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Judi Dench is our favourite actress.

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Have a care with my name. You will wear it out.

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I think we'd be quite happy if she became the next queen.

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She's won awards in every form of the art,

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from weighty Shakespeare...

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-..to Hollywood epics...

-Come back alive.

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She is a star, whether she likes it or not.

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Without question, one of the greatest actresses.

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-..and television drama.

-Shut up. BABY CRIES

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Judi Dench is a tough old boot,

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if I can call a dame of the acting empire that.

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When I meet this woman, I'm going to hate her.

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Half the world thinks she is actually part of the royal family.

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She really has your balls in a noose.

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LAUGHTER

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These are the many faces of Dame Judi Dench.

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Britain has a tradition of bestowing high honours on actors at the top of their game.

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Men get a knighthood, and women the title of dame.

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Any cheap comic or talk-show host can get a knighthood,

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but to be a dame, you've got to be a serious actress!

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Judi Dench was made Dame Commander of the Order of the British Empire in 1988,

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marking a humble career of service to the monarch and the public.

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Dame Judi was honoured when she was most familiar as a sitcom actress.

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So, how often am I foolish?

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Ten years later, she made three films that redefined her career almost overnight.

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In 1995, she shook James Bond into shape...

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-I think you're a sexist, misogynist dinosaur.

-Point taken.

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You need someone who has an impact in two minutes.

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..and found an unlikely co-star in Mrs Brown.

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CLOCK CHIMES Get him out!

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She's just blissfully in the right job.

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By the time she won an Oscar for Shakespeare In Love,

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Hollywood nobility was falling at her feet.

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And?

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She's very much an example

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of somebody who connected with a movie audience

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much later in her life than probably most people looking back now recognise.

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They would assume she's been in that position for a long time, but she wasn't.

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Worldwide fame had been achieved in just three films in three years.

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For Judi Dench, that's hardly surprising.

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She's been winning awards from the very beginning of a 50-year career,

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which has had more twists than a epic Shakespearean drama.

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But for a star with a huge reputation,

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she's always kept a low profile off-screen.

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She doesn't like being interviewed. She doesn't.

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It's not an affectation. She genuinely does not like people prying into her background.

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She's genuinely shy about that.

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Judi studied at the Central School of Speech and Drama in London,

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although she has confided that acting was not her first choice.

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I was going to be a designer, decor and costumes and things,

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and then that kind of got, like a disease in a way,

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so I just kind of overnight thought, "I'll have a go at the other".

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She shone,

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and in 1957 auditioned for Michael Benthall's Old Vic Company

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before she had even graduated.

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I did an audition and Michael said, "I'm going to take the most enormous gamble.

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"We'd like you to play Ophelia in Hamlet." I just burst into tears.

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It was the start of a lifelong passion for Shakespeare,

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where great actors master the English language.

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Here's the smell of the blood...

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..still!

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All the perfumes of Arabia

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will not sweeten

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this...

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..little...

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..hand.

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SHE CROAKS

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The thing about Shakespeare

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that makes it such an exciting prospect for an actor is the words.

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He gives you the most incredible words,

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the most extraordinary use of language,

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and the challenge for you is to make those words sound like what you want it to say.

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We've watched Shakespeare where the actor doesn't know what he's saying,

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so we go, "I haven't a clue what it's about"

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but when an actor really knows what they're saying and those words come alive,

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it's the greatest thrill.

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But in the '60s, the theatre faced a revolution.

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Television brought gritty dramas right into the home.

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Z-Cars spoke the language of the streets.

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The hunt was on for feisty actors with passion

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who could capture the rebellious young spirit of the time.

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Judi's time in the stage spotlight had not gone unnoticed.

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-Hey!

-Agh!

-Hey, come back here!

-No! No!

-Come on!

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-She's only a bird, you can handle her.

-Thank you!

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-Where do your parents live?

-25 Lonsdale Road.

-You don't live with them?

-No.

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When did you leave home, then, love?

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Just tonight, was it?

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No, "love". A year ago.

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I walked out a year ago.

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-And left ten years before that, if you know what I mean!

-I don't.

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Don't push yourself explaining cos I'm not that interested.

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John Hopkins wrote the episode featuring Judi.

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He took her character as inspiration for a new drama,

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Talking To A Stranger.

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Far from the classical tradition of Shakespeare,

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this was cutting-edge stuff.

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One of the really great landmark TV dramas,

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Talking To A Stranger,

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often said to be the first real classic work of the medium.

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And in that she plays very much a figure of the period,

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you know, this woman who is pregnant by a man who isn't her husband.

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Jessica Adams, Leonard Ngana.

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Hi, little friend.

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He's my husband!

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-Was my husband.

-Still am, baby!

-Mm!

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Going to have to do something about that. Can't have a baby born with the name Ngana!

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You think you're going to have a baby?

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You're really optimistic.

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Certainly I can have a baby.

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-My baby?

-How did we achieve that - remote control?! Be your ever-loving age, sweetie!

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-No, not your baby!

-You're my wife, you're going to have my baby.

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Pink with blond hair and blue eyes, I hope. One head, two arms and two legs.

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It dealt with what we would now call a dysfunctional family.

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But I think we didn't view it as that. It dealt with tragedy.

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-I thought you were going to be...

-Sick?

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So did I.

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-What's the matter with you?

-Nothing!

-Oh, don't be silly -

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-Something's the matter!

-I'm perfectly all right!

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Each of the four episodes takes the perspective of a different family member.

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It's about the generation gap and Mother's shattered hopes when she was a bride.

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-I'm so happy!

-'Happy, happy, happy!'

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I think the pill was 1961,

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and women were taking responsibility for our own reproduction

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and also for...

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..who one wanted to sleep with or one didn't want to sleep with.

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So for my generation and Judi's it wasn't such a big thing,

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but I imagine for our parents watching it, yes, it was.

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To see what was actually happening with their children

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would've been perhaps alarming.

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Ow! TEACUP CLATTERS

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-You have a filthy mouth!

-I better go and wash it.

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How dare you speak like that in this house?

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-Oh, that's right!

-Pray, tell me, what's so special about this house?

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You think he's going to be offended? Why doesn't He strike me dead!

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-I will not having you making your cheap jokes!

-Why doesn't He strike me dead?

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-You think you're so important!

-I think anyone who needs something -

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-Your friends think that's very funny, I suppose.

-I haven't got any!

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-You could butter them on that bread, and you still wouldn't choke!

-Be quiet!

-I've just started!

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-You don't make me laugh!

-Five elephants and a camel in a phone box wouldn't!

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-If you can't control your tongue, it's better if you don't come and see us again.

-Mother, no.

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I remember when they were rehearsing, all four of them,

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I would ask Christopher Morahan if I could sit and watch.

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I used to stay behind after rehearsal had finished just to see them.

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She was known as a classical actress,

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we knew she'd been at the Old Vic and the RSC,

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and here she was totally modern, fresh, very... quite raw,

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a very intensely emotional performance.

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It was breathtaking. It was a slice of life, you know?

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Always providing, that is, I go that natural-type death.

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Myself, I put a lot of faith in the Third World War.

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And no four-minute warning!

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-Pull yourself together, Terry.

-Pow!

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BABY SCREAMS

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Women were questioning their place in society in the '60s.

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In the film, Four In The Morning, Judi played a young mother

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trapped at home with a new baby.

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I suppose we could live the rest of our lives like this.

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-If you're going to go on resenting me...

-But I don't resent you!

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It's just, you can... you can get out of these four walls!

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You can see your friends, you can go for a drink, you can break away!

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I'm not prepared to cook your meals, look after your baby and be here when you feel like it.

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-Oh, come on, darling, that's your part of the bargain!

-Bargain?!

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I'm sorry, but that's the way society happens to be!

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I'm not talking about society, I'm talking about me!

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She captures something quite brilliant and quite moving in that film.

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I suppose it's post-natal depression

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in the days when people didn't really use expressions like that.

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But that melancholy,

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that sense of a woman trapped in the home,

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waiting for feminism to happen...

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This is a woman who is destined for real greatness,

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not just on the stage but on the screen, too,

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because the camera looks at her

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and it sees an interior world that we can't quite know,

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but you know that within this character

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is a world of sadness and a world of experience.

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Four In The Morning won Judi Dench her first BAFTA as Most Promising Newcomer.

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She had shone in Shakespeare

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and captured the melancholy mood of a changing society with documentary precision.

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A career in film and television was unfolding.

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But Judi Dench was not about to be typecast

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or leave the theatre.

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GENTLE PIANO MELODY

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UPBEAT MUSIC

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In rehearsals, Judi prepared for the lead role in a new production.

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But this wasn't Shakespeare. This was musical theatre.

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When she was cast as Sally Bowles in Cabaret,

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a lot of people thought that was an utterly ludicrous idea.

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Everyone was, "What's this going to be like?"

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But she was wonderful! Absolutely amazing!

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Sally Bowles is not meant to be the world's greatest singer anyway,

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or the world's greatest dancer.

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I mean, unlike lovely Liza, who changed it when she did the film,

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but the musical and the book and the play

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is actually Sally Bowles isn't supposed to be wonderful.

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# Hush up, don't tell Mama

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# Shush up, don't tell Mama

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# Don't tell Mama

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# Whatever you do #

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I mean, she can sing, she can dance. She can do all those things.

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Often the best singers don't sing all the extraordinary notes.

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They actually make you feel a song and make you believe the lyric

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and it's the feeling that you get over, not just the notes.

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# So won't you kindly do a girl A great big favour?

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# And please, my sweet patater... #

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Cabaret opened to fantastic reviews

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and set up Judi as a musical theatre star.

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She played it so well and she was wonderful, absolutely amazing as Sally Bowles.

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Judi Dench's performance as Sally Bowles in Cabaret

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will never, ever be eclipsed.

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It was everything that Christopher Isherwood ever dreamt of.

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And she sang, too, and sang wonderfully in her way,

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but she summoned up a whole era,

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she summoned up a whole way of life, a whole generation.

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There you are in 1967, as early as that,

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where she was giving a definitive performance.

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That's quite something.

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# Doesn't even have an inkling

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# That I left them all in Antwerp

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# And I'm touring on my own #

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Judi played the lead role of Sally Bowles in the original stage production of Cabaret

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and went on to star in The Good Companions

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for 255 performances.

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She focused on theatre throughout the '70s.

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She could command the stage in anything, from Shakespeare to musicals

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and had a BAFTA to show for gritty television performances.

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But her career was about to take another twist

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with a chance to co-star in TV comedy

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alongside her husband Michael Williams.

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Michael read the scripts and said to Judi,

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"These are good. We should do it."

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# A fine romance

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# With no kisses #

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A Fine Romance ran for four series on ITV from 1981 to 1984,

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giving Judi a high profile with a mainstream TV audience.

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It was her first sitcom

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and I remember there were things in the Press that said, "Judi Dench doing a sitcom!"

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Horror of horrors.

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But we had the most fantastic time. It's one of my favourite jobs.

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-Laura?

-Yes?

-Laura.

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-This is Mike.

-Hello, hello.

-Hello.

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I played Judi's younger sister, who's very happily married

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and Judi played the spinster older sister,

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who meets Michael,

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who's a gardener,

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and it's about their love affair and how they get together - a fine romance.

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MUSIC PLAYS IN BACKGROUND

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Laura is a linguist!

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-Ahh!

-Somewhat.

-Bon.

-Oui.

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They loved to work together.

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They used to go off at weekends and do poetry recitals and Shakespeare readings

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after having a week of rehearsing A Fine Romance.

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-Good night.

-Er, well, let me give you a lift home at least.

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Oh!

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LAUGHTER

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-Where to?

-Fulham.

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-Is it out of your way?

-Yes.

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A rose features in the titles and often in the programme,

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inspired by a real-life weekly romantic gesture by Judi's husband Michael.

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He gave her a rose just after they first got together.

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And he carried on doing that. He used to give her a rose every week.

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She used to come in with it sometimes, into rehearsal.

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That's a wonderful, romantic thing to do!

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Their daughter, Finty, has continued the rose-giving tradition

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since Michael died in 2001.

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That's why.

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-"I

-ove

-you"?

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Family has always come first for Judi.

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I think she was often offered things, she was certainly offered theatre in America, on Broadway,

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which might've led to movies from Broadway.

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She never wanted to leave Michael and Finty. They came first. That was a lot to do with it.

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THEME MUSIC: "As Time Goes By"

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Judi left the world of sitcom at the end of the run to return to more serious roles.

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But destiny was to call her back for a new BBC comedy,

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As Time Goes By.

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She wasn't first choice for that part at all.

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I like to rub that in a bit to her. Are you watching?

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We were going to have Jean Simmons.

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We had lots of lunches with her. We waited a time

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and then we thought we ought to get on with it,

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so Judi Dench was approached.

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I thought she'd never do it, but someone said, "Let's try her."

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We didn't know at the time that Judi never reads a script,

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she just likes working, so if someone offers her a job, she takes it.

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She's crazy really.

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I don't think she knew who I was or Syd Lotterby, the director, but she thought, "It's a job!"

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Pretty well everyone said, "Oh, how wonderful!

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"You know Jude?" I said, "No, I don't."

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"You've never worked with Jude?!" "No, I haven't."

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"Never, ever? She's wonderful! You'll love her."

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And after about 15 people had said this, I thought,

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"Bloody hell, when I meet this woman I'm going to hate her."

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I mean, I was really right off her.

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I shan't be a moment. Mum, Sandy, Lionel.

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-ALL: Hello.

-Do sit down. Two minutes.

-Right.

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Can I get you a drink?

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-No, thanks. I've got a taxi waiting.

-Right.

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Geoffrey and Judi play characters who were separated as young lovers,

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then unexpectedly reconnect many years later.

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AUDIENCE LAUGH TENTATIVELY

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-Shall we get on?

-Yes, of course.

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The audience in that sitcom studio are watching it on the big screen,

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because half the time, their view is obscured by cameras and set,

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but still you're getting a live reaction from the audience,

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so that requires some theatrical experience

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to be able to play to the audience and with the audience.

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Ahh! Now, isn't that a picture of domestic bliss?

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Ohh.

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The series had a natural narrative arc to it.

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We thought it would go for three series

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and when they get together, that would be the natural end,

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but I think Bob Larbey decided that there was more to it.

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Let's see how they get on living together.

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He was written as a very independent, curmudgeonly character

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and she was settled with her life and her daughter,

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and so there seemed to be some interest in keeping that going and seeing how that went.

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So he moves into her house in Holland Park

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and then it went on for another six series after that.

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Over the course of the series,

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we see the couple kiss again

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and, in the fullness of time, get married.

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I remember, during the first series,

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Judi and I having lunch and saying, "How much do you think we'll get out of this?"

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We said, "Maybe it'll go for more than one series.

0:20:510:20:54

"Maybe it'll go for three."

0:20:540:20:56

We were very lucky, weren't we? We got a second chance.

0:20:570:21:02

Some people never get a first.

0:21:020:21:05

I love you, Lionel.

0:21:080:21:10

Just as well, because I love you, too.

0:21:100:21:14

It's an indefinable chemistry, I think, between Geoffrey and Judi.

0:21:140:21:18

That's undeniably what is at its route.

0:21:180:21:21

And it's written by someone who can write

0:21:210:21:25

the kind of dialogue that seems perfectly natural.

0:21:250:21:31

The huge surprise about it was that it's incredibly popular in the States.

0:21:310:21:38

And we still get little cheques come in from the US of A, which is lovely!

0:21:380:21:43

That was the huge surprise.

0:21:430:21:46

And the fact that it's a bit cross generational,

0:21:460:21:49

obviously it is middle-class, semi-geriatric,

0:21:490:21:52

but it seems to appeal to most people.

0:21:520:21:56

Oh, damn and blast.

0:21:570:21:59

What now?

0:21:590:22:01

I need a pee.

0:22:020:22:04

As Time Goes By shows how comfortable Dame Judi Dench is with comedy.

0:22:040:22:09

That's no surprise for the actors and crew who work with her

0:22:090:22:12

and it has provided fans with a peak of the playful Judi Dench behind the scenes

0:22:120:22:16

and often on camera.

0:22:160:22:18

..and had long black hair and... SHE STIFLES LAUGHTER

0:22:180:22:22

It's written down!

0:22:220:22:25

AUDIENCE LAUGHS

0:22:250:22:27

We did have the odd retake, erm,

0:22:340:22:38

and some of them were down to her.

0:22:380:22:40

Stop making excuses and face facts! You're making it sound like an accusation.

0:22:400:22:45

We all care about you and want to help!

0:22:450:22:48

You simply can't turn a blind ear to your hearing!

0:22:480:22:50

-Is that a mixed metaphor?

-Blind eye! AUDIENCE LAUGH

0:22:500:22:54

In a way, Judi wasn't usually quite ready, if I can say that.

0:22:550:23:00

It didn't matter a tuppeny damn because she just does it, you know.

0:23:000:23:05

Well, don't worry, I won't leave you to do it alone.

0:23:050:23:08

That way, if they rush us,

0:23:080:23:09

at least we won't be a... dwindling minority!

0:23:090:23:12

I've no idea what I'm saying! No idea!

0:23:120:23:16

The audience loved it if we got it wrong. They loved her more and more.

0:23:160:23:20

Almost everyone you meet intends to write a book.

0:23:200:23:23

All you have to do is express a deep interest

0:23:230:23:26

and suddenly they're very accommodating.

0:23:260:23:28

SHE GIGGLES Sorry!

0:23:280:23:31

She has a wicked sense of humour

0:23:320:23:34

and, I think other people have pointed out,

0:23:340:23:37

probably one of the dirtiest laughs in English theatre.

0:23:370:23:40

SHE LAUGHS

0:23:400:23:42

She's a very, very mischievous actress.

0:23:490:23:52

You did know there was something wrong! You knew about his thumb...

0:23:520:23:56

His thumb! AUDIENCE LAUGH

0:23:560:24:00

It's nothing to do with me!

0:24:030:24:05

-It's everything!

-It's nothing to do with me!

0:24:050:24:08

-He's always like -

-All week, she hasn't known this line!

0:24:080:24:12

So I've been going...

0:24:120:24:15

He's been doing this!

0:24:150:24:17

Tonight he doesn't do it!

0:24:170:24:20

I didn't do it tonight, so...!

0:24:200:24:22

Is Eileen Atkins free? Maggie Smith?

0:24:220:24:27

Geraldine McEwan?

0:24:270:24:30

During her years in sitcom, Judi had continued her stage career

0:24:300:24:34

and added to her cabinet of film awards.

0:24:340:24:37

A Room With A View and A Handful Of Dust won BAFTAs

0:24:370:24:40

and she was nominated as Best Actress in Wetherby and Behaving Badly.

0:24:400:24:44

She wasn't a comedy actress in serious roles,

0:24:440:24:47

she was a serious actress with a serious sense of humour.

0:24:470:24:50

She doesn't want people to be in awe of her

0:24:500:24:53

or treat her any differently.

0:24:530:24:56

I mean, inevitably, you do,

0:24:560:24:58

but she uses humour as a way of...

0:24:580:25:05

..making people not be in any way subservient to her.

0:25:050:25:10

She just wants to be a friend.

0:25:100:25:12

I had done one very small TV part

0:25:120:25:15

and then I was cast as Judi Dench's daughter,

0:25:150:25:18

which unbelievably blew my mind because I knew all about her, I thought she was amazing.

0:25:180:25:24

I was so nervous about meeting her.

0:25:240:25:27

How on earth was I going to be able to act with her?

0:25:270:25:29

And I think the thing I felt about her the most was,

0:25:290:25:33

she was unbelievably human and humble

0:25:330:25:37

and totally one of the gang.

0:25:370:25:40

-I love you!

-And you.

0:25:440:25:46

She larked around all the time, joked all the time,

0:25:460:25:51

was always making everybody laugh and have fun

0:25:510:25:55

and the minute the camera turned,

0:25:550:25:57

her concentration was absolutely focused.

0:25:570:26:00

I used to be fascinated by it, how she could talk to people

0:26:000:26:03

and be joking and laughing and seemingly not in the zone at all,

0:26:030:26:08

and then something would happen and she would go "click".

0:26:080:26:12

It was really amazing to watch.

0:26:120:26:15

In sitcom, Judi epitomised middle-class, well-behaved Britain.

0:26:150:26:19

In Behaving Badly,

0:26:190:26:21

she took us back into the most uncomfortable areas.

0:26:210:26:24

The first scene we ever did was this very tricky scene

0:26:240:26:27

of me coming home and telling her that I was going to leave her.

0:26:270:26:31

'I was thrilled and excited

0:26:320:26:35

'and a little bit nervous,

0:26:350:26:38

'as you always are with a great celebrity doing a part.'

0:26:380:26:42

-We have to talk.

-I'm listening.

0:26:420:26:46

This is the trickiest bit.

0:26:460:26:48

'She instinctively just kept her back to me.'

0:26:480:26:53

Her name's Rebecca.

0:26:530:26:55

She's a journalist.

0:26:550:26:58

She's a bit younger than I am.

0:27:000:27:03

Well, a lot, really. It doesn't matter.

0:27:030:27:05

'There was something about this back that had a special vulnerability.'

0:27:050:27:09

I'm trying to think of a way to tell you this kindly, but there isn't one.

0:27:090:27:13

Bridget, I'm in love and Rebecca, she seems to love me.

0:27:140:27:19

'She manages to convey from every pore,

0:27:190:27:22

'whether it's front or back or sideways,

0:27:220:27:25

'something massive.'

0:27:250:27:28

By 1995, Dame Judi was a woman of more mature years.

0:27:290:27:34

Star of a long-running TV sitcom,

0:27:340:27:36

she'd enjoyed an enviable award-winning career on stage and screen.

0:27:360:27:40

She might've thought she had done it all, but she was about to find a new audience.

0:27:400:27:45

TV is where I first saw Judi Dench

0:27:450:27:47

and there was definitely a point in my life when other people, much more educated and learned than myself,

0:27:470:27:54

were talking about Judi Dench as a great actress and having seen her on the stage

0:27:540:27:59

and I was thinking, "What, Judi Dench off As Time Goes By?

0:27:590:28:02

"The same Judi Dench who was in A Fine Romance?"

0:28:020:28:07

So I never quite put the two together.

0:28:070:28:09

She definitely was a sitcom actress when I first knew of her.

0:28:090:28:14

That's just what I thought she was and I'm sure I wasn't alone in that.

0:28:140:28:18

MUSIC: "James Bond theme"

0:28:180:28:20

-You were saying.

-No, no, I was just -

0:28:220:28:25

Good. Because if I want sarcasm, Mr Tanner, I'll talk to my children, thank you very much.

0:28:250:28:31

It was 1995. GoldenEye launched Pierce Brosnan's Bond

0:28:310:28:35

and revealed a Secret Service that had changed.

0:28:350:28:38

You know, this sort of behaviour could qualify as sexual harassment.

0:28:380:28:42

Really? What's the penalty for that?

0:28:420:28:46

Some day you have to make good on your innuendos.

0:28:460:28:49

Well, the Bond films are extraordinary in their size.

0:28:490:28:54

I mean, until you make a film like that,

0:28:540:28:56

you have absolutely no idea of the whole machine,

0:28:560:29:00

not even the film itself, but the whole rigmarole that goes with it.

0:29:000:29:04

It was extraordinary that when we all started the first one, GoldenEye,

0:29:040:29:08

it was an incredible feeling of excitement.

0:29:080:29:11

I think you're a sexist, misogynist dinosaur,

0:29:110:29:14

a relic of the Cold War, whose boyish charms are wasted on me.

0:29:140:29:18

Point taken.

0:29:180:29:20

There's another side to her, the bitchy side, the tough side, the hard side.

0:29:200:29:24

If you think for one moment I don't have the balls to send a man out to die,

0:29:240:29:28

your instincts are dead wrong.

0:29:280:29:30

I've no compunction about sending you to your death.

0:29:300:29:33

That's why she made such an impact, despite a small amount of screen time.

0:29:330:29:38

You don't like me, Bond. You don't like my methods.

0:29:380:29:40

You think I'm an accountant, a bean-counter,

0:29:400:29:43

-more interested in my numbers.

-The thought had occurred to me.

0:29:430:29:47

The thing about M is, she bosses James Bond about.

0:29:470:29:49

James Bond is one of the ultimate movie tough guys,

0:29:490:29:53

but M, played by Judi Dench, has the upper hand.

0:29:530:29:56

-Bond...

-GoldenEye introduced Judi Dench to the world.

0:29:560:29:59

..come back alive.

0:29:590:30:01

They saw a newcomer in her 60s.

0:30:010:30:04

Being interviewed by the press and everything, the Americans said,

0:30:040:30:08

"So we've seen you as M. What else have you been doing?"

0:30:080:30:11

Jude said it was like 40 years of experience

0:30:110:30:14

completely didn't matter!

0:30:140:30:15

M was a small role in a big film,

0:30:160:30:19

but even as it was released, there were preparations for a big role in a small film

0:30:190:30:23

that would confirm Judi Dench as an international movie star.

0:30:230:30:28

Mr Brown, ma'am.

0:30:280:30:31

Mrs Brown told the story of the relationship

0:30:310:30:34

between Queen Victoria and the Scottish ghillie John Brown, played by Billy Connelly.

0:30:340:30:39

It turned out to be a really terrific marriage.

0:30:390:30:43

She loved him

0:30:430:30:45

and he, in turn, felt that he was dining at the high table,

0:30:450:30:51

exactly as the character that he was playing does.

0:30:510:30:56

And so the symbiosis between the two of them,

0:30:560:30:58

and Billy feeling that he was going to have to pull off a legitimate performance

0:30:580:31:03

as opposed to winging it, which is what he does so spectacularly onstage,

0:31:030:31:09

was a very interesting dynamic, very productive for the film.

0:31:090:31:13

Mr Brown is here, ma'am.

0:31:140:31:17

That was made for BBC Television, that film,

0:31:170:31:21

financed by the BBC entirely,

0:31:210:31:24

and it was made at a time

0:31:240:31:26

when films had a small chance of translating to the big screen.

0:31:260:31:31

He kept saying, "This'll go in the cinema!" And we thought, "Shut up."

0:31:310:31:35

The whole court was represented by Richard Pasco and me.

0:31:350:31:39

We were the only courtiers. It was a very small budget.

0:31:390:31:42

She's been in deep mourning

0:31:440:31:47

and more or less dysfunctional since Albert's death.

0:31:470:31:52

You have a brother in service here, do you not?

0:31:520:31:57

-I forget his name.

-Archie.

0:31:570:31:59

Yes.

0:31:590:32:02

-That will be company for you.

-Yes.

0:32:030:32:06

It was a tough scene for Billy. It was the first scene he did, the first scene we shot.

0:32:060:32:11

He knew that at the end of the scene there was a line he had to get right!

0:32:110:32:15

It took a few times to settle down on that,

0:32:150:32:19

and so Judy was going through those emotions quite a number of times

0:32:190:32:23

and I was watching the monitor with my mouth open,

0:32:230:32:29

just thinking, "How do you do that?"

0:32:290:32:32

Honest to God, I never thought to see you in such a state!

0:32:330:32:37

You must miss him dreadfully.

0:32:370:32:40

You do not...

0:32:400:32:43

He... CLOCK CHIMES

0:32:430:32:46

Get him out! Get him out!

0:32:460:32:50

Get him out! Get him out!

0:32:500:32:54

I thought, "God, this isn't the actress I've been working with!"

0:32:560:33:01

This was on another level.

0:33:010:33:04

And she was phenomenal in it, I think.

0:33:040:33:08

Absolutely phenomenal in Mrs Brown.

0:33:080:33:11

And with reason, her screen career took off after that.

0:33:110:33:16

What she brought to the role of Queen Victoria

0:33:160:33:20

was this quality of sensibility.

0:33:200:33:24

There's something very emotionally articulate about Judi Dench.

0:33:240:33:30

It's as if everything she says seems weighted with emotion,

0:33:300:33:36

with a sense of something about to break through.

0:33:360:33:39

She often sounds like she might be about to burst into tears or into laughter.

0:33:390:33:44

It's hard to detect.

0:33:440:33:46

I have noticed of late...

0:33:470:33:50

..that my feelings of grief

0:33:520:33:54

..are not so strong...

0:34:000:34:02

..and I find myself leaning

0:34:040:34:07

more on the comfort of living friends.

0:34:070:34:13

This is why she's so good. She can show these moments,

0:34:130:34:16

she can show somebody emerging from widowhood

0:34:160:34:20

into a kind of girlishness,

0:34:200:34:23

and do it without it seeming corny or cheap.

0:34:230:34:27

There's a subtlety to everything she does.

0:34:270:34:30

-Has someone seen to those bruises?

-Yes, Ma'am.

0:34:300:34:34

Ma'am...

0:34:350:34:37

Having considered my position here in court,

0:34:390:34:43

I have come to the conclusion that, in Your Majesty's best interests, I should resign.

0:34:430:34:48

I do not accept.

0:34:480:34:50

I had foreseen that you would not.

0:34:500:34:54

But Your Majesty should understand...

0:34:540:34:58

..that I will not be changed in this.

0:34:590:35:02

-I leave for Deeside -

-The Queen forbids it.

0:35:020:35:04

I cannot allow it

0:35:150:35:18

because I cannot live without you.

0:35:180:35:21

She had had the most stunning career in televisual terms

0:35:210:35:26

and certainly amazing in theatrical terms,

0:35:260:35:29

and then it was quite late that the film world opened to her,

0:35:290:35:34

which she has embraced and is glorious in.

0:35:340:35:38

I mean, the big turn was Mrs Brown.

0:35:380:35:42

The Americans in particular

0:35:420:35:44

love it when the dignified, the classic British actors

0:35:440:35:49

take on the role of a British royal.

0:35:490:35:52

Dame Judi plays royal characters

0:35:520:35:54

the way that we want the royals to be, not how they really were,

0:35:540:35:58

but with great severity, vulnerability - just enough -

0:35:580:36:04

but also she can be very scary.

0:36:040:36:07

Within a year, Dame Judi was crowned again,

0:36:070:36:10

playing Queen Elizabeth I in Shakespeare In Love, a very different monarch.

0:36:100:36:15

We don't have royalty in America, so we have to take yours.

0:36:150:36:19

We like very pushy British women. Americans love that.

0:36:190:36:24

This stems from the fact that we think that British people are superior to us,

0:36:240:36:28

but we would never say that.

0:36:280:36:29

What do you love so much?

0:36:290:36:31

-Your Majesty

-Speak up, girl! I know who I am!

0:36:310:36:36

the script is the thing that decides whether it's any good or not

0:36:360:36:40

and this was obviously a corker.

0:36:400:36:42

-That woman is a woman!

-THEY GASP

0:36:420:36:46

What? A woman? You mean that goat?!

0:36:460:36:50

I'll see you all in Clink,

0:36:500:36:52

in the name of Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth!

0:36:520:36:56

Mr Tilney! THEY GASP

0:36:560:36:59

Have a care with my name. You will wear it out.

0:37:040:37:07

Unless we absolutely messed it up, which of course we could've done, any of us,

0:37:070:37:12

or John Madden or whatever,

0:37:120:37:14

but that was a fabulous script, it was a joy to do

0:37:140:37:18

and the job was to do it very well and that's it.

0:37:180:37:22

It's a cross-dressing rom-com

0:37:230:37:25

where only cold Queen Elizabeth can salvage Shakespeare's love life and career.

0:37:250:37:30

They are not acted for you, they are acted for me.

0:37:300:37:33

Of course, she's played the great Shakespearean roles,

0:37:330:37:36

that was the lifeblood of her career, really,

0:37:360:37:40

and she has a capacity

0:37:400:37:44

to display tremendous power and assurance

0:37:440:37:49

from quite a small frame, erm,

0:37:490:37:53

and I think that comes, strangely, quite naturally to her,

0:37:530:37:57

even though she isn't remotely like that in person.

0:37:570:38:00

She brings a sort of intellectualism

0:38:000:38:03

and an emotional sophistication to the material that she works with,

0:38:030:38:09

so that no matter what she's saying,

0:38:090:38:11

there's a sense of a hinterland of some kind,

0:38:110:38:14

of a history of the things going on at the back of this character's mind, as well.

0:38:140:38:19

And that's something that comes, I think, from her.

0:38:190:38:23

She's been plucked since I saw her last, and not by you.

0:38:230:38:27

It takes a woman to know it.

0:38:270:38:29

I think we could actually pinpoint a Judi Dench style,

0:38:290:38:34

which is very refined, very classy, very dignified,

0:38:340:38:39

but don't mess with her.

0:38:390:38:41

I think that's what we love to see,

0:38:410:38:43

because she is small, she is petite, she's not loud and brash.

0:38:430:38:49

She is a very classy-looking lady.

0:38:490:38:53

But we like to see her with some guts, as well.

0:38:530:38:56

Come here, Master Kent. Let me look at you.

0:38:560:39:00

Yes, the illusion is remarkable.

0:39:110:39:14

And your error, Mr Tilney, is easily forgiven.

0:39:140:39:18

But I know something of a woman in a man's profession.

0:39:180:39:22

Yes, by God, I do know about that.

0:39:220:39:24

Famously, she had, like, 12 minutes of screen time...

0:39:240:39:29

Eight minutes, I think. I haven't totted them up.

0:39:290:39:32

..but won the Supporting Actress Oscar

0:39:320:39:34

because she makes such an impact in such a small amount of time.

0:39:340:39:38

She comes into the movie, she bosses everyone about,

0:39:380:39:41

she's tough, she makes a real impact,

0:39:410:39:44

and you think you've been watching her for much longer than you were.

0:39:440:39:47

There was a sense that

0:39:470:39:50

a lot of people were so taken aback by her performance as Queen Victoria

0:39:500:39:54

that they were surprised, in a way, that she didn't win for that.

0:39:540:40:00

Shakespeare In Love came out the following year,

0:40:000:40:05

and it was a Supporting Actress nomination,

0:40:050:40:09

and she was playing another monarch,

0:40:090:40:12

and I suppose, possibly, there was a sense that

0:40:120:40:16

the Academy had suddenly become aware of this actress.

0:40:160:40:20

Too late. Too late!

0:40:300:40:33

Judi entered the 21st century as a worldwide film star.

0:40:330:40:37

She's built M's part in the Bond films.

0:40:370:40:39

But although Hollywood loves Judi Dench as a steely, hard woman in a man's world,

0:40:390:40:44

she refuses to be typecast.

0:40:440:40:46

Alongside the Hollywood blockbusters

0:40:460:40:48

is Dame Judi of the low-budget film and TV series,

0:40:480:40:52

in a huge variety of roles.

0:40:520:40:55

She's had an extraordinary career. She's one of the few actors I know who's never been out of work.

0:40:550:41:00

She literally has not been out of work. From the very beginning, she's worked all her life.

0:41:000:41:04

I think the key to that is that,

0:41:040:41:07

while she's not made many errors in her time,

0:41:070:41:12

she's also chosen wisely in the sense that she's chosen stuff that,

0:41:120:41:16

even if it seemed unlikely, it has worked triumphantly for her.

0:41:160:41:19

From the leafy suburbs of south London,

0:41:200:41:23

the Bombshell who made all this possible, Elizabeth on tenor sax!

0:41:230:41:28

SHE PLAYS UPBEAT JAZZ

0:41:280:41:30

Judi won a BAFTA for Best Actress in The Last of the Blonde Bombshells,

0:41:330:41:38

the story of a woman reuniting a wartime swing band.

0:41:380:41:42

I didn't know.

0:41:420:41:44

Do you remember that dance hall I told you about?

0:41:450:41:48

-You Rascal You?

-Mm.

0:41:480:41:50

-Well, I played in the band.

-Did women do that then?

0:41:500:41:53

What do you know about the war, the 1939-45?

0:41:530:41:57

We beat Germany one-nil?

0:41:570:41:59

It was an upside-down world.

0:41:590:42:02

Women drove ambulances and worked in ship yards and...

0:42:020:42:06

..and I played in a band. We called ourselves The Blonde Bombshells.

0:42:060:42:11

-Were you a star?

-Well, we played on the wireless once.

0:42:110:42:14

You were a star!

0:42:140:42:15

Don't you remember?

0:42:150:42:18

Metropole Ballroom, Moonlight Serenade,

0:42:180:42:21

The Boogie-Woogie Bugle Boy From Company B?

0:42:210:42:26

-Patrick.

-See, you do remember.

0:42:260:42:28

The man we were all warned about.

0:42:280:42:31

At least offer me the hand of friendship.

0:42:310:42:34

I might never see it again. THEY LAUGH

0:42:340:42:36

MAN PLAYS GENTLE MELODY

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If you're gonna do that, do it properly.

0:42:420:42:44

I was just trying to catch the spirit of the moment.

0:42:440:42:47

SHE PLAYS FAST-PACED JAZZ

0:42:470:42:49

Just a year after Blonde Bombshells, she won the Best Actress BAFTA again

0:42:510:42:55

for a film about novelist Iris Murdoch.

0:42:550:42:59

Iris was a great performance. A tragic performance, as well,

0:42:590:43:02

because we saw... well, it was a real person.

0:43:020:43:05

We saw Judi portray her

0:43:050:43:08

as someone who was once so intelligent, charismatic

0:43:080:43:12

and just fading in front of our eyes.

0:43:120:43:14

So a really tragic performance from her.

0:43:140:43:16

HE GASPS

0:43:180:43:20

-Where?

-Between the soup and the baked beans.

0:43:200:43:23

Thank you! Thank you so much!

0:43:230:43:25

I caught her before she got to the checkout.

0:43:250:43:27

She's been g-gone for hours.

0:43:270:43:29

I thought I'd never see her again, n-never.

0:43:290:43:32

She doesn't always have the joie de vivre that we associate with her.

0:43:320:43:37

Sometimes she can play a character who's much more insular.

0:43:370:43:40

She is an actress rather than a movie star,

0:43:530:43:56

which means that she gets subsumed into the roles.

0:43:560:43:59

So when she's in, let's say, Iris, she disappears into that role.

0:43:590:44:04

W-Were you trying to get away from me?

0:44:140:44:18

D-Did you want to leave me, Iris?

0:44:180:44:22

Please?

0:44:240:44:26

Judi plays Iris

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as she spirals into the despair of Alzheimer's disease.

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And Notes On A Scandal was an award-winning, international success.

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It's a psychological thriller where Judi plays a manipulative spinster

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besotted by Cate Blanchett.

0:44:430:44:45

Let's go to the pub, OK?

0:44:490:44:51

When... When will you tell them?

0:44:540:44:57

I need to know the circumstances. You must inform me of everything.

0:44:570:45:02

She's this kind of old harridan.

0:45:020:45:04

It's not always about the regal aspect.

0:45:040:45:06

Sometimes she can just be an old witch really.

0:45:060:45:10

Please, I tried to end it, honestly! I just couldn't!

0:45:100:45:13

I risked everything for you and in return, you humiliate me!

0:45:130:45:17

I didn't mean to upset you, Barb, please! I need your help! Please don't go like this!

0:45:170:45:22

You promised to end it. Why didn't you?

0:45:220:45:24

-Because I -

-What? You're in love?

0:45:240:45:26

And the child? Do you imagine he reciprocates your soppy feelings?

0:45:260:45:30

I dare say he's fascinated by the neurotic compulsions

0:45:300:45:33

of a middle-class lady with marital problems!

0:45:330:45:36

-Barb -

-There's nothing crueller than the adolescent boy.

0:45:360:45:39

Once he's had his fill, he'll discard you like a old rag.

0:45:390:45:42

You're not young!

0:45:420:45:45

I say this to help you. End it now.

0:45:450:45:49

-Y-Y-Yes, yes. I'm thinking.

-Don't think. Do.

0:45:500:45:53

-Do, do, do, do! Or shall I just sit here doing my nails till your husband returns?

-No, no!

0:45:530:45:58

-I'll do it.

-Well, what are you waiting for?

0:45:580:46:01

I think she can be the national treasure.

0:46:010:46:03

She can be the cosy Judi Dench, who's beautifully spoken

0:46:030:46:07

and lovely to look at and all cosy and cuddly and lovely,

0:46:070:46:11

and that's absolutely one side of her.

0:46:110:46:13

We see it in something like Mrs Henderson Presents.

0:46:130:46:16

It is most inconsiderate of Robert to die.

0:46:160:46:18

What on earth am I supposed to do now?

0:46:180:46:20

The first rule of widowhood, my dear,

0:46:200:46:23

important conversations occur at lunch.

0:46:230:46:27

It's really not so bad. Widows are allowed hobbies.

0:46:270:46:31

-Hobbies?!

-Yes. Embroidery, things like that.

0:46:310:46:34

-Are you mad?

-I've graduated to weaving.

0:46:340:46:37

-Would you care to see my tapestries?

-I'd rather drink ink!

0:46:370:46:41

What on earth are you going to do with a theatre?

0:46:480:46:51

Well, I thought music hall or...

0:46:510:46:54

What do they call it in America? Vaudeville.

0:46:540:46:57

Actually, I haven't thought about it! What am I going to do with it?

0:46:570:47:01

-Clearly, you need someone to run it for you.

-Oh, you think?

0:47:010:47:05

Oh, I knew you'd give me sensible advice!

0:47:050:47:08

But who?

0:47:080:47:10

You're 20 minutes late. And you're rude.

0:47:100:47:14

-Perhaps he's the wrong man.

-Oh, I don't think so.

0:47:160:47:19

All of these things seem very disparate,

0:47:190:47:22

but I think there are notes that are there in those performances

0:47:220:47:27

that those performances have in common,

0:47:270:47:30

and I think it's to do with a sense of intelligence

0:47:300:47:36

and a sense of something calculating, something going on.

0:47:360:47:40

This is her great skill, I think,

0:47:400:47:43

and it's a skill that enlivens and sophisticates material

0:47:430:47:48

that sometimes doesn't deserve it.

0:47:480:47:50

After 50 years in the business, a dame could be forgiven for taking things easy.

0:47:520:47:57

For Judi Dench, comfortable territory is a pretty big place.

0:47:570:48:03

A rich costume drama like Cranford, for instance.

0:48:030:48:06

I suggest you open up a shop.

0:48:090:48:11

-A shop?

-In this dining parlour.

0:48:130:48:16

CLOCK TICKS

0:48:160:48:18

What kind of a shop?

0:48:180:48:19

I would advise you sell some sort of commodity

0:48:190:48:22

called-for on a daily basis.

0:48:220:48:25

Tea would be ideal.

0:48:260:48:29

I couldn't. I couldn't! To go into trade...

0:48:300:48:33

I'm sure your friends will accept it and admire your common sense.

0:48:330:48:36

Tea really is a very genteel form of trade, Miss Matty.

0:48:360:48:40

-It is purchased by people of every class.

-Including the most superior.

0:48:400:48:46

At least it is not a sticky form of merchandise,

0:48:470:48:52

for I could never bear to handle things that leave a residue.

0:48:520:48:56

-Good morning, Mrs Johnson.

-Good morning, Miss Jenkyns.

0:49:010:49:04

Last time you were in, you were looking at the silks.

0:49:040:49:07

I was. But today, I should like to confer with Mr Johnson.

0:49:070:49:11

What is it regarding?

0:49:110:49:13

SHE INHALES DEEPLY

0:49:130:49:16

Tea!

0:49:160:49:17

Cranford might seem the right and proper place for a mature actress,

0:49:170:49:22

not taking risks with the unconventional.

0:49:220:49:25

But that's not Dame Judi.

0:49:250:49:27

It's hard to believe Matty Jenkyns is the same actress

0:49:270:49:30

featuring in the world's first film launched on a mobile phone.

0:49:300:49:35

Oh, have I shocked you? Good.

0:49:380:49:41

Rage is an experimental film presented as a video web blog.

0:49:410:49:46

It was released initially over seven days to mobiles,

0:49:470:49:50

the same period covered in the story.

0:49:500:49:53

For an unconventional film, it attracted a world-class cast.

0:49:540:49:59

I phoned her up and sent her a script and said, "Do you fancy it?"

0:49:590:50:03

We spoke on the phone and she said, "It's really scary but I'll do it!"

0:50:030:50:08

That's basically it!

0:50:080:50:10

At a certain point, she had to pull out of her handbag a reefer joint

0:50:100:50:14

and smoke it whilst contemplating mortality, really.

0:50:140:50:20

She wasn't over familiar with smoking joints,

0:50:200:50:23

so we had to get in a young man to tutor her

0:50:230:50:27

in how you hold it, with what fingers,

0:50:270:50:30

how you breath in and so on,

0:50:300:50:31

and this was a cause of enormous weeping levels of hilarity.

0:50:310:50:37

She has an incredible sense of humour.

0:50:370:50:40

They're most desperate, deluded individuals

0:50:460:50:51

who all think they're doing something new.

0:50:510:50:53

But nothing's new in this game.

0:50:530:50:55

I think she was nervous

0:50:550:50:58

about the idea of being so exposed,

0:50:580:51:01

of working with a monologue without another actor to play off,

0:51:010:51:06

because the actors never met each other on this film.

0:51:060:51:09

They each worked for just two days

0:51:090:51:11

and told the whole story through their monologues over that two-day shoot,

0:51:110:51:15

and then I started with the next one.

0:51:150:51:17

I shot the film with a hand-held,

0:51:170:51:19

and so there was me and the soundman and the actor,

0:51:190:51:22

three of us in a really tiny space, and that was how it worked.

0:51:220:51:26

So you'd think, in a way, that was quite safe and containing,

0:51:260:51:30

but in another way, it's a completely exposing situation for an actor.

0:51:300:51:34

There is really nowhere to hide.

0:51:340:51:37

Mona Carvell. Writer.

0:51:370:51:41

Beauty attracts, my child. Beauty is power.

0:51:420:51:46

Which is unfortunate

0:51:460:51:48

because, in fact, it is surface, Michelangelo,

0:51:480:51:52

surface through and through.

0:51:520:51:55

And when the bloom of youth fades,

0:51:560:51:59

only those graced with the right bones will survive.

0:51:590:52:02

What you get with an actor like Judi Dench is more than the role that's written,

0:52:020:52:07

more than the text, more than the part, more than the film.

0:52:070:52:10

More than any one film that she's done, or play or sitcom.

0:52:100:52:14

You're getting a total presence, which is an accumulation of all those things.

0:52:140:52:19

Part of that presence is the uniqueness of her voice,

0:52:190:52:23

which has quite an extraordinary depth and tambour to it,

0:52:230:52:27

a look and an intelligence,

0:52:270:52:31

an intelligence of approach that sort of glows, whatever she's doing.

0:52:310:52:35

She's been a dame for more than 20 years and has a Hollywood Oscar.

0:52:350:52:40

Surely it is time for Dame Judi Dench

0:52:400:52:42

to pick up her pension and put up her feet.

0:52:420:52:45

She's now an international star.

0:52:450:52:48

She's reminiscent of Dame Edith Evans, who I remember interviewing

0:52:480:52:52

and saying to her, "What was it about her that attracted audiences?"

0:52:520:52:56

She said, "I don't know, but I know this,

0:52:560:52:59

"when I walk on stage, I demand 'look at me, at nobody else'."

0:52:590:53:03

In a sense, Judy's got something of that.

0:53:030:53:05

Without being boastful or starry, she has that quality

0:53:050:53:09

to walk onto a stage and attract attention immediately.

0:53:090:53:12

You're drawn to her. And I don't think you can explain what it is.

0:53:120:53:16

It's not looks, it's not size, height, whatever,

0:53:160:53:19

it's something else much more powerful than that.

0:53:190:53:22

And it's to do, I think, as much as anything else, with a kind of self-confidence.

0:53:220:53:27

She surprises me, or rather I'm surprised by her range.

0:53:270:53:31

Like, er, A Little Night Music,

0:53:310:53:35

I mean, Send In The Clowns, I must've seen that three times.

0:53:350:53:39

I've seen Glynis Johns do it, Jean Simmons.

0:53:390:53:42

I never understood what the hell that song was about.

0:53:420:53:44

"What do these lyrics mean? It's a rather turgid song" I always thought.

0:53:440:53:49

Seeing Judi do it,

0:53:490:53:51

the lyrics, the story, what that song is about for that character,

0:53:510:53:55

it was absolutely crystal clear!

0:53:550:53:58

And she's not a singer.

0:53:580:54:00

But she can put over a song,

0:54:000:54:03

and that sort of song, I think, in the most incredible way.

0:54:030:54:07

# Isn't it rich?

0:54:190:54:23

# Are we a pair?

0:54:250:54:28

# Me here at last on the ground

0:54:300:54:34

# You in mid-air

0:54:340:54:38

# Send in the clowns

0:54:400:54:43

# Isn't it bliss?

0:54:500:54:54

# Don't you approve?

0:54:550:54:59

# One who keeps tearing around

0:55:000:55:03

# One who can't move

0:55:030:55:08

# There ought to be clowns

0:55:100:55:13

# Well...

0:55:140:55:17

# Maybe

0:55:170:55:19

# Next year... #

0:55:200:55:25

APPLAUSE

0:55:420:55:44

But there is no swansong for Dame Judi just yet.

0:55:500:55:54

It's as if she's single-handedly set out to prove

0:55:540:55:57

that there is life for actresses of a certain age.

0:55:570:56:02

I think she just improves.

0:56:020:56:04

If you can improve. How can you improve on perfection?

0:56:040:56:08

Everything she does is so good anyway,

0:56:080:56:11

and she throws herself into everything.

0:56:110:56:13

I think it's wonderful for her that she gets the chance to do everything.

0:56:130:56:17

It is so difficult when you get on in years to get the chance to do things,

0:56:170:56:22

so she's flying the flag for all of us.

0:56:220:56:25

You think, "Oh, yes, people can do it."

0:56:250:56:28

She's got great tenacity,

0:56:280:56:29

but also a wonderful, wonderful talent

0:56:290:56:32

that is beyond beauty.

0:56:320:56:35

So in a way, her talent is outside of her ageing.

0:56:350:56:42

So many actresses rely on sexuality or their looks,

0:56:420:56:46

and Dame Judi Dench never needed to do that and she never will.

0:56:460:56:50

She doesn't believe she's beautiful at all, and yet she is.

0:56:500:56:53

She once said to me, "I hate being called attractive. I hate looking at myself on TV."

0:56:530:56:59

I said, "Why?"

0:56:590:57:00

She said, "Because I imagine myself to be a six-foot blonde and beautiful and I'm not!"

0:57:000:57:05

Well, she's somebody else. She's Judi Dench and she's precious.

0:57:050:57:11

She is probably the most talented actress of her generation.

0:57:150:57:19

ALL: Ma'am.

0:57:190:57:20

Without doubt. I can't think of anybody who's in that league,

0:57:200:57:26

who has that special kind of aura about her.

0:57:260:57:29

Books... I wrote.

0:57:290:57:32

SHE WAILS

0:57:320:57:34

She is, quite boringly, everything that everyone says about her.

0:57:340:57:39

It is an awesome talent when you are on stage with it.

0:57:400:57:44

She's an extraordinary actress.

0:57:440:57:46

She can turn from laughter to tears in seconds.

0:57:460:57:50

An incredibly nice person

0:57:520:57:54

who swears, tells dirty stories and gets on with everyone.

0:57:540:57:59

What a cheap way of getting a laugh!

0:57:590:58:02

You want to be in Judi's gang because they're always going to have the most fun.

0:58:020:58:07

I kind of hate her for being what she is,

0:58:080:58:11

but, er,

0:58:110:58:14

I quite like her, too!

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