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Lenny Henry started off as being a comic... | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
"Get up! It's time for Sunday school!" | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
You'd go, "God!" | 0:00:12 | 0:00:13 | |
And she'd go, "Yes, he's going to be there as well!" | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
..and has transformed himself, by a lot of hard work, | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
into one of the most brilliant actors. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
Oh, my fair warrior! | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
Oh, my dear Othello. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:25 | |
And he's a man of many, many talents. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
And it's amazing how he does it. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:30 | |
He makes it look so easy. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
He's tried all sorts of things. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:37 | |
But unlike most people who try lots of things | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
and fall flat on their face, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:41 | |
the sickening thing about Lenny, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
he can actually do most of them as well. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:44 | |
He actually can do just about everything. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
Are you enjoying this? | 0:00:49 | 0:00:50 | |
I can think of few people in TV | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
who have used their fame more brilliantly. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
I mean, in his case, for the diversity issue | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
and for Comic Relief. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
Welcome to Comic Relief! | 0:01:04 | 0:01:05 | |
The BAFTA Special Award goes to a man I am proud to call a friend. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
Please make some noise for Sir Lenny Henry. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
I was born in Dudley in the West Midlands in 1958. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:51 | |
My parents had come over previously | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
to find work and to start a new life. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
My mum came over first. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
Because my Uncle Clifton said you can earn money here, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
up to 30 shillings a week. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
There was a sense of disconnect because my dad was still in Jamaica. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:09 | |
She fell in love with somebody while she was here. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
And I'm the result of that. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:13 | |
So when my dad came over from Jamaica, | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
negotiations had to be negotiated. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
Otherwise, things weren't going to work. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
So... | 0:02:27 | 0:02:28 | |
What was amazing was my father raised me as his child. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
But I always felt weird. I always felt a bit different. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
And I always, kind of, felt odd. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
I went to the Bluecoat Secondary Modern, | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
which is just up the road from our house. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
Parents nowadays do research and look at league tables | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
and talk to people at Ofsted, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
and personally go around all the schools in the area | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
to look at what school might be suitable for their children. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
My mum looked out the window, and said, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
"There's a school up there, that's where you're going. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
"It's got a fence around it so you can't get out." | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
There were, like, over 30 children in most of the classes. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
It was quite a diverse school. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
There was a lot of racism flying around. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
It was quite tough and working-class. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
So I was a bit lost, and didn't really know | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
where I fit in for quite a long time, and... | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
Mr Brooks was the one, though, who recognised that I was...funny. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:28 | |
I was also the, kind of, comedy jukebox. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
I was the one that entertained everybody else. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
I killed my friends with jokes. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:34 | |
They thought I was hilarious. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
Anything I did, I was the guy. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
When I first started, I did Top Cat. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
Which is sort of... | 0:03:41 | 0:03:42 | |
"OK, man, let's move, move, move!" | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
There was Top Cat. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:45 | |
"OK, Top Cat. OK, TC." | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
People would poke me and I'd just come out with a voice. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
So that was my teens, really. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
That's how I got to talk to girls. I had no conversation. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
But could do Frank Spencer at the drop of a hat! | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
We're going to hear the patter | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
of tiny little feet. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:01 | |
Oh, no, no, no, no, Betty. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
I'm not having another cat in this house. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
AS FRANK: "Hello, would you like me to buy you a drink? | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
"I've got no money or anything, but I'll buy you a pony." | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
You know, ridiculous. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
I got up at the Queen Mary Ballroom when I was 15. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
I wasn't supposed to be in there, but we all snuck in. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
It was just full of 14-year-olds. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
I don't know what the management thought they were doing. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
You'd probably get closed down now, wouldn't you? | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
But there were all these kids in there pretending to be over 18! | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
All trying to do their science homework | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
before Curtis Mayfield came on, you know. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
There was a DJ there called Oscar Michael, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
and he did a talent competition every week. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
This one week, Greg and Max said, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
"Why don't you get up and do that stuff that you do? It's funny." | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
And I was always a bit scared | 0:04:53 | 0:04:54 | |
and worried about doing it for the general public. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
I just thought it was for us, you know? | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
And they said, "Oh, get up and do Elvis." | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
And Elvis was one thing I could do. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
# Warden threw a party in the county jail... # | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
And I knew all the words. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
# The warden threw a party in the county jail... # | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
So I got up and I did Jailhouse Rock. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
And, oh, my God... | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
..for the first time, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
I saw over 100 people all looking this way, at me, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
with a spotlight on me, with a mic in my hand, sort of, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
pretending to be Elvis - "Thank you." | 0:05:28 | 0:05:29 | |
# ..dancing to the Jailhouse Rock... # | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
And it was somehow entertaining. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
And I just thought, "I'll have some of this! This is great!" | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
MUSIC: You Sexy Thing by Hot Chocolate | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
Enjoying yourselves, are you? | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
I'll soon change that. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:53 | |
A man walked into a bar. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:54 | |
Oops, was an iron bar! | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
# I believe in miracles | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
# Where you from | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
# You sexy thing? # | 0:06:02 | 0:06:03 | |
I went to this club in Birmingham to do an audition. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
Bunked off school. My parents didn't know where I was. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
This was the day where I thought, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:09 | |
"Oh, if this is show business, I'm in!" | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
I just thought, "This is fantastic! What a great world! | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
"You get to wear sparkly costumes, and you get to have props, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
"and you get to sing songs and do jokes. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
"This is a great world. I want to be in this world." | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
And so when they called my name, and it was about six o'clock, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
I'd had all day to be scared. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
And I don't know what was happening. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
I think the gods just went like this... | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
And it just went... And I walked on stage, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
and I put my Tommy Cooper hat on, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:36 | |
and I walked up to the mic and said... | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
AS TOMMY COOPER: "You may have seen some of these impressions before, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
"ladies and gentlemen, but not in colour." | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
And the whole audience did this thing | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
where it wasn't just a laugh, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
it was, kind of, a recognition of something. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
And it was... | 0:06:51 | 0:06:52 | |
..extraordinary. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
Extraordinary moment where the stars aligned and suddenly, I had them. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:02 | |
I had them there. And that was it. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
I went on television in the January of 1975. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
My life changed for ever. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
# You're a star, you're a star | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
# A lame suit and a new guitar | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
# And I know that you'll go far Cos you're a star... # | 0:07:16 | 0:07:22 | |
OK, Paul. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:23 | |
He's a really new exciting face to television. Just 16 years old. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
Enough from me - let him express himself in three minutes, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
as we bring on Mr Lenny Henry. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:07:34 | 0:07:35 | |
THEME MUSIC TO SOME MOTHERS DO 'AVE 'EM | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
Everybody did Frank Spencer. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:39 | |
And this figure with a mac and a beret, we were going, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
"Oh, no, it's going to be another Frank Spencer." | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
And this very young, bony, black face turned around going, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
"Mm, Betty." And we went, "This is extraordinary!" | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
We saw the Queen on Christmas Day, didn't we, my darling? | 0:07:49 | 0:07:54 | |
That's my baby, Jessica, that is. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
Oh! There's a lot of people out there. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
We were in a transition | 0:08:07 | 0:08:08 | |
from never seeing a black face on television | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
to beginning to see people trying to break through. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
And you had to acknowledge the fact, in a way, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
which Lenny was very smart at doing, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
that this was a surprise for the audience. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
So, it's a comment about the period, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
and the fact that he had to do that to get across to the audience | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
rather than, "He shouldn't have been doing that material," you know. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
AS CLIFF RICHARD: # Got myself a cryin', talkin' | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
# Sleepin', walkin' | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
# Living doll... # | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
What was great about the New Faces thing was that, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
as a Caribbean family growing up in the UK, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
there weren't any representations of us on TV. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
So for us, it was like, you definitely watched TV | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
when he was on - the whole house was watching it. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
I'm Lenny Henry, and I'm on the New Faces winners show | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
a week on Saturday. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
It's time you old faces moved over | 0:08:58 | 0:08:59 | |
a bit and let us new ones get in. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
Old faces? | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
And I knew I was famous cos I was in Leicester | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
a few weeks afterwards. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
And the bus driver stopped the traffic in the middle of the... | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
"Lenny Henry! I saw you on television! | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
"You were brilliant on New Faces! | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
"Thank you, my son! Keep going!" | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
This guy stopped traffic, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:23 | |
left his bus in the middle of the street, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
got out, you know, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:26 | |
all the passengers like this, going... | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
"I'd really like to get to my destination. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
"But the Jamaican bus driver seems to be talking to a celebrity." | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
# We wish you a merry Christmas | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
# We wish you a merry Christmas... # | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
I got signed up to do The Black And White Minstrel Show, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
famously because I was at the Portman Hotel with Robert Luff, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
who eventually became my manager, who was the entrepreneur | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
who owned the rights to The Black And White Minstrel Show | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
and they were having a philosophical conversation, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
the grown-ups, about what kind of show should Lenny do. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
And what I didn't know at the time, and I know this now, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
is that the Race Relations Board had been giving Robert Luff stick | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
about The Black And White Minstrel Show. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
No matter how beautiful the costumes were, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
no matter how great the songs were, it was based on a racist premise | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
and you don't employ any black people. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
It's wrong. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:15 | |
I didn't know any of that. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
I just knew it was this old bloke who was talking about show business, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
and I was slightly drifting off, and looking at the sweet trolley. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
And then, 45 minutes later, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
I'd signed away my whole career | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
to be in The Black And White Minstrel Show | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
for the next five years. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:33 | |
# We're dreaming of a white Christmas... # | 0:10:33 | 0:10:44 | |
You've got no chance! | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
It's very controversial, isn't it? | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
Because the whole business of, you know, | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
people blacking up or whatever. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
But I mean, Lenny would have thought very carefully | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
about what he wanted to do. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
I could have said, "No, I'm not going to do it." | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
But there was a childlike element in me that just thought, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
"If I don't do what I'm told, I'll get in trouble, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
"and they'll take show business away!" | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
So... | 0:11:11 | 0:11:12 | |
"They'll take all of show business away if I say no to this!" | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
So basically, I said yes, cos I was scared. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
MUSIC: London Calling by The Clash | 0:11:18 | 0:11:19 | |
Then Michael Grade, in 1976, must have seen me, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
because he asked me to come to London, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:24 | |
to London Weekend Television studios. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
I'd seen him on New Faces, but more importantly, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
I'd seen him on stage when, believe it or not, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
he was in The Black And White Minstrel Show's stage show. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
He sat me down | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
and he said, "Watch this." | 0:11:42 | 0:11:43 | |
And for half an hour, we watched this show called Good Times. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
# Good times | 0:11:46 | 0:11:47 | |
-# Any time you meet a payment -Good times | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
-# Any time you meet a friend -Good times... # | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
It was extremely funny. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
It wasn't about race. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:57 | |
It was about an ordinary family, having the same problems | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
that a white, working-class, blue-collar family would be having. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
Hey, Junior, what you doing home so early? | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
-It ain't but eight o'clock. -It was a bad scene, man. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
I knocked on the girl's door. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
Her father answered the door, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
smelled the mouthwash on my breath... | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
..saw the gleam in my eye... | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
..and slammed the door right in my face. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
And Michael Grade said, "Would you like to play the eldest son | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
"in a British version of this?" | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
And so I saw this fantastic episode of Good Times | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
and went, "Yeah." | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
Hello, gorgeous people. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
Pretty sister. Lovely mother. Handsome father. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
Get your wallet out, Samuel. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:51 | |
That's a real, "Could you lend me a couple of quid?" greeting | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
if ever I heard one! | 0:12:55 | 0:12:56 | |
I know. Forget it, sonny. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
My wallet is so empty, boy, it would make a mugger cry. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
Dad, Mum, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
how could you even think I had anything on my mind | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
other than pure niceness? | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
And we got a fantastic cast. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:08 | |
Everybody said we wouldn't be able to cast it. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
Carmen Munroe and Norman Beaton, who became a big star in Desmond's. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
Norman Beaton was brilliant. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
And Norman Beaton taught me as much about acting as anybody. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
And Lenny was wonderful in it. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
I mean, if he'd said no, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:23 | |
the show would never have happened cos I couldn't imagine | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
how else we would have cast the lead character. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
Hello! | 0:13:28 | 0:13:29 | |
This is the Casanova of the Caribbean. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
Otherwise known as Dial-a-Thrill. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
Speak first, it's your tuppence that... | 0:13:36 | 0:13:37 | |
What? Who? | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
McDonald who? Oh, at the chip shop. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
We could have been any family, really. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:44 | |
But the fact we were a black family | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
made us different to everything else. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:47 | |
So for two years, it did very well. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
I was in a, kind of, a weird place as a performer, | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
doing the clubs and panto, and stuff, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
and then Chris Tarrant came to see me in Great Yarmouth, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
at the behest of Frank Carson. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:06 | |
AS CARSON: "You should go and see Lenny. He's funny." | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
There's a young black guy. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
That black guy who did New Faces, Lenny Henry. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
I went, "Oh, where is he?" He said, "He's down in Yarmouth." | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
I went to see him. The only thing I remember, really, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
apart from him being just a big amiable guy, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
was that his flies burst onstage. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
I was improvising and messing around, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:22 | |
cos I didn't have enough material, really. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
But I was messing around a lot. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
And Tarrant was in that night. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
I remember in the dressing room afterwards, we were chatting, | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
and he said, "That's not supposed to happen." | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
I said, "I thought that was part of the act. It's very clever." | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
He said, "No, that's the first time it's happened. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
"Hope it never happens again!" | 0:14:37 | 0:14:38 | |
And afterwards he said, "I don't know what you're doing in this show, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
"but that was pretty funny - do you want to be in Tiswas?" | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
# Saturday, Saturday | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
# Saturday is Tiswas day... # | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
What I thought he wanted from me was, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
AS FRANK SPENCER: "Hello, Betty!" AS COOPER: "Thank you very much." | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
I thought he wanted me to do my act every week. But he didn't. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
Thank you very much. I was driving past a farmhouse the other day, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
and I saw the farm on the doorstep. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
I said, "Hey! Six of your hens have just stopped laying." | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
He said, "How do you know? | 0:15:09 | 0:15:10 | |
I said, "I've just run them over!" | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
At the end of the very first series of Tiswas, we almost got rid of him. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
We loved him - as a guy, he was brilliant, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
brilliant fun, and we all looked after him as one of our gang. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
But he then came up with this... | 0:15:25 | 0:15:26 | |
He said, "I think I'd like to do David Bellamy", | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
and we're going, "But, you know, David Bellamy's sort of big, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
"and old and has got a beard. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:33 | |
"You're young and black look nothing like him." | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
He said, "No, but I could do the voice and whatever." | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
And that kind of changed everything. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
AS BELLAMY: Well, it's really wonderful to be back here | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
-on Compost Corner.. -Compost Corner! | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
..with my wonderful friend, pig manure. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
Now, what you need to do... | 0:15:46 | 0:15:47 | |
You found a thing to talk about every week | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
and you found a way to get jokes in. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
And that meant you weren't doing your act all the time. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
And that, kind of, saved my life. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
Because it was live and it was very much made up, you know, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
on the back of a beer mat, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
he thrived on it. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
And he enjoyed... He was able to do anything. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
It meant I could improvise. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
It meant I could mess around. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
And I learned how to be on live telly, | 0:16:18 | 0:16:19 | |
because I was watching Tarrant, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
who was a master of being relaxed on television. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
# Saturday is Tiswas day... # | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
I suddenly had grown into this quite experienced performer. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:33 | |
It was nice to be back. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:36 | |
I think I've just changed my outlook on the whole situation. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
And there was a record called... | 0:16:40 | 0:16:41 | |
# OK Fred... | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
# Now I'm a yaga yaga... # | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
# OK Fred | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
# Now you're a yaga yaga... # | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
And I thought, "Well, I should do a Rastafarian who says 'OK...'" | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
That was, like, I mean, really basic. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
Comedy 101. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
# I do not want you to say OK | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
# O-O-O-K... # | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
'My dad used to take bread and condensed milk sandwiches to work.' | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
I thought, "This guy should eat bread and condensed milk sandwiches." | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
The good thing about bread and condensed milk sandwiches | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
is you can really get into the dunking. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
Oh, that's revolting! | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
It's really great. In fact, I'm dunking for Jamaica! | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
We did a thing called This Is Your Life, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:23 | |
where I was Eamonn Andrews with a silly wig on, and... | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
Lenny Henry, you thought you were here | 0:17:27 | 0:17:28 | |
to do an unconvincing impression of a well-known newscaster | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
and get a bucket of water thrown over your head. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
In fact, Lenny Henry, comedian catastrophic, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
This Is Your Life. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
"THIS IS YOUR LIFE THEME" PLAYS | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
And one week, it was my joke This Is Your Life, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
and then my mum walked on! | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
CHEERING | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
My mum is usually wrestling a whole sheep to the ground, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
and cooking mutton soup on a Saturday. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
Why is she here, in a TV studio, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
where there are people in the cage being covered in water | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
every five minutes? | 0:18:05 | 0:18:06 | |
Why is my mum here? | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
Why aren't you at bingo with Bernie? | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
He was terribly protective about his mum, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
who was a wonderful woman, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
who made me the best Christmas cake of my life, every Christmas. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
95% rum, the first Christmas, 96 the second. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
It was the most wonderful cake. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:26 | |
I just had this silly idea that I didn't think would happen. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:33 | |
And I just said, quietly to my director, I said, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
"Wouldn't it be good if we could get the real Trevor McDonald on, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
"the real Trevor McDoughnut? | 0:18:38 | 0:18:39 | |
Chris Tarrant, I think, is the person who called me. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
And I thought it was great fun. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
THEME MUSIC TO "THE PROFESSIONALS" | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
There had to be great subterfuge | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
and I remember Chris Tarrant took me around the side of the building | 0:18:49 | 0:18:54 | |
and went in through a side entrance under a blanket. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
Now it might surprise you to hear me say | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
that that's the first time I'd ever been made to enter a building | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
under such a disguise. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
Walked him in. Took the blanket off his head. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
And I remember vividly putting him right beside Lenny, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
who was doing his Trevor McDoughnut impression, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
and just sort of tapped him on the shoulder. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
In Oxford Street today, a suicidal Japanese fighter pilot... | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
-Len... -Pardon? | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
Argh...! | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
He was absolutely shocked. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
Well, good morning, Daddy. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
There he was, next to me. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
And it was like this homage. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
I suddenly... It was like... | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
You know, he was my hero. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
-You listen carefully now. -Can I throw some water? | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
No. No water. No water. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
It would have been rather churlish not to, I felt, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
and unstylish and uncool. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
So I decided to allow myself to be doused with water | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
by Lenny Henry and his friends. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:02 | |
A doctor has tied a rope around his ankles and says he's certain | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
that the man will pull through. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
It was the beginning of a lifelong friendship. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
# Stand by me... # | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
I was a fan, and he was my fan. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
And suddenly, we were each other's fan. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
I was responsible for helping him to buy his first car. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
It made my day. It made my year. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
People still talk it to this day. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
# Yeah, it's such a thrill | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
# Yeah, he's your little Bill | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
# Please tell me who's the dad | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
# It's you, Ron, Ron, Ron | 0:20:40 | 0:20:41 | |
# No, you, John, John... # | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
Paul Jackson had seen me. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
He was the producer of Three Of A Kind, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:46 | |
and he found me and David Copperfield from clubland | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
and Tracey Ullman from a Les Blair play, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
and he put the three of us together. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
# I think I know the one | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
# It's you Ron, Ron | 0:20:57 | 0:20:58 | |
# It's you Ron, Ron... # | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
Paul Jackson was brilliant, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:01 | |
cos he allowed us to be the arbiters of our own show. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:06 | |
We got to choose. It was our show. We chose the characters. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
We chose the sketches. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:10 | |
And I said, "Well, I want to do jokes that aren't about | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
"the fact that I'm black. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
"I want to do jokes that support who I am, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
"where I can espouse my community and my culture | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
"without having to apologise for it all the time." | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
All the writers went, "Yeah, OK, we've got you, Len." | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
The idea of Three Of A Kind was we weren't going to do | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
anything that was specifically ethnically defined, in a way. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
So if we wanted a policeman, | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
it didn't matter if it was Lenny, or if it was Tracey, or whatever. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
And the fact that Lenny was a policeman in some of the sketches, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
it wasn't that he was a black policeman. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:43 | |
He was a policeman. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
-Any clues? -Well, we found the body here, ma'am. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
He had a rope around his neck, a gun by his side, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
and he was holding a knife. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:50 | |
So what do you think? | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
I think he were poisoned. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:53 | |
For the characters, I was encouraged by Tracey Ullman, who just said, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
"You know, base it on members of your family, base it on anybody." | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
And because she'd done a kind of Mike Leigh, Les Blair, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
improv-type acting stuff, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
watching her peel the layers of a character, like an onion, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
and really getting into it, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
it made me want to do that too. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
Christ, Chrissy, when are you going to get a job? | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
I don't know, Angie, I don't know. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
We've had nothing to eat for months. All we had to eat is black stuff. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
We've had boiled black stuff, grilled black stuff, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
black stuff pudding. black stuff in their jackets... | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
The kids are sick of it. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:35 | |
They've got black stuff coming out of their ears. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
What kids? | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
What do you mean, what kids? | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
We've got two kids. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
-Since when? -Since about 12 years ago. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
Well, that's bloody great, that is. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:48 | |
On top of everything else, I've got two kids. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
Nobody tells me anything! | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
He would have the physicality of the character, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
and he'd know how the character walked, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
how the characters spoke. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
And then I'd think, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
"He's doing that bit, so let's try and find the style." | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
My name is Dermot Wilkins, and I'm from Brixton. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
Hub of the universe. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
Brixton. That well-known South London resort. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
Well, the last resort, anyway! | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
HE CACKLES | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
Delbert came from a guy called Kev, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
who was a dancer I spent some time with. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
I hung out with him one day and Kev had this, kind of, weird, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:28 | |
kind of, very, sort of, nice thing going on with his voice, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:35 | |
quite camp, but, kind of, absolutely in your face | 0:23:35 | 0:23:40 | |
about everything. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:41 | |
Very vehement about the way he talked about things. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
He'd say, "You know what I mean?" at the end of everything. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
"You know what they mean? You get me? you understand?" | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
You're a well crucial audience, you know what I mean? | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
HE CACKLES | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
And we did Fred Dredd. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:55 | |
Good evening. When this government came into power, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
we promised to defeat inflation. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
# Terrible and wicked inflation | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
# Caused by the last administration | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
# An economic dour situation | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
# All around us fists are waving in the air | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
# But what do we care? # | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
He was getting political attitudes | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
that he was able to express in a comic setting, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
and with the, kind of, buffer of a comic character. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
It was kind of alternative-lite, if you like. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
So it had all the appearance of alternative comedy, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
but with none of the calories. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
# You know it causes me distress when I read in the press | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
# The stories of nuclear destruction | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
# How it would mean a population reduction | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
# And lower my chance of seduction | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
# But I don't want a bomb on my house... # | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
It's funny. He made fun of his culture, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
but he did it in a way that was endearing. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
It brought a lot of attention to Caribbean culture, you know, | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
in a really positive way, even though he was taking the mick, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
and that's clever. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
# I been hanging around for eternity | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
# Waiting for you to turn on to me | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
# But now you're here there's no turning back | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
# Prepare yourself for a laugh attack... # | 0:25:09 | 0:25:10 | |
When I got my own show, I had no idea | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
what I was going to do on the show. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:13 | |
I just, sort of, hoped it would be a bit like Three Of A Kind, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
but just with me. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:17 | |
You're into Dermot Wilkins | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
on the Brixton Broadcasting Corporation, the BBC. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
-Are you feeling totally spondicious? CROWD: -Yes! | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
Well, I'm not, because my one and only two-litre Ford Wicked | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
has been stolen. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:29 | |
Yeah, that's right, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
Vorsprung Durch Nicked! | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
And I migrated some of my characters from Three Of A Kind, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
but I also was allowed to do different stuff. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
My name is Deakus. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
I come from, um... | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
..Jamaica. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
Deakus - "Good evening!" - | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
was based on a man called Earl. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
We called him Early, and he was the bread man. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
He delivered bread and Jamaican Bun, he had a van, | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
and every time he came in, he'd go "Hello, hello, hello." | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
When I first come here, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:06 | |
people told me the only way to get a job in Hengland, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
was with the old school tie. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
So I wore my old school tie for three years. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
Not a damn thing happened! | 0:26:14 | 0:26:15 | |
What made it more funny for us | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
is that you knew someone in your family who was like that. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
That was the thing. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:21 | |
So watching him was just like watching your uncle, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
or someone who'd come round on a Sunday for dinner. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
And you'd all, you know... He was that guy. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
He'd draw on everything. He's like a magpie, really. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
If he sees any influences, if he sees anything he likes, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
he'll internalise it and it'll come out somewhere, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
in a sketch, or when we're writing. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
My name is Theophilus P Wildebeeste. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
They call me that because I'm a wild beast. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
I shed hair all over your carpet. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
And tonight, I'm going to sing a song for all the ladies out there. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
If you look at the first Teddy Pendergass album cover, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
it's pretty much what Theo ended up looking like. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
# As I lay here next to you... # | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
But the music and the talking, that was all about Barry White. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:06 | |
I've heard people say that... | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
..too much of anything is not good for you, baby... | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
"My name is Theophilus P Wildebeeste." | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
It just, kind of, was my idea of what a soul singer talked like. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
"Take your panties off." You know, it was all of that. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
He was... Oh, man, he was just hilarious. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
I was creasing up with laughter. I couldn't even cope. He was funny. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
# I want you here with me, babe | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
# I want to look into your little | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
# Greeny, bluey, pinky eyes... # | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
He came along with the look, with the voice, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
with the mannerisms and with the general attitude. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
It was all there. So, for me, it was a question of, well, | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
let's just carve this into some comic material, then. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
# Sit down and I'll show you | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
# Just what to do | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
# I'll show you how much I care | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
# Tell her about the rabbit | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
I will... | 0:27:59 | 0:28:00 | |
# I used to have a rabbit | 0:28:00 | 0:28:01 | |
# But he ran away | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
# So you'll have to run your fingers through my hair... # | 0:28:03 | 0:28:08 | |
I did Michael Jackson's Thriller | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
and that was another game-changer. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:11 | |
Because who knew I could do that? | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
I had no idea I could do that. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
# I'm getting thinner | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
# Thinner now | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
# They say I'm anorexic | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
# And that would explain why I can't eat my | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
# Dinner... # | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
The other thing is his physicality - | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
for a big man, he's incredibly pliable | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
and he's a great dancer. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
# I'm getting shriller | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
# Shriller now | 0:28:35 | 0:28:36 | |
# These guys are really frightening | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
# And they look as if they're fans | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
# Of Aston Villa | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
# They don't really like me | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
# I wish my mum was here Don't want to grow up | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
# Grow up... # | 0:28:47 | 0:28:48 | |
In those parodies, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
he gets the movement, he copies what they do. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
That, I can't do it, but that Michael Jackson, dum-dum... | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
..and the hand on the crotch thing. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
# Need a girl | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
# It ain't no use... # | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
And he just perfects that. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
And all you need is a few of those signposts in a song, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
for an audience to go, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:14 | |
"God, it really does look like Michael Jackson." | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
# Don't get on with humans | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
# Best friend's a chimpanzee | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
# Not just a little crazy | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
# I'm completely off my tree | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
# I'm mad, I'm mad | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
# Three bricks short of a load... # | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
We then just, kind of, mined that scene with Lenny, you know. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
All the great black entertainers, singers, you know, | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
Prince, Tina Turner. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
We thought, "Right, we'll just go for it. We'll just do it." | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
# When I was a little girl | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
# I had a rag doll... # | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
We did Beyonce years later. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
I mean, even years later, we did Beyonce. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
And he looked ridiculous. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
# Here I am, coming out of nowhere | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
# A girl with big ass, boobs and hair | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
# Not many people knew who I was before | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
# How I got rich, baby I'm not really sure | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
# The press all seem to gang up on me | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
# All day I'm hounded by the paparazzi | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
# Trying to get shots of me sitting on the can | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
# There's even rumours that I might be a man... # | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
What was great was I was allowed to belong, | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
I was welcomed as part of a gang, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
which was, basically, primetime BBC One, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
and I was given the resources to do it. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
How many times, lad. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:28 | |
You'll never earn brass down t'pit. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
It's plays, point work and pas de deux | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
that pay bills and put food on't table. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
Now, get on with it. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
But coal mining's the only thing that's ever made me feel... | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
really alive. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
Get home and get in front of that mirror. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:42 | |
I want pirouettes until tea-time. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
Go on! | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
All these great collaborators, Robbie Coltrane, Rik Mayall... | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
-Everybody... -Action! | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
..Nigel Planer... | 0:30:54 | 0:30:55 | |
We can't go to Paris looking like this. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
French and Saunders. All these amazing performers. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
HE YELLS | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
I have to admit, I'm a bit upset now. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
And it was amazing. I loved it. I loved doing it. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
MUSIC: Do They Know It's Christmas by Band Aid | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
A percentage of all the money | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
from the calls that we receive today | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
will be donated by British Telecom to a new charity | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
called Comic Relief. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
First of all, it was this initiative that began in the Sudan, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
Helen Fielding did a live broadcast on The Late, Late Breakfast Show. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
The sites opened up about a year ago | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
and they're full of refugees from Ethiopia. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
It's full of happy children, life is starting up again. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
They're well fed. It's organised. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
And the point is that the money does work. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
If you send money, it achieves results. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
It was in response to Live Aid | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
and Michael Buerk's brilliant film footage | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
of what was going on out there with the refugees, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
and with the famine and stuff. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
Dawn, and as the sun breaks through the piercing chill overnight | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
on the plain outside Korem, | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
it lights up a biblical famine. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
Now, in the 20th century. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
We all wanted to do something. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
Everybody wanted to help, but nobody knew how. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
I got back from a trip to Ethiopia. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
I got in touch with anyone I knew in the business and said, | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
"Let's do a show like The Secret Policeman's Ball." | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
Richard contacted us and said, "I'm doing this show, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
"a night of comic relief, at the Shaftesbury's Theatre, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
"come and hang out." | 0:32:36 | 0:32:37 | |
So I said, "I'll do stand-up, and I'm going to do Theo." | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
"OK, cool." | 0:32:40 | 0:32:41 | |
My name is Lenny Henry, and as you can see, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
I've had a tragic disaster with my hair. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
So let's do all the jokes now before it gets boring. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
Yes, I do look like a black aircraft carrier. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
Yes, I do look like Grace Jones. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
Theophilus P Wildebeeste sketch with someone who turned out to be Hugh Laurie's wife. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
Jo, tonight is your night, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
I'm going to let you have my body. All of it. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
Even the long, wobbly, floppy dangly bits. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
Jo was the best person to get on stage to do Theo | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
at that particular moment in time. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:18 | |
And she was as funny as I was. She was hilarious. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
It was very, very funny. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
You see, Jo, these nipples are yours tonight... | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
..to do with as you will, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:28 | |
because I feel so sexy tonight. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
'And literally the night that show was over' | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
Lenny and me were sitting round and he said, | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
"Why do we always do stuff on stage when we're really TV people?" | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
"I think it should be a night on the telly." | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
And so he was absolutely crucial. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
In that first year, Lenny and I together, as it were, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
wrote 150 letters. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:50 | |
Letters used to exist then. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
And Richard was very shy and just said, you know, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
"I'll write the letters, and you sign them." | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
So that's what we did. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:58 | |
And I'd say to Lenny, | 0:33:58 | 0:33:59 | |
"When was the last time you bumped into Jimmy Tarbuck," | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
and then we write, "Oh, dear Jim... So and so and so..." | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
It was his enthusiasm which was absolutely key. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
So now on BBC One, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:09 | |
here we go with eight hours of entertainment | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
as we don our red noses | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
and hand over to Comic Relief. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
And welcome to a night of Comic Relief. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
Yes, my name is Griff Rhys Jones. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:22 | |
And my name is Mel Smith. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
And then he presented the show with Jonathan and Griff, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
seven hours of almost disastrous TV. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
Remember, whenever you laugh, ring. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
And if you're thinking of laughing, then switch off... | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
What? | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
Whenever you laugh, ring. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:45 | |
And whenever you ring, laugh. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
And wherever you're thinking about ringing, then laugh. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
What do you think, Griff? | 0:34:50 | 0:34:51 | |
Forget me. I'm just doing what I'm told, all right? | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
It was incredibly chaotic. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
Entirely unrehearsed. | 0:34:58 | 0:34:59 | |
We didn't know what quite they were going to say. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
We were writing their script during the pre-recorded bits. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
We're doing the plates now. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
-Are we doing the plates now? -We are, yeah. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
And as we'd be talking, | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
things would come up on the autocue | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
which we had never seen before. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
I believe we're coming live in here... | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
-Get on with it! -Sorry! | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
I didn't know how to produce a TV show. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
No-one had done a seven-hour one before. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
But I think some of the optimism, enthusiasm and chaos | 0:35:27 | 0:35:31 | |
actually were quite...appealing. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
And I...I kind of miss that now. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
We're very slick now. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
He was one of the greatest-ever comedian presenters. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
There are a lot of lively presenters, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
and there are lots of quite sorted comedians. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
Lenny was actually able to be live, chaotic, and seriously, | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
a great comedian at the same time. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
Does my bum look big in this? | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
-No, not at all. -Ooh! | 0:36:04 | 0:36:05 | |
There was a fantastic moment in that first Comic Relief. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
We were shooting links about why people should give money. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
And we filmed with this young girl who we'd seen fetching water | 0:36:13 | 0:36:19 | |
from a well that was ten miles away. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
You first. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:22 | |
And now a word from our sponsor. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
And I just started to giggle, because I'd got my lines wrong. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
And this girl started to laugh. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
And they used that clip a lot. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
Well, there you are. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:45 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:36:47 | 0:36:48 | |
It was another image of Africa. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
It was a way of saying, "Oh, we can equate this with Africa. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
"We don't have to equate the emaciated child all the time." | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
What it comes down to is this. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
To immunise Mohammed against the six preventable diseases costs just 50p. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
50p. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:06 | |
One of the things he's also done is spoken from his heart after films | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
and put the script aside and said, you know, just as human to human, | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
"Surely there's something, you know, you want to do now?" | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
What we do know is this - | 0:37:17 | 0:37:18 | |
if this was happening to a neighbour of yours, you'd bust a gut to help. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
If you knew somebody, you know, on your doorstep, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
who'd walked 11 days cos they were starving | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
and they needed a quid for food, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
you'd say, "Have a bloody quid," you know? | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
"Actually, here, have five." | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
The point is, forget geography. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
These ARE your neighbours. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
This IS your doorstep. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
Please help. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
Lenny was always sincere and honest in his reactions. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:46 | |
Kibera was a properly steep learning curve for me. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
Lenny will be sharing his new home with a family of five orphans. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
I spent one night in a horrible room | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
that was airless, that was next to three toilets | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
with an open sewer running down the middle. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
It was really tough. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
And I don't really know how we survived it. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
It literally changed my life. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:16 | |
It changed my... I cried on telly. I've never cried on telly before. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
HE SOBS | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
Oh, Jesus Christ! | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
He never feels he's doing enough | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
and he's always trying to go at it with truth. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
So the... In the slums thing, | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
he just decided he would really try and experience life for real. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
And the rawness of his emotions there, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
and the sense that he still wasn't prepared for it... | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
He wasn't prepared for the conditions the kids were in. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
He wasn't prepared to leave | 0:38:48 | 0:38:49 | |
this kid, Bernard, and his family all alone. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
I wanted those kids out of that house now. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
I was prepared to stop the documentary | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
and do something about it. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:57 | |
It was the first time that's ever happened. | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
Usually I'd have been, "Come on, we've got to keep filming," | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
but I just thought, "This isn't right. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
"We've got to do something." And so we did something. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
So you're talking about buying a house, a small house. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
-Yes. -That they could live in. That's £1,200. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
I can do that. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:13 | |
-This is your new home. -This is our new home? Wow! | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
This is your home now. This is where you're going to sleep. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
For me, it's a change in my life. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
That's good. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:24 | |
We couldn't have done Comic Relief initially without Lenny, | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
and he's been responsible for many of the best serious moments | 0:39:27 | 0:39:33 | |
in our long enterprise. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
When somebody from our industry makes a connection like that, | 0:39:35 | 0:39:40 | |
it's important to keep it going, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
and it's not just a thing for five minutes | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
while you're on the telly - | 0:39:45 | 0:39:46 | |
it's something that'll stick with you for your whole life. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
BOTH: Let the noses blow! | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
With Len, it's a sort of continuum. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
I've been here for 27 years. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
From the very first moment of putting a pie in someone's face, | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
to the extraordinary moment of him saying "We've reached a billion". | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
The total raised by Comic Relief and Sport Relief | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
since we first started is... | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
over £1 billion! | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
We announced £1 billion on this stage. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
And that was... | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
Still, unbelievable, really. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
Since 1988, over £1 billion has been raised. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
It's an extraordinary achievement. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
It's a billion | 0:40:31 | 0:40:32 | |
and that sort of money can really make a difference | 0:40:32 | 0:40:37 | |
to real people, to people. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
This was a brilliant thing that the public have done | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
and I was just honoured and privileged to be a part of it. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
# What I did for love... # | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
# Hollywood | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
# Hollywood swinging... # | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
Disney had this film that Eddie Murphy had sort of passed on | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
and they figured, "Who can we get that's cheaper than Eddie Murphy? | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
"Get that English guy who does all the voices." | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
And they got me to do it. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:18 | |
And suddenly I'm in America, sort of, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
desperately trying to lose weight | 0:41:22 | 0:41:23 | |
and having this script that wasn't very good but thinking, | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
"I'm in a film! I'm in a film in America! Arrrrrgh!" | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
# Hollywood | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
# Hollywood swinging... # | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
And how weird is this - I'm playing a film | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
where I'm a white guy for most of the film. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
So it's like shades of the Minstrels again! | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
I've gone from people blacking up to me whiting up! | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
What the hell is that, God? | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
Thanks a lot! | 0:41:46 | 0:41:47 | |
All right? You can open your eyes now. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
Keep an open mind... | 0:41:52 | 0:41:53 | |
HE SCREAMS | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
You made me into a white guy? I can't believe this. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
What's the matter with you? I wanted to look like Prince. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
You made me look like Wayne Newton. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
For a brief five seconds, | 0:42:02 | 0:42:04 | |
my name is above the title in a Touchstone movie. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
And then, it was in the Indian shop, in the bargain bin, | 0:42:08 | 0:42:12 | |
before the plane touched down... | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
LAUGHING: ..when I got back. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:16 | |
I was really cross. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
But luckily, I'd started to think about Chef while I was in LA, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:25 | |
cos I was so frustrated at the lack of control over there. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
And my family were sending me magazines from, you know, | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
the Observer Magazine, Times Magazine | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
and I was reading about all these superstar chefs, | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
behaving outrageously. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
I thought, "There's something in this", | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
and I formed a production company called Crucial Films. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
-Well, I think... -And we started to develop Chef, | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
and many other things. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
Do you any idea of how many highly skilled man hours, | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
over a three-day period, have gone into producing this dish | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
which has brought to your table at the zenith of its powers, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
its taste, flavour, textures, | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
temperature at the peak of perfection, | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
and without tasting it, you call for salt? | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
Your salt, sir. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:06 | |
I hate you with a passion you can only dream of. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
And it was difficult. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
It was me, and I was inexperienced, | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
so it did feel a bit like me yelling at people a lot. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
But there was a sweet spot there where I thought, | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
"This is...this is great." I loved it. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:21 | |
OK, lads, over and under. You know what to do. Go! | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
Come on! Come on! | 0:43:33 | 0:43:35 | |
'Alive And Kicking came about | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 | |
'because I was reading the newspapers' | 0:43:37 | 0:43:39 | |
and there was this article about a football team in Glasgow, | 0:43:39 | 0:43:42 | |
and they were all recovering junkies or alcoholics or something. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:47 | |
It was an initiative run by a man called Davie Bryce, | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
who'd been a convict, and an addict, and he'd come out of jail, | 0:43:51 | 0:43:56 | |
and he wanted to get better, and recover, | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
and so he'd started this football team | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
where if you were straight...you could play. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:08 | |
I spent five years trying to keep one drug addict out of this place, | 0:44:08 | 0:44:11 | |
now you send me a whole bloody teamful! | 0:44:11 | 0:44:13 | |
Think of it as a challenge. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:14 | |
And so I played the gangster guy, and Robbie Coltrane played Liam, | 0:44:15 | 0:44:19 | |
the guy who ran the rehab centre. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
And Robbie and I were both known for comedy, | 0:44:22 | 0:44:24 | |
and suddenly, there we were, | 0:44:24 | 0:44:25 | |
on the front of the Radio Times | 0:44:25 | 0:44:27 | |
in this very serious drama. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
Are you enjoying this? | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
They pay you to help people like me, and so far, you've done bugger all! | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
I think were finally seeing some channelled aggression, Stevie. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
It was fantastic, directed by a man called Robert Young, | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
who was a very good director, he directed GBH. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
He'd say things like, "I'm not quite believing this, Len. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:48 | |
"It's a bit jokey. Try and find a way to make this more realistic." | 0:44:48 | 0:44:51 | |
And he didn't say that to Robbie, because Robbie would've chinned him. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:54 | |
Oi! You do not walk away from me, woman. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:58 | |
Get your hands off me! | 0:44:58 | 0:44:59 | |
You don't touch me, right? | 0:44:59 | 0:45:01 | |
You're like a disease, you are. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:02 | |
And you're so bleeding pure, are you? | 0:45:02 | 0:45:04 | |
Get your stuff, you're coming home with me now. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:06 | |
You really want me back with you, you get clean, | 0:45:06 | 0:45:08 | |
then I might think about it. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:09 | |
Between us, we enjoyed the thing of being regarded as proper actors, | 0:45:11 | 0:45:16 | |
and so we sort of performed out of our skins, | 0:45:16 | 0:45:20 | |
because we wanted it to be good and we wanted to honour the material. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:22 | |
Occupy my time, right. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:24 | |
I want to occupy my time running a football team - | 0:45:24 | 0:45:26 | |
no poetry, no bloody games, no stupid confessions, just this. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:31 | |
I'll see what I can do. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:32 | |
Thank you ever so bleeding much! | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
David Thompson, who produced that film, | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
because of my contribution, | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
coming up with the story and the idea, | 0:45:41 | 0:45:43 | |
gave Crucial Films a credit, | 0:45:43 | 0:45:44 | |
and I'll always be grateful to him for that, | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
because it made me start to think that I should be someone | 0:45:47 | 0:45:49 | |
who comes up with stories as well as being a performer too. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:54 | |
I just kept thinking, "There's got to be another way of doing this." | 0:45:54 | 0:45:56 | |
And acting was the way forward. | 0:45:56 | 0:45:58 | |
My mum passed away, but it was like somebody | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
had pulled the rug away from your entire world, | 0:46:04 | 0:46:06 | |
and so I was just a bit off-piste, | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
thinking, "What am I going to do?" | 0:46:09 | 0:46:11 | |
And I decided to go back to school. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
So I did an Open University college degree. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
And I got a BA Honours in English Literature. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:18 | |
The penultimate year of that was a year of Shakespeare, | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
which I really did not enjoy. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:23 | |
But, by the end of it, | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
I just started to develop this thing of, | 0:46:26 | 0:46:29 | |
"I know what these plays are like." | 0:46:29 | 0:46:30 | |
And I'd kind of listen to the plays - | 0:46:30 | 0:46:32 | |
I'd drive into London, listen to the first half, | 0:46:32 | 0:46:35 | |
and drive back home to Reading and listen to part two. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:38 | |
I was listening to a play a day, every day, for a year. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:42 | |
Till he unseamed him from the nave to th' chaps, | 0:46:42 | 0:46:45 | |
And fixed his head upon our battlements. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
And suddenly, inculcated within me, was this thing of... | 0:46:50 | 0:46:54 | |
It was like Neo, in The Matrix, you know? | 0:46:54 | 0:46:56 | |
Suddenly, it was like... "I know kung fu." | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
Suddenly, I knew Shakespeare. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:02 | |
Me and Shakespeare. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:03 | |
Shakespeare? | 0:47:03 | 0:47:04 | |
You've got to be joking! | 0:47:04 | 0:47:06 | |
You see, I had this strange allergy to Shakespeare. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
'I did a radio show called Lenny And Will' | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
about how it felt like a very middle-class, Oxbridge thing, | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
it didn't feel like my kind of thing. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
It was always people going, "How, fee, thy foe, thy filleth." | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
You know, it always felt like that to me. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
People with lisps, with a cabbage down their front. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
When I met Barry Rutter, who said to me, | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
"Shakespeare's for everybody. We're both working-class lads. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:29 | |
"Shakespeare's for us as well as them." | 0:47:29 | 0:47:32 | |
And he did, "O, for a muse of fire" from Henry V. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
He did the chorus speech for me. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:36 | |
But he did it in a broad, unadorned Northern accent. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:40 | |
O for a muse of fire, that would ascend | 0:47:40 | 0:47:44 | |
The brightest heaven of invention, | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
A kingdom for a stage. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
And he blew my socks off, and I went, "I want to do that." | 0:47:49 | 0:47:54 | |
Oh, my fair warrior! | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
Oh, my dear Othello. | 0:47:57 | 0:47:59 | |
It gives me wonder great as my content | 0:48:00 | 0:48:02 | |
To see you here before me. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:03 | |
O, my soul's joy! | 0:48:03 | 0:48:04 | |
If after every tempest come such calms... | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
We've all been offered parts in A Midsummer's Nights Dream | 0:48:07 | 0:48:10 | |
and said, "Oh, yeah, maybe I'll have a go at Bottom", all that stuff. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
But the first Shakespeare he did was Othello. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
To pick it up and take on | 0:48:15 | 0:48:19 | |
a gigantic, major, dramatic role like that would require, | 0:48:19 | 0:48:25 | |
I suppose, that you opened yourself up | 0:48:25 | 0:48:27 | |
and said, "How do I do this? | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
For him to, you know, be known as a comedian | 0:48:30 | 0:48:32 | |
and then, suddenly, he's Othello, everyone was like, | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
"Really? Are you having a laugh?" But he was so good. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
And then you suddenly just go, "Actually... | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
"I'll just have to shut up, really, because he's actually quite good." | 0:48:38 | 0:48:41 | |
If more thou dost perceive, let me know more. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
Set thy wife on to observe. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
Leave me, Iago. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:47 | |
My lord, I take my leave. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:50 | |
'I keep thinking of, you know, | 0:48:50 | 0:48:52 | |
'myself as a 16-year-old kid, you know.' | 0:48:52 | 0:48:54 | |
Going, "Shakespeare's rubbish!" | 0:48:54 | 0:48:56 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:48:56 | 0:48:58 | |
So to be here now is extraordinary, you know? | 0:48:58 | 0:49:01 | |
This is the National Theatre. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:05 | |
We are in the Olivier, which is the biggest arena. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:08 | |
For the last three months, I've been doing Comedy Of Errors here. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:12 | |
He that commends me to mine own content | 0:49:12 | 0:49:14 | |
Commends me to the thing I cannot get. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:16 | |
'There's going to be a global telecast' | 0:49:16 | 0:49:19 | |
and I'm going to be performing on this stage, | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
with my fellow cast members | 0:49:22 | 0:49:24 | |
to an audience of potentially thousands, maybe millions. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:28 | |
You know, he could have made a very good living the rest of his life | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
doing stand-up and sketches and a bit of this and a bit of that. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:35 | |
But he's a restless boy | 0:49:35 | 0:49:37 | |
who is always exploring his own talent, | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
the boundaries of his own talent. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
Many people who've been through the whole university background, | 0:49:42 | 0:49:46 | |
one of the things that distinguishes them all, God bless them, | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
is they're all know-it-alls before they start. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:53 | |
And whenever I've met Lenny, | 0:49:53 | 0:49:55 | |
he's been working at learning about something. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:59 | |
He was just an actor. You know, for us, | 0:50:04 | 0:50:06 | |
he was just one of the actors. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:08 | |
But you forget that he was probably being very heavily judged. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:14 | |
But it didn't feel like that. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
Everybody, in all my acting experiences, | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
nobody has once said, | 0:50:21 | 0:50:22 | |
-"Yeah, but you're just that -BLEEP -comedian." | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
They all, kind of, go, "Come on, then, let's play." | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
Which of you two did dine with me today? | 0:50:30 | 0:50:35 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
I, gentle mistress. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:41 | |
And you not my husband? | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
No, I say nay to that. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:45 | |
And so do I. Yet she did call me so. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:48 | |
And this fair gentlewoman, her sister here, | 0:50:48 | 0:50:50 | |
did call me brother. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
What I told you then, I hope I shall have leisure to make good. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
I felt like he was living a dream, performing. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
Because he had... | 0:51:02 | 0:51:04 | |
He was so excited and had so much energy. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:08 | |
And it was, he was like a kid. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:12 | |
EXCITED LAUGHTER | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
I love acting. I want to be an actor. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:23 | |
So if anybody's out there, who has a job, | 0:51:23 | 0:51:26 | |
I'm on lennypleasegivemeajob.com. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:30 | |
Danny And The Human Zoo was a big thing for me. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:38 | |
The film ended up being about something real | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
but it was refracted through memory, magic realism and name-changing. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:49 | |
So I did all of those things and was able to tell my story, | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
but without it being MY story. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
The stuff about my mum was true, | 0:52:00 | 0:52:04 | |
which was...tricky, | 0:52:04 | 0:52:06 | |
cos my family had to make a decision | 0:52:06 | 0:52:09 | |
about whether this was all right to do. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
I think there's still things to be worked out about that. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:13 | |
You know, not everybody likes their business chatted about in public. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
The bloke you were dancing with is the spitting image of me. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:21 | |
What are you...? | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
What are you talking about? | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
I'd known about my upbringing for a very long time | 0:52:27 | 0:52:31 | |
and I just thought it was time, you know? | 0:52:31 | 0:52:33 | |
I'm over 50. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:35 | |
If I can't say that my birth father | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
is different to the person that raised me, | 0:52:38 | 0:52:40 | |
then, you know, what good is being an adult? | 0:52:40 | 0:52:42 | |
Me fall pregnant with you in the autumn. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:46 | |
And me have to write and tell him the situation. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:51 | |
Calvin wouldn't break up his family and I didn't want that either. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:58 | |
And Kascion Franklin, | 0:52:58 | 0:52:59 | |
you've got to fall in love with that boy's face. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:01 | |
He was fantastic. He'd never done impressions before. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:04 | |
-AS TOMMY COOPER: -Ladies and gentlemen. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
You may have seen some of these impressions before. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
But not in colour. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:10 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:53:10 | 0:53:12 | |
He'd acted a lot, but he literally didn't know who Tommy Cooper was. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:16 | |
I had to... | 0:53:16 | 0:53:17 | |
AS TOMMY COOPER: I had to sit in this hotel room... | 0:53:17 | 0:53:19 | |
It was very funny - we were both in the hotel room | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
going, "Hello, Betty." "Is it like that?" | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
"No... Hello, Betty. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
"A bit more..." | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
I said to my mum, I'm going to marry Betty from next door. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:33 | |
She said, "What about if babies come? What then?" | 0:53:33 | 0:53:35 | |
I said, "Well, we talked about it and if she lays any eggs | 0:53:35 | 0:53:40 | |
"then I'll just stamp on them." | 0:53:40 | 0:53:42 | |
We had a premiere in a cinema in Dudley. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:48 | |
People from Dudley, who were probably in that story, | 0:53:48 | 0:53:52 | |
were able to watch it unfold on a big screen | 0:53:52 | 0:53:55 | |
like they were watching On Golden Pond or something. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
It was a... | 0:53:58 | 0:53:59 | |
That was a major moment. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
I made a very low-budget, very lo-fi album with some friends, | 0:54:09 | 0:54:14 | |
and it became a thing, it was fantastic. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
I made a record called The Cops Don't Know. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:18 | |
# If black lives matter | 0:54:18 | 0:54:20 | |
# Then how come the cops don't know? | 0:54:20 | 0:54:24 | |
# The cops don't know... # | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
'I wanted people to know that' | 0:54:29 | 0:54:31 | |
there was a solidarity there. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:33 | |
I'd seen the news about Trayvon and all these terrible shootings | 0:54:33 | 0:54:37 | |
and I'd read Gary Younge's reports from America | 0:54:37 | 0:54:40 | |
about all of these people being shot by the police. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:42 | |
And I wrote a song about it. | 0:54:42 | 0:54:44 | |
# If black lives matter | 0:54:44 | 0:54:46 | |
# Then how come the cops don't know? | 0:54:46 | 0:54:50 | |
# How come the cops don't know? # | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
I'm under no illusions that I can sing, | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
but I do love singing. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
Jools Holland lets me sing with him sometimes. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
# You got me begging | 0:55:03 | 0:55:05 | |
# You got me begging | 0:55:05 | 0:55:07 | |
# You got me begging | 0:55:07 | 0:55:09 | |
# You got me begging... # | 0:55:09 | 0:55:10 | |
Lenny Henry. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:15 | |
It's very much a fan singing. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:16 | |
And I love the blues, I've recently discovered the blues, | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
and I found that I can sing the blues. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:20 | |
# 21st century | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
# I'm just a bit confused | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
# Now you got me singing | 0:55:25 | 0:55:27 | |
# New millennium blues... # | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
# New millennium blues... # Yeah. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:36 | |
It really suits him when he sings the blues. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:38 | |
He looks great. He puts his suit on | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
and he's got the little Blues Brother thing going on. I love it. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
I think it really, really works for him. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
# A man walked past | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
# Just trying to stare me down | 0:55:48 | 0:55:52 | |
# And when I looked at you | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
# You would look at the ground... # | 0:55:58 | 0:56:02 | |
When he asked me to collaborate a couple of times with him | 0:56:02 | 0:56:07 | |
on his shows, I was jumping at the chance. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:10 | |
# Got my mojo working | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
# Got my mojo working | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
# Got my mojo working | 0:56:14 | 0:56:16 | |
# Got my mojo working... # | 0:56:16 | 0:56:18 | |
And after singing all night my voice was going, | 0:56:18 | 0:56:20 | |
so you could hear me going, HOARSE: # I've got my mojo... # | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
It was literally like Les Dawson. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:25 | |
# Got my mojo working | 0:56:25 | 0:56:27 | |
# Got my mojo working | 0:56:27 | 0:56:29 | |
# Got my mojo working | 0:56:29 | 0:56:31 | |
# Got my mojo working | 0:56:31 | 0:56:33 | |
# Got my mojo working. # | 0:56:33 | 0:56:35 | |
You've been fantastic. Thank you very much. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:37 | |
Goodnight, we love you. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:39 | |
It was an amazing night. And I loved it. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:41 | |
He's a very multi-talented individual. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
And to have a career that spanned so many years, like, I mean, | 0:56:48 | 0:56:55 | |
consistently evolving into different aspects of himself - | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
that takes a lot of guts and courage. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
And also, being really good at those things, too. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:05 | |
That's really very special. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
Everything he touches, actually, | 0:57:16 | 0:57:18 | |
it seems that he makes a success out of it. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:21 | |
Because his heart is 100% in it. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:27 | |
-How old are you, Bernard? -I'm 16. | 0:57:27 | 0:57:28 | |
-You're 16? -Yeah. -OK. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:30 | |
I'm 26. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:32 | |
I do think that his... | 0:57:35 | 0:57:38 | |
taking leadership of the diversity issue has been an amazing thing. | 0:57:38 | 0:57:43 | |
The speeches he's given, in the forums in which he's done so, | 0:57:43 | 0:57:47 | |
shows that he's really, really concerned about it. | 0:57:47 | 0:57:50 | |
If it feels like I'm banging on a bit about diversity all the time | 0:57:50 | 0:57:53 | |
it's because I believe in increasing it, | 0:57:53 | 0:57:56 | |
so that we truly reflect our fantastic nation, | 0:57:56 | 0:57:59 | |
ensuring that all those 14-year-olds out there, | 0:57:59 | 0:58:01 | |
superglued to their phones, | 0:58:01 | 0:58:03 | |
who hope to work in TV irrespective of their race, gender, sexuality, | 0:58:03 | 0:58:08 | |
class, disability, | 0:58:08 | 0:58:10 | |
can realise that ambition, as I was able to realise mine. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:14 | |
I bump into him occasionally now and the nice thing is, | 0:58:14 | 0:58:16 | |
he hasn't forgotten me. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:18 | |
And my part in his downfall! | 0:58:18 | 0:58:20 | |
No, my part in his career, which I'm very proud of. | 0:58:20 | 0:58:23 | |
AS FRANK SPENCER: Well, it wasn't a complete waste of time. | 0:58:23 | 0:58:26 | |
Some of these skills have come in quite handy! | 0:58:26 | 0:58:28 | |
He is a national treasure. | 0:58:29 | 0:58:31 | |
I know national treasure is a bit of a cliche, but he is. | 0:58:31 | 0:58:34 | |
You know, people love him. | 0:58:34 | 0:58:35 | |
And I don't know how he keeps managing to do it, to be honest. | 0:58:35 | 0:58:38 | |
People of Britain, give big phone. | 0:58:38 | 0:58:41 | |
But now... I've always wanted to say that. | 0:58:41 | 0:58:43 | |
I can't get you at the moment, I'm on the phone. | 0:58:43 | 0:58:45 | |
People respect what Lenny Henry does. | 0:58:47 | 0:58:49 | |
And they like what Lenny Henry does. | 0:58:49 | 0:58:51 | |
That's... You've scooped the pool if you can get all that. | 0:58:51 | 0:58:55 |