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MUSIC: "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother" by The Hollies

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# The road is long

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# With many a winding turn

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# That leads us... #

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13 years ago, the BBC set out on an ambitious project.

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To follow the lives of 25 children

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after their birth at the millennium.

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# But I'm strong... #

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And in the process, we've captured ordinary family life in 21st-century Britain.

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Our cameras have been in their homes,

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from towns and villages,

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to inner cities,

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and rural countryside,

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revealing the ups and downs life has thrown at them.

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I never guessed she would die.

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But I can remember quite clearly the afternoon in which I found out.

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I think I was ten. And my dad had an affair.

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I'm glad they're growing up to be nice young ladies

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and I love them to bits.

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We've seen our families change.

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Now, Child Of Our Time is growing up.

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Our children are ready to share their thoughts and feelings as they hit their teenage years.

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# He ain't heavy

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# He's my brother. #

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12 is like being in the middle of being a teenager and being a kid.

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You're an in-between age, so you kind of feel different from others.

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Every day should be an ice-cream day when you're 12, because your body can take it.

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Shallow people are going to be best friends with you for a piece of gum.

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Everyone's obsessed with chewing gum at 12.

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She used to love pink and fairies and things like that,

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but that's now gone.

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She is good at doing that teenage focusing out the rest of the world,

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where they don't see anything apart from what's immediately in front of them on a screen!

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-Bossy, would you say?

-But there again, she's 12, she's experimenting with...

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Yeah, but she bosses you around an awful lot, and me!

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# He ain't heavy... #

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Tonight, we'll see our children

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preparing for the greatest change in their lives

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and how their parents will need to let them go

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to grow as adults.

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He's not a grown-up yet, so he struggles to say

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what he is feeling.

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If you say to them one day, "How are you feeling?" "I don't know."

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Another time, all this stuff will come out.

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It's quite scary, actually, seeing myself get older, you know.

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I don't know, it's just... How could I have been so small and I can be so tall now?

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It's a bit confusing, you know.

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Like any growing-up young girl,

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every single young girl is a massive flaming problem.

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And so there's that! It's there.

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You know, she's growing up and she's got to move on into life.

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And those are very difficult, brave decisions on how you guide a young person through that.

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Helena was the first of our children to be born, when her mother, Jeanette,

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pregnant with triplets, went into premature labour.

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I'm just checking...

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He's head down at the moment. Head here.

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'I remember being in hospital, in Cheltenham.'

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It was four o'clock in the morning and my waters broke at 22 weeks.

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And then the doctor having a look and he could see the baby's hand.

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What I didn't realise was the exceptional complications

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going through full-term with triplets.

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And there were two girls and a boy, and it just went wrong.

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Born three and a half months early, the first two babies, Barry and Millie, died.

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Helena survived, barely clinging on to life.

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You didn't know when the phone was going to go and say, "Your child's dying."

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It was like that. That's how near it was. And you were warned about this.

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We don't know the hour, the moment or the day when something's going to go right or wrong.

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You spend hours and hours looking at your little baby

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and willing them to survive.

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I remember going in one day, and the piece of skin between her nose and her mouth had started to grow.

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I could see that it was a bit of distance there. "She's growing! Her eyes are opening!"

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This sort of thing. All the very, very tiny, little benchmarks.

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But after several weeks of intensive care, Helena's condition suddenly deteriorated.

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I remember saying to a technician, "What are you scanning her for?"

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And they said, "We're just looking to see what's going on in her heart, it's blocked."

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And the world fell apart at that moment in time.

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Helena had a blood clot in her heart and other complications were setting in.

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She was getting worse. She'd got some problem where she was expanding with water.

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They said, "Right, your daughter's really ill.

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"Chances are she's going to be seriously handicapped. She'll never be right."

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Two days later, they're asking to turn her life support off.

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And my overwhelming memory is,

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"Why did I bury Millie and little Barry when Helena's going to die?"

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Jeanette and Barry were faced with their worst nightmare.

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Either ending Helena's life or letting her survive with the near certainty of permanent brain damage.

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We're stood in this room, next to her cot.

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And she's sedated and her eyes are watching us have this conversation.

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And as I looked at her, it showed me that she wanted to fight.

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And I just thought, "God, if she's got that much determination

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"then we need to just fight for everything you can do."

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You know that there is a bond, something that's quite extraordinary -

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a feeling, something happening - quite powerfully.

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Definitely, we weren't turning that child off.

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Not a cat in hell's chance. It wasn't going to happen.

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And they said, "All we can do is experiment." I said, "Let's go and experiment, then."

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They said, "We can give her a drug that, if it's a blood clot on her heart,

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"it may dissolve it, but it has never worked with babies before.

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"There's a one-in-a-million chance it will work. If it works, she's going to have a major handicap."

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But you don't care at that point. You take what's being offered, because you want your baby to live.

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And, you know, she lived.

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And the drug worked.

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48 hours later, she was out of intensive care.

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And she turned out to be a great fighter.

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And it was... Well, it was magic,

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how nobody expected her to live

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and, all of a sudden, she surprised everybody.

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Three months later, Helena was off life support

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and able to go home.

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-HELENA GIVES A TINY CRY

-And you like it, don't you? Eh?

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Keep going! Whey!

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Arabesque!

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Roll!

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Jump! Jump! Jump!

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Turn!

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# Downtown girl The sun is shining! #

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Let there be cake!

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Oh, well done, Helena!

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Helena's story is a story of survival, survival against the odds, there's no doubt about that.

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But, equally, Helena can't live with that label for the rest of her life.

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Helena has to get on with a normal teenage life.

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We struggle to do that sometimes, cos we wrap her up in cotton wool, cos she's so special to us.

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In September 2012, Helena became a teenager.

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Mum and Dad are now divorced, but Barry is still a full-time dad.

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-Anybody home?

-Yeah, I'm here.

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-POSH:

-Oh, hello!

-Hello.

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I'm so pleased you got your hair back to its curly self.

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'It's always been her ambition to be a journalist of some sort.'

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And she watches journalists and she reads a tremendous amount.

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If I do end up being a journalist, I don't want to be one of those annoying ones in David...

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like, waits outside Number 10 for ages.

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No offence to people who actually do that.

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I write fan fiction.

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I'm obsessed with it.

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It's usually sad things, cos sad things are easier to write about, let's face it.

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Cos otherwise, it's a flipping fairy tale.

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I don't want to write fairy tales!

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They're too flipping... You know what happens!

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A beautiful girl is treated badly and then loads of crap happens.

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And then she marries someone at, like, 16.

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What's with THAT?!

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She's a child that was made for the 21st century.

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She was made by technology.

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She was saved by technology and she loves technology.

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As long as she's still got her mobile phone, her computer and her iPod,

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she will be happy, I'm sure.

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SIREN BLARES

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After Helena's birth in September 1999,

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the rest of our children on Child Of Our Time were born over the millennium.

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-MAN:

-Oh! Come, my little baby.

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WOMAN: Cutie!

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It's sort of like, "Yippee! Let's have children! Now what do I do?"

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I remember the first night we brought her home, it was freezing cold.

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Oh! Putting her in the car!

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"Oh, there's a car 200 yards away! I'm slowing down. I'm pulling up. Don't come any closer!"

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People always say it's a magical time having you and your baby.

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-One of the saddest things you said was you never looked back on it with any great...

-It was just a grind.

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I don't believe what he's just done!

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HE LAUGHS

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Ivo, that's very naughty.

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ALL: Whoo!

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That was the first proper two steps that she's actually took.

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Even in the first few years,

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the children's personalities had begun to take shape.

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Taliesin as a toddler liked the attention being on him

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and didn't like it if you had to do something else. One of his favourite tricks was unplugging the Hoover.

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And the first time it happened, I stripped the Hoover apart,

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because there was no way the plug could have just fallen out the wall.

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And it happened again. And this time, I just saw two little feet crawling off into the front room

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and realised that he'd come and unplugged it, and then crawled off, acting all innocent.

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You monkey!

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So, yeah, he was a practical joker from birth, basically, I think.

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When Parys was younger, I relied a lot on voice.

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Wait for Mama. Stay there. Hold the door for me.

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Good boy.

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Like when he got out of the car. He knew that I couldn't...

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You see mums clinging on to the child for dear life,

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cos they're so frightened he's going to go across the road. Parys didn't do that.

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Good boy. Parys...

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Good boy. Right, you be very careful because there's cars, OK?

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Hold on to Mama. Good boy! Good boy! Hold on to Mama.

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Right, now, you stay here. Bit more! Bit more!

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Bit more. Stay there, stay there! Now stay there, please. Please stay there.

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'When I said, "Stay with me," he stayed. He just knew.

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'So, he relied on me verbally, rather than physically.'

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You're being such a clever boy. Come here! Good boy. That's it.

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She put trust into me to listen to her.

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I couldn't just, like, ignore her,

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cos she couldn't, like, physically pick me up and move me,

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or, like, grab me to take me somewhere. I'd have to always listen to her, which I would.

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WHISTLING AND APPLAUSE

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Alison Lapper found fame as an artist.

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In 2005, a cast of her body was placed on a plinth in Trafalgar Square in London.

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CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS

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Alison took Parys almost everywhere she went and the two developed the strongest bond.

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-Where are we going?

-We're going to the Eiffel Tower, babes.

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And me?

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Oh, absolutely! Of course and you! Where do I go without you?

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He's travelled a lot for someone so young.

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But I like him being around!

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I like being with him. I enjoy him.

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He IS my world.

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You know, he is so important to me.

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Mwah! You're such a brave boy being up here.

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It's great having a famous mum but, the down side is, she always talks to everybody who comes past.

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-Nice to meet you. It's so great to meet you.

-Thank you, and you.

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For example, when we went to Korea.

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For some weird reason, we were really big over there.

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So, everywhere we went, we felt like Tom Cruise.

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And it got annoying, because we couldn't do anything we wanted

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without having, like, 25 people following us with cameras.

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It's not only Alison's fame which has meant that they are constantly surrounded by people.

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Since Parys was born, they've had her carer living with them.

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'There are people in mine and Parys' lives 24/7.'

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It's got its good qualities and bad qualities.

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For example, good qualities if you want some food or a cup of tea,

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then they'd kindly make it for you.

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But the bad thing is, if I just wanted to be with my mum,

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they'd always be around, don't have much privacy.

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Like, not have anybody else in the house apart from me and my mum. I can't do that.

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Every once in a while, my mum can say to the PA,

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"You can stay at home," and then me and my mum can just be out, me and her.

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We're going to go to the FrightFest. Yeah, we're going to do that Tuesday.

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'If we're out on our own...'

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He really... He loves that.

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It's less invading. Like, you can just...

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It's just time with you and your mum. You don't have someone following you all the time.

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-..Oh, yeah.

-Because I need to book it for everybody, yeah.

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But these precious moments together are now coming to an end,

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as Parys reaches his teens.

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I look at him and my baby is gone.

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'And I can see glimpses of the man

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'that he's going to look like coming through.'

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-Mum.

-Yeah!

-Do you like any of these scarves?

-Let's have a look!

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'The way he walks, the way he carries himself, little bit different.

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'And as he grows, we change and our relationship changes

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'and, definitely, he is stepping back.'

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Would that definitely go with the poncho?

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'I hope that we'll always have a good relationship...'

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I've done my best

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and I hope I haven't... done too badly.

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Let's go!

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Ever since filming began, our parents have had different and changing careers.

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COW MOOS

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Only time will tell how this may influence what their children might do later on in life.

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When I grow up, I'd like to be some sort of doctor.

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When I grow up, I would like to be a doctor or a scientist.

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I hope to see myself doing something clever,

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or else be a YouTube gamer.

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I think it'll be something to do with sport,

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but I'm not sure which sport yet.

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I don't really know what I want to be when I'm older,

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but I know I'd like to have a job that I enjoy.

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My mum wanted me to be an astronaut when I was small,

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but she kind of knew that I don't think that's going to happen for me

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cos I am not so clever at science.

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I wanted to make her like astronaut and she's totally different girl.

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Het Shah lives with her family in north London.

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My first thing would be to be an actress,

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and then kind of slowly move on to my singing career and have my own, I guess, band and my album.

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And then have my own fashion line, so do fashion designing too.

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And have my own album alongside doing movies as well, so doing everything at a time.

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Up to now, Het was a little girl and whatever I was telling her, she was listening.

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As I say, she's a very easy girl.

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But now she's in secondary school, she got her own thinking.

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I probably will go US or LA to kind of follow my dreams.

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And sometimes I feel so powerful that I can do anything, I will do, cos I know I can achieve it.

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Kayla.

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Here, have a chunk of grass.

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If I do try and get a doctorate and get in the psychology thing that I really want to do,

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or photography or forensic science, singing, whatever!

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You know, I have loads of different things to fall back on.

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The only important things about the job is - one, I enjoy it, and two, it earns good money.

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Since she was very young, Rhianna has always understood the value of money.

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Sometimes we have been quite pressed for money,

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but I never liked being like that.

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When I was a little kid I'd go, "This is an own brand and this is not an own brand, this one's cheaper."

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'So, I knew from quite an early age about how much things costed

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'and what I can't get and can get.'

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-Let's go home now.

-I just need some money.

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-No, you don't.

-Well, you can pay for everything, then, with your great wad of money in your purse.

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-No.

-Thanks.

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-Bye.

-Bye-bye!

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The family's finances have often been tight. Andy has tried many different jobs.

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To be honest, you've always been a really, really good worker

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when you put your mind to it.

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-It's just that in the past, you got slightly distracted quite quickly.

-Yeah.

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There are some things I've started and not seen through, yeah, I'll agree with that.

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Fishing, caged birds.

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-Mini-motorbikes, quads, go-karts.

-The kitchen at Monk Fryston.

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-Off-road buggies.

-The conservatory at Monk Fryston.

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-Buying and selling cars.

-Once the novelty's gone, you're not interested any more.

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Ow! That's sharp!

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What colour do you want?

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You got it? You've got it.

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Smashing! Thank you very much.

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Andy even tried his hand as a market trader.

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Do you want one? Excellent. Take your pick.

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Some days you can have marvellous days and then, two or three weeks on the trot, nothing.

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Poor, poor as a church mouse, and then you're trying to...just live!

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'If there was work there, I'd do it. If there wasn't, fine.'

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There was no, "Oh, I'd better think about paying the mortgage in four months' time."

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Four months' time! Four days, I don't think I could even...

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Four hours I could cope with. Four days? Mm-mm. Four months?

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I would have thought you'd have just said, "Mortgage? What's a mortgage?"

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You know what I mean, never planned anything.

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Right, we need a withdrawal with receipt.

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'My mum's quite financially cautious.

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She's the one that worries about the finances.'

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She'll be the one that's going, "Oh, we can't. Maybe. Oh, no!" She'll be the one fretting.

0:24:130:24:17

-I did get resentful cos you weren't pulling your weight.

-Yeah.

0:24:170:24:20

-Very resentful, in a very quiet and undermining way, I would guess.

-Mm-hm.

0:24:200:24:27

My dad will do whatever he wants, when he wants, in whatever he likes to wear,

0:24:270:24:31

which tends to be his dressing gown on a morning, sat outside smoking.

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You just had moments where you were...

0:24:340:24:36

-..childish.

-Yeah, quite possibly.

-Self-centred and childish.

-Yes.

0:24:400:24:43

But the core person wasn't... You're not a bad person. I didn't ever hate you...

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enough.

0:24:490:24:50

One of his favourite catchphrases is, when he comes back and he's hungry, "Nobody loves me.

0:24:530:24:57

"Everybody hates me. I'm going to go and eat worms".

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Which is... You know, we encourage him to do that.

0:25:000:25:04

But Andy now has a regular job and seems quite settled.

0:25:070:25:11

With Rhianna growing up - and Rhianna's 12 now -

0:25:130:25:16

she needs stability and there needs to be constant money.

0:25:160:25:21

And it does feel good to have a constant income.

0:25:210:25:25

I go out. I go to work. I get paid.

0:25:250:25:28

And I know next month, it's going to be there again and again and again and again and again.

0:25:280:25:33

I can start sort of...

0:25:330:25:36

mentally thinking, "Right, I can save £100 here and £100 there."

0:25:360:25:42

Never quite happens like that, I'm afraid.

0:25:420:25:45

I always seem to find some way of spending it, but hey-ho!

0:25:450:25:50

-I'll work on that one.

-Mm.

0:25:500:25:52

I think it's good he's retrained and that he's trying again, but he also needs to stick at one thing,

0:25:570:26:02

instead of going, "Ooh, look! This is nice!" Flitting from different things.

0:26:020:26:06

He needs to stay at one particular thing, ground himself and just...

0:26:060:26:10

One thing he enjoys or doesn't enjoy, I don't care, as long as he brings in good cash.

0:26:100:26:15

If I do enter a relationship when I'm a lot older, I will have separate bank accounts, no joint.

0:26:170:26:23

I think it's good to be independent,

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cos if things don't work out, for whatever reason, it's good to have your own thing to fall back on.

0:26:260:26:32

When it comes to the home environment,

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it's not only we parents who shape our children's lives.

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Most of our children have grandparents, sisters and brothers too.

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# Our house

0:27:050:27:07

# In the middle of our street

0:27:070:27:09

# Our house... #

0:27:090:27:10

Matthew Singleton lives just outside London.

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He and his brother, Robert, have been fierce rivals since they were young.

0:27:140:27:19

When we do play sports against each other, we are quite competitive,

0:27:200:27:25

both of us, but sometimes we do get too competitive

0:27:250:27:31

and maybe we argue.

0:27:310:27:33

Matthew, in the past, has got very frustrated cos he used to always

0:27:330:27:38

think he was the same age as Robert cos they were the same height.

0:27:380:27:41

I had to say to him so many times, "You're two years younger than him."

0:27:410:27:45

And he would become so competitive

0:27:450:27:47

and wanting to beat Robert all the time and get so angry.

0:27:470:27:51

At one point, they were very close and people sometimes would say, "Oh, you've got twins!"

0:27:520:27:57

I took them into work one and a guy said, "I didn't realise you had twins."

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And I said, "No, no, they're two years apart."

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But in the last year, things have changed as his older brother has gone through puberty.

0:28:040:28:10

Robert's suddenly shot up in height,

0:28:100:28:13

towering above Matthew, and I think that's changed the dynamic.

0:28:130:28:17

-Matthew...

-Matthew loves having a big brother, he really loves it.

-Robert's getting to adult size now.

0:28:170:28:23

I had no idea that that height thing, psychologically, would make such a difference.

0:28:240:28:29

-And they definitely get on much, much better now.

-Yeah.

0:28:290:28:32

-Oh, that's hot! Ow!

-Are you all right?

-Yeah.

0:28:320:28:36

The brothers' rivalry has just been a normal part of growing up

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and for them, they've had a secure and tight-knit family throughout their lives.

0:28:400:28:45

From the kids' perspective, it's been a very, very stable upbringing.

0:28:450:28:51

We've not changed. We've not separated. We've not divorced.

0:28:510:28:53

We've been told off occasionally by our children

0:28:530:28:58

for having such a happy atmosphere at home, because they've got no traumas they can talk about to people.

0:28:580:29:04

That's lovely! That's good!

0:29:040:29:07

Do we need to wipe your nose? OK.

0:29:070:29:10

Smile, both of you.

0:29:100:29:12

'The thing is, we live round the corner and Matthew has a particularly close relationship with Raymond,

0:29:120:29:17

'which is lovely.'

0:29:170:29:19

'Matthew, for some time, passed our house every day on the way to school and coming home. And, er...'

0:29:190:29:27

They would call in and they got biscuits.

0:29:270:29:31

Used the loo sometimes.

0:29:310:29:33

Well, I have a very vivid memory of... Perhaps you do too.

0:29:330:29:37

..of the first day that Matthew went to infant school.

0:29:370:29:41

And he ran ahead of his parents in his new uniform coming past our house

0:29:410:29:46

and he just leapt up into our arms.

0:29:460:29:49

It is a delightful relationship and I think it's very important to be physically close.

0:29:490:29:55

-Oooh! Are you going to school?

-Hello.

-RAYMOND LAUGHS

0:29:550:29:59

But growing up brings about change and this family have a difficult time ahead.

0:29:590:30:05

My grandma's got Parkinson's disease

0:30:050:30:08

and because of that, she's had to move into a home.

0:30:080:30:13

Which was a very, very big wrench for all of us, especially my father.

0:30:130:30:17

It's much better now that she's in a home because she has proper carers.

0:30:170:30:23

You don't really know how you're meant to feel, because it's as if...

0:30:230:30:28

She's not died, but yet, it's that... It does feel somehow as if she's died.

0:30:280:30:34

Suddenly, your family that you always knew were together,

0:30:340:30:39

that you always relied on and always just assumed were going to be there for ever together until they died,

0:30:390:30:46

suddenly it's been pulled apart.

0:30:460:30:48

As far as Raymond and I are concerned,

0:30:480:30:52

I think this time is easier for me than for him.

0:30:520:30:56

But, you see, I'm very aware of the fact we've had

0:30:560:30:59

54 very good years, by anybody's standards.

0:30:590:31:03

And we've had a lovely time. He's bringing in albums from our...

0:31:030:31:09

The family have all laughed at me. I've had these photo albums, like a true old grandma,

0:31:090:31:13

but every since we met.

0:31:130:31:16

And we've had great fun and so have the boys. To our delight, they've picked up on them.

0:31:160:31:20

-The legacy that your mum will leave the boys...

-Yeah.

0:31:200:31:24

Having grandparents living round the corner, and she's put so much into them.

0:31:240:31:28

There's so many things they'll remember.

0:31:280:31:31

You look at the boys now and you think they wouldn't be like that if it wasn't for their grandparents.

0:31:310:31:36

I didn't think they'd be interested looking at these...all these pictures of our lives together

0:31:360:31:42

and all the holidays we've had and so on.

0:31:420:31:45

So, I think we've got an awful lot to be thankful for, so...

0:31:450:31:49

-Are you all right?

-Fine.

0:31:490:31:52

SHE LAUGHS

0:31:520:31:54

-My name's Ivo.

-My name's Alex!

0:32:230:32:26

Close relationships cement families together.

0:32:260:32:31

These bonds are often never stronger than between identical twins,

0:32:310:32:36

like Alex and Ivo Lloyd-Young in Glasgow.

0:32:360:32:39

Having a twin is like having a best friend but who lives with you.

0:32:390:32:44

Just means you've got someone who looks very like you

0:32:440:32:47

and you can falsify crimes against them.

0:32:470:32:50

Having your best mate with you all the time is a fantastic concept.

0:32:500:32:56

What a great thing to have someone who's quite like you and shares interests with you

0:32:560:33:01

with you all the time, so you can hang out.

0:33:010:33:03

Go faster! Go faster!

0:33:080:33:11

I can do it myself.

0:33:150:33:17

But being an identical twin has one big drawback.

0:33:240:33:29

-Are you Ivo or Alex?

-Ivo.

0:33:290:33:31

-Alex, can I play?

-I'm Ivo!

0:33:310:33:34

-People think we look alike.

-We do!

0:33:340:33:37

Uh! And the majority of people look alike, but we don't think we look alike.

0:33:370:33:41

-I'm already confused. Who's Alex and who's Ivo?

-This is Alex.

0:33:410:33:44

People do it a lot. Just beginning to get boring,

0:33:440:33:47

having to tell them you're not the one they think you are.

0:33:470:33:50

They're clearly very aware they are very similar, and that is a problem for people to tell them apart.

0:33:500:33:56

So, they'd just started wearing coloured clothes.

0:33:560:33:59

OK, I'll do it.

0:33:590:34:01

-I wear blue. He wears red.

-Ow!

0:34:010:34:04

Yeah, we have to do this so people can tell the difference.

0:34:040:34:07

Otherwise we just get called Ivo or Alex all the time.

0:34:070:34:11

See, like, I could be called Ivo and he could be called Alex.

0:34:110:34:15

The person who's Ivo is completely different to the person who's Alex.

0:34:150:34:19

Although, interestingly, they share a lot of personality traits, they are completely different.

0:34:190:34:25

We've been with the Child Of Our Time children at every milestone of their lives.

0:34:360:34:41

Starting primary school was a big moment.

0:34:430:34:46

PFFT!

0:34:490:34:51

PFFT!

0:34:510:34:52

And in 2011, the children started secondary school

0:34:530:34:58

and faced a whole new set of challenges.

0:34:580:35:02

Secondary school, that was the big one for me.

0:35:060:35:09

It was - Rhianna Lees, 11-year-old, first week at secondary school,

0:35:090:35:15

and you got this other person came home at night. It was, wow!

0:35:150:35:19

School's crap. They have all these "really good ideas about what kids enjoy"!

0:35:190:35:25

And a lot of the time, the kids don't want to do these "fun" theme days cos they're not fun.

0:35:250:35:30

Having started at secondary school last year, in Year Seven, I felt he slightly lost his confidence.

0:35:310:35:37

I think the whole enormity of going to secondary school,

0:35:370:35:40

trying to suddenly work out which classroom to go to, who the teachers were, what the names were.

0:35:400:35:45

All those things, which... At primary school, they were the oldest in the school.

0:35:450:35:50

Everybody knows them. They know everybody. It's smaller. I think that did really affect him.

0:35:500:35:55

Hey! Come in! How was it?

0:35:550:35:59

One worry that many parents have is that their children may be bullied.

0:35:590:36:04

Almost half of all British children are likely to be bullied at some point during school.

0:36:040:36:10

Someone's picking on them because of their weight, because they're too clever,

0:36:100:36:15

or they're dumb, kind of they're too skinny, they're fat, their appearance.

0:36:150:36:19

I hope that my children won't bully anybody else's, but they're not that temperament.

0:36:190:36:24

-I don't remember being bullied either when I was at school, on the contrary.

-Oh, I was.

0:36:240:36:30

SHE LAUGHS

0:36:300:36:32

Yes, I remember being locked in the lavatory when it was time to go to my piano class.

0:36:320:36:37

Sadly, for Taliesin Stevenson,

0:36:390:36:42

bullying has been an issue in his life since he was only four years old.

0:36:420:36:47

HE CRIES

0:36:470:36:51

They keep crashing with me. That isn't funny, is it?

0:36:550:37:00

They decided they didn't like me from pretty much the first day.

0:37:000:37:05

They never let me, like, play with them or anything like that.

0:37:050:37:09

They always left me out, they just used to call me names,

0:37:090:37:13

and, like, the normal kind of, like, what bullies do.

0:37:130:37:18

I think I was bullied because maybe I looked weaker than everyone else

0:37:180:37:23

and they decided to pick on the weakest.

0:37:230:37:26

I don't think they understood him. I think they were...

0:37:260:37:30

They weren't really on his level.

0:37:300:37:33

Um, and so he withdrew into what he found interesting.

0:37:330:37:38

It's so interesting!

0:37:400:37:43

It's a monster.

0:37:430:37:46

And then...

0:37:460:37:48

He didn't have this basic view that all the other children had of how everything goes together.

0:37:480:37:54

He took a photo of a fire extinguisher, I think, and birds flying.

0:37:540:38:00

Aah!

0:38:000:38:01

I just thought that was the most creative thing I could think of - birds flying in the sky.

0:38:010:38:06

I was amazed at that, from when I was young, so I'm like, "Ah!" Ching, ching, ching.

0:38:060:38:13

He had a totally different imaginary world that he lived in.

0:38:130:38:17

So, the birds flying and fire extinguishers

0:38:170:38:20

and everything else that caught his eye, really,

0:38:200:38:23

rather than focusing on the miserable situation that he was basically in.

0:38:230:38:28

Go away!

0:38:350:38:37

'There were so many times that I didn't want to go into school.

0:38:380:38:41

'Then I just started getting worse at that and saying, "I don't want to go in! I don't want to go in!"'

0:38:410:38:46

Then my mum said, "Is there a problem?" And that's how I told her after five years.

0:38:470:38:52

Knowing that I was sending him into an environment that he really wasn't comfortable with was...

0:38:520:38:58

It was awful for me, it really was, and I'd come home and cry.

0:38:580:39:03

I had to drive him into school a lot of times because he just wouldn't walk.

0:39:030:39:09

He just point blank refused.

0:39:090:39:12

Um, and I had to stand with him and wait and....

0:39:120:39:16

He'd go off and...

0:39:160:39:18

It was heartbreaking, absolutely heartbreaking.

0:39:180:39:21

Taliesin being bullied struck a nerve with Olivia,

0:39:250:39:29

because she had also suffered similarly in HER childhood.

0:39:290:39:33

I wasn't only bullied at school, but also being bullied at home by my father.

0:39:330:39:39

In June 2000, Olivia returned to her childhood home

0:39:440:39:48

to tell Child Of Our Time about her traumatic upbringing.

0:39:480:39:53

This is the woods that my mother's house backs on to.

0:39:530:39:58

When I was very, very young and got worried at home,

0:40:010:40:05

I used to jump over the fence and I'd run out into here.

0:40:050:40:09

It's like a safe haven.

0:40:120:40:15

So, it is hard as a parent, when you've been through that bullying,

0:40:190:40:24

to see that happening to your own child.

0:40:240:40:28

It's the worst feeling ever.

0:40:280:40:31

But I just knew I had to do something about it.

0:40:310:40:34

And I got myself a job there working as a midday assistant,

0:40:350:40:40

so that I could see.

0:40:400:40:42

I thought, "I'll know what he's up to from across the playground,

0:40:420:40:45

"and I'll see what he's doing to these other kids to provoke the reaction that he's getting."

0:40:450:40:51

And what I did see was an awful lot of stuff flying in his direction

0:40:510:40:57

when he was even walking away.

0:40:570:41:00

It was at that point that I decided it really wasn't going to work,

0:41:000:41:03

and I just had to remove him from the school and find somewhere else.

0:41:030:41:07

Taliesin moved schools, made new friends and is now much happier.

0:41:120:41:18

I think the bullying wasn't actually a bad thing.

0:41:180:41:21

Well, it is, but it wasn't bad as in the sense that it ruined my life.

0:41:210:41:26

I think it's made me stronger as a person,

0:41:300:41:33

like, deciding to stick up for myself rather than just take it.

0:41:330:41:38

# What doesn't kill you makes you stronger

0:41:380:41:41

# Stand a little taller

0:41:410:41:43

# Doesn't mean I'm lonely... #

0:41:430:41:45

He's got some really lovely friends now.

0:41:450:41:49

I don't begrudge them what they did. I think they did him a massive favour.

0:41:500:41:55

# What doesn't kill you makes you stronger

0:41:550:41:59

# Stronger

0:41:590:42:00

# Just me, myself and I

0:42:000:42:03

# What doesn't kill you makes you stronger

0:42:030:42:06

# Stand a little taller

0:42:060:42:08

# Doesn't mean I'm lonely when I alone... #

0:42:080:42:13

He's just so strong, and he's such a character.

0:42:130:42:17

And, um, I'm just so proud to be part of that,

0:42:170:42:22

to develop him into the adult that he's becoming.

0:42:220:42:27

# Doesn't mean I'm lonely when I'm alone

0:42:270:42:31

# I'm not alone. #

0:42:310:42:34

Everything changes when you become a teenager -

0:42:350:42:38

your mind, your body and, of course, your hormones.

0:42:380:42:43

That's it! Inside leg, left leg! Go, go, go!

0:42:430:42:47

And girls develop faster than boys.

0:42:470:42:50

Megan Davies lives in South Wales.

0:42:500:42:52

I definitely WAS a tomboy.

0:42:520:42:55

I don't think I am now, but I'm not one to wear dresses.

0:42:550:43:01

But, erm...

0:43:010:43:03

I don't think I'm as boyish as what I used to be.

0:43:030:43:07

She will paint her nails and she will doll herself up a bit,

0:43:070:43:13

but her fashion sense, compared to Delana, her sister, isn't the best.

0:43:130:43:20

Got to watch what you say now.

0:43:200:43:22

Some of the things Megan will wear...

0:43:220:43:25

We see her coming downstairs ready to go out for a meal or something.

0:43:250:43:29

"Where do you think you're going?" She's just got some horrendous choice of clothes on.

0:43:290:43:35

-So, we just leave it.

-She's not bothered at all.

-No, she's not that fussy.

0:43:350:43:40

Not a lot of my friends actually have boyfriends, cos we all stick to the same, like, motto kind of thing.

0:43:400:43:47

We all agree that we're a bit too young to take relationships seriously anyway, so...

0:43:470:43:53

They will choose their own friends.

0:43:530:43:56

They will decide what kind of life they want to lead, really.

0:43:560:44:02

And it's from now on this is where we'll see big changes, really.

0:44:020:44:07

It was quite a shock, actually, when we got to about the age of nine

0:44:100:44:14

and she went from being a very compliant little girl to saying, "No, I'm not going to do that,"

0:44:140:44:19

which is, OK, perfectly normal, I'm told. Erm...

0:44:190:44:23

She is a very, very typical teenager.

0:44:230:44:26

Spotty, becoming a woman,

0:44:260:44:29

capable of being a total pain in the arse,

0:44:290:44:32

and being a beautiful girl the next moment.

0:44:320:44:35

It's going to be hell, cos I'm always going to get into arguments with my mother.

0:44:350:44:40

I'm not looking forward to being a teenager.

0:44:400:44:44

It's just you get grumpy a lot.

0:44:440:44:47

Sometimes he's a pain in the butt.

0:44:500:44:53

And I have to remind myself that he's supposed to be pushing the boundaries.

0:44:530:44:58

She was angry, grounded me for, like, three weeks.

0:44:580:45:02

He's getting quite clothes conscious and he's quite into his music.

0:45:050:45:10

Oh, what's he called? I call him Tiny Tim and he gets furious with me.

0:45:100:45:16

Tiny somebody or other, singer. All these singers and things that he likes.

0:45:160:45:21

And, erm... And... Templer. Tiny Templer, I think. Something like that.

0:45:210:45:27

Sometimes, you know, I'll be, like, in the mood of a three-year-old

0:45:270:45:31

and spinning round in a circle is the best thing ever!

0:45:310:45:35

And a rainbow, you know, is magical, you know.

0:45:350:45:38

But then if I'm in, you know, a sensible mood,

0:45:380:45:41

nothing is funny, you know, everything is just, like, "Oh, God sakes!"

0:45:410:45:47

To look at, she's tall, quite mature for her age in some ways,

0:45:470:45:51

-but she's not as mature as she'd like to have you think.

-Yeah.

0:45:510:45:57

Mum says I'm a wicked child cos I like the idea of turning people into soup.

0:45:570:46:02

There's a film that does that. When they get old and decrepit, they turn them into soup.

0:46:020:46:07

She's becoming quite hard. She's deliberately developing a hard shell,

0:46:070:46:13

-which is alien to her natural character, to protect herself.

-To protect herself, yeah.

0:46:130:46:18

As a kid, empathy is useless because people will either take advantage of that, you know,

0:46:180:46:24

by asking silly things, like crayons, you know, whatever.

0:46:240:46:27

And you can't keep being friends with people you don't want to be friends with.

0:46:270:46:33

I think she's less trusting, isn't she?

0:46:330:46:37

Mum keeps saying, "You'll need it as an adult, blah, blah, blah!"

0:46:370:46:41

But I don't care. I'm not an adult at the moment.

0:46:410:46:44

This is how I want to be, otherwise it's going to ruin my life.

0:46:440:46:47

So, do you play for North...?

0:47:000:47:03

As children gain independence,

0:47:030:47:06

they start to make decisions for themselves,

0:47:060:47:09

and for one of our boys, this has had a dramatic impact on him and his family.

0:47:090:47:15

I stopped competing, really,

0:47:170:47:19

cos I got a bit...bored

0:47:190:47:23

and I was getting, like, a lot of pressure put on me.

0:47:230:47:27

Ah, fantastic play!

0:47:290:47:30

From a very young age, William Roberts seemed destined

0:47:300:47:34

to become a professional tennis player.

0:47:340:47:37

When I first started playing tennis, I was four.

0:47:370:47:40

I thought I was more naturally good a tennis player,

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cos people tell me that I'm very athletic.

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I think he's got a very good hand-to-eye coordination.

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He has a natural ability.

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He was definitely in the top eight for his age group in the country.

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APPLAUSE

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All William's spare time was taken up

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practising tennis and travelling to tournaments.

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-I'm not...!

-Calm down.

-HE WAILS

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'He was travelling further than nearly anyone.

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'He was giving up more school than nearly anyone.'

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Half the time, he'd have his lunch in the car.

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He had more meals in the car than anywhere else.

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And then drive off to training and you'd be there for hours and then coming back at night.

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And he's got to be up at school for eight o'clock in the morning and this isn't working.

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You realise it's too much pressure to be putting William through that if he's not enjoying it.

0:48:540:49:00

I was just getting a bit tired of it.

0:49:030:49:06

And I just started not being too keen on it.

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And started looking at other sports.

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And I was missing out on school sports that I wanted to do.

0:49:150:49:19

I was getting pulled off to tennis

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when I actually wanted to do cricket at school and stuff like that.

0:49:220:49:25

I just didn't want to really carry on.

0:49:250:49:30

I did say to Will, "If you want to carry on, Will, if you really want to carry on playing tennis,

0:49:340:49:40

"I will take you round the world."

0:49:400:49:43

He said, "I don't know. You're the adult, it's up to you."

0:49:430:49:48

And I said, "Well, Will, do you want to carry on playing tennis?" "I don't know."

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And eventually I said, "Look, love, 'I don't know' isn't really enough any more,

0:49:520:49:58

"because it's too big a thing."

0:49:580:50:01

It was tough on her as well because she was travelling around the country when I didn't even really...

0:50:010:50:07

I wasn't really keen on the sport, so it was wasting her time and my time.

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So, we just decided to stop.

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That's it, that's the finish of tennis.

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And he looked at me and then he - I was in the kitchen -

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he came across to me and flung his arms round me and gave me a big hug.

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I wasn't that disappointed thinking that was the only thing that I was...

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that's the only sport I was good at,

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cos I know I'm all right at other sports as well.

0:50:330:50:37

Not going to tennis every day has made an enormous difference to me,

0:50:440:50:49

so much so that I look back and think I don't know how I did it sometimes.

0:50:490:50:54

Erm...

0:50:540:50:56

I now would like to have a job. I have been applying for jobs.

0:50:560:51:00

Because I think it's easy to get consumed with housework.

0:51:000:51:06

At least have the option of getting a job. It may not go down particularly well with some people,

0:51:060:51:11

people that think I have plenty to do without getting a job, but I think, erm...

0:51:110:51:17

I think that it would be good for me.

0:51:170:51:21

If I hadn't had children and if I hadn't wanted children,

0:51:270:51:31

I would be a solicitor with an income of my own

0:51:310:51:35

and I would be financially independent.

0:51:350:51:38

It would have changed who I am and how I feel about myself.

0:51:390:51:43

It would have changed how other people see me.

0:51:430:51:47

It would have changed what I had and how I lived

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and it would have changed my relationships with other people.

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And I could have been more of the person I wanted to be

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with that career and that income.

0:52:010:52:03

I did have the offer of a really brilliant training contract

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with an excellent City firm.

0:52:090:52:13

And so I've given up that, and I do...I do regret that.

0:52:130:52:18

I do regret that.

0:52:180:52:20

I do regret that a lot.

0:52:200:52:23

Erm...

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I have made a lot of sacrifices...

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in one way.

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But in some ways, I haven't sacrificed anything.

0:52:320:52:36

Yeah. I think, "Oh, well, I would have liked a job and a career."

0:52:490:52:53

But the truth is, I wouldn't have wanted anything else.

0:52:530:52:57

I... I, erm...

0:53:010:53:03

I wanted the children so much.

0:53:050:53:09

And I was more confident about being a good mother

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than I was confident about being a good solicitor.

0:53:130:53:17

But we'll never know.

0:53:170:53:20

These are the last moments of childhood,

0:53:490:53:53

so a time of reflection for us all.

0:53:530:53:56

Being a dad is as good as it's ever going to get, for me, I think.

0:53:560:54:00

This is the single best thing I'll ever do.

0:54:000:54:04

-..And four, OK?

-OK.

0:54:040:54:07

..If you want.

0:54:070:54:08

We can't all be brilliant at whatever,

0:54:110:54:13

but there's a possibility that they might be,

0:54:130:54:16

so, to me, it just feels incredibly special.

0:54:160:54:20

I personally feel a little bit like the centre of the boys' lives

0:54:260:54:31

has evolved away from me, inevitably.

0:54:310:54:34

I used to do lists of ten brilliant things to do at the weekend

0:54:350:54:39

and they'd tick what they wanted to do and we'd have paper aeroplane competitions

0:54:390:54:43

and Lego model crashing competitions, all this stuff.

0:54:430:54:46

And I love toys and kids and all that kind of stuff, and that doesn't happen now, and I miss that.

0:54:460:54:53

I think I'm getting to the age where you want to be more with your friends

0:54:530:54:58

than with your mum and dad.

0:54:580:55:01

I can go into town by my own.

0:55:040:55:07

They're not as much, like, crowded around me,

0:55:070:55:11

like, "Be careful! Don't trip over."

0:55:110:55:14

I just do what I want, really.

0:55:140:55:17

'Our relationship, it's changing, which it's bound to.'

0:55:220:55:27

But it's me that probably mourns that.

0:55:270:55:31

Parys doesn't at all, I don't think.

0:55:310:55:34

I find myself increasingly emotional these days,

0:55:390:55:44

thinking, "It's not going to be long and they're all going to have grown up and they're going to leave me!"

0:55:440:55:50

And it's lovely, because I think that they'll do very well.

0:55:500:55:54

Oh, yes, it's wonderful being a grandmother. I wouldn't change that.

0:55:540:55:59

It's interesting to see her growing and changing.

0:55:590:56:04

And you just hope that you'll always be part of that.

0:56:070:56:11

'I'm very privileged to have these children, but I've only got them for a short period of time,'

0:56:140:56:18

cos they are going to grow up and leave me, but they're coming back when I'm old. I've told them!

0:56:180:56:23

These are the golden moments right now.

0:56:260:56:29

There's a kind of sadness, because I think childhood is about loss.

0:56:290:56:33

It's about the loss of those moments because things are changing so much.

0:56:330:56:38

They're 12 now. They were one.

0:56:430:56:46

They're never going to be one again, so you're just losing all the time.

0:56:460:56:49

I guess you just hold on to all the kind of wee moments of just magic.

0:56:490:56:55

MUSIC: "When I'm 64" by The Beatles

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We shall continue to record the lives of our children, and one thing is certain -

0:57:240:57:31

the biggest changes and challenges are still to come,

0:57:310:57:35

as they become adults.

0:57:350:57:38

I probably think I'd like to do something with animals, because they're different.

0:57:380:57:43

I'd like to be a photographer.

0:57:430:57:44

I don't know what I'll do. I'll just go with the flow.

0:57:440:57:47

I want to be a baker as famous as Nigella Lawson.

0:57:470:57:50

I don't know at all. It'll...

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It'll come to me one day!

0:57:540:57:57

I want to be successful so I can make my mum and dad proud,

0:57:570:58:02

but I don't know if that'll happen or not.

0:58:020:58:07

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