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Lord Digby Jones is a champion of British business. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
British manufacturing's got so much to be proud of. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
We make furniture, we make shoes, | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
we make high-performance motor cars, | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
we make volume motor cars, we sell them around the world. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
But it's a constant battle to keep one step ahead of our global rivals. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:22 | |
Manufacturing the right product in the right market | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
at the right time, it matters enormously. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
To survive, British firms will have to be at the top of their game. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:36 | |
You're not trying to say, "I'm the cheapest," | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
you're trying to say, "I'm the best." | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
Now, that is what manufacturing in the UK in the 21st century's about. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:45 | |
And Digby's determined to play his part. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
In a career that's taken him from his parents' corner shop | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
to the House of Lords, | 0:00:52 | 0:00:53 | |
he's helped transform some iconic British companies. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
Now, in a new challenge, can he help three ambitious companies | 0:00:59 | 0:01:04 | |
from the worlds of furniture, fashion, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
and electronics to succeed? | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
We don't do cheap any more. We can't. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
We actually do quality, brand, and innovation. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
That's what's going to make the profit that pays the tax, | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
that builds the schools and hospitals. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
He's demanded access all areas. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
-Wow. This is pretty big. -Yes! | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
He's not afraid to ask the tough questions. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
What part of this do you not understand? | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
Ding-dong! Alarm! | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
Tonight... | 0:01:37 | 0:01:38 | |
..can Digby help a Scottish textiles mill take on the world? | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
I'm here to see if our collection is of any interest | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
to the Chinese market. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
But are they willing to follow his advice | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
and strike out into the unknown? | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
Digby's come in as a consultant. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
In some respects, it's easy to be a consultant. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
You can offer up advice, but you can then walk away | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
and there's no recriminations. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
Digby's convinced he's right... | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
..and the rewards could be huge. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
It's going to involve risk. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
And, at some point, you're going to have to start walking down that plank | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
and you're going to have to jump. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:20 | |
It won't always be easy, and there are difficult decisions ahead. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:26 | |
That's why it's time to call in Digby Jones: The New Troubleshooter. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:31 | |
Hawick in the Scottish Borders. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
They've been making quality knitwear here since the late 1700s. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:48 | |
Today, one of the town's few remaining woollen mills | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
is Hawick Knitwear. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
Many of the employees are long-serving... | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
Well, I've done this job for about 20 years, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
and I still think I'm learning the job. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
..and highly-skilled. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
It takes quite a lot of time to actually get used to | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
putting the material on to the machines. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
It can be tiring, like, by the end of the shift, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
but when you see the finished garments, you take a lot of pride. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
The company has private shareholders... | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
-What time do you finish tonight? -Six. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
..including its boss, who was born and raised in Hawick. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
The decisions he makes effect the lives of hundreds of local people. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:39 | |
It's imperative for the community | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
that businesses like this indeed prosper, and grow, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
and attract young school-leavers back into the business. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
For now, the business is doing well. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
But fashions change, so new orders, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
and its future, are never guaranteed. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
This business is consumer-driven. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
When people don't want to buy a product that's been properly made, | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
with provenance, in the UK, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
and in Scotland in particular, then we're out of business. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
Lord Digby Jones believes that British manufacturers | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
must fight to establish their place in a global market | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
dominated by cheaper Asian competition. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
The UK textile industry is on the front line of that battle. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:42 | |
Today, the industry faces enormous challenges. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
Let's think about a strategic plan for five years out. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
Let's think about the tactics to get you there, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
and then have you got the resources | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
and have you got the skill to get there? | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
These are challenges which face businesses in Britain every day. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
There's a bit of apprehension. We're a major employer in the area. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
I mean, with 235 people, it's feeding a lot of families. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
I think the worst thing he could say is that we're wasting our time | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
and we should close up shop and source from offshore, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
like so many other brands are doing. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
But Digby is backing Made In Britain. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
Over the coming months, he intends to spend time | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
in every part of the business, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
trying to equip Hawick Knitwear with the tools to survive | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
and prosper in the ruthless world of the international textiles trade. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:41 | |
I am to knowledge of textiles and woolly jumpers | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
what Attila the Hun was to architecture, actually. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
I mean, I'm not exactly a world fashion guru. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
If you look at my portly frame, you'll probably understand why. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
But, in terms of the manufacturing process, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
and in terms of them being at the value-added, branded end | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
of the manufacturing chain, on those issues, I'm on very firm ground. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:04 | |
Digby doesn't want to sit down with the bosses just yet. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
First, he wants to get to know the business from the factory floor, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
in the company of manufacturing director Ian McLeod. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
-When you come in here, that, to me, that's manufacturing. -I know. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:31 | |
You're taking ordinary raw material and, by the end of it, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
you've got something that's a sweater. And I...I love it. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
I just love...making things. I love it. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
Come on. Now where are we off to? | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
Digby's visited hundreds of factories over the years. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
He's learnt that every manufacturer | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
is only as good as the men and women on their production line. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
-Hello. -This is Digby Jones. -I'm Digby, good to see you. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
-Robbie's a frameworker working with us. -You're Robbie? | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
You've been here a while? How many years you been...? | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
-1965, I started. -1965? So, you've been here man and boy? | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
-Near enough, like. -And are you a Hawick lad? -Yeah. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
-You've seen a few changes in Hawick? -A lot of changes. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
In the mid-1960s, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
when Hawick's woollen industry was at its height, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
it employed 5,500 people, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
a third of the town's population. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
Today, that number has shrunk to just 1,200. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
This is where the panels are joined together. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
It's a really skilled operation, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:42 | |
-and it takes about a year to train somebody on this. -Right. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
Years ago, the operators were called greasy linkers, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
but obviously, as times change, the girls didn't like | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
being referred to as greasy linkers, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
so they're now called first make-up operators. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
Many of the roles in the factory demand finger-tip precision, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
techniques that are passed down through the generations. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
Malcolm Macdonald learnt his trade from his father. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
He's a milling man, one of the few remaining in Hawick. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
His skills are integral to the prized feel of the town's knitwear. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
-What does it look like? -When I take it out, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
I have to judge how soft that garment is going to be. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
I want to see the nice hair on the top, that's what we call the mill. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
Its always tempting to put more and more mill on | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
-to make them even softer and softer. -So if there was no mill, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
you wouldn't have enough, and if there was too much... | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
-It'd be ruined. -..it'd be ruined, yeah. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
Digby passionately believes that training is crucial | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
to maintaining a healthy business. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
And are you going to teach someone else? | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
I would hope to teach somebody else. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
It's a job where you need a lot of experience. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
You have to realise, if you were the boss of a factory, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
you're trusting me to wash thousands of pounds' worth of garments. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
-And you've got to feel it and sense it? -You can't learn this job through mistakes. -No. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
But, with the tour almost at an end, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
there's still a surprise in store... | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
Not everything the company produces bears its name. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
This is for Famous Grouse. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
Anywhere, does it say you made it? | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
-It says "Made in Scotland." -It says "Made in Scotland," yeah, | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
-but it wouldn't identify you. -No, it doesn't. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
This particular product doesn't identify us. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
Of the 300,000 sweaters made here annually, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
three quarters are for other brands. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
Hawick Knitwear relies heavily on this so-called private label work. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:55 | |
It's their bread and butter. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
We do make for our own brand. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
-Here's one. -These are actually 100% British wool. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:06 | |
-You're making this, you're selling on your brand... -Yes. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
..and, at the same time, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
good profit to be made, good sales to be had | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
by making quality stuff for another brand, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:19 | |
-which, to me, that's whisky. -Yeah. -Big predicament, actually. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
Digby knows developing the Hawick Knitwear own brand | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
is key to the company's long-term survival. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
I hope you're going to say that one of your ambitions | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
is to grow the own brand stuff rather than private label stuff, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
-would that be right? -Definitely. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
We kind of started from scratch three years ago, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
we didn't really have a Hawick Knitwear brand, as such. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
When we were 100% private label, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
you're at the beck and call of the buyers that you're dealing with, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
and if the buyer changes, or the strategy changes, | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
-you've lost your customer. -No control of your destiny. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
You can do everything right, but you still lose the business. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
If the company is to compete against the commercial might of Asia | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
and safeguard the future of its 235-strong workforce, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
then action is needed. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
Maximising the brand in a globally competitive marketplace, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
they need to take a few big decisions, I think. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
A lot of it will come down to the shareholders, actually, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
whether they're prepared to put a bit of money into it. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
Can I see some areas where I think I could give them | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
some advice? Definitely. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
Do I think they're going to take it? | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
I-I think it'll be a bit of a battle to get them to...go forward | 0:11:32 | 0:11:37 | |
more quickly than they're comfortable with. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
So, growing its own brand Hawick Knitwear | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
is the key to a brighter future. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
Having seen how its sweaters are made, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
Digby now wants to find out how they're sold. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
The task of getting own brand product into the UK's shops | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
rests with its two sales managers. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
Anything in particular that has been selling? | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
-The men's cashmere jumpers. -Right. Rather than ladies'? -Yes. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
Derek McCulloch's patch covers Northern England and Scotland. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
You've been a big help. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
Today, he's visiting retail customers in Edinburgh. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
When I took over the area, there were roughly about 20 accounts. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
We're now sitting at well over 110 accounts for Scotland | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
and the north of England area that I actually do. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
So the growth we've had has absolutely been fantastic, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
and the turnover has probably gone up 20 times. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
The company's most profitable outlet is this store, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
a stone's throw from the castle. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
Benny and Arthur have ambitions to double sales | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
of the Hawick Knitwear brand in the next three years. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
Digby wants to find out if that's at all realistic. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
What's your footfall every day? | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
-Couple of hundred. -So, 200 would walk in, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
-how many of those would make a purchase? -Hopefully at least 100. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
And 40% of those are from outside Europe. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
By far the largest proportion of its non-European customers | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
are from China. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
Hello, I'm Digby. You're...? | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
So much so that this shop has hired Chinese-speaking sales assistants. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
Do you speak Mandarin to a customer once a day, once a week? | 0:13:37 | 0:13:43 | |
-30 or 40 people a day like that. -A day? Would be speaking Mandarin? | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
Yeah, yeah. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
The scale of Chinese enthusiasm for the Hawick Knitwear brand | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
has come as a surprise, even to Digby. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
Would Chinese be the biggest overseas customer? | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
Yes. Well, I think so. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
If we are having a travel group from China, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
they will roughly buy £1,000 or something, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
-so that's a big market and big sales. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
The shop visit has convinced Digby | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
that a strategy for building the brand | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
is staring Benny and Arthur in the face. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
Big, big Chinese presence in the customer base, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
so when a Chinese tourist takes something from there, | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
takes it home, and thinks, "I'll have another one of those," | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
they won't come back to Edinburgh to get it. So how are they going to get it? | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
I hope, eventually, they're going to walk into a Hawick store | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
in Shanghai. Now, wouldn't that be fabulous? | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
So, export, export, export! | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
With an emerging middle class of 300 million, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
Digby believes China is a market | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
that ambitious companies can't ignore. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
It's time to deliver that message to Benny and Arthur. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
The emerging markets make so much sense for Britain to export | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
value-added branded quality, innovative, goods. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
Where would you grow your market best? | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
Where there's a ready and willing desire to buy your product, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
-and that's China. -Yeah. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
They are your purchaser. They are your customer base. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
It has "What part of this do you not understand?" written all over it. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
-Well, it's down to resources and money. -Sure. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
No, of course, I see that. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
We need to target what resources we have | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
in the most cost-effective way possible in the short-term, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
until we can get the business a bit more on a solid footing. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:50 | |
You could invest in China for ten years and get nothing back. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
We've chosen, rightly or wrongly, to focus on the low-hanging fruit | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
and try and pick up some success in Northern Europe | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
and the UK, initially. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
Company boss Benny favours a cautious approach to expansion. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
Digby wants to know if brand manager Arthur feels the same way. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:14 | |
What do you think about that? Is he right? | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
No, I think the emerging middle classes | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
are looking for something with provenance and a bit of quality, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
so I think it's time for us to have a look at China again. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
But at the moment you're not trying? | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
Partly, I guess, it's my background as an accountant. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
It's about weighing up the risks and the rewards. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
The old cliche, if you get a salesman to run the business, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
you end up actually with no business. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
And if you get an accountant to run the business, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
you end up with a pile of cash, and no business. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
Well, I like to think it's somewhere in between! | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
But, I would have suggested that, five years out, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
looking back on this business, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
Hawick Knitwear should be an identifiable brand | 0:16:55 | 0:17:00 | |
in the department stores of Beijing and Shanghai. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
And export isn't the only area in which Digby's visit to the shop | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
has had an impact. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
One thing I did think, looking at your shop this morning, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
I thought it looked good. From outside, it basically said, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
"This is going to do what it says on the tin." | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
I think it's nice, clear, concise signage. It's prominent. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
I mean, it was just right. So why doesn't your factory look like that? | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
It did not exactly overwhelm me with a sense of civic pride. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
With the greatest respect, our factory is what it is, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
-it's a 1930s building... -But you could tart it up a bit! | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
It would've been nice, for instance, you know, "Hawick Knitwear," say, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
-"the home of..." something, or, "Welcome to..." -Yeah. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:46 | |
What I think your problem is, you're not putting your party frock and going off to the dance enough. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
Yeah, we need to get the name out there, I absolutely agree. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
Next, with his visit to the factory in mind, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
Digby tackles his final concern - a workforce for the future. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
I am passionate about training, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
and you must be very key in your local community for this. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
Yeah, I think we will probably be one of the biggest investors | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
in modern apprentices in the community. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
What are you going to do about Malcolm getting a trainee? | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
We know that Malcolm, all being well, will be here for the next ten years, or whatever it is... | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
What do you do when he goes on holiday? | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
We've got this other guy, Russell, who is equally as skilled. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
But one was on holiday and one was absent in the same week, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
-not three weeks ago. -And you can stand it for a week, can't you? | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
We can stand it for a week, but it creates a problem, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
-because you've got a bottleneck. -Write it down. Do something about it! | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
-Quite right, too. -Have you got a chequebook in there as well, Digby? | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
Don't tell me you can't afford it! | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
Where do we want to spend our money? | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
Do we want to invest in five new trainees, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
or spend £100,000 tarting up the mill? | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
-I'm going to say you want to do both. -We want to do both, of course we do. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
The journey home, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
and a chance for Digby to reflect on the day's events. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
One of the problems with especially smaller businesses, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
is because they're being quite successful in their niche, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
in a smaller market, they think, "Why do I need to risk all this? | 0:19:14 | 0:19:19 | |
"Why do I need to push out?" | 0:19:19 | 0:19:20 | |
But, of course, if you don't go forward, | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
you always relatively go backwards. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
We know we should be targeting the Chinese market, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
but it's about deciding how much money we invest | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
in trying to develop that market, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:36 | |
and how quickly we can see some results and benefits from it. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
I think they are quite conservative, with a small 'c', | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
and they do find change difficult. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
But, if business exports, you widen your market that you sell to, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:53 | |
the world, and, because you're out there operating in a wider market, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:59 | |
you become more productive, you become more competitive, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
you learn new tricks, you bring them home, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
you clean up on the opposition, and you succeed. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
To prove that breaking into China is possible, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
Digby has arranged for Arthur to attend a networking event... | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
Ni hao ma! | 0:20:26 | 0:20:27 | |
..speed dating style! | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
You're my first date! | 0:20:33 | 0:20:34 | |
That's great. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
-I love your dress. -Oh, thank you. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
I'm here to see if our branded collection | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
-is of any interest to the Chinese market. -OK. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
This is our men's... | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
The day offers British companies a chance to meet | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
some of the most influential figures in Chinese retail. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
Is this popular in China? Cashmere? | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
Arthur has just 20 minutes to pitch to each of the Chinese delegates. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
We also do a ladies' cashmere dress. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
-Very nice. -I think it would fit you. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
Oh, thank you! | 0:21:06 | 0:21:07 | |
This is ladies' cashmere. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:12 | |
So soft, very nice, it's a beautiful collection. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
-Good, thank you very much. -Very colourful. -Thank you. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:21:21 | 0:21:22 | |
To enter the Chinese market is risky, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
so it's very important for you to choose the right partner. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
OK! | 0:21:32 | 0:21:33 | |
Despite the challenges, these meetings confirm | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
that the Chinese market represents a huge opportunity. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
THEY SPEAK IN DIALECT | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
-Can we buy five samples? -Yes, of course. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
We can buy it today. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
Thank you for my first order! | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
-Thank you very much, yes. -Thank you. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:21:55 | 0:21:56 | |
I'm Arthur. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
The value of textile exports from Scotland to China | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
has trebled since 2000. Last year, they were worth over £9 million. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:07 | |
But the Chinese consumer appears to prize one thing above all others - | 0:22:08 | 0:22:13 | |
brand. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
Chinese customer become more sophisticated, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
so they want to know the story of the brand, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
and the heritage will definitely be appreciated by Chinese customers. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:25 | |
And especially "Made in UK" itself | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
has become something of a phenomenon in China. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
See, in China, luxury brands like Fendi, Giorgio Armani, Zegna, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
Hugo Boss, these are the brands that invest a lot of money in China | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
-to build their brand image. -OK, interesting. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:22:43 | 0:22:44 | |
I have a small gift for you. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
-Oh, thank you very much! -To give to you. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
From Scotland. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
Which is malt whisky. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:54 | |
Whisky! Wow. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
-Whisky? -Yeah. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:57 | |
-Oh, whisky! -Yes. -Yeah. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
Been a fairly intense day, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
but it was really good to get an idea of where they're coming from. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
There were two or three really interesting contacts that I made, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
but I think to get into some of the major distribution channels, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
a lot of work has to be done on the branding. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
With a strong brand key to unlocking the Chinese market, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
Digby has arranged for Benny and Arthur to meet him | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
at a Scottish manufacturer | 0:23:35 | 0:23:36 | |
whose brand is recognised all over the world. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
Dewar's Whisky is sold in 114 different countries. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:46 | |
I think the Scottish whisky industry | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
has had tremendous success lately, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
so it'll be interesting to find out how they've achieved that success. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
But the day won't all be work. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
I think there might be an opportunity to have a dram, yes. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
I'm Scottish and it's after 11 o'clock in the morning! | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
The Scottish whisky industry generated over £4 billion | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
in export revenue last year, over ten times more than textiles. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:13 | |
One thing, even if subliminally, you do when you drink a drop of whisky | 0:24:15 | 0:24:20 | |
is you're taking in and associating with all of this, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
with the whole essence of heritage and culture in Scotland. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:28 | |
If you go to Hawick in Border country, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
famous all over the world for textiles, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
then they start ahead of the game in the export market. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
But they're not exploiting the opportunity as best they could. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
And I hope today they will get a bit more emboldened by what they see | 0:24:46 | 0:24:51 | |
and also pick up some tricks of the trade. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
Branding is more than just advertising and marketing. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
It's been called the sum of a product's attributes. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
Its personality, its name, its history and how it's made. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:17 | |
This is the Pitilie Burn. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:20 | |
The water we use to make the Aberfeldy single malt. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
We actually take it from an underground source, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
about a mile and a half up the hill. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
We do something very similar. We use our own underground water source for | 0:25:27 | 0:25:32 | |
washing the cashmere and lamb's wool sweaters, and it's what gives | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
Scottish knitwear the luxury soft feel it has in the marketplace. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
The parallels between the two businesses are clear. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
This looks like paradise to me, George! | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
It's really the heart of the distillery. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
Here, we're going to create the flavours | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
and characters we want in our whisky. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
Here we have the road going there, houses. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
This is the heartbeat of the community. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
Just like in Hawick, your factory is the heartbeat of Hawick. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
And that's why manufacturing is so important, so important. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:09 | |
All manufacturing is about taking raw materials - | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
in this case, malted barley and water - | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
and adding value to them through the production process. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
But branding can supercharge that. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
If you look at the colour, you can see it's quite light in colour, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
for whisky that's well over 20 years old. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
It helps a product to be desirable. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
To stand out. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:30 | |
And it persuades us to pay premium prices for it. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
GLASSES CLINK | 0:26:34 | 0:26:35 | |
Dewar's has made a film to promote its brand. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
The company's Global Brand Manager, John Burke, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
is hosting a private viewing. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
When you buy a bottle of Scotch whisky, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
you buy a hell of a lot more than liquor in a bottle. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
You're buying heritage, you're buying culture, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
you're buying the blood of one small nation. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
It's a slick and seductive piece of marketing | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
that imbues the product with almost mystical properties. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
..by those who don't have it. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:14 | |
John has agreed to share the methods used to create a global brand | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
and apply them to Hawick Knitwear. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
What you just saw there with the film, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
the first thing we do when we're working on a brand project is | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
we go back to the intrinsic truths in the brand, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:32 | |
and we're really trying to find what is really unique about this. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:37 | |
When you think about your brand, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
what are the things that are unique and different about Hawick Knitwear? | 0:27:39 | 0:27:44 | |
You may turn your papers over and the time starts now! | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
Typically, sweaters used to be hand-washed, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
but we can machine-wash and tumble-dry our sweaters. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
We've pioneered that, we've pioneered other things, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
like the sort of linking processes we put on to some of our sweaters. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
John has heard something | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
that could take the Hawick Knitwear brand worldwide. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
So that word "pioneering", it could be a value, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
or it could be an idea in your brand, | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
if you're the people who have the courage | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
to step out in front of the industry and take the risks, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
then you should earn rewards and value from that risk. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
I mean, for sure, all our products are made in Scotland | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
by ourselves, and that's something we can absolutely 100% guarantee. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:27 | |
So that, for me, when I hear that, | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
I say you're a brand with integrity, because you've chosen to do that. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:34 | |
You could have saved money and done it elsewhere | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
but you chose to do it all under your own roof. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
A few others have, kind of... | 0:28:38 | 0:28:39 | |
If you looked at that word "integrity", if that's | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
a characteristic of your brand then "pioneering" with "integrity", | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
again, all of a sudden | 0:28:46 | 0:28:47 | |
you're starting to sound quite different as a brand. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
So there's some stuff there that... I'm already getting quite excited. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
I can see you getting excited, actually, John! | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
Would that resonate with someone in China? | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
The answer is yes. What we're talking about here, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
in terms of pioneering and integrity, | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
they're enduring human values. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
You need to do more work to get these things deeper and more unique, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
but once you crack that unique DNA of your business, that creates | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
the brief for advertising, it will create the brief for new products | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
that you'll create, and then you have a brand. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
A powerful brand identity | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
will distinguish Hawick Knitwear from the competition. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
Not only arming them with a weapon | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
with which to attack new markets, | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
but insulating the business against the threat | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
of low-cost imports from Asia. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
It's a lesson that the British textiles industry | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
has learned the hard way. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:45 | |
Of the 29 clothing businesses based in Hawick in the late 1960s, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
fewer than half now remain. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
The Scottish textile industry is full of very passionate people, | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
people who understand what it is like to be standing | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
at the door of a factory and seeing the door closed on them. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:10 | |
And towns like Hawick in particular would feel a dramatic loss | 0:30:10 | 0:30:14 | |
every time there's a mill closure. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
It's part of not only their heritage, it's part of their today. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:21 | |
Companies are balancing what they do between what they need to do to stay | 0:30:21 | 0:30:26 | |
alive, and what they would like to do to try and diversify their business. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
When weighing up the pros and cons of Digby's advice, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
Benny's responsibilities - to his workforce | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
and to his co-shareholders, who have to back the plans too - | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
are very much on his mind. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
Digby's come in as a consultant, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:47 | |
and I think in some respects, it's easy to be a consultant. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
You can offer up advice, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:52 | |
but you then walk away and there's no recriminations. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
I'm the MD running the business | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
and we need to ensure the business is here in ten, 20, 50 years' time. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
Rather than boom or bust and plough everything into developing China | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
and nothing comes of it, we'd rather take things at a much steadier pace. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
Digby knows that pushing out into new markets | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
can be risky and expensive, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
but he's still convinced it's the right thing to do. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
If you want something cheap, go somewhere else and buy it. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
But if you want something that no-one else produces, | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
something you actually can aspire to, come to Britain. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
That is what manufacturing in the UK in the 21st century is about. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
Get it made here and it'll go round the world. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
Benny's continued hesitance over China is concerning Digby. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
He thinks some expert advice | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
could convince Hawick Knitwear to take the plunge. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
And as one of the best-connected figures in British business, | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
he knows just the man to offer it. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
HE SPEAKS ITALIAN | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
Paul Alger, Director of International Business Development | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
for the UK Fashion and Textile Association. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
These organisations, they're very important | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
to smaller businesses in a sector. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
You're putting lots of money, time, resource, effort, reputation, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
talent, into an overseas push, and it is frightening. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:26 | |
So today, to pick their brains, I think, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
is a very important part of what we're trying to achieve. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
Digby wants to establish if the company's current range | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
reflects the core values of its brand. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
So he's asked Arthur to pitch the latest collection to Paul. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
Thanks for giving us some time. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
For the next ten minutes, sir, the floor is yours. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
We are a knitwear company based in Hawick. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
We do cashmere, it's all hand-finished, | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
it's all top-notch product. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
Lamb's wool. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:02 | |
Vs and crews, we also do zips. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
We do many textures. This is just a very basic cable. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
This is a new fibre we're running. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
It's luxurious country. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:18 | |
So these collections have sold very well in the UK | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
and we're very keen to replicate the success in other markets. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:27 | |
Thank you very, very much. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
Paul has immediately spotted a problem with the pitch. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
And a solution. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
My initial perception of this is there's a lot of merchandise here | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
and it's all very good. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
My concern is perhaps that | 0:33:45 | 0:33:46 | |
you've got such a breadth of collection here | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
that most buyers will not want to buy into the whole of the range. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:54 | |
I think I can see what I would refer to | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
as a "heritage" range in there, | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
which I think is perhaps the most interesting from my perspective, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
certainly for the Asian markets. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:03 | |
-Sure. -So I'm loving the cables, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
I'm loving all of these types of garments. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
I find this rugged country look is very successful | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
and I would say that's perhaps your point of difference. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
I think what we're concerned with here is the Hawick Knitwear brand, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:21 | |
particularly the export brand, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
and I would say, based on what I'm seeing here, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
I think your really strong story is the fact that it's made in Scotland | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
-and the heritage side... -Focused? | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
Focused, I think. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
Then the discussion takes a surprising turn, away from China. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
This is the look that I see | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
whenever I go around big department stores in Japan. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
The Japanese are absolutely desperate to pick up | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
quality British product. So the fact that it's made | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
in Scotland will absolutely speak volumes to them. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:55 | |
Unlike China, the route into the Japanese market | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
is relatively well-trodden by the UK clothing industry. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
So are you saying, Paul, | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
despite Japan being a fairly mature market, you still think | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
there is mileage in us for taking this to Japan? | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
Absolutely. We must never forgot the importance in fashion of Japan. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:17 | |
It's a nation of 122 million people who have a great degree of interest | 0:35:17 | 0:35:23 | |
and knowledge in provenance and good-quality products. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
So if I had enough money to buy one air fare to the Far East, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
would it be to Tokyo or Beijing? | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
I'd be sending you off to Tokyo, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
but very much with the whole of Asia in mind. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
I think Japan is low-hanging fruit. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
It's quick and it's easy. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
China is going to take a bit longer, but make no mistake, | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
if you haven't got a market in Japan | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
then China becomes quite difficult, because they look to see | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
what's successful in other markets that they go to, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
and Japan, for Asia at least, is the main international shop window. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
OK, interesting. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:01 | |
Paul's advice is a surprise to Digby, too. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
We were talking in Edinburgh about China a lot, | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
but we didn't mention Japan once. And I didn't. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
And today it's very clear from Paul that that's where they should start. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
China was brought on to our radar. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
Japan has been brought on to our radar, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
and these may become target markets. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
Arthur is keen to adopt Paul's suggestion - | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
a slimmed-down collection aimed at Japan. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
I think for the Far Eastern markets | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
to have a heritage, capsule collection, | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
I think that's a good idea. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
So we need to consider our spend | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
but I'm sure we can get budget to go to Japan, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
and our first stop should be Tokyo. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
Now what I want to see is action. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
Do it professionally. Do it competently. But do it. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
At the factory, Arthur is reporting back to Benny, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
who's finally come around to Digby's way of thinking. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
Our intention is to continue to grow the business | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
but to do that we need to find new markets. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
Unless you invest in them and try to get in there, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
you will never have any success. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
so we need to allocate some resources to Japan and China. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
With Benny on side, one crucial hurdle remains. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
The shareholders. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
We have a strategy review for the brand and, at that meeting, | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
we will just decide what is the priority one in overseas markets | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
and how much allocation of resources do we give it. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
With an Asian export drive now definitely on the cards, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
Arthur is forging ahead with a company rebrand. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
The Dewar's visit was great. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
To be talked through the rebranding process | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
by taking your business apart, seeing where it's came from, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
and that becomes the essence of your branding. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
It will go on the website, | 0:38:15 | 0:38:16 | |
on our letterheads, above the door outside the company. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
As part of this rebrand, the mill is getting a make-over. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
I've worked here for nine years. There's been the odd job done. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
But nothing as dramatic as what it is at the minute. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
Walking in in the morning, you really notice a big difference. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
I think when people come in and they see it's a tidy area | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
and it's a clean area, that it does sort of raise spirits a little bit. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
Certainly brightens up the place. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
New carpets. Flooring all painted. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
It is nice when visitors or customers come in. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
It's nice and bright and clean, tidy, it makes a difference. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
Even the company's logo, the most tangible part of its brand identity, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
is biting the dust. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
Arthur's commissioned a branding consultancy | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
to come up with a new one. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
Our logo has been described as "workmanlike". | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
It's quite hard for what is a very soft product. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
So we are excited about having something | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
that reflects more our story. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
Emboldened by Digby, Benny is now keen to push out | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
into the Far Eastern markets. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
But he needs the backing of the Ruia Group - | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
Hawick Knitwear's majority shareholders. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
He's arrived in Bolton for a strategy meeting. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
The Ruia Group have been really supportive, | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
so after today's meeting, I'm hoping we'll have everything agreed | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
and will know how we're going to go about targeting these markets. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
Benny has decided that he wants the meeting to take place | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
away from the cameras. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
The stakes are high. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:10 | |
The Ruia Group's views could have a huge influence | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
on his new-found enthusiasm for Asia. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
Digby believes that skilling up the next generation | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
is crucial to the future of British manufacturing. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
Here you are, Ali, that's your wellies for the day. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
Today, 19-year-old Ali Colville is trying his hand | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
at one of the most skilled jobs in the entire factory. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
First step, loading up the machines. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
I think you've been up through the night practising! | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
I don't ken how to use my washing machine at hame! | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
You have to try and get an equal amount in each bit | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
or it'll no' spin. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:05 | |
Right, that's us. Hit that button. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
As well as using soap to clean the garments, | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
the milling man adds a complex cocktail of chemicals. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
Sodium sulphate, formic acid and hydrogen peroxide. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
This makes the sweaters washing-machine friendly. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
It's a hi tech job, this. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
-I ken, aye. It's like being back in chemistry at school. -Aye. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
The work requires a delicate blend of knowledge and intuition. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
I thought it would just be throwing stuff in the wash | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
and then pulling them out not long after | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
and then putting other ones in, so it's so much more than I expected. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
Would you like to do this as a job? | 0:41:46 | 0:41:47 | |
See, it's no' boring. You're kept on your toes all day. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
If you're trained as a milling man, you've got a job for life. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
It's time to open up one of the machines. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
Judgment time for Malcolm and Ali. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
You can see yourself, see the wales coming down here, | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
and you want a small gap between them. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
Lovely, that's us done our job right. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
I think every department should have a young person in it. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
If anything should happen or anybody should leave, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
it takes so long to train somebody! | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
That's up to the bosses! | 0:42:26 | 0:42:27 | |
After three hours of intense discussion | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
with his fellow shareholders, Benny finally emerges. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
A decision about the future direction | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
of the Hawick Knitwear brand has been made. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
Digby's suggestions were part of the strategy discussion, | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
but primarily we want to focus on continuing to grow the brand | 0:42:55 | 0:42:59 | |
in the UK and Northern Europe, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:00 | |
which we think are core markets for the brand, | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
and we will see if we pick up any business in the Far East | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
without investing a great deal of time or money in it in the short term. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:13 | |
Disaster for Digby. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:16 | |
In a matter of hours, | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
much of the progress made over the last few months has unravelled. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:22 | |
Word of the company's u-turn on Asia has reached him. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
He's summoned Benny and Arthur to a meeting. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
But a cosy fireside chat is the last thing on Digby's mind. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
Talk is cheap. I learnt a long time ago, with politicians, | 0:43:50 | 0:43:53 | |
don't listen to what they say, watch what they do. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
And if I apply that to you, I'm watching what you do, | 0:43:56 | 0:43:58 | |
which is, you're not doing it. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:00 | |
We think these emerging markets are really where the future is | 0:44:00 | 0:44:03 | |
and these could be £5-10 million markets for the business. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:07 | |
But in the short term, we need to find our feet as a brand, | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
so we're going to continue pushing the brand | 0:44:10 | 0:44:12 | |
in the UK and Northern Europe. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
And, indeed, Arthur's just back in the last couple of weeks | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
from Norway and France. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:18 | |
That, I have to say, is not the happiest news I've ever heard. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:22 | |
Yup. But it's a bit further afield. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:24 | |
Norway's got, what, seven million people? And China's got 1.3 billion. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:28 | |
-Yeah, I know. -And you hightail off to Oslo! | 0:44:28 | 0:44:30 | |
Arguably, I will come back with more orders | 0:44:30 | 0:44:32 | |
in the first quarter of next year from Norway | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
than I would come back with from China, but... | 0:44:35 | 0:44:37 | |
Ooh! Now that's a bet to have! That is a bet to have! | 0:44:37 | 0:44:41 | |
I think, if the business was a bit more mature, | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
and had sounder foundations, we would be targeting it now, | 0:44:44 | 0:44:49 | |
but we just have to, I think, take cautious steps. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
Yes, and by the way, overtrading or overextending yourself | 0:44:52 | 0:44:57 | |
is the route to perdition, not success. I do understand that. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
It is just that, what you actually make is just, | 0:45:00 | 0:45:04 | |
if you'll forgive the pun, tailor-made to get into Asia. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:08 | |
You've got something special. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:09 | |
I think you're right. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
Only this week we've had a few orders from Japanese consumers | 0:45:11 | 0:45:13 | |
buying our product from the website. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:15 | |
So they're finding us, | 0:45:15 | 0:45:17 | |
it's typically British heritage-type product. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:19 | |
Yeah, and Paul at UKFT was saying Japan is aching for what you do. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:23 | |
They're crying out for your stuff at the moment. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:27 | |
I would like to think so, yes. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:28 | |
Our medium-term goal | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
is to double the size of the turnover in the next three years. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:32 | |
-Of course. Well, you won't do that without Asia. -Yup. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
Because if you want to be in business and you want | 0:45:35 | 0:45:38 | |
to capitalise on your best assets, it's going to involve risk. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:42 | |
At some point you're going to have to start walking down that plank | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
and you're going to have to jump. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
It's been an uncomfortable meeting, | 0:45:50 | 0:45:52 | |
and it's left Benny and Arthur with plenty to ponder. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:55 | |
He seems to think we are prevaricating on things. | 0:45:57 | 0:45:59 | |
We're absolutely not. We are evaluating these things | 0:45:59 | 0:46:02 | |
and we take it all absolutely on board. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
He's obviously got some strong points of view on Asia | 0:46:06 | 0:46:08 | |
and these key emerging markets, | 0:46:08 | 0:46:10 | |
and I think they are absolutely valid points that he raises. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:15 | |
I actually think there's more positive wish to change things | 0:46:15 | 0:46:19 | |
than I feared, but the lack of action - actual, real, | 0:46:19 | 0:46:25 | |
identifiable action - | 0:46:25 | 0:46:26 | |
as opposed to planning and thinking about it, | 0:46:26 | 0:46:30 | |
I am still very worried about that. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:32 | |
Back at the factory, there has been a surprising development. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:49 | |
Digby's forthright views on risk and reward have hit home. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:54 | |
Japan - with its promise of relatively quick returns | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
for limited investment - is back on the agenda. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
Benny has grasped the nettle, | 0:47:03 | 0:47:04 | |
despite the shareholders' reservations. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:07 | |
Their views in terms of brand strategy are very important. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:11 | |
But I think, as managing director of the company, it would be foolish | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
just to discard Digby's views. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:16 | |
So I think Arthur's ideas of the capsule collection for Japan | 0:47:16 | 0:47:20 | |
is certainly worth following through. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:23 | |
What we need to do is get a Celtic capsule collection, | 0:47:23 | 0:47:27 | |
which is going to appeal to markets who are looking | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
for British-made products with provenance and heritage and history. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:35 | |
Arthur is acting on UKFT export guru Paul Alger's advice, | 0:47:36 | 0:47:41 | |
working alongside Hawick Knitwear's in-house designers | 0:47:41 | 0:47:45 | |
to slim down its range for the Japanese market. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:48 | |
What we're going to do is select about ten styles | 0:47:49 | 0:47:53 | |
for the autumn/winter '14 selling season, | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
which really starts in two weeks' time, | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
so I think we need to move fairly quickly on it. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
And then the tweed overcheck, that's your sort of country gent look. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:08 | |
That's a winner. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
Maybe the Aran cable? | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
The design team are enthused by the challenge | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
of creating the new collection. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:18 | |
I know the Japanese market likes things a bit bolder sometimes | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
so you've got your real, traditional, bright, | 0:48:21 | 0:48:24 | |
Scottish Christmas wear, there. | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
We've done capsule collections for private label customers before, | 0:48:27 | 0:48:31 | |
but this is really the first one under the Hawick Knitwear label, | 0:48:31 | 0:48:36 | |
so it's really exciting for us. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
Especially from a design point of view, | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
because you have to consider what those markets are looking for. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:44 | |
-Mm-hm. -I think the Japanese would love that. -Mm-hm. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
Arthur is keen to underpin the new range | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
with a strong and coherent brand identity. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:55 | |
Mohair tweed, dyed and spun in Donegal, Ireland, | 0:48:55 | 0:48:59 | |
shipped to Hawick to be knitted, | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
-Harris Tweed woven in the Hebridean islands. What a story! -Perfect! | 0:49:02 | 0:49:07 | |
With the design phase now complete, it's time to try and whip up | 0:49:10 | 0:49:14 | |
interest from Japanese buyers. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:16 | |
But this won't involve a 12,000-mile round trip. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
Instead, it's a short hop across the Irish Sea. | 0:49:28 | 0:49:31 | |
Trade shows are a great gateway into the international market. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:41 | |
It gets us in front of customers from all over the world. | 0:49:41 | 0:49:43 | |
There's quite a few Japanese, maybe some Chinese, | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
a lot from North America and Canada, | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
and, of course, all over Europe as well. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:51 | |
What do you think of that, Alessandro? | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
We've put some Harris Tweed patches on a lamb's wool product. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:58 | |
Is this something that excites you? | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
We have a few pieces here from the Celtic collection, | 0:50:00 | 0:50:03 | |
more as talking points with customers than anything else, | 0:50:03 | 0:50:07 | |
but we're just seeing if there's an appetite for this sort of thing. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:11 | |
The feedback from Japanese buyers is positive. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:16 | |
In the four months since his first visit, | 0:50:43 | 0:50:45 | |
Digby has been helping Hawick Knitwear define its brand | 0:50:45 | 0:50:49 | |
and chase new markets abroad. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:50 | |
Now he's back, for the final time. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:54 | |
So, over the past few months we've actually shown them best practice | 0:50:55 | 0:50:59 | |
and stimulated thought processes in many different directions. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:03 | |
Now I want to sit down with Arthur and Benny | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
and I want to say, "Right, I've tried to get you to understand | 0:51:05 | 0:51:09 | |
"how the world is changing. You've got to go with it." | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
Now, what are they going to do to help themselves | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
and show that it's all been worth it? | 0:51:14 | 0:51:16 | |
Cheers. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:25 | |
Lick of paint. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:34 | |
Before sitting back down with the bosses, | 0:51:36 | 0:51:38 | |
Digby wants to take one last look around the factory. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:43 | |
He's already clocked the paint job outside. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:45 | |
But improvements don't stop at the front door. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:48 | |
If you actually keep constantly improving the environment, | 0:51:48 | 0:51:52 | |
you'll find your productivity goes up, the morale goes up | 0:51:52 | 0:51:56 | |
-and employee loyalty goes up. -Yep. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:57 | |
You've got to do it again and again. You mustn't do it just once. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
No, you're right. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
As a passionate believer in apprenticeships and training, | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
there is one development that's guaranteed to please Digby. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
-And here's my friend! -Hello, sir. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:10 | |
Haven't seen you for a while. And you're Ali. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
So, Ali's spending some time with Malcolm just to learn the skills. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
-We haven't met before. -No. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
-Are you enjoying it? -Yeah. It's good. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:20 | |
-It's all been an insight into what exactly is going on. -Yeah. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:23 | |
There's no books on this job. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:25 | |
-No, exactly. -There is no "learn how to be a milling man" book. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
-Exactly. -It's experience. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
And the most important part of it is when you get old and grey, | 0:52:29 | 0:52:34 | |
well, when you get old, if your skill dies with you, what do we all do? | 0:52:34 | 0:52:40 | |
It's so important, so I take my hat off to you, mate. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
I really wish you well. And well done. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
See you later! | 0:52:46 | 0:52:47 | |
Digby wants to ensure that when it comes to expanding into Asia, | 0:52:49 | 0:52:53 | |
the range is right for the job. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
One of the important things | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
that Paul at UK Fashion and Textile said to us was... | 0:53:00 | 0:53:04 | |
"Really play to your market that you're after". | 0:53:04 | 0:53:08 | |
And so this is about concentrating on the heritage values of Hawick, | 0:53:08 | 0:53:14 | |
what I would call the brand values, | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
Scotland, country, all that stuff. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:21 | |
So how have you responded to that? | 0:53:21 | 0:53:23 | |
We're combining the Harris tweed fabric, | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
and our Celtic collection is where we're going | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
with the Scottish theme at the moment, | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
because your Harris tweed fabric is bang on trend just now. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:34 | |
And the Asian buyer likes this bit, do they? | 0:53:34 | 0:53:36 | |
Yeah, I think they'll completely get that. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
Significant progress has been made. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:44 | |
But Digby is determined that Benny and Arthur | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
don't take the foot off the pedal. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:48 | |
So you're selling domestically. Well, that's 62 million people. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
I would say to you, let's add on Northern Europe. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
Let's make it 100 million people. | 0:53:57 | 0:53:59 | |
-There are 1.3 billion Chinese on their own. -Yep. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:03 | |
There are over 100 million Japanese. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:05 | |
You're fishing in a bigger pond and you've got much more room to grow. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:10 | |
You know my views, and I'm up for you doing it in the morning. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:13 | |
But what gets measured gets done. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:17 | |
Benny, you would please me hugely | 0:54:17 | 0:54:21 | |
if you gave me some concrete...benchmarks | 0:54:21 | 0:54:25 | |
against which I could believe you. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
I'd be disappointed if we're not doing half a million pounds | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
in these markets in two years' time. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:32 | |
-From a standing start? -Yes. It's ambitious given where we are, | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
but Arthur's got half a dozen leads there. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:37 | |
Ambitious? It's not ambitious enough! LAUGHTER | 0:54:37 | 0:54:40 | |
See, this is it, conservative with a small 'c'. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
We will have a Japanese partner of some description on board | 0:54:43 | 0:54:47 | |
by the end of this calendar year. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:49 | |
There you are. You heard it here first. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:51 | |
There's a commitment. OK? | 0:54:51 | 0:54:53 | |
So by the end of 2014, | 0:54:53 | 0:54:55 | |
-we're going to have a Japanese partner in this business? -Yes. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
-And by the end of 2015, so that's two full years... -Yep. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:03 | |
..you're going to be pushing half a million quid's worth into Asia. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:07 | |
That's certainly the target. Yep. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:09 | |
Digby knows that achieving this goal will be impossible | 0:55:10 | 0:55:13 | |
unless the company can better utilise its brand. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
Believe me, as you move into a globally competitive market, | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
exploiting your brand... | 0:55:21 | 0:55:23 | |
it's...it's essential. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
We have uncovered a rich heritage of pioneering processes | 0:55:25 | 0:55:31 | |
and technical innovation, | 0:55:31 | 0:55:33 | |
so what we want to do is incorporate more of that | 0:55:33 | 0:55:36 | |
into the branding as well. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:38 | |
And Arthur's got some examples there of some of the initial mock-ups. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:42 | |
Success for Digby. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
It's still early days, but if Benny and Arthur stick to their guns, | 0:55:49 | 0:55:53 | |
then they are well on their way to devising a brand | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
that could help secure the long-term future of the business. | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
Some good ideas there, though. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:02 | |
Yeah, I think we were thinking of | 0:56:02 | 0:56:04 | |
the coat-of-arms type idea, something along those lines. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:07 | |
Well, the coat-of-arms idea, | 0:56:07 | 0:56:08 | |
that will sell in Japan enormously, won't it? | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
You've got a one-off opportunity here, you are developing | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
something which no-one else in the world has, which is your brand. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
That is the future for us. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:23 | |
The future actually is going to be about how far you can take it. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:27 | |
Gauntlet thrown down, | 0:56:30 | 0:56:32 | |
it's finally time for Digby and Hawick Knitwear | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
to go their separate ways. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:37 | |
The whole process engaging with Lord Digby Jones | 0:56:39 | 0:56:41 | |
has been a remarkable journey for us. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:45 | |
It's quite easy to just concentrate on how we see ourselves, | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
so I think it's been really good for him to bring an outside view. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:54 | |
Yes, I think they're a bit too conservative with a small 'c', | 0:56:54 | 0:56:58 | |
but you can't blame them, because over the last generation | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
they've seen a lot of their compatriots go to the wall, | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
and they don't want to join them. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:07 | |
'Asia is a huge market and it could instantly double turnover. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:11 | |
'Digby has raised it up our agenda.' | 0:57:11 | 0:57:13 | |
We're in a much stronger position now to understand the market, | 0:57:13 | 0:57:17 | |
and we will pursue the Far East market | 0:57:17 | 0:57:20 | |
more aggressively than when we first started the process. | 0:57:20 | 0:57:23 | |
Digby is heading back down south, | 0:57:25 | 0:57:27 | |
confident the rebrand will give the company | 0:57:27 | 0:57:30 | |
a genuine shot at Far Eastern success | 0:57:30 | 0:57:33 | |
and all the benefits that brings. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:36 | |
Globalisation ain't going away. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:38 | |
You have got the whole of that Asian market | 0:57:38 | 0:57:43 | |
both as an opportunity and a threat. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:46 | |
Now it's up to these guys. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:49 | |
Do they reach out, take that opportunity, never let it go | 0:57:49 | 0:57:54 | |
and turn it into something where the jobs here are so safe, | 0:57:54 | 0:57:57 | |
where the skills can be increased, | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
where the kids feel they've got a future? | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
'That's their challenge. | 0:58:03 | 0:58:05 | |
'And they go with my best wishes | 0:58:05 | 0:58:07 | |
'for what I hope will be a wonderful future.' | 0:58:07 | 0:58:10 | |
Next time... | 0:58:22 | 0:58:24 | |
-Wow! This is pretty big. -Yes. | 0:58:24 | 0:58:26 | |
..Digby helps one business | 0:58:26 | 0:58:28 | |
rescue Britain's last chest freezer brand from extinction. | 0:58:28 | 0:58:32 | |
My kingdom...that isn't making anything yet. | 0:58:33 | 0:58:38 | |
There is a danger | 0:58:38 | 0:58:39 | |
that they've bitten off a little bit more than they can chew. | 0:58:39 | 0:58:42 |