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By the 1980s, modern architecture was under attack. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
"It had failed so badly," some said, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
"we'd be better off going back to older styles of building." | 0:00:13 | 0:00:18 | |
But a bold young generation of British architects argued | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
the exact opposite. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
Instead of retreating into the past, | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
they were building gleaming visions of the future. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
During the 1970s, the work | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
of Richard Rogers, | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
Norman Foster, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
Nicholas Grimshaw, | 0:00:39 | 0:00:40 | |
Terry Farrell | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
and Michael Hopkins had begun to be seen as a movement - | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
"high-tech." | 0:00:46 | 0:00:47 | |
In their 20s and 30s, they'd collaborated | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
and shared a dream of how architecture could change the world. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:56 | |
In middle age, they'd become rivals, | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
and their work would become increasingly controversial. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
Yet a decade which threatened to break them would, instead, | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
make them. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:08 | |
These were the years when they created some of the towering | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
achievements of 20th-century design. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
They became the most successful generation of architects | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
Britain has ever produced. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
This, in their own words, is the story of how. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:25 | |
# Burning down the house | 0:01:25 | 0:01:26 | |
# Burning down the house! # | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
Like millions of others in late '70s Britain, Richard Rogers was | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
struggling to find work, even though he'd already created | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
a building that was famous all over the world. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
I, you know, I used to say nobody wanted another Pompidou. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
I think everybody thought we only built Pompidous. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
And actually I think people were somewhat afraid, | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
certainly clients would have been very bold to | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
make a commission to us after that building, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
which was very, very radical at the time. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
There was a vacuum, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
and I came to a moment in time when I thought I shan't be building | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
any more buildings. I'm not an architect, I'll be a teacher. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
It was very tough, and just at the moment of | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
the real low of lows, you're thinking, | 0:02:17 | 0:02:18 | |
"Well, maybe it's time to do other things." | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
We'd made the decision to go into a competition | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
for the Lloyd's of London building. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
The chances of winning seemed slim. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
Rogers was a left-winger who thought suits were square. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
The City of London was still a bastion of bowler-hatted tradition, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:40 | |
not the sort of chaps you'd expect to be fans of his work in Paris. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
I think Beaubourg made us take a deep breath. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:51 | |
For many of us, it is so radical in design, er, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:57 | |
we might have been frightened - in fact we weren't. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
They said one of the reasons that we chose you were | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
because you were very much like us. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:06 | |
And we thought, "Well, that's very strange," | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
cos these are traditional City gents | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
who are the venerated institution. Not a bit of it. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
Lloyd's, what do they do for a living? They take risk. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
Lloyd's had confidence in spades, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
and, you know, Lloyd's were very proud of who they were. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
They said to us, "We want a building that will reflect our stature | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
"within the world." | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
Rogers certainly delivered a building which made Lloyd's | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
stand out from the crowd. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
Design had begun, however, with another part of their brief - | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
to maintain their traditional style of doing business. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
The marketplace was prime. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
They wanted the whole market to feel as if it was trading in one room. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:10 | |
Which it always had done, philosophically, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
from its earliest days. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
MUSIC: "Paninaro" by Pet Shop Boys | 0:04:14 | 0:04:15 | |
So the heart of the Lloyd's Building is a single, very tall room, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
which splits trading over several open floors. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
They said, "One of the things we don't want is people in white coats | 0:04:29 | 0:04:34 | |
"fixing services in our trading floors." | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
As they were making a very large number of millions per day, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
in premiums, they didn't want that process disturbed. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
"Can you find another place to put the services, please?" | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
So everything that's a support service is outside. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
Developing the inside-out approach | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
first seen at the Pompidou Centre, toilets, staircases, | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
pipes and ducts are arranged round the perimeter of the building. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
That's where the lifts were put as well. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
And not just so they'd be easier for maintenance staff to reach. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
Aesthetically, movement can be a very pleasurable thing. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
I've never understood why one should get into a lift and rub shoulders | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
with lots of people you don't know in a dark box like a tomb. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
If you put it on the outside of the building, you suddenly get | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
the view, and movement becomes part of the enjoyment of life, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
not just part of the function of life. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
Despite the fact they appear to be restrained City gentlemen, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
they loved them, too, they're human beings. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
Once you get used to the notion of the vertiginous ride, it's fun. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
Architects don't like the term "high-tech", | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
but with creations like Lloyd's, you can see why the label stuck. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
It unapologetically uses materials such as stainless steel, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
which had once been the preserve of industry - not architecture. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
This is a machine for working in, with no superfluous decoration. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:20 | |
Instead, visual stimulation comes from structural engineering. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:25 | |
One of the things about working with architects like Richard | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
is that it not only has to work, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
but when it was finished, it had to look that you could see how | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
it had been put together | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
so you could see nodes, connections. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
Knuckles and joints. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
Which is actually a lot of the logic in these kind of buildings - | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
you see an object which explains how the thing was built. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
Though the high-tech generation had been building since the 1960s, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
Lloyd's was by far the biggest project any of them | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
had yet got off the ground in Britain. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
The basic concept of the design had been decided within two years | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
of winning the contest. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
Over the further six years it took to construct, however, Rogers | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
and his team were still puzzling out exactly how it would all work. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
It's the nearest thing I could imagine to being | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
working on a medieval cathedral | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
where there is this broad idea of principles | 0:07:29 | 0:07:35 | |
but then the nature of the fabric of it was... | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
was...was still being designed as it was being constructed. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
When the building was...is about to be completed, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
the Chairman of Lloyd's said to me, um, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
"Why didn't you tell us that it was going to look like that?" | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
And I remember I said, "But I didn't know." | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
Because in a sense, until you complete it, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
you don't really know where this leads to. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
If Rogers' creation resembled a cathedral, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
then the god it would worship was money. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
The City of London was increasingly turbo-charged | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
by the time the building opened in 1986, so the flashier | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
occupants of the Square Mile might have been expected to love it. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
It turned out to be a future people weren't quite ready for. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
It's a deeply shocking building, and I have to admit I don't like it yet. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
I've stood in front of it for a very long time trying to like it. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
I hope that the people who live in it like it. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
I don't like the fact that we can't operate in there the way | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
we have throughout the history of Lloyd's. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
It is an abortion. It's an excrescence, quite frankly. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
When I came to the opening of Lloyd's I sat next to, er, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:59 | |
the Dean of St Paul's, and he said, "What if... Do you feel beleaguered?" | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
And I said, "Yes, I feel pretty beleaguered." | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
All the headlines were, you know, "A terrible architect." | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
The public were not used to this type of building. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
Er, so it was the shock of the new. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
So on the whole the press saw it as | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
a destruction of a great historic tradition of the City of London. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
The attacks were wounding, because Rogers had tried to make | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
a building that would get along with its older neighbours. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
The area around Lloyd's is primarily medieval. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
Therefore when you come along the narrow roads as you approach | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
the building, you never actually see the building as a whole, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
you just see pieces, and the building is designed | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
to be seen in those pieces. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
In a sense, we've sculpted the roofscape | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
so as to make a building which is anchored | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
in the City of London by a series of towers | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
and which will be recognised from considerable distances away. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
For Rogers, mixing the old with the new was what architecture | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
had always done. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
But an increasingly conservative, and conservationist, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
culture disagreed, as he learned to his cost | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
while Lloyd's was still being built. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
In 1983, the National Gallery held a contest to design a new extension. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:21 | |
Rogers entered something high-tech. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
Not only did he lose the competition, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
it made him a target | 0:10:27 | 0:10:28 | |
for modern architecture's most prominent critic. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
Instead of designing an extension to the elegant | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
facade of the National Gallery, which complements it | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
and continues the concept of columns and domes, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
it looks as if we may be presented | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
with a kind of vast municipal fire station. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
I would understand better this type of high-tech approach | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
if you demolished the whole of Trafalgar Square and started again. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:59 | |
But what is proposed seems to me | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
like a monstrous carbuncle | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
on the face of a much loved and elegant friend. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
I thought the speech that Prince Charles made was | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
unbelievably rude. I thought it was appalling. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
And I think everybody was pretty shocked. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
It wasn't as it happens our building, but it could have been. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
I was perfectly proud to accept being a carbuncle | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
in the terms that he had put. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
Outside the architectural profession, however, there was | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
support for some of the Prince's criticisms. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
There were terrible problems | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
with architecture from the 1950s, '60s, '70s, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
which emerged very strongly | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
in the early 1980s. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:37 | |
So as Prince Charles spoke, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
many people in Britain were living in concrete apartment blocks | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
that were leaking, full of damp and condensation, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
lifts not working, so all the famous things that people know. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
But the Prince wasn't just complaining about the quality | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
of post-war construction, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
he was attacking the whole approach to architecture which Rogers | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
and his generation believed in - modernism. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
I find it hard, I must say, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
to appreciate architecture which shouts at you, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
strictly utilitarian designs - | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
flat roofs, uncompromising angles, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
an absence of any decoration at all. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
The love affair with revolutionary artificial | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
building materials which so often prove unsatisfactory in the end. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:26 | |
Though the high-tech group built more user-friendly buildings | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
than the concrete boxes of preceding generations, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
they still called themselves modernists. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
50 years earlier, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
the likes of Le Corbusier had tried to wipe clean the slate | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
of history. Ever since, architects had believed that only modern forms | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
could meet the needs of the modern age. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
But they could no longer ignore the concerns the Prince had voiced | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
so powerfully. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:52 | |
The architecture of the future had to find a way | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
to get along better with the past. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
One architect from their generation had been worrying about this | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
since the '70s. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
I think Charles was 99% right. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
It was true - most people did like traditional buildings | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
and traditional architecture. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:15 | |
That's the kind of houses they bought. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
It's something that architects had to register, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
they had to deal with that. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
Terry Farrell had once been seen as part of the high-tech movement. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:27 | |
In the '70s, he co-designed | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
and lived in this startling tower block. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
Effectively, Terry Farrell was | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
the apostate - he's the one who gave up the | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
holy grail of pure modernism. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
But Farrell didn't want to return to the traditional | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
styles of building the Prince of Wales was championing. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
Instead, he wanted to cherry-pick the best of past and present. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:51 | |
Postmodernism was a response to dreary, dull, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
mechanical modern architecture. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
It's a hybrid movement of many styles, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
many languages of architecture. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
You use ornaments, symbolism, colour. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
Architects were freeing themselves up to plunder history books | 0:14:16 | 0:14:22 | |
and to use history as a kind of play box. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
Architecture had been very stuffy and rigid | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
and form follows function, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
honest expression of materials... | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
I just put all that completely to | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
one side and, erm, I suddenly found released, artistically released. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:41 | |
Across the world, postmodernism | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
seemed to promise a new dawn | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
for architecture - and it was Farrell who created the first | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
significant example in Britain. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
When breakfast television was launched in 1983, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
the commercial service was broadcast from studios designed by Terry. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:07 | |
Hello, good morning, and welcome! | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
I deliberately made the front look as though it had | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
origins in the streamline modern of Hollywood. It had sunbursts | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
and had extruded lettering that went all along right through it, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
which various exhibition and other buildings in the '30s had done. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
On the canal side it's, I think... By keeping the old wall | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
and adding a bit of colour, and the kind of colour that you'd find | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
on canal boats, erm, it's really kept a continuity with the canal. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
And then inside, an interior that was pure theatre. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
There was something quite special about it. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
It was for a television company, it was meant to be dramatic, | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
it was meant to be playful. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:01 | |
It couldn't have looked more '80s. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
Yet its most famous features had been inspired | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
by architecture from centuries before. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
I remember Terry was away on holiday for a long weekend | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
or something in Venice. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
And I was looking around Venice at all these points | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
and gable ends, and I realised that they always put something on it, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
whether it was a cup and ball or a figure or what have you. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
And he called me up and said, "I've got it, I've got it, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
"I know ex... We must..." | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
He said, "The buildings here are covered in the most wonderful | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
"decoration and finials. They would look great on the top of TV-am. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
"And we'll do eggcups!" | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
And he said, "How many pinnacles are there on the rear elevation?" | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
And he came back and he said, "There are 11." | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
I said, "We have to build a 12, we have to have a dozen." | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
And sure enough, we managed to get another one in to have a dozen eggs. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:56 | |
The notorious eggcups - I remember being startled, | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
and I remember thinking, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
"Well, this is an acid test of what I've been saying. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
I said, "We're not going to design by committee. If that's what Terry | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
"wants to do, then in my opinion that is what we should let him do." | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
It was, you know, OK, bonkers, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
but it was enjoyably bonkers at a time where I think the nation | 0:17:14 | 0:17:20 | |
needed a little gaiety both in television and in architecture. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
Though TV-am cost just a fraction of its contemporary | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
the Lloyd's building, it established Farrell | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
as a major figure in British architecture, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
and it proved he could succeed without the man who'd been | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
his professional partner in the '60s and '70s, Nicholas Grimshaw. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:42 | |
TRIO: # Da, da, da | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
# Da, da, da... # | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
In the early '80s, Grimshaw was still building | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
the kind of uncompromising industrial architecture | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
which had been the speciality of his partnership with Farrell. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
At the time when TV-am was built, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
Grimshaw was probably the least fashionable architect | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
in the entire country because, you know, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
he was putting up sort of slick sheds. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
Was it Peter Jay who wrote this thing in the Sunday Times | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
about calling Terry Farrell a genius because of the eggcups? | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
-HE LAUGHS -And that got Nick very cross indeed. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
I never quite worked out why Terry Farrell | 0:18:24 | 0:18:30 | |
adopted postmodernism with such open arms as he did. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:36 | |
Nick is a very stubborn person, and he's got very firm beliefs. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:41 | |
And, you know, none of that stuff was allowed in the office. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
High-tech was now under attack on two fronts, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
from postmodernism as well as from the anti-modernism | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
which the Prince of Wales was seen as championing. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
In the early '80s, Foster and Rogers | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
were traumatised by the style question, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
and they started attacking postmodernism by name. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
And as a result, the battle of the styles took place, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:10 | |
which was really negative in many respects. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
The flavour of the year at that time | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
was pastiche, of a rather grotesque nature. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
I mean, it was the cartoon imagery of classical architecture. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:26 | |
Norman Foster had built an impressive reputation | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
with his sleek and minimal approach to modern architecture. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
But at the end of the '70s, the change in architectural fashions | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
and economic climate threatened to end his career. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
And I remember that period very well. No new projects were coming in. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
So we were - although we never said so at the time - | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
we were pretty desperate. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
Foster had entered the Lloyd's competition, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
but when beaten to that job by his former partner, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
Norman instead looked abroad for work. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
MUSIC: "Canton" by Japan | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
He entered a contest to build the new headquarters | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
for the Hong Kong and Shanghai Banking Corporation. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
We invested heavily in doing that competition. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
If we hadn't won it, I don't know... | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
Maybe we'd have survived, maybe not. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
Foster and his team threw everything they had | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
into trying to meet HSBC's ambitious brief. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
The bank wanted the best building in the world. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
Yeah, what does that mean? | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
I went with Norman to Hong Kong for the briefing that the bank gave. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:55 | |
And unlike any of the other practices | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
we stayed on for a few days after, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
trying to understand better the way in which the bank operated, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
to get behind the scenes, as it were. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
The bank's first reaction was, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
"Well, of course we'd have to tell the other competitors, wouldn't we?" | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
So I said, "Why would you have to tell the other competitors? | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
"If we're interested in your bank, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
"why would you share it with our competitors?" | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
"Yes, you've got a point. What can we tell you?" | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
And they said, "You'll hear something called feng shui, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
"and don't worry about feng shui." | 0:21:31 | 0:21:32 | |
So I was immediately curious and I consulted a feng shui man. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:38 | |
He did a drawing, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
had a conversation, we paid him a fee. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
And actually the final design, as built, | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
has some considerable similarities to that sketch that was produced! | 0:21:48 | 0:21:54 | |
MUSIC: "Living On The Ceiling" by Blancmange | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
I think the Hongkong and Shanghai Bank | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
is one of the great buildings of the 20th century. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
If you had to pick a top ten, it would be up there. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
# And I'm so tall, I'm so tall... # | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
And yet in 1979, when Foster won the competition, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:27 | |
he'd never built anything taller than four storeys. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
I can remember the day it was announced, and I remember | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
there were a few glasses of champagne | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
that we were drinking in the office, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
and after a minute or two we started to look round at each other | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
and realised, "How the hell are we going to do this?" | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
"We've won it, but now we're going to have to build it!" | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
The design was far from settled at that stage. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
All Foster knew for certain | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
is that he didn't like most of the towers | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
which had been built previously. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
So many high-rise buildings, in retrospect, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
are like so many kind of dumb boxes. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
They're anonymous, they're hostile, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
the only difference from one floor to the other | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
is the number on the lift car or the door in the corridor. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
There's no progression of space, they're intimidating, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
they're soulless. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
Foster and his team decided they could do better. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
They set out to reinvent the skyscraper. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
I think coming to a building type that you've not done before | 0:23:32 | 0:23:38 | |
makes you think very hard. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
You have no preconceptions, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:42 | |
you start with a clean sheet of paper. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
He just brainstormed it to the nth degree. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
In just over a year, something like 5,000 drawings, 500 models. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
Models of the structure, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
drawings at a close-up scale. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
The way that something will bolt together, junction together. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
The things that hold the building, drive the building. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
I count myself very fortunate | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
that I worked first for Roger and then for Foster's. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
Cos they share a very rigorous approach | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
where you carefully define all the issues, the problems | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
you're going to solve before you try to solve them. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
Not only two-dimensionally, but also as a model. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
Three-dimensional study model here, to explore what it looks like, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
how it might assemble. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
We tested options, you know, we looked at other ways to do it. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
So here we're showing the possibility of a deck | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
that connects then right out to the water, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
in the same spirit of Venice, if you like. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
Nothing was designed or built that hadn't gone through | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
a very rigorous process, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
that there were very, very strong reasons that it should be thus. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
The bank encouraged us to look at the big wide world | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
and actually see what was available. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
"Don't just come to us with European ideas. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
"What's available in America? What's in Japan? | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
"What's in other parts of the planet?" | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
The idea of getting all these building components from all over | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
the world, and of making them conform to one architectural vision. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
The scale of its ambition is one reason why it's a great building. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
What this exhaustive design process produced | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
was a structure like no other. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
It's questioning the nature of a tall building. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
Every tall building up to that point had a central core, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
it was like a kebab. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
If you took the core from the heart of the building, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
which had never been done before, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
and you moved it to the edges so you could see through the space, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
everybody would have a better working environment. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
It's wonderful - the idea of suspending | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
the whole building from those two rows of masts. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
Like a multi-storey suspension bridge. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
The vast open-plan interior could be arranged more flexibly | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
and adapted more easily - | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
obsessions of Foster and his peers since the '60s. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
The suspended structure also gave something back to the city. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:19 | |
What's amazing about the HSBC project is that in Hong Kong | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
real estate is extremely expensive, and here is the ground floor, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
which is usually seen as the grand welcome entrance for most projects. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
You know, you come up to this extraordinary bank | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
and actually all you have are two escalators | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
coming down to the ground and an extraordinary open plaza. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
Then you look up into the belly of this glass building | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
and realise, "Oh, THAT'S the building, the building's up there." | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
For a building like that to make such a gesture was profound. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
HSBC paid an unprecedented price for their building - | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
over a billion pounds in today's money. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
Shipping components from 80 different countries | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
and pioneering new industrial processes didn't come cheap. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:05 | |
At that time it was thought to be | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
the most expensive building in the world. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
I talked to the clients, so I knew the people in Hong Kong quite well | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
and they would defend it as the most expensive building in the world | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
because they said, "It's a work of art, and any work of art, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
" you have to spend as much money as it takes." | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
Earlier in his career, Foster had specialised in low-cost, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:32 | |
right-on buildings. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
Now he'd created the ultimate luxury object for a bank. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
A man who'd always sought flexibility in his architecture | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
was adapting perfectly to the spirit of the '80s. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
It was a building which made his international reputation. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
After that he could do anything in the world. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
It summarised, at the highest level, high-tech. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
Only one contemporary project could seriously be considered its equal - | 0:28:02 | 0:28:07 | |
Lloyd's. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
The two towers had more than just height in common - | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
they had similar aims, similar budgets and the same roots. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:20 | |
Foster and Rogers had, after all, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
been friends since the '60s as well as rivals. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
I think there's no question there was a great competitive element | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
between Norman Foster and Richard Rogers - | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
I mean, they spurred each other on though. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
To say that there was competition between the two | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
would be to put it, you know, mildly. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
These things sort of came to a head when the traditional cricket match | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
came up, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
and the gloves came off between the people in the two practices. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
As the '80s drew on, however, Foster had another serious rival. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:57 | |
One who, like Rogers, had once been his collaborator. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
This was the building which proved Michael Hopkins | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
could be just as inventive as Foster and Rogers, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
and secured his place in the front rank of British architects. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
It's the research and development base for an oil technology company. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
It's on quite a prominent site on the edge of Cambridge, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
and you couldn't just stick an ordinary old factory roof on it | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
if you wanted to. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
It needed something more particular. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
Like Foster's Hongkong Bank, this structure is suspended from above | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
rather than supported from below. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
Every roof needs to be held up somehow. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
You can do it with a forest of columns which fill a whole interior, | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
or you can stick a maypole in the middle of your roof | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
and hang it off that pole. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
It's a landmark, it's an eye-catcher. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:07 | |
It says, "We're doing something special." | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
At Schlumberger, Hopkins combined this novel approach to structure | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
with an innovative new material. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
This fabric is collectively known as PTFE glass, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
polytetrafluoroethylene, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
which is woven glass fibres covered in Teflon. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
But it had the huge benefit of being non-stick, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
so it's sort of self-cleaning, sparkling in the sunshine, | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
and the glass fibres are very, very strong. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
At the research laboratory, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
the fabric covers a central area for mechanical work | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
as well as staff social areas. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
It forms tents, which join together the office | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
and lab areas running along each side of the plan. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:01 | |
It's not like a boy scout tent or even a circus tent. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:06 | |
They flap about and they don't stand up. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
This one has to stand up against all the wind loadings, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
snow loadings that any other roof has to deal with, | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
and it has to be there permanently. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
To make a strong enough structure out of fabric, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
the engineers sought digital help. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
This was one of the first buildings designed, in part, by computers. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:32 | |
In architectural engineering | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
I don't think anything had relied so much upon the computer. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
Software had to specially developed and written | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
that would compute the shape, or form-find it, as we call it. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
Computer drawing was almost unheard of at that time, | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
and that was pretty special because you didn't start with sketches | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
and drawings, you started with numbers. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
Some people find it very difficult to believe | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
that a mathematical process could generate a sculpture, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
and so we then made a physical model using hand-sewn pieces of canvas | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
attached to the wires and tension rods with screws and threads, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
just to make sure we'd got it right. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
This is high-tech as sci-fi. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
While postmodernism was playing about with the past, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
the remaining high-tech true believers | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
seemed ever more determined in their pursuit of the future. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
So even when building something | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
as ordinary as an inner-city supermarket, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
Nicholas Grimshaw refused to compromise | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
on his industrial approach. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
We didn't waver one inch from our belief | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
in our new palette of materials, and in modernism generally. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
The structure's really - even though I say it myself - | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
a bit of a tour de force. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
You can see these great bunches of ties coming down, | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
and it sort of gives the building, I think, enormous kind of strength | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
and impact in the street, instead of being a rather sort of bland box. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:19 | |
Grimshaw gave a nod to his building's older neighbours | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
in the arrangement of these rods, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
which hold down the cantilevered roof. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
We put them at the same sort of rhythm as the party walls | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
of the Georgian houses opposite. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
And in an odd kind of way, it does echo the scale of the buildings | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
on the other side of the street. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
I actually think it fits in rather well. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
No other supermarket built in the '80s looked anything like this. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
But it owed its existence not to shoppers' demands, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
nor even Sainsbury's desires, | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
but to a powerful architects' department at the local council. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
We had a sympathetic planning authority, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
so we managed to do something quite radical. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
Grimshaw's weren't Sainsbury's first choice of architects for the job, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:13 | |
but the die-hard modernists at Camden Council | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
had rejected all the previous designs | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
which the supermarket had proposed for the site. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
They started off with their standard Surrey farmhouse style, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:26 | |
which is a brick building with a pitched roof. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
And then they tried bypass-Tudor, | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
which there's a pub on the corner, still there, | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
with, you know, wood nailed onto the outside. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
The planners were getting pretty fed up by then, and they said, | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
"Look, you've tried all these styles on us, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
"all we want is a decent building." | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
And so, somewhat in desperation, I think, Sainsbury's turned to us. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
And by that time they were so sort of beaten up, Sainsbury's, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
they let us do what we wanted to do. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
By odd coincidence, Grimshaw's supermarket | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
was built round the corner from Farrell's TV-am building. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
Within a few metres of each other, the former partners now presented | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
wildly divergent visions of architecture. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
Whereas the back of Farrell's building had responded | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
to its setting by echoing the colours of nearby canal boats, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
what Grimshaw built behind his supermarket | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
made no concessions to context or tradition. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
It was a terrace of high-tech homes, built when most house builders | 0:35:27 | 0:35:32 | |
had reverted to red brick and pitched roofs. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
We felt, rightly or wrongly, that the whole site had to be a piece. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
And we felt we had developed an expertise in working metal. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
And, I have to admit, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
we were at that time obsessed with that kind of imagery, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
and we aspired to a kind of showroom gleam. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
At a time when whole estates | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
were built in neo-Georgian toytown pastiche, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
Grimshaw and his team were sticking to high-tech | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
with steely determination. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
The world will catch up. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
I think that was... Putting it bluntly, that was the attitude. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
By the late '80s, the world WAS paying attention | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
to Britain's high-tech architects. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
They were treated with increasing respect abroad. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
It was on home turf where scepticism remained strongest. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
You have, ladies and gentleman, to give this much to the Luftwaffe. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
When it knocked down our buildings, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
it didn't replace them with anything more offensive than rubble - | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
WE did that. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:37 | |
This royal broadside was provoked by plans for a major development | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
next to St Paul's Cathedral, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
replacing a 1960s scheme which even fans of modernism | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
had to admit wasn't very good. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
In 1987, an architectural contest was held | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
to come up with a replacement. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
Both Rogers and Foster entered. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
But once again, Prince Charles was unimpressed | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
with all the modern schemes proposed. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
None of them, I believe, address the primary problems | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
of appropriateness and architectural good manners. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
I would like to see the kinds of materials Wren might have used, | 0:37:15 | 0:37:20 | |
and the ornament and detail of classical architecture. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
Rogers was selected as part of the team | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
who would build the new Paternoster Square. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
After the Prince's intervention, however, his scheme was scrapped, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
and the architect was to be further disappointed | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
when his royal opponent was invited | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
to debate their differences in public. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
Back came this message from Buckingham Palace, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
"The Prince does not debate." That's what got my...got me. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
Within a democracy, it's not on. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
Instead, the two set out their rival visions of architecture | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
in separate films for the BBC. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
I am not interested in copying styles. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
That is actually belittling history. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
I'm interested in learning FROM history. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
There is no need for buildings, | 0:38:04 | 0:38:05 | |
just because they house computers and word processors, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
to look like machines themselves. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
There seemed no end in sight for high-tech's battle with heritage. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
MUSIC: "Moments In Love" by The Art Of Noise | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
But then, one of Rogers' peers called a ceasefire. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
At Lord's Cricket Ground, Michael Hopkins surprised everyone | 0:38:32 | 0:38:37 | |
with a new-found willingness to engage with architectural history. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
When I first started work with Michael Hopkins | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
their architecture was what people would call "high-tech". | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
But then Lord's was the turning point. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
And that's when it began to get quite different. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
The first time going to Lord's I was absolutely | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
sort of knocked out by the place - particularly the Pavilion | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
which has this marvellous Edwardian light, lacy, | 0:38:59 | 0:39:04 | |
very English summer quality about it. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
Hopkins' brief was to replace a crumbling | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
19th-century part of the ground. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
The standard modernist response | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
would have been to knock it down and start again. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
The Mound Stand, as it was before, | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
was very popular to the cricketing fans. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
The roof was shot, but the brickwork underneath was very nice. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:30 | |
And in one of these sort of design sessions where you're thinking | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
of all sorts of things, I suggested, "Why don't we keep the bottom bit?" | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
It was one of those sort of suggestions you make | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
slightly sort of toe-in-water, you know. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
"I'm only an engineer, but how about we keep this?" You know. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
And that's really what we did. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
Rather than inventing something new for it, | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
we kept the good bits of the Victorian outside wall | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
and just copied it and extended it on. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
And then you rise up from that | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
in a really gutsy bit of modern engineering. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
For a modernist architect to emulate the Victorians was a surprise, | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
because it smacked of postmodernism. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
Brickwork was the antithesis of high-tech - a labour intensive, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:36 | |
messy, piecemeal, site-based process. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
But somehow, it captured Hopkins' imagination. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
He fell in love with bricks. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
Maybe you will get an interesting architecture out of brick, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
and it would feel more contemporary if you made it hold | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
the bloody building up rather than just sticking it on as a facade. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
Whenever you see a Hopkins brick pier, | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
it really does support the building. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
It isn't a steel column hidden inside, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
which is what most architects would do these days. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
MUSIC: "Christian" by China Crisis | 0:41:08 | 0:41:09 | |
Hopkins used fabric for the roof, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
as he'd done at the Schlumberger Research Centre | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
and as he'd go on to do in many future projects. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
The result was something even Prince Charles could enjoy. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
-PRINCE CHARLES: -It seems to me to capture the spirit of Lord's, | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
with a suggestion of marquee tents and Edwardian summer days. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:34 | |
Everyone welcomed it. The Establishment loved it | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
as well as the progressive architects. It was a great hit. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
Other commissions from traditional institutions began to follow. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
High-tech was slowly winning over the sceptics. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
But it remained a relatively rare sight in late '80s Britain. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:57 | |
The property developers who transformed Britain's cities | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
during the third Thatcher term much preferred postmodernism. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
These were the years when Terry Farrell made the leap | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
from critically-acclaimed but small-scale projects | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
to big-budget buildings. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
He now had three gargantuan office blocks | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
under construction in different parts of London, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
including one which achieved worldwide fame. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
MUSIC: "Safe From Harm" by Massive Attack | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
It is James Bond's headquarters, MI6! | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
Like his other office blocks, | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
Vauxhall Cross was commissioned by a private developer. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
Only when the design was well under way | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
did Farrell learn an arm of government wanted to move in. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:59 | |
I had no idea I was building MI6. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
I was told it was a government headquarters, | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
and we guessed, wrongly, very early on | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
that it was for the Department of the Environment. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
I put the trees on the top | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
particularly because it was the Department of the Environment. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:17 | |
The building was finished and handed over, | 0:43:20 | 0:43:23 | |
and I was watching television and on the screen, | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
"The British have announced that this is the headquarters of MI6." | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
The imposing appearance of the building was inspired | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
not by its eventual occupants, but by its position on the river. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:40 | |
The Thames brings out of Londoners | 0:43:40 | 0:43:44 | |
a different response of scale and stature. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
If you look along the river banks, | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
you see the buildings much more clearly in silhouette. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
They have great stature. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
So I argued you could build a palazzo of height and bulk | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
and drama and scale. | 0:43:57 | 0:44:01 | |
It is a really masterful essay | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
in this kind of layered contradiction | 0:44:08 | 0:44:12 | |
between steel and glass, masonry - the classical and high-tech - | 0:44:12 | 0:44:17 | |
and in many ways was a high point of British postmodernism. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:22 | |
And it was attacked, of course, by the modernists | 0:44:25 | 0:44:28 | |
for being a little bit Egyptian, being a bit Art Deco, | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
for being like a set for Aida, the opera - which it is... | 0:44:31 | 0:44:37 | |
I know it's received an awful lot of criticism and so on. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:41 | |
I was told that in the latest James Bond film, | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
when they blew up the building, | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
an architect had taken several friends to see the movie | 0:44:46 | 0:44:50 | |
and they all cheered when it was blown up, inside the cinema. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:54 | |
MUSIC: "Enjoy The Silence" by Depeche Mode | 0:44:54 | 0:44:56 | |
The more successful Terry became, the more he found himself | 0:44:58 | 0:45:02 | |
the number one target for the opponents of postmodernism. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
I got a huge amount of antagonism thrown at me. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
It was partly a case of guilt by association. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
There were firms in Britain that took on the mantle | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
of postmodernism and did some dreadful buildings. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
In the hands of the commercial world, | 0:45:23 | 0:45:26 | |
it becomes too much, you know, glitz and bling. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:30 | |
People were thinking this can't develop. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:32 | |
How many more pink and grey shiny granite pedimented buildings | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
with bobbles on do we want, really? | 0:45:35 | 0:45:37 | |
By 1991, when Farrell's new building for Charing Cross station | 0:45:37 | 0:45:42 | |
was completed, the backlash was well under way. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:46 | |
Tastemakers looked instead to another station | 0:45:46 | 0:45:48 | |
just across the river, being built by Terry's former partner | 0:45:48 | 0:45:52 | |
who'd stayed steadfast to high-tech. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:55 | |
MUSIC: "Voyage, Voyage" by Desireless | 0:45:55 | 0:45:57 | |
Digging of the Channel Tunnel had begun in earnest in 1988, | 0:46:07 | 0:46:11 | |
so London needed a new terminus for the high speed | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
international trains which would go through it. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
It was a very, very hard fought competition, | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
and we absolutely put everything we had into getting that job. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:26 | |
We knew that it was very exciting, | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
because the French side were not doing very much to Gare du Nord | 0:46:31 | 0:46:36 | |
so we felt that we could do something rather special. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:40 | |
Something heroic was needed. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:44 | |
The site for the new station wasn't heroic, however - | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
a tight and irregular bit of leftover land. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
It was a bit like being given a foot | 0:46:55 | 0:46:57 | |
and being asked to design a sock to pull over it. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
It was a very twisting, difficult geometry. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
Normally, the way in a complex shape it would be dealt with | 0:47:02 | 0:47:05 | |
would be to have thousands of different shaped pieces of glass, | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
and then you would have to marry - | 0:47:08 | 0:47:10 | |
each piece would be a special bespoke piece. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:12 | |
This was the thing that really terrified the project managers - | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
they saw this convoluted shape | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
and said, "That will cost you a hell of a lot more money." | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
We had to, in some way, make the thing | 0:47:20 | 0:47:22 | |
so that we had mass-produced components to bring... | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
to keep the price down. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:26 | |
To allow the roof to change shape with the site, | 0:47:29 | 0:47:32 | |
the team devised a "loose fit" glazing system. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
It's all tiled with regular rectilinear sheets. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
The panels overlap, which means that you can get this kind of adjustment. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:45 | |
So each layer goes one over the other, and then by creating | 0:47:47 | 0:47:51 | |
this special set of hands that can move in any direction, that dealt | 0:47:51 | 0:47:55 | |
with the difficulty of joining the glass back to the steel structure. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
There was a period in the site offices where you kept seeing | 0:47:58 | 0:48:02 | |
people demonstrating how the bracket works and how it adjusted. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
"No, no, no, it's like this!" | 0:48:05 | 0:48:07 | |
SIR NICHOLAS GRIMSHAW: We were involved absolutely | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
down to the last nut and bolt. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
The steel components were specially cast for the project | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
in a foundry, having been designed by Nick and the team. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
There were a number of tubular elements coming into one point - | 0:48:26 | 0:48:30 | |
if we'd rammed them all together and tried to sort of weld them up | 0:48:30 | 0:48:34 | |
in a great kind of gnarled knot, it would have looked horrible. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:38 | |
So what we did was we did this casting like a kind of heart valve, | 0:48:38 | 0:48:42 | |
with short stubs coming out of it for each of the tubes to fit over... | 0:48:42 | 0:48:48 | |
..so it was a beautiful, functional thing. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
Waterloo International met with huge public, as well as critical, | 0:49:00 | 0:49:04 | |
enthusiasm when it opened in 1994. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:08 | |
Sometimes everything goes right. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:10 | |
This was going to be a special moment in history, | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
the first train through the Channel Tunnel, ribbon-cutting with | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
the Queen and Mitterrand, and we wouldn't have been allowed | 0:49:15 | 0:49:20 | |
to make such an ebullient building, er, for a lesser moment. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:24 | |
Here was a work of uncompromising modern architecture | 0:49:30 | 0:49:33 | |
which didn't upset the heritage brigade. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
One reason might have been that elegantly engineered glass roofs | 0:49:36 | 0:49:40 | |
were themselves part of British history - | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
going back to the Crystal Palace of 1851, | 0:49:42 | 0:49:46 | |
and the first Victorian railway stations. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:48 | |
Those structures had always been a very direct inspiration | 0:49:48 | 0:49:52 | |
for the high-tech generation. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:54 | |
My colleagues Foster and Hopkins would have said | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
exactly the same thing - it's more or less running | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
in a straight line from Paxton and Brunel up to the present day. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:05 | |
Paxton, with the Crystal Palace, still holds the record | 0:50:06 | 0:50:10 | |
for the maximum space covered in the minimum amount of time. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:14 | |
Waterloo proved postmodernists weren't the only ones | 0:50:19 | 0:50:22 | |
who could draw inspiration from architectural history. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:26 | |
I think there was a feeling, | 0:50:26 | 0:50:28 | |
"Let's get back to something a little more earthy and serious." | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
You get sick of postmodernism very quickly. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
You know, we were the glass of cold water that everyone | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
needed to drink after a rich meal, I think. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:39 | |
Like the Grimshaw team, | 0:50:42 | 0:50:44 | |
Norman Foster never wavered from his modernist belief | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
that well-engineered structures don't need dressing up. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:51 | |
The project he unveiled in 1992 would prove to millions | 0:50:51 | 0:50:56 | |
of visitors each year that high-tech was nothing to be scared of. | 0:50:56 | 0:51:00 | |
British Airports Authority at the time was | 0:51:00 | 0:51:04 | |
headed out by an engineer, Norman Payne. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:07 | |
And he said, quite simply, "I want a new generation airport." | 0:51:07 | 0:51:14 | |
The other challenge he gave us was he wanted the building to be | 0:51:14 | 0:51:19 | |
between 15 and 20% cheaper than any terminal that he'd built previously. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:26 | |
So not only did we have to reinvent the terminal, | 0:51:26 | 0:51:28 | |
it had to be considerably cheaper. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
Foster and his team, as was now their custom, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
exhaustively analysed the whole concept of airport design. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:40 | |
They found plenty of room for improvement. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:43 | |
So often in earlier terminals, you didn't know where the hell you were, | 0:51:45 | 0:51:49 | |
which way you were facing and which way you were meant to go. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
The act of travel raises the level of anxiety in a lot of people, | 0:51:52 | 0:51:56 | |
so what you want to do is to make the experience | 0:51:56 | 0:52:00 | |
as easy, as enjoyable as possible. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
Um...and the way to do that is | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
to provide a terminal building | 0:52:05 | 0:52:09 | |
that gets rid of all the clutter. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:10 | |
It's very open, very clear, easy to navigate. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
With the views out, you can see the plane, you know where you're going. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:34 | |
Essentially, Stansted is... is one very large room. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:39 | |
And everything happens in that room as far as the passengers | 0:52:39 | 0:52:44 | |
are concerned, both arriving and departing. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
All of the grubby, oily, engineering stuff - | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
you know, the baggage handling, | 0:52:53 | 0:52:54 | |
the air conditioning - would be in the basement and feed upwards, | 0:52:54 | 0:52:58 | |
so that people would then be separated from | 0:52:58 | 0:53:00 | |
the works of the building. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
Traditionally, all of this mechanical plant | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
had been placed on the roof. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:07 | |
So this idea of turning the building literally upside down | 0:53:07 | 0:53:12 | |
also saved money, because we didn't have to have a great beefy structure | 0:53:12 | 0:53:17 | |
supporting all this heavy plant up in the air. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:19 | |
The roof then only had to keep the water out, and it can let natural | 0:53:23 | 0:53:28 | |
light in throughout the whole depth and footprint of the building. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:33 | |
The trees, as we call them, because they fan outwards, erm, | 0:53:37 | 0:53:40 | |
they hold up the roof, but they also order the space as well, | 0:53:40 | 0:53:44 | |
they give it a clarity, a sense of rhythm, | 0:53:44 | 0:53:47 | |
of order, of movement, of progression. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:50 | |
Compared to the engineering gymnastics | 0:53:52 | 0:53:54 | |
of the Hongkong Shanghai Bank, Stansted is calmer, | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
more minimal architecture, and easier, perhaps, | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
for the public to like. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
That didn't mean it was easier to design. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:04 | |
In the end, I think that the simplicity is deceptive. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:10 | |
It's like writing a poem - it's easier to write an essay. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:13 | |
This is Foster's genius - that he can make something | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
intensely difficult seem obvious and effortless. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:20 | |
Having already reinvented the skyscraper, | 0:54:22 | 0:54:25 | |
Foster had successfully reinvented the airport. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:29 | |
That model has been adopted by every architect, | 0:54:29 | 0:54:33 | |
every airport planner - and that, of course, is the ultimate compliment. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:39 | |
It's been very flattering that it has been interpreted | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
in all sorts of very interesting ways by architects across the world. | 0:54:42 | 0:54:47 | |
Foster and his peers had argued since the '60s that modern | 0:54:48 | 0:54:52 | |
architecture should reflect the advanced technology of modern life. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:56 | |
When they started building airports, | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
everyone could see their point. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:01 | |
Try to imagine a world | 0:55:01 | 0:55:03 | |
in which the latest aircraft comes into a neo-Georgian airport. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:09 | |
I mean, it's not going to work, is it? | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
So it seems likely that an airport would commission an architect | 0:55:11 | 0:55:16 | |
like Norman Foster, rather than one of the Prince of Wales' team. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
But by the mid-'90s, traditional styles of architecture | 0:55:23 | 0:55:26 | |
were losing out to high-tech even in historic locations. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:30 | |
Foster showed the light, minimal approach he'd used in Stansted | 0:55:32 | 0:55:36 | |
could work equally well in the midst | 0:55:36 | 0:55:38 | |
of the 19th-century Royal Academy in London. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
Once, the prospect of an English country house like Glyndebourne | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
getting a high-tech extension | 0:55:47 | 0:55:49 | |
would have caused outraged cries of "Carbuncle!" | 0:55:49 | 0:55:53 | |
Yet in 1994, even the most traditional of opera goers | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
applauded the new theatre by Hopkins Architects. | 0:55:56 | 0:56:00 | |
High-tech had proved its versatility and diversity, | 0:56:00 | 0:56:05 | |
and firms which were fighting for their lives at the start | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
of the '80s were finally booming. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:10 | |
But with their form of modernism rehabilitated, | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
what need was there for postmodernism? | 0:56:13 | 0:56:16 | |
Farrell was then in the wilderness. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:20 | |
And so for ten years during the '90s, | 0:56:20 | 0:56:22 | |
I never got a single commission in London - where I lived! | 0:56:22 | 0:56:26 | |
MUSIC: "Belfast" by Orbital | 0:56:27 | 0:56:29 | |
Farrell instead set up shop, very successfully, | 0:56:31 | 0:56:34 | |
in Asia, where he spent much of the '90s | 0:56:34 | 0:56:37 | |
building projects like Hong Kong's Peak Tower. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:40 | |
Meanwhile, those who stuck with high-tech | 0:56:45 | 0:56:47 | |
were now in demand across the world. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:50 | |
The architectural axis shifted to Britain, without question, | 0:56:54 | 0:56:58 | |
without question, | 0:56:58 | 0:56:59 | |
and Rogers and Foster were the most influential architects in the world, | 0:56:59 | 0:57:03 | |
I think, at that time. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:05 | |
Eight years after the Lloyd's building caused such a ruckus, | 0:57:05 | 0:57:08 | |
Rogers' London headquarters for Channel 4 | 0:57:08 | 0:57:12 | |
opened without a squeak of controversy. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:14 | |
Even the British public now seemed at ease with high-tech buildings, | 0:57:14 | 0:57:18 | |
and their architects were no longer public enemies. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:22 | |
In 1996, Richard Rogers became Lord Rogers of Riverside. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:28 | |
Soon after, he was joined by Lord Foster of Thames Bank. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:32 | |
Grimshaw, Hopkins and Farrell were all knighted too. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:36 | |
Men who had once been radical outsiders | 0:57:36 | 0:57:39 | |
were slowly edging into the Establishment. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 | |
MUSIC: "Porcelain" by Moby | 0:57:43 | 0:57:45 | |
Yet, at an age where many would think of retiring, | 0:57:47 | 0:57:50 | |
they showed no signs of slowing down. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:53 | |
In the next programme, the stories behind some of their most | 0:57:53 | 0:57:56 | |
iconic buildings and biggest controversies. | 0:57:56 | 0:58:00 | |
Moving into the heart of power | 0:58:00 | 0:58:02 | |
produced a whole new set of problems. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
You can learn more about iconic British designs | 0:58:08 | 0:58:10 | |
and the people behind them | 0:58:10 | 0:58:12 | |
with The Open University's interactive Building Stories. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:16 | |
Go to... | 0:58:16 | 0:58:20 | |
and follow the links to The Open University. | 0:58:20 | 0:58:23 |