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Hello and welcome to another episode of Santer.

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On this week's programme, Captain Jim Moore allows us

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up into his attic to see his wonderful collection of model boats.

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How many have you in total, Jim?

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There's 130 altogether and I made about 100.

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Willie Hill puts Bobby Acheson and Andy Cornett through their paces

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on the fife and drum.

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-I know there's a week to go and I'll...

-A week to go now, Bobby,

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-so you'll be two hours every night from now to next week.

-Is that right?

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Mark Wilson crosses from Canada into the United States on his musical journey.

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And it's here that eventually the Cape Breton fiddle style, moving south,

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would meet with the bluegrass fiddle style, moving north,

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and mix with the Scots and Irish fiddle styles that were still arriving.

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And Wilson Burgess visits a World War II exhibition in Bushmills.

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A World War II jeep in a street in Bushmills?

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There must be a reason for that.

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But before all that, Diana Culbertson's back with us

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after the great reaction she got the last time she appeared on Santer.

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This time, she's singing the Dougie MacLean song, Caledonia.

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# I don't know if you can see the changes that have come over me

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# In these last few days I've been afraid

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# That I might drift away

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# So I've been telling old stories, singing songs

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# That made me think about where I came from

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# That's the reason why I seem

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# So far away today

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# Oh and let me tell you that I love you

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# That I think about you all the time

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# Caledonia, you're calling me And now I'm going home

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# If I should become a stranger, know that it would make me more than sad

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# Caledonia's been everything I've ever had

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# Now I have moved And I've kept on moving

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# Proved the points that I needed proving

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# Lost the friends that I needed losing

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# Found others on the way

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# I have tried And I've kept on trying

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# Stalling dreams, there's no denying

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# I've travelled hard with my conscience flying

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# Somewhere in the wind

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# Oh and let me tell you that I love you

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# That I think about you all the time

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# Caledonia, you're calling me And now I'm going home.

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# If I should become a stranger, know that it would make me more than sad

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# Caledonia's been everything I've ever had

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# Well, instead of thinking my way is clear

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# And I know what I will do tomorrow

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# When the hands are shaking And the kisses flow

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# Then I will disappear

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# Oh and let me tell you that I love you

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# That I think about you all the time

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# Caledonia, you're calling me And now I'm going home

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# If I should become a stranger, know that it would make me more than sad

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# Caledonia's been everything

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# I've ever had

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# If I should become a stranger, know that it would make me more than sad

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# Caledonia's been everything I've ever had

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# Caledonia's been everything

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# I've ever had. #

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Andy Cornett's the drummer with the group, Stonewall,

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and up to very recently, he had never played a Lambeg drum.

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Bobby Acheson plays the whistle in his group, The Grousebeaters,

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but he had never played the fife.

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Music teacher and band conductor, Willie Hill, has taken up

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the challenge to prepare Andy and Bobby for a recording of Lillibolero

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with last year's World Champion Flute Band, Kellswater of Ballymena.

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The boys have been practising hard but the recording date is looming.

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Right, boys? The pressure's on. A week to go before we start recording here.

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Let's hear you.

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I was convinced when I turned up this afternoon,

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this is not going to work.

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We've never played together at all

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and I thought, "My goodness, what have we let ourselves in for?"

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And to be fair to Andy and Bobby, both of them,

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they've obviously worked hard.

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I've been practising away on my own, obviously, what I've got to learn.

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I know Bobby's been practising away on his own with his fife.

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Hopefully, we'll be able to pull it off.

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I haven't been practising much.

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Willie left the fife down to me a few weeks ago and, as you know,

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Willie was sort of helping me with the tuition there.

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And it's been lying on the kitchen table there every week

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and I've been passing by and passing by

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and I said, "Goodness, I better pick that fife up."

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I haven't been doing really a great job,

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but I'll have to pick up a bit and start practising, hopefully.

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She's ropey. That would be the best way of saying it.

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The only bit we need to watch, Bobby, is just in there.

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I really haven't been trying this, as you know.

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-I know there's a week to go and I'll...

-A week to go now, Bobby,

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so you'll be at two hours every night from now to next week.

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-Is that right?

-Oh, at least, at least.

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And you have to work at this bit here. All right, Andy?

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Will we give her one more go? We'll cross our fingers and hope for the best.

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See if you get faster, too, Bobby? There's going to be a row!

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Will you step on my toe, Willie?

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Or I'll hit you a dig in the gub, as they say.

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Bobby is panicking me.

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He likes when I play along with him, but once I sort of stop playing,

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Bobby sort of draws back into himself

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and you're saying, "Bobby, come on, you can do this, you can do this."

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In the normal fifing tradition anyway,

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you'd always have two or three fifers playing together.

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Andy's made a right good shape at that now.

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The only thing is, try to get rid of the "jig-time" feel to it.

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Yeah. Basically I'm doing a bit of syncopation, just like I would

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with the pipe band drumming, and it's just trying to get

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that out of my head and doing it more of a straight...

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Just think of the straight quavers, you know - deedle-ee-dum, dum, dum, dum, dum-dum, dum-dum.

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Andy's found the rhythm - I mean he's worked at it.

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But as soon as the fifes started and we had a wee go earlier on,

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he sort of lost the plot a wee bit.

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This will be a major achievement for both of them.

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They won't have played with that sort of standard of a band ever before.

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The Kellswater will be expecting us to be playing at their standard.

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I think they'll be grand. There may be a couple of wee wrong notes or missed beats,

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but we're not professionals, we're just doing it for a bit of craic.

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I wonder how Andy and Bobby will fare

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when they meet up with Kellswater to record the track.

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Join us next week to find out.

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Oh, it's the Ulster Orchestra ringing Bobby here!

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LAUGHTER

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Portavogie has had a proud association with the sea,

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and fishing in particular, down through the years.

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One of the most well-known retired seamen from the area is Captain Jim Moore,

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and I was privileged enough to get to see his fabulous collection of model boats.

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Right, follow me!

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Oh, my goodness, Jim!

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This covers my Merchant Navy days, all these boats.

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I never saw as many boats - how many have you in total, Jim?

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There's 130 altogether and I made about 100.

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-You have built every one of these?

-Every one that you're looking at.

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I love this here.

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These are steam-boats - they're like emitting so much smoke.

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When I started building, we used to have a poodle

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and when we washed it, then I had to get its hair brushed and all.

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-And we started and made it into smoke.

-Good idea.

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Jim, whenever we came up here, you were telling me

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that back in your day, every wee fellow really was a fisherman.

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There was no other job, like.

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No such a thing as working in Belfast or Newtownards or anything like that.

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It was the fishing - so I started on 26th July, 1947

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and then I joined the Merchant Navy in early '51.

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So, then, of course, you became Captain Moore,

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and that must have been a very proud moment for you.

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I sat for my first certificate in 1956.

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I've been a crew of 52 ships in my time.

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I was nearly 70 years at sea.

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One of the nicest ports I've been to was the Italian ports.

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Now when I hear Italian music, it takes me back again

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to the days when I was young and I walked the streets

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and you saw the beautiful senoritas with their long black hair.

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Jim, you have been all round the world in all these different ports -

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how do they compare to Portavogie, or is Portavogie the best?

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Well, Portavogie's home.

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The nicest port I've been in is St Petersburg in Russia.

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I read a lot, so I'm well versed on Russian history,

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but also Norway and Italy are really beautiful countries.

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-But what makes them more special than Portavogie?

-Nothing.

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-It's nice to see... It's nice to see them.

-It's nice to be somewhere else.

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-It's nicer to come home.

-That's right.

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My musical journey, which started in Donegal,

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brought me across the Atlantic and into Nova Scotia,

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but I've left Canada now and I'm heading south

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through the United States.

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I'm just about to enter the port city of Boston.

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Between 1714 and 1720,

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54 ships carrying Ulster-Scots settlers from towns like Londonderry,

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Coleraine, Aghadowey and Macosquin, would arrive into Boston harbour.

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And they would establish a flourishing

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and influential Scots-Irish community in both Massachusetts and Maine.

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And it's here that eventually, the Cape Breton fiddle style, moving south,

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would meet with the bluegrass fiddle style, moving north,

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and mix with the Scots and Irish fiddle styles that were still arriving.

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Boston became a melting-pot for lots of different styles of music,

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and that's still the case today.

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Kimberley Fraser plays in the Cape Breton style -

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which, of course, originated in Scotland -

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but she regularly plays with musicians from other genres.

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We have a Cape Breton musician, an Irish musician,

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a bluegrass musician and an Ulster-Scot musician -

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so that's probably not the first time that has happened in Boston, either?

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No. Well, of course, the city is such a melting pot of music.

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Oisin McAuley is from the band, Danu, well-known band,

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and Mark Simos, in addition to being a great Irish accompanist,

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he's a great fiddle player as well, playing old-time music.

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And what was it like, adding somebody else in

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-from across the other side of the Atlantic?

-Absolutely great.

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Percussion is not something that I'm quite used to playing with

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in Cape Breton - it's primarily the piano -

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so to have that element of the percussion is always great.

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Kimberley, you're a modern-day Cape Bretoner that has

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moved down into Boston, but you're not the first one to do that?

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For sure. In the 50s and the 60s, there were lots of Cape Breton fiddlers living here.

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Then, of course, there were always Cape Bretoners passing through to play dances.

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There was a huge network and the Canadian-American Club in Watertown,

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that was, I think, the hub and it still is, actually.

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There's still monthly Cape Breton dances that go on there,

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so there is a really big Cape Breton scene here.

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I initially moved to Boston to go to Berklee College of Music

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to start just kind of looking at some different styles

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of fiddle-playing.

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And now I teach a lot in the Boston area,

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primarily in the Cape Breton fiddle style.

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What age did you start playing?

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I was six years old playing the fiddle, yeah.

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So you've only been playing for a few years, then?

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Oh, you're very kind!

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So for you, as a Cape Breton fiddler, you have now moved south

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and you've met up with different styles of fiddle-playing.

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There's a lot of Irish music in Boston,

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so I'm definitely influenced by the repertoire.

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I love Irish music - not so much the style.

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I think I'm pretty entrenched in my own Cape Breton style.

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I don't know if I could ever be any other type of fiddle player.

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But the Irish repertoire for sure. I love to incorporate that.

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There's also, of course, a lot of American fiddle styles

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prevalent in Boston - old-time music, Bluegrass music.

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So would it be fair to say that Boston is a melting-pot

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-for lots of different styles?

-Absolutely.

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On next week's Santer, Mark will be driving north out of Boston,

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heading for Londonderry, on the last leg of his musical journey.

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I'll tell you, did you ever hear of a thing called a rab-hog?

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Well, I'll tell you what a rab-hog is.

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We had a person one time came up to the village

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and he married a lass from the village

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and he was telling us all about this strange animal that he encountered.

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We thought it was drink talking.

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So he and the brother went down to this person's farm.

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I'll not tell you where it is

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because he doesn't take kindly to people poking over his land.

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But this thing's called a rab-hog.

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Now, it happened up round the top of Knocklayde

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and it was where a rabbit and a hedgehog mated.

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And this was a strange animal.

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It had two long legs on this side, two short legs on that side

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and, you see, that was for running round the mountain, you see.

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Because the mountain was like that - and it had to run square.

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So it had the long legs and the short legs, so it was stable.

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Well, it went all round the bar anyway

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till they had to catch one of these things.

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But they couldn't catch it.

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The old farmer said he caught one away after the war.

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But he said the way he did it was he went in front of it and he spun it.

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In other words, he turned it back to front and then, you see,

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the wee short legs were down and the big long legs were up.

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And it couped over and he dived on it.

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But he said that was the only way you could catch them.

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So if ever you're down round those glens at the back of Knocklayde,

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take a look. You see if you catch one?

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Take it to the pub, because the bounty's still there

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and that's why you have to catch it.

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You have to find it.

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Aye, and I suppose you'll have to look for the pub, as well.

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Though there are some of you will maybe know the path to it rightly.

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Good luck to youse.

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I'm Sarah

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and this is Sam. He's 13, too.

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I've had him for about a year and a half.

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I'm not actually quite sure what breed he is.

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He's really good.

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He doesn't spook at anything.

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This is Roxy.

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Her and Sam aren't that very good friends.

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She leads Sam and he doesn't really like it!

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We're getting ready for a show in Coleraine - a Working Hunters' Show.

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I haven't done it before so this is the first time.

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The RDA Arena in Coleraine is the venue for a round of the Working

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Hunter League that young Sarah will be entering for the first time.

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But for another young rider, Wendy Anderson,

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these jumps are more familiar.

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You get to this jump here and then you would go out around...

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No! Around that way and then over this one.

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Show jumping would be just like

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a normal straight pole.

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And then in Working Hunters, you would have

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some bushes, like the Bumblebees,

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the Chickens and the Trees and all that.

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It makes it more spookier.

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What have you basically jumped highest?

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The highest is a metre. What's your highest?

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Mine is a one metre, five and I haven't jumped it in a long time.

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I'm a wee bit excited, but nervous.

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'I'm very annoyed.

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'He never usually would do that.'

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I've been show-jumping but I've never did this before.

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He's never did it before.

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I've never worn a jacket or a net in my hair, so it's all new.

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It's different.

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TANNOY: 'Special prize to Sarah and Sam, her first day at a Working Hunter Show. Well done.'

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APPLAUSE

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-Will you come back?

-Yeah, hopefully.

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Yeah, I was like, "No, no, I don't want to go back"

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because I was the same as you, I fell off at my first Working Hunter.

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And it is scary, isn't it?

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Sarah's day might be over, but Wendy has more rounds to jump,

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watched for the very first time by her great uncle John.

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-You've never seen me jump before?

-No, I have not.

-OK.

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You'd be nearly as handy getting round on that as a car or a tractor.

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We have been riding for about five and a half years.

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I call him Scooby but his name isn't Scooby Doom, it's Scooby Don't,

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because he always does things he doesn't want to do...

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No, no, no, no!

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Stop that!

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Well done, congratulations, and here's your rosette.

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Congratulations.

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Thank you.

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Next time I'm back, you'll probably see me on a horse!

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A World War Two jeep.

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Boys, isn't this fabulous altogether?

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And this is of great interest to me

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because I have a great interest in World War Two or anything

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associated with it, because my own father was in the World War Two.

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But a World War Two jeep in a street in Bushmills?

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There must be a reason for that!

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And of course there is, because behind me here,

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in the Hamill Memorial Hall, there's an exhibition on

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called Bushmills At War.

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We started off five years ago

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and we only had a couple of tables of stuff.

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The local people came in and they thought it was brilliant.

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And they'd say, "Look I've got an old tin box out in my garden",

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or "I've got such and such in my shed. Would you like it for your exhibition?"

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-And that's how it started.

-So you get a lot of community support?

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A lot of community support.

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People are very proud that their loved ones, who gave their lives in the war.

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This particular helmet belongs to the Bevin Boys

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and not a lot of people know about them,

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but it was people who joined the army.

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If your number ended in nine, you had to go down the pits

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and work down the mine.

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Aye, well I'm old enough to remember something about that.

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I'm not well tuned into it but I mind something about the Bevin Boys.

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That's the explanation, is it?

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Yes, and they stayed down the mine until the end of the war.

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Glenda, you've told me something I didn't know before. Great.

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What fascinated you about this sort of stuff?

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Well, whenever I was quite young, on a Sunday afternoon,

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I would go down and visit my great grandmother, Katy McAllister. She was from Rathlin Island.

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And she would take out an old battered suitcase

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and inside it she had photographs, letters, postcards.

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And she told me about her only son, Jim.

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-This is Jim here - Jim McAllister.

-So Jim was in the navy?

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He was in the navy and he joined the submarines and in 1941,

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while out on an exercise off Nova Scotia,

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the submarine he was in was rammed by a Canadian ship, by mistake.

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They thought it was a U-boat.

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So she would take out his photograph

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and the telegram that she'd received from the War Office

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to say that he had been killed in action and show me these photographs.

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Glenda, there's a great World War Two jeep out there

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at the front of the door. Where did that come from?

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That belongs to a man, Vince Cooke from Staffordshire.

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I met Vince in 2003.

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It was the 59th anniversary of the D-Day Landings.

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We have become good friends and he comes every year

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and brings the jeep with him - and he drives up and down the town with the siren going.

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Glenda's interest in World War Two grew so much

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she decided to look into the background of all the war dead

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from her area, starting with those named on the memorial in Bushmills.

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She has since visited the final resting place of them all.

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To me, the research is not just going to the graveyard,

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not just finding out how they died.

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I like to get a photograph of the individual,

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find out what school he went to, what his hobbies were,

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you know, that type of thing. Find out about his previous life.

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But you travel, I mean, it's not just the Flanders Fields you go to?

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-No.

-You travel further afield even than that?

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Yes, I've been to the River Kwai

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and El Alamein, where I met a couple from the South of England

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and I went with them to Burma for the last three years,

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because we have a soldier there, James Andrew McCaughan,

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and I had the book all researched and about to go to press,

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but I hadn't been to his grave.

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And I really, really wanted to go, because I could say that

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I'd been to all their graves and placed a poppy cross.

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Fair play to you, Glenda. I think it's a wonderful job altogether.

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It's whenever you go to the family

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and they see their loved one commemorated,

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they're overjoyed with it.

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Well, that's near enough it for this week's Santer.

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We're going to leave you now with a dance performance

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from the Michelle Johnston Dance School

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and music from some very talented young musicians. Cheerio.

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