
Searching for a cheaper and more reliable way of building, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
the architects remembered some of the steel structures they'd seen | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
on their American road trips, for which components had been | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
manufactured under carefully controlled factory conditions. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
It was wanting to use materials that were precise | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
and the whole thing went together a bit like clockwork. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
It was all site welded, but beautifully done | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
and it took no time at all to build the frame. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
Foster and Rogers' factory for Reliance Controls | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
has since been demolished, but back in 1967 it marked | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
the birth of what became known as high-tech architecture. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
It was unlike anything else built in Britain at the time, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
neither traditional brick nor the brutalist concrete | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
then in vogue with property developers and the public sector. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
You could see the whole skeleton. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
It was perfectly obvious how it all worked. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
You know, really lightweight, but stiff structure. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
Tony Hunt was a crucial collaborator for Rogers and Foster, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
and later Grimshaw, Farrell and Hopkins. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
All these architects built their success | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
on a different kind of relationship with engineers. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
The customary way of designing is that the architect | 0:22:35 | 0:22:40 | |
is trained to design and then to bring in engineers | 0:22:40 | 0:22:45 | |
to translate that design and make it stand out. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
I think that's a totally inadequate way of designing. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
I want to know whilst I'm in the process of designing, | 0:22:51 | 0:22:56 | |
I want to know what the possibilities are. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
To discuss at a meet, early meeting with the architect, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
"How are we going do this?" | 0:23:02 | 0:23:03 | |
It's very difficult to define in the end... | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
exactly who designed precisely what in the building. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
In the situation we're talking about here, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
the engineer is part of a complete team of people. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:16 | |
Sitting around a round table which is non-hierarchical, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
that was considered radical and revolutionary as a way of working. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:26 | |
The times were a-changing, how architects worked, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
what they built with and who they built for were all being rethought. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:38 | |
Since the '20s, modernists had dreamed of the better world | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
they might construct. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:42 | |
In the '60s, that utopia got a makeover from the counterculture. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:47 | |
# Something happening here | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
# What it is ain't exactly clear... # | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
We were extremely moved by the political situation, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
you know, CND marches, went on most of those, Vietnam, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
and really the whole student, intellectual workers revolution | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
against the status quo tradition and so on. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
We were very much involved in all those things. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
# Stop, children, what's that sound? | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
# Everybody looks what's going down... # | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
I was responding to the times I lived in. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
Flower power and... make love not war. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
A general feeling of freedom in society... | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
is there a kind of architecture that reflects that? | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
Is there a kind of non-monumental kind of architecture? | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
Other switched-on young cats were asking the same questions, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:45 | |
and they defined the aims of architecture for their generation. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
What's needed is a new architecture to stand beside the space capsules, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:55 | |
computers and throwaway packs of an atomic world. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
Sometimes dubbed the Beatles of Buildings, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
the collective of young designers who called themselves Archigram | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
treated architecture like pop art. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
I suppose we wanted to be sort of interesting and famous | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
and do something weird, you know. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
Change is the dominant fact of today. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
Though hugely influential, Archigram never actually built anything - | 0:25:21 | 0:25:26 | |
that was for the squares. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
Instead they published magazines and generally wound people up. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
You know, I think if you don't rebel against the generation before you, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
there's something wrong with you. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
The city should be capable of forming and reforming | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
day by day, week by week, year by year, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
as events and purposes change. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
I was really fired up by the idea of | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
architecture that you can manipulate and you can change | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
and that's responsive to the users. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
And that was the subject of my thesis. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
Archigram's Peter Cook was one of Grimshaw's tutors. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
To show the importance of change, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
Nick illustrated his final student project with animation. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
My subject was basically an interweaving network | 0:26:13 | 0:26:18 | |
of travelators and escalators, and so it was a constantly changing, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
constantly rejuvenating organisation. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
When Grimshaw left college in 1965, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
he formed a practice with Terry Farrell. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
Their first major new build project together applied the concept | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
of adaptable architecture to a pressing personal need. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
We...none of us had anywhere to live. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
I'd slept on the floor of the office for, for, for a while. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
So Nick and Terry started their own housing cooperative | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
and designed a tower block for themselves to live in | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
on a site they'd found near Regent's Park. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
It was dirt cheap. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
We built it for the same price as a council block. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
Farrell and Grimshaw's tower, however, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
wouldn't look anything like a typical concrete council block. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
I liked the idea of having an anonymous frame, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:35 | |
which you could then clad with modern materials. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
There'd been very few buildings clad in aluminium up to that point. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
But it was structurally strong, it didn't corrode | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
and it was waterproof, so it became a skin of a building. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
The chief planning officer, you know, he was speechless. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
I mean, he said, "You're... | 0:28:00 | 0:28:01 | |
"An aluminium building next to Regent's Park!" | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
"Over my dead body", he said. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:06 | |
It wasn't just the exterior which was radical. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
The interior was built for the kind of constant change | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
Archigram had envisaged. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:15 | |
It was designed almost like an office block. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
All the structure was on the outside wall or in the core, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
so you could remove any of the internal walls, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
so that gave you tremendous flexibility. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
You could have 14 bed-sitters on one floor, or in fact one flat, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:46 | |
and everything possible in between. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
Some people bought the flat next door later on | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
and knocked the two together, so the configuration of bedrooms | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
and kitchens could vary their position. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
Grimshaw and I both took an apartment there | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
and we both lived there. We were all in and out of each other flats, | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
having dinner and what-have-you, and drinks parties. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
It was a very good, a very good community actually, | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
a very good community feeling. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
Cabbies quickly nicknamed it "The Sardine Can" | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
but within the profession, | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
the tower marked out Farrell and Grimshaw as architects on the rise. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:32 | |
By the time their partnership took off however, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
another had fallen apart - | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
Foster and Rogers. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
There was no work and if there's no work, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
there's too much time to argue about things, | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
but also probably we were both as, er, strong as each other | 0:29:43 | 0:29:48 | |
and there was the beginning of a feeling of we needed our own space. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:53 | |
In 1970, Norman Foster found a new partner - Michael Hopkins. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:58 | |
And we got on very well together, you know. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
We had, um, a great relationship. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
Norman was clearly a sort of very energetic chap, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
who would be giving the whole thing his heart and soul. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
I was probably a bit more laid back. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
They understand the building they're going to work in, you know, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
and where they get their tea and where they park their car, | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
all these sort of things. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:20 | |
I mean, how do you see yourself...? | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
What the two shared was a determination to innovate, | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
which proved particularly appealing | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
to clients in new industries like high technology. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
When a computer firm urgently needed more space for its expanding workforce, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:38 | |
Foster and Hopkins created a pioneering membrane structure, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
which sat in the office car park. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
When you fill it with air, it blows up like a balloon. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:49 | |
'We were able to realise space for some 70 people in a total period, | 0:30:57 | 0:31:04 | |
'including research, of, ooh, about eight weeks. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
'But of that time, the erection time was 55 minutes.' | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
Never collapsed, but the odd puncture you could cope with. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:18 | |
You just get one of those... get a bit of Elastoplast | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
and stick it on the outside. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
The practice would prove as radical in its social agenda | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
as in its approach to structure and materials. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
Mirror glass was a swanky novelty in 1970. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
Foster made a whole building from the stuff in London's Docklands, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
many years before the bankers moved in. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
Conditions were horrific and this was a total transformation. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
I mean, the idea that the dockers could have a civilised place. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:52 | |
Foster's amenity centre for the Fred Olsen Shipping Company gave | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
blue collar staff a white collar quality of design. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:02 | |
And I brought together, under one roof, dockers and management. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:07 | |
For so many, it was unthinkable because... | 0:32:08 | 0:32:12 | |
I can remember the quotes at the time - | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
"They're dirty", "They swear", | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
"How could secretaries be in the same building as the dockers?" | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
Foster has always stuck to that, he's always seen offices | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
and factories as basically the same kind of thing, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
they accommodate working people | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
and those working people are not divided by any class. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
He's a working-class chap himself. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
I think that, in a way, we're all products of a background, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
I think we're influenced by our background. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
I would see my father coming home as a manual worker and, um, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
his workplace, it was a pretty horrible place. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
Um, now, at Olsen, I engaged personally | 0:32:48 | 0:32:53 | |
and directly with the unions. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
That's not what architects are supposed to do, | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
architects are supposed to design buildings, but buildings don't arise | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
out of thin air, they're generated by needs, the needs of people. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
Foster's ex-partner had also moved on. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
In 1970, Richard and Sue Rogers formed a new practice | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
with the man who would eventually build The Shard, Renzo Piano. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
Renzo and I were both unemployed and we thought it'd be more fun | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
to be two unemployed than one unemployed, if you like. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
We got on very well. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:23 | |
When I met him, it was love at first sight, you know. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
I was totally iconoclast, you know, and Richard was, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
we were young, mad people. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
Bad boys in some ways. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
Like so many of their generation, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
both Richard and Renzo were fired up by the spirit of '68, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
the year when protests in Europe, above all in Paris, | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
came close to full-scale revolution. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
So when President Pompidou, a figure hated by the left, | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
announced an architectural competition, | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
Rogers refused on principle to even consider entering. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:02 | |
So I wrote a whole list of things which I didn't like - | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
I didn't like the idea of working for a President. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
And he actually made a beautiful text | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
that was a perfect explication why we should not do it. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:13 | |
I was against it and he was pro it. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
We had a very democratic discussion. I lost. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
We said OK, so let's be free. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
What can we do to break rules, to make...to make something different. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
What Pompidou wanted was a new art gallery and library. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
What Rogers and Piano designed was a fun palace, | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
where people would be free to do their own thing. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
Alongside their architectural sketches, | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
they submitted their own manifesto. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
The first paragraph says, "A place for all people, all ages, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
"all creeds, for the poor and the rich, for the old and the young." | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
To transform a place that used to be quite dusty, quite closed, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:57 | |
to something completely accessible, | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
something that celebrates the openness. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
Their design specified that all the walls and even the floors should be | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
moveable, to suit the changing desires of the building's users. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
It was as flexible and fantastical | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
as anything Archigram had dreamed up | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
and, even the architects assumed, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
no more likely to make it beyond the drawing board. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
When we knew that there were | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
681 entries, then we were sure that we never win. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:29 | |
And one morning a call came. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
It took me ten minutes to understand what the lady was talking about | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
and finally I got it. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
I said "Oh, my God!" | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
So I called Richard and told, "Hey, Vecchio." | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
Vecchio, which is what he calls me, old man, um, I'm four years older, | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
and he said, "Sit down, we've won the competition." | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
I said "Stop pulling my leg." | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
Thanks God he sat down because it was... | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
it was completely unexpected. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
And then the next day, we had to go to Paris. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
We arrived there and everybody was in dinner jackets, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
I mean, it was really glittery, only the way the French can do it, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
you know, and here we were with the sort of, you know, fuck-off-type | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
T-shirts one wore in those days and people wearing shorts | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
and, you know, miniskirts and so on, um, but they were immensely kind. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
The competition jury loved the concept. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
They didn't realise that was all Rogers and Piano had at the time. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
As the architects moved to Paris, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
they didn't actually know what they were going to build. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
There were people coming from all over the world there, you know, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
and nobody knew really what they were doing. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
Terrible problems with language. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:40 | |
We had Italians that didn't speak English, | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
English that didn't speak French. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
To be honest, the competition design was unbuildable. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
You know, sort of floundered around, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
trying to find out what was happening. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
We dug an absolutely colossal hole in the centre of Paris. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:02 | |
I do remember this sort of feeling of slight panic once, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
looking down this massive hole, and it was huge, | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
and thinking, "Christ, what the hell are we going to put in this hole?" | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
And gradually, over the next weeks, it became apparent that we were | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
in a war because the French were absolutely hopping up and down | 0:37:18 | 0:37:23 | |
that foreigners, non-French, had won a competition for what was going | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
to be, although we didn't realise at the time, a national monument. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
While Rogers battled to get his new-style art centre out of its hole, | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
his former partner was radically rethinking | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
a different type of building - the office. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
This is Ipswich. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:01 | |
It's a pleasant, if rather ordinary town. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
In 1975, it found itself with a most extraordinary building. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:09 | |
You may think it looks odd. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
I think it may be the nearest thing to a masterpiece | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
that the modern movement has produced in Great Britain so far. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
Norman Foster, with Michael Hopkins, created a building which, | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
in more ways than one, would prove the forerunner of the places | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
where many of us work today. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
For starters, it's shiny. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
If you look back at the people that changed the way that | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
architecture around us looks, there's not that many of them | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
and Norman Foster had a lot to do with persuading the architects | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
that followed him to use extensive glass all over their buildings. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:58 | |
Earlier generations of modern architects held | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
large panes of glass in place with concrete or steel supports. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
At Willis Faber, there's nothing between the sheets | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
except a thin layer of neoprene rubber. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
Rather than trying to support something from underneath, | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
it's much easier to hang it from the top. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
I mean, glass is immensely strong when it's suspended | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
and the glass is truly suspended around the edge. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
Foster perfected the art of framing huge sheets of glass | 0:39:24 | 0:39:28 | |
with next to nothing. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:29 | |
It was an extraordinary technical achievement. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
It made buildings look wonderfully precise and elegant and ethereal. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:38 | |
Back in the '70s, even the nation's leading glass manufacturer | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
had been sceptical about whether | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
a curtain wall of the size Foster wanted was remotely feasible. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
Pilkington's were nervous of it and they were worried about | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
whether they could do it. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
4,000 square metres, after all, the largest glass wall in Europe, | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
this was taking technology a whole lot further | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
in terms of flexibility and the fact it would go round curves | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
and everything else, so it was an enormous leap forward. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:10 | |
Oh, it was very radical. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:11 | |
The great thing about Willis is they were an insurance business | 0:40:11 | 0:40:16 | |
and they were prepared to take a punt on this working out, you know. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
As with Foster's work for the dockers, | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
this building was radical not only in terms of how it looked, | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
but also how it was designed to be used. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
Employees were treated to a garden on the roof and - | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
the height of '70s luxury - a heated swimming pool. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
The feature which proved most influential however was | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
the way the workers were arranged - | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
this was the first major office block in Britain | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
to be entirely open plan. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
It seemed you could get a better solution by bringing people | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
together on one floor, without, um, fixed walls between them, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:09 | |
and to create areas with moveable elements of furniture. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
It seemed a progressive idea at the time. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
Tear down the walls and everyone could come together in harmony - | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
the workplace as one big commune... | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
with typewriters. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
And the freedom promised by open plan wasn't just social, | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
it was structural. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
Fewer walls meant greater flexibility. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
It's a far better environment for today's changing functions. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
An instant flexible office facility that can parallel | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
the surging turbulent business life it serves. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
Large open spaces still needed to be organised somehow, | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
which is why American designers Herman Miller had pioneered | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
a system of modular office furniture. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
Building their British headquarters was a dream commission | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
for any young architect obsessed with adaptability. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
I think they interviewed six firms of architects for their UK factory | 0:42:04 | 0:42:09 | |
and Norman Foster was one of them. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
I know because they came straight from his office to our office, so... | 0:42:11 | 0:42:15 | |
Your business is changing constantly. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
Herman Miller believes your office should change with it. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
They had a very good patter about flexibility | 0:42:21 | 0:42:25 | |
and about how human beings weren't meant to be in boxes | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
and we liked all this. We thought, together, | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
we could design a factory building which was totally flexible. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
The particular innovation of this Farrell Grimshaw design was | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
to take the concept of adaptability | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
and apply it to the exterior of a building. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
All the wall panels here, whether plastic or glass, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
were interchangeable. | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
Where we wanted glass, we could put glazing up, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
we could just have solid walls et cetera and we could change them. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
It was an architecture which doesn't just sort of stand there | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
and you try and use it, | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
but architecture that you can manipulate and you can change. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
"Hold on, Geoff" if you like democracy in the workplace, | 0:43:16 | 0:43:20 | |
that's what was emerging. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:22 | |
The goal of flexibility was challenging notions | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
of how buildings functioned and consequently what they look like. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:30 | |
In Paris, Rogers and Piano had finally figured out | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
how to build their adaptable, accessible art centre. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
In the pursuit of architectural and political freedom, | 0:43:49 | 0:43:53 | |
they'd discarded their own early plans, | 0:43:53 | 0:43:55 | |
rejected architectural tradition and inverted structural convention. | 0:43:55 | 0:44:00 | |
The building itself is inside out. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
In other words, what you usually see inside goes on the outside. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
That means that inside is totally free of these elements | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
and so totally flexible. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
These large spaces, the equivalent of two football fields, | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
without a single vertical interruption. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:15 | |
You've got the ultimate Meccano box here, | 0:44:19 | 0:44:21 | |
where you can change everything, | 0:44:21 | 0:44:23 | |
you can build a little cell there, you can build a big space there, | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
you can have a moving floor there. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:28 | |
The architects couldn't find a Meccano set | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
with 150-foot-long pieces, however, | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
so their kit of parts had to be custom-made. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:39 | |
These huge things were made in a casting factory. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
It was a bit like Dante's Inferno. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
You know, it's extraordinary to see | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
because you've got these huge vats of molten steel | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
and you can mould something to the exact requirements, | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
which is a big advantage. | 0:44:56 | 0:44:58 | |
Obviously, aesthetically, it's very pleasing | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
because you can get any shape you want. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:02 | |
Quality is controlled in the factory. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
Everything arrives prefabricated, ready-finished. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
This building was put up faster than any building in Europe. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
The structure itself and the floors | 0:45:16 | 0:45:18 | |
all went up above ground in eight months, | 0:45:18 | 0:45:20 | |
just like a Meccano. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:21 | |
It wasn't just the structural engineering | 0:45:25 | 0:45:27 | |
which the architects had exposed to the public. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:31 | |
What you actually are seeing, which is new in this inside-out building, | 0:45:31 | 0:45:36 | |
is the mechanical services. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:38 | |
All those elements which are usually hidden behind a false ceiling | 0:45:38 | 0:45:41 | |
or a false wall. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:42 | |
From a functional point of view, | 0:45:42 | 0:45:44 | |
this also happens to be the part which you change most. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
The pipes are colour-coded - green for water, blue for air, | 0:45:47 | 0:45:51 | |
as if they were merely elements of a diagram. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
But filling an entire street of historic Paris | 0:45:53 | 0:45:56 | |
with supersized plumbing wasn't motivated purely by practicality. | 0:45:56 | 0:46:00 | |
The use of the machine language was really part of this rebellion, | 0:46:00 | 0:46:06 | |
to the fact that a cultural building should be like a tool | 0:46:06 | 0:46:11 | |
and not like a palace. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
French critics had once dismissed Rogers and Piano as "hippies". | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
They were, in fact, more like punks, | 0:46:21 | 0:46:23 | |
sticking two fingers up at conventions | 0:46:23 | 0:46:25 | |
of what a building should look like | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
and also at the Parisian authorities. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
I have to be honest, I certainly look at it and think, | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
"God, how did we get away with that?" | 0:46:35 | 0:46:38 | |
We just sort of didn't really bother about the planners and things. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
There was never a drawing of it. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:47 | |
They were just pipes and nobody's interested in pipes, are they? | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
And I don't think anybody outside the office was quite aware | 0:46:53 | 0:46:56 | |
of what was happening until it happened. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
We went through all the adventure of Pompidou | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
pretending we didn't talk French. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
"Je ne comprends pas." | 0:47:06 | 0:47:08 | |
"I don't understand" was our system. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
I think, just watching back, we were impossible people. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
Through their bloody-mindedness, | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
the team had got their design built more or less as they'd wanted, | 0:47:19 | 0:47:23 | |
but at first there was little to suggest | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
that anyone else would like it. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
We didn't have a single piece of positive media for six years. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:32 | |
There were all sort of comments in the paper, like, | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
"When are they going to take the scaffolding down?", | 0:47:35 | 0:47:37 | |
and all this sort of thing. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:38 | |
The fortunes of the project were transformed, however, by the public. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:50 | |
In its first year of opening, it attracted more visitors | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
than the Eiffel Tower or the Louvre - | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
over six million people. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:58 | |
It was immediately taken over by the young. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:01 | |
Within days of opening, it was full to the doors with young people. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:05 | |
Out of 681 entries to Pompidou's competition, | 0:48:09 | 0:48:13 | |
only Rogers and Piano had suggested | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
creating a public piazza on the site. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:18 | |
It became a meeting point for the whole of Paris. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:20 | |
The Pompidou Centre set the template for the modern arts landmark - | 0:48:24 | 0:48:29 | |
accessible, fun and iconic - | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
and some of its earliest visitors | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
have grown up to be architects themselves. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
I used to go to Paris while the Centre Pompidou was being built. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
It was a very important experience, | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
just to see such an extraordinary building. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
It's certainly the most radical building | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
of the post-war years, I think. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:52 | |
There aren't many buildings | 0:48:54 | 0:48:56 | |
that actually change things for ever, | 0:48:56 | 0:48:58 | |
that they change the way we look at the world. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:00 | |
Centre Pompidou spawned a new generation of architects | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
who unashamedly celebrated the art of engineering | 0:49:05 | 0:49:10 | |
in a way that was very explicit. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
Pompidou, created against all odds, felt at first like a one-off. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:19 | |
Yet, less than a year later, | 0:49:19 | 0:49:20 | |
Norman Foster unveiled an art gallery | 0:49:20 | 0:49:23 | |
which sounded remarkably similar. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
Aiming for a number of things - | 0:49:26 | 0:49:28 | |
to produce a building that didn't monumentalise art, | 0:49:28 | 0:49:34 | |
a building that would be open in its approach, | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
that would bring activities together. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
The interior itself is completely uncluttered, so that you can | 0:49:57 | 0:49:59 | |
adjust lights within it and you can move panels around and so on. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:03 | |
Flexibility - the building can change. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
Parts of it are open so you can get views out and natural light in. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:11 | |
The aims of Foster and Rogers were almost identical. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
The resulting buildings, however, looked very different. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:29 | |
Rogers' structure felt like a fantastical machine. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
Foster's architecture was rational and minimal, | 0:50:37 | 0:50:40 | |
less of a spaceship, more of an aircraft hanger. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:44 | |
There are obviously common denominators between us, | 0:50:45 | 0:50:48 | |
a sense of shared values. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:50 | |
But if you look at the directions in which we've evolved, | 0:50:50 | 0:50:54 | |
I think that you'll find that we've gone in different directions | 0:50:54 | 0:50:58 | |
and I think, you know, that's something to celebrate. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
While Foster was designing his temple | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
for Sir Robert and Lisa Sainsbury's art collection, | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
another of his collaborators decided to go solo. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:14 | |
Norman came up with the idea of this bloody great aircraft hangar. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:18 | |
I remember feeling that that was going off in the wrong direction | 0:51:19 | 0:51:22 | |
for that particular thing. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
And I was sort of half thinking of going on my own | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
and, anyway, Norman went on and built the Sainsbury Centre | 0:51:28 | 0:51:32 | |
and far from being the wrong thing, | 0:51:32 | 0:51:34 | |
it was always the best thing in Robert Sainsbury's collection. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:39 | |
You know, he really loved it. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:41 | |
So I was quite wrong. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:44 | |
Michael Hopkins immediately set up a new practice, | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
with an architect he already knew well - | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
Mrs Hopkins. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:53 | |
You came home to join me, really, didn't you? | 0:51:53 | 0:51:56 | |
Their first project was to build themselves a family home, | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
which took a strikingly different form from its Hampstead neighbours. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:07 | |
There would be no question at that moment in time... | 0:52:18 | 0:52:20 | |
..it was going to be a steel and glass box. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
It was an aesthetic that we really enjoyed, | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
the structure expressed on the inside. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:31 | |
In the way that we knew we liked things to look. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
Having built one of Britain's first open-plan office blocks, | 0:52:43 | 0:52:47 | |
Michael Hopkins now chose to live in a very open-plan home. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:51 | |
Initially, we didn't have any blinds around the perimeter. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
It became clear very quickly that we needed some blinds, | 0:52:56 | 0:53:00 | |
so we got the perimeter blinds | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
and then we went on to use blinds as the subdivision internally. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:07 | |
They're raised and lowered to adapt the space. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:10 | |
Le Corbusier had aspired to a house which was "a machine for living in". | 0:53:10 | 0:53:15 | |
50 years on, here was a home built like a factory, | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
from industrial materials. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:20 | |
Hello. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:22 | |
Photographs appeared in books and magazines across the world. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:26 | |
We've lived... How long have we lived here now? | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
-Um... -30-odd years. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:33 | |
Mmm, 35 years now. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:35 | |
It's exactly the same as it's always been. It's always been... | 0:53:35 | 0:53:38 | |
It's just us, really. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:39 | |
Haven't changed my mind about it one little jot in, er... | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
No. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:43 | |
I mean, I'd like... | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
I'd like the thing a bit bigger, bigger scale. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
The Hopkins house was a textbook example of what, by the late '70s, | 0:53:52 | 0:53:56 | |
was seen as a distinctive movement in architecture. | 0:53:56 | 0:54:00 | |
Hopkins, Foster, Rogers, Grimshaw and Farrell | 0:54:00 | 0:54:03 | |
were praised by critics for bringing modernism into the space age, | 0:54:03 | 0:54:08 | |
and their collective achievements now had a name - | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
high-tech. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:13 | |
But it hadn't come from the architects. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:15 | |
I've always rather objected to the word "high-tech". | 0:54:15 | 0:54:18 | |
It sort of implies some kind of fashion label or something. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:22 | |
High-tech, for God's sake, was going to the moon, | 0:54:22 | 0:54:24 | |
you know, I mean... | 0:54:24 | 0:54:26 | |
It doesn't really have anything much to do with real high technology, | 0:54:27 | 0:54:31 | |
digital technology, | 0:54:31 | 0:54:33 | |
but then Gothic has nothing to do with Goths either. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:38 | |
Stylistic labels have a life of their own. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
The writers who popularised the term "high-tech" had picked up | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
on something the architects rarely discussed. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:51 | |
Technology in their work wasn't only a means | 0:54:51 | 0:54:53 | |
of delivering more efficient buildings - | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
it was also their defining aesthetic. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
This century is very much the century of science | 0:54:58 | 0:55:02 | |
and we find that the analysis of science | 0:55:02 | 0:55:04 | |
helps us with the poetry of architecture. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
High-tech meant more than the rational application of engineering. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:13 | |
It was the celebration, | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
perhaps even fetishisation, of the imagery of technology. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:20 | |
Unfortunately, those were the qualities one of its inventors | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
began to distrust. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
It wasn't just a way of building, it was a style. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:29 | |
There were ideological fixers that everything had to be lightweight, | 0:55:29 | 0:55:34 | |
everything had to be synthetic and factory-made. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:37 | |
Farrell's doubts about high-tech were fuelled by plans | 0:55:38 | 0:55:42 | |
for the historic London district of Covent Garden. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:44 | |
The fruit and veg market moved out to this big shed, | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
quite techy kind of building, very efficient and so on, | 0:55:49 | 0:55:53 | |
so there was a whole district of empty and semi-derelict buildings. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:58 | |
So the proposal, if you continued the past 20 years, | 0:55:59 | 0:56:02 | |
was to knock it all down, start again. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
In fact, the student, Nicholas Grimshaw, | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
had designed a new scheme | 0:56:07 | 0:56:09 | |
for the whole Covent Garden site in the '60s. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:11 | |
There was no idea of conservation then. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
As far as we were concerned, | 0:56:15 | 0:56:17 | |
they were crummy, crumbling Victorian buildings | 0:56:17 | 0:56:20 | |
and we students were absolutely thrilled - | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
this was a real chance for something new. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:25 | |
But by the '70s, the public was beginning to question | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
whether new always meant better. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:33 | |
For the first time, opposition was growing, protest movements began | 0:56:35 | 0:56:39 | |
and I joined in the groups and I did several projects there. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:43 | |
I was able to argue for the retention of all the buildings | 0:56:43 | 0:56:47 | |
and I made a new courtyard | 0:56:47 | 0:56:49 | |
and we did almost, as it were, a demonstration scheme. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:51 | |
Farrell's new-found interest in conservation | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
set him on a collision course with his partner. | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
I got the most terrific excitement | 0:56:59 | 0:57:02 | |
and thrill out of working with the newer materials | 0:57:02 | 0:57:06 | |
and the possibilities for the future | 0:57:06 | 0:57:09 | |
and I didn't sense, really in any way, | 0:57:09 | 0:57:12 | |
that Farrell was interested in that. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:15 | |
Grimshaw saw it much more clearly than I did at the time | 0:57:15 | 0:57:19 | |
that it couldn't continue with two architects that were drifting apart, | 0:57:19 | 0:57:25 | |
as they say in marriages. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:27 | |
You know, Fosters and Rogers, | 0:57:27 | 0:57:29 | |
they were never longer than two or three years. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:31 | |
Ours was 15 years, and so when it went, | 0:57:31 | 0:57:33 | |
I felt a deep sense of loss and I felt this was like a death. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:38 | |
Farrell and Grimshaw split in 1980. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 | |
Their differences proved prophetic | 0:57:42 | 0:57:44 | |
for the difficult decade which architecture was about to enter. | 0:57:44 | 0:57:47 | |
MUSIC: "Are 'Friends' Electric?" by Tubeway Army | 0:57:47 | 0:57:49 | |
Heritage and high-tech would be pitted against each other | 0:57:49 | 0:57:53 | |
and the '60s radicals would have to adapt to a more conservative era. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:57 | |
In the next episode, high-tech defends itself against rival styles, | 0:57:58 | 0:58:02 | |
the press and even the heir to the throne. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
The new mission for the architecture of the future | 0:58:06 | 0:58:09 | |
was to get along better with the past. | 0:58:09 | 0:58:11 | |
You can learn more about iconic British designs | 0:58:14 | 0:58:17 | |
and the people behind them | 0:58:17 | 0:58:18 | |
with The Open University's interactive Building Stories. | 0:58:18 | 0:58:22 | |
Go to... | 0:58:22 | 0:58:23 | |
..and follow the links to The Open University. | 0:58:26 | 0:58:28 |