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Hello and welcome to another episode of Santer. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
On this week's programme, Captain Jim Moore allows us | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
up into his attic to see his wonderful collection of model boats. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
How many have you in total, Jim? | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
There's 130 altogether and I made about 100. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
Willie Hill puts Bobby Acheson and Andy Cornett through their paces | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
on the fife and drum. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
-I know there's a week to go and I'll... -A week to go now, Bobby, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
-so you'll be two hours every night from now to next week. -Is that right? | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
Mark Wilson crosses from Canada into the United States on his musical journey. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:37 | |
And it's here that eventually the Cape Breton fiddle style, moving south, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
would meet with the bluegrass fiddle style, moving north, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
and mix with the Scots and Irish fiddle styles that were still arriving. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
And Wilson Burgess visits a World War II exhibition in Bushmills. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
A World War II jeep in a street in Bushmills? | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
There must be a reason for that. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
But before all that, Diana Culbertson's back with us | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
after the great reaction she got the last time she appeared on Santer. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
This time, she's singing the Dougie MacLean song, Caledonia. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
# I don't know if you can see the changes that have come over me | 0:01:22 | 0:01:29 | |
# In these last few days I've been afraid | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
# That I might drift away | 0:01:32 | 0:01:37 | |
# So I've been telling old stories, singing songs | 0:01:37 | 0:01:42 | |
# That made me think about where I came from | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
# That's the reason why I seem | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
# So far away today | 0:01:49 | 0:01:55 | |
# Oh and let me tell you that I love you | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
# That I think about you all the time | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
# Caledonia, you're calling me And now I'm going home | 0:02:02 | 0:02:09 | |
# If I should become a stranger, know that it would make me more than sad | 0:02:09 | 0:02:17 | |
# Caledonia's been everything I've ever had | 0:02:17 | 0:02:23 | |
# Now I have moved And I've kept on moving | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
# Proved the points that I needed proving | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
# Lost the friends that I needed losing | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
# Found others on the way | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
# I have tried And I've kept on trying | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
# Stalling dreams, there's no denying | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
# I've travelled hard with my conscience flying | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
# Somewhere in the wind | 0:02:53 | 0:02:58 | |
# Oh and let me tell you that I love you | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
# That I think about you all the time | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
# Caledonia, you're calling me And now I'm going home. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:14 | |
# If I should become a stranger, know that it would make me more than sad | 0:03:14 | 0:03:21 | |
# Caledonia's been everything I've ever had | 0:03:21 | 0:03:27 | |
# Well, instead of thinking my way is clear | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
# And I know what I will do tomorrow | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
# When the hands are shaking And the kisses flow | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
# Then I will disappear | 0:03:57 | 0:04:02 | |
# Oh and let me tell you that I love you | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
# That I think about you all the time | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
# Caledonia, you're calling me And now I'm going home | 0:04:11 | 0:04:17 | |
# If I should become a stranger, know that it would make me more than sad | 0:04:17 | 0:04:25 | |
# Caledonia's been everything | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
# I've ever had | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
# If I should become a stranger, know that it would make me more than sad | 0:04:33 | 0:04:41 | |
# Caledonia's been everything I've ever had | 0:04:41 | 0:04:49 | |
# Caledonia's been everything | 0:04:49 | 0:04:55 | |
# I've ever had. # | 0:04:55 | 0:05:01 | |
Andy Cornett's the drummer with the group, Stonewall, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
and up to very recently, he had never played a Lambeg drum. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
Bobby Acheson plays the whistle in his group, The Grousebeaters, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
but he had never played the fife. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
Music teacher and band conductor, Willie Hill, has taken up | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
the challenge to prepare Andy and Bobby for a recording of Lillibolero | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
with last year's World Champion Flute Band, Kellswater of Ballymena. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
The boys have been practising hard but the recording date is looming. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
Right, boys? The pressure's on. A week to go before we start recording here. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
Let's hear you. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:42 | |
I was convinced when I turned up this afternoon, | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
this is not going to work. | 0:05:58 | 0:05:59 | |
We've never played together at all | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
and I thought, "My goodness, what have we let ourselves in for?" | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
And to be fair to Andy and Bobby, both of them, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
they've obviously worked hard. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
I've been practising away on my own, obviously, what I've got to learn. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
I know Bobby's been practising away on his own with his fife. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
Hopefully, we'll be able to pull it off. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
I haven't been practising much. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
Willie left the fife down to me a few weeks ago and, as you know, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
Willie was sort of helping me with the tuition there. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
And it's been lying on the kitchen table there every week | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
and I've been passing by and passing by | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
and I said, "Goodness, I better pick that fife up." | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
I haven't been doing really a great job, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
but I'll have to pick up a bit and start practising, hopefully. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
She's ropey. That would be the best way of saying it. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
The only bit we need to watch, Bobby, is just in there. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
I really haven't been trying this, as you know. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
-I know there's a week to go and I'll... -A week to go now, Bobby, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
so you'll be at two hours every night from now to next week. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
-Is that right? -Oh, at least, at least. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
And you have to work at this bit here. All right, Andy? | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
Will we give her one more go? We'll cross our fingers and hope for the best. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
See if you get faster, too, Bobby? There's going to be a row! | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
Will you step on my toe, Willie? | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
Or I'll hit you a dig in the gub, as they say. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
Bobby is panicking me. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:35 | |
He likes when I play along with him, but once I sort of stop playing, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
Bobby sort of draws back into himself | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
and you're saying, "Bobby, come on, you can do this, you can do this." | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
In the normal fifing tradition anyway, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
you'd always have two or three fifers playing together. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
Andy's made a right good shape at that now. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
The only thing is, try to get rid of the "jig-time" feel to it. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
Yeah. Basically I'm doing a bit of syncopation, just like I would | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
with the pipe band drumming, and it's just trying to get | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
that out of my head and doing it more of a straight... | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
Just think of the straight quavers, you know - deedle-ee-dum, dum, dum, dum, dum-dum, dum-dum. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
Andy's found the rhythm - I mean he's worked at it. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
But as soon as the fifes started and we had a wee go earlier on, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
he sort of lost the plot a wee bit. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
This will be a major achievement for both of them. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
They won't have played with that sort of standard of a band ever before. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
The Kellswater will be expecting us to be playing at their standard. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:42 | |
I think they'll be grand. There may be a couple of wee wrong notes or missed beats, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:47 | |
but we're not professionals, we're just doing it for a bit of craic. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
I wonder how Andy and Bobby will fare | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
when they meet up with Kellswater to record the track. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
Join us next week to find out. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
Oh, it's the Ulster Orchestra ringing Bobby here! | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
Portavogie has had a proud association with the sea, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
and fishing in particular, down through the years. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
One of the most well-known retired seamen from the area is Captain Jim Moore, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:16 | |
and I was privileged enough to get to see his fabulous collection of model boats. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:21 | |
Right, follow me! | 0:09:21 | 0:09:22 | |
Oh, my goodness, Jim! | 0:09:25 | 0:09:26 | |
This covers my Merchant Navy days, all these boats. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:40 | |
I never saw as many boats - how many have you in total, Jim? | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
There's 130 altogether and I made about 100. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
-You have built every one of these? -Every one that you're looking at. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
I love this here. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:55 | |
These are steam-boats - they're like emitting so much smoke. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
When I started building, we used to have a poodle | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
and when we washed it, then I had to get its hair brushed and all. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
-And we started and made it into smoke. -Good idea. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
Jim, whenever we came up here, you were telling me | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
that back in your day, every wee fellow really was a fisherman. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:24 | |
There was no other job, like. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:25 | |
No such a thing as working in Belfast or Newtownards or anything like that. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
It was the fishing - so I started on 26th July, 1947 | 0:10:29 | 0:10:34 | |
and then I joined the Merchant Navy in early '51. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
So, then, of course, you became Captain Moore, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
and that must have been a very proud moment for you. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
I sat for my first certificate in 1956. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
I've been a crew of 52 ships in my time. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
I was nearly 70 years at sea. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
One of the nicest ports I've been to was the Italian ports. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
Now when I hear Italian music, it takes me back again | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
to the days when I was young and I walked the streets | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
and you saw the beautiful senoritas with their long black hair. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:14 | |
Jim, you have been all round the world in all these different ports - | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
how do they compare to Portavogie, or is Portavogie the best? | 0:11:19 | 0:11:24 | |
Well, Portavogie's home. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:25 | |
The nicest port I've been in is St Petersburg in Russia. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:31 | |
I read a lot, so I'm well versed on Russian history, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
but also Norway and Italy are really beautiful countries. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
-But what makes them more special than Portavogie? -Nothing. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
-It's nice to see... It's nice to see them. -It's nice to be somewhere else. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
-It's nicer to come home. -That's right. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
My musical journey, which started in Donegal, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
brought me across the Atlantic and into Nova Scotia, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
but I've left Canada now and I'm heading south | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
through the United States. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:17 | |
I'm just about to enter the port city of Boston. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
Between 1714 and 1720, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
54 ships carrying Ulster-Scots settlers from towns like Londonderry, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
Coleraine, Aghadowey and Macosquin, would arrive into Boston harbour. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
And they would establish a flourishing | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
and influential Scots-Irish community in both Massachusetts and Maine. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
And it's here that eventually, the Cape Breton fiddle style, moving south, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
would meet with the bluegrass fiddle style, moving north, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
and mix with the Scots and Irish fiddle styles that were still arriving. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:59 | |
Boston became a melting-pot for lots of different styles of music, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
and that's still the case today. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:05 | |
Kimberley Fraser plays in the Cape Breton style - | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
which, of course, originated in Scotland - | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
but she regularly plays with musicians from other genres. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
We have a Cape Breton musician, an Irish musician, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
a bluegrass musician and an Ulster-Scot musician - | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
so that's probably not the first time that has happened in Boston, either? | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
No. Well, of course, the city is such a melting pot of music. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:34 | |
Oisin McAuley is from the band, Danu, well-known band, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
and Mark Simos, in addition to being a great Irish accompanist, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:51 | |
he's a great fiddle player as well, playing old-time music. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
And what was it like, adding somebody else in | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
-from across the other side of the Atlantic? -Absolutely great. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
Percussion is not something that I'm quite used to playing with | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
in Cape Breton - it's primarily the piano - | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
so to have that element of the percussion is always great. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:22 | |
Kimberley, you're a modern-day Cape Bretoner that has | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
moved down into Boston, but you're not the first one to do that? | 0:14:33 | 0:14:39 | |
For sure. In the 50s and the 60s, there were lots of Cape Breton fiddlers living here. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
Then, of course, there were always Cape Bretoners passing through to play dances. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:49 | |
There was a huge network and the Canadian-American Club in Watertown, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:54 | |
that was, I think, the hub and it still is, actually. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
There's still monthly Cape Breton dances that go on there, | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
so there is a really big Cape Breton scene here. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:05 | |
I initially moved to Boston to go to Berklee College of Music | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
to start just kind of looking at some different styles | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
of fiddle-playing. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:22 | |
And now I teach a lot in the Boston area, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
primarily in the Cape Breton fiddle style. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
What age did you start playing? | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
I was six years old playing the fiddle, yeah. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
So you've only been playing for a few years, then? | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
Oh, you're very kind! | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
So for you, as a Cape Breton fiddler, you have now moved south | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
and you've met up with different styles of fiddle-playing. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
There's a lot of Irish music in Boston, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
so I'm definitely influenced by the repertoire. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
I love Irish music - not so much the style. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
I think I'm pretty entrenched in my own Cape Breton style. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
I don't know if I could ever be any other type of fiddle player. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
But the Irish repertoire for sure. I love to incorporate that. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:13 | |
There's also, of course, a lot of American fiddle styles | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
prevalent in Boston - old-time music, Bluegrass music. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:21 | |
So would it be fair to say that Boston is a melting-pot | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
-for lots of different styles? -Absolutely. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
On next week's Santer, Mark will be driving north out of Boston, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
heading for Londonderry, on the last leg of his musical journey. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
I'll tell you, did you ever hear of a thing called a rab-hog? | 0:16:56 | 0:17:01 | |
Well, I'll tell you what a rab-hog is. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
We had a person one time came up to the village | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
and he married a lass from the village | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
and he was telling us all about this strange animal that he encountered. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
We thought it was drink talking. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
So he and the brother went down to this person's farm. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
I'll not tell you where it is | 0:17:20 | 0:17:21 | |
because he doesn't take kindly to people poking over his land. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
But this thing's called a rab-hog. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
Now, it happened up round the top of Knocklayde | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
and it was where a rabbit and a hedgehog mated. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
And this was a strange animal. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
It had two long legs on this side, two short legs on that side | 0:17:39 | 0:17:44 | |
and, you see, that was for running round the mountain, you see. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
Because the mountain was like that - and it had to run square. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
So it had the long legs and the short legs, so it was stable. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
Well, it went all round the bar anyway | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
till they had to catch one of these things. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:00 | |
But they couldn't catch it. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
The old farmer said he caught one away after the war. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
But he said the way he did it was he went in front of it and he spun it. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
In other words, he turned it back to front and then, you see, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:18 | |
the wee short legs were down and the big long legs were up. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
And it couped over and he dived on it. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
But he said that was the only way you could catch them. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
So if ever you're down round those glens at the back of Knocklayde, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
take a look. You see if you catch one? | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
Take it to the pub, because the bounty's still there | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
and that's why you have to catch it. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
You have to find it. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
Aye, and I suppose you'll have to look for the pub, as well. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
Though there are some of you will maybe know the path to it rightly. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
Good luck to youse. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:47 | |
I'm Sarah | 0:19:07 | 0:19:08 | |
and this is Sam. He's 13, too. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
I've had him for about a year and a half. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
I'm not actually quite sure what breed he is. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
He's really good. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
He doesn't spook at anything. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
This is Roxy. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
Her and Sam aren't that very good friends. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
She leads Sam and he doesn't really like it! | 0:19:33 | 0:19:39 | |
We're getting ready for a show in Coleraine - a Working Hunters' Show. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:46 | |
I haven't done it before so this is the first time. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
The RDA Arena in Coleraine is the venue for a round of the Working | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
Hunter League that young Sarah will be entering for the first time. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
But for another young rider, Wendy Anderson, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
these jumps are more familiar. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
You get to this jump here and then you would go out around... | 0:20:08 | 0:20:14 | |
No! Around that way and then over this one. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:19 | |
Show jumping would be just like | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
a normal straight pole. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
And then in Working Hunters, you would have | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
some bushes, like the Bumblebees, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
the Chickens and the Trees and all that. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
It makes it more spookier. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:33 | |
What have you basically jumped highest? | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
The highest is a metre. What's your highest? | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
Mine is a one metre, five and I haven't jumped it in a long time. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
I'm a wee bit excited, but nervous. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
'I'm very annoyed. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
'He never usually would do that.' | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
I've been show-jumping but I've never did this before. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:14 | |
He's never did it before. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
I've never worn a jacket or a net in my hair, so it's all new. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:25 | |
It's different. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:26 | |
TANNOY: 'Special prize to Sarah and Sam, her first day at a Working Hunter Show. Well done.' | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
-Will you come back? -Yeah, hopefully. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
Yeah, I was like, "No, no, I don't want to go back" | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
because I was the same as you, I fell off at my first Working Hunter. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
And it is scary, isn't it? | 0:21:46 | 0:21:47 | |
Sarah's day might be over, but Wendy has more rounds to jump, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
watched for the very first time by her great uncle John. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
-You've never seen me jump before? -No, I have not. -OK. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:04 | |
You'd be nearly as handy getting round on that as a car or a tractor. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
We have been riding for about five and a half years. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
I call him Scooby but his name isn't Scooby Doom, it's Scooby Don't, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:21 | |
because he always does things he doesn't want to do... | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
No, no, no, no! | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
Stop that! | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
Well done, congratulations, and here's your rosette. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
Congratulations. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:39 | |
Thank you. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
Next time I'm back, you'll probably see me on a horse! | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
A World War Two jeep. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
Boys, isn't this fabulous altogether? | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
And this is of great interest to me | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
because I have a great interest in World War Two or anything | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
associated with it, because my own father was in the World War Two. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
But a World War Two jeep in a street in Bushmills? | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
There must be a reason for that! | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
And of course there is, because behind me here, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
in the Hamill Memorial Hall, there's an exhibition on | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
called Bushmills At War. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
We started off five years ago | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
and we only had a couple of tables of stuff. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
The local people came in and they thought it was brilliant. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
And they'd say, "Look I've got an old tin box out in my garden", | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
or "I've got such and such in my shed. Would you like it for your exhibition?" | 0:23:31 | 0:23:36 | |
-And that's how it started. -So you get a lot of community support? | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
A lot of community support. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
People are very proud that their loved ones, who gave their lives in the war. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:46 | |
This particular helmet belongs to the Bevin Boys | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
and not a lot of people know about them, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
but it was people who joined the army. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
If your number ended in nine, you had to go down the pits | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
and work down the mine. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
Aye, well I'm old enough to remember something about that. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
I'm not well tuned into it but I mind something about the Bevin Boys. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
That's the explanation, is it? | 0:24:05 | 0:24:06 | |
Yes, and they stayed down the mine until the end of the war. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
Glenda, you've told me something I didn't know before. Great. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
What fascinated you about this sort of stuff? | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
Well, whenever I was quite young, on a Sunday afternoon, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
I would go down and visit my great grandmother, Katy McAllister. She was from Rathlin Island. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:31 | |
And she would take out an old battered suitcase | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
and inside it she had photographs, letters, postcards. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
And she told me about her only son, Jim. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
-This is Jim here - Jim McAllister. -So Jim was in the navy? | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
He was in the navy and he joined the submarines and in 1941, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
while out on an exercise off Nova Scotia, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
the submarine he was in was rammed by a Canadian ship, by mistake. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
They thought it was a U-boat. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
So she would take out his photograph | 0:24:58 | 0:24:59 | |
and the telegram that she'd received from the War Office | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
to say that he had been killed in action and show me these photographs. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
Glenda, there's a great World War Two jeep out there | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
at the front of the door. Where did that come from? | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
That belongs to a man, Vince Cooke from Staffordshire. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
I met Vince in 2003. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
It was the 59th anniversary of the D-Day Landings. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
We have become good friends and he comes every year | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
and brings the jeep with him - and he drives up and down the town with the siren going. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
SIREN WAILS | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
Glenda's interest in World War Two grew so much | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
she decided to look into the background of all the war dead | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
from her area, starting with those named on the memorial in Bushmills. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
She has since visited the final resting place of them all. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:53 | |
To me, the research is not just going to the graveyard, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
not just finding out how they died. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
I like to get a photograph of the individual, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
find out what school he went to, what his hobbies were, | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
you know, that type of thing. Find out about his previous life. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
But you travel, I mean, it's not just the Flanders Fields you go to? | 0:26:07 | 0:26:12 | |
-No. -You travel further afield even than that? | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
Yes, I've been to the River Kwai | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
and El Alamein, where I met a couple from the South of England | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
and I went with them to Burma for the last three years, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
because we have a soldier there, James Andrew McCaughan, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
and I had the book all researched and about to go to press, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
but I hadn't been to his grave. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
And I really, really wanted to go, because I could say that | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
I'd been to all their graves and placed a poppy cross. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
Fair play to you, Glenda. I think it's a wonderful job altogether. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
It's whenever you go to the family | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
and they see their loved one commemorated, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
they're overjoyed with it. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
Well, that's near enough it for this week's Santer. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
We're going to leave you now with a dance performance | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
from the Michelle Johnston Dance School | 0:27:01 | 0:27:02 | |
and music from some very talented young musicians. Cheerio. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
BAGPIPES PLAY | 0:27:07 | 0:27:12 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 |