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Lord Digby Jones is a champion of British business.

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British manufacturing's got so much to be proud of.

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We make furniture, we make shoes,

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we make high-performance motor cars,

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we make volume motor cars, we sell them around the world.

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But it's a constant battle to keep one step ahead of our global rivals.

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Manufacturing the right product in the right market

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at the right time, it matters enormously.

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To survive, British firms will have to be at the top of their game.

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You're not trying to say, "I'm the cheapest,"

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you're trying to say, "I'm the best."

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Now, that is what manufacturing in the UK in the 21st century's about.

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And Digby's determined to play his part.

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In a career that's taken him from his parents' corner shop

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to the House of Lords,

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he's helped transform some iconic British companies.

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Now, in a new challenge, can he help three ambitious companies

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from the worlds of furniture, fashion,

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and electronics to succeed?

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We don't do cheap any more. We can't.

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We actually do quality, brand, and innovation.

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That's what's going to make the profit that pays the tax,

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that builds the schools and hospitals.

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He's demanded access all areas.

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-Wow. This is pretty big.

-Yes!

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He's not afraid to ask the tough questions.

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What part of this do you not understand?

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Ding-dong! Alarm!

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Tonight...

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..can Digby help a Scottish textiles mill take on the world?

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I'm here to see if our collection is of any interest

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to the Chinese market.

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But are they willing to follow his advice

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and strike out into the unknown?

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Digby's come in as a consultant.

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In some respects, it's easy to be a consultant.

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You can offer up advice, but you can then walk away

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and there's no recriminations.

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Digby's convinced he's right...

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..and the rewards could be huge.

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It's going to involve risk.

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And, at some point, you're going to have to start walking down that plank

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and you're going to have to jump.

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It won't always be easy, and there are difficult decisions ahead.

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That's why it's time to call in Digby Jones: The New Troubleshooter.

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Hawick in the Scottish Borders.

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They've been making quality knitwear here since the late 1700s.

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Today, one of the town's few remaining woollen mills

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is Hawick Knitwear.

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Many of the employees are long-serving...

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Well, I've done this job for about 20 years,

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and I still think I'm learning the job.

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..and highly-skilled.

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It takes quite a lot of time to actually get used to

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putting the material on to the machines.

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It can be tiring, like, by the end of the shift,

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but when you see the finished garments, you take a lot of pride.

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The company has private shareholders...

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-What time do you finish tonight?

-Six.

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..including its boss, who was born and raised in Hawick.

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The decisions he makes effect the lives of hundreds of local people.

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It's imperative for the community

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that businesses like this indeed prosper, and grow,

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and attract young school-leavers back into the business.

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For now, the business is doing well.

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But fashions change, so new orders,

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and its future, are never guaranteed.

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This business is consumer-driven.

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When people don't want to buy a product that's been properly made,

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with provenance, in the UK,

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and in Scotland in particular, then we're out of business.

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Lord Digby Jones believes that British manufacturers

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must fight to establish their place in a global market

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dominated by cheaper Asian competition.

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The UK textile industry is on the front line of that battle.

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Today, the industry faces enormous challenges.

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Let's think about a strategic plan for five years out.

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Let's think about the tactics to get you there,

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and then have you got the resources

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and have you got the skill to get there?

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These are challenges which face businesses in Britain every day.

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There's a bit of apprehension. We're a major employer in the area.

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I mean, with 235 people, it's feeding a lot of families.

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I think the worst thing he could say is that we're wasting our time

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and we should close up shop and source from offshore,

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like so many other brands are doing.

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But Digby is backing Made In Britain.

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Over the coming months, he intends to spend time

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in every part of the business,

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trying to equip Hawick Knitwear with the tools to survive

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and prosper in the ruthless world of the international textiles trade.

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I am to knowledge of textiles and woolly jumpers

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what Attila the Hun was to architecture, actually.

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I mean, I'm not exactly a world fashion guru.

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If you look at my portly frame, you'll probably understand why.

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But, in terms of the manufacturing process,

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and in terms of them being at the value-added, branded end

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of the manufacturing chain, on those issues, I'm on very firm ground.

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Digby doesn't want to sit down with the bosses just yet.

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First, he wants to get to know the business from the factory floor,

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in the company of manufacturing director Ian McLeod.

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-When you come in here, that, to me, that's manufacturing.

-I know.

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You're taking ordinary raw material and, by the end of it,

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you've got something that's a sweater. And I...I love it.

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I just love...making things. I love it.

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Come on. Now where are we off to?

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Digby's visited hundreds of factories over the years.

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He's learnt that every manufacturer

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is only as good as the men and women on their production line.

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-Hello.

-This is Digby Jones.

-I'm Digby, good to see you.

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-Robbie's a frameworker working with us.

-You're Robbie?

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You've been here a while? How many years you been...?

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-1965, I started.

-1965? So, you've been here man and boy?

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-Near enough, like.

-And are you a Hawick lad?

-Yeah.

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-You've seen a few changes in Hawick?

-A lot of changes.

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In the mid-1960s,

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when Hawick's woollen industry was at its height,

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it employed 5,500 people,

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a third of the town's population.

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Today, that number has shrunk to just 1,200.

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This is where the panels are joined together.

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It's a really skilled operation,

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-and it takes about a year to train somebody on this.

-Right.

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Years ago, the operators were called greasy linkers,

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but obviously, as times change, the girls didn't like

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being referred to as greasy linkers,

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so they're now called first make-up operators.

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Many of the roles in the factory demand finger-tip precision,

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techniques that are passed down through the generations.

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Malcolm Macdonald learnt his trade from his father.

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He's a milling man, one of the few remaining in Hawick.

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His skills are integral to the prized feel of the town's knitwear.

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-What does it look like?

-When I take it out,

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I have to judge how soft that garment is going to be.

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I want to see the nice hair on the top, that's what we call the mill.

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Its always tempting to put more and more mill on

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-to make them even softer and softer.

-So if there was no mill,

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you wouldn't have enough, and if there was too much...

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-It'd be ruined.

-..it'd be ruined, yeah.

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Digby passionately believes that training is crucial

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to maintaining a healthy business.

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And are you going to teach someone else?

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I would hope to teach somebody else.

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It's a job where you need a lot of experience.

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You have to realise, if you were the boss of a factory,

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you're trusting me to wash thousands of pounds' worth of garments.

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-And you've got to feel it and sense it?

-You can't learn this job through mistakes.

-No.

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But, with the tour almost at an end,

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there's still a surprise in store...

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Not everything the company produces bears its name.

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This is for Famous Grouse.

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Anywhere, does it say you made it?

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-It says "Made in Scotland."

-It says "Made in Scotland," yeah,

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-but it wouldn't identify you.

-No, it doesn't.

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This particular product doesn't identify us.

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Of the 300,000 sweaters made here annually,

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three quarters are for other brands.

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Hawick Knitwear relies heavily on this so-called private label work.

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It's their bread and butter.

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We do make for our own brand.

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-Here's one.

-These are actually 100% British wool.

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-You're making this, you're selling on your brand...

-Yes.

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..and, at the same time,

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good profit to be made, good sales to be had

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by making quality stuff for another brand,

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-which, to me, that's whisky.

-Yeah.

-Big predicament, actually.

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Digby knows developing the Hawick Knitwear own brand

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is key to the company's long-term survival.

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I hope you're going to say that one of your ambitions

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is to grow the own brand stuff rather than private label stuff,

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-would that be right?

-Definitely.

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We kind of started from scratch three years ago,

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we didn't really have a Hawick Knitwear brand, as such.

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When we were 100% private label,

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you're at the beck and call of the buyers that you're dealing with,

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and if the buyer changes, or the strategy changes,

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-you've lost your customer.

-No control of your destiny.

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You can do everything right, but you still lose the business.

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If the company is to compete against the commercial might of Asia

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and safeguard the future of its 235-strong workforce,

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then action is needed.

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Maximising the brand in a globally competitive marketplace,

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they need to take a few big decisions, I think.

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A lot of it will come down to the shareholders, actually,

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whether they're prepared to put a bit of money into it.

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Can I see some areas where I think I could give them

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some advice? Definitely.

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Do I think they're going to take it?

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I-I think it'll be a bit of a battle to get them to...go forward

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more quickly than they're comfortable with.

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So, growing its own brand Hawick Knitwear

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is the key to a brighter future.

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Having seen how its sweaters are made,

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Digby now wants to find out how they're sold.

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The task of getting own brand product into the UK's shops

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rests with its two sales managers.

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Anything in particular that has been selling?

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-The men's cashmere jumpers.

-Right. Rather than ladies'?

-Yes.

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Derek McCulloch's patch covers Northern England and Scotland.

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You've been a big help.

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Today, he's visiting retail customers in Edinburgh.

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When I took over the area, there were roughly about 20 accounts.

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We're now sitting at well over 110 accounts for Scotland

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and the north of England area that I actually do.

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So the growth we've had has absolutely been fantastic,

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and the turnover has probably gone up 20 times.

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The company's most profitable outlet is this store,

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a stone's throw from the castle.

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Benny and Arthur have ambitions to double sales

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of the Hawick Knitwear brand in the next three years.

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Digby wants to find out if that's at all realistic.

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What's your footfall every day?

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-Couple of hundred.

-So, 200 would walk in,

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-how many of those would make a purchase?

-Hopefully at least 100.

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And 40% of those are from outside Europe.

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By far the largest proportion of its non-European customers

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are from China.

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Hello, I'm Digby. You're...?

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So much so that this shop has hired Chinese-speaking sales assistants.

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Do you speak Mandarin to a customer once a day, once a week?

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-30 or 40 people a day like that.

-A day? Would be speaking Mandarin?

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Yeah, yeah.

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The scale of Chinese enthusiasm for the Hawick Knitwear brand

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has come as a surprise, even to Digby.

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Would Chinese be the biggest overseas customer?

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Yes. Well, I think so.

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If we are having a travel group from China,

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they will roughly buy £1,000 or something,

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-so that's a big market and big sales.

-Yeah, yeah.

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The shop visit has convinced Digby

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that a strategy for building the brand

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is staring Benny and Arthur in the face.

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Big, big Chinese presence in the customer base,

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so when a Chinese tourist takes something from there,

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takes it home, and thinks, "I'll have another one of those,"

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they won't come back to Edinburgh to get it. So how are they going to get it?

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I hope, eventually, they're going to walk into a Hawick store

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in Shanghai. Now, wouldn't that be fabulous?

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So, export, export, export!

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With an emerging middle class of 300 million,

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Digby believes China is a market

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that ambitious companies can't ignore.

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It's time to deliver that message to Benny and Arthur.

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The emerging markets make so much sense for Britain to export

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value-added branded quality, innovative, goods.

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Where would you grow your market best?

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Where there's a ready and willing desire to buy your product,

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-and that's China.

-Yeah.

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They are your purchaser. They are your customer base.

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It has "What part of this do you not understand?" written all over it.

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-Well, it's down to resources and money.

-Sure.

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No, of course, I see that.

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We need to target what resources we have

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in the most cost-effective way possible in the short-term,

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until we can get the business a bit more on a solid footing.

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You could invest in China for ten years and get nothing back.

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We've chosen, rightly or wrongly, to focus on the low-hanging fruit

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and try and pick up some success in Northern Europe

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and the UK, initially.

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Company boss Benny favours a cautious approach to expansion.

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Digby wants to know if brand manager Arthur feels the same way.

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What do you think about that? Is he right?

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No, I think the emerging middle classes

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are looking for something with provenance and a bit of quality,

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so I think it's time for us to have a look at China again.

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But at the moment you're not trying?

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Partly, I guess, it's my background as an accountant.

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It's about weighing up the risks and the rewards.

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The old cliche, if you get a salesman to run the business,

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you end up actually with no business.

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And if you get an accountant to run the business,

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you end up with a pile of cash, and no business.

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Well, I like to think it's somewhere in between!

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But, I would have suggested that, five years out,

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looking back on this business,

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Hawick Knitwear should be an identifiable brand

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in the department stores of Beijing and Shanghai.

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And export isn't the only area in which Digby's visit to the shop

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has had an impact.

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One thing I did think, looking at your shop this morning,

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I thought it looked good. From outside, it basically said,

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"This is going to do what it says on the tin."

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I think it's nice, clear, concise signage. It's prominent.

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I mean, it was just right. So why doesn't your factory look like that?

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HE LAUGHS

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It did not exactly overwhelm me with a sense of civic pride.

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With the greatest respect, our factory is what it is,

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-it's a 1930s building...

-But you could tart it up a bit!

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It would've been nice, for instance, you know, "Hawick Knitwear," say,

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-"the home of..." something, or, "Welcome to..."

-Yeah.

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What I think your problem is, you're not putting your party frock and going off to the dance enough.

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Yeah, we need to get the name out there, I absolutely agree.

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Next, with his visit to the factory in mind,

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Digby tackles his final concern - a workforce for the future.

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I am passionate about training,

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and you must be very key in your local community for this.

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Yeah, I think we will probably be one of the biggest investors

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in modern apprentices in the community.

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What are you going to do about Malcolm getting a trainee?

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We know that Malcolm, all being well, will be here for the next ten years, or whatever it is...

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What do you do when he goes on holiday?

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We've got this other guy, Russell, who is equally as skilled.

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But one was on holiday and one was absent in the same week,

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-not three weeks ago.

-And you can stand it for a week, can't you?

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We can stand it for a week, but it creates a problem,

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-because you've got a bottleneck.

-Write it down. Do something about it!

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-Quite right, too.

-Have you got a chequebook in there as well, Digby?

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Don't tell me you can't afford it!

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Where do we want to spend our money?

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Do we want to invest in five new trainees,

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or spend £100,000 tarting up the mill?

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-I'm going to say you want to do both.

-We want to do both, of course we do.

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The journey home,

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and a chance for Digby to reflect on the day's events.

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One of the problems with especially smaller businesses,

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is because they're being quite successful in their niche,

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in a smaller market, they think, "Why do I need to risk all this?

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"Why do I need to push out?"

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But, of course, if you don't go forward,

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you always relatively go backwards.

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We know we should be targeting the Chinese market,

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but it's about deciding how much money we invest

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in trying to develop that market,

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and how quickly we can see some results and benefits from it.

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I think they are quite conservative, with a small 'c',

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and they do find change difficult.

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But, if business exports, you widen your market that you sell to,

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the world, and, because you're out there operating in a wider market,

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you become more productive, you become more competitive,

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you learn new tricks, you bring them home,

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you clean up on the opposition, and you succeed.

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To prove that breaking into China is possible,

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Digby has arranged for Arthur to attend a networking event...

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Ni hao ma!

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..speed dating style!

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You're my first date!

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That's great.

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-I love your dress.

-Oh, thank you.

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I'm here to see if our branded collection

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-is of any interest to the Chinese market.

-OK.

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This is our men's...

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The day offers British companies a chance to meet

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some of the most influential figures in Chinese retail.

0:20:490:20:53

Is this popular in China? Cashmere?

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Arthur has just 20 minutes to pitch to each of the Chinese delegates.

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We also do a ladies' cashmere dress.

0:21:000:21:03

-Very nice.

-I think it would fit you.

0:21:030:21:06

Oh, thank you!

0:21:060:21:07

This is ladies' cashmere.

0:21:110:21:12

So soft, very nice, it's a beautiful collection.

0:21:140:21:17

-Good, thank you very much.

-Very colourful.

-Thank you.

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BELL RINGS

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To enter the Chinese market is risky,

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so it's very important for you to choose the right partner.

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OK!

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Despite the challenges, these meetings confirm

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that the Chinese market represents a huge opportunity.

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THEY SPEAK IN DIALECT

0:21:420:21:46

-Can we buy five samples?

-Yes, of course.

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We can buy it today.

0:21:480:21:50

Thank you for my first order!

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-Thank you very much, yes.

-Thank you.

0:21:520:21:55

BELL RINGS

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I'm Arthur.

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The value of textile exports from Scotland to China

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has trebled since 2000. Last year, they were worth over £9 million.

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But the Chinese consumer appears to prize one thing above all others -

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brand.

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Chinese customer become more sophisticated,

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so they want to know the story of the brand,

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and the heritage will definitely be appreciated by Chinese customers.

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And especially "Made in UK" itself

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has become something of a phenomenon in China.

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See, in China, luxury brands like Fendi, Giorgio Armani, Zegna,

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Hugo Boss, these are the brands that invest a lot of money in China

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-to build their brand image.

-OK, interesting.

0:22:390:22:43

BELL RINGS

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I have a small gift for you.

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-Oh, thank you very much!

-To give to you.

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From Scotland.

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Which is malt whisky.

0:22:530:22:54

Whisky! Wow.

0:22:540:22:56

-Whisky?

-Yeah.

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-Oh, whisky!

-Yes.

-Yeah.

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BELL RINGS

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Been a fairly intense day,

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but it was really good to get an idea of where they're coming from.

0:23:080:23:12

There were two or three really interesting contacts that I made,

0:23:120:23:15

but I think to get into some of the major distribution channels,

0:23:150:23:19

a lot of work has to be done on the branding.

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With a strong brand key to unlocking the Chinese market,

0:23:280:23:31

Digby has arranged for Benny and Arthur to meet him

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at a Scottish manufacturer

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whose brand is recognised all over the world.

0:23:360:23:39

Dewar's Whisky is sold in 114 different countries.

0:23:410:23:46

I think the Scottish whisky industry

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has had tremendous success lately,

0:23:480:23:50

so it'll be interesting to find out how they've achieved that success.

0:23:500:23:54

But the day won't all be work.

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I think there might be an opportunity to have a dram, yes.

0:23:570:24:01

I'm Scottish and it's after 11 o'clock in the morning!

0:24:010:24:05

The Scottish whisky industry generated over £4 billion

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in export revenue last year, over ten times more than textiles.

0:24:080:24:13

One thing, even if subliminally, you do when you drink a drop of whisky

0:24:150:24:20

is you're taking in and associating with all of this,

0:24:200:24:23

with the whole essence of heritage and culture in Scotland.

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If you go to Hawick in Border country,

0:24:290:24:32

famous all over the world for textiles,

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then they start ahead of the game in the export market.

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But they're not exploiting the opportunity as best they could.

0:24:420:24:46

And I hope today they will get a bit more emboldened by what they see

0:24:460:24:51

and also pick up some tricks of the trade.

0:24:510:24:54

Branding is more than just advertising and marketing.

0:25:050:25:09

It's been called the sum of a product's attributes.

0:25:090:25:12

Its personality, its name, its history and how it's made.

0:25:120:25:17

This is the Pitilie Burn.

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The water we use to make the Aberfeldy single malt.

0:25:200:25:22

We actually take it from an underground source,

0:25:220:25:25

about a mile and a half up the hill.

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We do something very similar. We use our own underground water source for

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washing the cashmere and lamb's wool sweaters, and it's what gives

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Scottish knitwear the luxury soft feel it has in the marketplace.

0:25:360:25:40

The parallels between the two businesses are clear.

0:25:420:25:45

This looks like paradise to me, George!

0:25:450:25:47

It's really the heart of the distillery.

0:25:470:25:49

Here, we're going to create the flavours

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and characters we want in our whisky.

0:25:510:25:53

Here we have the road going there, houses.

0:25:550:25:57

This is the heartbeat of the community.

0:25:570:26:00

Just like in Hawick, your factory is the heartbeat of Hawick.

0:26:000:26:04

And that's why manufacturing is so important, so important.

0:26:040:26:09

All manufacturing is about taking raw materials -

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in this case, malted barley and water -

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and adding value to them through the production process.

0:26:150:26:18

But branding can supercharge that.

0:26:190:26:21

If you look at the colour, you can see it's quite light in colour,

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for whisky that's well over 20 years old.

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It helps a product to be desirable.

0:26:260:26:29

To stand out.

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And it persuades us to pay premium prices for it.

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GLASSES CLINK

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Dewar's has made a film to promote its brand.

0:26:430:26:46

The company's Global Brand Manager, John Burke,

0:26:460:26:49

is hosting a private viewing.

0:26:490:26:51

When you buy a bottle of Scotch whisky,

0:26:540:26:57

you buy a hell of a lot more than liquor in a bottle.

0:26:570:27:00

You're buying heritage, you're buying culture,

0:27:000:27:03

you're buying the blood of one small nation.

0:27:030:27:06

It's a slick and seductive piece of marketing

0:27:060:27:09

that imbues the product with almost mystical properties.

0:27:090:27:13

..by those who don't have it.

0:27:130:27:14

John has agreed to share the methods used to create a global brand

0:27:160:27:20

and apply them to Hawick Knitwear.

0:27:200:27:22

What you just saw there with the film,

0:27:220:27:24

the first thing we do when we're working on a brand project is

0:27:240:27:27

we go back to the intrinsic truths in the brand,

0:27:270:27:32

and we're really trying to find what is really unique about this.

0:27:320:27:37

When you think about your brand,

0:27:370:27:39

what are the things that are unique and different about Hawick Knitwear?

0:27:390:27:44

You may turn your papers over and the time starts now!

0:27:440:27:48

Typically, sweaters used to be hand-washed,

0:27:480:27:50

but we can machine-wash and tumble-dry our sweaters.

0:27:500:27:53

We've pioneered that, we've pioneered other things,

0:27:530:27:56

like the sort of linking processes we put on to some of our sweaters.

0:27:560:28:00

John has heard something

0:28:010:28:03

that could take the Hawick Knitwear brand worldwide.

0:28:030:28:07

So that word "pioneering", it could be a value,

0:28:070:28:09

or it could be an idea in your brand,

0:28:090:28:12

if you're the people who have the courage

0:28:120:28:14

to step out in front of the industry and take the risks,

0:28:140:28:16

then you should earn rewards and value from that risk.

0:28:160:28:19

I mean, for sure, all our products are made in Scotland

0:28:190:28:22

by ourselves, and that's something we can absolutely 100% guarantee.

0:28:220:28:27

So that, for me, when I hear that,

0:28:270:28:29

I say you're a brand with integrity, because you've chosen to do that.

0:28:290:28:34

You could have saved money and done it elsewhere

0:28:340:28:36

but you chose to do it all under your own roof.

0:28:360:28:38

A few others have, kind of...

0:28:380:28:39

If you looked at that word "integrity", if that's

0:28:390:28:42

a characteristic of your brand then "pioneering" with "integrity",

0:28:420:28:46

again, all of a sudden

0:28:460:28:47

you're starting to sound quite different as a brand.

0:28:470:28:50

So there's some stuff there that... I'm already getting quite excited.

0:28:500:28:54

I can see you getting excited, actually, John!

0:28:540:28:56

Would that resonate with someone in China?

0:28:560:29:00

The answer is yes. What we're talking about here,

0:29:000:29:02

in terms of pioneering and integrity,

0:29:020:29:04

they're enduring human values.

0:29:040:29:06

You need to do more work to get these things deeper and more unique,

0:29:060:29:10

but once you crack that unique DNA of your business, that creates

0:29:100:29:14

the brief for advertising, it will create the brief for new products

0:29:140:29:18

that you'll create, and then you have a brand.

0:29:180:29:20

A powerful brand identity

0:29:230:29:25

will distinguish Hawick Knitwear from the competition.

0:29:250:29:28

Not only arming them with a weapon

0:29:290:29:31

with which to attack new markets,

0:29:310:29:33

but insulating the business against the threat

0:29:330:29:37

of low-cost imports from Asia.

0:29:370:29:39

It's a lesson that the British textiles industry

0:29:410:29:44

has learned the hard way.

0:29:440:29:45

Of the 29 clothing businesses based in Hawick in the late 1960s,

0:29:490:29:54

fewer than half now remain.

0:29:540:29:56

The Scottish textile industry is full of very passionate people,

0:29:580:30:01

people who understand what it is like to be standing

0:30:010:30:05

at the door of a factory and seeing the door closed on them.

0:30:050:30:10

And towns like Hawick in particular would feel a dramatic loss

0:30:100:30:14

every time there's a mill closure.

0:30:140:30:16

It's part of not only their heritage, it's part of their today.

0:30:160:30:21

Companies are balancing what they do between what they need to do to stay

0:30:210:30:26

alive, and what they would like to do to try and diversify their business.

0:30:260:30:30

When weighing up the pros and cons of Digby's advice,

0:30:320:30:35

Benny's responsibilities - to his workforce

0:30:350:30:38

and to his co-shareholders, who have to back the plans too -

0:30:380:30:42

are very much on his mind.

0:30:420:30:44

Digby's come in as a consultant,

0:30:460:30:47

and I think in some respects, it's easy to be a consultant.

0:30:470:30:51

You can offer up advice,

0:30:510:30:52

but you then walk away and there's no recriminations.

0:30:520:30:55

I'm the MD running the business

0:30:550:30:57

and we need to ensure the business is here in ten, 20, 50 years' time.

0:30:570:31:01

Rather than boom or bust and plough everything into developing China

0:31:020:31:06

and nothing comes of it, we'd rather take things at a much steadier pace.

0:31:060:31:10

Digby knows that pushing out into new markets

0:31:180:31:21

can be risky and expensive,

0:31:210:31:23

but he's still convinced it's the right thing to do.

0:31:230:31:26

If you want something cheap, go somewhere else and buy it.

0:31:270:31:30

But if you want something that no-one else produces,

0:31:300:31:33

something you actually can aspire to, come to Britain.

0:31:330:31:36

That is what manufacturing in the UK in the 21st century is about.

0:31:370:31:41

Get it made here and it'll go round the world.

0:31:410:31:44

Benny's continued hesitance over China is concerning Digby.

0:31:460:31:50

He thinks some expert advice

0:31:500:31:53

could convince Hawick Knitwear to take the plunge.

0:31:530:31:56

And as one of the best-connected figures in British business,

0:31:560:31:59

he knows just the man to offer it.

0:31:590:32:03

HE SPEAKS ITALIAN

0:32:030:32:05

Paul Alger, Director of International Business Development

0:32:050:32:09

for the UK Fashion and Textile Association.

0:32:090:32:12

These organisations, they're very important

0:32:130:32:15

to smaller businesses in a sector.

0:32:150:32:18

You're putting lots of money, time, resource, effort, reputation,

0:32:180:32:21

talent, into an overseas push, and it is frightening.

0:32:210:32:26

So today, to pick their brains, I think,

0:32:260:32:28

is a very important part of what we're trying to achieve.

0:32:280:32:31

Digby wants to establish if the company's current range

0:32:360:32:39

reflects the core values of its brand.

0:32:390:32:41

So he's asked Arthur to pitch the latest collection to Paul.

0:32:430:32:46

Thanks for giving us some time.

0:32:460:32:48

For the next ten minutes, sir, the floor is yours.

0:32:480:32:52

We are a knitwear company based in Hawick.

0:32:520:32:56

We do cashmere, it's all hand-finished,

0:32:560:32:59

it's all top-notch product.

0:32:590:33:01

Lamb's wool.

0:33:010:33:02

Vs and crews, we also do zips.

0:33:050:33:07

We do many textures. This is just a very basic cable.

0:33:090:33:13

This is a new fibre we're running.

0:33:140:33:17

It's luxurious country.

0:33:170:33:18

So these collections have sold very well in the UK

0:33:180:33:21

and we're very keen to replicate the success in other markets.

0:33:210:33:27

Thank you very, very much.

0:33:290:33:31

Paul has immediately spotted a problem with the pitch.

0:33:330:33:36

And a solution.

0:33:360:33:38

My initial perception of this is there's a lot of merchandise here

0:33:390:33:43

and it's all very good.

0:33:430:33:45

My concern is perhaps that

0:33:450:33:46

you've got such a breadth of collection here

0:33:460:33:49

that most buyers will not want to buy into the whole of the range.

0:33:490:33:54

I think I can see what I would refer to

0:33:540:33:56

as a "heritage" range in there,

0:33:560:33:58

which I think is perhaps the most interesting from my perspective,

0:33:580:34:02

certainly for the Asian markets.

0:34:020:34:03

-Sure.

-So I'm loving the cables,

0:34:030:34:06

I'm loving all of these types of garments.

0:34:060:34:09

I find this rugged country look is very successful

0:34:090:34:13

and I would say that's perhaps your point of difference.

0:34:130:34:16

I think what we're concerned with here is the Hawick Knitwear brand,

0:34:160:34:21

particularly the export brand,

0:34:210:34:23

and I would say, based on what I'm seeing here,

0:34:230:34:25

I think your really strong story is the fact that it's made in Scotland

0:34:250:34:29

-and the heritage side...

-Focused?

0:34:290:34:32

Focused, I think.

0:34:320:34:34

Then the discussion takes a surprising turn, away from China.

0:34:340:34:38

This is the look that I see

0:34:390:34:41

whenever I go around big department stores in Japan.

0:34:410:34:44

The Japanese are absolutely desperate to pick up

0:34:440:34:47

quality British product. So the fact that it's made

0:34:470:34:50

in Scotland will absolutely speak volumes to them.

0:34:500:34:55

Unlike China, the route into the Japanese market

0:34:560:34:59

is relatively well-trodden by the UK clothing industry.

0:34:590:35:02

So are you saying, Paul,

0:35:030:35:05

despite Japan being a fairly mature market, you still think

0:35:050:35:09

there is mileage in us for taking this to Japan?

0:35:090:35:12

Absolutely. We must never forgot the importance in fashion of Japan.

0:35:120:35:17

It's a nation of 122 million people who have a great degree of interest

0:35:170:35:23

and knowledge in provenance and good-quality products.

0:35:230:35:26

So if I had enough money to buy one air fare to the Far East,

0:35:260:35:30

would it be to Tokyo or Beijing?

0:35:300:35:33

I'd be sending you off to Tokyo,

0:35:330:35:35

but very much with the whole of Asia in mind.

0:35:350:35:38

I think Japan is low-hanging fruit.

0:35:380:35:41

It's quick and it's easy.

0:35:410:35:44

China is going to take a bit longer, but make no mistake,

0:35:440:35:47

if you haven't got a market in Japan

0:35:470:35:49

then China becomes quite difficult, because they look to see

0:35:490:35:52

what's successful in other markets that they go to,

0:35:520:35:56

and Japan, for Asia at least, is the main international shop window.

0:35:560:36:00

OK, interesting.

0:36:000:36:01

Paul's advice is a surprise to Digby, too.

0:36:050:36:07

We were talking in Edinburgh about China a lot,

0:36:090:36:13

but we didn't mention Japan once. And I didn't.

0:36:130:36:16

And today it's very clear from Paul that that's where they should start.

0:36:160:36:20

China was brought on to our radar.

0:36:200:36:23

Japan has been brought on to our radar,

0:36:230:36:26

and these may become target markets.

0:36:260:36:29

Arthur is keen to adopt Paul's suggestion -

0:36:310:36:34

a slimmed-down collection aimed at Japan.

0:36:340:36:37

I think for the Far Eastern markets

0:36:390:36:41

to have a heritage, capsule collection,

0:36:410:36:44

I think that's a good idea.

0:36:440:36:47

So we need to consider our spend

0:36:470:36:49

but I'm sure we can get budget to go to Japan,

0:36:490:36:52

and our first stop should be Tokyo.

0:36:520:36:55

Now what I want to see is action.

0:37:020:37:04

Do it professionally. Do it competently. But do it.

0:37:040:37:08

At the factory, Arthur is reporting back to Benny,

0:37:130:37:16

who's finally come around to Digby's way of thinking.

0:37:160:37:20

Our intention is to continue to grow the business

0:37:200:37:22

but to do that we need to find new markets.

0:37:220:37:25

Unless you invest in them and try to get in there,

0:37:250:37:27

you will never have any success.

0:37:270:37:30

so we need to allocate some resources to Japan and China.

0:37:300:37:33

With Benny on side, one crucial hurdle remains.

0:37:350:37:39

The shareholders.

0:37:390:37:41

We have a strategy review for the brand and, at that meeting,

0:37:430:37:46

we will just decide what is the priority one in overseas markets

0:37:460:37:50

and how much allocation of resources do we give it.

0:37:500:37:53

With an Asian export drive now definitely on the cards,

0:37:550:37:59

Arthur is forging ahead with a company rebrand.

0:37:590:38:03

The Dewar's visit was great.

0:38:030:38:06

To be talked through the rebranding process

0:38:060:38:08

by taking your business apart, seeing where it's came from,

0:38:080:38:11

and that becomes the essence of your branding.

0:38:110:38:14

It will go on the website,

0:38:150:38:16

on our letterheads, above the door outside the company.

0:38:160:38:20

As part of this rebrand, the mill is getting a make-over.

0:38:220:38:26

I've worked here for nine years. There's been the odd job done.

0:38:280:38:32

But nothing as dramatic as what it is at the minute.

0:38:320:38:36

Walking in in the morning, you really notice a big difference.

0:38:360:38:40

I think when people come in and they see it's a tidy area

0:38:400:38:43

and it's a clean area, that it does sort of raise spirits a little bit.

0:38:430:38:46

Certainly brightens up the place.

0:38:460:38:48

New carpets. Flooring all painted.

0:38:480:38:50

It is nice when visitors or customers come in.

0:38:500:38:54

It's nice and bright and clean, tidy, it makes a difference.

0:38:540:38:57

Even the company's logo, the most tangible part of its brand identity,

0:39:000:39:04

is biting the dust.

0:39:040:39:06

Arthur's commissioned a branding consultancy

0:39:070:39:09

to come up with a new one.

0:39:090:39:11

Our logo has been described as "workmanlike".

0:39:120:39:15

It's quite hard for what is a very soft product.

0:39:150:39:19

So we are excited about having something

0:39:190:39:21

that reflects more our story.

0:39:210:39:23

Emboldened by Digby, Benny is now keen to push out

0:39:250:39:28

into the Far Eastern markets.

0:39:280:39:30

But he needs the backing of the Ruia Group -

0:39:320:39:34

Hawick Knitwear's majority shareholders.

0:39:340:39:37

He's arrived in Bolton for a strategy meeting.

0:39:410:39:44

The Ruia Group have been really supportive,

0:39:460:39:48

so after today's meeting, I'm hoping we'll have everything agreed

0:39:480:39:51

and will know how we're going to go about targeting these markets.

0:39:510:39:55

Benny has decided that he wants the meeting to take place

0:40:030:40:06

away from the cameras.

0:40:060:40:09

The stakes are high.

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The Ruia Group's views could have a huge influence

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on his new-found enthusiasm for Asia.

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Digby believes that skilling up the next generation

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is crucial to the future of British manufacturing.

0:40:350:40:38

Here you are, Ali, that's your wellies for the day.

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Today, 19-year-old Ali Colville is trying his hand

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at one of the most skilled jobs in the entire factory.

0:40:470:40:50

First step, loading up the machines.

0:40:520:40:55

I think you've been up through the night practising!

0:40:550:40:58

I don't ken how to use my washing machine at hame!

0:40:580:41:01

You have to try and get an equal amount in each bit

0:41:010:41:04

or it'll no' spin.

0:41:040:41:05

Right, that's us. Hit that button.

0:41:070:41:10

As well as using soap to clean the garments,

0:41:100:41:12

the milling man adds a complex cocktail of chemicals.

0:41:120:41:16

Sodium sulphate, formic acid and hydrogen peroxide.

0:41:160:41:20

This makes the sweaters washing-machine friendly.

0:41:210:41:24

It's a hi tech job, this.

0:41:240:41:26

-I ken, aye. It's like being back in chemistry at school.

-Aye.

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The work requires a delicate blend of knowledge and intuition.

0:41:310:41:35

I thought it would just be throwing stuff in the wash

0:41:370:41:39

and then pulling them out not long after

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and then putting other ones in, so it's so much more than I expected.

0:41:410:41:44

Would you like to do this as a job?

0:41:460:41:47

See, it's no' boring. You're kept on your toes all day.

0:41:470:41:51

If you're trained as a milling man, you've got a job for life.

0:41:510:41:54

It's time to open up one of the machines.

0:41:540:41:58

Judgment time for Malcolm and Ali.

0:41:580:42:00

You can see yourself, see the wales coming down here,

0:42:040:42:07

and you want a small gap between them.

0:42:070:42:10

Lovely, that's us done our job right.

0:42:100:42:12

I think every department should have a young person in it.

0:42:160:42:19

If anything should happen or anybody should leave,

0:42:190:42:22

it takes so long to train somebody!

0:42:220:42:24

That's up to the bosses!

0:42:260:42:27

After three hours of intense discussion

0:42:360:42:39

with his fellow shareholders, Benny finally emerges.

0:42:390:42:42

A decision about the future direction

0:42:430:42:45

of the Hawick Knitwear brand has been made.

0:42:450:42:48

Digby's suggestions were part of the strategy discussion,

0:42:510:42:55

but primarily we want to focus on continuing to grow the brand

0:42:550:42:59

in the UK and Northern Europe,

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which we think are core markets for the brand,

0:43:000:43:04

and we will see if we pick up any business in the Far East

0:43:040:43:08

without investing a great deal of time or money in it in the short term.

0:43:080:43:13

Disaster for Digby.

0:43:140:43:16

In a matter of hours,

0:43:160:43:18

much of the progress made over the last few months has unravelled.

0:43:180:43:22

Word of the company's u-turn on Asia has reached him.

0:43:220:43:25

He's summoned Benny and Arthur to a meeting.

0:43:320:43:34

But a cosy fireside chat is the last thing on Digby's mind.

0:43:380:43:42

Talk is cheap. I learnt a long time ago, with politicians,

0:43:500:43:53

don't listen to what they say, watch what they do.

0:43:530:43:56

And if I apply that to you, I'm watching what you do,

0:43:560:43:58

which is, you're not doing it.

0:43:580:44:00

We think these emerging markets are really where the future is

0:44:000:44:03

and these could be £5-10 million markets for the business.

0:44:030:44:07

But in the short term, we need to find our feet as a brand,

0:44:070:44:10

so we're going to continue pushing the brand

0:44:100:44:12

in the UK and Northern Europe.

0:44:120:44:14

And, indeed, Arthur's just back in the last couple of weeks

0:44:140:44:16

from Norway and France.

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That, I have to say, is not the happiest news I've ever heard.

0:44:180:44:22

Yup. But it's a bit further afield.

0:44:220:44:24

Norway's got, what, seven million people? And China's got 1.3 billion.

0:44:240:44:28

-Yeah, I know.

-And you hightail off to Oslo!

0:44:280:44:30

Arguably, I will come back with more orders

0:44:300:44:32

in the first quarter of next year from Norway

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than I would come back with from China, but...

0:44:350:44:37

Ooh! Now that's a bet to have! That is a bet to have!

0:44:370:44:41

I think, if the business was a bit more mature,

0:44:410:44:44

and had sounder foundations, we would be targeting it now,

0:44:440:44:49

but we just have to, I think, take cautious steps.

0:44:490:44:52

Yes, and by the way, overtrading or overextending yourself

0:44:520:44:57

is the route to perdition, not success. I do understand that.

0:44:570:45:00

It is just that, what you actually make is just,

0:45:000:45:04

if you'll forgive the pun, tailor-made to get into Asia.

0:45:040:45:08

You've got something special.

0:45:080:45:09

I think you're right.

0:45:090:45:11

Only this week we've had a few orders from Japanese consumers

0:45:110:45:13

buying our product from the website.

0:45:130:45:15

So they're finding us,

0:45:150:45:17

it's typically British heritage-type product.

0:45:170:45:19

Yeah, and Paul at UKFT was saying Japan is aching for what you do.

0:45:190:45:23

They're crying out for your stuff at the moment.

0:45:230:45:27

I would like to think so, yes.

0:45:270:45:28

Our medium-term goal

0:45:280:45:30

is to double the size of the turnover in the next three years.

0:45:300:45:32

-Of course. Well, you won't do that without Asia.

-Yup.

0:45:320:45:35

Because if you want to be in business and you want

0:45:350:45:38

to capitalise on your best assets, it's going to involve risk.

0:45:380:45:42

At some point you're going to have to start walking down that plank

0:45:420:45:45

and you're going to have to jump.

0:45:450:45:47

It's been an uncomfortable meeting,

0:45:500:45:52

and it's left Benny and Arthur with plenty to ponder.

0:45:520:45:55

He seems to think we are prevaricating on things.

0:45:570:45:59

We're absolutely not. We are evaluating these things

0:45:590:46:02

and we take it all absolutely on board.

0:46:020:46:05

He's obviously got some strong points of view on Asia

0:46:060:46:08

and these key emerging markets,

0:46:080:46:10

and I think they are absolutely valid points that he raises.

0:46:100:46:15

I actually think there's more positive wish to change things

0:46:150:46:19

than I feared, but the lack of action - actual, real,

0:46:190:46:25

identifiable action -

0:46:250:46:26

as opposed to planning and thinking about it,

0:46:260:46:30

I am still very worried about that.

0:46:300:46:32

Back at the factory, there has been a surprising development.

0:46:450:46:49

Digby's forthright views on risk and reward have hit home.

0:46:500:46:54

Japan - with its promise of relatively quick returns

0:46:550:46:58

for limited investment - is back on the agenda.

0:46:580:47:01

Benny has grasped the nettle,

0:47:030:47:04

despite the shareholders' reservations.

0:47:040:47:07

Their views in terms of brand strategy are very important.

0:47:070:47:11

But I think, as managing director of the company, it would be foolish

0:47:110:47:14

just to discard Digby's views.

0:47:140:47:16

So I think Arthur's ideas of the capsule collection for Japan

0:47:160:47:20

is certainly worth following through.

0:47:200:47:23

What we need to do is get a Celtic capsule collection,

0:47:230:47:27

which is going to appeal to markets who are looking

0:47:270:47:30

for British-made products with provenance and heritage and history.

0:47:300:47:35

Arthur is acting on UKFT export guru Paul Alger's advice,

0:47:360:47:41

working alongside Hawick Knitwear's in-house designers

0:47:410:47:45

to slim down its range for the Japanese market.

0:47:450:47:48

What we're going to do is select about ten styles

0:47:490:47:53

for the autumn/winter '14 selling season,

0:47:530:47:56

which really starts in two weeks' time,

0:47:560:47:59

so I think we need to move fairly quickly on it.

0:47:590:48:03

And then the tweed overcheck, that's your sort of country gent look.

0:48:030:48:08

That's a winner.

0:48:080:48:10

Maybe the Aran cable?

0:48:100:48:13

The design team are enthused by the challenge

0:48:130:48:15

of creating the new collection.

0:48:150:48:18

I know the Japanese market likes things a bit bolder sometimes

0:48:180:48:21

so you've got your real, traditional, bright,

0:48:210:48:24

Scottish Christmas wear, there.

0:48:240:48:27

We've done capsule collections for private label customers before,

0:48:270:48:31

but this is really the first one under the Hawick Knitwear label,

0:48:310:48:36

so it's really exciting for us.

0:48:360:48:38

Especially from a design point of view,

0:48:380:48:40

because you have to consider what those markets are looking for.

0:48:400:48:44

-Mm-hm.

-I think the Japanese would love that.

-Mm-hm.

0:48:450:48:48

Arthur is keen to underpin the new range

0:48:480:48:51

with a strong and coherent brand identity.

0:48:510:48:55

Mohair tweed, dyed and spun in Donegal, Ireland,

0:48:550:48:59

shipped to Hawick to be knitted,

0:48:590:49:02

-Harris Tweed woven in the Hebridean islands. What a story!

-Perfect!

0:49:020:49:07

With the design phase now complete, it's time to try and whip up

0:49:100:49:14

interest from Japanese buyers.

0:49:140:49:16

But this won't involve a 12,000-mile round trip.

0:49:180:49:21

Instead, it's a short hop across the Irish Sea.

0:49:280:49:31

Trade shows are a great gateway into the international market.

0:49:380:49:41

It gets us in front of customers from all over the world.

0:49:410:49:43

There's quite a few Japanese, maybe some Chinese,

0:49:430:49:46

a lot from North America and Canada,

0:49:460:49:49

and, of course, all over Europe as well.

0:49:490:49:51

What do you think of that, Alessandro?

0:49:510:49:54

We've put some Harris Tweed patches on a lamb's wool product.

0:49:540:49:58

Is this something that excites you?

0:49:580:50:00

We have a few pieces here from the Celtic collection,

0:50:000:50:03

more as talking points with customers than anything else,

0:50:030:50:07

but we're just seeing if there's an appetite for this sort of thing.

0:50:070:50:11

The feedback from Japanese buyers is positive.

0:50:120:50:16

In the four months since his first visit,

0:50:430:50:45

Digby has been helping Hawick Knitwear define its brand

0:50:450:50:49

and chase new markets abroad.

0:50:490:50:50

Now he's back, for the final time.

0:50:520:50:54

So, over the past few months we've actually shown them best practice

0:50:550:50:59

and stimulated thought processes in many different directions.

0:50:590:51:03

Now I want to sit down with Arthur and Benny

0:51:030:51:05

and I want to say, "Right, I've tried to get you to understand

0:51:050:51:09

"how the world is changing. You've got to go with it."

0:51:090:51:12

Now, what are they going to do to help themselves

0:51:120:51:14

and show that it's all been worth it?

0:51:140:51:16

Cheers.

0:51:240:51:25

Lick of paint.

0:51:330:51:34

Before sitting back down with the bosses,

0:51:360:51:38

Digby wants to take one last look around the factory.

0:51:380:51:43

He's already clocked the paint job outside.

0:51:430:51:45

But improvements don't stop at the front door.

0:51:450:51:48

If you actually keep constantly improving the environment,

0:51:480:51:52

you'll find your productivity goes up, the morale goes up

0:51:520:51:56

-and employee loyalty goes up.

-Yep.

0:51:560:51:57

You've got to do it again and again. You mustn't do it just once.

0:51:570:52:00

No, you're right.

0:52:000:52:02

As a passionate believer in apprenticeships and training,

0:52:020:52:05

there is one development that's guaranteed to please Digby.

0:52:050:52:08

-And here's my friend!

-Hello, sir.

0:52:080:52:10

Haven't seen you for a while. And you're Ali.

0:52:100:52:13

So, Ali's spending some time with Malcolm just to learn the skills.

0:52:130:52:16

-We haven't met before.

-No.

0:52:160:52:18

-Are you enjoying it?

-Yeah. It's good.

0:52:180:52:20

-It's all been an insight into what exactly is going on.

-Yeah.

0:52:200:52:23

There's no books on this job.

0:52:230:52:25

-No, exactly.

-There is no "learn how to be a milling man" book.

0:52:250:52:27

-Exactly.

-It's experience.

0:52:270:52:29

And the most important part of it is when you get old and grey,

0:52:290:52:34

well, when you get old, if your skill dies with you, what do we all do?

0:52:340:52:40

It's so important, so I take my hat off to you, mate.

0:52:400:52:43

I really wish you well. And well done.

0:52:430:52:46

See you later!

0:52:460:52:47

Digby wants to ensure that when it comes to expanding into Asia,

0:52:490:52:53

the range is right for the job.

0:52:530:52:55

One of the important things

0:52:570:53:00

that Paul at UK Fashion and Textile said to us was...

0:53:000:53:04

"Really play to your market that you're after".

0:53:040:53:08

And so this is about concentrating on the heritage values of Hawick,

0:53:080:53:14

what I would call the brand values,

0:53:140:53:17

Scotland, country, all that stuff.

0:53:170:53:21

So how have you responded to that?

0:53:210:53:23

We're combining the Harris tweed fabric,

0:53:230:53:25

and our Celtic collection is where we're going

0:53:250:53:28

with the Scottish theme at the moment,

0:53:280:53:30

because your Harris tweed fabric is bang on trend just now.

0:53:300:53:34

And the Asian buyer likes this bit, do they?

0:53:340:53:36

Yeah, I think they'll completely get that.

0:53:360:53:39

Significant progress has been made.

0:53:410:53:44

But Digby is determined that Benny and Arthur

0:53:440:53:46

don't take the foot off the pedal.

0:53:460:53:48

So you're selling domestically. Well, that's 62 million people.

0:53:510:53:54

I would say to you, let's add on Northern Europe.

0:53:540:53:57

Let's make it 100 million people.

0:53:570:53:59

-There are 1.3 billion Chinese on their own.

-Yep.

0:53:590:54:03

There are over 100 million Japanese.

0:54:040:54:05

You're fishing in a bigger pond and you've got much more room to grow.

0:54:050:54:10

You know my views, and I'm up for you doing it in the morning.

0:54:100:54:13

But what gets measured gets done.

0:54:140:54:17

Benny, you would please me hugely

0:54:170:54:21

if you gave me some concrete...benchmarks

0:54:210:54:25

against which I could believe you.

0:54:250:54:27

I'd be disappointed if we're not doing half a million pounds

0:54:270:54:30

in these markets in two years' time.

0:54:300:54:32

-From a standing start?

-Yes. It's ambitious given where we are,

0:54:320:54:35

but Arthur's got half a dozen leads there.

0:54:350:54:37

Ambitious? It's not ambitious enough! LAUGHTER

0:54:370:54:40

See, this is it, conservative with a small 'c'.

0:54:400:54:43

We will have a Japanese partner of some description on board

0:54:430:54:47

by the end of this calendar year.

0:54:470:54:49

There you are. You heard it here first.

0:54:490:54:51

There's a commitment. OK?

0:54:510:54:53

So by the end of 2014,

0:54:530:54:55

-we're going to have a Japanese partner in this business?

-Yes.

0:54:550:54:58

-And by the end of 2015, so that's two full years...

-Yep.

0:54:580:55:03

..you're going to be pushing half a million quid's worth into Asia.

0:55:030:55:07

That's certainly the target. Yep.

0:55:070:55:09

Digby knows that achieving this goal will be impossible

0:55:100:55:13

unless the company can better utilise its brand.

0:55:130:55:16

Believe me, as you move into a globally competitive market,

0:55:180:55:21

exploiting your brand...

0:55:210:55:23

it's...it's essential.

0:55:230:55:25

We have uncovered a rich heritage of pioneering processes

0:55:250:55:31

and technical innovation,

0:55:310:55:33

so what we want to do is incorporate more of that

0:55:330:55:36

into the branding as well.

0:55:360:55:38

And Arthur's got some examples there of some of the initial mock-ups.

0:55:380:55:42

Success for Digby.

0:55:460:55:49

It's still early days, but if Benny and Arthur stick to their guns,

0:55:490:55:53

then they are well on their way to devising a brand

0:55:530:55:56

that could help secure the long-term future of the business.

0:55:560:55:59

Some good ideas there, though.

0:56:010:56:02

Yeah, I think we were thinking of

0:56:020:56:04

the coat-of-arms type idea, something along those lines.

0:56:040:56:07

Well, the coat-of-arms idea,

0:56:070:56:08

that will sell in Japan enormously, won't it?

0:56:080:56:10

You've got a one-off opportunity here, you are developing

0:56:150:56:18

something which no-one else in the world has, which is your brand.

0:56:180:56:21

That is the future for us.

0:56:210:56:23

The future actually is going to be about how far you can take it.

0:56:230:56:27

Gauntlet thrown down,

0:56:300:56:32

it's finally time for Digby and Hawick Knitwear

0:56:320:56:35

to go their separate ways.

0:56:350:56:37

The whole process engaging with Lord Digby Jones

0:56:390:56:41

has been a remarkable journey for us.

0:56:410:56:45

It's quite easy to just concentrate on how we see ourselves,

0:56:450:56:48

so I think it's been really good for him to bring an outside view.

0:56:480:56:54

Yes, I think they're a bit too conservative with a small 'c',

0:56:540:56:58

but you can't blame them, because over the last generation

0:56:580:57:01

they've seen a lot of their compatriots go to the wall,

0:57:010:57:04

and they don't want to join them.

0:57:040:57:07

'Asia is a huge market and it could instantly double turnover.

0:57:070:57:11

'Digby has raised it up our agenda.'

0:57:110:57:13

We're in a much stronger position now to understand the market,

0:57:130:57:17

and we will pursue the Far East market

0:57:170:57:20

more aggressively than when we first started the process.

0:57:200:57:23

Digby is heading back down south,

0:57:250:57:27

confident the rebrand will give the company

0:57:270:57:30

a genuine shot at Far Eastern success

0:57:300:57:33

and all the benefits that brings.

0:57:330:57:36

Globalisation ain't going away.

0:57:360:57:38

You have got the whole of that Asian market

0:57:380:57:43

both as an opportunity and a threat.

0:57:430:57:46

Now it's up to these guys.

0:57:460:57:49

Do they reach out, take that opportunity, never let it go

0:57:490:57:54

and turn it into something where the jobs here are so safe,

0:57:540:57:57

where the skills can be increased,

0:57:570:58:00

where the kids feel they've got a future?

0:58:000:58:03

'That's their challenge.

0:58:030:58:05

'And they go with my best wishes

0:58:050:58:07

'for what I hope will be a wonderful future.'

0:58:070:58:10

Next time...

0:58:220:58:24

-Wow! This is pretty big.

-Yes.

0:58:240:58:26

..Digby helps one business

0:58:260:58:28

rescue Britain's last chest freezer brand from extinction.

0:58:280:58:32

My kingdom...that isn't making anything yet.

0:58:330:58:38

There is a danger

0:58:380:58:39

that they've bitten off a little bit more than they can chew.

0:58:390:58:42

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