A Reformed Character? The Fred Dibnah Story


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It's goin'. Goin'!

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HONKING

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Done for!

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Do you like that?

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Looking back on it, Fred Dibnah, the Bolton steeplejack,

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reckoned the time after his divorce the worst in his life.

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Livin' here alone weren't much fun.

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I'd go home, put my pie in the oven, put the kettle on, watch the news

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and try and keep the time for going to the pub as late as possible.

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Usually, somewhere around eight o'clock,

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I'd roll down the pub and join the other divorced characters.

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I realised you couldn't go on like that for ever

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or you'd become just another bloke who props the bar up,

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with not a lot to show for your life on this planet.

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-Then, Sue arrived...

-Hi.

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..a social worker, ready to take an intelligent interest in Fred's steam workshop.

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-This is my mechanical hammer.

-CLANKING

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-Wow!

-When in doubt...

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And here, we have drills.

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CLANKING DROWNS SPEECH

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This is my wonderful steam-engine thing.

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It's a bit mucked up at present. I've not cleaned it for months.

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Yeah, come on...

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I first met Fred at a big steam rally in Cheshire.

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It was in the middle of all the divorce problems and everything,

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and Fred was, in fact, VERY drunk.

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He looked awful. He was sad and miserable...

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quite a pathetic sort of figure.

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None of the bounce people knew him for.

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He invited us to a chimney felling and it was the one at Oldham -

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the one that he nearly brought down on the top of all of us.

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Didn't you work your camera?

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Well done! Congratulations!

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Shortly after that, a friend rang me and asked me

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if I'd like to go out with him to give him some support,

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because he was going to Halifax to talk to the Fred Dibnah Appreciation Society.

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When we arrived at this pub, there were lots of men similar to Fred -

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all wearing flat caps and smoking Woodbines.

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I remember waking up in the middle of the night to a terrible row.

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Everybody had been hopelessly drunk. The landlord and landlady were throwing things at each other.

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The projectiles were going through windows!

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It sounded like there were a war on. When we got up, all the windows were broke. I'll never forget that.

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They married. And in 1987, their first son was born.

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Having learned, like, that my new wife were pregnant,

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the first worry were, would I be a proper father, as you might say.

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Anyway, little Jack plopped out. Beautiful, you know, in good nick!

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He's an exciting feller who likes almost everything I do.

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-I can't do it, Da-ad.

-You can't do it, Fred? Oh, right, where do you want to go now?

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This vicar friend of mine at Kirkby Malham,

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he had a problem with his flagpole.

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We went over to fix him up a new flagpole. While we were there, he said, "What about a weathercock?"

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OK, we'll make you a weathercock if you christen the little lad

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in his 800-year-old font which, of course, he did.

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While there, we were also fixing a lightning conductor.

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As we were digging for the earthing strip, we dug up somebody's bones!

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So we had a reinterment ceremony.

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I don't know who he were. Oliver Cromwell had been there so it's an old church.

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SUE: Fred had some really bad traits when I first met him.

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He was terribly self-centred and thoughtless.

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A silly example is, he would go to the pub and we'd be with some people

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and he wouldn't buy a round.

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He was SO busy talking about himself that he wouldn't get his money out.

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I felt so angry with him.

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Other things that upset me - because I could see they were damaging -

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were his bad habits of drinking and smoking.

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And, em...I eventually persuaded him to cut down on his smoking

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and of his own free will, he said, "I'm going to give up."

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To encourage him, I got him presents every day that he didn't smoke.

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Then, I'd a relapse. I went to look at a chimney stack at Great Harwood.

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The demolition man came up and he'd got two in his mouth and an American flame-thrower lighter.

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He lit 'em and before I knew it, I'd the thing in between me lips.

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I thought, "I might as well smoke the damned thing. This is definitely my last."

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When I got home at tea time, I said to Sue, "I've had a smoke today."

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I explained the tale. Ooh, very upset!

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I've never had a cigarette since.

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I think I'm a slightly reformed character from what I was.

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-Look at these swanky gates! Aren't they posh?

-Yeah, aren't they nice?

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-Beautiful!

-He's makin' it all into, uh...yuppie houses, you see.

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The chimney's round the back.

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How tall is it?

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We worked it out yesterday, me and Donald...sorry, me and Neil.

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-It's about 100ft high, I think.

-Look at the lightning conductor.

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Stick it in that corner there and then we'll go and do the honours.

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You get up the hill wi' Jack.

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That's it. Right, we have it.

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Now, you get up the hill and leave it to us.

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Jack, look at those cows over there.

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What'll they think when the chimney falls down? They'll be surprised.

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Look, they're looking at the fire.

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I want to smoke for the last time, John.

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We went to the first chimney when he was about 18 months old,

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the first chimney that he really knew what was happening,

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and he watched the chimney fall down and as it hit the ground, he said,

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"It's all gone!" and started crying.

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We went home and we had a few people, and one of them had a video camera

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and we ran the video back onto the television and he was SO upset.

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Fred was so proud. He said, "He's like me. He hates destruction."

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OH!

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Oh, Jack.

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Didn't have time to blow the hooter.

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It fell in December, in the blizzard.

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Fortunately, it went straight into a snowdrift at the foot of the tower.

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-It had a lucky escape, then.

-It was.

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It's a bit out of shape,

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-but nobody will notice that up there.

-No.

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Right, I'll send a rope down after.

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Cock-a-doodle. Shout it. It's red!

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-Hello, there!

-JACK: Cock-a-doodle!

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Cock-a-doodle! Cock-a-doodle! Cock-a-doodle!

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-Come on, Roger!

-A second son, Roger, was born in 1991,

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letting Fred in for another year or two of morning marches to the nursery.

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It doesn't bother me, shoving this pleasant, little chap about.

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He never complains.

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He only ever cries when he's hungry which is a natural thing to do.

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He's similar to what I were when I were little - a pleasant fellow.

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Just went off later on in life!

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I'm sometimes taken as the grandad.

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That's a bit embarrassing when they say, "Are they your grandchildren?"

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Are they buggery. They're mine.

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I'm in good condition - of breedable quality.

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-Now, then, here he is.

-Hello, Roger.

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-I'm not sure if he'll want to stay.

-He will! ..Are you going to play?

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Your mam's coming at tea time.

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I'm off before he starts squeaking.

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It's a long time since Fred himself went to school in the ragged 1940s.

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The war was on, food rationed,

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everything wearing out - a cold and dreary time -

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but warmed for ever in Fred's memory by a gift from an old man -

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a beautiful, model steam-engine.

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One Sunday, I remember having it in the parlour on a card table.

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It were whizzing round and in an attempt to get more power out of it,

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I wedged on the safety valves a die-cast, Dinky toy car

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that had the effect of holding the dead-weight safety valve down.

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It was going like a bat out of hell.

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Mother and Father were listening to the Albert Sandler's Palm Court Hotel. It's 8.30pm, Sunday night.

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Bloody great bang and the Dinky toy blasted off up into the sky

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and stuck in the ceiling, followed by a big plume of boiling water.

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All the globules of water dripping off the ceiling onto the couch,

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and the best, shiny, parlour table.

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I didn't wait long before Mother arrived and a great bollocking for mucking up the ceiling.

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We had a patch on there for years after - a little piece of paper stuck over the dinge in the plaster.

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An introduction to me and the steam-engine.

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-Whereabouts do you come from?

-I'm coming from Germany.

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Now in his mid-50s, Fred had become a man of some fame

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and his workshop, a place of pilgrimage.

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I was lucky to find two steam rollers. I've got a Rutmeyer and a Zetmeyer.

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Have you had to spend a lot of money?

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Not a lot of money. It was very cheap to buy compared to English prices here.

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-It's expensive.

-They've gone a bit daft.

-Yes.

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I only gave 170 quid for that one,

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but it's 20-odd years ago.

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Aye, now, they've gone berserk.

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It's becoming some sort of tourist attraction, this here garden.

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You know, we get all sorts of people round,

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you know, coming to have a look.

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A few weeks ago, we had some American visitors

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who professed to be American steeplejacks.

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They set bloody fire to the parlour carpet.

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They brought their video company with them to do this interview

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of the Americans interviewing me as an English, sort-of-eccentric, steeplejack

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and, of course, all their tattle were a different voltage than ours.

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They're supposed to have an adapter.

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They plugged this gubbage into my electrical system and we'd been at it for half an hour,

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when suddenly, there were the most unbelievable explosion and the bloody carpet's on fire!

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We did well out of that. We got a new carpet.

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-< What did your family think of your job?

-Mother didn't like it.

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She wanted me to work in an office.

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-Next question?

-Right...

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What part of your job do you enjoy best?

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..Putting the ladders up, I think.

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Putting them red ladders up the side.

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..What are you doing with Gilnow Mill?

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Oh, well, in the very olden days, before your school were even built,

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there were two big chimneys where your school were.

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And it's a rather exciting story.

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I sort of knocked the wrong one down.

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You start on that side, there's a good lad.

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You'll have to rub harder than that, Jack.

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Jack was now four and making progress in his education.

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-Dad?

-What?

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-I see some sign of rust!

-No rust? That's very good, Jack.

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I see some sign of rust!

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Jack's a damned nuisance round here.

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In his way, he's trying to give me a lift,

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but if I put the spanner down, it disappears round the corner.

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All sorts of weird things happen.

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You know he's had it. But he's got such a good memory.

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If you knew he'd had it last weekend...it's amazing...

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and if you say, "Where's that big lump of iron with three holes in?"

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he'll go straight to it and find it.

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One fault, though, is he likes digging holes,

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especially if it's raining, there's bloody holes all over full of water.

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He's a frustrated coal miner.

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WHISTLE BLOWS

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Hey, that were all right.

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Fred's actually succumbed to a bit of, em...domesticity?

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Is that the right word?

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Em...if I ask him to hoover, he makes a super job of it.

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He does much better than I do,

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and because he's a perfectionist, things like that are very good.

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The brass work's his responsibility.

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And window cleaning! I never, ever clean windows.

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He loves twinkly windows.

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Things I wouldn't ask him to do...

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I wouldn't ask him to change the baby's nappy

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because Roger wouldn't like to be stood on his head, which is how Fred would do the job.

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Some things have changed, you know? I've got a more up-market wardrobe.

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Instead of one suit and a waistcoat, and various pairs of jeans,

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I've now got a grand selection of pullovers and cardigans

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and two pairs of shoes and various caps for doing various things in -

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appearing in public in posh caps and going to work in dirty caps.

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I have a wash more now than I used to. I have a shower every night!

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Years ago, way before I was married,

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I would have expected my husband to do more than Fred does in the house,

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but I never envisaged the sort of lifestyle that I'm leading now.

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The general consensus about this sort of sharing things in the home,

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I think, doesn't really hold for much when a person like Fred,

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who is doing a very hard job, comes home cold and wet.

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You know, he's been out really grafting hard all day.

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Sometimes he'll come home and he'll have busted his thumb with a hammer.

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You couldn't expect him to come in and then start doing housework.

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I just don't think it's fair.

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You've got to strike a balance. Ours is about 90-10.

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Me for 90% housework and Fred for 10.

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-All right?

-Good morning.

-Everything OK?

-Not so bad.

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We've got the ironwork up and all them iron rods and the castings will stop any cracks getting worse.

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How long will it be before you finish?

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Give it a fortnight cos we need the ladders. We're off to Cambridge.

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Movin' on! Fred Dibnah International! We get about a bit!

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HE HUMS

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You're not doing it right. Just a minute.

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Basically, I'm like a Victorian.

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This feministic outlook, I don't think you can escape from it,

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but the Victorians... There were more of them sort of working for a living then, than what there is now.

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The lady's place was to be at home getting the tea ready.

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Now, half of them buggers come home and they have to get their own tea.

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All these, "I've just come home from the office, darling.

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"Your tea's in the oven. I'm going out to the bingo."

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You know, it's a weird situation now.

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It's a bit like the end of the Roman Empire, innit?

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They all either turned homosexual and went queer,

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and went into a great nation of pleasure seeking

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after they retracted back to Rome from all over the world.

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They learned us how to have baths and underwater floor heating.

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Then, they went bloody mad and now they make racing cars and washing machines. It's the end of the road.

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We've had OUR day. I don't want to seem a die-hard type of person,

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but if you think about England, you know,

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the perfecting of the steam-engine in 17-odds, early 1800s,

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made England lead the world in engineering

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from about 1790-odd to about 1914,

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and I think ever since then, we've been going a bit down-brew.

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You're cutting all the prickly tree! Yes, I'm cutting the prickly tree.

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SUE: Do you know you've to sing?

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What do we sing? I don't know. Course you know, Reddy.

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# Happy birthday to you... # BABY GARGLES

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-He's singing!

-# Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday, dear Daddy,

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# Happy birthday to you. #

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-Blow the candle out first. Blow it out.

-Oh, right.

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-Do you feel a lot older today, now you're 54?

-It's better than being 55.

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-BABY SHOUTS

-You, shut up.

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I really think this is you!

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-Like a...

-It's bloody...

-It's like a dress!

-No way I'm wearing that.

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No, no, no.

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I don't want one. It's not my style.

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-Look, some nice ties!

-Leave it there. It looks like a bilious attack. I don't want any of them.

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Oh, just your colours!

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-Oh! Very nice, very modern.

-No, no, I don't want...

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How about, em...

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Look at that!

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I'll stick to long johns, I think.

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-Right, come on.

-Where's the jackets department?

-Let's look over here.

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-Look at these.

-They're all too light a colour.

-I like that one.

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-Yeah, if it were dark blue.

-Yeah...

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-Can I help you, sir?

-I'm not looking. My wife's looking for a jacket.

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A sports jacket. It needs to have some blues in it.

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About a 42-44 chest. 44.

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-It's slipped down a bit.

-The best thing we can do, if you don't mind,

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is slip your jumper off and we'll try a couple on you.

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-Just pop this one on.

-I'll put my cap back on.

-Turquoise and black.

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< I don't think it's appropriate to keep your cap on!

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It' OK. We get all sorts in here. < Oh, Fred!

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Does that feel comfortable?

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It's all right but it's too long. I'm glowing like a Belisha beacon.

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-It's gotta be very dark.

-More sober. The check's a bit loud.

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-It wouldn't last five minutes, this.

-No.

-A bit thick of stuff as well.

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The problem is, now you're coming into summer, everything's lighter -

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colour and weight, you see?

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-I'm very

-old-fashioned. I'd noticed but I didn't like to say anything.

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FRED LAUGHS

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Let's have a look at some caps. Here you are.

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..Here you are. Take that dirty one off.

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That's it.

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-Let's have a look.

-It's too big, that, you know?

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I rather like my oily cap. It has a smell all of its own.

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I've been in pubs and people have said,

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"What's the flash point of your cap?" You know?

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When I'm doing some blacksmithing,

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occasionally, I take it off and I get hold of some hot iron

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and it sets on fire, you know! There so much oil in it!

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I think it's really a replacement for hair.

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If I go on holiday without my cap,

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I feel as though somebody's shaved all the top of me head.

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On occasions, I've been so inebriated after days out with this load of old iron,

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I've ended up in bed with it on.

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One day, at work, Fred's cherished cap rounded on him. It was like being savaged by a trusted dog.

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I've had a bad do with me head.

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I came out in red blotches the day before yesterday.

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Me and the wife were in the building society, withdrawing £2,000 to pay the income tax.

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I don't know if it were the shock of getting the money out or what,

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but I come over faint and she said, "You're worrying about the money."

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I came home, had a stiff whisky, come to bed.

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I were goin' worse. All these red blotches all over me bald head.

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Doctor arrived and he said, "You've got scapular cappy-itis," or summat.

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I said, "It must have been me cap!"

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It landed in a puddle of water on top of the spinning mill, full of dead pigeons and stuff.

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I'd wrung it out, like, put it back on. By dinner time it were dry and I'd forgotten all about it.

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Apparently, some germ had got in the scratch that were on me bald head, and gone underneath me skin.

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If it gets round to your eye holes, it makes you blind.

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He gave me medicine and luckily it stopped before it got there.

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So I still feel a bit groggy but I'm on the mend definitely.

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