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Actor Trevor Eve is on a journey to Wales and his family's past.

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A journey he's always longed to take.

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Trevor rose to fame in 1979

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as the Bristol-based private detective, Eddie Shoestring.

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Most recently, he's recognisable as Detective Supt Peter Boyd

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in the long-running BBC drama, Waking the Dead.

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Although thought of as English,

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Trevor's roots run deeply into Wales.

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My mother, who is Welsh, my father wasn't Welsh, I grew up in Birmingham

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but I spent a lot of time here in South Wales for various reasons

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that may or may not become apparent during the course of the day.

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Trevor is travelling to the Mumbles, near Swansea,

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where he spent many happy childhood holidays.

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My name, the original spelling of my name was T-R-E-F-O-R.

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That was, of course, the Welsh spelling.

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Trevor's father was English but his mother was Welsh,

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and it's her roots he's here to explore.

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My grandpa, Charlie, I remember, who was a miner.

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And I remember the days of the tin bath in front of the fire,

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which, now, just a couple of generations later, sounds so remote.

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But... Yeah, I remember that.

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Here in the Mumbles, Trevor Eve is finally coming home.

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Later in the programme, Trevor discovers a war hero in the family.

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Wow! That's something, isn't it?

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Reveals his musical side.

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And discovers an uncomfortable truth about his past.

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I feel sad, sad and excluded, you know.

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Trevor is on his way to All Saints Church near Swansea,

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in the heart of the Mumbles.

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Now he's finally here, he's more than a little nervous

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about what genealogist Mike Churchill Jones may have uncovered.

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Hi, Trevor, welcome to All Saints Church in Oystermouth.

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We've been researching your family tree.

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-Good.

-And...here we have it.

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Well, I can see that already, in a frame on the wall, that's good!

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-My God.

-Right at the bottom is your good self.

-OK.

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Right.

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Trevor's ancestors are all Welsh on his mother's side,

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beginning with Francis Woosnam,

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his five times great-grandfather from Montgomeryshire.

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Woosnam. We're not going to go golf, are we?

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Surprisingly, golf-mad Trevor is right.

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Francis Woosnam was also the seven times great-grandfather of Welsh golf star, Ian Woosnam.

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Making them distant cousins.

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Oh, OK!

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Apart from the Woosnams, Trevor's family in the Mumbles

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were called the Collier family.

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So, if we come back to your second great-grandmother, Susanna Watts Collier.

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-She was born in 1826 in the Mumbles.

-Right here.

-Yes, indeed, right here.

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That's why I've always felt comfortable

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in the Mumbles on my holidays.

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And she was born to an Anne Phillips and a William Collier.

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Right?

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William Collier was a postman.

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Uh-huh.

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William Collier's story will prove to be very important.

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Trevor is also keen to learn more about his grandfather,

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Charles Hamer, from his mother's side of the family.

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Charles William Hamer, he was born, 1882,

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in Merthyr Tydfil, and he died, 1955, in Neath.

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-He worked in the colliery as hewer and a repairer.

-OK.

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Trevor's grandfather, Charlie, married Gwladys.

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Gwladys was Trevor's grandmother.

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Much later in life, she came to live with Trevor

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and his mother in the family home in Birmingham.

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In trying to unravel the story of Gwladys, his grandmother,

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he will uncover a family secret kept hidden from Trevor

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for more than 50 years.

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Trevor's search for his ancestors begins in the heart of the Mumbles.

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Records show that his three times great-grandfather lived here,

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from 1818.

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His name was William Collier, and he married local girl, Anne Phillips.

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Together, they had 11 children.

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In the Mumbles,

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and among the outlying farms dotted along these nearby cliffs,

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as the postman, William would've been a very familiar face.

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To try and help understand what the area was like at that time,

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Trevor meets with Mumbles historian, Carol Powell,

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who has been researching Anne and William's story.

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So, William Collier,

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what would be, what would he have, what would it have been like for him?

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He would have come, in about 1818, to a very small village.

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The entire parish was only about 1,000,

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-so this corner of the parish would only have several hundred.

-He lived...?

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He lived in the Dunns, which is near where the square is now,

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and, by 1841, he was up on the hill, up there.

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We don't know from the census which house it was.

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This is because he had, apparently, 11 children.

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-With Anne Phillips, who was a local girl.

-Yes, yes.

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-He must have liked Anne Phillips, mustn't he?

-Yes, he must have!

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THEY LAUGH

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Carol has a painting to show Trevor,

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believed to be the work of the local Swansea artist, JH Robinson.

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It shows the bay, called Oystermouth Bay,

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as it was in William's time.

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Dominated then, as now, by Oystermouth Castle.

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Where are we standing?

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Just about here or here, one of these.

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I think that's amazing. As William Collier would have known it.

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That's what he would've seen. The main industries at that time would have been oyster dredging,

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quarrying, farming, because all this was surrounded by farms.

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Oystermouth didn't get its name by chance.

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Robinson's painting clearly shows the oyster fishermen at work.

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By about 1860-odd, there would have been 600 people

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working in oyster dredging around here. That's a lot of people.

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-So, they got oysters here and supplied the rest of the country?

-Yes.

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This traditional way of life lasted for centuries in Oystermouth.

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But, over the bay, Swansea's rapid industrialisation

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and pollution from copper smelting, destroyed the oyster beds for ever.

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Later, tourism became the mainstay of the town.

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This became quite a sophisticated resort.

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Yes, tourism was on the rise.

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-Yeah, and today, it's spectacular.

-Yeah, its wonderful.

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Beautiful, absolutely beautiful.

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It's easy to imagine why Trevor's three-times great-grandfather,

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William Collier, came to live here, in this beautiful part of the world.

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But Trevor will shortly learn that William was more

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than simply the local Mumbles postman.

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I get the feeling that, on this day of surprises,

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I'm going to find out more about William Collier,

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and I will be extremely interested to do so.

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Trevor is heading back to All Saints Church, to learn

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of William Collier's life before he came to settle in the Mumbles.

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He was the postman in the village of Mumbles.

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Right.

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But he also did other things. He was also the schoolmaster.

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-Yeah.

-Which was...

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Which can be echoed here,

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on the baptism of your two times great-grandmother,

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Susanna, Susanna Watts Collier, in 1826.

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Tells us that her parents were William and Anne,

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and he was a schoolmaster.

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This is believed to be the original school house

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where William Collier taught.

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He was therefore clearly a well-educated man.

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Right.

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William had another life before he settled in the Mumbles

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and Trevor is about to find out just how removed it was

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from the tranquillity of this seaside town.

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Unfortunately, we haven't got a photograph of William.

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He died in 1870.

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But what we can show you is what he looked like in 1814.

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William Collier. Wow.

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He was in the Prince of Wales Hussars.

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What happened to him?

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He was in all this finery and then he became a postman.

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I've got an extract of his obituary here from the Cambrian News

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which I'd like you to read from the top.

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"Cambrian News, 15th July. 1870.

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"A Mr William Collier died in his 77th year of his age.

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"For many years, he was a schoolmaster of the Swansea union

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"but retired some years ago on superannuation.

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"He served with the 10th Hussars,

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"a crack regiment over the Prince Regent.

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"He was one of the few remaining of those who took part in the Battle of Waterloo."

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What are your thoughts?

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Wow.

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That's something, isn't it? That's...that IS something.

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"The few remaining of those who took part in the Battle of Waterloo."

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My God.

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So you've learnt he was a distinguished man in Mumbles.

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But it's far removed from the elite military man.

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That's a strange move, isn't it? He's a sort of...

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..a war, if not hero, honoured in battle, and then he...

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I would suspect he wanted to be a prominent member

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of a growing community and that's what he became.

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Right. So he came here and sort of ran everything,

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so, in those days, if you were delivering the post and teaching at the school...

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-There was no post office here then. But he was the postman.

-Right.

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-He probably did it on horseback with his thing.

-Indeed, indeed.

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-Well, that's...

-Highly regarded.

-That's something, that IS something.

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That's...that's fascinating and...

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..a proud moment, that, isn't it?

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In 1815, French emperor Napoleon made his last stand

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against the Duke of Wellington at Waterloo.

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As a cavalry soldier in the 10th Hussars,

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William Collier was in the heart of this famous battle.

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But why was Waterloo so celebrated in history?

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To find out more, Trevor joins expert Professor Chris Williams from Swansea University.

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The Battle of Waterloo takes place in June 1815

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and it's the culmination of what were called Napoleon's Hundred Days.

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Were they heroes after the Battle of Waterloo, that particular regiment?

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Anybody that served at Waterloo was regarded as a hero.

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It was the first battle in British history for which all ranks,

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that is, not just the officers but the private soldiers as well,

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were given a campaign medal and to be a Waterloo veteran

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-was something that would have been...

-So, I can be proud?

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I think you can be proud.

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I think people would have been very impressed to have this man in their midst.

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As a cavalry soldier,

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William would have been thrust into head-to-head combat with the enemy.

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After the defeat of Napoleon,

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William Collier returned a hero

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and back in the Mumbles

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was appointed Ward of Oystermouth Castle,

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a position of great authority and responsibility.

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He became a prominent member of this society.

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He was the postman, he had the responsibility of everything.

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-Absolutely.

-And the schoolteacher and... Wow.

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-He had quite a position of authority in the community.

-Yeah, yeah.

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That's a very imposing man. That's fascinating.

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Trevor has clearly enjoyed learning of this story.

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I'm genuinely thrilled and now, of course,

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I will become an obsessive researcher of the battle of the Waterloo.

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I expected some sort of creative,

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maybe an artist or a musician or something, you know...

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..who destroyed themselves through excess of some substance,

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but...something tragic like that, but not a military hero.

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You know, the battle of Waterloo, that's quite something.

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Trevor has enjoyed his time here in the Mumbles,

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but very soon he must leave this area

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and move on to the next revelation in his family story.

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He came to the Mumbles on many family holidays as a young boy.

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So this spot has always had a very special place in his heart.

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But now he's anxious to follow the story of his grandparents,

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from his mother's side of the family tree -

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his much-loved grandmother, Gwladys

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and his grandfather, Charlie,

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a coal miner from Merthyr Tydfil.

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So does Trevor know how his grandfather

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came here to Swansea

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from his home in Merthyr, some 40 miles away?

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I don't know how he ended up in Swansea,

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I don't know whether it's because he...

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No, I don't suppose he'd have met my grandmother Gwladys...

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and followed her.

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No, I don't know.

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I would like to know about... Grandpa Charlie, yeah.

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In fact, Trevor is passing Swansea Prison

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where his grandfather was sent, in 1911.

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It's a story as yet,

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Trevor knows nothing about.

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To learn of this episode,

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Trevor is heading for the Rhondda Heritage Centre, near Pontypridd.

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His grandfather was a hewer in the South Wales mines.

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As a young man, he lost his father,

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which seems to have had a direct affect on the next part of his life,

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as Mike Churchill-Jones has discovered.

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Your great-grandfather, he died a premature death at the age of 45.

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Right.

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And...your grandfather was 16 when this occurred.

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-Mm-hm.

-The mother decided to marry again, some eight months later.

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She didn't hang around then.

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-She didn't hang around...

-OK.

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-..created a bit of upheaval in your grandfather's life.

-Uh-huh.

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He basically...he descended into drink, as far as I can tell

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and it caused him to get in trouble with the authorities.

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Mm-hm.

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This is an extract from the assizes in 1910,

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which just outlines three offences.

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Drunk and disorderly...

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-Uh-huh.

-..and he was selling liquor without a licence...

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-Uh-huh.

-..and then finally...

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-Oh.

-..he assaulted someone,

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and he was on bail at the time.

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So, he went to prison?

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We find him in 1911...

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-Ah, yes.

-..in the prison in Swansea.

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So this is my grandfather's...?

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No, this is your grandfather.

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This is Charles William Hamer, born 1882 in Troedyrhiw, in Merthyr.

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Oh, this is my grandfather?

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If you turn the page, you'll actually find him.

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I'm with it, just takes a bit of time for these stories to sink in.

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So, his father died at 45.

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-Yes.

-..and then his mother remarried, he got upset by it,

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turned to drink and started - by all accounts -

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beating people up in the local community.

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He did, by the looks of it.

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He was a tough man.

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He was a tough man and he was known as a boxer and a fighter, wasn't he?

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-He was sentenced to 12 months hard labour.

-Oh, my God!

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As if he wasn't going to do enough hard labour in his life anyway.

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But I think that's turned his life around.

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As far as I know, his life was much better from there on.

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Well, good for him, good for him.

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Trevor was aged just four when his grandfather Charlie died.

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Now, he wants to follow the story of Gwladys, his grandmother

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who came from Glynneath.

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Whilst in Wales, Trevor is staying in Swansea,

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but for the next part of his journey

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he's setting off to nearby Glynneath.

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Well, I think it's easier for me to make contact with Glynneath

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because that's a place where I... I stayed as a child

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and my memories are there and my mother...

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..although I grew up with her in Birmingham,

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she maintained and kept her Welshness absolutely sacrosanct.

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So...this has a much more direct emotional connection

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than William Collier,

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my great-great-great-grandfather in the battle of Waterloo,

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which is wonderful, but that's more of a sort of...

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..an objective appreciation than an emotional connection.

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Trevor's mother, Elsie, was keen for him to know of his Welsh roots

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and as a young boy he even learnt to sing in Welsh.

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I have a...powerful baritone,

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and I think that...

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..I think that...

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..probably in ancient times...

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..my ancestors had that echoing around the valleys,

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yeah, I sense that.

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In fact, his singing voice will later be put to the test

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as waiting to surprise him is the Glynneath Male Voice Choir.

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CHOIR SINGS IN WELSH

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But how much Welsh does Trevor really understand?

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The Welsh speaking used to happen on the phone.

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You'd hear, "Oh, no. Oh! No!"

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And then the next lot would be Welsh,

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cos that's where the secrets were always -

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that's why I sort of associate the Welsh language with secrets.

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Trevor is about to learn of one of those secrets.

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He's finally arriving in Glynneath

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and the small village of Pontneddfechan,

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the place that has been home to generations of his family.

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It's here that his mother Elsie lived

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and where his grandmother Gwladys ran the local pub.

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Being here in this village is very important to Trevor.

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Still nestling on the banks of the Nedd Fechan river,

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in the heart of the village,

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is the White Horse Inn,

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the home of his mother and grandmother to whom he was so close.

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Here, he will learn of a secret involving his grandparents

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that his family never shared with him.

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Growing up, Trevor always knew that his grandparents had two children.

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His mum, Elsie and his much-loved Uncle Jack.

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-They had two children.

-Yes.

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They had your mother, who was born in 1915.

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-That's right.

-And Jack was born in 1920.

-Yeah.

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-But there were other children born to them.

-Ah.

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In between...

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..there was a child, called Alban Charles Hamer...

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born in 1918.

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And that's his death certificate.

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-So, he died when he was...?

-Five months.

-Five months.

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That's interesting because there's always been talk of an Alban.

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-Has there?

-Yeah, but...

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..not that he died as a child.

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He was five months old.

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And there was another child...

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born in 1925, called Maud,

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who only lived...

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One hour!

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Premature birth.

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Two children you never knew anything about.

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No, I never knew anything about them.

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Your aunt and uncle.

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Well...

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I've learnt about that in front of

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however many hundreds of thousands of viewers there are.

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That's kind of...

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Hmm.

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It's funny how people never tell you these things, isn't it?

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Poor people. That's a tragedy, isn't it?

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Well!

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That's something.

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That's something.

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So, my mother was...ten.

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It's interesting because I don't know if this goes anyway to explaining my mother's...

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..departure from this part of the world when she was 16.

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I don't know that that does, but it's interesting,

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cos no-one ever really knew and she never talked about

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why she left this part of the world when she was...

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..16, which is 1931, which was quite something to do, in those days.

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Well.

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Yeah.

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I wonder if my auntie knows of these...

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..and my brother doesn't, my...

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How extraordinary.

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Clearly not having his mother or grandmother

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to share this story with him has deeply affected Trevor.

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Learning for the first time of an auntie and uncle

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he knew nothing about.

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I just feel...

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I feel excluded, really. You feel sad.

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Sad and excluded.

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God, 1918, 1925, here.

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The isolation and the fact that they lived with that pain and...

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..there was no-one to counsel them or get them through it, you know?

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I think those things are important to pass on.

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Cos experience helps people live... with their present.

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Extraordinary.

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HE SNIFFS

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Back at the White Horse Pub, the Glynneath Male Voice Choir

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are busy rehearsing a homecoming performance for Trevor.

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Trevor did have a much-loved uncle in Wales

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who made it into adulthood - his uncle Jack.

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Sadly, Jack died a few years ago

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but his widow, Glenys

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still lives nearby, with first cousin, Nigel.

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I don't know whether you know about Elsie's...

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there was Uncle Jack...

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and there were two other children.

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Oh, yes.

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I knew you would.

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Well, I don't, but I remember your...

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..one of them died...

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..in the flu epidemic.

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There was Alban...

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-That's right.

-We knew about him.

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..who was five-months-old and he died of pneumonia...

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-That's right.

-..in 1918.

-Hmm.

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No-one ever told me this, though.

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And there was Maud, who was...

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born in 1925, lived for one hour.

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A premature birth.

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-Yes.

-Well, our grandmother was Gwladys Maud.

-Yeah.

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Yes.

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But I do remember her talking about this when the epidemic...

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So, you knew about that? I told you my auntie Glenys would know.

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She knows everything.

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Em...now, what else was there?

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Well, you can see that I'm...

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..strongly Welsh. HE LAUGHS

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-We always thought you were, Trev.

-It's amazing, I think.

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There's one final treat in store at the White Horse Inn,

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Trevor's family pub...

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a performance from the Glynneath Male Voice Choir.

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Hello.

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-ALL:

-Hello.

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Joined by his auntie Glenys and cousin Nigel,

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Trevor is about to learn

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that he's not just here to listen.

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They tell me you've got a fine, baritone voice.

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-Would you like to join the choir for Calon Lan?

-Of course?

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THE CHOIR LAUGHS I don't know...

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I don't know the words.

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What are we going to sing then, lads?

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-CHOIR:

-Calon Lan.

-Oh, God!

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# Nid wy'n gofyn bywyd moethus

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# Aur y byd na'i berlau man

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# Gofyn wyf am galon hapus

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# Calon onest, calon lan... #

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'I feel...defined,'

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sort of character and personality-wise,

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by a Welsh temperament.

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I recognise myself through my mother

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in terms of emotional expression.

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# Calon lan yn llawn daioni

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# Tecach yw na'r lili dlos... #

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It is important to pass it on to my children

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and I think they're very aware of their heritage.

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# Canu'r dydd a chanu'r nos. #

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CHOIR APPLAUDS

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I must say, I was really honoured to be asked

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to have my Welsh connections recognised

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by somebody other than myself

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cos I've obviously always been... totally aware of them.

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So I've felt very flattered by that and...

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Yeah, it feels that I've made a kind of public display

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about my Welshness,

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and that I'm proud of.

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