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This is one of the world's most dangerous borders, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
dividing two nations - India and Pakistan. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
2,000 miles long, it slices through extraordinary landscapes | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
and divides millions of people who once lived alongside each other. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
I'm Babita Sharma, and I'm a journalist. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
My family, as Hindus, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
were forced to move into what became independent India. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
Primarily, I identify with being British. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
That's who I am, I was born and brought up in Britain. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
But I'm also really passionate about my culture as an Indian person. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
I'm going to be travelling the border from the Indian side. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
Wow! It's mind-blowing! | 0:00:44 | 0:00:45 | |
I'm Adnan Sarwar. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
I was in the British Army and now work for The Economist. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
My Muslim parents were born in what is now Pakistan. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
I've got to know what it means to be a Pakistani | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
and what it means to these people here living as Pakistanis, and | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
what it means to my mum and dad to be Pakistanis. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
I'm going to be travelling the length of the border | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
on the Pakistani side, a country that's just 70 years old. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:11 | |
Have you ever seen water like this? Look at the colour of it. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
When Britain gave India its independence, it split | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
the nation along religious lines, carving out a new Muslim state. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:22 | |
EXPLOSIONS Since then, there has been frequent conflict along this border, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
that, to this day, very few can cross. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
You can't know Pakistan unless you know partition. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
GUNSHOTS RING OUT They're just saying we want independence. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
"Go, India, go Pakistan. We just want to be free." | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
Yet, after two generations apart, these two countries, with such strong ties to Britain, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:45 | |
still have so much in common and so much to celebrate. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
-DRUMS PLAY -It's fantastic. We're going to have a great night here tonight. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
My gosh, I've just found a whole new family I didn't even know existed. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
We are making two journeys with the same goal - | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
to discover how a line on the map has altered | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
the destinies of two countries that used to be one. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
For the last three weeks, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:24 | |
Babita and I have been travelling on either side of the border | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
that divides India and Pakistan, from South to North. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
I am just on the outskirts of Islamabad, here. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
And I want to get up to Gilgit, which is here. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
We've both clocked up about 800 miles | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
and we're now beginning the final leg of our journeys. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
I plan to explore Pakistan's remote North, heading to the | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
city of Gilgit, passing through the Hunza Valley and ending | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
my journey in Thalay, just 25 miles from the disputed border with India | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
where troops face each other in a bitter stand-off. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
The two countries have fought four wars since partition - | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
in 1947, '65, '71 and '99. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
Getting to film with the Pakistani military is not easy, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
but weeks of trying have finally paid off. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
This is very exciting. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:26 | |
Today we've managed to get ourselves onto a Pakistani Air Force base, | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
so we have got access to Pakistani pilots. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
Pakistan's air force plays a key role in protecting the nation. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
It's a modern military with a threat, you know, | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
the next-door neighbour it's always having arguments with, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:46 | |
it's had wars with. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:47 | |
The Armed Forces are close to my heart. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
I spent eight years in the British Army as a Royal engineer | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
and did two tours of Iraq. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
I feel at home here, because it's military. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
And I just recognise all the, you know, the barracks | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
and the parade squares and things, like that, it's really cool. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
Pakistan's defence budget is over £6 billion. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
That's a pretty sobering figure. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
10 times more than the government spend on education. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
The country is making huge arms deals with its neighbour, China, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
to buy fighter jets and submarines. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
And with over 600,000 military personnel, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
their Armed Forces are growing. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
..starting to ease up on the horizon. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
196 knots, starting to ease up on the horizon. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
-Pitch and roll, pitch and roll... -I'm meeting some new recruits | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
and I'm surprised to see 22-year-old Rabia. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
She's one of four women on a cadet course, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
training to be a fighter pilot. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
I was just listening to you doing that. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
I think you're the kind of person I'd probably be | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
copying my homework off. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
What's your background, how did you get into the air force? | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
I personally do think that in modern times like this, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
women should share the responsibilities of their male | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
brothers in defending their motherland. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
I get the feeling that was a bit of a rehearsed PR line. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
I may need to break out a bit of northern charm to get Rabia to open up. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
We do our simulator based training here. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
I'm going to take this scarf off in case it flies off. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
There we go, we have taken off. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:22 | |
This is really cool. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:26 | |
It is cool, but I think it is a big responsibility on our shoulders, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
handling this aircraft. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
-Yes. -It is worth a lot of money. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
See, once we are flying, we are responsible for everyone down there. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
What if this jet crashes? | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
So I am responsible for myself, I am responsible for this asset | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
of my nation, and I am responsible for the lives that are down there. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
I find attitudes towards women in Pakistan confusing. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
On the one hand there are women like Rabia, | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
but it's still a deeply conservative society, where most are | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
expected to follow the traditional roles of marriage and motherhood. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
You're a female pilot in Pakistan, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
which would surprise some people, which is unfortunate, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
but it would surprise some people. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
What do your parents think about your chosen career? | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
My father, he takes immense pride in this, that I am his daughter | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
and I'm in the air force. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
My father is the one who encouraged me to choose this career as a girl. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
The Armed Forces and Pakistan are notoriously elitist, but unlike | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
most new recruits, Rabia's family have no military connections. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
With the support of her father, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:35 | |
she's been able to follow her childhood dream. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
Even if you do end up becoming a commercial pilot, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
we should go and get a flight together. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
-Cos they're not letting me get in this thing. -No, I would never choose to be a commercial pilot. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
Never a commercial pilot, always in the military. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
OK, so you're quite proud of your country? | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
Yes, I'm quite proud of my country | 0:06:51 | 0:06:52 | |
and I'm quite proud of wearing this uniform. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
With relations as they are, a fifth war with their neighbours | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
India isn't regarded as impossible around here. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
-Do you ever imagine going to war? -Imagine going to war? | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
Inshallah, if Allah gives me a chance that there will be a war, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
then I'll, inshallah, play my role in that. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
Who would Pakistan be fighting? | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
Anyone who are going to go against us. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
We're going to fight them back with all that we have. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
Rabia straps in for a test fight. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
I'd love to jump in, but there's no room for passengers. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
When I was in the British Army, I fought in Iraq, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
thousands of miles away from home in Burnley. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
If Rabia goes to war, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:45 | |
there's a good chance she'll be fighting much closer to home. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
I hope trailblazers like Rabia are changing | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
the perception of what it means to be a woman in Pakistan. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
But more than that, I hope her skills are never called upon. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
She doesn't think she's cool! She's bloody cool. She's cool. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
See, it's the image of the Pakistani woman, the meek Pakistani woman, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
hiding away in the kitchen with a burqa on and stuff. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
Try telling Rabia that, you know, she'll fly a jet at ya! | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
I'm 300 miles from where Adnan is across the border in India | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
and here they're just as battle ready. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
700,000 soldiers patrol this area, it's a militarised zone. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:08 | |
One of the most militarised zones on the planet! | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
But you'd never guess it from these views. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
With snow-capped mountains, green valleys and natural lakes, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
I can't wait to get going. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
The last stage of my journey starts here, in Jammu. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
I plan to head north to Katra, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
following the contested border with Pakistan to Srinagar, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
passing through Kargil, and ending my journey | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
in the Buddhist enclave of Leh - | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
a total of 430 miles. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
My mum came here in 1964 when she was 20. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:48 | |
And she has talked about it so fondly, saying it's | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
one of the most beautiful places that she's ever seen. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
Yet I've grown up hearing about all the problems Kashmir has, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
the violence and the killings and the tensions. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
At partition, Jammu and Kashmir was majority Muslim, but it | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
became part of India, something Pakistan refused to accept. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:13 | |
The two countries have never agreed on an international border here, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
and ownership of the state has been violently disputed to this day. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
Western journalists are not welcome here, so we enter Kashmir without | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
official permission, filming only on mobile phones and stills cameras. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:31 | |
Feeling really nervous about it. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
We just can't risk being caught and stopped. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
'But I think it's a risk worth taking. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
'People's stories need to be heard | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
because this is the sharp end of partition.' | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
Thank you, Babeshji. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
Akeel! | 0:10:47 | 0:10:48 | |
'My guide Akeel has been covering Kashmir's turmoils | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
'since the late '90s.' | 0:10:51 | 0:10:52 | |
And we're going straight into it. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
I've asked Akeel to take me | 0:11:15 | 0:11:16 | |
to Jammu's heavily militarised international border, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
where India and Pakistan regularly exchange fire. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
There is the post in front of us - "Welcome to border security forces. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
"First line of defence," it says. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
Looking like tourists, we step out, filming on our mobile phones. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
I'm only a few hundred metres from a Pakistani military post. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
India-Pakistan. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
I'm just taking a sneaky video before we're kicked out. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
But there it is. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:52 | |
"Proud to be Indian. And proud to be Muslim. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
70 years ago, I could have caught a train straight through | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
here to Sialkot in Pakistan, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
but the line was abandoned after partition | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
and the border closed. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
Smile! | 0:12:06 | 0:12:07 | |
And we're just being watched by a lot of the security forces. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
There is an unreal edge to this place. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
Although foreign media aren't welcome, local tourists are. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
There is even a sweet shop run by Makhan Singh. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
IN HINDI | 0:12:27 | 0:12:28 | |
Oh, you've been born and brought up in this place? | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
What's life like? | 0:12:33 | 0:12:34 | |
-Risky life. -Risky life? -Yes, risky life. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
That's putting it mildly. Makhan has some unusual items on display. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
IN HINDI | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
This is a mortar shell. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:48 | |
POK stands for...? | 0:12:58 | 0:12:59 | |
Oh, wow! It hasn't blasted. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
He's just showing me some pictures of the things that he's seen. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
IN HINDI | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
-So this is from the nearby... -The nearby villages. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
-And this heavy shelling came from Pakistan side? -Pakistan side. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
HE SPEAKS IN HINDI | 0:13:25 | 0:13:26 | |
It's hard to detect the military's strategy behind this. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
It all seems to be pretty indiscriminate. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
Makhan's saying, well, he told us about two villages that have | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
been really affected by the cross-border shelling, so we're | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
going to go and see if we can go and speak to a few people in the village. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
It's a border, an international border. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
And just behind it is Pakistan. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
There is the community hall. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:25 | |
-Oh, you can see bullet marks. -Shell marks, bullet marks. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
You can see it riddled with shrapnel. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
Pieces of shrapnel have gone straight through. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
And it goes on and on. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
-This is... -This is the bunker. -This is the bunker here? -Yeah. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
Akeel tells me the Indian government has built bunkers | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
along the border to help protect residents from Pakistani shelling. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
I'll just ask him... Uncle? | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
HE REPLIES IN HINDI | 0:15:09 | 0:15:10 | |
Thank you. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
'Tit-for-tat skirmishes between India and Pakistan continue to | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
'plague people living on both sides of the border. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
'28 people were killed last year by cross-border shooting and shelling.' | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
So, this is one of the bunkers of the village. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
And it's very well concealed because they don't want it to be | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
targeted by any shelling, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
so you've got all these plants that almost look like | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
it's merging into, into the village landscape here. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
This level of protection is not just for show. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
Uncle can't sit for too long, so he's just going to lie down. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
HE GROANS | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
-He's tired. -He's tired. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
His son's widow is Rajni. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
Tell me what happened. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
In, in the back of the head? | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
COUGHING | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
'Families like Geet Singh's, who farm land along the border, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
'have nowhere else to go. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
'And it's ordinary people like them, on both sides of the line, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
'who are paying the price for political tension.' | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
You can just see the hopelessness in their eyes. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
That is the reality of what life is like here on the border | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
between India and Pakistan. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
'The partition line may have been drawn 70 years ago but this | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
'place is a reminder that this conflict is still very much alive.' | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
Just 50 miles from the border, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
the fear the Indians feel is also shared here in Pakistan. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:28 | |
But where I am, at 4,000 feet high up in the mountains, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
the fear comes from an internal threat - | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
the Pakistani Taliban operate here. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
Assalaamu Alaikum. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
THEY SPEAK IN URDU | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
We've been stopped about six, seven times now by security and police. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:56 | |
At every scooter check point we've got to, they've said, you know, "Are you foreigners? | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
"We need to put somebody in the vehicle with you or send a vehicle with you." | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
With some of the highest mountains in the world, this area once | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
had a thriving tourist trade. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
But four years ago, a group of Islamist extremists stormed | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
a mountain camp and shot dead 10 foreign climbers | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
and their Pakistani guide.' | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
THEY SPEAK IN URDU | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
We've got a guy in the back who won't be filmed, he's got an AK-47. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
He's going to take us to the next checkpoint | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
and then be delivered back and then we might get another one. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
They want to get us foreigners from A to B as safely as possible. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:45 | |
Erm, yeah, Pakistan's had, you know, its own headlines, hasn't it? | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
And it doesn't want any more, it doesn't need that. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
Since I've been here, there's been 14 terrorist attacks | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
across the country, and it's clear security forces really do | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
have a battle on their hands. | 0:19:58 | 0:19:59 | |
One that's cost thousands of lives and billions of pounds to fight. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
I've got another three hours of driving. It's a long road ahead. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
On the Indian side of the border, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:23 | |
I'll be leaving the treacherous mountain roads to Adnan. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
I'm leaving Jammu. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
Yes. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
We've ditched the crew vehicle and bought tickets on a local train. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
This is packed, it's heaving. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
I'm heading 30 miles north | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
to the spectacular hills of the lower Himalayas. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
This Jammu express to Katra only opened about two years ago. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:55 | |
The rail line isn't completely finished | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
because its destination, at some point in the future, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
is to go all the way to Srinagar in Kashmir. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
CHILDREN CHEER AND SCREAM | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
When it's finished, the railway line will stretch over 200 miles. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
To navigate the rocky landscape, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
engineers are building the world's highest railway bridge, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
35 metres taller than the Eiffel Tower | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
and costing around £70 million. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
This isn't your everyday commute, most of the passengers | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
are on a pilgrimage to one of the holiest sites in the Hindu religion, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
the Shri Mata Vaishno Devi Shrine in Katra. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
It attracts around 8 million visitors every year, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
and is open 24 hours a day. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:03 | |
It's a great chance for me to reconnect with my roots. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
There's only one problem, though. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
The shrine is a seven mile trek to the top of the mountain. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
So, here we go, we are starting our walk up to | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
Vaishno Devi Shrine. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
And it's going to take us five hours to get to the top. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
And we're using our feet. We're not going to take the easy route | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
and go on all these beautiful horses and donkeys. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
Vaishno Devi is a manifestation of the mother goddess Shakti, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
and is believed to bestow strength to the weak, | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
sight to the blind, wealth to the poor | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
and bless childless couples with children. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
DRUMS PLAY Whoo! | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
'But you don't have to be Hindu to make this journey. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
'It's a family outing for everyone.' | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
Whoo! | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
She's not tired at all! | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
29! Oh-ho! | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
But just making this trip once is a huge honour for every Hindu. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:28 | |
Wow. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:35 | |
As a sign of their faith, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
some worshippers bow their body length all the way to the shrine. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
That's over 6,000 agonising bows to the ground. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
The faith of the people here is incredible. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
-Faith, it's big, yeah. -It is sheer devotion, isn't it? -Yes... | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
And THAT is also sheer devotion, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
trying to push that up the hill, that's incredible. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
14,000 steps and a few blisters later, we've made it. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
We've reached the top and that view... | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
SHE GASPS ..is awesome! | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
BUZZ OF CHATTER | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
It's forbidden to take cameras into the shrine | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
but this is religion in the 21st century. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
Once inside the cave, pilgrims greet three decorated rocks | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
that symbolise Hindu goddesses. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
Everybody's giving offerings, their pujas, their prayers | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
and leaving gifts for the holy shrine. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
Legend has it that those who visit the shrine will be granted | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
any wish they make. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
Shall we go in? | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
I head into the cave to make my wish, without the camera. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
Mum, did it! | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
It's only taken me 53 years after you! | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
The shrine at Katra shows the power | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
and importance of religion in this region. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
But religion hasn't always been as divisive as it is today. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
My long drive is coming to an end. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
I'm travelling through the state of Gilgit-Baltistan. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
Before partition, this was part of the independent state | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
of Jammu and Kashmir, ruled over by a Hindu prince. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
For 100 years, the people of these valleys lived peacefully together, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
but in 1947, there was a Muslim uprising | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
and war broke out, splitting the territory in two. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
And signs of the old state are still clear to see. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
After one quick phone call, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:24 | |
I'm off to meet the oldest man in the village. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
He would have been around when this area split from Kashmir. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
You can see why people would want to fight over this land. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
Hello! | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
I find Dr Sharif surrounded by his friends and family. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
I can't think of a better place to grow old. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
Oh, wow. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
Look at the size of that football! It's massive. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
He may be getting on but his memory is still fresh. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
Dr Sharif tells me he joined a paramilitary group in 1947, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
called the Gilgit Scouts, that helped secure Gilgit for Pakistan. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
A few months later, the Pakistani flag was raised in Gilgit, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
effectively splitting Kashmir in two. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
How do you feel now? | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
Do you feel that this land should all be together, still, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
or is it better that it's split? | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
'It's clear Dr Sharif is full of national pride. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
'But there's one more thing he's really passionate about.' | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
Oh, wow. 'Polo.' | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
I find out Dr Sharif captained the Gilgit Scouts polo team for three years, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:34 | |
winning the prestigious Shandu polo tournament in 1965. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
Back home, Polo's the preserve of the rich. Not here. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
We're at the polo in Gilgit and it's just... | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
So many people here and the police are scuffling with people | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
who are trying to get in, it's just so exciting. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
This is bigger than football, isn't it? | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
WHISTLES BLOW | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
Driven by armed guard, Dr Sharif arrives. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
He hasn't played a polo match in decades | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
but the fans have not forgotten him. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
He is a living legend. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
And while hundreds of people fight to get a good view... | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
..I've landed the best seat in the house. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
His old team, renamed the Northern Scouts, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
are playing their rivals, the Gilgit-Baltistan police force. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
I can't make out the rules. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
Luckily, Dr Sharif's son is on hand to explain. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
No rules? | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
You're allowed to hit the other player? | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
This freestyle polo has been played in northern Pakistan | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
since the 15th century and originates from ancient Persia. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:45 | |
Back in the day, legend has it that polo was played with | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
the chopped-off heads of captured enemies, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
as a symbol of victory. These days, it's just played with a ball. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
This no rules polo has claimed its first casualty. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
CROWD CHEERS | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
The police win the game, 9-4. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
DRUMMING AND CHEERING | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
Even with Kalashnikovs in hand, they break into a traditional | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
celebration dance, rubbing the victory in their rivals' faces. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
I'm 130 miles from Adnan, in Srinagar, | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
the largest city in Jammu and Kashmir. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
Everywhere I look, I can see the Indian Army. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
700,000 security forces are based across this state. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:55 | |
That's one security officer for every 20 citizens. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
No matter where you go around here, you're being watched. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
You've got to just be really careful. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
Many Kashmiris here don't want to be governed by India. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
They want an independent state. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
And it's here, in Srinagar, that their voices are the loudest. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
The state is 70% Muslim, | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
making it the only state in India where Muslims are in the majority. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
In 1989, militants began an uprising against the Indian forces | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
and since then, tens of thousands of people have been killed. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
We've come to Jamia Masjid, | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
one of the biggest mosques here in Srinagar. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
In the last nine months, it's this mosque that has been | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
the centre of violent protests, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
the clashes between Kashmiris and the Indian Army. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
We're about an hour away from Friday prayers. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
And it's usually after the Friday prayers end that the protestors | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
spill out into the main streets around this mosque, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
to protest against what the Kashmiris call | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
the Indian occupation of their land. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
CALL TO PRAYER | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
Last year, during four months of mass protest | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
against the Indian Army, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
more than 100 Kashmiri civilians were killed and 17,000 injured. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
Outside, I meet a group of Kashmiris that have come to pray. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
-Without reason. -Without reason. -Without reason. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
India accuses Pakistan of involvement in the protests. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
Every Friday, like clockwork, Indian security forces surround the mosque. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:01 | |
What have you seen? | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
CAR HORNS BEEP | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
As Friday prayers end, a protest breaks out. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
CROWD CHANTS: | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
The gates to the mosque are locked, keeping protesters inside | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
and stopping them from spilling into the busy streets. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
I can't quite believe what I'm seeing. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
The Indian Army have got these slingshots, and they're | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
picking up the stones that have been thrown at them, firing stones back. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
On the other side of the gates, I get my first glimpse | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
of the protesters, and I'm surprised to see how young they are. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
Well, I wasn't expecting to see a Pakistani flag, but that's | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
a very blatant political message from one of the protesters there. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:54 | |
If you listen to them, they're just saying, "Go, India. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
"We just want to be free." | 0:35:59 | 0:36:00 | |
The protest quickly escalates. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
Let's pull out, guys, pull out. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
And after several near misses, we decide to pull back. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
Indian forces fire tear gas. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
But the young Kashmir protesters throw it back. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
It's pepper... | 0:36:37 | 0:36:38 | |
SHE COUGHS | 0:36:38 | 0:36:39 | |
You can really feel the effects of the tear gas that's just been fired. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:44 | |
There's been about five or six canisters. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
Violence starts to break out in the crowd, so we decide to leave. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
In 2017, it's almost like partition | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
is happening over and over again. Every week. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
People are still feeling it. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
And it's now the next generation. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
Everyone there today was really young. And... | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
..that is, for me, the consequence of what happened 70 years ago. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:26 | |
It's an angry, frustrated voice that will do anything to be heard. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:33 | |
Yesterday's protest opened my eyes. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
Two and a half decades of rebellion against India | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
have taken their toll on the Kashmiri people. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
-Hello, morning. -Hello. How are you? | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
Artists like Massoud are trying new ways to highlight their struggle. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:02 | |
We have a lot of death and destruction. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
Worst affected are our children. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
When you see the kids carrying out these protests | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
and throwing stones and... | 0:38:12 | 0:38:16 | |
angry, violent, who do you blame for that? | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
Imagine the people born during this period. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:25 | |
They haven't seen anything except violence. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
So they were born under the shadow of gun. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
It's alleged that during protests last year, more than 1,000 Kashmiris | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
were shot in the face with pellet guns by the Indian security forces. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:40 | |
Many are said to have been permanently blinded, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
lots of them children. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
So these are the silent images, 2016. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
Digital art. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
I uploaded those images on social media | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
so that it could reach to the masses. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
It's a very powerful image, and I can see how something like that | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
would create a lot of conversation and a lot of reaction from people. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:11 | |
-You can see the pain... -Exactly. -..in your art. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:17 | |
This... | 0:39:17 | 0:39:18 | |
That's Gandhi. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:21 | |
These are the hands of a small boy. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
Because of these pellets, he has lost both the eyes. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
So now he has to search for peace, | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
so he feels the statue of Gandhi with his... | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
Hands. The father of... peace and freedom. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:40 | |
Srinagar is so beautiful, it's a tragedy that more people | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
don't get to see it because of the security situation. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
This is Dal Lake. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:54 | |
Locally it's known as the jewel in the crown of Kashmir. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
That view. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:02 | |
Surrounded by the Pir Panjal mountains, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
the lake covers over eight square miles. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
George Harrison chilled out here in the '60s | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
and played the sitar with Ravi Shankar. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
What are all of these? | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
These are houseboats. These are just like your hotel on the waters. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:25 | |
-It's also called Venice. -The Little Venice of Kashmir. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:30 | |
I can see why. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:31 | |
But unlike Venice, this is deserted. It feels like there's no-one around. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:38 | |
-No diners at the restaurant. -No. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
Everything, all the shops, completely emptied. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
It used to be full of tourists. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
Over 1 million tourists visited Kashmir in 2015. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:56 | |
But since then, tourist numbers have dwindled to almost nothing. | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
It's soul destroying to think that people aren't coming here | 0:41:00 | 0:41:05 | |
because of all the fighting and the violence. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
And that side of Kashmir just doesn't fit with this, | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
which is serene, calm and tranquil. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:17 | |
This is what Kashmiris want the world to see. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
While other parts of India are moving forward, Kashmir is stuck | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
fighting this internal conflict, and it could hold them back for decades. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:30 | |
Pakistan, on the other hand, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
is forging a new alliance with a powerful neighbour. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
I'm travelling along the Karakoram Highway. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
It's an 800-mile stretch of road that goes all the way to China. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
It's one of the highest paved roads on earth. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
Built by Pakistan and China, it's a major trade route, helping to | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
generate £11 billion of trade a year between the two countries. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
We've been on the Karakoram Highway a few days now. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
This last stretch has just been really smooth and developed | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
and safe. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
And it's this friendship and this relationship that the Chinese | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
have got with the Pakistanis, it feels like something is happening. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
That's the thing, it feels like something is happening. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
In return, the Karakoram Highway gives China direct road access to | 0:42:25 | 0:42:30 | |
Gwadar port on Pakistan's coast, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
where traffic from Chinese commercial | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
and naval vessels is growing. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
And for Pakistan, it's opened up remote areas like Attabad Lake to tourism. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:44 | |
Have you ever seen water like this? Look at the colour of it. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
Shoaib captains a boat, taking visitors on the lake. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
Shoaib tells me the lake was formed after a massive | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
landslide at Attabad village in 2010, killing 20 people. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:29 | |
It blocked the flow of the Hunza River, | 0:43:32 | 0:43:33 | |
slowly forming this lake over seven months. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
There is just little bits, you can see evidence of people's houses. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
The original Karakoram Highway also disappeared with the village underwater. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
To restore this vital trade link and bypass the lake, China and Pakistan | 0:44:01 | 0:44:06 | |
built a series of bridges and tunnels, costing over £200 million. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:10 | |
That's the tunnel that the Chinese built with the Pakistanis, | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
seven kilometres long, four point... 4.5 miles, something like that. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:19 | |
The China connection is big. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:39 | |
The two countries have now signed a £46 billion | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
series of construction deals | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
that should rapidly modernise Pakistani infrastructure | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
and strengthen the economy. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
How do you see the future of Pakistan? | 0:44:49 | 0:44:51 | |
Do you see a burst of trade with China | 0:44:51 | 0:44:52 | |
and a burst of trade with the world? | 0:44:52 | 0:44:54 | |
I drive further up the Karakoram Highway and, after an hour, | 0:45:10 | 0:45:13 | |
reach the Passu Glacier. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:15 | |
It waters this high altitude farmland, | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
providing food for the remote communities. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:23 | |
I'm now only 60 miles from China. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:27 | |
Most of the people here are Ismaili Muslims, | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
one of the more moderate sections of Islam. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
Hello. Assalaamu Alaikum. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
They speak Wakhi, and have Aryan origins. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:43 | |
Unlike some ultraconservative parts of Pakistan, | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
where girls are stopped from going to school, education here, | 0:45:47 | 0:45:51 | |
especially for girls, is really valued. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
What are you going to be, what are you going to do with your lives? | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
-Doctor. -Doctor? -Doctor. -Doctor. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:09 | |
-Doctor. -Doctor. -Teacher. -Teacher. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
-Heart doctor. -Heart doctor. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:14 | |
-Eye doctor. -Eye doctor. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
This is what all villages in Pakistan could look like, | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
if all students, regardless of gender, | 0:46:24 | 0:46:27 | |
are given the same opportunities. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
And it's all made possible through a mixture of government | 0:46:31 | 0:46:33 | |
and private schools, and academies funded by international foundations. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:38 | |
Assalaamu Alaikum. Assalaamu Alaikum. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
-A little bit English. -A little bit, OK. Great. This is your field? | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
-Yeah, this is my field. -What do you grow? -Potatoes and some vegetables. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
Then we have wheat also, the green field is wheat. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:52 | |
-Where did you learn English? -When we were going to school, | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
from classics, we start just A, B, C. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
-Does everybody learn English? -Nowadays, yes, everyone. -Wow. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
In this area we have good schools here, | 0:47:01 | 0:47:03 | |
especially this village, 100% literacy. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
-100% literacy levels? -Yeah, in this village. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
It's probably more than Burnley. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:10 | |
Education has given Ijaz's children opportunities he only dreamt of. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:16 | |
He tells me his eldest daughter is studying a Masters degree | 0:47:16 | 0:47:18 | |
in economics at Islamabad University. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
She plans to return to the village and become a banker. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:25 | |
Looking at all the development that's gone on in Pakistan, and one | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
of the big things I've seen is the Chinese development and the road. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
Do you the kids might end up learning Chinese? | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
First they will learn English and nowadays the Chinese also. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:38 | |
Because of the road and all this. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
I just think Pakistan is lucky to have this forward kind of thinking. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
You know, you've got this really young, | 0:47:45 | 0:47:48 | |
vibrant, bursting population who are really educated. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
On the border with China. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
It's huge. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
By forging a relationship with China, | 0:47:57 | 0:47:59 | |
and by putting education at the forefront of children's development, | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
it feels this remote northern area is headed in the right direction. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:07 | |
100 miles from Anand in India, I've spent most of my time | 0:48:14 | 0:48:19 | |
avoiding treacherous mountain drives. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:21 | |
But now, I can no longer avoid it. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
I'm heading along the Zojila Pass in the Himalayan ranges. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:31 | |
At over 11,000 feet, | 0:48:31 | 0:48:33 | |
this is one of the most dangerous stretches of road in the world. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:37 | |
I can see the rocks falling, I've seen a few coming down. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
ENGINE STUTTERS | 0:48:40 | 0:48:41 | |
Oh, dear, that doesn't sound very healthy. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
You don't want a breakdown on this road, there's no AA around here. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:48 | |
Wow. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:50 | |
It might be the lifeline from Srinagar to Kargil, | 0:48:51 | 0:48:54 | |
but you could well lose your life on this pass. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:56 | |
Kargil is my next stop. | 0:48:58 | 0:48:59 | |
It's where the last war was fought between India and Pakistan in 1999. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:04 | |
The border in this region is not like the international border | 0:49:06 | 0:49:10 | |
I visited at the start of my journey in Jammu. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
It's called the Line of Control, also known as the LOC. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:18 | |
It roughly marks the military front where India | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
and Pakistan declared a ceasefire line in 1949. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:26 | |
It's not an official border, but acts as a boundary | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
between the two hostile countries, running for 460 miles. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:34 | |
And it's split thousands of families | 0:49:37 | 0:49:38 | |
who live apart in neighbouring villages. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:42 | |
Assalaamu Alaikum. Babita. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
Sajid Hussein has lived here his whole life. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
We are in the Line of Control. This is Hunderman village... | 0:49:47 | 0:49:53 | |
from Indian side, which comes under Kargil district. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:57 | |
And that village is Brolmo village. Brolmo village is in Pakistan. | 0:49:57 | 0:50:02 | |
-And the Line of Control runs directly through this area? -Yeah. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:06 | |
I can see that Pakistani village from here. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:13 | |
And there can't be more than five kilometres separating them. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:17 | |
It's just two or three kilometres away from the villages. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:21 | |
So there are families that are from this village that have | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
family in that village over there. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:26 | |
Yes, of course. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:27 | |
Hi. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:33 | |
Saeed Rizvi has a half brother | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
living just over the border in Pakistan. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
Oh, lots of pictures. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
You look so different. SHE LAUGHS | 0:50:50 | 0:50:52 | |
-This is him, here, at 38? -30 years. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:56 | |
That's his brother. | 0:50:56 | 0:50:58 | |
He tells me if he could cross the Line of Control, | 0:50:58 | 0:51:00 | |
he could visit his brother within hours. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
How far is your brother's house to where you are now? | 0:51:03 | 0:51:07 | |
Instead of this short trip, Saeed must take a 1,600 mile detour | 0:51:17 | 0:51:22 | |
around the Line of Control that can take up to 15 days. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:26 | |
He's only been able to visit his brother once. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:29 | |
Most families simply can't afford it. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
Do you know how many families are divided like yours? | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
And some probably have never seen their families. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
Some families have waited a generation to meet | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
their relatives on both sides of the Line of Control. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:19 | |
I can't help but feel it's like the Berlin Wall of Asia. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:23 | |
Not just dividing families, but communities, | 0:52:23 | 0:52:27 | |
who for centuries used to live together. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
It's taken us days to get here, but I'm so glad that we came. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:34 | |
Because I had no idea that partition affected people | 0:52:34 | 0:52:38 | |
this far north of the border. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
It's heartbreaking... | 0:52:42 | 0:52:43 | |
..to think that today... | 0:52:46 | 0:52:48 | |
..families can't be together. | 0:52:51 | 0:52:52 | |
70 miles away in Pakistan, my journey is coming to an end. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:16 | |
Over the last five weeks, I've travelled over 1,400 miles, | 0:53:16 | 0:53:20 | |
crossing three states. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
I'm now high up in the Thalay Valley. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:26 | |
53 miles east is the Siachen Glacier, | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
the highest battlefield in the world, where even now Pakistan | 0:53:31 | 0:53:36 | |
and India are locked in a stalemate over whose land this really is. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
But the people that live here | 0:53:42 | 0:53:43 | |
just seem to be getting on with their lives. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
Hello, baby. That tongue feels lovely. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:48 | |
Seven decades of bitter separation have cost both Pakistan | 0:53:50 | 0:53:54 | |
and India dearly. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:56 | |
Not just in terms of military spending and lost lives, but also | 0:53:56 | 0:54:00 | |
at the cost of trade, which would massively benefit the two nations. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:03 | |
On this journey, I've seen so many reasons to be positive, | 0:54:28 | 0:54:31 | |
and it's all down to the people that I've met, | 0:54:31 | 0:54:33 | |
who, despite all the problems, are just getting on with things | 0:54:33 | 0:54:37 | |
and moving this country forward into the 21st century. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:41 | |
The Pakistan that I've met today is a young country, | 0:54:41 | 0:54:44 | |
it's a 70-year-old country, and it's trying to work itself out. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:49 | |
It's trying to work itself out with that really awkward | 0:54:49 | 0:54:52 | |
conversation it's got to have with its neighbour. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:54 | |
About how they, you know, fell out 70 years ago. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:59 | |
I'm leaving Pakistan with a real sense of optimism for the future. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:02 | |
And not just for this country, but for myself, as a British Pakistani. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:08 | |
This is the end of my journey here in Pakistan. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
It's not the end of my relationship with Pakistan. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
I feel more of a Pakistani, feel like it's more of me, | 0:55:14 | 0:55:16 | |
and I feel like it's just going to get more | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
and more deeper as I visit this country more. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
This is a part of me. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:24 | |
The end's in sight for me, too. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
We've driven to Leh, where Buddhism is the main religion. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
We've come to one of the biggest monasteries here, Hemis Monastery. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:58 | |
It's so peaceful. I can't think of a better way to end my journey. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
Hemis Monastery dates back to the 1600s, | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
and attracts tourists from all over the world. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:12 | |
It's customary to make an offering to Buddha with flowers, | 0:56:12 | 0:56:16 | |
candles, fruit, incense or water. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:19 | |
Offering water symbolises purity and clarity of mind. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
We're just walking around this beautiful, | 0:56:37 | 0:56:38 | |
huge statue of Buddha here. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:41 | |
Many of the people that come here, tourists and also Buddhists, | 0:56:41 | 0:56:44 | |
do the same walk. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:45 | |
And one is the minimum, but if you can do three, | 0:56:46 | 0:56:49 | |
that's considered auspicious. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:51 | |
But here the monks walk around | 0:56:51 | 0:56:53 | |
sometimes thousands and thousands of times. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
I came on this journey to find out what India has become | 0:56:56 | 0:57:00 | |
70 years after partition. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:02 | |
And what I witnessed in Kashmir has affected me the most. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:06 | |
What do you think about the problems of Jammu and Kashmir? | 0:57:06 | 0:57:09 | |
When I started my journey five weeks ago in the southern state | 0:57:33 | 0:57:37 | |
of Gujarat, I got a sense that partition was starting to fade into history. | 0:57:37 | 0:57:42 | |
But as I made my way north through Rajasthan, then the Punjab | 0:57:42 | 0:57:46 | |
and now Kashmir, the legacy of partition grew stronger and more bitter. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:51 | |
From the innocent victims living in fear along the border, to the | 0:57:51 | 0:57:55 | |
Kashmiris who feel oppressed in their own land. | 0:57:55 | 0:57:58 | |
The truth is, is that I... | 0:57:58 | 0:58:01 | |
realise how partition has ripped the heart out of India. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:05 | |
And to this day, people are still suffering. | 0:58:07 | 0:58:11 | |
And it breaks my heart to think that this power struggle | 0:58:13 | 0:58:17 | |
between Pakistan and India is preventing peace today in 2017. | 0:58:17 | 0:58:22 | |
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