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Lord Digby Jones is a champion of British business. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
British manufacturing has got so much to be proud of. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
We make furniture, we make shoes, we make high performance motorcars, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
we make volume motorcars, we sell them around the world. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:18 | |
But it's a constant battle to keep one step ahead of our global rivals. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
Manufacturing at the right product in the right market | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
at the right time, it matters enormously. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
To survive, British firms will have to be at the top of their game. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
You're not trying to say, "I'm the cheapest." | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
You're trying to say, "I'm the best." | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
Now, that is what manufacturing in the UK in the 21st century is about. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
And Digby's determined to play his part. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
In a career that's taken him from his parent's corner shop | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
to the House of Lords, | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
he's helped transform some iconic British companies. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
Now, in a new challenge, can he help three ambitious companies | 0:01:00 | 0:01:05 | |
from the worlds of furniture, fashion and electronics to succeed? | 0:01:05 | 0:01:10 | |
We don't do cheap any more, we can't. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
We actually do quality, brand and innovation. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
That's what's going to make the profit that pays the tax, | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
that builds the schools and hospitals. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
He's demanded access all areas... | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
Wow! This is pretty big. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
..and he's not afraid to ask the tough questions. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
What part of this do you not understand? | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
Ding-dong! Alarm! | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
Tonight... | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
..can Digby help solve a furniture company's urgent problems... | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
This range that we do... | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
..is slowly killing us. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
..secure the future of the business... | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
We're now getting into the realms of making it real. So, exciting. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
..and help them to strike out in a new direction. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
I'd go with it. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
But it won't always be easy and there are difficult decisions ahead. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:08 | |
That's why it's time to call in Digby Jones - | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
The New Troubleshooter. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
Every home needs furniture. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
So someone has to design... | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
..make and sell it. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
And in Great Britain, over 180,000 people do just that. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:41 | |
Including the men and women of this company, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
Hereford Furniture. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
-All right, Dave? -All right, Mike? | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
Mike Muxworthy's the boss. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
We manufacture wooden cabinets. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
Is this going on? | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
We're manufacturing predominantly bedroom furniture. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
We're specialising these days mainly in painted furniture... | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
..which is becoming very, very popular. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
To give his retail customers and their own three West Midland shops | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
plenty of choice, they supplement what they make | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
by importing furniture from China. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
I now have back-ache, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
which is what you expect at my age, unloading this kind of thing. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
Carrying some of Mike's workload is Kate, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
his sales and marketing manager, who's also his youngest daughter. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
-No, you can't have a wage increase. -SHE LAUGHS | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
Over 1,200 furniture manufacturers went bust during the recession, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
and having made a loss of £80,000 for the first time last year, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
they're thinking about their future. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
We've had our fingers burned that many times. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
It's a worry at the minute. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
The question of survival is there, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
so it's always at the back of our minds. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
We have every confidence in the company, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
but we are also aware that things could fail. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
But with the future of over 40 staff on the line, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
failure is not an option for Lord Digby Jones. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
You're giving me loads of reasons why you can't. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
His mission - | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
to turn survival into success and secure the future of the workforce. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
But do they think he's the right man for the job? | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
If there's anybody out there that can give us a hand, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
which I think this Mr Digby can, it'll be more than welcome. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
He might be able to make it better than what it is. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
Anyone could be useful around here, but he definitely could. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
Could show our boss a few things. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
He'd walk around here in five minutes and know what it's about. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
-Basically. -THEY LAUGH | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
This is almost the last stop. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
I'm nearly 60 and I want to go out, when I do finally retire, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:04 | |
leaving a fantastic business that we've built from nothing | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
to something that hopefully will become a household name nationwide. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
It's a big dream, but you've got to aim high. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
Aim for the stars and you get somewhere just below - | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
that's what we've got to keep doing. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
Digby Jones is making an early start. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
He has five months | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
to help turn around the fortune of Hereford Furniture. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
Championing small and medium sized businesses | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
like them is his passion. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
Put together, they employ 14 million people | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
and turn over £1.6 trillion a year. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
Small business in communities are the bedrock of providing profit | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
which delivers the taxation which we all need. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
The days of thinking that every businessman or woman | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
who succeeds is for some reason a fat cat, I hope, are over. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
But to help this business succeed, Digby needs to get under its skin. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:16 | |
He's been doing his homework. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
The business has been doing reasonably well, actually, | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
for a few years, but in the last year or so it's now losing money. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
They've gone off in all directions. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
And they tend to have done things | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
because instinctively it seemed like a good idea. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
I might be wrong, but off the page it looks like that. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
And if I'm wrong, why are they losing money? | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
Big questions for the bosses, but they'll have to wait. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
Digby wants to hit the floor | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
and meet the guys at the heart of the business. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
-We'll go into the mill first. -Right down to the mill. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
Ops manager Tony Lewis is showing him around the factory. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
-This is Gary, this is our sawman, Gary Cooper. -Hello, Gary. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
Don't worry about that. Where there's muck there's brass, lad. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
Don't worry about that at all. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
15,000 pieces of furniture come out of this factory every year. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
I'm a sawyer. My job's a sawyer. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
At the moment I'm cutting T&G for drawer bottoms. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
How long have you been doing this for? | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
-With this firm, nearly seven years. -Have you really? | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
Next, Digby is taken to see the company's jewel in the crown. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:34 | |
-This is our paint shop. -Ah, right. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
White wood comes in built, comes in on the line there, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
and any indentations, any marks we fill. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
The quality of the paint finish | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
adds 25% to the final price-tag of the furniture. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
I love it. I love the sense of achievement you get | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
when you see the final product going out the door to the customer. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
We've got such a good finish on the paint now, | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
and the stain finishes. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
This, to me, summarises all my beliefs. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
I was born into a community of manufacturing, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
a spanner's throw from the Austin motor company and I'm just thrilled | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
to bits that that kid in Birmingham some 50 years ago, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:18 | |
actually, can still today come to places where they make things. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
And I love that. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
If I stop a man with a drill it's always worrying. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
-I'm Digby. You're...? -I'm Tom. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
'Do I think there's something to work on here? Yes, I do.' | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
Will I enjoy doing it? You bet I will. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
If there was one thing this business could do | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
that would make your job more efficient and easy, what would it be? | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
-It would be organisation, I think. -Yeah? In what way? | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
Just...this is the production area and we all work together, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
the spray shop all work together, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
and then the machine shop work together, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
but no-one works as a whole together. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
When you probe and ask the questions, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
they know this could be done more efficiently. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
They know the systems in place are not conducive | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
to productivity enhancement and greater efficiency. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
Digby knows that tackling inefficiency | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
is one thing vital to the company's future. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
To find out what other issues he'll have to deal with, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
it's time to meet the management. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
In the factory showroom, Mike wants Digby to see their flagship range. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
This is the future. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
This is what we paint. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
The customers can have various different heights, widths, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
different colours and they can have it delivered whenever they want it. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
He's seen the product, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
now Digby wants to understand the business structure. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
I look at this company | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
as we've now got three divisions within one company. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
The one we're most proud of is, I guess, our manufacturing process. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
To complement what we manufacture we import products from China. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
We can get nice products made in China and they're beautiful quality. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
Then, a third string to the bow, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
we've started our own retail operation. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
We've got three shops, and between what we manufacture | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
and what we import, we can fill quite large shops | 0:10:07 | 0:10:12 | |
and give the customer, the final customer, a real good choice. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
But you sell through other routes and channels as well? | 0:10:15 | 0:10:20 | |
Our biggest market, still, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
is through independent retailers throughout the UK. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
By manufacturing, importing and retailing, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
they are effectively three businesses in one. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
It's a huge challenge, but can they cope? | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
If I look around here, how many different products have you got? | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
I think we have something in the region of... | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
in terms of all options, colour choices... | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
in the region of 15,000... | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
-What?! -..product options. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
I think that's a bit on the high side, a bit on the high side. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
But we've certainly got too many. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
If it's a bit on the high side, by how many? | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
-I would say we've got 2,000 variations. -Oh? | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
2,000 to 15,000 isn't a bit. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
I think... I think that's completely wrong. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
During the recession what's kept us alive is we've got choice. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
We've got as much to offer anybody. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
You can come in to our shop and you'll find something you like. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
However, this range that we do... | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
..is slowly killing us. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
Brutally honest words from Mike, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
but how seriously is it affecting the company bank balance? | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
-Digby, Jakob Reilly. Reilly. -Hello. -Nice to meet you. -Good to see you. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
Jakob Reilly's family own 75% of the company, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:43 | |
with Mike owning the other 25. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
So with their own financial security at stake, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
it's vital they don't continue to lose money | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
like they have in the last 12 months. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
You're looking at sort of 300... Just under £300,000 less. Why? | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
It's too easy to be an importer, to be honest. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
There is a glut of imported products on the market. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
So, did the market contract or did your share of the market contract? | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
-Our share of the market contracted. -Why? -Too many new players coming in. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:13 | |
And why on your own "made here" has it gone backwards? | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
That's got nothing to do with imported furniture at all. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
Why have the sales of your Made In Hereford product gone down? | 0:12:20 | 0:12:25 | |
OK. The reason we've gone down is the number of accounts | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
-that we've lost that have gone bust. -Selling your manufactured goods. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:32 | |
Looking at this, surely there's an alarm bell ringing somewhere? | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
Of course. None of us, really, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
have been involved in a loss-making business before, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
so we are entering new ground. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
And it's quite scary ground, I have to admit. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
But we are 100% behind Mike. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
We know that the backdrop that he's working against is extremely tough. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:52 | |
It's clear Digby has a lot to think about, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
but he wants Mike and Kate to think about one thing straightaway. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
I want you to just think about how you would answer this question. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
You're trying to make stuff, you're trying to import stuff | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
and then you're trying to retail stuff. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
Now, if you can pull it off, fine, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
but you're going to dissipate your talent, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
dissipate your working capital. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
This business really can't go on doing three things. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
It's got to focus. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
It's perfectly obvious they haven't drilled down | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
into which of those three is making them real money, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
which isn't, which is subsidising what. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
So, they've responded with a bit of inspiration, a bit of flair | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
and they've got themselves to a position | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
where they like where they are in terms of what they do, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
but they don't like the result - which is losing money. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
So, they've got some big questions. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
When somebody really points it out, you do sit back and you think, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
"How have we let this happen?" | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
It's not from a desire to want to make a loss. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
We've got a desire to make a profit, make a good business | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
and make employment here in Hereford for all the people. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
Hopefully, Lord Jones will steer us in the right direction. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
Over the last 20 years, some of the biggest players | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
in the furniture industry have faced financial difficulties. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
But we still spend around £7 billion | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
on British-made furniture every year. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
That's equivalent to just over £100 for every man, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
woman and child in the UK. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
So, how can a medium-sized company like Hereford Furniture | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
compete with the big household names? | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
Digby's going to ask Paul Van Der Heyde, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
who knows what he's talking about. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
He's head of the British Furniture Confederation. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
I'm an ignoramus of the sector, so I have this idea | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
that the market is swamped by flat-packs from Sweden. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
-Would I be right? -I think you're wrong. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
And we can talk about particularly a large Swedish retailer. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
They have, I think, been a very good influence on British furniture. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
They woke up people to the prospect that actually, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
changing your furniture can be a good thing. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
And they haven't won the battle. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
They represent a very small percentage of our UK furniture. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
So, five years on from today, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
do you expect the import side of the sector to be greater than today, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:24 | |
-proportionately, or less? -I hope it will be less. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
I think the cost of bringing furniture in from overseas - | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
be it just the logistics costs or just the timetable - | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
costs of bringing it over get more and more difficult | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
so the opportunity is there for us to grab | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
to make sure we make more of what people want in the UK efficiently. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
So, a chance of survival. But what do people want? | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
As author and editor-at-large of one of the UK's biggest design mags, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
it's Henrietta Thompson's job to know. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
And she's seen a growing trend in Hereford Furniture's target market. | 0:15:55 | 0:16:01 | |
I think what's been interesting in the last few years | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
is that there's been very little in the middle market. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
For that middle class customer. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
I think it's been very, very high-end, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
where you buy your Italian leather sofa for thousands and thousands | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
or it's been...it's been very low cost. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
-Flat-packish. -Flat-packish. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
So, it's quite a good time, at the moment, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
to be in the game of selling people furniture? | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
You think the buying appetite has changed? | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
I really do, actually. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
I think that people are increasingly wanting | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
to express their personalities through their homes. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
I think that people are really more design aware | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
then they've been...well, ever, really. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
And there's more exciting stuff to choose from. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
And do you think that people will pay more for quirky and a bit different? | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
Innovation doesn't have to be quirky. It can be clever. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
It can just be doing something differently, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
it could be a new material. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
And whether people pay more for that? Yes, if it's done well enough. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
So, there is a market ready to spend on the right product | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
but to beat the foreign names, UK manufacturers like Hereford | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
will have to work hard to attract customers. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
But are Mike and the team doing enough? | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
After a final fact-finding tour | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
of their shops in Sutton Coldfield and Kidderminster... | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
We have the Union Jack here as well. Marvellous. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
..Digby's ready to thrash it out with Mike, Kate | 0:17:25 | 0:17:31 | |
and shareholder, Alan Reilly. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
We need a big conversation now. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
I've had a good look at the factory, I've had a good look at the outlets. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
First up, that nagging point for Digby. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
You are a manufacturer, you are a retailer, and you import. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:49 | |
I wonder whether it is possible for you | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
to effectively succeed in all three. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
Tell me why I'm right or why I'm wrong. | 0:17:55 | 0:18:00 | |
I feel we've got something very, very special. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
And my answer is, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
why not? We can do it. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
Why not? Because you haven't persuaded me | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
that the specialist knowledge needed to make a success of retail, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
the specialist knowledge needed | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
to make a success of import and distribution | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
and the specialist knowledge needed to be a manufacturer... | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
I don't think you've persuaded me that you've got sufficient ability | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
within the three of you to make a success of it two or three years out. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
I think as far as... | 0:18:29 | 0:18:30 | |
By the way, you might have specialist knowledge | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
to do one of those things extremely well. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
So, I'm not saying you're not good enough. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
I'm saying, are you good enough to do all three? | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
But Digby has to move on to immediate worries. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
The business wants to be a recognised, household name, | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
but they don't display their brand on their furniture. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
I can't understand for the life of me | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
how a company that wants to promote the brand Hereford | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
is prepared to have its products put somewhere | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
without the name Hereford on it. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
At the moment, with our current supportive network of customers, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
we're not brave enough to brand everything as Hereford Furniture. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:08 | |
Our brand and our pockets are not deep enough | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
to be able to say, "Right, 50% of our business, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
"we're going to say you either brand it or you don't buy it. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
"You're not buying? Fine, OK." | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
So, suddenly, my losses of £80,000 will be a loss of £200,000. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
-Mike... -Digby, what are we doing... | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
..how can you hope to build a brand when, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
by your actions, you value it so little? | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
Right. What we are going to do, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
and this is an announcement that I can make here and now. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
We are introducing Hereford By Design. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
And Hereford By Design products will only be sold to companies | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
that are prepared to sell it as branded product. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:51 | |
When did you think of this? | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
It's been mulling around for a number of months. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
-When did you... -On Monday... -After I visited you! | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
-Yes. -Well, that's all been worth it then, hasn't it! | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
HE LAUGHS Quite right too! | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
See? You're getting value for money already! | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
But the time for laughter is over. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
With four months to make a difference, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
Digby's revolution must begin. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
Managing production and range can have a dramatic effect on profits. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
In the late '90s, consumer goods giant Unilever cut 700 brands | 0:20:25 | 0:20:30 | |
from its portfolio and saved over a billion pounds in the process. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:35 | |
Digby thinks that if Mike did the same, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
he could make huge savings too. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
And as one of Britain's best-connected business leaders, | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
Digby knows just the man to make it happen. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
-Good morning, Stewart. -Good morning. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
He's been friends with Stewart Towe | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
since playing rugby at school together 40 years ago. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
What this is about is, instinctively, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
there's a better way of becoming more productive, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
more efficient in how they make the stuff. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
In 1976, Stewart joined a steel rolling business | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
and 30 years later, he bought it. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
His focus on efficiency helps the company | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
hit clear profit of £7 million a year. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
We can get one man on each shift | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
producing around half a million pounds worth of product every month. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
I think there's a bit of a lack of crackle. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
The workforce, they haven't had pay rises for a couple of years, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
they're under the cosh a bit and I could just do with you | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
smelling it and saying what you think. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
Look forward to seeing the process and taking it forward. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
All the best to you. Take care. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
Mike's modest 36,000 square foot factory | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
produces a huge range of furniture. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
It can't cope. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
This is the biggest single threat to the business. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
We are struggling, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
there's not a lot of orders in and we've got a lot of problems. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
You lose confidence in yourself and your own ability. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
We can't carry on. Our planning system is chaotic. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:25 | |
If we don't change, we will fail. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
So, let's at least plan what we're going to do | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
and give ourselves a chance than carry on in this chaos. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
Stewart sets about his investigation. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
Four hours of walking the floor... | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
..and meeting the workers. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
It's communication between, like, management to supervisors | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
down to us on the thing, like. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
We need to plan a bit better, really. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
If we were just building for stock it would be so much more efficient, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
when you start doing just one bed, two chests, one wardrobe. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:07 | |
Without the money to refit the factory, efficiencies have to come | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
by reducing the range the workforce makes. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
Creating that balance between the number of products that you offer | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
and the efficiency and effectiveness of the factory | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
is perhaps one of your biggest challenges. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
Absolutely. I would say the biggest. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
And if that's the challenge, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
Stewart's there to help Mike find the solution. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
Specifically, what have you in your mind | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
as to the areas you're going to limit? | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
So, is it about drawer configuration? | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
Sizes? Colours? What do you think is the main aspect? | 0:23:40 | 0:23:45 | |
What we've got to do is to cull some of the ranges | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
and be quite hard in culling. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
If we had a maximum of 20 pieces in the range... | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
-As against a current number of approximately how many? -A thousand. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:59 | |
Radically, Mike is considering dropping | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
49 out of every 50 product options. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
I mean, it's very interesting when we talk | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
that we're all singing from the same hymn sheet. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
-Absolutely. -Which is great. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
Now we've just got to have the courage of our convictions | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
-to just get on and do it. -Get on and do it! Absolutely. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
That's going to be the key to the next couple of months. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
And probably for the future of the business. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
All Mike has to do now is tell the lads on the floor. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
Hello, gentlemen. Can we just have five minutes? | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
What we will be doing, probably from the new year, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
is we will cut a lot of the ranges and we will only build for stock. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:53 | |
The big thing for us, I guess, | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
is we've got to try and get the customer to order what we make. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
We're going to get 40% more out. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
So, you'll need a faster screwdriver, Dave. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
-OK. -OK. Thank you, gentlemen. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
That means we get a bigger bonus, Mike, yeah? | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
-Pardon? -Does that mean we get a bigger bonus next year? | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
Well, one thing that would be nice, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
-you know we have this share of profits? -Yeah. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
Well, this year, of course, we've got a share of losses. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
So, I'll be coming round with a little cup saying, | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
-"10% of our losses, please." -I've made no losses! | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
With that gentlemen Mr Digby coming down, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
I think they're starting to listen to him a bit. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
We're just mere mortals, us. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
With somebody with power like that, maybe they'll listen to him. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
If Hereford Furniture wasn't here, where would I get a job? | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
63 years of age, nobody would employ me. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
It's important that he makes the right decisions | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
for everybody that works in the factory. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
So, Mike has committed to a plan | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
which should make them more efficient. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
Digby wants more. Have they crunched their numbers? | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
I just would like you to comfort me | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
that there is some pretty hard analytical financials behind this. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:28 | |
They're talking figures again, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
so Mike has brought co-director Jakob for support. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
When you say the financials, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
if we reduce the number of models we're doing, | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
which means that we can then manufacture for stock, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
-we will get 40% more through the works in one week. -Right. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
From a cash-flow point of view, that's sustainable, is it? | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
-We think so, yeah. -You've run the numbers on that, have you? | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
Haven't done a cash flow forecast, no. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
-Based on what they're going to do? -It's something... | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
We are stepping somewhat into the unknown. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
I understand that, but can you give me a bit of paper, Jakob, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
that actually says THAT is the financial implication? | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
-Not at the moment. -Right, when would you be able to do that by? | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
We don't have enough accounting resource in the company. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
We are very small. We have a book-keeper, she's very, very busy. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
-Mike, we would have to sit down and do it. -We can do it... | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
You're going to have to do it, you know, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
I might be the pain in the bum that has to tell you this | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
but actually, I'm the least important person for why you need this paper. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
-The real people are you. -Yeah. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
Because if you get it right and you get the template, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
you can feed in figures and you can feed in things, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
so you know where you are. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
And good quality, profitable businesses go bust | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
simply because they're not managing their cash. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
Do you know something that struck me early doors today | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
was that they knew they were coming to this meeting | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
and they knew the financial ramifications of this big change. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
They didn't have one figure they could tell me | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
was a material evidence of change | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
that they expected or that was happening. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
It's very strange in a business. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
-I don't understand the need... -Why we would need to budget. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:20 | |
I mean, we do a budget every day, every week. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
I know where the turnover should be, where we need to be. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
-Yeah. -Budgets are always down to guesstimates anyway. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:33 | |
I think he's talking from the perspective | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
that that's the formal way of doing it. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
That's the textbook way to plan | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
when you make a big change, and he's not wrong. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
You never know. You might find that having done it, you think... | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
"Why haven't we done it before?" OK. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
If it's not too onerous, if we can do it and it's easy to do, | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
-then why not continue doing it? We'll see. -OK, OK. Right. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:59 | |
With the range reduction under way, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
Digby wants to sort out their second big issue. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
Mike and the team want to launch a new, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
exclusive brand called Hereford By Design. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
But is it a brand that the UK market actually wants? | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
Digby needs to see proof and if that wasn't hard enough... | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
..they have to prove it to Emma Bridgewater too. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
Starting from her kitchen table in 1985, | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
Emma now has 250 staff and a turnover of £14 million a year. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:56 | |
Her brand is so strong that people around the world | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
are happy to spend up to £20 a mug. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
Digby thinks that's a lesson for all manufacturers, | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
including Mike and Kate who, along with shareholder Louise Powell, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
have prepared a presentation. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:17 | |
We're obviously making some drastic changes to the business. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
Emma's been there, she's done it, she's created a brand. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
And if we can take a little bit of her success away with us, | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
I think we'd be very happy. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
For Digby, getting the rebrand right | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
is about more than just a new name for Hereford Furniture. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
They're going to rationalise the range, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
they're going to narrow it and focus it. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
That's going to work for lots of back office reasons, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
it'll make them more money, enhance productivity, | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
but it'll only work if they get customers buying. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
It'll only work if they can communicate with the customer | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
and say, "This is why it's good for you, Mrs Customer, Mr Customer." | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
That is something you've done really well. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
Whether it's the end user or whether it's a shopkeeper, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
you've got to know a lot about what's motivating them, | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
what's making them tick. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
And finding that out and responding to that is something that... | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
when we started to understand that, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
that was a massive big, big step change in our business. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:25 | |
This is their moment to impress. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
Nationwide, our brand is invisible, it is unknown. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
Consumers have absolutely no awareness of Hereford Furniture. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
We need a vehicle for change to get from where we are | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
to where we want to be - the vehicle that we have is Hereford By Design. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:48 | |
What we're going to do is take our current ranges and upgrade them. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
They will become premium ranges that have additional features. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
-This is very nice and clean and... -But it's not high design. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:03 | |
-Have you got plans to make them stand out? -We have. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:08 | |
We now have soft close drawers that have integrated | 0:32:08 | 0:32:12 | |
to raise the quality and appeal. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
And that's very nice. I know. I take that. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
How are you going to make that something that I don't walk past? | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
Soft closing drawers and smooth paint finishes | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
clearly aren't doing it for Emma. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
But Louise is ready to play their trump card. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
When we were looking at our brand strategy, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
I had a feeling or concept I wanted to put over in everything we do. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:40 | |
My mother's Danish. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
Now, I couldn't find a word in the English language | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
but there is the perfect word in the Danish language. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
The word is hygge. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
It's about social interaction, it's about belonging. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
It's about being at home and wanting to be there. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
It's a warm, glowing, lovely feeling | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
and that's what we would like our brand to encompass, | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
this feeling of hygge. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
You've given us some interesting high aspirations, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
but not hearing a connect about how you're going to make sure | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
the design changes are actually going to have | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
a "buy me" effect on the customer? | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
The tiniest design detail can make all the difference | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
when it comes to brand, as Emma is keen to point out. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
This is all sponge decorating in here. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
What Hannah does is to do the whole pattern | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
-and sign it. -That's my initials on the plate. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
-It's quite a nice thought, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
That they're signed by you. I really love that. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
Saying, "Wow! Hannah's done this." | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
"Hannah's doing lovely work." Exactly right. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
It says this is handmade, unequivocally. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
And each of the people who works on it owns that part of the process. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:59 | |
Tour over, and it's time for feedback. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
Do Emma and Digby think that the Hereford By Design brand | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
is strong enough to go to market? | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
How are you going to give the word Hereford the wow factor? | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
Why is Hereford going to be something where I go...pow! | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
When I say I want more, I want design. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
And by that I don't mean a smooth paint finish. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
Go mad. Where's the red? Where's the dark blue? | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
But how many do you sell? | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
-Well, you don't know and neither do I. -Yeah. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
That's no reason why you shouldn't be offering some dark blue, | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
some dark purple, some orange. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
Extraordinary colours and they might be in tiny numbers, | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
they might only be ones. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:42 | |
Until you do something like that, nobody talks about you on Facebook. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
Because if people are going to start talking about you, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
which is the desired intention, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
the word Hereford - is it the right word? | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
Because one thing you did influence both of us | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
-this morning with was that. -We loved that. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
With a great respect, Hereford doesn't carry, for me, | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
a cache that's going to make me go "wow". | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
That just sounds sensible, doesn't it? | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
It sounds what this is - functional, decent, value for money and boring. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:19 | |
-THEY LAUGH -Thank you! | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
It is really interesting to compare. Which do you like best? | 0:35:24 | 0:35:29 | |
So, why would you want to go on doing this? | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
The Danish brand idea has struck a chord | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
with everyone at the table and the conversation is about to take a turn | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
that could change the face of Hereford Furniture forever. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
So, if we're at a point where we don't have a recognisable brand, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
because we're at a point of zero, | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
do we go straight to this rather than going Hereford By Design? | 0:35:53 | 0:35:58 | |
-How bold do you feel? -And then eventually go for this? | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
Digby, last time we met you said you've got to be brave. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
-I'll go with it. -EMMA GASPS | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
Well, there we go! That's fantastic! | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
Because it gives us a skeleton and it gives us personality. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
-You can't wait to get at it. -Yeah, let's go! | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
It's been decided, they're going to ditch their | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
Hereford By Design brand and want to replace it with Hygge. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:30 | |
The one great thing about this wonderful Danish word | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
that doesn't have a definition in English is that it's going to excite | 0:36:34 | 0:36:39 | |
in people the question, "What's this about? What's this mean?" | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
It therefore demands an answer and you get an excuse to start | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
talking about your product and your brand and your beliefs | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
and you begin to create a feeling more than the product on its own. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:54 | |
And I think that's inspired today and I take my hat off to them. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
-Okey-doke. -All right? -Yeah. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
I know we have obstacles that we need to overcome in production, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
but it's certainly a vehicle by which we can do that. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
We've got to do it, we've just spent the last six weeks | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
rationalising our products and rationalising colours. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
And I think that's a fair enough, from a production point of view | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
but it's when we talk about we're making for stock for three days, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
-and two days a week we can... -We can make specials. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
Exactly. And if those are going to have a higher price point | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
and be real specials and exclusive to our company then yeah, why not? | 0:37:30 | 0:37:36 | |
It doesn't matter if you paint them pink with yellow spots! | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
-Or Emma Bridgewater polka dot! -Or any other kind of spots! Yeah! | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
It's 24 hours since the visit to Emma Bridgewater | 0:37:56 | 0:38:01 | |
and Kate's still buzzing about their new Danish brand name. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:06 | |
It's a concept that we are trying to register | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
which is a little bit difficult when you try and pin it down to words, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
meaning and classifications. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
She has spent the last hour on the phone | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
to the Intellectual Property Office. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
It's quite a straightforward process but you need to register | 0:38:18 | 0:38:23 | |
both the name and format that you'd want it to look like. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
We don't want to limit ourselves | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
in terms of just applying it to furniture, for example, | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
when in the future we could look at using it for our advertising | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
or for home accessories. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
So, we are getting into the realms of making it real. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
So, exciting. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
But Kate's excitement is not shared by her dad in the boardroom. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
What's that? | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
All that is is the month's P&R, which we know is out because... | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
Digby wants Mike and Jakob to prepare a cash flow forecast | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
to support their range reduction. | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
The point seems to be lost on Mike. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
The end goal of this exercise is to make Digby happy. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
Could there be any other benefits too? | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
I don't think so because I know what I'm expecting. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
We know the business extremely well | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
and you know what the break even figure is, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
so it's quite simple that if you can sell more | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
without increasing your overhead, you'll be better off. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
If you sell less and you don't reach your overhead, you will lose money. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:37 | |
So, we've spent probably five hours doing a projection and forecasts | 0:39:38 | 0:39:43 | |
and it hasn't really proven anything, it's only a guesstimate. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
If we sell X amount we will make a profit. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
If we don't, we won't. End of. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
A week later, and Digby has received Mike and Jakob's figures. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:05 | |
But they haven't given him enough detail. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
When I first came to see you that morning - | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
what seems like an eternity ago, but was only a few weeks - | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
but when I came to see you and I looked through the figures | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
and I then look through these tonight, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
I'm not seeing that much difference actually. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
Well, you're seeing a reduction in stock, actually, of £200,000. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
I am. That's true. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
If I'm being polite, I'd say it needs a bit more work. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
If I'm being harsher, I'd say take it away and think again. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
When are you able to come and show us how to do it? | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
Sure, that's the next step, isn't it, really... | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
A frustrating conversation for Digby, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
but now his thoughts turn to the company's new Danish branding idea. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
The brand can be British, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
although it comes from a different country in its stem, if you like. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
There's nothing wrong with that. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
You can't get much more British than Norwich Union, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
and yet Aviva is a Spanish name. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
So, there's nothing wrong with taking | 0:41:05 | 0:41:10 | |
a Scandinavian name and going out to market "from Britain", | 0:41:10 | 0:41:16 | |
proud of its British heritage. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
Nothing wrong with that at all. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
It's how you do it and what you do it and whether you get them | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
to buy into it and whether you get them to go forward. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
I think Kate gets it. She's there. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
But the guy who's built the business up, | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
he's having a bit more problem getting there. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
He knows he should. He's not lying to me or to himself. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
He knows he should. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
It just takes a little bit longer to get the water wings off | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
and leave the side of the pool. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
There's only two months before Digby's consultation ends, | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
and with major changes happening, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
he wants to know how it's going down with the men on the floor. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:07 | |
Could we get all the guys in the mill together | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
and bring them here for two minutes so I can have a chat with them? | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
Mike has moved key staff around | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
to try and improve communication and productivity. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
But has it worked? | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
I mean, you are aware that we've hopefully got a change going on | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
in the way...what you make for. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
You make for stock and it's all changed. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
Am I getting a nod? | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
It's changed since Dave's gone over there. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
It's easier to talk to Dave now, | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
cos he's taken charge over there and it's easier for us to talk to him. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:43 | |
-What do you think, Dave? -I think it's gradually going to get better, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
me being from the spray shop anyway. I know what it's like. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
I think the trouble is when an area gets behind, | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
they seem to blame another area. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
That's where the bitchiness comes from. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
So that we are against each other, sort of thing. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
I think if there's any problems, I think people think | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
you're having a go at them and they're taking it personally. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
When it's not actually personal. It's not like that. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:12 | |
This is a real eye opener for Digby. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
If Mike's going to push through with changes, he needs his staff on side. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 | |
At this late stage, Digby can't let communication issues ruin his plans. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:24 | |
It is clear to me that there is a changed air down there. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
One or two of them said to me, "I can see there are changes coming in. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:34 | |
"We're making more for stock and stuff." Do not be complacent. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
It's going in the right direction but you've got a long way to go | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
on the communication issue. They've all said that. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
Shouldn't be seen by you as a criticism you should run away from, | 0:43:45 | 0:43:50 | |
you should actually think, "Actually, I'm quite pleased about this | 0:43:50 | 0:43:54 | |
"and I'm heartened and I'm going to do more." | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
With Digby's words ringing in his ears, | 0:43:59 | 0:44:01 | |
Mike sits down with the senior team for an honest chat. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
We have got to work together. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:07 | |
It's not loads of things, it's not all the time. It's the odd thing. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
I don't think it is, but we need to get it right. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
I'm thrilled at the way we've got the leaders of the teams | 0:44:13 | 0:44:17 | |
to understand the issue and to have the courage to turn up | 0:44:17 | 0:44:21 | |
and say, "Hey, I want a bit more of the old up-down communication." | 0:44:21 | 0:44:25 | |
I'm very pleased about that. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:27 | |
If something goes wrong there's just a knock-on effect. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
So, if someone does something wrong... | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
I think we need to get rid of negativity. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
So much negativity it's unreal. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
-Morale's low, isn't it? -That's the main reason, yeah. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
Not being harsh on you, Mike, but when you come round there, | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
everyone is negative when you come round, I think. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
When I come down? You think I'm negative? | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
No, not negative. They just seem like they don't want to talk to you. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
"Mike's coming. Shoo him away, like..." | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
That's the feeling I get from people down there. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
Mind you, in a way I'm quite happy. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
I don't want people to talk for the sake of talking. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
But equally, I try to pass the time with everybody. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
But, OK. I'll spend a little bit more time on the shop floor. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:09 | |
-OK, guys, we really do have to go and do some work. -Right. Let's go. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
The chairs are not very comfortable! | 0:45:17 | 0:45:19 | |
As the team gets back to work, | 0:45:23 | 0:45:26 | |
Mike takes a moment to think about the future. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
I'm very keen that we've got three young guys - | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
and they are young guys - who are part of the management structure. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:37 | |
I think they will work well together. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
But we just need them to believe in the job. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:43 | |
We've got a way to go, but we're getting there. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:46 | |
We're getting there. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:48 | |
Mike's thoughts soon turn to his role. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
The industry has changed a lot in the 30 years | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
he's been working with wood. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:55 | |
When we come to IT and internet sales, | 0:45:57 | 0:46:01 | |
and you don't actually see the customer...it's all... | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
There's a lot of whizz kids out there, | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
and we need a whizz kid to come in. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
Five years ago I would sit in a meeting and I would have | 0:46:10 | 0:46:13 | |
an opinion and my opinion, | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
I thought, was very valid and very strong. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:20 | |
Now I sit in meetings and I really don't know | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
what they're talking about, they could well be speaking French. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
And I do believe as a company evolves, as a company changes, | 0:46:27 | 0:46:32 | |
the management has to change with it. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:35 | |
Good afternoon. Hereford Furniture. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:37 | |
My baby is this business, | 0:46:37 | 0:46:40 | |
and the business is growing up and maybe it's time | 0:46:40 | 0:46:44 | |
the business left home, or maybe Daddy leaves the business. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:48 | |
We've got to see it grow and flourish. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
In a month's time, | 0:47:02 | 0:47:04 | |
Digby Jones will visit the furniture factory for the last time, | 0:47:04 | 0:47:08 | |
but he won't be leaving without tackling their communication issues. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
So, in an effort to bring morale up, the machines are shutting down. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:22 | |
The lads on the floor are going on an awayday. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:27 | |
It's a big cost but I hope it's worth it. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:29 | |
Some will look at it as a waste of time, | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
some will look at it as it's better than doing their normal job | 0:47:33 | 0:47:37 | |
for a couple of hours and some will really buy into it. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
So long as we get 50% buying into it we'll have succeeded. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
And Mike's right. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
Some of the team aren't exactly excited about the prospect, | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
paid or not. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
If it weren't for this, I'd be sat in front of my telly. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:57 | |
To be honest, I've worked 48 years and had nothing like it before. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
I don't know what it's going to do. I honestly don't. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
They're going to Hereford College of Arts, | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
where Digby hopes the creative atmosphere | 0:48:12 | 0:48:16 | |
will help them put aside their doubts and differences. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
Handling the 21 sceptical students | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
are senior lecturer Delyth Done and her team. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:27 | |
What we really wanted to do today is to give you a chance | 0:48:27 | 0:48:32 | |
to create something which is really about you marking your quality | 0:48:32 | 0:48:35 | |
and for you guys to work collectively | 0:48:35 | 0:48:39 | |
so it really feels like your stamp, that marks you being craftsmen. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
So, a stamp to go on the furniture as it leaves the factory. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:47 | |
A mark of their quality craftsmanship. A symbol of pride. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
What do you what to do? Anyone? | 0:48:50 | 0:48:55 | |
A point that seems lost on the lads. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:58 | |
I see it as everyone thinks it's a day off. That's what I think. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:01 | |
Everyone comes here, let's all have a good chat and everything. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:04 | |
That's what I see it as. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:06 | |
We've cut out our logo, mine and James's. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:09 | |
There it is. It took all of three seconds. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
We make everything out of wood | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
so we could have maybe a tree or something. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:19 | |
An hour later, after a slow start, the designs are finished | 0:49:19 | 0:49:24 | |
and uploaded onto the computer, ready to be made into stamps. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:29 | |
When I was at school, it was a green and black computer screen. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:33 | |
They didn't even have a computer when I was at school. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:37 | |
As the stamps are 3D printed, the mood is changing. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:42 | |
Stop the clock! There we go! | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
This afternoon's been good, really. Better than I expected. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:48 | |
Actually couldn't believe we worked together, which usually we don't. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:54 | |
So, yeah. It's all right. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:56 | |
Just want to see what the finishing bit looks like now. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
OK, everybody. We've got our prototype stamps. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
And as the final results are being stamped... | 0:50:01 | 0:50:03 | |
Go, Keith. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:05 | |
-Woo! -There we go! | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
..the boss arrives. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:11 | |
CHEERING | 0:50:11 | 0:50:13 | |
Boo, hiss! | 0:50:13 | 0:50:15 | |
Who was that? | 0:50:15 | 0:50:17 | |
-MIKE: -Did you make these today? | 0:50:17 | 0:50:19 | |
These were all made, yep. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:20 | |
-We came up with the designs for each of them. -Fantastic. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
The detail that you get on them is amazing. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:28 | |
It's definitely a start. I don't think it's solved every problem, | 0:50:28 | 0:50:32 | |
because we need a lot more things like this to happen, | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
a lot more time to bond, really, | 0:50:35 | 0:50:37 | |
cos a lot of the areas just don't have the time to do that. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
Also, we need everyone to be in it 100%. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
I think it was quite productive in the end. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
Everybody worked together and, as I say, they opened up, | 0:50:47 | 0:50:52 | |
and then we got some decent sort of results in towards the end. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:58 | |
I've got the proof in my pocket of what we've done. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
I just want to point out - that one's mine. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:51:05 | 0:51:06 | |
It's five months since Digby first visited | 0:51:17 | 0:51:19 | |
the furniture factory in Hereford. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:21 | |
Today, he's back for the final time. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
Today, I look forward to seeing Lord Digby. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:29 | |
I hope he'll like what we've done, | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
and, yeah, today should be a good day. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
Maybe we should speak after he's gone. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:37 | |
Digby wants to revisit every area of the factory, | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
but first, Kate wants to show him | 0:51:49 | 0:51:51 | |
what she's achieved with their Danish brand concept. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
What our Hygge website will allow us to do | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
is to be more creative in the designs | 0:51:58 | 0:52:00 | |
and to try new products | 0:52:00 | 0:52:01 | |
that in the past we would have been reluctant to be daring. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:05 | |
When the website goes live, it'll be a full online showroom, | 0:52:05 | 0:52:09 | |
store and social media hub, | 0:52:09 | 0:52:12 | |
something they've never had before. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:14 | |
Now they need to secure their trademark. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:17 | |
So what happens if you don't have Hygge? | 0:52:17 | 0:52:19 | |
We're currently waiting for the decision from the IPO | 0:52:19 | 0:52:23 | |
and if the name is not available and we're not allowed to use it, | 0:52:23 | 0:52:27 | |
we will continue with the website exactly as it is | 0:52:27 | 0:52:30 | |
and it's just the name that we'll change. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:32 | |
But the feeling of Hygge and for furniture to have a meaning, | 0:52:32 | 0:52:36 | |
that is what we will continue. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
-So the dream will become reality? -Yes. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
I'm a convert, you've got me. Well done. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
A big step forward for the new brand... | 0:52:46 | 0:52:48 | |
..but what about the product range | 0:52:50 | 0:52:51 | |
that only five months ago Mike said was slowly killing them? | 0:52:51 | 0:52:55 | |
Well, his retail customers have been officially notified | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
that the range has been reduced. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:03 | |
The results are obvious on their new mezzanine stock level. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:08 | |
Here we've got all the stock items that we need. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:12 | |
What we've really done is alter the way we do the planning. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
So instead of planning each job - | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
we do one of this, one of the other, | 0:53:17 | 0:53:21 | |
we're now saying, "Right, these are the items we sell. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
"We'll make 5, 10, 15 whatever it is." | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
So we're really on the change now. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
But can the lads see the change? | 0:53:30 | 0:53:32 | |
I've not got to cut loads and loads of different things now, | 0:53:34 | 0:53:37 | |
which is better for me. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:39 | |
One-off things, I just cut lots more so I can build a stock up, | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
gets ahead of it then. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:43 | |
-And are you seeing that happening now? -Yes, I am. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
We are starting to get lists where it's all truffle, all off-white. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:50 | |
In that way, it is working, yeah. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:52 | |
Have any of you got anything else, an idea or a thought? | 0:53:52 | 0:53:55 | |
Nothing production-wise has changed at all. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:59 | |
-Nothing? -I don't think so, no. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:00 | |
It's still exactly the same. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
So why did he say just now that it has changed? | 0:54:02 | 0:54:04 | |
These boys are saying it to be polite, | 0:54:04 | 0:54:05 | |
that's what they're saying it for. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:07 | |
Has the list changed, Chris? | 0:54:07 | 0:54:08 | |
We are getting lists in now where you're doing | 0:54:08 | 0:54:10 | |
a list of off-white and a list of truffle. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:13 | |
We never used to do that. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:14 | |
Mike's doing really good stuff here, | 0:54:15 | 0:54:17 | |
but if I've got a bloke in the spray shop who doesn't actually believe it, | 0:54:17 | 0:54:21 | |
then something's going amiss in between. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:23 | |
It's like having a fabulous engine, | 0:54:23 | 0:54:25 | |
but nothing's connecting it to the wheels, | 0:54:25 | 0:54:28 | |
therefore they're not going round. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
I can't see how they can say nothing's happened, | 0:54:30 | 0:54:32 | |
when everything has changed, everything has moved. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
Ah, cos you're in your helicopter, | 0:54:35 | 0:54:37 | |
and you're looking at all of this | 0:54:37 | 0:54:39 | |
and you can see in an instant | 0:54:39 | 0:54:41 | |
that things have changed. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
You've just walked me through evidence of change. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
You need to reinforce it all the time. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:48 | |
-If we haven't got them on side... -They're not offside. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:51 | |
They're not agin you. They're really not agin you. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
I can see just how successful you've been in other areas | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
and I take my hat off to you. | 0:54:57 | 0:54:59 | |
Well done, Mike. Now your challenge, my son, | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
-is to get them to believe in you. -Absolutely. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
Time for one last conversation, | 0:55:07 | 0:55:10 | |
and one last chance for Digby to ask one familiar question. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:14 | |
Where are the financials, Michael? | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
And because Digby has seen huge changes, | 0:55:17 | 0:55:19 | |
he's convinced it's more important than ever | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
they produce accurate forecasts. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:24 | |
If you get this right, | 0:55:24 | 0:55:26 | |
and I have every confidence you're going to, | 0:55:26 | 0:55:28 | |
you're going to be branded, | 0:55:28 | 0:55:30 | |
you're going to be more efficient and productive | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
and you're going to start being attractive. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
Nobody is going to walk through this door and say, | 0:55:35 | 0:55:37 | |
"I'll tell you how attractive you are - can I write you a cheque?" | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
When they ask to see the financials of what you're going to do next year, | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
"I need to know what I'm going to invest in," | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
and you go, "Well, it's up here." | 0:55:45 | 0:55:46 | |
Digby, why do I want to sell it? We are a family company. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:50 | |
Make me an offer I can't refuse, it's yours. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:52 | |
I couldn't make you an offer you can't refuse, | 0:55:52 | 0:55:54 | |
cos I don't know what the offer will be, | 0:55:54 | 0:55:56 | |
cos you're showing me nothing that says I can make the offer. | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
-I don't need to show you. I don't work with a bank. -But, Dad... | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
We work with family business. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
It's family money. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:05 | |
-We have tried... -You and I should both shut up. Go on. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
-We all keep saying, "Fail to plan, you plan to fail." -Yes. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
So let's give it a try, | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
because we see ourselves being successful, so let's plan. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:18 | |
The trial we've done for Digby, we missed in month one by over 100k. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:24 | |
In January, we were following our old model. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
Our new model came into effect as from 1st February, | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
so we are now seeing the benefits of that. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
I know we've only just started it, but we are seeing the benefits. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:37 | |
It's a deficiency in the business that I think, | 0:56:37 | 0:56:40 | |
and I think your daughter is telling you, you ought to rectify. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:42 | |
The good thing this business has, on that subject, | 0:56:42 | 0:56:45 | |
is instinctively, in your gut, | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
rarely have I met somebody who understands it so well | 0:56:48 | 0:56:51 | |
-in the unwritten form. -You do. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:53 | |
It's just that the business is a bit vulnerable | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
if that bus comes along and takes you into the hereafter. | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
You've just got to do it. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
And you, Kate, are the future for this. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 | |
In his darkest moments, just think... Remember Digby sitting here, | 0:57:03 | 0:57:09 | |
say, "Dad, he said don't stop this." | 0:57:09 | 0:57:12 | |
And when you feel like saying, | 0:57:12 | 0:57:13 | |
"Oh, but, Kate, that's all about tomorrow," | 0:57:13 | 0:57:15 | |
-we're old men, mate. -We are. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:17 | |
-She's the future, not us. -Absolutely right. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:19 | |
Though it's the end of our time with Digby | 0:57:25 | 0:57:26 | |
and the end of this process, it's the start of something new | 0:57:26 | 0:57:30 | |
and the start of our journey with the changes that we've made. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:33 | |
Yep. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:36 | |
'It's small, medium-sized businesses employing one more person | 0:57:39 | 0:57:43 | |
'that solve unemployment. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:45 | |
'It's small and medium-sized businesses' | 0:57:45 | 0:57:47 | |
that grow because they take risk and they change, | 0:57:47 | 0:57:52 | |
and then they take on another person. | 0:57:52 | 0:57:54 | |
They make more money, they pay more tax, | 0:57:54 | 0:57:55 | |
they build more schools and hospitals. | 0:57:55 | 0:57:57 | |
That is why it's important that small and medium-sized businesses | 0:57:59 | 0:58:03 | |
in our nation survive and prosper, | 0:58:03 | 0:58:05 | |
that's why it's important that Hereford Furniture does well. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:09 | |
These guys pull this off, | 0:58:10 | 0:58:11 | |
of course, they'll have done right by themselves, by their investment, | 0:58:11 | 0:58:15 | |
by their courage, by the people who work here, | 0:58:15 | 0:58:18 | |
but they'll have done right by the city of Hereford | 0:58:18 | 0:58:21 | |
and they'll have done right by our country. | 0:58:21 | 0:58:23 | |
And, frankly, you can't ask for more than that. | 0:58:23 | 0:58:25 | |
Next time, Digby helps a textiles company shape up | 0:58:31 | 0:58:35 | |
to take on the economic might of Asia. | 0:58:35 | 0:58:38 | |
It has "What part of this do you not understand" written all over it. | 0:58:41 | 0:58:44 | |
-It's down to resources and money. -Don't tell me you can't afford it! | 0:58:44 | 0:58:48 | |
You got a chequebook in there as well, Digby? | 0:58:48 | 0:58:50 |