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Lord Digby Jones is a champion of British business.

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British manufacturing has got so much to be proud of.

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We make furniture, we make shoes, we make high performance motorcars,

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we make volume motorcars, we sell them around the world.

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But it's a constant battle to keep one step ahead of our global rivals.

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Manufacturing at the right product in the right market

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at the right time, it matters enormously.

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To survive, British firms will have to be at the top of their game.

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You're not trying to say, "I'm the cheapest."

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You're trying to say, "I'm the best."

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Now, that is what manufacturing in the UK in the 21st century is about.

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And Digby's determined to play his part.

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In a career that's taken him from his parent's corner shop

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to the House of Lords,

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he's helped transform some iconic British companies.

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Now, in a new challenge, can he help three ambitious companies

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from the worlds of furniture, fashion and electronics to succeed?

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We don't do cheap any more, we can't.

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We actually do quality, brand and innovation.

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That's what's going to make the profit that pays the tax,

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that builds the schools and hospitals.

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He's demanded access all areas...

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Wow! This is pretty big.

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..and he's not afraid to ask the tough questions.

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What part of this do you not understand?

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Ding-dong! Alarm!

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Tonight...

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..can Digby help solve a furniture company's urgent problems...

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This range that we do...

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..is slowly killing us.

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..secure the future of the business...

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We're now getting into the realms of making it real. So, exciting.

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..and help them to strike out in a new direction.

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I'd go with it.

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But it won't always be easy and there are difficult decisions ahead.

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That's why it's time to call in Digby Jones -

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The New Troubleshooter.

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Every home needs furniture.

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So someone has to design...

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..make and sell it.

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And in Great Britain, over 180,000 people do just that.

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Including the men and women of this company,

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Hereford Furniture.

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-All right, Dave?

-All right, Mike?

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Mike Muxworthy's the boss.

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We manufacture wooden cabinets.

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Is this going on?

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We're manufacturing predominantly bedroom furniture.

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We're specialising these days mainly in painted furniture...

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..which is becoming very, very popular.

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To give his retail customers and their own three West Midland shops

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plenty of choice, they supplement what they make

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by importing furniture from China.

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I now have back-ache,

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which is what you expect at my age, unloading this kind of thing.

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Carrying some of Mike's workload is Kate,

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his sales and marketing manager, who's also his youngest daughter.

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-No, you can't have a wage increase.

-SHE LAUGHS

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Over 1,200 furniture manufacturers went bust during the recession,

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and having made a loss of £80,000 for the first time last year,

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they're thinking about their future.

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We've had our fingers burned that many times.

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It's a worry at the minute.

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The question of survival is there,

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so it's always at the back of our minds.

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We have every confidence in the company,

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but we are also aware that things could fail.

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But with the future of over 40 staff on the line,

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failure is not an option for Lord Digby Jones.

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You're giving me loads of reasons why you can't.

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His mission -

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to turn survival into success and secure the future of the workforce.

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But do they think he's the right man for the job?

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If there's anybody out there that can give us a hand,

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which I think this Mr Digby can, it'll be more than welcome.

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He might be able to make it better than what it is.

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Anyone could be useful around here, but he definitely could.

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Could show our boss a few things.

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He'd walk around here in five minutes and know what it's about.

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-Basically.

-THEY LAUGH

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This is almost the last stop.

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I'm nearly 60 and I want to go out, when I do finally retire,

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leaving a fantastic business that we've built from nothing

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to something that hopefully will become a household name nationwide.

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It's a big dream, but you've got to aim high.

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Aim for the stars and you get somewhere just below -

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that's what we've got to keep doing.

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Digby Jones is making an early start.

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He has five months

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to help turn around the fortune of Hereford Furniture.

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Championing small and medium sized businesses

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like them is his passion.

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Put together, they employ 14 million people

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and turn over £1.6 trillion a year.

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Small business in communities are the bedrock of providing profit

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which delivers the taxation which we all need.

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The days of thinking that every businessman or woman

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who succeeds is for some reason a fat cat, I hope, are over.

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But to help this business succeed, Digby needs to get under its skin.

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He's been doing his homework.

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The business has been doing reasonably well, actually,

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for a few years, but in the last year or so it's now losing money.

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They've gone off in all directions.

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And they tend to have done things

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because instinctively it seemed like a good idea.

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I might be wrong, but off the page it looks like that.

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And if I'm wrong, why are they losing money?

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Big questions for the bosses, but they'll have to wait.

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Digby wants to hit the floor

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and meet the guys at the heart of the business.

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-We'll go into the mill first.

-Right down to the mill.

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Ops manager Tony Lewis is showing him around the factory.

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-This is Gary, this is our sawman, Gary Cooper.

-Hello, Gary.

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Don't worry about that. Where there's muck there's brass, lad.

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Don't worry about that at all.

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15,000 pieces of furniture come out of this factory every year.

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I'm a sawyer. My job's a sawyer.

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At the moment I'm cutting T&G for drawer bottoms.

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How long have you been doing this for?

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-With this firm, nearly seven years.

-Have you really?

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Next, Digby is taken to see the company's jewel in the crown.

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-This is our paint shop.

-Ah, right.

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White wood comes in built, comes in on the line there,

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and any indentations, any marks we fill.

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The quality of the paint finish

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adds 25% to the final price-tag of the furniture.

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I love it. I love the sense of achievement you get

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when you see the final product going out the door to the customer.

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We've got such a good finish on the paint now,

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and the stain finishes.

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This, to me, summarises all my beliefs.

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I was born into a community of manufacturing,

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a spanner's throw from the Austin motor company and I'm just thrilled

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to bits that that kid in Birmingham some 50 years ago,

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actually, can still today come to places where they make things.

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And I love that.

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If I stop a man with a drill it's always worrying.

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-I'm Digby. You're...?

-I'm Tom.

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'Do I think there's something to work on here? Yes, I do.'

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Will I enjoy doing it? You bet I will.

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If there was one thing this business could do

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that would make your job more efficient and easy, what would it be?

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-It would be organisation, I think.

-Yeah? In what way?

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Just...this is the production area and we all work together,

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the spray shop all work together,

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and then the machine shop work together,

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but no-one works as a whole together.

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When you probe and ask the questions,

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they know this could be done more efficiently.

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They know the systems in place are not conducive

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to productivity enhancement and greater efficiency.

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Digby knows that tackling inefficiency

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is one thing vital to the company's future.

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To find out what other issues he'll have to deal with,

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it's time to meet the management.

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In the factory showroom, Mike wants Digby to see their flagship range.

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This is the future.

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This is what we paint.

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The customers can have various different heights, widths,

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different colours and they can have it delivered whenever they want it.

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He's seen the product,

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now Digby wants to understand the business structure.

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I look at this company

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as we've now got three divisions within one company.

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The one we're most proud of is, I guess, our manufacturing process.

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To complement what we manufacture we import products from China.

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We can get nice products made in China and they're beautiful quality.

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Then, a third string to the bow,

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we've started our own retail operation.

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We've got three shops, and between what we manufacture

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and what we import, we can fill quite large shops

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and give the customer, the final customer, a real good choice.

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But you sell through other routes and channels as well?

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Our biggest market, still,

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is through independent retailers throughout the UK.

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By manufacturing, importing and retailing,

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they are effectively three businesses in one.

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It's a huge challenge, but can they cope?

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If I look around here, how many different products have you got?

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I think we have something in the region of...

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in terms of all options, colour choices...

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in the region of 15,000...

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-What?!

-..product options.

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I think that's a bit on the high side, a bit on the high side.

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But we've certainly got too many.

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If it's a bit on the high side, by how many?

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-I would say we've got 2,000 variations.

-Oh?

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2,000 to 15,000 isn't a bit.

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I think... I think that's completely wrong.

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During the recession what's kept us alive is we've got choice.

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We've got as much to offer anybody.

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You can come in to our shop and you'll find something you like.

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However, this range that we do...

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..is slowly killing us.

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Brutally honest words from Mike,

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but how seriously is it affecting the company bank balance?

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-Digby, Jakob Reilly. Reilly.

-Hello.

-Nice to meet you.

-Good to see you.

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Jakob Reilly's family own 75% of the company,

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with Mike owning the other 25.

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So with their own financial security at stake,

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it's vital they don't continue to lose money

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like they have in the last 12 months.

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You're looking at sort of 300... Just under £300,000 less. Why?

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It's too easy to be an importer, to be honest.

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There is a glut of imported products on the market.

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So, did the market contract or did your share of the market contract?

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-Our share of the market contracted.

-Why?

-Too many new players coming in.

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And why on your own "made here" has it gone backwards?

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That's got nothing to do with imported furniture at all.

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Why have the sales of your Made In Hereford product gone down?

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OK. The reason we've gone down is the number of accounts

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-that we've lost that have gone bust.

-Selling your manufactured goods.

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Looking at this, surely there's an alarm bell ringing somewhere?

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Of course. None of us, really,

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have been involved in a loss-making business before,

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so we are entering new ground.

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And it's quite scary ground, I have to admit.

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But we are 100% behind Mike.

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We know that the backdrop that he's working against is extremely tough.

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It's clear Digby has a lot to think about,

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but he wants Mike and Kate to think about one thing straightaway.

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I want you to just think about how you would answer this question.

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You're trying to make stuff, you're trying to import stuff

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and then you're trying to retail stuff.

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Now, if you can pull it off, fine,

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but you're going to dissipate your talent,

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dissipate your working capital.

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This business really can't go on doing three things.

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It's got to focus.

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It's perfectly obvious they haven't drilled down

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into which of those three is making them real money,

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which isn't, which is subsidising what.

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So, they've responded with a bit of inspiration, a bit of flair

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and they've got themselves to a position

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where they like where they are in terms of what they do,

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but they don't like the result - which is losing money.

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So, they've got some big questions.

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When somebody really points it out, you do sit back and you think,

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"How have we let this happen?"

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It's not from a desire to want to make a loss.

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We've got a desire to make a profit, make a good business

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and make employment here in Hereford for all the people.

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Hopefully, Lord Jones will steer us in the right direction.

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Over the last 20 years, some of the biggest players

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in the furniture industry have faced financial difficulties.

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But we still spend around £7 billion

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on British-made furniture every year.

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That's equivalent to just over £100 for every man,

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woman and child in the UK.

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So, how can a medium-sized company like Hereford Furniture

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compete with the big household names?

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Digby's going to ask Paul Van Der Heyde,

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who knows what he's talking about.

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He's head of the British Furniture Confederation.

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I'm an ignoramus of the sector, so I have this idea

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that the market is swamped by flat-packs from Sweden.

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-Would I be right?

-I think you're wrong.

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And we can talk about particularly a large Swedish retailer.

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They have, I think, been a very good influence on British furniture.

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They woke up people to the prospect that actually,

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changing your furniture can be a good thing.

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And they haven't won the battle.

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They represent a very small percentage of our UK furniture.

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So, five years on from today,

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do you expect the import side of the sector to be greater than today,

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-proportionately, or less?

-I hope it will be less.

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I think the cost of bringing furniture in from overseas -

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be it just the logistics costs or just the timetable -

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costs of bringing it over get more and more difficult

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so the opportunity is there for us to grab

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to make sure we make more of what people want in the UK efficiently.

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So, a chance of survival. But what do people want?

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As author and editor-at-large of one of the UK's biggest design mags,

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it's Henrietta Thompson's job to know.

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And she's seen a growing trend in Hereford Furniture's target market.

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I think what's been interesting in the last few years

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is that there's been very little in the middle market.

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For that middle class customer.

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I think it's been very, very high-end,

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where you buy your Italian leather sofa for thousands and thousands

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or it's been...it's been very low cost.

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-Flat-packish.

-Flat-packish.

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So, it's quite a good time, at the moment,

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to be in the game of selling people furniture?

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You think the buying appetite has changed?

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I really do, actually.

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I think that people are increasingly wanting

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to express their personalities through their homes.

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I think that people are really more design aware

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then they've been...well, ever, really.

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And there's more exciting stuff to choose from.

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And do you think that people will pay more for quirky and a bit different?

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Innovation doesn't have to be quirky. It can be clever.

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It can just be doing something differently,

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it could be a new material.

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And whether people pay more for that? Yes, if it's done well enough.

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So, there is a market ready to spend on the right product

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but to beat the foreign names, UK manufacturers like Hereford

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will have to work hard to attract customers.

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But are Mike and the team doing enough?

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After a final fact-finding tour

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of their shops in Sutton Coldfield and Kidderminster...

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We have the Union Jack here as well. Marvellous.

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..Digby's ready to thrash it out with Mike, Kate

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and shareholder, Alan Reilly.

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We need a big conversation now.

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I've had a good look at the factory, I've had a good look at the outlets.

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First up, that nagging point for Digby.

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You are a manufacturer, you are a retailer, and you import.

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I wonder whether it is possible for you

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to effectively succeed in all three.

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Tell me why I'm right or why I'm wrong.

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I feel we've got something very, very special.

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And my answer is,

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why not? We can do it.

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Why not? Because you haven't persuaded me

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that the specialist knowledge needed to make a success of retail,

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the specialist knowledge needed

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to make a success of import and distribution

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and the specialist knowledge needed to be a manufacturer...

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I don't think you've persuaded me that you've got sufficient ability

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within the three of you to make a success of it two or three years out.

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I think as far as...

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By the way, you might have specialist knowledge

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to do one of those things extremely well.

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So, I'm not saying you're not good enough.

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I'm saying, are you good enough to do all three?

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But Digby has to move on to immediate worries.

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The business wants to be a recognised, household name,

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but they don't display their brand on their furniture.

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I can't understand for the life of me

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how a company that wants to promote the brand Hereford

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is prepared to have its products put somewhere

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without the name Hereford on it.

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At the moment, with our current supportive network of customers,

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we're not brave enough to brand everything as Hereford Furniture.

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Our brand and our pockets are not deep enough

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to be able to say, "Right, 50% of our business,

0:19:110:19:14

"we're going to say you either brand it or you don't buy it.

0:19:140:19:17

"You're not buying? Fine, OK."

0:19:170:19:19

So, suddenly, my losses of £80,000 will be a loss of £200,000.

0:19:190:19:23

-Mike...

-Digby, what are we doing...

0:19:240:19:27

..how can you hope to build a brand when,

0:19:270:19:30

by your actions, you value it so little?

0:19:300:19:33

Right. What we are going to do,

0:19:330:19:35

and this is an announcement that I can make here and now.

0:19:350:19:39

We are introducing Hereford By Design.

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And Hereford By Design products will only be sold to companies

0:19:420:19:46

that are prepared to sell it as branded product.

0:19:460:19:51

When did you think of this?

0:19:510:19:53

It's been mulling around for a number of months.

0:19:530:19:57

-When did you...

-On Monday...

-After I visited you!

0:19:570:20:00

-Yes.

-Well, that's all been worth it then, hasn't it!

0:20:000:20:03

HE LAUGHS Quite right too!

0:20:030:20:06

See? You're getting value for money already!

0:20:060:20:09

But the time for laughter is over.

0:20:100:20:13

With four months to make a difference,

0:20:130:20:15

Digby's revolution must begin.

0:20:150:20:18

Managing production and range can have a dramatic effect on profits.

0:20:210:20:25

In the late '90s, consumer goods giant Unilever cut 700 brands

0:20:250:20:30

from its portfolio and saved over a billion pounds in the process.

0:20:300:20:35

Digby thinks that if Mike did the same,

0:20:390:20:42

he could make huge savings too.

0:20:420:20:44

And as one of Britain's best-connected business leaders,

0:20:440:20:47

Digby knows just the man to make it happen.

0:20:470:20:50

PHONE RINGS

0:20:500:20:52

-Good morning, Stewart.

-Good morning.

0:20:520:20:55

He's been friends with Stewart Towe

0:20:550:20:57

since playing rugby at school together 40 years ago.

0:20:570:21:01

What this is about is, instinctively,

0:21:020:21:05

there's a better way of becoming more productive,

0:21:050:21:07

more efficient in how they make the stuff.

0:21:070:21:10

In 1976, Stewart joined a steel rolling business

0:21:120:21:16

and 30 years later, he bought it.

0:21:160:21:19

His focus on efficiency helps the company

0:21:210:21:23

hit clear profit of £7 million a year.

0:21:230:21:26

We can get one man on each shift

0:21:290:21:31

producing around half a million pounds worth of product every month.

0:21:310:21:34

I think there's a bit of a lack of crackle.

0:21:370:21:40

The workforce, they haven't had pay rises for a couple of years,

0:21:400:21:43

they're under the cosh a bit and I could just do with you

0:21:430:21:46

smelling it and saying what you think.

0:21:460:21:49

Look forward to seeing the process and taking it forward.

0:21:490:21:52

All the best to you. Take care.

0:21:520:21:55

Mike's modest 36,000 square foot factory

0:22:020:22:05

produces a huge range of furniture.

0:22:050:22:08

It can't cope.

0:22:080:22:10

This is the biggest single threat to the business.

0:22:100:22:12

We are struggling,

0:22:120:22:14

there's not a lot of orders in and we've got a lot of problems.

0:22:140:22:17

You lose confidence in yourself and your own ability.

0:22:170:22:20

We can't carry on. Our planning system is chaotic.

0:22:200:22:25

If we don't change, we will fail.

0:22:250:22:28

So, let's at least plan what we're going to do

0:22:280:22:31

and give ourselves a chance than carry on in this chaos.

0:22:310:22:34

Stewart sets about his investigation.

0:22:400:22:43

Four hours of walking the floor...

0:22:430:22:45

..and meeting the workers.

0:22:480:22:50

It's communication between, like, management to supervisors

0:22:500:22:53

down to us on the thing, like.

0:22:530:22:56

We need to plan a bit better, really.

0:22:560:22:58

If we were just building for stock it would be so much more efficient,

0:22:580:23:01

when you start doing just one bed, two chests, one wardrobe.

0:23:010:23:07

Without the money to refit the factory, efficiencies have to come

0:23:070:23:10

by reducing the range the workforce makes.

0:23:100:23:13

Creating that balance between the number of products that you offer

0:23:140:23:17

and the efficiency and effectiveness of the factory

0:23:170:23:21

is perhaps one of your biggest challenges.

0:23:210:23:23

Absolutely. I would say the biggest.

0:23:230:23:25

And if that's the challenge,

0:23:250:23:27

Stewart's there to help Mike find the solution.

0:23:270:23:31

Specifically, what have you in your mind

0:23:310:23:34

as to the areas you're going to limit?

0:23:340:23:37

So, is it about drawer configuration?

0:23:370:23:40

Sizes? Colours? What do you think is the main aspect?

0:23:400:23:45

What we've got to do is to cull some of the ranges

0:23:450:23:48

and be quite hard in culling.

0:23:480:23:50

If we had a maximum of 20 pieces in the range...

0:23:500:23:54

-As against a current number of approximately how many?

-A thousand.

0:23:540:23:59

Radically, Mike is considering dropping

0:24:010:24:04

49 out of every 50 product options.

0:24:040:24:07

I mean, it's very interesting when we talk

0:24:070:24:09

that we're all singing from the same hymn sheet.

0:24:090:24:12

-Absolutely.

-Which is great.

0:24:120:24:14

Now we've just got to have the courage of our convictions

0:24:140:24:17

-to just get on and do it.

-Get on and do it! Absolutely.

0:24:170:24:20

That's going to be the key to the next couple of months.

0:24:200:24:23

And probably for the future of the business.

0:24:230:24:25

All Mike has to do now is tell the lads on the floor.

0:24:310:24:35

Hello, gentlemen. Can we just have five minutes?

0:24:380:24:41

What we will be doing, probably from the new year,

0:24:430:24:47

is we will cut a lot of the ranges and we will only build for stock.

0:24:470:24:53

The big thing for us, I guess,

0:24:530:24:55

is we've got to try and get the customer to order what we make.

0:24:550:24:58

We're going to get 40% more out.

0:24:580:25:00

So, you'll need a faster screwdriver, Dave.

0:25:020:25:06

-OK.

-OK. Thank you, gentlemen.

0:25:060:25:08

That means we get a bigger bonus, Mike, yeah?

0:25:110:25:13

-Pardon?

-Does that mean we get a bigger bonus next year?

0:25:130:25:16

Well, one thing that would be nice,

0:25:160:25:18

-you know we have this share of profits?

-Yeah.

0:25:180:25:20

Well, this year, of course, we've got a share of losses.

0:25:200:25:23

So, I'll be coming round with a little cup saying,

0:25:230:25:26

-"10% of our losses, please."

-I've made no losses!

0:25:260:25:30

With that gentlemen Mr Digby coming down,

0:25:340:25:36

I think they're starting to listen to him a bit.

0:25:360:25:40

We're just mere mortals, us.

0:25:400:25:42

With somebody with power like that, maybe they'll listen to him.

0:25:420:25:45

If Hereford Furniture wasn't here, where would I get a job?

0:25:450:25:48

63 years of age, nobody would employ me.

0:25:480:25:51

It's important that he makes the right decisions

0:25:510:25:54

for everybody that works in the factory.

0:25:540:25:57

So, Mike has committed to a plan

0:26:110:26:13

which should make them more efficient.

0:26:130:26:16

Digby wants more. Have they crunched their numbers?

0:26:160:26:20

I just would like you to comfort me

0:26:200:26:22

that there is some pretty hard analytical financials behind this.

0:26:220:26:28

They're talking figures again,

0:26:300:26:32

so Mike has brought co-director Jakob for support.

0:26:320:26:36

When you say the financials,

0:26:360:26:38

if we reduce the number of models we're doing,

0:26:380:26:42

which means that we can then manufacture for stock,

0:26:420:26:45

-we will get 40% more through the works in one week.

-Right.

0:26:450:26:48

From a cash-flow point of view, that's sustainable, is it?

0:26:480:26:52

-We think so, yeah.

-You've run the numbers on that, have you?

0:26:520:26:55

Haven't done a cash flow forecast, no.

0:26:550:26:57

-Based on what they're going to do?

-It's something...

0:26:570:27:00

We are stepping somewhat into the unknown.

0:27:000:27:02

I understand that, but can you give me a bit of paper, Jakob,

0:27:020:27:06

that actually says THAT is the financial implication?

0:27:060:27:09

-Not at the moment.

-Right, when would you be able to do that by?

0:27:090:27:12

We don't have enough accounting resource in the company.

0:27:120:27:15

We are very small. We have a book-keeper, she's very, very busy.

0:27:150:27:18

-Mike, we would have to sit down and do it.

-We can do it...

0:27:180:27:21

You're going to have to do it, you know,

0:27:210:27:23

I might be the pain in the bum that has to tell you this

0:27:230:27:25

but actually, I'm the least important person for why you need this paper.

0:27:250:27:29

-The real people are you.

-Yeah.

0:27:290:27:31

Because if you get it right and you get the template,

0:27:310:27:34

you can feed in figures and you can feed in things,

0:27:340:27:37

so you know where you are.

0:27:370:27:40

And good quality, profitable businesses go bust

0:27:410:27:44

simply because they're not managing their cash.

0:27:440:27:47

Do you know something that struck me early doors today

0:27:530:27:56

was that they knew they were coming to this meeting

0:27:560:27:59

and they knew the financial ramifications of this big change.

0:27:590:28:03

They didn't have one figure they could tell me

0:28:030:28:07

was a material evidence of change

0:28:070:28:11

that they expected or that was happening.

0:28:110:28:13

It's very strange in a business.

0:28:130:28:15

-I don't understand the need...

-Why we would need to budget.

0:28:150:28:20

I mean, we do a budget every day, every week.

0:28:200:28:23

I know where the turnover should be, where we need to be.

0:28:230:28:27

-Yeah.

-Budgets are always down to guesstimates anyway.

0:28:270:28:33

I think he's talking from the perspective

0:28:330:28:35

that that's the formal way of doing it.

0:28:350:28:38

That's the textbook way to plan

0:28:380:28:40

when you make a big change, and he's not wrong.

0:28:400:28:44

You never know. You might find that having done it, you think...

0:28:440:28:47

"Why haven't we done it before?" OK.

0:28:470:28:50

If it's not too onerous, if we can do it and it's easy to do,

0:28:500:28:53

-then why not continue doing it? We'll see.

-OK, OK. Right.

0:28:530:28:59

With the range reduction under way,

0:29:200:29:23

Digby wants to sort out their second big issue.

0:29:230:29:26

Mike and the team want to launch a new,

0:29:260:29:29

exclusive brand called Hereford By Design.

0:29:290:29:33

But is it a brand that the UK market actually wants?

0:29:330:29:36

Digby needs to see proof and if that wasn't hard enough...

0:29:360:29:40

..they have to prove it to Emma Bridgewater too.

0:29:430:29:45

Starting from her kitchen table in 1985,

0:29:480:29:51

Emma now has 250 staff and a turnover of £14 million a year.

0:29:510:29:56

Her brand is so strong that people around the world

0:30:000:30:03

are happy to spend up to £20 a mug.

0:30:030:30:05

Digby thinks that's a lesson for all manufacturers,

0:30:070:30:11

including Mike and Kate who, along with shareholder Louise Powell,

0:30:110:30:15

have prepared a presentation.

0:30:150:30:17

We're obviously making some drastic changes to the business.

0:30:190:30:22

Emma's been there, she's done it, she's created a brand.

0:30:220:30:26

And if we can take a little bit of her success away with us,

0:30:260:30:29

I think we'd be very happy.

0:30:290:30:31

For Digby, getting the rebrand right

0:30:380:30:41

is about more than just a new name for Hereford Furniture.

0:30:410:30:45

They're going to rationalise the range,

0:30:450:30:47

they're going to narrow it and focus it.

0:30:470:30:50

That's going to work for lots of back office reasons,

0:30:500:30:52

it'll make them more money, enhance productivity,

0:30:520:30:56

but it'll only work if they get customers buying.

0:30:560:30:58

It'll only work if they can communicate with the customer

0:30:580:31:02

and say, "This is why it's good for you, Mrs Customer, Mr Customer."

0:31:020:31:06

That is something you've done really well.

0:31:060:31:08

Whether it's the end user or whether it's a shopkeeper,

0:31:080:31:12

you've got to know a lot about what's motivating them,

0:31:120:31:14

what's making them tick.

0:31:140:31:16

And finding that out and responding to that is something that...

0:31:160:31:19

when we started to understand that,

0:31:190:31:21

that was a massive big, big step change in our business.

0:31:210:31:25

This is their moment to impress.

0:31:260:31:29

Nationwide, our brand is invisible, it is unknown.

0:31:300:31:34

Consumers have absolutely no awareness of Hereford Furniture.

0:31:340:31:38

We need a vehicle for change to get from where we are

0:31:390:31:42

to where we want to be - the vehicle that we have is Hereford By Design.

0:31:420:31:48

What we're going to do is take our current ranges and upgrade them.

0:31:480:31:52

They will become premium ranges that have additional features.

0:31:520:31:56

-This is very nice and clean and...

-But it's not high design.

0:31:570:32:03

-Have you got plans to make them stand out?

-We have.

0:32:030:32:08

We now have soft close drawers that have integrated

0:32:080:32:12

to raise the quality and appeal.

0:32:120:32:14

And that's very nice. I know. I take that.

0:32:140:32:18

How are you going to make that something that I don't walk past?

0:32:180:32:22

Soft closing drawers and smooth paint finishes

0:32:240:32:27

clearly aren't doing it for Emma.

0:32:270:32:29

But Louise is ready to play their trump card.

0:32:300:32:33

When we were looking at our brand strategy,

0:32:340:32:36

I had a feeling or concept I wanted to put over in everything we do.

0:32:360:32:40

My mother's Danish.

0:32:400:32:42

Now, I couldn't find a word in the English language

0:32:420:32:45

but there is the perfect word in the Danish language.

0:32:450:32:48

The word is hygge.

0:32:480:32:50

It's about social interaction, it's about belonging.

0:32:500:32:53

It's about being at home and wanting to be there.

0:32:530:32:56

It's a warm, glowing, lovely feeling

0:32:560:32:58

and that's what we would like our brand to encompass,

0:32:580:33:02

this feeling of hygge.

0:33:020:33:04

You've given us some interesting high aspirations,

0:33:060:33:09

but not hearing a connect about how you're going to make sure

0:33:090:33:12

the design changes are actually going to have

0:33:120:33:14

a "buy me" effect on the customer?

0:33:140:33:16

The tiniest design detail can make all the difference

0:33:220:33:25

when it comes to brand, as Emma is keen to point out.

0:33:250:33:28

This is all sponge decorating in here.

0:33:300:33:32

What Hannah does is to do the whole pattern

0:33:320:33:36

-and sign it.

-That's my initials on the plate.

0:33:360:33:40

-It's quite a nice thought, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:33:400:33:43

That they're signed by you. I really love that.

0:33:430:33:45

Saying, "Wow! Hannah's done this."

0:33:450:33:47

"Hannah's doing lovely work." Exactly right.

0:33:470:33:50

It says this is handmade, unequivocally.

0:33:500:33:54

And each of the people who works on it owns that part of the process.

0:33:540:33:59

Tour over, and it's time for feedback.

0:34:020:34:04

Do Emma and Digby think that the Hereford By Design brand

0:34:060:34:09

is strong enough to go to market?

0:34:090:34:11

How are you going to give the word Hereford the wow factor?

0:34:120:34:15

Why is Hereford going to be something where I go...pow!

0:34:150:34:18

When I say I want more, I want design.

0:34:180:34:21

And by that I don't mean a smooth paint finish.

0:34:210:34:25

Go mad. Where's the red? Where's the dark blue?

0:34:250:34:28

But how many do you sell?

0:34:280:34:31

-Well, you don't know and neither do I.

-Yeah.

0:34:310:34:33

That's no reason why you shouldn't be offering some dark blue,

0:34:330:34:36

some dark purple, some orange.

0:34:360:34:38

Extraordinary colours and they might be in tiny numbers,

0:34:380:34:41

they might only be ones.

0:34:410:34:42

Until you do something like that, nobody talks about you on Facebook.

0:34:420:34:45

Because if people are going to start talking about you,

0:34:450:34:49

which is the desired intention,

0:34:490:34:52

the word Hereford - is it the right word?

0:34:520:34:55

Because one thing you did influence both of us

0:34:570:35:00

-this morning with was that.

-We loved that.

0:35:000:35:03

With a great respect, Hereford doesn't carry, for me,

0:35:030:35:07

a cache that's going to make me go "wow".

0:35:070:35:10

That just sounds sensible, doesn't it?

0:35:100:35:13

It sounds what this is - functional, decent, value for money and boring.

0:35:130:35:19

-THEY LAUGH

-Thank you!

0:35:200:35:23

It is really interesting to compare. Which do you like best?

0:35:240:35:29

So, why would you want to go on doing this?

0:35:300:35:33

The Danish brand idea has struck a chord

0:35:340:35:37

with everyone at the table and the conversation is about to take a turn

0:35:370:35:41

that could change the face of Hereford Furniture forever.

0:35:410:35:45

So, if we're at a point where we don't have a recognisable brand,

0:35:460:35:50

because we're at a point of zero,

0:35:500:35:53

do we go straight to this rather than going Hereford By Design?

0:35:530:35:58

-How bold do you feel?

-And then eventually go for this?

0:35:580:36:02

Digby, last time we met you said you've got to be brave.

0:36:020:36:05

-I'll go with it.

-EMMA GASPS

0:36:080:36:11

Well, there we go! That's fantastic!

0:36:110:36:13

Because it gives us a skeleton and it gives us personality.

0:36:130:36:17

-You can't wait to get at it.

-Yeah, let's go!

0:36:190:36:22

It's been decided, they're going to ditch their

0:36:220:36:25

Hereford By Design brand and want to replace it with Hygge.

0:36:250:36:30

The one great thing about this wonderful Danish word

0:36:310:36:34

that doesn't have a definition in English is that it's going to excite

0:36:340:36:39

in people the question, "What's this about? What's this mean?"

0:36:390:36:43

It therefore demands an answer and you get an excuse to start

0:36:430:36:46

talking about your product and your brand and your beliefs

0:36:460:36:49

and you begin to create a feeling more than the product on its own.

0:36:490:36:54

And I think that's inspired today and I take my hat off to them.

0:36:550:36:58

-Okey-doke.

-All right?

-Yeah.

0:37:000:37:03

I know we have obstacles that we need to overcome in production,

0:37:040:37:08

but it's certainly a vehicle by which we can do that.

0:37:080:37:11

We've got to do it, we've just spent the last six weeks

0:37:120:37:15

rationalising our products and rationalising colours.

0:37:150:37:19

And I think that's a fair enough, from a production point of view

0:37:190:37:22

but it's when we talk about we're making for stock for three days,

0:37:220:37:25

-and two days a week we can...

-We can make specials.

0:37:250:37:27

Exactly. And if those are going to have a higher price point

0:37:270:37:30

and be real specials and exclusive to our company then yeah, why not?

0:37:300:37:36

It doesn't matter if you paint them pink with yellow spots!

0:37:360:37:39

-Or Emma Bridgewater polka dot!

-Or any other kind of spots! Yeah!

0:37:390:37:42

It's 24 hours since the visit to Emma Bridgewater

0:37:560:38:01

and Kate's still buzzing about their new Danish brand name.

0:38:010:38:06

It's a concept that we are trying to register

0:38:060:38:08

which is a little bit difficult when you try and pin it down to words,

0:38:080:38:12

meaning and classifications.

0:38:120:38:14

She has spent the last hour on the phone

0:38:140:38:16

to the Intellectual Property Office.

0:38:160:38:18

It's quite a straightforward process but you need to register

0:38:180:38:23

both the name and format that you'd want it to look like.

0:38:230:38:26

We don't want to limit ourselves

0:38:260:38:28

in terms of just applying it to furniture, for example,

0:38:280:38:32

when in the future we could look at using it for our advertising

0:38:320:38:36

or for home accessories.

0:38:360:38:38

So, we are getting into the realms of making it real.

0:38:380:38:40

So, exciting.

0:38:400:38:42

But Kate's excitement is not shared by her dad in the boardroom.

0:38:430:38:47

What's that?

0:38:480:38:50

All that is is the month's P&R, which we know is out because...

0:38:500:38:53

Digby wants Mike and Jakob to prepare a cash flow forecast

0:38:530:38:57

to support their range reduction.

0:38:570:38:59

The point seems to be lost on Mike.

0:39:000:39:03

The end goal of this exercise is to make Digby happy.

0:39:030:39:06

Could there be any other benefits too?

0:39:130:39:16

I don't think so because I know what I'm expecting.

0:39:160:39:18

We know the business extremely well

0:39:180:39:21

and you know what the break even figure is,

0:39:210:39:24

so it's quite simple that if you can sell more

0:39:240:39:26

without increasing your overhead, you'll be better off.

0:39:260:39:30

If you sell less and you don't reach your overhead, you will lose money.

0:39:320:39:37

So, we've spent probably five hours doing a projection and forecasts

0:39:380:39:43

and it hasn't really proven anything, it's only a guesstimate.

0:39:430:39:47

If we sell X amount we will make a profit.

0:39:470:39:49

If we don't, we won't. End of.

0:39:490:39:53

A week later, and Digby has received Mike and Jakob's figures.

0:40:000:40:05

But they haven't given him enough detail.

0:40:050:40:07

When I first came to see you that morning -

0:40:070:40:10

what seems like an eternity ago, but was only a few weeks -

0:40:100:40:13

but when I came to see you and I looked through the figures

0:40:130:40:16

and I then look through these tonight,

0:40:160:40:18

I'm not seeing that much difference actually.

0:40:180:40:20

Well, you're seeing a reduction in stock, actually, of £200,000.

0:40:200:40:23

I am. That's true.

0:40:230:40:25

If I'm being polite, I'd say it needs a bit more work.

0:40:250:40:28

If I'm being harsher, I'd say take it away and think again.

0:40:280:40:32

When are you able to come and show us how to do it?

0:40:320:40:36

Sure, that's the next step, isn't it, really...

0:40:360:40:39

A frustrating conversation for Digby,

0:40:420:40:45

but now his thoughts turn to the company's new Danish branding idea.

0:40:450:40:49

The brand can be British,

0:40:510:40:54

although it comes from a different country in its stem, if you like.

0:40:540:40:58

There's nothing wrong with that.

0:40:580:41:00

You can't get much more British than Norwich Union,

0:41:000:41:03

and yet Aviva is a Spanish name.

0:41:030:41:05

So, there's nothing wrong with taking

0:41:050:41:10

a Scandinavian name and going out to market "from Britain",

0:41:100:41:16

proud of its British heritage.

0:41:160:41:18

Nothing wrong with that at all.

0:41:180:41:20

It's how you do it and what you do it and whether you get them

0:41:200:41:22

to buy into it and whether you get them to go forward.

0:41:220:41:26

I think Kate gets it. She's there.

0:41:260:41:28

But the guy who's built the business up,

0:41:290:41:32

he's having a bit more problem getting there.

0:41:320:41:34

He knows he should. He's not lying to me or to himself.

0:41:340:41:37

He knows he should.

0:41:370:41:39

It just takes a little bit longer to get the water wings off

0:41:390:41:43

and leave the side of the pool.

0:41:430:41:45

There's only two months before Digby's consultation ends,

0:41:560:42:00

and with major changes happening,

0:42:000:42:02

he wants to know how it's going down with the men on the floor.

0:42:020:42:07

Could we get all the guys in the mill together

0:42:070:42:09

and bring them here for two minutes so I can have a chat with them?

0:42:090:42:13

Mike has moved key staff around

0:42:130:42:16

to try and improve communication and productivity.

0:42:160:42:19

But has it worked?

0:42:190:42:22

I mean, you are aware that we've hopefully got a change going on

0:42:220:42:25

in the way...what you make for.

0:42:250:42:27

You make for stock and it's all changed.

0:42:270:42:30

Am I getting a nod?

0:42:300:42:32

It's changed since Dave's gone over there.

0:42:320:42:34

It's easier to talk to Dave now,

0:42:340:42:36

cos he's taken charge over there and it's easier for us to talk to him.

0:42:360:42:43

-What do you think, Dave?

-I think it's gradually going to get better,

0:42:430:42:47

me being from the spray shop anyway. I know what it's like.

0:42:470:42:51

I think the trouble is when an area gets behind,

0:42:510:42:53

they seem to blame another area.

0:42:530:42:56

That's where the bitchiness comes from.

0:42:560:42:59

So that we are against each other, sort of thing.

0:42:590:43:02

I think if there's any problems, I think people think

0:43:020:43:05

you're having a go at them and they're taking it personally.

0:43:050:43:08

When it's not actually personal. It's not like that.

0:43:080:43:12

This is a real eye opener for Digby.

0:43:120:43:14

If Mike's going to push through with changes, he needs his staff on side.

0:43:140:43:18

At this late stage, Digby can't let communication issues ruin his plans.

0:43:180:43:24

It is clear to me that there is a changed air down there.

0:43:260:43:30

One or two of them said to me, "I can see there are changes coming in.

0:43:300:43:34

"We're making more for stock and stuff." Do not be complacent.

0:43:340:43:38

It's going in the right direction but you've got a long way to go

0:43:380:43:42

on the communication issue. They've all said that.

0:43:420:43:45

Shouldn't be seen by you as a criticism you should run away from,

0:43:450:43:50

you should actually think, "Actually, I'm quite pleased about this

0:43:500:43:54

"and I'm heartened and I'm going to do more."

0:43:540:43:57

With Digby's words ringing in his ears,

0:43:590:44:01

Mike sits down with the senior team for an honest chat.

0:44:010:44:05

We have got to work together.

0:44:050:44:07

It's not loads of things, it's not all the time. It's the odd thing.

0:44:070:44:10

I don't think it is, but we need to get it right.

0:44:100:44:13

I'm thrilled at the way we've got the leaders of the teams

0:44:130:44:17

to understand the issue and to have the courage to turn up

0:44:170:44:21

and say, "Hey, I want a bit more of the old up-down communication."

0:44:210:44:25

I'm very pleased about that.

0:44:250:44:27

If something goes wrong there's just a knock-on effect.

0:44:270:44:29

So, if someone does something wrong...

0:44:290:44:31

I think we need to get rid of negativity.

0:44:310:44:34

So much negativity it's unreal.

0:44:340:44:36

-Morale's low, isn't it?

-That's the main reason, yeah.

0:44:360:44:38

Not being harsh on you, Mike, but when you come round there,

0:44:380:44:41

everyone is negative when you come round, I think.

0:44:410:44:44

When I come down? You think I'm negative?

0:44:440:44:47

No, not negative. They just seem like they don't want to talk to you.

0:44:470:44:49

"Mike's coming. Shoo him away, like..."

0:44:490:44:52

That's the feeling I get from people down there.

0:44:520:44:55

Mind you, in a way I'm quite happy.

0:44:550:44:57

I don't want people to talk for the sake of talking.

0:44:570:45:00

But equally, I try to pass the time with everybody.

0:45:000:45:03

But, OK. I'll spend a little bit more time on the shop floor.

0:45:030:45:09

-OK, guys, we really do have to go and do some work.

-Right. Let's go.

0:45:090:45:12

The chairs are not very comfortable!

0:45:170:45:19

As the team gets back to work,

0:45:230:45:26

Mike takes a moment to think about the future.

0:45:260:45:29

I'm very keen that we've got three young guys -

0:45:300:45:33

and they are young guys - who are part of the management structure.

0:45:330:45:37

I think they will work well together.

0:45:370:45:40

But we just need them to believe in the job.

0:45:400:45:43

We've got a way to go, but we're getting there.

0:45:430:45:46

We're getting there.

0:45:460:45:48

Mike's thoughts soon turn to his role.

0:45:480:45:51

The industry has changed a lot in the 30 years

0:45:510:45:53

he's been working with wood.

0:45:530:45:55

When we come to IT and internet sales,

0:45:570:46:01

and you don't actually see the customer...it's all...

0:46:010:46:04

There's a lot of whizz kids out there,

0:46:040:46:07

and we need a whizz kid to come in.

0:46:070:46:10

Five years ago I would sit in a meeting and I would have

0:46:100:46:13

an opinion and my opinion,

0:46:130:46:16

I thought, was very valid and very strong.

0:46:160:46:20

Now I sit in meetings and I really don't know

0:46:200:46:23

what they're talking about, they could well be speaking French.

0:46:230:46:26

And I do believe as a company evolves, as a company changes,

0:46:270:46:32

the management has to change with it.

0:46:320:46:35

Good afternoon. Hereford Furniture.

0:46:350:46:37

My baby is this business,

0:46:370:46:40

and the business is growing up and maybe it's time

0:46:400:46:44

the business left home, or maybe Daddy leaves the business.

0:46:440:46:48

We've got to see it grow and flourish.

0:46:480:46:50

In a month's time,

0:47:020:47:04

Digby Jones will visit the furniture factory for the last time,

0:47:040:47:08

but he won't be leaving without tackling their communication issues.

0:47:080:47:12

So, in an effort to bring morale up, the machines are shutting down.

0:47:170:47:22

The lads on the floor are going on an awayday.

0:47:230:47:27

It's a big cost but I hope it's worth it.

0:47:270:47:29

Some will look at it as a waste of time,

0:47:310:47:33

some will look at it as it's better than doing their normal job

0:47:330:47:37

for a couple of hours and some will really buy into it.

0:47:370:47:40

So long as we get 50% buying into it we'll have succeeded.

0:47:400:47:43

And Mike's right.

0:47:450:47:47

Some of the team aren't exactly excited about the prospect,

0:47:470:47:50

paid or not.

0:47:500:47:52

If it weren't for this, I'd be sat in front of my telly.

0:47:520:47:57

To be honest, I've worked 48 years and had nothing like it before.

0:47:570:48:01

I don't know what it's going to do. I honestly don't.

0:48:010:48:03

They're going to Hereford College of Arts,

0:48:090:48:12

where Digby hopes the creative atmosphere

0:48:120:48:16

will help them put aside their doubts and differences.

0:48:160:48:19

Handling the 21 sceptical students

0:48:210:48:23

are senior lecturer Delyth Done and her team.

0:48:230:48:27

What we really wanted to do today is to give you a chance

0:48:270:48:32

to create something which is really about you marking your quality

0:48:320:48:35

and for you guys to work collectively

0:48:350:48:39

so it really feels like your stamp, that marks you being craftsmen.

0:48:390:48:42

So, a stamp to go on the furniture as it leaves the factory.

0:48:430:48:47

A mark of their quality craftsmanship. A symbol of pride.

0:48:470:48:50

What do you what to do? Anyone?

0:48:500:48:55

A point that seems lost on the lads.

0:48:550:48:58

I see it as everyone thinks it's a day off. That's what I think.

0:48:580:49:01

Everyone comes here, let's all have a good chat and everything.

0:49:010:49:04

That's what I see it as.

0:49:040:49:06

We've cut out our logo, mine and James's.

0:49:060:49:09

There it is. It took all of three seconds.

0:49:090:49:12

We make everything out of wood

0:49:150:49:17

so we could have maybe a tree or something.

0:49:170:49:19

An hour later, after a slow start, the designs are finished

0:49:190:49:24

and uploaded onto the computer, ready to be made into stamps.

0:49:240:49:29

When I was at school, it was a green and black computer screen.

0:49:290:49:33

They didn't even have a computer when I was at school.

0:49:330:49:37

As the stamps are 3D printed, the mood is changing.

0:49:370:49:42

Stop the clock! There we go!

0:49:420:49:45

This afternoon's been good, really. Better than I expected.

0:49:450:49:48

Actually couldn't believe we worked together, which usually we don't.

0:49:480:49:54

So, yeah. It's all right.

0:49:540:49:56

Just want to see what the finishing bit looks like now.

0:49:560:49:58

OK, everybody. We've got our prototype stamps.

0:49:580:50:01

And as the final results are being stamped...

0:50:010:50:03

Go, Keith.

0:50:030:50:05

-Woo!

-There we go!

0:50:050:50:08

..the boss arrives.

0:50:080:50:11

CHEERING

0:50:110:50:13

Boo, hiss!

0:50:130:50:15

Who was that?

0:50:150:50:17

-MIKE:

-Did you make these today?

0:50:170:50:19

These were all made, yep.

0:50:190:50:20

-We came up with the designs for each of them.

-Fantastic.

0:50:220:50:25

The detail that you get on them is amazing.

0:50:250:50:28

It's definitely a start. I don't think it's solved every problem,

0:50:280:50:32

because we need a lot more things like this to happen,

0:50:320:50:35

a lot more time to bond, really,

0:50:350:50:37

cos a lot of the areas just don't have the time to do that.

0:50:370:50:41

Also, we need everyone to be in it 100%.

0:50:410:50:43

I think it was quite productive in the end.

0:50:430:50:46

Everybody worked together and, as I say, they opened up,

0:50:470:50:52

and then we got some decent sort of results in towards the end.

0:50:520:50:58

I've got the proof in my pocket of what we've done.

0:50:580:51:02

I just want to point out - that one's mine.

0:51:020:51:05

THEY CHUCKLE

0:51:050:51:06

It's five months since Digby first visited

0:51:170:51:19

the furniture factory in Hereford.

0:51:190:51:21

Today, he's back for the final time.

0:51:240:51:27

Today, I look forward to seeing Lord Digby.

0:51:270:51:29

I hope he'll like what we've done,

0:51:290:51:31

and, yeah, today should be a good day.

0:51:310:51:34

Maybe we should speak after he's gone.

0:51:350:51:37

Digby wants to revisit every area of the factory,

0:51:460:51:49

but first, Kate wants to show him

0:51:490:51:51

what she's achieved with their Danish brand concept.

0:51:510:51:54

What our Hygge website will allow us to do

0:51:550:51:58

is to be more creative in the designs

0:51:580:52:00

and to try new products

0:52:000:52:01

that in the past we would have been reluctant to be daring.

0:52:010:52:05

When the website goes live, it'll be a full online showroom,

0:52:050:52:09

store and social media hub,

0:52:090:52:12

something they've never had before.

0:52:120:52:14

Now they need to secure their trademark.

0:52:140:52:17

So what happens if you don't have Hygge?

0:52:170:52:19

We're currently waiting for the decision from the IPO

0:52:190:52:23

and if the name is not available and we're not allowed to use it,

0:52:230:52:27

we will continue with the website exactly as it is

0:52:270:52:30

and it's just the name that we'll change.

0:52:300:52:32

But the feeling of Hygge and for furniture to have a meaning,

0:52:320:52:36

that is what we will continue.

0:52:360:52:39

-So the dream will become reality?

-Yes.

0:52:390:52:41

I'm a convert, you've got me. Well done.

0:52:410:52:44

A big step forward for the new brand...

0:52:460:52:48

..but what about the product range

0:52:500:52:51

that only five months ago Mike said was slowly killing them?

0:52:510:52:55

Well, his retail customers have been officially notified

0:52:580:53:01

that the range has been reduced.

0:53:010:53:03

The results are obvious on their new mezzanine stock level.

0:53:040:53:08

Here we've got all the stock items that we need.

0:53:080:53:12

What we've really done is alter the way we do the planning.

0:53:120:53:15

So instead of planning each job -

0:53:150:53:17

we do one of this, one of the other,

0:53:170:53:21

we're now saying, "Right, these are the items we sell.

0:53:210:53:24

"We'll make 5, 10, 15 whatever it is."

0:53:240:53:26

So we're really on the change now.

0:53:260:53:28

But can the lads see the change?

0:53:300:53:32

I've not got to cut loads and loads of different things now,

0:53:340:53:37

which is better for me.

0:53:370:53:39

One-off things, I just cut lots more so I can build a stock up,

0:53:390:53:42

gets ahead of it then.

0:53:420:53:43

-And are you seeing that happening now?

-Yes, I am.

0:53:430:53:46

We are starting to get lists where it's all truffle, all off-white.

0:53:460:53:50

In that way, it is working, yeah.

0:53:500:53:52

Have any of you got anything else, an idea or a thought?

0:53:520:53:55

Nothing production-wise has changed at all.

0:53:550:53:59

-Nothing?

-I don't think so, no.

0:53:590:54:00

It's still exactly the same.

0:54:000:54:02

So why did he say just now that it has changed?

0:54:020:54:04

These boys are saying it to be polite,

0:54:040:54:05

that's what they're saying it for.

0:54:050:54:07

Has the list changed, Chris?

0:54:070:54:08

We are getting lists in now where you're doing

0:54:080:54:10

a list of off-white and a list of truffle.

0:54:100:54:13

We never used to do that.

0:54:130:54:14

Mike's doing really good stuff here,

0:54:150:54:17

but if I've got a bloke in the spray shop who doesn't actually believe it,

0:54:170:54:21

then something's going amiss in between.

0:54:210:54:23

It's like having a fabulous engine,

0:54:230:54:25

but nothing's connecting it to the wheels,

0:54:250:54:28

therefore they're not going round.

0:54:280:54:30

I can't see how they can say nothing's happened,

0:54:300:54:32

when everything has changed, everything has moved.

0:54:320:54:35

Ah, cos you're in your helicopter,

0:54:350:54:37

and you're looking at all of this

0:54:370:54:39

and you can see in an instant

0:54:390:54:41

that things have changed.

0:54:410:54:43

You've just walked me through evidence of change.

0:54:430:54:46

You need to reinforce it all the time.

0:54:460:54:48

-If we haven't got them on side...

-They're not offside.

0:54:480:54:51

They're not agin you. They're really not agin you.

0:54:510:54:54

I can see just how successful you've been in other areas

0:54:540:54:57

and I take my hat off to you.

0:54:570:54:59

Well done, Mike. Now your challenge, my son,

0:54:590:55:01

-is to get them to believe in you.

-Absolutely.

0:55:010:55:04

Time for one last conversation,

0:55:070:55:10

and one last chance for Digby to ask one familiar question.

0:55:100:55:14

Where are the financials, Michael?

0:55:140:55:17

And because Digby has seen huge changes,

0:55:170:55:19

he's convinced it's more important than ever

0:55:190:55:22

they produce accurate forecasts.

0:55:220:55:24

If you get this right,

0:55:240:55:26

and I have every confidence you're going to,

0:55:260:55:28

you're going to be branded,

0:55:280:55:30

you're going to be more efficient and productive

0:55:300:55:33

and you're going to start being attractive.

0:55:330:55:35

Nobody is going to walk through this door and say,

0:55:350:55:37

"I'll tell you how attractive you are - can I write you a cheque?"

0:55:370:55:40

When they ask to see the financials of what you're going to do next year,

0:55:400:55:43

"I need to know what I'm going to invest in,"

0:55:430:55:45

and you go, "Well, it's up here."

0:55:450:55:46

Digby, why do I want to sell it? We are a family company.

0:55:460:55:50

Make me an offer I can't refuse, it's yours.

0:55:500:55:52

I couldn't make you an offer you can't refuse,

0:55:520:55:54

cos I don't know what the offer will be,

0:55:540:55:56

cos you're showing me nothing that says I can make the offer.

0:55:560:55:58

-I don't need to show you. I don't work with a bank.

-But, Dad...

0:55:580:56:01

We work with family business.

0:56:010:56:03

It's family money.

0:56:030:56:05

-We have tried...

-You and I should both shut up. Go on.

0:56:050:56:08

-We all keep saying, "Fail to plan, you plan to fail."

-Yes.

0:56:080:56:11

So let's give it a try,

0:56:110:56:14

because we see ourselves being successful, so let's plan.

0:56:140:56:18

The trial we've done for Digby, we missed in month one by over 100k.

0:56:180:56:24

In January, we were following our old model.

0:56:240:56:27

Our new model came into effect as from 1st February,

0:56:270:56:30

so we are now seeing the benefits of that.

0:56:300:56:33

I know we've only just started it, but we are seeing the benefits.

0:56:330:56:37

It's a deficiency in the business that I think,

0:56:370:56:40

and I think your daughter is telling you, you ought to rectify.

0:56:400:56:42

The good thing this business has, on that subject,

0:56:420:56:45

is instinctively, in your gut,

0:56:450:56:48

rarely have I met somebody who understands it so well

0:56:480:56:51

-in the unwritten form.

-You do.

0:56:510:56:53

It's just that the business is a bit vulnerable

0:56:530:56:56

if that bus comes along and takes you into the hereafter.

0:56:560:56:59

You've just got to do it.

0:56:590:57:01

And you, Kate, are the future for this.

0:57:010:57:03

In his darkest moments, just think... Remember Digby sitting here,

0:57:030:57:09

say, "Dad, he said don't stop this."

0:57:090:57:12

And when you feel like saying,

0:57:120:57:13

"Oh, but, Kate, that's all about tomorrow,"

0:57:130:57:15

-we're old men, mate.

-We are.

0:57:150:57:17

-She's the future, not us.

-Absolutely right.

0:57:170:57:19

Though it's the end of our time with Digby

0:57:250:57:26

and the end of this process, it's the start of something new

0:57:260:57:30

and the start of our journey with the changes that we've made.

0:57:300:57:33

Yep.

0:57:350:57:36

'It's small, medium-sized businesses employing one more person

0:57:390:57:43

'that solve unemployment.

0:57:430:57:45

'It's small and medium-sized businesses'

0:57:450:57:47

that grow because they take risk and they change,

0:57:470:57:52

and then they take on another person.

0:57:520:57:54

They make more money, they pay more tax,

0:57:540:57:55

they build more schools and hospitals.

0:57:550:57:57

That is why it's important that small and medium-sized businesses

0:57:590:58:03

in our nation survive and prosper,

0:58:030:58:05

that's why it's important that Hereford Furniture does well.

0:58:050:58:09

These guys pull this off,

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of course, they'll have done right by themselves, by their investment,

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by their courage, by the people who work here,

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but they'll have done right by the city of Hereford

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and they'll have done right by our country.

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And, frankly, you can't ask for more than that.

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Next time, Digby helps a textiles company shape up

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to take on the economic might of Asia.

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It has "What part of this do you not understand" written all over it.

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-It's down to resources and money.

-Don't tell me you can't afford it!

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You got a chequebook in there as well, Digby?

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