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In post-war Britain, times were tough,

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and the role cinema played in boosting morale

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was never more important.

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In the 1940s and '50s, the nation was nearly bankrupt,

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and rationing would last until 1954.

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So audiences flocked to see a succession of war films

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that reflected both their own recent experiences

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and celebrated how Britain had triumphed in the face of adversity.

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Here, we're looking at the best of those great British war films.

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And we begin with Noel Coward's classic In Which We Serve,

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made during the war, in 1942, and this film is hugely important

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because, as we shall see, it was a launchpad for so many famous actors.

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Not least for Richard Attenborough, who made his big-screen debut

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playing the only sailor who deserts his post.

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Now, Richard's name was accidentally left off the credits of the film

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but Noel Coward, otherwise known as "The Master",

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made some amends for that here, praising his performance

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during this encounter at the National Film Theatre in 1971.

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My friend here...

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gave a wonderful performance.

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And, coming not too far behind, I was very good.

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It was very carefully cast and, I must say, I think

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I'm very proud of it indeed.

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It repaid...for many, many years, having known the Navy,

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and come from a naval family,

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I'd been at sea a great deal with the Navy and I wanted,

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in a way, to pay a very tiny bit of my debt back

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for all the wonderful hospitality that I'd received.

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And without Lord Mountbatten...

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..it would never have got off the floor and onto the screen.

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He had just taken over Combined Operations

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and was working like a dog and, every Sunday,

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I think I told you this, he used to work on the rushes with me,

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so that we did get it accurate.

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And, of course, with his usual extraordinary concentration...

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..he did arrange everything.

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The commander-in-chief, Portsmouth,

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lent me 200 real sailors

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every day for two weeks.

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So that all the drill, and everything, was accurate

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and not a lot of actors putting their lanyards in unorthodox places.

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LAUGHTER

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And, of course, the net result of having the authentic chaps

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doing it made it real.

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MACHINERY GRINDS AND THUMPS

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MAN SHOUTS INSTRUCTIONS

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EXPLOSION

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EXPLOSION

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All right! Shake it up!

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All right. Let's have it down there!

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EXPLOSION

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Come on! Shake it up!

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EXPLOSION

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REPEATED FIRE

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Come on, set 'em ready!

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Pick it up! That's not ready!

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KLAXON, EXPLOSION

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-Keep it up. Stop star shell.

-Stop star shell!

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Star shell, check, check, check!

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And again!

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EXPLOSIONS

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It wasn't entirely a mistake casting him for that part.

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LAUGHTER

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He practically stole the picture.

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And it was fun. Fun.

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Quite a lot of it was fun, but it was very hard work.

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But, thank God, it turned out all right.

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I'd like to tell just one very brief story about In Which We Serve.

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Towards the end of the film...

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LAUGHTER

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..we were in a Carley float and we were in a tank in the studios.

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And because we were all somewhat delicate,

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the water was heated slightly.

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We were in this tank for, I think, between two and three weeks.

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The smell was something to be wondered at.

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There was oil on the water, there was sawdust all round the tank,

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which was going mouldy, it was absolutely awful.

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It was the remains of us every day.

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And on our last day... We all used to lower ourselves,

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holding our noses, into the water, but The Master, of course, never.

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Always first in, off the edge and dived in.

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A little flat but, nevertheless, dived in.

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On this last day, he emerged from underneath the water with oil

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and filth and dirt streaming off his face

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and turned to all of us, who were waiting to go in, and said,

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"There's dysentery in every ripple."

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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John Mills had appeared in films for a decade before In Which We Serve

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but it was his role as Seaman Shorty Blake

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that really saw his career take off

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and made him one of British cinema's biggest stars.

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MACHINE-GUN FIRE

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-HE COUGHS

-Got it. I spoke too soon.

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How did they get the gunshots there?

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You were obviously in a studio,

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but how the dickens did they get machine-gun fire

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on the top of the water?

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Well, that was a bit tricky and, of course,

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it was a long time ago and special effects weren't what they are today.

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And they didn't know what to do.

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Noel said, "We can't use live ammunition,

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"he's only halfway through the film."

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They got the property master to come and, this is absolutely true,

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he went out into Denham, he went to a chemist and he bought grosses of

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what we used to call in those days, rather delicately, French letters.

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Brought them back to the studio and the special effects

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got a long steel pipe, put it under the water,

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about that far from the top, fitted these things on, one after another,

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like that, blew in compressed air, and then they got the shot.

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It really worked.

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And so I'll really go down as the only actor to have been

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shot in the arm by a contraceptive.

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It was a very good shot.

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In Which We Serve was also the first directing opportunity

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for a man who would go on to become

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a giant of world cinema.

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Oh! The great David Lean.

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Oh, yes, he started in Britain.

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We'll hear from David himself later but, for now,

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here, once again, is Noel Coward.

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Noel, what made you choose David Lean?

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Well, when I knew that I was embarked on this project...

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Up until then,

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I hadn't been profoundly impressed with British films,

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as a whole.

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And I thought, well, I'd better have a look-see.

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And so I went to a projection room

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twice a day for two weeks

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and saw every British film that was available.

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LAUGHTER

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And out of the credits

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I observed that the ones I'd liked, the cutting...

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..had been done by somebody called David Lean

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and the photography had been done by somebody called Ronald Neame

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and the general production

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had been done by Anthony Havelock-Allan.

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And so, I said, "All right, let's have a look."

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So, I asked David Lean to come and see me.

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And he said, yes, he would do it with pleasure

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but he insisted on co-directing.

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People stiffened, like a Bateman drawing.

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But I said, "Oh, please, do,"

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because I knew nothing, apart from having played a scoundrel,

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I knew nothing, really, about any of the technical side

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of making a movie.

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And, of course, it was David who directed the picture.

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I took the actors aside occasionally...

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LAUGHTER

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But he was a wonderful director.

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The director of The Dam Busters, Michael Anderson,

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also got his big break on In Which We Serve.

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He's seen here acting opposite John Mills in the role of Albert Fosdick.

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He was also working behind the camera as David Lean's assistant

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and here he is discussing how one particular scene of Lean's

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had made a huge impression upon him.

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I worked with him as his assistant very closely

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on In Which We Serve,

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and I remember, for instance,

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a scene - I was standing there when it was being shot -

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and David and Noel Coward were directing it.

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The scene in the shed when the ship had gone down

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and the men were shaking the captain by the hand and saying goodbye.

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In the script, it just read, "The men say goodbye to the captain."

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The way it was handled, it developed into a deeply moving scene,

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playing on the face of nearly every man that the audience

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had come to know throughout the story.

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And I was...

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This kind of thing, I think,

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has affected some of the moods that I've tried to create myself.

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Goodbye.

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-Goodbye, Sir.

-Goodbye, Rawlings.

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-Goodbye, Sir.

-Goodbye. Thank you.

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-Good luck, sir.

-Thanks. Goodbye.

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-Bless you, sir.

-Thank you. Goodbye.

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Goodbye, sir. It's been very nice to know you.

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Thanks, Roach. Goodbye.

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-Very best of luck, sir.

-Thanks, Moone. Goodbye.

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Goodbye, sir.

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-Goodbye, sir.

-Goodbye, Moran.

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-Goodbye.

-Goodbye, Hollett.

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-Goodbye, sir.

-Goodbye, Edgecombe.

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-Goodbye, sir. Bon voyage.

-Thanks, Brodie.

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-Goodbye, sir.

-Goodbye, Mackeridge.

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-Good luck, sir.

-Thanks, Blake. Goodbye.

-Goodbye, sir.

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And Michael Anderson goes on to talk about

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how he tried to create a similar mood in The Dam Busters.

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The men are preparing to take off for the raid

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and some are playing cricket

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and others are drinking soup from Thermos flasks

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and others are writing letters home, and it set

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the mood of the people who were about to embark upon this mission.

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And I did it all in one continuous take.

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I did it from the moment of a man catching a cricket ball

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until the final moment, when everyone is on the last truck

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and the waiting planes are mere dots in the distance.

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This is the kind of contribution, I think, that one makes.

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MURMUR OF CONVERSATION

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MUSIC: The Dam Busters March PLAYS SLOWLY

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LAUGHTER AND CONVERSATION

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JAUNTY WHISTLING

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Well, chaps. My watch says time to go.

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MUSIC SWELLS

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MUSIC: The Dam Busters March

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One of the things that came, I think,

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mainly from me, was the fact that I wanted to cast all the people

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in all the aircraft to their near physical likeness.

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In other words, I had photographs of all the crews.

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Wherever possible, I spoke to survivors,

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members of crew who'd survived.

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And I went to great trouble to try and get the people in each plane

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as near to those who took part in the raid themselves.

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This was a luxury.

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I'm sure that an audience wouldn't be aware of this fact

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but it was something that I felt was a responsibility of mine

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towards the people who were in the planes.

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I would say that what we did in Dam Busters was the forerunner

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to what became known as audience participation.

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The way the film was treated was to take the audience

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with those pilots on a bombing raid

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and to show them as much as the bombers and the pilots saw.

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We didn't attempt to show the German side at all.

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Whether this is right or wrong is another question.

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This was the point of view we took.

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And we followed it through right through to the end.

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We lead the audience to take the part of the pilot in that raid.

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This is new.

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Hutch, warn the others.

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New course, skipper. 165, magnetic.

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MUSIC: The Dam Busters March

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The real-life leader of Dambusters Squadron was

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Wing Commander Guy Gibson,

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played in the film by Richard Todd.

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Todd was also Ian Fleming's

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first choice for the role of James Bond

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before Sean Connery got the licence to kill.

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He was also a war hero,

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one of the first British soldiers to

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land in Normandy as part of Operation Overlord.

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Didn't you find it difficult or inhibiting

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to play a real and recent hero?

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Erm...

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I found it difficult.

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I find it difficult playing anything, but I'd spent

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nearly two years working up to the Guy Gibson role,

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talking to people who knew him,

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his relations and friends and chaps who had flown with him.

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Not inhibiting, because whether you create an imaginary character

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or whether you try to model yourself on a living person,

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if a character has sufficient impact and reason for being

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put on the screen at all,

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whether he's living or whether he's imaginary,

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it does presuppose the fact that it is an interesting person, you know?

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And you either try to create the interesting person or you try

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to model yourself on an existing interesting person.

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You wouldn't agree with somebody who said that a hero in fact was

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just brave, but not interesting apart from his bravery?

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Well, that's difficult to answer,

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because there are so many different types of hero. Erm...

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A lot of so-called heroic people that

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I have met are very intelligent and very interesting people

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and their bravery didn't come out of sort of derring-do so much

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as out of taking an intelligent,

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calculated risk and hoping to get away with it.

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And here is Todd talking again in a much later interview

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about the film with which he became most strongly associated.

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Brakes off!

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All the leading actors were ex-service.

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They knew how to salute and how to march and how to stand

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and how to take an order and how to give an order.

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-All set?

-Yes, sir.

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'And they knew what all those blokes must have felt during the raid.'

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Good luck.

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For added authenticity,

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grainy test footage of the bouncing bomb was added to the film.

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Whenever you saw the bouncing bomb,

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it was always as if you were seeing through a pair of binoculars.

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That explained why the quality of film was different,

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because the original film was pretty dire, pretty scratchy.

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At the time of filming,

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the famous backspin of the bombs was still a state secret,

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so each frame was painted over with a blobby circle to

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hide its true barrel shape.

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The whole ethos of The Dam Busters was, "It's a job,

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"let's get on with it," which is what it was actually like in war.

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Enemy coast ahead.

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Two years after The Dam Busters, in 1957,

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came another giant of a war film.

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David Lean's Bridge On The River Kwai,

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today considered one of the greatest epics of all time.

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It starred Alec Guinness as Lieutenant Colonel Nicholson,

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the man in charge of British soldiers in a Japanese war camp

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in Burma.

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I must call your attention, Colonel Saito,

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to Article 27 of the Geneva Convention.

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Belligerents may employ as workmen prisoners of war

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who are physically fit other than officers.

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Give me the book.

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By all means. You read English, I take it?

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-Do you read Japanese?

-I'm sorry, no.

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But if it's a matter of precise translation,

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I'm sure that can be arranged.

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You see, the code specifically states that the...

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MEN MURMUR

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Stand fast in the ranks!

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You speak to me of codes?

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What code?

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The coward's code!

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What do you know of the soldier's code, of Bushido?

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Nothing!

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You are unworthy of command!

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Despite the praise that has been heaped on the film

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ever since its release,

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Lean himself was not entirely happy with all of it.

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The cameras were taken away from me, the movie... The sound cameras.

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And I finished that film with an Aeroflex,

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which as you know is a hand camera.

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We did the waterfall scene, a whole lot of scenes,

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which gave it a size that it hadn't got before.

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Anyhow, that's that.

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What scene had you shot, then, that prompted them to say, "OK.

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"That's the end and we'll take away the cameras now"?

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Alec is blown up at the end.

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And I foolishly...

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..took a shot of James Donald, who was the doctor,

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looking around the blown-up bridge and saying, "Madness, madness..."

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And then walking away from camera. Now, as he walks away from camera,

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James was put straight onto the aeroplane, of course,

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as soon as he had said, "Madness, madness," and it was a double,

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who is like some ghastly mannequin sort of walking across the sand.

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I can't bear it. I saw the other day.

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The film won seven Oscars,

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including the Best Actor award for Alec Guinness, who here tells

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Michael Parkinson the story of how he cracked one particular scene.

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What about that famous walk in River Kwai, you mentioned

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the film there, when you'd been put in that awful isolation thing

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and you had that extraordinary staggering or lurching

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walk across the parade ground when they let you go.

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Where did that come from?

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Well, that's a sort of very personal one.

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But it's true because it shows the funny process that does

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go on with an actor, maybe.

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My son had polio when he was about 12

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and was paralysed from the waist down. He's fine now.

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He plays rugger and runs around, does whatever he wants,

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but when he was recovering and walking again a bit,

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it was obviously a very stiff, strange walk,

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and I had a little cine camera

0:23:160:23:17

and I remember, when he was first walking, taking shots of this

0:23:170:23:21

and then when one saw it on the screen,

0:23:210:23:23

my wife and I persuaded ourselves that he was fine,

0:23:230:23:25

he was walking fine,

0:23:250:23:27

but obviously deep down inside one, one thought, "Oh, Lord,

0:23:270:23:30

"he's going to limp for life,"

0:23:300:23:32

or something, you know, of that nature.

0:23:320:23:35

And years later,

0:23:350:23:38

when it came to doing that scene on the River Kwai, I found

0:23:380:23:43

myself doing the identical walk that I had on that little

0:23:430:23:48

cine camera from five, six years previously.

0:23:480:23:52

I had entirely forgotten. I didn't know I was doing it.

0:23:520:23:55

It was only when I saw myself on the screen, I thought,

0:23:550:23:58

"Where on earth did that curious, slightly lurchy,

0:23:580:24:02

"bent walk come from?"

0:24:020:24:04

-It was the same as I had on the cine camera.

-That's extraordinary.

0:24:040:24:08

Now to another film where getting the walk right was crucial.

0:24:110:24:15

It's Reach For The Sky,

0:24:150:24:17

the tale of Douglas Bader,

0:24:170:24:19

the great pilot who became a World War II hero,

0:24:190:24:23

despite having lost both legs in an earlier flying accident.

0:24:230:24:26

Douglas Bader was a one-off.

0:24:280:24:31

Originally, he was meant to be played by Richard Burton,

0:24:310:24:34

but Kenneth More lobbied hard for the part

0:24:340:24:38

and absolutely made it his own.

0:24:380:24:40

-How did you actually get inside the part of Bader?

-Well, I met Douglas.

0:24:420:24:45

I played a round of golf with him -

0:24:450:24:47

that's the way to learn about a man, you know, to play golf with him -

0:24:470:24:51

at Gleneagles, and met him

0:24:510:24:53

once or twice at dinner with Ronnie Squire, my old friend.

0:24:530:24:57

And he hated the film people. He said,

0:24:570:24:59

"I like you, Ken. You're all right.

0:24:590:25:01

"You can do it, but the rest of them can't. They're awful."

0:25:010:25:04

But I managed to sort of... I took to his character.

0:25:040:25:08

I warmed towards him and I saw what he stood for,

0:25:080:25:11

because he's really a Rudyard Kipling fellow, you know?

0:25:110:25:14

There's not many men like Douglas Bader.

0:25:140:25:17

But it seems to me that it's much,

0:25:170:25:18

much more than simply learning how to play a man with tin legs?

0:25:180:25:22

Well, you've got to learn to walk with no legs.

0:25:220:25:24

I mean, I went to the limb centre in Putney

0:25:240:25:27

and they made some artificial legs to go round my own.

0:25:270:25:30

And I remember Danny Angel telling me,

0:25:300:25:33

"You must remember that your legs weigh a ton each.

0:25:330:25:37

"Everything is painful, dragging your legs around.

0:25:370:25:40

"If you haven't got any legs, you've still got them.

0:25:400:25:42

"And you're conscious of them all the time."

0:25:420:25:45

And when you appreciate that,

0:25:450:25:47

that you cannot move this enormous weight below you,

0:25:470:25:49

you understand the part.

0:25:490:25:51

I think we ought to see a clip now.

0:25:510:25:53

It's a particularly telling scene.

0:25:530:25:55

It's in fact after you have had your aeroplane crash, as Douglas Bader,

0:25:550:25:59

and you don't in fact yet know that you've lost both legs.

0:25:590:26:02

At the age of 21.

0:26:020:26:03

Nice of you to come and see me.

0:26:030:26:06

Yes, isn't it?

0:26:060:26:07

As a matter of fact, I've come to say goodbye.

0:26:090:26:12

What?

0:26:120:26:13

I've been posted to the Middle East.

0:26:130:26:16

Oh...

0:26:160:26:17

Lucky devil.

0:26:190:26:21

I wish I was going with you.

0:26:210:26:23

HE MOANS

0:26:240:26:26

Giving you some trouble?

0:26:260:26:28

Well, it's the left one. It hurts like hell.

0:26:280:26:31

It's bound to hurt at first, I expect.

0:26:340:26:36

Well, I wish they'd cut it off, like they did the right one.

0:26:360:26:39

That doesn't hurt at all.

0:26:390:26:41

Would you really like them to cut it off?

0:26:430:26:46

I don't give a damn what they do as long as they stop it hurting.

0:26:460:26:49

Matter of fact, Douglas, they have taken it off.

0:26:510:26:55

Why does it hurt so much, then?

0:26:550:26:57

You had to know some time.

0:27:140:27:15

Yes, I suppose so.

0:27:150:27:18

Thanks for telling me, John.

0:27:180:27:20

Now, that's a very moving scene. There's a story, isn't there?

0:27:200:27:24

There is a story about that scene.

0:27:240:27:26

Just before that scene took place, the tea trolley,

0:27:260:27:28

the studio tea trolley, came around.

0:27:280:27:30

Now, on the tea trolley there were always 12 pieces of bread

0:27:300:27:33

and dripping. Only 12, never less, never more.

0:27:330:27:35

Now, 12 people wanted bread and dripping.

0:27:350:27:38

More than 12 people wanted bread and dripping, including me.

0:27:380:27:41

But you had to get in fast before everybody else grabbed it.

0:27:410:27:44

So just before the scene started, I said to my stand-in,

0:27:440:27:46

Jack Mandeville, "Get me a piece of bread and dripping!"

0:27:460:27:49

So we played the scene and I really rose to the occasion

0:27:490:27:52

and I had them all crying and I was crying myself.

0:27:520:27:54

You couldn't hear a pin drop in the studio.

0:27:540:27:58

And immediately Lewis Gilbert who directed the film said, "Cut."

0:27:580:28:03

And everybody was going, "Oh, my God..."

0:28:030:28:06

I said, "Jack! Did you get my piece of bread and dripping?"

0:28:060:28:10

Reach For The Sky was Britain's biggest box office hit

0:28:110:28:15

for 1956.

0:28:150:28:16

In fact, it was the most successful film in Britain

0:28:180:28:21

since Gone With The Wind.

0:28:210:28:23

So what was it like for the film's subject?

0:28:240:28:27

Here is the man himself, Douglas Bader,

0:28:270:28:30

talking to Dennis Tooie in 1965.

0:28:300:28:33

What was your general reaction to Reach For The Sky? I know,

0:28:360:28:40

in fact, you never saw the film publicly,

0:28:400:28:42

but I gather you did see, it or most of it, before it was released?

0:28:420:28:44

Yes, I did. Well, actually, it was...

0:28:440:28:47

It's a very difficult thing to answer, that,

0:28:470:28:49

because the producer of the film,

0:28:490:28:51

a chap called Daniel Angel, for whom I have the greatest possible regard,

0:28:510:28:55

he was in the Army in the war and he got polio in India,

0:28:550:28:58

fighting out there, and he's paralysed from the waist down.

0:28:580:29:01

He's a very good chap

0:29:010:29:02

and we had the most monumental arguments about the script

0:29:020:29:05

and so on and, of course, the difficulty of looking

0:29:050:29:08

at a film about yourself, whether it is you or me or whoever it is,

0:29:080:29:11

and your past, is that you see...it's unreal.

0:29:110:29:15

You see, for instance, scenes you recognise,

0:29:150:29:19

words you recollect, and people are saying things

0:29:190:29:25

and you recognise it all, but it's being said by strangers.

0:29:250:29:28

Your wife is some girl you've never seen before in your life.

0:29:280:29:33

You are depicted by Kenneth More or whoever it is, you know, and

0:29:330:29:38

so you can't understand it anyhow, but the whole thing is unreal.

0:29:380:29:42

You cannot see it objectively.

0:29:420:29:45

Did Kenneth More in fact consult much with you about the part?

0:29:450:29:48

No. Kenneth More was very, very wise about this,

0:29:480:29:51

certainly afterwards. He saw me once.

0:29:510:29:54

We met at lunchtime, when he said he'd do the part, you know,

0:29:540:29:57

and then he played a round of golf with me

0:29:570:30:00

because he wanted to see what happened on the golf course.

0:30:000:30:02

And he never saw me again

0:30:020:30:05

until the film had been finished

0:30:050:30:07

because he said - and of course he was quite right - he said, "Look,

0:30:070:30:09

"if I live with you..." A lot of people said to me,

0:30:090:30:11

"I suppose Kenneth More has lived with you for weeks,

0:30:110:30:14

"because he's so frightfully good. He took you off so marvellously."

0:30:140:30:18

And the answer was, as Kenneth said,

0:30:180:30:20

"If I am against you all the time I shall caricature you."

0:30:200:30:24

And he was absolutely right.

0:30:240:30:27

We were talking about how you felt about the film.

0:30:270:30:29

How did people close to you, your friends and your wife...?

0:30:290:30:32

Well, my friends - and these are the people who matter in life,

0:30:320:30:36

obviously - my friends said it was frightfully good

0:30:360:30:38

and my wife slipped off to the local one evening, you know,

0:30:380:30:42

several weeks after it had been shown, and she came back and said,

0:30:420:30:45

"It was absolutely uncanny the way that Kenneth More has got you.

0:30:450:30:50

"He's quite extraordinary."

0:30:500:30:52

Now, that's from your wife.

0:30:520:30:54

I mean, I've been keeping the woman for 30-odd years now

0:30:540:30:57

and she really must know!

0:30:570:30:59

The director of Reach For The Sky was Lewis Gilbert.

0:31:040:31:07

I've had the privilege to work for him a couple of times myself.

0:31:070:31:11

He also made Alfie, Educating Rita, Shirley Valentine, oh,

0:31:110:31:17

and three James Bond films.

0:31:170:31:19

Did you enjoy making Reach For The Sky with Kenneth More?

0:31:210:31:23

Yeah, I loved Kenneth More.

0:31:230:31:26

And it was very interesting with Douglas Bader,

0:31:260:31:28

but Bader, who was a great man, lost his legs when he was about 21,

0:31:280:31:32

learned to walk, and rejoined the Air Force with no legs.

0:31:320:31:37

I mean, he was an amazing character.

0:31:370:31:39

But he was very difficult. I mean, really difficult.

0:31:390:31:42

And I suppose...

0:31:420:31:44

-In what way?

-Well, in many ways.

0:31:440:31:48

Well, for instance, he said to me,

0:31:480:31:51

"Well, Gilbert, you were in the Air Force.

0:31:510:31:53

"Why don't you write the script?"

0:31:530:31:56

And I did and then he said to me,

0:31:560:31:58

"Well, you've left out all my friends," and I said,

0:31:580:32:00

"Well, the book is 600 pages and there's 500 people.

0:32:000:32:03

"We obviously have to leave some out," and he said,

0:32:030:32:06

"Well, that's your problem.

0:32:060:32:08

"You've got to put my friends back in.

0:32:080:32:10

"And if you don't, I won't help you

0:32:100:32:12

-"and I won't be doubling for Kenneth More."

-Oh, goodness.

0:32:120:32:14

And I'd had enough of that so I said to him,

0:32:140:32:17

"Well, Douglas,

0:32:170:32:19

"if we can make an ape climb up the Empire State Building

0:32:190:32:23

"in King Kong, I daresay we can find

0:32:230:32:24

"somebody to double for you without legs."

0:32:240:32:26

-Which we did.

-Tough talking.

-That's what happened, yes.

0:32:260:32:30

Reach For The Sky wasn't the only story of a real-life war hero

0:32:320:32:37

that Lewis Gilbert directed.

0:32:370:32:39

Two years later, in 1958,

0:32:390:32:42

he made Carve Her Name With Pride,

0:32:420:32:46

starring Virginia McKenna.

0:32:460:32:49

This was the powerful and harrowing true story of Violette Szabo,

0:32:490:32:54

a British spy who bravely worked behind enemy lines.

0:32:540:32:58

I don't think I really did look like Violette very much.

0:33:010:33:04

First of all, she was dark and I was fair, and they didn't want me

0:33:040:33:08

to change the colour of my hair. They said it was fine as it was.

0:33:080:33:11

It was more the essence, really, of the character they wanted,

0:33:110:33:14

more than someone who looked the same.

0:33:140:33:17

Tres bien. Merci, bonsoir.

0:33:170:33:19

Virginia was wonderful in that film,

0:33:190:33:22

but she wasn't naturally that kind of character, because she's

0:33:220:33:25

very quiet and very laid back, and it was a great difficulty for her

0:33:250:33:30

to be running round with a machine gun and being a wartime heroine.

0:33:300:33:34

The film's most moving scene comes at the end

0:33:420:33:46

where, despite being tortured,

0:33:460:33:49

Violette refuses to betray her comrades.

0:33:490:33:53

We had to walk out and down a path to a barren square,

0:33:540:34:01

where there was a line of men with guns.

0:34:010:34:04

We were asked to stand in a row.

0:34:050:34:08

And that's where we were executed.

0:34:080:34:12

The three British agents - Denise Bloch, Lillian Rolfe,

0:34:120:34:17

and Violette Szabo - are to be shot.

0:34:170:34:21

I'd had a message that they would like me, just before I was shot...

0:34:210:34:26

..to have a little half smile on my face.

0:34:280:34:31

And I said to Lewis, "I can't. I absolutely can't."

0:34:330:34:37

It was so ludicrous to me to have been asked to do that

0:34:390:34:43

and then he, thank God, absolutely understood

0:34:430:34:47

what I meant. So I didn't have to smile.

0:34:470:34:51

Fire!

0:34:570:34:59

GUNFIRE CONTINUES

0:34:590:35:02

Carve Her Name With Pride was unusual for

0:35:050:35:08

focusing on a female character's war experiences.

0:35:080:35:12

In 1958, I benefited from another prominent female role.

0:35:120:35:16

A wartime nurse, sister Diana Murdoch, in Ice Cold In Alex,

0:35:180:35:23

now considered one of the most important films of the period.

0:35:230:35:27

It tells the story of a dangerous trek across the desert

0:35:280:35:33

by a small band trying to reach the safety

0:35:330:35:35

of the British base in Alexandria.

0:35:350:35:38

It was shot over several gruelling but unforgettable weeks in Libya.

0:35:390:35:43

The days were boiling, the nights were freezing,

0:35:430:35:47

and the wind blew sand everywhere.

0:35:470:35:50

The film's most famous scene of all comes at the climax, when we've

0:35:510:35:56

reached Alex, and we've reached the ice-cold lager that's been

0:35:560:36:01

Captain Anson's incentive throughout the punishing journey.

0:36:010:36:05

We had to use real lager, as no imitation had the right look.

0:36:050:36:11

And John Mills was the only one of us

0:36:110:36:14

who could glug the whole glass down in one.

0:36:140:36:18

Worth waiting for.

0:36:230:36:26

Ice Cold In Alex was a success everywhere,

0:36:260:36:30

even winning one of the top prizes at the 1958 Berlin Film Festival.

0:36:300:36:34

Looking back on it today,

0:36:350:36:37

one of the most interesting features is its sympathetic portrayal

0:36:370:36:41

of one of the enemy - very unusual for British films both then and now.

0:36:410:36:47

Anthony Quayle's character, Van der Poel, is discovered to be

0:36:490:36:53

a German spy.

0:36:530:36:55

But despite that revelation,

0:36:550:36:57

a growing respect develops between him and Captain Anson.

0:36:570:37:02

One key scene shows Anson rescuing Van der Poel

0:37:040:37:07

when he gets caught in quicksand.

0:37:070:37:10

This was actually shot at Elstree Studios rather than the desert.

0:37:130:37:17

But the sludge was an awful mixture

0:37:170:37:22

made by the effects team, and when

0:37:220:37:25

it came to filming, it was so cold

0:37:250:37:27

that ice had formed on the top of it.

0:37:270:37:29

Poor Anthony Quayle.

0:37:480:37:50

If that wasn't bad enough,

0:37:500:37:53

his character had to wear very short shorts.

0:37:530:37:56

And of course, that wasn't the only flesh on display.

0:37:570:38:00

The film includes a love scene between my character

0:38:020:38:05

and Captain Anson that made headlines

0:38:050:38:08

and had to be re-shot after protests from the censors.

0:38:080:38:12

I had this tremendous romance, big scene,

0:38:120:38:15

didn't I, with Sylvia Syms? And think how things have changed.

0:38:150:38:19

I mean, we were rolling about in the sand and I think it was Lee Thompson

0:38:190:38:24

said, "You know, well, it's a good scene,

0:38:240:38:28

"a quite passionate scene."

0:38:280:38:30

He said to Sylvia Syms, "Why don't you undo two buttons on your shirt?"

0:38:300:38:34

So she said, "OK," so she undid them.

0:38:340:38:37

And I think that didn't get through.

0:38:370:38:39

I think it was too much that two buttons were undone

0:38:390:38:42

and only open about down to here.

0:38:420:38:44

-So it's changed slightly, hasn't it?

-A little bit.

0:38:440:38:46

Actually, looking at stills,

0:38:460:38:48

-it's a little more than two buttons as well.

-Is it?

0:38:480:38:51

But, nevertheless, the point is taken.

0:38:510:38:53

Maybe the stills... Sneaked the stills through.

0:38:530:38:55

I think you don't understand women.

0:38:570:38:59

I don't.

0:39:030:39:05

She'll know what she wants.

0:39:050:39:07

It's poor. Nothing you do will make the slightest difference.

0:39:080:39:12

It's you.

0:39:130:39:15

I think you should know by now.

0:39:150:39:17

And I thought we rolled around rather well in Ice Cold In Alex

0:39:180:39:22

and it was too daring and it was cut out.

0:39:220:39:26

And that was the only really sort of violently exciting love scene

0:39:260:39:30

I've ever had.

0:39:300:39:32

What were my memories of the scene?

0:39:330:39:36

Well, it was very uncomfortable,

0:39:360:39:40

and the sand got everywhere.

0:39:400:39:43

The 1960s saw more successful war films, of course,

0:39:460:39:49

like The Great Escape and The Longest Day,

0:39:490:39:53

but generally, audiences tastes were moving on.

0:39:530:39:56

Rather as the Western was falling out of favour in America,

0:39:560:40:00

so here in Britain we were making fewer war films.

0:40:000:40:04

But the influence of those that we made in the 1940s

0:40:040:40:08

and '50s extend to present-day filmmaking.

0:40:080:40:13

The Dam Busters dogfight scenes were used as a template by

0:40:130:40:17

George Lucas for the space battles in the original Star Wars film.

0:40:170:40:22

And Steven Spielberg was hugely aware of the films made

0:40:220:40:26

here in Britain when he was directing Saving Private Ryan,

0:40:260:40:30

which was praised for its realistic depiction of the D-Day landings.

0:40:300:40:36

Oh, yes. Here he is talking to Mark Cousins about the film in 1998.

0:40:360:40:43

Could you tell me some of the more unusual things that you did with

0:40:430:40:46

camera and sound in order to effect this shellshock in the audience?

0:40:460:40:51

I did a lot of things like de-saturate the colour.

0:40:510:40:55

The film is in colour but the film is very faded,

0:40:550:40:58

so the film looks authentically period,

0:40:580:41:01

it looks like a 1940s colour picture

0:41:010:41:04

would have looked 50 or 54 years later.

0:41:040:41:08

I shot with a 45- and 90-degree camera shutter.

0:41:080:41:12

What that does is it de-glamorises sequences by getting

0:41:120:41:16

rid of all out-of-focus blurring.

0:41:160:41:18

Often, when somebody runs through frame it's kind of beautiful

0:41:180:41:21

because they kind of streak and they blur.

0:41:210:41:24

Not every frame is in focus.

0:41:240:41:25

If you look at every frame one at a time

0:41:250:41:27

on a film you see that only several frames are in focus.

0:41:270:41:30

Most of it's out of focus.

0:41:300:41:32

When you shoot with a 45-degree shutter, every single frame,

0:41:320:41:35

24 frames per second, is in focus, which means that that,

0:41:350:41:38

coupled with my vibrating camera,

0:41:380:41:40

I had a vibrating lens called a shaker lens

0:41:400:41:43

on top of our other lenses,

0:41:430:41:45

and I could press a button electrically and create a shake in

0:41:450:41:47

the lens and take my finger off the button and the shaking would stop.

0:41:470:41:50

All those things made the film nervous to look at,

0:41:500:41:54

which is exactly the kind of fear that the soldiers were

0:41:540:41:57

feeling inside of themselves.

0:41:570:41:59

All I can do here is die. Covering fire.

0:41:590:42:02

Were you aiming to be more brutal than anything that went before?

0:42:040:42:09

Well, that's not really for me to say.

0:42:090:42:11

That wasn't my original intention,

0:42:110:42:13

just to be brutal for brutality's sake.

0:42:130:42:15

I wasn't trying to do that.

0:42:150:42:17

I was simply trying to show war like it was, and like it is.

0:42:170:42:20

And like I said before,

0:42:200:42:22

I've read a lot of testimonies from veterans of that war

0:42:220:42:26

and seen documentaries and talked to them in person

0:42:260:42:29

and they all said, "There were two wars fought - there was our war,

0:42:290:42:32

"and there was Hollywood's war.

0:42:320:42:34

"Can you find it in your heart to tell the story of our war?"

0:42:340:42:38

And when they said that to me, I was an instant convert.

0:42:380:42:41

I said, "Yes, I will tell the story of your war.

0:42:410:42:45

"I'll try to be as conventional to your experience and unconventional,

0:42:450:42:49

"therefore, to the American Hollywood experience

0:42:490:42:52

"as I possibly can be,"

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and sure, there's all sorts of conventionality throughout

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part of my movie, but I try to be as conventional to a real-life war

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as I possibly could be.

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All the films we've examined in this programme share that same ambition,

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to reflect the reality of war.

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It's one of the reasons we always value them,

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with their heroes personifying courage,

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starring actors who lived through the fighting themselves.

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They are stirring tales

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that touched everybody at the time,

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and patriotic reminders of how pulling together can

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result in victory.

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No wonder they still resonate with us so strongly...even today.

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