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MUSIC: A Mellow Bit Of Rhythm by Andy Kirk

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Bing Crosby might just have been

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the entertainment world's greatest all-rounder.

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Count box office ticket sales,

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and he's one of the five most successful actors ever.

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As for music, well, it's unlikely

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White Christmas will ever lose its spot

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as the best-selling single of all time.

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And he had a few other hits along the way.

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He won the Best Actor Academy Award in 1944 for Going My Way,

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saying, at the time, that America was the only country

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where an old broken-down crooner could win an Oscar for acting.

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Audiences loved the casual manner and light touch

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he brought to the big screen,

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especially in the seven Road To movies he made with Bob Hope.

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The pair were one of Hollywood's great double acts

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and here they are, on the BBC,

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promoting their 1962 film The Road To Hong Kong.

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Listen, tell me something.

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What's so special about YOUR performance, old boy,

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in The Road To Hong Kong?

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Well, I happen to be an actor and I can handle any role.

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Mmm-hmm, I'm sure you can, as long as there's plenty of ham in it.

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Hey, why don't you tell the folks here

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about some of the acting you do in the picture.

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I play the part of an unsuccessful variety comedian

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with a stupid cowardly disposition.

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Mmm-hmm, now tell the folks about the acting you do in the picture.

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LAUGHTER

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Listen, you crumbling como, I'm a great actor! I'm a great actor!

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I could be another Marlon Brando if I had all my teeth removed.

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-He can mumble pretty good.

-Anyhow, let's save this brawl for later.

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You're right. We're supposed to be telling everybody

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-what The Road To Hong Kong's all about.

-That's easy enough.

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You see, this is the story.

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I'm an astronaut who makes a crash landing and then I lose my memory

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and then I meet this girl who's working as a spy

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for a secret power, you see?

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Mmm-hmm, and we're double-crossed by the leader of the Third Echelon.

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Yeah, that's after we met the Grand Llama, of course,

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-but we manage to escape. Now...

-Hold it, buster, hold it.

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-Yeah, what's the matter?

-Buster, you're giving away the whole story.

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Who's going to buy tickets? Who's going to come and see the picture

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if they know what it's all about?

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-I've got a little loot in this thing too.

-You have?

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-A little lolly?

-Let's keep a modicum of secrecy.

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-A little lolly-pop.

-I've got a great idea.

-What's this?

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We'll just show you one itsy-bitsy scene from The Road To Hong Kong

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-and you can see who gives the best performance, right?

-Right.

-OK.

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-Come on, watch the threads there.

-Please, I just had this pressed.

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Hey, you guys like American pictures?

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Yeah, did you ever see any of the old Road pictures,

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like Singapore, Zanzibar and Morocco?

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-You haven't?

-Well, watch this.

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-TOGETHER:

-Patty-cake, patty-cake, baker's man

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Bake a cake as fast as you...

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-Hey, it still works!

-I guess they haven't seen The Late Late Show.

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APPLAUSE

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-Bing, I'd like to admit something.

-Yeah?

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It's eight years since the last time we were on the road together

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and I guess I have put on a few pounds here and there.

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-Yeah, a little bit.

-Especially there.

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That's spoken like a true sportsman. You know, Bob, maybe I don't hit

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quite as many of the high notes as I used to.

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But the studio say this might be the best Road movie

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we ever made together. How do you account for that?

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-I think, probably, it's teamwork.

-That's right, teamwork.

-Teamwork.

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We do a routine at the beginning of the picture

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-that really proves our point.

-Why don't we do it now?

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-In one take?

-Let's have a bash at it.

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Without the cars and everything? All right.

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# When two guys pull together, it's teamwork

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# In foul or sunny weather, it's teamwork

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# What does it take to make any business climb?

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-# You'll find it takes teamwork

-Let me have it

-Every time

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-# Incidentally, we'll have no talk of noses, it's

-Teamwork

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-# That pot's no pot of roses, it's

-Teamwork

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# Your teeth are still as bright as when they were bought

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-# Nice to have to have teamwork

-Like I thought... #

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Bing Crosby's break into acting came with a 1930 film

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called the King Of Jazz,

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in which he was part of a trio called The Rhythm Boys.

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It was a financial flop but it got Crosby noticed

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and eventually led to him appearing in several short comedies,

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directed by Mack Sennett,

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the man known in Hollywood as the master of slapstick.

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You started work for Mack Sennett, didn't you?

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Shorts. Two-reelers, they called them.

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They ran about 20 minutes, I think.

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This involves you, a piano and a lion and it's coming up.

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-Argh, argh.

-LION ROARS

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-LION ROARS

-Argh!

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-LAUGHTER

-Argh!

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LION ROARS

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Argh! Help!

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LION ROARS

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-Argh!

-LION ROARS

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-Argh!

-LION ROARS

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LAUGHTER

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LION ROARS

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LAUGHTER

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LAUGHTER

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LAUGHTER

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RANDOM PIANO NOTES

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LAUGHTER

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LOUD CRASH

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APPLAUSE

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PARKINSON CLEARS THROAT

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-Sheer artistry, huh?

-Absolutely!

-LAUGHTER

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-In fact, that's unmistakably Sennett, isn't it?

-You bet.

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-All those gags from the old silent movies.

-Oh, yeah, they were great.

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A lot of great directors came out of the Sennett school,

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the two-reel comedies - McCarey, Frank Capra, to name a couple.

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What was Sennett like to work with? How DID he work, Bing?

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If you were going to do a picture,

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they'd generally get a song or two and use that for the title

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and then they'd have a story conference and a couple of writers,

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a stenographer and Sennett and myself would sit around a room.

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He chewed tobacco and he'd have a big spittoon there and he'd...

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-HE SPITS

-..bang into the spittoon

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and we'd talk over a story

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and the stenographer would jot down some notes, what we talked about.

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I didn't do much talking cos I was just a callow youth then,

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but the writers would - how they were going to start it

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and what was going to be said

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and then the next day, we'd start to shoot.

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Never had a complete script or anything like that.

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Sennett, he'd drop the handkerchief when the scene was over

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and make an exit, you know. He'd hit the spittoon - boing!

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-Scene's over, cut.

-LAUGHTER

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Of course, at this time, at this point in your film career,

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the studios are sort of pushing you

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-as a great romantic idol, weren't they?

-Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, beating up an empty road, I'm afraid.

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What lengths did they go to to sort of change you physically?

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I remember, one time, they said my ears stuck out too far.

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I looked like a taxi with both doors open, you know.

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LAUGHTER

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So, they got the make-up man to study it and he glued them back.

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And then I looked like a whippet in full flight.

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LAUGHTER

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And the glue used to itch back there, you know.

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And in those days, they used a lot more light,

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when they were lighting a set, than they do now,

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and it was very hot on the set and that would make the glue come loose

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and they'd pop out and then it would be cut

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and back to the make-up department, big glue job again.

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So one day they popped out and I said they're going to stay out.

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By that time, I'd made a few pictures

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that were moderately successful,

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-so they let them go on that way.

-Yeah.

-Sticking out.

-Yeah.

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I remember when I first tried to get in pictures in Hollywood -

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that's when I was in the Cocoanut Grove -

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an agent took me around to see the head of 20th Century Fox studio

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and I sang a song for him and read some lines for him.

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He said, "Very good." But he said, "The ears are wingy."

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I thought he said, "The years are winging."

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I said, "Oh, I'm not that old."

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He said, "No, I don't mean that. Your ears stick out.

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"There's no way we can photograph you

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"because the ears would be such a...

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"People would right away look at the ears

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"and the scene would go down the drain."

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So he says, "I'm afraid we can't use you."

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And later on, I got signed up by Paramount and was doing very well

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and we used to go to the same church, Catholic church,

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and on the way back from communion,

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I'd pass his seat and I'd give it this, you know.

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LAUGHTER

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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What about when you made a film called The Bells Of St Mary's?

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-How was the voice then?

-I don't know. I can't remember.

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Well, let's have a reminder of it cos we've got a clip of that.

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We couldn't, of course, do the...

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You can't pick a sequence from that film

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-without doing the title song from it.

-Oh, great.

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I didn't know, until I did this programme,

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it was written for an English review in 1917.

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SHE PLAYS THE PIANO INTRODUCTION

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# Ding, dong

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# Ding, dong

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# Ding, dong, ding

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-# Oh, bells of St Mary's

-Ding, dong, ding, dong

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-# We always will love you

-Ding, dong, ding, dong

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-# With your inspiration

-Ding, dong, ding, dong

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-# We never will fail

-Ding, dong, ding, dong

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-# Your chimes will forever

-Ding, dong, ding, dong

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-# Bring sweet memories of you

-Ding, dong, ding, dong

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-# So proudly ring out

-Ding, dong, ding, dong

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-# While we sing out

-Ding, dong, ding, dong

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-# Hail, hail, hail

-Ding, dong, ding. #

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APPLAUSE

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You know, Ingrid Bergman, a great lady and a great actress,

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she's a great practical joker.

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In that picture, we had a priest on the set all the time,

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as they always did, in any religious picture,

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to see that everything was according to the proper dogma and everything.

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This priest's name was Father Devlin and he was very severe.

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We couldn't do anything.

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It was a delicate relationship - a priest and a nun.

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On the last day of shooting, there was a very sad scene

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where she knows she's not going to live much longer

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and I come to say goodbye to her and it's quite a tearful scene.

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Father Devlin was watching and everybody else.

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I didn't know this had been cooked up between Ingrid and the director.

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I finally said goodbye and she took me in her arms

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and gave me a great big wet kiss, gave me a...

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LAUGHTER

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Father Devlin fainted almost.

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LAUGHTER

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And then we went back and did the scene right.

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-And

-I

-damn near fainted. I couldn't imagine.

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-I thought she'd lost her mind!

-LAUGHTER

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Just bent me over and gave me one of those big soul jobs, you know.

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There was, in fact, in any case, some trouble about the suggestion,

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implicit in the look, in that scene, of a love relationship between...

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That's right. Father Devlin was watching it like a hawk.

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LAUGHTER

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Most people, I suppose, when they think of you,

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think automatically, as well, of Bob Hope.

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-That's to give him his polite name, isn't it?

-Oh, yes, yes.

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-It's been a great relationship.

-How did it start, that relationship?

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We were both in vaudeville and one of those times I told you about,

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he was on the bill once or twice with me.

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We were at the Capitol Theatre one time, in New York.

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He used to do an act with a young lady, a two-act.

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Oh, he was a gay one then.

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He had the straw hat and the spats and the cane.

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Have you ever seen him...? He always looks so, kind of, unflappable,

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in charge of a situation.

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Have you ever seen him embarrassed, visibly embarrassed, Mr Hope?

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Er, not very often. Once, yes, once I did, yeah.

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We'd made a picture here, at the Shepperton Studios.

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We both liked to play golf,

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so we tried to find a house in the country

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and we found a house out near Windsor somewhere.

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And the golf course was right between Shepperton

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and the house, you know, about 15 minutes to the golf course

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and another 15 home, which was an ideal setup

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because it was summer and you had those long English twilights

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and we'd finish at 5.30 or 6 o'clock,

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and we'd just whip to the golf course,

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play till dark and then home to dinner.

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So, one day, we were doing a scene.

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It was supposed to be in a harem and the villains had captured us

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and they decided to give us a soiree, a big orgy,

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with dancing girls and wine and dancing

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and everything going on, and merriment,

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because they thought they were sending us to our death

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in a moon capsule to never return.

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And Hope was stretched out on a chaise longue

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and girls were curling his hair

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and another girl was painting his toenails red

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and they were doing his nails and carrying on like that,

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and I was laying on another chaise longue

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and they were squirting the wine into me

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and they were covering us with unguents and oil

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and frankincense and myrrh, all those things.

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And we finally finished the scene.

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The director says, "Cut," and we whipped over to the golf course,

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played 13 holes, came back in the locker room at Wentworth.

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The locker rooms at British golf courses are very austere.

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They just have a bench,

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a nail to hang your sweater on or your coat on

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and a cold basin over in the corner.

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And we're sitting down and he took off his golf shoes and his socks

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and I noticed there's two British gentlemen

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sitting on the bench across from us -

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typical British country types, you know,

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with the 'stache and the tweed coats.

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I saw one of them, his eyes went to Hope's feet, you know,

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and then he turned to his companion and nudged him

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and his companion looked down and they looked at me and I...

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LAUGHTER

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And they looked down again at these red toenails

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and finally one of them said to me,

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"Mr Crosby, sir, is your friend with the ballet?"

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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He put on his shoes and socks and he went out

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and didn't say not a word, not a word.

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I don't blame him. Follow that.

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We talked about professional friendship there.

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What about the professional rivalry that was drummed up

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about you and Sinatra when Sinatra first arrived on the scene?

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-Was that rivalry real?

-Oh, no, no.

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We were very good friends and, as you say, it was drummed up,

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just to get something in the newspapers.

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I'm sure neither one of us took it as a serious rivalry.

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I admired his work and I hope to believe that he admired mine.

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We saw a lot of one another.

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He was on my radio show several times

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and I went on a couple of shows he had.

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Can I just give you a quote that he said about you once,

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he's alleged to have said about you? It's a famous one.

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It says that Sinatra said about you,

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"Crosby happens once in a lifetime. Why does it have to be MY lifetime?"

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Yeah, I've heard that. Yeah.

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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I didn't influence Frankie in any way

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and I certainly didn't halt his progress in any way

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cos he's a brilliant performer and he proved it.

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I was going to ask you what your assessment was

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-of Sinatra as a singer.

-He's a great singer.

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He creates a mood, which very few people are able to do.

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I don't think I create a mood when I sing. Nat Cole could do that.

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-Sinatra does it in a memorable way.

-Mmm.

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When he walks on, with the topcoat over his shoulders and the hat,

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and he goes into Black Magic or one of those kind of things,

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-he's created a mood right away and the audience is with him.

-Mmm.

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-Very few people can do that, that I know of.

-Mmm.

-Lena Horne can do it.

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Yes. There's a marvellous moment - well, a marvellous film,

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-High Society, you made together.

-Mmm-hmm.

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We've got, I think, the best sequence from that,

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the moment when you collided in song

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and that lovely song Well, Did You Evah.

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-Oh, yeah.

-Let's have a look at that. One of my favourites.

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# I drink to your health

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# Nah, let's drink to your wealth

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-# You're my bon ami

-Hey, that's French!

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-# Liberty

-Fraternity

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# Have you heard? It's in the stars

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# Next July, we collide with Mars

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# Well, did you evah

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# What a swell party

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# Swell party

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# Swellegant, elegant party this is. #

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APPLAUSE

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I can't think of any number that illustrates the old axiom

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that when you have somebody writing something good for you,

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a piece of material like that, it's got to be pretty good,

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if you just sing what he's written. And that was Cole Porter.

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And with a piece of material like that,

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it had to be fairly entertaining.

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It's a beautiful song but magnificently executed.

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It's absolutely perfect,

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one of my all-time favourite clips from a movie.

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Well, the material was there, Michael, you know.

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When you get something like that,

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-you really feel like rolling, you know.

-Yeah, that was great.

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As someone who had experienced huge success in both film and music,

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Bing Crosby wasn't precious about how he reached audiences.

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For years, he had radio shows and appeared in television specials

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and the mid-'60s even saw him in his own sitcom,

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called, simply, The Bing Crosby Show.

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And here he is, talking with Joan Bakewell,

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and comparing working in TV to working in film.

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Mr Crosby, this is the first time

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you've done situation comedy on television, isn't it?

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-It's true, Joan, yes.

-How do you feel about it?

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Well, it was a very enriching experience because it gave me

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an opportunity to do something different every week

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and to work with some new people.

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I won't say it was easy because the hours were long.

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You haven't got much time to waste standing around.

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We shot a film in three days.

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-We tried to average that, and we came very close to doing it.

-Yeah.

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And we started working in August and didn't get through till February.

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You did say, once, that no entertainer

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who's in everyone's home once a week, can survive for long.

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-Have you revised that opinion?

-I guess I'll have to.

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But this is just going to be for one year,

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but I think I could enlarge on that

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and say if he was in one's home once a week for SEVERAL years.

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Let's put it that way.

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Now, coming from films into television work,

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does this mean you're not going to do any more films?

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No, I'm on my way to do one now - Stagecoach, at 20th Century Fox,

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a remake of the old classic that John Ford directed.

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I think it was the picture that launched John Wayne into stardom,

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and I'm playing the bibulous doctor.

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Which do you prefer working in - the hectic television studios

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or more relaxed atmosphere of film?

0:20:140:20:16

Well, I would never want to do a series again,

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although we did have a good crew and we had a lot of fun.

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It's just too confining. You just can't think of doing anything else.

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When you're through at 7.30, 8 o'clock,

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by the time you've had dinner,

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it's bedtime because you have to get up again at 6,

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and five days a week for six months, that is a little confining.

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I think a spectacular on television -

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a big musical show, with singing and dancing stars -

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that's all right, three or four of those a year.

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And I plan to do nine Hollywood Palace shows.

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Has that come over here, the Hollywood Palace?

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It's a variety show, like Ed Sullivan. And I'll MC it.

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-That's easy. That's two or three days' work for each show.

-Mmm.

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But in a situation comedy, which is sort of acting television,

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do you find television is a different skill than films?

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Well, they settle for much less in the way of quality

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in the situation comedy on television,

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cos they don't have the time or the budget.

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Film, they take more time because they want to get the quality.

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But prices of production costs being what they are in television,

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they just can't waste time fooling around. They have to go.

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Of course, we've been seeing you - I don't know whether you know this -

0:21:230:21:26

in the Road films, which are going out on BBC television at the moment.

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-Oh.

-And this was the start, wasn't it,

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-of your famous partnership with Bob Hope?

-Well, I knew him before.

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We played theatres together in the early '30s.

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He was a stand-up monologist and I was a singer,

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-so we knew one another before that.

-Yeah.

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But that was the first time we worked together,

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was in The Road To Singapore.

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And this is where you hit on this tremendous partnership gimmick,

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-if you like to call it, of mutual insults.

-Uh-huh.

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Has it ever got out of hand?

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No, no, it's just a rib, a gentle sort of a rib.

0:22:000:22:03

We're very good friends and I have a lot of admiration for him.

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He's done tremendous things for people

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and for humanity all over the world,

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let alone the entertainment that he's provided.

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He's done so many great things in the humanitarian way,

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that I think he's an outstanding person.

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It's a pretty close-fought battle of wits in these Road films.

0:22:200:22:24

Does he always come out on top?

0:22:240:22:25

Oh, he's a little funnier, quite a bit funnier than I am -

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a little more adroit, shall we say, at the bons mots.

0:22:280:22:32

-Now, your name isn't really Bing, is it?

-Harry.

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How did the Bing come about?

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Oh, way, way back, I guess, when I was a child, there was a comic strip

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called The Bingville Bugle in our newspapers

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and there was a character named Bingo in there.

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And, somehow or other, they called me Bingo,

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and then they knocked off the "O", and now I'm Bing.

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So, it's been Bing since you were very small.

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A baby, yeah, since I was a child.

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Now, the other tab is, of course, the classic "Old Groaner" one.

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Where did that come from?

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Tommy Dorsey hung that on me, I think, the band leader.

0:23:020:23:05

-Oh, yes, that arose out of a...

-We used to work together a lot.

0:23:050:23:09

He was with Whiteman when I was with Whiteman.

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And then, later, he had his own band and I did some shows with him

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and we were very old friends

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and he hung that cognomen on me - The Old Groaner.

0:23:180:23:21

You're the sort of classic crooner,

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but where does the phrase "crooner" come from?

0:23:230:23:26

You've made that your own.

0:23:260:23:27

I think it started with Vallee, Rudy Vallee.

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He was the first one I can remember that was called a crooner.

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He sang with a megaphone, at first, in front of his band,

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and then later, with radio, with a microphone and a PA system.

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I think he was the first crooner.

0:23:400:23:43

Since you began recording, styles of singing have changed very much.

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What do you think of the modern pop idiom of singing nowadays?

0:23:480:23:52

-What do you think of the Beatles?

-I think they're very good.

0:23:520:23:56

They might change their...pace a little,

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singing different types of songs, once in a while.

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I know sometimes, programmes, they do everything just the same.

0:24:020:24:05

Somebody in there's a very talented writer,

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because they took a couple of their songs,

0:24:070:24:10

the Boston Symphony Orchestra,

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and made records of them without lyrics

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and they were very successful and they sounded very good,

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so there's a good constructionist in the group.

0:24:180:24:20

I don't know which one it is.

0:24:200:24:22

Er... I think they're very entertaining.

0:24:220:24:25

The picture they made was a big success. I don't like their hairdo!

0:24:250:24:30

-You don't?

-The barbers' union must be really disgruntled about that.

0:24:300:24:34

-Mr Crosby, will there ever be a time when you retire?

-Not completely.

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I thought of it every once in a while,

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but I go fishing for a month or go hunting for a month,

0:24:410:24:45

go travelling for a month, and it begins to get dull.

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And I wonder what's going on

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and I get the itch to get my hand back in again.

0:24:510:24:53

I don't think I could ever completely retire.

0:24:530:24:56

There'd always be something to do, I'm sure.

0:24:560:24:59

-I can play crotchety old curmudgeons or something...

-Yeah, for sure.

0:24:590:25:03

-..as I get older.

-Well, we hope you never do retire.

0:25:030:25:06

-Thank you very much indeed.

-Thank you, Joan.

0:25:060:25:08

It's been very nice to have this chat

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and have an opportunity, through you,

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to say hello to the viewers of the BBC too.

0:25:120:25:15

The Bing Crosby Show was a modest success and lasted 28 episodes.

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But audiences really wanted a big-screen Bing -

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or at least wanted to hear him talk about the good old days,

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which is what he did,

0:25:280:25:30

when he returned for another chat with Michael Parkinson, in 1975.

0:25:300:25:34

Can I talk to you now a bit about another aspect of your career,

0:25:340:25:37

which you touched on earlier, which was Hollywood?

0:25:370:25:41

In those great days of Hollywood, in the '30s,

0:25:410:25:43

what kind of place was it to be?

0:25:430:25:45

Well, working in pictures then was tremendous fun,

0:25:450:25:48

because everybody was friendly. For instance, Paramount studio,

0:25:480:25:51

they had a long line of dressing rooms, and just to name a few,

0:25:510:25:55

there'd be Freddie March, Jack Oakie, Maurice Chevalier, Bob Hope,

0:25:550:25:59

Bill Holden, Gary Cooper, Marlene Dietrich, Claudette Colbert...

0:25:590:26:03

I don't know. And James Stewart. Go on and on.

0:26:030:26:06

And every evening, after you finished work at 5 o'clock,

0:26:060:26:09

they had a big mall on the lawn and we'd sit out there and have a drink

0:26:090:26:13

and talk and discuss and go home leisurely

0:26:130:26:15

and come back the next day and have a nice day.

0:26:150:26:17

There was no drive to do it under a certain amount of days,

0:26:170:26:20

a certain amount of money. It was just fun and the directors were fun.

0:26:200:26:24

They had a lot of gags going on, local jokes and private jokes,

0:26:240:26:28

ribbing people and needling people.

0:26:280:26:30

In that field of having fun while you were working,

0:26:300:26:34

who was the actor or actress or director

0:26:340:26:36

who was most fun to work with, that you found?

0:26:360:26:38

-Billy Wilder was really great fun to work with.

-Mmm.

0:26:380:26:41

I did a picture with him with Joan Fontaine called The Emperor Waltz,

0:26:410:26:45

and he was a prankster. Blake Edwards is another.

0:26:450:26:48

-He's notorious.

-Great prankster. He does pictures with Peter Sellers,

0:26:480:26:51

and I think either one of them would work for nothing,

0:26:510:26:53

they have so much fun.

0:26:530:26:55

What about somebody that I know that you knew and liked,

0:26:550:26:58

although I never actually met, but I've seen a couple of her films

0:26:580:27:01

and she was a staggeringly beautiful woman,

0:27:010:27:03

-and that was Carole Lombard?

-Oh, priceless! A wonderful woman!

0:27:030:27:07

She was so beautiful and she could say the most outrageous thing

0:27:070:27:11

and get away with it because of her pretty face

0:27:110:27:14

-and she had a delivery that you didn't mind.

-Mmm.

0:27:140:27:16

I did a picture with her once and, in the picture,

0:27:160:27:20

the writer says they'd written a big routine with a trained bear.

0:27:200:27:24

In fact, I had to sing to the bear.

0:27:240:27:26

LAUGHTER

0:27:260:27:28

We had a director named Norman Taurog and he was a little feisty,

0:27:280:27:31

a nervous sort of director,

0:27:310:27:33

and he just hated delays and he wanted to get everything right.

0:27:330:27:36

So, they auditioned a lot of bears and...

0:27:360:27:39

-LAUGHTER

-Yeah!

0:27:390:27:41

They had trainers come by and showed them the script,

0:27:410:27:43

what the bear was supposed to do.

0:27:430:27:45

He was supposed to roller-skate and do all kinds of things.

0:27:450:27:48

And they finally selected a bear.

0:27:480:27:50

He gave the guy, like, 300 a week or something.

0:27:500:27:53

And we started working with the bear and he wouldn't do a darned thing.

0:27:530:27:56

He wouldn't do anything. He bit the trainer,

0:27:560:27:59

-he bit the assistant director and...

-LAUGHTER

0:27:590:28:02

..Taurog, the director, was going out of his mind.

0:28:020:28:04

He was going bonkers, trying to...

0:28:040:28:06

Cos we had to get these scenes, it can't drag on forever.

0:28:060:28:09

He finally sent the bear over with the assistant director.

0:28:090:28:11

"You spend a week with him on the stage."

0:28:110:28:13

And the assistant director took a club over

0:28:130:28:16

and he beat this bear on the head until he whimpered a little

0:28:160:28:20

and he'd finally do what he was supposed to do.

0:28:200:28:22

He was just a difficult bear.

0:28:220:28:23

Then they came back, they brought him back to the scene,

0:28:230:28:26

and he did...right into the same kind of conduct.

0:28:260:28:29

And, again, Taurog was out of his mind.

0:28:290:28:31

He finally scraps some scenes and scrubs some others and we got by.

0:28:310:28:35

The picture's finished and we had a big cast party, as they always do

0:28:350:28:38

after the picture finishes, on the set, and then everybody went home.

0:28:380:28:42

And Taurog arrived home.

0:28:420:28:43

Carole Lombard had bought the bear and it was tied to his front porch.

0:28:450:28:48

LAUGHTER

0:28:480:28:50

Now, you think that didn't kill him? Cos her about 500 for the day.

0:28:500:28:54

Who was, then,

0:28:540:28:56

of all this extraordinary assembly of people that you've met

0:28:560:28:59

throughout your career, who was the most talented, do you think?

0:28:590:29:02

-Judy Garland, I think.

-Really?

-In the women, surely Judy Garland.

0:29:020:29:06

-Yeah.

-For many reasons, Mike.

0:29:060:29:08

We all know she's a great singer and a wonderful dancer.

0:29:080:29:11

She can do any kind of a dance.

0:29:110:29:13

We know she's a great dramatic actress.

0:29:130:29:15

But she is the best, or was the best low comedy comedienne

0:29:150:29:18

I've ever seen.

0:29:180:29:20

I mean, baggy pants, red nose, Dutch-accent comedy.

0:29:200:29:22

She was sensational.

0:29:220:29:24

Could do Italian, anything. She got very little chance to do it.

0:29:240:29:27

We did it on radio shows.

0:29:270:29:28

I had her for 12 weeks on a radio show I had

0:29:280:29:30

and she did a lot of it then.

0:29:300:29:32

But that's a broad spectrum,

0:29:320:29:35

to be able to do all those things and look lovely,

0:29:350:29:38

sing like a bird, and get sympathy, be dramatic

0:29:380:29:42

and still be a hokey comedian, which she was.

0:29:420:29:45

But, ultimately, tragic. Couldn't pick the right fellow, could she?

0:29:450:29:48

Married all kinds of fellows. I don't know who they all were

0:29:480:29:51

but none of them pleased her or made her happy.

0:29:510:29:53

And she deserved happiness cos I had great times with her,

0:29:530:29:57

never had a moment when there was any concern.

0:29:570:29:59

She was laughing and kidding and having fun

0:29:590:30:02

-all the time I ever worked with her.

-Mmm.

0:30:020:30:04

Two years after that interview,

0:30:040:30:06

Crosby was back on these shores, still touring at the age of 73.

0:30:060:30:11

He was, famously by then, one of the wealthiest stars on the planet,

0:30:110:30:17

with a fortune estimated at over 500 million.

0:30:170:30:23

So this conversation with Vincent Hanna

0:30:230:30:25

starts with what is, perhaps, the most obvious question.

0:30:250:30:30

The thing that strikes one is why bother at all?

0:30:300:30:33

-Why do you need to do shows any more?

-Well, there's no real need.

0:30:330:30:37

I've always been an actor for over 50 years

0:30:370:30:40

and it's very hard to get out of something like that.

0:30:400:30:44

You might say I'm almost in a rut.

0:30:440:30:46

But there's a desire on the part of every actor

0:30:460:30:48

to continue to appear, to see if there's an audience for him.

0:30:480:30:52

If he's accepted, it makes you feel good.

0:30:520:30:55

I don't do enough of it to become tired or anything.

0:30:550:30:58

It's just three hours at night, and not every night.

0:30:580:31:02

That's the chief reason, I guess, just to be in action,

0:31:020:31:05

to know that there is an audience for you that'll accept you.

0:31:050:31:08

You've chosen a pretty tough way to do it.

0:31:080:31:10

You're touring around Britain,

0:31:100:31:11

you're on the stage for a long period every night.

0:31:110:31:14

There are periods when the other people are on,

0:31:140:31:16

I go and get my feet up and take a breather.

0:31:160:31:19

You've no need for money to do this, obviously.

0:31:190:31:22

No, I need a certain income. I have all kinds of obligations.

0:31:220:31:26

You're always behind with your taxes, with the government.

0:31:260:31:29

You're always a couple of years behind.

0:31:290:31:32

I've got to have an income to keep things on the status quo.

0:31:320:31:36

-How rich are you, can I ask?

-I can't say. I really wouldn't know.

0:31:360:31:39

So much is real estate.

0:31:390:31:41

We don't know whether it's worth anything, how much it IS worth.

0:31:410:31:44

These things could be valued at practically any price,

0:31:440:31:48

-you don't know.

-Are you, in fact, richer than Bob Hope?

0:31:480:31:51

Oh, no, I don't think so. He has got...

0:31:510:31:54

He started buying real estate around Hollywood in 1937, '38,

0:31:540:32:00

and at that time...

0:32:000:32:02

You know what's happened to that part of California?

0:32:020:32:05

Values have gone up tremendously.

0:32:050:32:07

Of course, he says he pays a lot of taxes,

0:32:070:32:09

and I suppose he does on all that property.

0:32:090:32:11

Who's the richest of you all, do you think, in Hollywood,

0:32:110:32:14

-of this generation?

-It's hard to say.

0:32:140:32:16

Fred MacMurray is very well-to-do.

0:32:160:32:17

He's been very canny in his investments and has had good advice.

0:32:170:32:21

Fred Astaire must be in good shape. We're all...

0:32:210:32:25

I have nothing to complain about and I'm sure Hope doesn't either,

0:32:250:32:28

but when you say, "How much are you worth?",

0:32:280:32:30

for an actor, that's hard to say

0:32:300:32:32

because he's got so many things outstanding,

0:32:320:32:34

obligations that he has to meet.

0:32:340:32:37

The thing to do is try and arrange your estate

0:32:370:32:39

so that you leave something for your children.

0:32:390:32:41

The other thing is, how do you actually last the pace?

0:32:410:32:44

I see recent reports of Elvis Presley dying of old age at 42.

0:32:440:32:49

That's a tragic, tremendous shame.

0:32:490:32:51

He got overweight, I guess, and worked very, very hard.

0:32:510:32:54

I've never read the final story of what was the matter with him.

0:32:540:32:57

Some said heart attack, a stroke, or something.

0:32:570:33:01

They said he had the insides, the arteries,

0:33:010:33:03

of a very old man when he died, and I wondered what your secret is.

0:33:030:33:06

You seem to be as young and as fresh...

0:33:060:33:08

Well, my mother and father achieved...

0:33:080:33:11

Well, my mother was 93 and my father was in his late 80s,

0:33:110:33:15

so maybe it's a family trait.

0:33:150:33:16

Maybe it's because I do get a normal amount of rest.

0:33:160:33:20

If I'm not at a dinner party or some kind of a function,

0:33:200:33:24

I'm in bed at 10.15, maybe for days on end,

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and I always get up at 7, no matter what time I go to bed.

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And lately, if time allows, I take a little nap, get my feet up.

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If it's only for 30 minutes, just lie down on your back,

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with your feet a little higher than your head

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and it revives you a little bit.

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I don't do it every day cos I don't have...

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I'm playing golf, or something, and just skip it.

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I understand you're planning to make one more Road picture

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-with Bob Hope.

-There's talk about it.

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We have a treatment, you know - a treatment, like a synopsis -

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but it hasn't been fleshed out with enough scenes

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to tell whether we want to do it.

0:33:570:33:59

What the thing needs is a lot of lunacy,

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like Monty Python and Marty Feldman

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and Mel Brooks and those guys have been using so successfully.

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-Do you watch Monty Python, things like that?

-Oh, sure, I see them all.

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I like these sketches that Hill does. What's his name? Benny Hill?

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And Dave Allen.

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Those wild sketches - it needs a lot of that kind of stuff,

0:34:180:34:21

and they're trying to fix it up.

0:34:210:34:22

You seem to be very happy in London and in Britain.

0:34:220:34:25

It's my favourite city of all the world.

0:34:250:34:27

I've been all over and this is my favourite city, London,

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and England has everything I like - the horse racing on turf,

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with lots of long-distance racing, the golf, the shooting, the people.

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There's such civility in England.

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You don't find it in any other country in the world.

0:34:390:34:42

It has an atmosphere. The cabbies are funny, everybody's funny.

0:34:420:34:46

I know you people are going through a trying time, a difficult time...

0:34:460:34:49

But you came over to cheer us up.

0:34:490:34:50

But when I come here, I'm cheered up.

0:34:500:34:52

I get a kick out of the English people. The chief...

0:34:520:34:55

If I were to describe England,

0:34:550:34:57

I'd say it's an atmosphere of civility that no other nation has.

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Three weeks after that encounter,

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the British producer Lew Grade announced

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that Crosby and Bob Hope would be reunited for one more Road To film.

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This one was going to be called Road To The Fountain Of Youth.

0:35:120:35:17

The day after Grade's news, whilst on a golf course in Spain,

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Bing Crosby died from a sudden heart attack.

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His last words? "That was a great game of golf, fellas."

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He'll be forever remembered as one of Hollywood's biggest stars -

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the singer who conquered cinema,

0:35:380:35:40

with a voice that Louis Armstrong once said sounded

0:35:400:35:43

like gold being poured out of a cup.

0:35:430:35:46

We'll end now with a clip that doesn't just showcase that voice,

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but also the humour and charm that made fans love Bing Crosby

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and, in this case, made a certain chat show host

0:35:560:36:00

feel rather special too.

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APPLAUSE

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# Hello, Parky

0:36:140:36:17

# Oh, hello, Parky

0:36:170:36:20

# It's so nice to see you back on your show again

0:36:200:36:25

# Now don't you say a single word, Parky

0:36:260:36:30

# Because it's absurd, Parky

0:36:300:36:34

# To keep yakking when we've got this backing

0:36:340:36:37

# With this fine bunch of young men

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# In London town, there's nowhere

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# I can ever go where

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# I'm as welcome as I am when I'm with you

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# So, don't you get bored, Parky

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# Listen to the folks applaud, Parky

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# You'll get your chance to talk when we're all through

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# Mr Parkinson

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# Cock your ear and hark it, son

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# The folks are glad to see you back again. #

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-There you are!

-APPLAUSE

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