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'Former Labour leader Neil Kinnock | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
'is on a personal journey to trace his family story in Wales.' | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
I'm looking forward with great anticipation because of the hints | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
that I've been given about stories of my family - | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
on both sides, I guess. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
Even when your life has been churned over in biographies and so on, | 0:00:20 | 0:00:25 | |
you still retain a sense of curiosity | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
about bits that are missing. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
So I'll really enjoy myself if we discover bits that are missing - | 0:00:31 | 0:00:36 | |
good, bad or indifferent. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
'But can anything really prepare him | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
'for what he will discover on this journey, as Neil Kinnock | 0:00:41 | 0:00:46 | |
'is coming home?' | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
'Later on the programme, Neil wrestles with a shocking family truth...' | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
I'd like to take a magic pill | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
to get back and say, | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
"Great-grandmother, what the HELL were you thinking of?" | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
'..meets up with old friends...' | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
Amazing! | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
'..and uncovers a moving family secret.' | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
That I didn't know. I really didn't know that. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
'Born in 1942, the son of a South Wales coal miner, | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
'Neil Kinnock rose to become Labour leader and so very nearly British Prime Minister. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:25 | |
'A man passionate in his beliefs, even when taking on militants in his party.' | 0:01:25 | 0:01:30 | |
A Labour council hiring taxis to scuttle round the city | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
handing out redundancy notices to its own workers. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
'His political convictions have always been rooted in his Welsh family history.' | 0:01:39 | 0:01:45 | |
Why am I | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
the first Kinnock | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
in a thousand generations | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
to be able to get to university? | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
'Today, Neil Kinnock is heading to Tredegar, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
'his home town. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
'He has a special reason for making this journey. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
'He lost both parents 40 years ago this year, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
'and as an only child, he's now become aware | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
'that he's the last of the Kinnocks to come from South Wales.' | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
Recently, and very sadly, my last two surviving aunts... | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
..the last survivors of my parents' generation of relations, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:24 | |
died in March and in April. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
That does mean something in terms of my relationship to the valley communities. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:34 | |
And in November and December this year, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
there'll be the 40th anniversary of my parents' deaths, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
within a couple of days of each other. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
And so...that kind of...memory | 0:02:44 | 0:02:49 | |
and the very recent alteration... | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
..makes me want to take stock. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
'The story begins with Neil's mother, Mary Howells, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
'a district nurse from Aberdare with deep Welsh roots. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
'In 1938, she married into the Kinnock family. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
'Her husband was Gordon Kinnock, a coal miner from Tredegar. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
'The Kinnock clan were originally from Scotland, but moved to Bristol, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
'where Neil's grandfather, Archie Kinnock, was born. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
'Later, Archie would move to Tredegar, South Wales.' | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
I used to go and stay with my grandpa, Archie, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:30 | |
in Vale Terrace in Tredegar, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
so I got lots of stories from him. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
'The manager of Archie's coal mine lived here in some splendour | 0:03:35 | 0:03:40 | |
'at Bedwellty House, now a heritage centre. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
'Neil has come to meet with genealogist Mike Churchill-Jones, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
'who has traced his family back to the 1690s.' | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
Your Kinnock family name is obviously Scottish. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
You come from a long line of shoemakers in Perth in Scotland. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:59 | |
Your second great-grandfather | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
is shown as a shoe and boot maker, employing ten men. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
'The Kinnocks would come south when Neil's great-grandfather, William, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
'brought the family to Bristol. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
'Here, he married Emily Hayman. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
'Emily was Neil's great-grandmother, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
'and later would have a huge role to play | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
'in the fate of the Kinnock family. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
'Between them, Emily and William had a large family.' | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
William Gordon and Emily, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
they had ten children, I believe. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
The important one for us is your grandfather, Archibald James, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
who was born 1882. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
He came down... | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
He moved from Bristol to this part of the country. Any idea why? | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
Because he quarrelled hideously with his father | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
and, literally, ran away. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
He was over 16 by that time. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
Got down to Bristol docks and was looking for a ship. | 0:04:55 | 0:05:00 | |
And the only one under steam... | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
-LAUGHING: -..was the ferry across the Bristol Channel into Cardiff. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:08 | |
He was hoping he'd eventually get to the United States or Canada or wherever. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:14 | |
He ended up in Cardiff | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
and they told him that "There's gold in them there hills!" | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
He got up to Tredegar and starting working in Ty Trist colliery. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
'In fact, Mike Churchill-Jones suspects that this story Neil learnt from his grandfather | 0:05:24 | 0:05:31 | |
'is almost certainly not true. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
'But that's something Neil will learn later on his journey. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
'He will uncover not only the truth about Archie, his grandfather, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
'but also two of Archie's brothers, Harold and Wilfred Kinnock - | 0:05:41 | 0:05:47 | |
'a story that will lead Neil to uncover a hidden family fortune. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:52 | |
'Finally, on his mother Mary's side, the family name was Howells.' | 0:05:52 | 0:05:58 | |
This side was much darker to me, the Howells side, than the Kinnock side, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:04 | |
simply because we never got round to talking about their background. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:09 | |
These were West Walian Howells. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
-Yeah. -That's going to be your next stop. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
You'll find out a lot more about how they lived their life. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
-This is absolutely fascinating. -I'm glad you like it. -Yeah. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
'To discover the story of his Howells family, Neil travels to Kidwelly, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:28 | |
'where there's a surprise. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
'For the first time, Neil is about to see | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
'the tinplate works, where generations of his family laboured. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
'Today, the works is a museum. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
'Researching the Howells family has been social historian Chris Delaney, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
'who takes Neil to see a special place in his family story.' | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
This is the hot mills, where your great-grandfather worked, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
where Thomas Howells worked as a furnace man. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
The work that he did, to supply the hot bars to the rolling mills, | 0:06:55 | 0:07:00 | |
the rolling mills and the rest of the steam engines all survive. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:07 | |
Now, I worked 50 years ago in Ebbw Vale steelworks, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
-in the hot mill, at one stage. -Right. -Rolling. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
How does this differ from what I was doing? | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
This was making tinplate by hand. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
Here, you had a mill crew, which your great-grandfather was part of. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:25 | |
They were the elite. They were the people who set the pace. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
They needed to produce the tinplate from the bar | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
for the rest of this works to make money and for people to take home decent wages. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:37 | |
'The owner of the works was this man, Daniel Chivers. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
'He founded the site in the 1870s. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
'An enlightened employer, he built a model village for the workers, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:51 | |
'believing good working conditions were the key to productivity.' | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
What were living conditions like in that new town? | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
The new-built houses weren't thrown up, they were well constructed. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
Chivers, the Chivers family, was a very paternalistic industrialist. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:08 | |
They helped with the chapels, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
founded a number of institutions, so they would have built good quality housing of the time. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:16 | |
'So why did the Howells family leave for Aberdare in South Wales?' | 0:08:16 | 0:08:21 | |
The problem is the Americans. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
In order to help their own industry, which was young and growing, they brought in tariffs. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:29 | |
Absolutely devastated the Welsh industry. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
So the reason why I think of my family as coming from Aberdare | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
-is American protectionism. -Yes. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
You can blame the McKinley tariffs for your Aberdare connection. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
'Next, Neil is travelling from west Wales | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
'back to Tredegar, where he will learn of a shocking revelation in his tree. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
'Growing up, Neil's grandfather, Archie, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
'with his father, Gordon, and mother, Mary, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
'all instilled in Neil the importance of education.' | 0:08:58 | 0:09:03 | |
So far as my parents and grandparents are concerned, | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
education was the jewel. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
It was the key. It was the avenue. It was the access. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
It was the stairway. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
'Growing up, Neil concluded | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
'that generations of the Kinnocks were denied a good education, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:23 | |
'something that became the bedrock of his political beliefs.' | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
Why am I | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
the first Kinnock | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
in a thousand generations to be able to get to university? | 0:09:31 | 0:09:36 | |
I was acutely aware of the fact that my parents particularly, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
but my family generally, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
had been denied anything like those opportunities, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
despite their manifest intelligence and talents. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
'In fact, Neil is about to learn | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
'that one of his family did receive a privileged education. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:59 | |
'Back at Tredegar's old council chambers, he meets again with genealogist Mike Churchill-Jones. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:06 | |
'What Neil is to learn concerns the Kinnock side of his family. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
'The story begins in Bristol, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
'and the death of Neil's great-grandfather, William Kinnock, in 1892. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
'His widow Emily was left with ten children to bring up, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
'including Archie, Neil's grandfather, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
'and his brothers, Harold and Wilfred. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
'Emily made what must have been a heartbreaking decision, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:31 | |
'to abandon one of her sons, Wilfred, to an orphanage.' | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
Archie's brother, Wilfred, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
at the age of two, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
was put by his mother, Emily, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
into a "waifs and strays" home. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
That I didn't know. I really didn't know that. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
That's... | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
deeply miserable. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
Good God! | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
'Neil's grandfather, Archie, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
'was aged nine when his brother, Wilfred, was taken to the orphanage. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:07 | |
'Archie would also have known what happened to his brother, Harold. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
'Emily sent Harold away, too, but not to the orphanage. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
'Remarkably, she sent HIM | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
'to one of England's oldest and most prestigious public schools. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:25 | |
'Founded in 1553 by Edward, son of Tudor King Henry VIII, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:30 | |
'King Edward's School in Surrey is still a thriving public school. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:35 | |
'This is a story Neil is about to learn for the very first time.' | 0:11:35 | 0:11:41 | |
We find that Harold Bruce Kinnock, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
bearing in mind that your grandfather finds his way to the mines of Tredegar, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:51 | |
Wilfred is in a waifs and strays home, we find Harold | 0:11:51 | 0:11:57 | |
in one of the most exclusive private schools | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
-in England. -Good lord! | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
He started boarding there in 1898 until around 1902. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:10 | |
So he was in Surrey, in a very exclusive boarding school. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
One is in a waifs and strays home | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
-and the other one is in an exclusive public school? -Indeed. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:24 | |
-How would you explain that? -I've no idea. It's impossible to explain. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
When you compare it with the fortunes of the rest of the family. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
By then, Archie was having his quarrels with his father | 0:12:32 | 0:12:37 | |
and was getting ready to run away. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
'But is this story really true? | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
'Did Neil's grandfather run away from home to escape his bullying father, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:49 | |
'William Kinnock? | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
'In fact, it appears William Kinnock had died | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
'many years before Archie made his trip to Wales.' | 0:12:54 | 0:12:59 | |
He's died in 1892, so it's nine years later that Archie finds his way to Tredegar. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:06 | |
So... | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
can we really say that it's because he fell out with his father? | 0:13:08 | 0:13:13 | |
That was the story in the family. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
Looking at that, I would say that the crux of the problems that led Archie to Tredegar, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:23 | |
the fact that Wilfred finds himself in what is effectively an orphanage. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:29 | |
-Yes. -It's something to do with favouritism by the mother. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:34 | |
-Yes. -Her favourite son is Harold. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
Yeah. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
On the back of having such a good education, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
he found himself as a civil servant. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
Good lord! So he would have been a civil servant | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
-in the years before the First World War? -Indeed. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
Amazing. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
But what this proves is that you weren't the first Kinnock | 0:13:54 | 0:13:59 | |
to have a good education behind you. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
Well, going to THIS school | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
doesn't NATURALLY convey the fact that it's a good education. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:12 | |
'Of her ten children, it's hard to imagine | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
'why Emily chose such different paths for two of her sons, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
'decisions that had far-reaching consequences | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
'for both Harold and Wilfred. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
'But how much of a surprise has this been for Neil?' | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
I really didn't know that one of my grandfather's brothers | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
lived in an orphanage for many years. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
And that the other one | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
went to a public school. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
There are lots of extraordinary things about this... | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
segment of history, that are a revelation. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
'These stories have challenged some of Neil's most cherished beliefs, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:58 | |
'and go to the heart of his political and family life. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
'He would dearly love to be able to speak to his grandfather, Archie, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:07 | |
'and ask him why he didn't share these important stories with him. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
'But Archie died when Neil was a teenager, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
'and Neil lost his father, Gordon, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
'and mother, Mary, whilst still in his 20s. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
'His mother passed away within a few days of her husband. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:26 | |
'Neil believes she died of a broken heart.' | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
At the end of November this year | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
will be the 40th anniversary of my parents' deaths, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:37 | |
within a few days of each other. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
Which, of course, was utterly shattering. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
'Neil knows that as an only child, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
'he is the last of the Kinnocks to come from Tredegar. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
'Even his family home, the prefab house where he grew up, has been demolished. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:56 | |
'He's aware that his links with his beloved home town are ebbing away. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
'But even 40 years on, in a strong community like Tredegar, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
'Neil is never far from people who remember his parents fondly - | 0:16:05 | 0:16:10 | |
'including retired milkman Trevor Jones, known as Trevor the Milk. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
'He has a surprise - a surviving photograph of Neil's family home.' | 0:16:14 | 0:16:19 | |
That's the prefabs. Amazing! | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
Our house, number one. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
Morgans, number four here. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
Davis, number three. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
-Great days! -I remember your mother visiting patients up there. -Indeed. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:35 | |
-Cromwell Roberts lived over here. -Cromwell Roberts! Ambulance driver! -That's right. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:41 | |
-It's great to see you. -Oh, yes. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
'Neil is back on the trail of his grandfather Archie's story. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
'For this, he must travel to Bristol, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
'to the town where Archie grew up. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
'In Bristol, Neil is here to learn of his grandfather Archie's parents, | 0:16:55 | 0:17:01 | |
'both Emily and William Kinnock. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
'William Kinnock was a military man and later an accountant. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
'Despite his outward respectability, in 1892, amazingly, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:15 | |
'he died here, in this workhouse in the Stapleton area of Bristol, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:21 | |
'a place reserved for the very poorest in society. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
'The workhouse still stands today. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
'It's always been Neil's belief his great-grandfather died of drink. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:35 | |
'But what has historian Peter Higginbotham managed to unearth?' | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
We've got a death certificate here | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
of your great-grandfather, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
William Gordon Kinnock, 1892. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
He died in the Bristol city workhouse, Stapleton. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:54 | |
Now, the cause of death | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
was ulcerated legs, weak heart, exhaustion. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:02 | |
Drink. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
-You think that was the reason? -It was booze. Yeah. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
-The other thing we know about him, he wasn't penniless. -Oh. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
He had 130 quid to his name after he died. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:17 | |
-£30,000 in today's prices. -Right. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
You couldn't just come into a workhouse. There was a means test. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:25 | |
The best explanation is | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
that William wanted a bit of free medical treatment. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
He almost certainly had the interview with the officer, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
-but didn't really... -Disclose. -..come clean about what he had tucked away. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:42 | |
'So Neil's great-grandfather, William Kinnock, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
'was prepared to live out his days in the workhouse, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
'a place of last resort for the very poor, even though he had money | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
'and could have avoided this miserable end.' | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
Really, he could afford a private doctor, | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
but decided he'd have some cut-price medical care. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
I can't say I'm proud of THAT particular antecedent. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
'After William died, his widow Emily appears to have continued to hide | 0:19:10 | 0:19:15 | |
'the family wealth, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
'throwing herself on the mercy of charity to send Archie to poor school and Wilfred to the orphanage. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:24 | |
'But with ten children to support, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
'it was only Harold who she chose to send to public school.' | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
The way she dealt with at least one of her children was bizarre, | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
sending him to an orphanage when he wasn't an orphan. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:39 | |
Another one, she got into public school somehow. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
All of that was occurring and at the same time, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:48 | |
um...if there's any... | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
Well, it wouldn't amount to insanity. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
..any bizarreness, any weirdness | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
in the family, I suppose that's the strain. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
-I'm very glad it's died out. -HE CHUCKLES | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
'Could it be that this story of family injustice | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
'is why Archie passed on the importance of education | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
'to his young grandson, Neil Kinnock, something that would guide | 0:20:14 | 0:20:19 | |
'the rest of his political life? | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
'Now, Neil is travelling back to Wales, | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
'where he will learn the final chapter in his story, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
'and the effects of World War I on the Kinnock family. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
'His grandfather, Archie, as a coal miner, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
'was in a reserved occupation. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
'His brother, Harold, was a civil servant in London. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
'And Wilfred? What had become of him? | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
'By now, he'd become a professional soldier | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
'in one of Wales's most famous regiments. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
'To learn of Wilfred's story, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
'Neil is travelling across the Brecon Beacons. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
'He's come to the heart of Brecon town, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
'to the museum of the South Wales Borderers. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
'Neil will shortly learn that he's here | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
'because this is the regiment Wilfred Kinnock joined before the First World War. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
'But was it the promise of comradeship that drew Wilfred, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:25 | |
'the boy from the orphanage, to join up? | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
'Neil's here to follow the story | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
'of his grandfather Archie's brother, Wilfred Kinnock. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
'Wilfred joined the South Wales Borderers | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
'four years before the outbreak of World War I. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
'Although Neil doesn't yet know it, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
'this portrait is of Wilfred's commanding officer. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
'Neil joins Mike Churchill-Jones.' | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
Wilfred joined the South Wales Borderers in 1910. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:56 | |
-So he was a regular soldier. -Yeah. -Joined the 1st Battalion. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
He never rose above the rank of private. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
He fought in some of the bloodiest battles of the war. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
Um... | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
During one of those battles, the Battle of the Somme in July 1916, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:14 | |
he fought in a battle at Memetz Wood. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
-Memetz Wood, obviously, was a very bloody battle. -Yes. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:22 | |
Across three battalions, 400 South Wales Borderers lost their lives. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
Great casualties in the Welsh regiments. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
'The odds were stacked firmly against Wilfred, but...' | 0:22:30 | 0:22:35 | |
Miraculously, he survived that battle. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
-So maybe his luck was finally changing. -Mm. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
'In fact, Archie, Harold AND Wilfred Kinnock all lived through the war | 0:22:44 | 0:22:49 | |
'to the final call for peace by the Germans in October 1918.' | 0:22:49 | 0:22:54 | |
We've got Emily, who's probably... | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
-She's overjoyed. -Yes. -Her sons have survived the war. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:02 | |
'The front page of the Western Mail proclaimed the good news. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
'This headline was dated Monday October 7 1918. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
'The following day, October 8, the regimental diary also recorded...' | 0:23:13 | 0:23:18 | |
"Kinnock Wilfred Hayman. Nationality, United Kingdom. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
"Rank, private. Regiment, South Wales Borderers. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
"Aged 27. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
"Date of death, 8th October 1918." | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
-The day the war ended, or shortly afterwards. -That was... | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
The Armistice, as you know, was on 11th November. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
'Although Wilfred was killed on October 8th, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
'Emily would have known nothing of this tragedy until notified later | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
'by a letter from his commanding officer. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:07 | |
'In the midst of national celebration of peace, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
'Emily would receive news that Wilfred, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
'the child she had given up to the orphanage, had died | 0:24:14 | 0:24:20 | |
'in the very last days of the war.' | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
-That's the Victory medal, isn't it? -The Military medal... | 0:24:22 | 0:24:27 | |
'Emily would receive Wilfred's medals posthumously, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
'along with a memorial plaque, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
'one of over a million issued to the families of the fallen.' | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
Well... | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
-Did you know about Wilfred? -No. I didn't know about Wilfred. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
-He didn't have a very lucky life, did he? -He didn't. -No. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
Especially to be robbed of it | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
when the war was effectively over. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
-Do you think Archie would have known? -Archie would have known about it. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:59 | |
I just feel sorry for Wilfred. His father dies when he's two. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:05 | |
He's in an orphanage from the age of four | 0:25:05 | 0:25:10 | |
till at least 14. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
And... | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
then he joins the army. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
He served under the colours for four years, five years, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:25 | |
from the age of 22, 23, and then he died. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
'With ten children to bring up, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
'Emily chose to place Wilfred in an orphanage, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
'but she would never have forgotten him. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
'He alone had been christened with her family name, Hayman.' | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
He's the only child with the mother's name. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
She effectively abandons him when he's four years of age. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
This is why, in this whole experience, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
I'd like to take a magic pill | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
to get back and say, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
"Great-grandmother, what the HELL were you thinking of? | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
"Why did you have to do it?" | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
'Neil was so close to his grandfather, Archie, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
'but there's so much in the family story that he didn't share with him. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:19 | |
'Maybe he was protecting him from his past. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
'Now, nearly at the end of his journey, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
'how much has this changed what Neil knew of his family story?' | 0:26:25 | 0:26:30 | |
All the messages given to me by my grandfather, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
to whom I was very close, knew very well and loved very much, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:39 | |
were that he detested, despised his father. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
So much so that the impression that I gathered | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
and have carried in all the decades since, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
51 years, | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
have been that my grandfather ran away from a bullying father. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:59 | |
But he was only nine when his father died. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
And so, that is an invention, | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
unconscious invention, of my imagination. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
'Neil has learnt revealing stories of distant ancestors | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
'and close family, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
'and the events that brought the Kinnocks to Wales. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
'Now, with his journey over, how does Neil feel about coming home?' | 0:27:22 | 0:27:28 | |
I've been very fortunate, privileged, indeed, | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
to have my story told, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
but never with the fullness that's been available | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
as a consequence of Coming Home. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
My children and grandchildren will thoroughly enjoy it. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
My preoccupation has always been with the future. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
Now we can feel | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
bitter, angry about some of the past. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:55 | |
But it's tomorrow that matters. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
And part of my children and grandchildren's tomorrow | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
is where they came from. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
So they already want to know and see, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:11 | |
and they do and they will. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
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