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Lord Digby Jones is a champion of British business. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
British manufacturing's got so much to be proud of. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
We make furniture. We make shoes. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
We make high-performance motorcars. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
We make volume motorcars. We sell them around the world. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
But it's a constant battle to keep one step ahead of our global rivals. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
Manufacturing at the right product, | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
in the right market, at the right time - it matters enormously. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
To survive, British firms will have to be at the top of their game. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
You're not trying to say, "I'm the cheapest." | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
You're trying to say, "I'm the best." | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
Now, that is what manufacturing in the UK in the 21st century is about. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
And Digby's determined to play his part. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
In a career that's taken him from his parents' corner shop | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
to the House of Lords, | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
he's helped transform some iconic British companies. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
Now, in a new challenge, can he help three ambitious companies | 0:01:00 | 0:01:05 | |
from the worlds of furniture, fashion and electronics to succeed? | 0:01:05 | 0:01:10 | |
We don't do cheap any more. We can't! | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
We actually do quality, brand and innovation. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
That's what's going to make the profit that pays the tax | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
that builds the schools and hospitals. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
He's demanded access all areas... | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
-Wow! This is pretty big! -Yes. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
..and he's not afraid to ask the tough questions. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
What part of this do you not understand? | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
Ding-dong! Alarm! | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
Tonight, Digby Jones tries to help one company | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
take a radical change in direction. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
They're doing this on gut instinct. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
It's going to call for nerves of steel... | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
-Scary! -It's exciting! | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
..and everyone's agreement on priorities. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
-I don't think that's necessarily important to us. -Prove it to me. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:01 | |
SHE CLEARS HER THROAT | 0:02:01 | 0:02:02 | |
Can the company's ambitious plans be kept on course by Digby Jones... | 0:02:02 | 0:02:07 | |
..the new trouble-shooter? | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
Someday, some way, I'm going to have a Servis fully automatic. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:30 | |
British electrical brands were once portrayed in adverts | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
as the ultimate in domestic chic. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
Today, it's rival imported brands that sell us | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
short cuts to sophistication. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
Now, one company is taking the biggest gamble in its history | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
with a plan to get British-made white goods back into British homes. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:55 | |
This is Ebac in County Durham, northeast England. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
They make water coolers and dehumidifiers... | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
and they're very good at it. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
This is the managing director, Pamela Petty. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
The buzz I get is in this factory, seeing that line there, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
filled with product and people working. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
I think it's brilliant. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
Her dad, John, is the founder and chairman | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
and sister Amanda is manufacturing director, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
but there's more to this family than making water coolers. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
'This is John Elliot, signing away his personal fortune.' | 0:03:41 | 0:03:46 | |
In 2012, chairman John turned the company into a foundation, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:51 | |
meaning all profits had to be put back into the business | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
or go to local community projects. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
The change also deprived Pam of a possible | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
multimillion pound inheritance. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
I've given up my inheritance, but I'm a big girl. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
I can earn my living. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
So I was more than happy, actually, to go ahead with it, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:19 | |
for what it means to everybody. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:20 | |
In fact, Pam's pushing it even further. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
She's taking an extraordinary gamble that could help create 200 jobs, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:35 | |
increase turnover from 15 to 50 million, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
or plunge the company into the red. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
Almost on impulse, and with only a basic business plan, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:48 | |
Pam's spent £1 million on this... | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
..a business that's gone into administration twice in ten years. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
Pam's bought the Norfrost chest freezer brand | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
and a factory-load of equipment | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
after company that owned it went bust. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
She plans to move the entire set-up from its base near John o'Groats | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
over 400 miles south, to County Durham. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
This lovely chest freezer's going to create lots of jobs. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
Pam's ambitious plan to lead Ebac to unprecedented growth | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
rests on resurrecting this frozen freezer brand. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
So, she's asked for Digby's help | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
to overcome the many obstacles in her path. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
This is the first time I've ever been involved | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
in something of this scale. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
The company must absorb the shock | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
of only operating in a niche market it dominates, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
to also fighting in the huge domestic electrical goods sector. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
The old production line must be modernised | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
to make freezers more efficiently. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
And she has to persuade the public to abandon the foreign brands | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
they already trust and buy her freezers. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
Pam's hoping to be stocked in shops by Christmas | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
in just six weeks' time. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
Diversifying into new products is one way | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
for British manufacturers to compete in the global market. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
In an attempt to ensure Ebac's expansion succeeds, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
Pam's called on Digby's help. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
'Hello.' | 0:06:48 | 0:06:49 | |
-Hello, Pamela. It's Digby Jones. -'Good morning. How are you?' | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
Good morning. I'm very well and I'm very excited, actually... | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
Digby is a passionate supporter of British manufacturing. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
In the 1970s, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
manufacturing contributed to 30% of the country's wealth. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
Now, it's around 10%. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
He believes helping Pam pull off her plan | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
could benefit the entire region. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
We're on the way to Ebac. It's in Newton Aycliffe, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
right in the northeast of England, almost into Scotland, not quite, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:28 | |
and a region that's had its enormous challenges over the past few years. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:33 | |
The demise of ship building, coal, steel, all the commodity stuff, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
where you had lots and lots of unskilled labour | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
but guaranteed a job. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
And, of course, now that's all gone and how do you get a region | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
to create wealth, employ people and succeed and have the morale up? | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
It'll be interesting to see how they deal with that. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
Pam's diversification from a core business | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
into a new sector, white goods, is risky. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
Some companies, like Virgin, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
who diversified from music to an airline, make millions, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
but bad diversification decisions can ruin companies too. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
So, Pam can be sure of one thing - Digby won't be pulling his punches. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
Coming in to work this morning, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
I think I actually took a conscious decision. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
Just, you know it, girl, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
when he comes in, he's going to ask you some questions | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
and just answer them. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:27 | |
Will he start gently or go straight for the jugular? | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
-Hello! -Hello. -I'm Digby. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
-Good morning to you. -And to you. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
-I've just been sampling one of yours. -And? | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
I thought... Oh, it's fine. The water's great. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
No, no, no. It all worked really well. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
Digby wants to know if Pam can make freezers | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
and if she can sell freezers. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
But first, he wants a feel for how she runs her existing business. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
-Oh, you can smell the manufacturing. -Yes, I love it. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
-It's making things. -Yeah, making things, seeing things happen. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
The spine of any factory is its production line. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
It's crucial Digby thinks this is in good order. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
So, the products that we currently make, we make them all here. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
All of the dehumidifiers | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
and all of the water coolers all come down this production track. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
Pretty much, in my view, everybody that works in this factory | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
is here to serve this production line. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
So, they're here to make sure the materials are here on time, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
and their responsibility is to make sure | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
that one comes off the end - the line doesn't stop. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
The factory makes 100,000 units a year, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
selling in 43 overseas markets, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
but does that expertise translate to making chest freezers? | 0:10:02 | 0:10:07 | |
-Right. So, this is the... -Engineering workshop. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
This is where we'll test things out, try different products. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
-Right. -These are the products that we already make | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
and probably the key thing with these is that they work in the same way. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:28 | |
There's the compressor. We've got the same set-up in here. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
Slightly different type of compressor. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
And so this is dehumidifier? | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
These are dehumidifiers, with their outers taken off. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
-This is a water cooler... -This is a water cooler. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
..with a compressor again. We move on to the chest freezers. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
So, we've got one here. That's exactly the same. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
One of the key things with a chest freezer, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
that most people probably won't realise, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
-is we don't put cold into a chest freezer. We take heat out... -Yeah. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:58 | |
..until it gets really, really cold and freezes things. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
So, you just keep taking the temperature out. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
So, the concept is much the same as what we've been doing down there. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
Exactly the same as those. So, that technology is right up our street. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
But in business, understanding the technology is just the start. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:15 | |
If Pam's new freezer factory is to compete with powerful, established | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
overseas operations, it's important her plant is as good as it can be. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:25 | |
Here we go. We're off to the... | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
-Yes, let's go look at... -The new factory. -..what we've started. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
Ebac has invested nearly £3 million | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
just to get the site operational, which is money going out | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
of the business before any coming in. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
-So, this is it? -Yes, this is it. -Looks like a set off The Sweeney. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:55 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:11:55 | 0:11:56 | |
-Wow! This is pretty big! -Yes. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
Hello, hello, hello... | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
-So, you've taken a lease of the whole lot. -Yeah. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
So, your vision is that this will eventually become freezer kingdom. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:13 | |
Yes. Yeah. Fridges and freezers. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
Until there's money being earned from freezers, | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
the company has to find £3,000 a day to cover running costs | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
including rent and wages. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
What is your time frame for having your first freezer out of that door? | 0:12:28 | 0:12:35 | |
First freezer out of that door, that could be in four weeks' time, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
four to six weeks' time, we're able to hit the button | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
and start making chest freezers. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
A poor factory layout will affect future profits. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
And with the clock ticking to launch, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
Digby wants to meet the staff in charge of setting up. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
-John. -How are you? -Thanks for giving me some time. Digby Jones. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
-And Jeff's here. -There you are, Jeff. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
So, you're the guy who's been pushing all this, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
-making sure it all is in the right layout. -Yeah. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
And you're the one who's going to get the freezers out the door. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
Hopefully, yes. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
What's the big, big challenge that you're having a problem with? | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
The biggest one is probably to get it up and running. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:25 | |
With a six-week deadline looming, Digby's already sensing problems. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
How you lay it out at the start is one of the key movers | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
to getting productivity out of your facility. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
You get more efficiency. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
You two right now are making an investment of your talent | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
and your time, the rewards of which will be reaped | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
in five, ten years' time. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
Digby's worry about the production line ties into his next concern - | 0:13:51 | 0:13:56 | |
selling the freezers. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
Considering Britain imports nearly £2 billion-worth | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
of white goods a year, how does Pam plan to get a share in a market | 0:14:02 | 0:14:07 | |
dominated by powerful foreign companies? | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
-Jo, yeah? -Yes, it is. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:15 | |
Product manager Joanne Vipond needs to have some answers. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:20 | |
-You're moving into freezers. -Mm-hm. -Everybody makes freezers. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
They do indeed. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
Big, big companies, multinational businesses make freezers. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
How is, with respect, little Ebac going to take those people on | 0:14:31 | 0:14:36 | |
in getting their product to market? | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
One of the biggest things we're spending most of our time on | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
is creating a brand website for Norfrost | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
and really getting out there the brand name, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
telling them all about Norfrost, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
who they are, how we're going to now take this and move it forward. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
And presumably at some point, you're going to have to work out | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
who's your normal customer. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
-Yeah. -Male, female, what age. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
Market research for that. Get some surveys out there as well. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
-What economic bracket and all of that. -Yeah. -Will you be doing that? | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
-Yeah, we'll have to. -When? | 0:15:11 | 0:15:12 | |
I would say it's going to be within the year. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
-Um... -But how do you know that you're pitching that website | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
at the ideal customer if you don't know who your ideal customer is? | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
-We don't. -Right. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
-So, what are you going to do about it? -Do the research. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
Some challenges. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:37 | |
I don't think they're on the marketing piece enough. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
I really want them to major on that. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
I am concerned about the fact that | 0:15:43 | 0:15:44 | |
they don't know what sort of person's | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
going to buy a chest freezer. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:48 | |
A lot of work to be done there and quickly. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
They've set themselves a very, very tight time schedule | 0:15:51 | 0:15:56 | |
to get all the stuff down from Scotland, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
get it well installed, get the first one out. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
Tough call, but on the other hand, they are a class act. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
Digby's revolution starts here. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
But he has to work quickly. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
With just six weeks to get freezers in shops for Christmas, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
the marketing strategy needs sharpening | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
and Pam's team needs a masterclass in production-line efficiency. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
We've come to one of the great places | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
of modern championing British manufacturing. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
This is the most productive car plant in Europe | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
and one of the top two or three in the world. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
525,000 cars come out of here every year - | 0:17:04 | 0:17:10 | |
one every 37 seconds. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
80% of them are exported away from our shores. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
You think of the overseas currency that's earning for our nation. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
That's what is so special about Britain | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
as a home for inward investment and a home for generating wealth. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
British manufacturing needs firms like Ebac to adopt the most | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
competitive production methods. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
Today, Pam's got a chance to learn from a world leader. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
Absolutely massive plant... | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
but one day, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
perhaps, we'll have something this size - an appliance city, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
just like we've got a car city here. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
Well, good morning. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
Digby wants Pam to learn new production methods for her factory. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:02 | |
Every robot and every worker in this factory is constantly | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
monitored to ensure they work to maximum efficiency. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
The key is, it's the staff themselves who do it. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
It's a little-known Japanese technique called kaizen. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
One of the secrets to the way in which these cars | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
are so productively made has been kaizen, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
the Japanese philosophy of constant, continuous improvement | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
in what you do, and I'm particularly impressed with this seat. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:52 | |
Because they had this idea, didn't they? | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
We came up with the idea to improve things for the operator, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
because we're getting injuries, | 0:18:58 | 0:18:59 | |
discomfort through the way that they did the job previously. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
So, by putting these seat shuttles in, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
the operator can now get inside the car, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
his parts, his tools and everything goes in with him, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
so it increases efficiency, as well as... | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
-DRILLING DROWNS SPEECH -It kills two birds with one stone. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
And are the guys themselves involved in...? | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
Very much, yeah. They're building 500 cars a day. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
They know best where things should be, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
what's the best way for them to have it. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
Kaizen empowers workers to instigate improvements | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
to their production line. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
It seems everybody here gets involved and I keep asking, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
"Do they do this? Do they do that?" | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
You're not forcing people to be involved | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
but, actually, they want to be involved. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
It's improving their lot. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
But if we look at it at a higher level, this is a business making | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
cars to sell in a competitive environment, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
and we maintain our job security by being competitive. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
So, what can small British businesses | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
learn from multinational corporations? | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
The great destroyers of productivity is a human being having to walk | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
around, and if he's walking over there with something in his hand, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
he's going to walk back empty-handed, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
so that's waste - wasted time, wasted effort. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
So, what you do is you cut a second, just work on cutting a second | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
out of how long it takes somebody to do something, because you ask them | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
to do it in a different way or go a different route, or don't go | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
at all, because something else is going to happen. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
You multiply that second by a business as big as this, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
we are talking millions of pounds a year of saved money. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
Thank you, Richard. I'm sure I'll be in touch. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
Thank you, Pamela. All the best. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
-Bye-bye. -Bye-bye. -Well done. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:48 | |
'Amazing, actually, seeing something like that.' | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
What I keep linking is... | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
Half a million cars - in three years' time, we could be making | 0:20:54 | 0:20:59 | |
half a million appliances. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
-And that is kind of like a bit, "whoa". -Scary. Scary. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
-It's exciting. It's not scary. -Exciting. -It's exciting. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
I want two or three killer conclusions from today | 0:21:09 | 0:21:15 | |
that what gets measured gets done, so what have you learnt, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
and what are you going to do differently? | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
Before Pam's project can even try to apply the principles of kaizen, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:36 | |
her team have to ship 1,000 tonnes of production kit | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
and 6,000 existing freezers over 400 miles | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
from the site near John o'Groats to County Durham. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:49 | |
Do you know what he's dropping off, Darren? | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
As Pam's team prepare the factory floor... | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
-All right? -..back in Scotland, former Norfrost workers | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
are stripping their old factory to its bare bones. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
It's... It's sad to see it sitting in the state it is, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
because everything just seems to have gone downhill really fast. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
Buried inside the story of Norfrost's rise and fall | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
is a cautionary tale for British companies hoping to compete | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
in today's white goods sector. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
In its '80s heyday, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
Norfrost epitomised white goods manufacturing in Britain. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:47 | |
Its success was based on a simple formula - | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
quality goods at affordable prices. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
At its peak, it made 12,000 units a week | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
and had Coca-Cola and Mars as customers. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
You have the advertisement for the Coca-Cola freezers that they used to | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
make for the Olympics. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
It was a big contract to have - an Olympic freezer, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
to go out and to bring Norfrost into the limelight. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
But across the white goods sector, foreign brands, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
either made here or imported, came to dominate the market, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
with names including Beko from Turkey and Indesit from Italy | 0:23:22 | 0:23:27 | |
leading the way. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:28 | |
When white goods retailer Comet went into administration in 2012, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:35 | |
Norfrost soon followed. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
Like many British companies, Pam runs a business that can't | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
compete on price with cheaper imports. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
So, she has to think of a new unique selling point, or USP, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:50 | |
to create consumer demand. This will encourage | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
her customers - the retailers - to stock her product. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
Digby believes the answer lies in knowing what consumers want. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:02 | |
The problem is, Pam doesn't agree. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
Fundamentally, because we've always said | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
that we're going to take what Norfrost did | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
and pick that up and replicate it, we haven't paid much attention | 0:24:10 | 0:24:16 | |
to the market research, the quite specific, detailed market research | 0:24:16 | 0:24:22 | |
of what consumers want. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
Rightly or wrongly, we've taken that what Norfrost were doing was right, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:30 | |
because they were selling tens of thousands of chest freezers. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
But Pam's marketing strategy is based on Norfrost's, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
and Digby's insisting Pam and Jo need new consumer research | 0:24:40 | 0:24:45 | |
to create fresh demand for the freezers. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
With just five weeks to the launch, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
he's returning to see if they've done it. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
-Now, last time, I gave you a challenge, didn't I? -You did. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
-All right. -We've looked down the avenue of market research, consumer | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
market research, and I think, you know, we hadn't done that | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
for a particular reason, and we hadn't done it. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
And we may do it in the future, but we already know, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:20 | |
at this present time, who we're going to sell to. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
How do you know that? | 0:25:22 | 0:25:23 | |
Because it's a current Norfrost brand customer. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
There is already a market out there, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
and we just literally want to take that market back. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
Jo and Pam are confident consumers already exist | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
and will return to the brand when the freezers launch. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
But if Pam doesn't don't know what consumers want, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
how can she be sure they'll buy her freezers? | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
The whole issue of this was... | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
You say they're a Norfrost customer - | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
fine, but what do they look like? | 0:25:52 | 0:25:53 | |
And I think right now... | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
I don't think that's necessarily important to us. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
So, how do you go to market if you don't know that? | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
Because we know what they value. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
Things... People love to shout about what they like about the product, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
and if you read a review, people tend to say, "It does exactly | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
"what you need it to do - it's a freezer, and that's what we wanted." | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
We're reasonably satisfied that there are Norfrost people | 0:26:12 | 0:26:18 | |
out there, people who want to buy Norfrost chest freezers. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
What I'm asking you is, prove it to me. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
Prove it to me. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:25 | |
Will Pam come clean and tell Digby she thinks he's wrong? | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
The one thing that really was clear to me when you were here last time | 0:26:31 | 0:26:36 | |
was that we've kind of taken our focus off how we are going to sell, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
and we talked about different ways to achieve that, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
and then we said, "Right, what will we do differently | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
"once we've got that information?" | 0:26:45 | 0:26:46 | |
And in terms of taking this product to market, we said, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
"Actually, probably nothing." | 0:26:49 | 0:26:50 | |
Economic reality is staring Pam in the face. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:57 | |
There's five weeks to launch. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
Established brands dominate the market. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
And she doesn't have a retail stockist yet. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
Is her current plan fast-tracking her to failure? | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
Earlier, Digby sent the team to learn about kaizen - | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
a Japanese system that empowers workers to initiate improvements | 0:27:19 | 0:27:24 | |
to their production line. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
Well, good morning, good morning. This is a little bit different... | 0:27:26 | 0:27:31 | |
Now he wants to see if they've decided to implement | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
what they learnt. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
This is a couple of press tools that actually form the lids. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:41 | |
Jeff's showing Digby a press that will make freezer lids. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
This is what we call the hinge plate. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
It goes into here and is made on this press here. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
These two presses were in a press shop | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
which was 100 yards away from the main lines, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
and then they transported the parts... | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
So, you've brought this from Scotland, and this action - | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
-dum, dum, to there - was 100 yards in Scotland. -100 yards, yeah. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:06 | |
In Nissan, it would have been 3ft, wouldn't it? | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
-And because this is brand-new for us... -Brand-new layout, yeah. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
-..you can design it to take cost out of the business. -Exactly. -Exactly. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
Digby's involvement in the production line set-up | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
is paying dividends. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
But with just three weeks to the launch, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
up at the old factory near John o'Groats, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
there's an unexpected problem. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:33 | |
METALLIC CLATTERING | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
While dismantling a crucial piece of kit, asbestos has been found, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
and until it's safely removed, the kit can't leave the site. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:47 | |
The kit Pam needs is called foaming equipment. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
It's made up of three parts - | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
huge tunnels that hold freezers in place, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:05 | |
these industrial guns that fire insulating foam into the freezers, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:11 | |
and tanks that store the chemicals mixed to make the foam. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
It's the foaming process that keeps freezers cold, | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
and without this kit, Pam can't make freezers. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
The freezer launch is now hanging by a thread. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
Jeff, so where are we at with the foaming tunnels? | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
-Up in Scotland? -The asbestos will be removed on the 7th of December... | 0:29:34 | 0:29:39 | |
Pam's sister, manufacturing director Amanda, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
is heading a meeting to plan the next move. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
And that's going to us a week to take that out? | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
Two weeks. Two weeks to take it down, and maybe a week to get | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
down here, so probably no longer than three weeks. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
Not only are the foamers quarantined, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
the team don't know if the foam-mixing tanks actually work. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
If we get these down, Amanda, and it fails, | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
then we're looking for a new one as backup, aren't we? | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
Well, that's another problem that we've got, isn't it? | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
The team has to choose between buying new kit | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
or gambling on the old kit working when it arrives. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
Either way, there's a three-month wait. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
The Christmas launch is off. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
So, who's going to tell Pam? | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
I'll get her drunk first. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:29 | |
So, what date is it now? | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
-It's... -Production start? | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
Well, we've said 18 weeks from now. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
-Right. -It's disappointing, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
but I think it does give us a better control, but we are where we are. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
Right. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
Good stuff. I need a date. I want to put it up on the board. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
The mission to create 200 jobs in the region by reviving a dormant | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
brand is on hold until the new kit arrives. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
The sisters are taking stock before Digby's next visit. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
I think that our whole project planning was naive | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
right from the beginning. On hindsight, there was no way | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
we were going to be able to move, physically, | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
all of the manufacturing plant in the time that we had. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
Probably didn't give too much thought at that stage on, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
how are we going to pull this whole thing off? | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
For one thing, we hadn't actually seen the equipment. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:40 | |
We'd seen some photographs of it and we'd seen some specifications. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
Digby's driving north to advise Pam on the next move. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
I hope he doesn't ask me too many challenging questions. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
A couple of weeks ago, Pam said to me that in eight weeks' time, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:09 | |
she would have this all ready to rock'n'roll. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
I've now heard that they've got big issues with their foam-mixing plant. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:16 | |
So, there's a few things I want to know. Firstly, how did this happen? | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
I mean, did they get up to Scotland and did they look at this plant, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
properly inspect it, have it surveyed, see if it's fit for purpose? | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
Every day this is delayed, that's more money lost for ever. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
We can't have that. I'm going to find out why. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
It's taken Pam's team nine months after agreeing the deal | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
to check if the kit they bought works. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
Why has this basic error occurred? | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
How much did you pay for this business? | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
All in all, just over a million. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
So, you're going to part with a million quid... | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
Including the stock. There's a... | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
Right. So, how much would you apportion for these machines? | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
-About a quarter of it. -Right. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:00 | |
So, you're going to pay a quarter of a million pounds for some gear | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
that you're not certain is going to survive the journey | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
-in an operational way? -Yeah. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:08 | |
And you didn't bother to go and find out if someone could tell you | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
whether it would or not? | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
No. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
Hand. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:19 | |
Dear me! | 0:33:21 | 0:33:22 | |
DIGBY STUTTERS | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
Digby's blaming production, but is that right? | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
Was it a resource issue? | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
Were you so busy that you didn't think of it? | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
-Well, I did think about it, but... -Did you scream it from the rooftops? | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
No, I didn't. Probably should have. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
I probably should have made my thoughts more sort of louder... | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
Does Jeff's admission point to communication issues | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
caused by the company's family structure? | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
Do you think there's anybody here | 0:33:49 | 0:33:50 | |
who thinks, "I'm just going to leave it to her?" | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
Erm.. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
-No. -Sure? | 0:33:56 | 0:33:57 | |
-No, I... -Cos the one issue, especially with family owners... | 0:33:59 | 0:34:04 | |
How do you enable an environment in which they know | 0:34:04 | 0:34:09 | |
they can't leave it to you? | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
I'd like to think that we do have that kind of environment. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
Whether this could have come out sooner if we had had | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
more of an environment, but I think it's... | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
-I think that's where I'm taking you. -Yeah. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
-Could this issue have been, ding-dong, alarm... -Yeah. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
Weeks earlier, if you had an environment where people | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
felt more empowered to do so? | 0:34:29 | 0:34:30 | |
I think people are empowered and do it with a passion | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
-and do it with a drive. -Challenge you? -Erm...yes. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
-Yeah, definitely challenge me. -Tell you you're wrong? | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
Yeah. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:41 | |
-Which obviously isn't very often. -Oh, quite! | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
Is Pam willing to reform Ebac's family structure to help expansion? | 0:34:46 | 0:34:50 | |
One of the challenges of family businesses is, | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
how do you accommodate growth? | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
Because it can't all be managed by the family, | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
and at some point, you have to have | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
very senior positions brought in from outside. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
Big answer today was they fessed up, they faced up, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:12 | |
they analysed it, and they're dealing with it. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
I think they need to get some more people and quite quickly, | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
but good people, and they've now got to really deliver. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
Big stuff in there for the next few weeks. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
Digby's first appraisal of Pam's project was that she had to focus | 0:35:26 | 0:35:31 | |
on marketing the freezers | 0:35:31 | 0:35:32 | |
and building an efficient production line. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
Now he's discovered a deeper issue the company must address | 0:35:36 | 0:35:40 | |
as it expands. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:41 | |
It's a problem many family companies face - | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
how to nurture a professional team | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
within a pre-existing family hierarchy. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
He's sent Pam and sister Amanda to Bolton, Lancashire, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
the home town of family bakers Warburtons, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
to get ideas on giving non-family members real power in the company. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:11 | |
We can smell the bread already, so my tummy's rumbling anyway. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
One family has run this company for five generations. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
-Hello, Dad. -Why don't you just say...? | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
Since current boss Jonathan took over from his father in 1991, | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
it's been his signature on every loaf. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
Like Pam and Amanda, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:43 | |
he grew up living in his family's business. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
I've been coming in here for 50 years. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
My sister and I used to have judo lessons in the flour room. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
I don't think health and safety would let us do that now. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
Like Pam and Amanda, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
his passion for his product pushes him to innovate. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
You'll see it has four different pieces, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
and then it goes through a series of cutters, | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
which turns, basically, one and three, and two and four... | 0:37:13 | 0:37:18 | |
around against each other, and that affects the mouth feel and the eat. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
Unlike Pam and Amanda, he knows a business secret | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
that has helped his company grow into a household name. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
-Yes, thanks, Jonathan. -Very welcome. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
That was really interesting to see that. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
It's now up to the sisters to listen to his frank advice. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
One of the things you have to remember is that this business, | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
on a day-to-day basis, is run by professionals. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
It's too big a business for us to do it and, quite frankly, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
we've had 30 years at it, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:53 | |
and we've got an excellent of team senior managers. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
And how was that process? | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
Because as you grow, your structure has to change. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
We know that we have to make some changes | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
to that middle management and senior management structure, | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
and it's kind of hard to let go. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
It is, but if I could give you one little piece of advice, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
is surround yourself with people who are better than you. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
-Just don't tell them. -Yeah! | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
My dad was never a great advice-giver, | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
but that's one of the things he said - | 0:38:22 | 0:38:23 | |
make sure you surround yourself with people who are better. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
Now, to run an organisation like this, that's a big ship to steer, | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
and so there's got to be a captain, there's got to be somebody in charge. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:36 | |
Yeah, I mean, I think that you have to have... | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
Inevitably, a business our size, you have to at some stage realise | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
that you are just a small cog in it. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
-Yes. -And you have to let the quality people run the business | 0:38:45 | 0:38:50 | |
on a day-to-day basis, and it's a bit back to my point, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
you know - they know who owns the business. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
You can afford to employ people who are better than you, | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
because they're not going to do you out of a job, | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
and in which case, common sense says, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
well, why wouldn't I seek the very best? | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
The biggest tip for me from Jonathan was when he said about | 0:39:09 | 0:39:14 | |
recruiting people who are better than you. You kind of think, | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
"That can't be right," but actually, it makes complete sense. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
We can't do it with the structure that we have, so we've got to | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
bring in new talent and make sure that we get the best from them, | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
and bring in the best of the best. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
Will Pam and Amanda take the advice and hire, | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
and then give non-family members | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
the power to make meaningful decisions in the company? | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
With the freezer launch on hold until the new kit arrives, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
Digby's trying to turn the delay to Pam's advantage. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
So far, Pam's remained steadfast. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
She doesn't need new consumer research to sell freezers. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
Digby's making a final attempt to change her mind. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
We're in trendy Clerkenwell. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
This is where creative types come to work. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
In there is one of Britain's greatest brand experts, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:23 | |
a woman called Rita Clifton. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:24 | |
Rita has worked on brand campaigns for Yorkie, | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
British Airways and Andrex. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
Digby's hoping her expertise will show Pam | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
it's not advisable to market a product | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
without knowing your consumer. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
This is quite a clash of cultures, really, | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
because we've got London, the Southeast, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
we've got this new trendiness, if you like, | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
and then we've got hard-nosed, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
quality, common sense Northeast grit. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
-Well, good morning, good morning. -Good morning. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
To make them think about what consumers want, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
they've been asked to pitch | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
why they'd buy Norfrost freezers over the competition. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
-Rita. Meet Pam. -Hello. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
-Hello, Rita. -Meet Jo. -Nice to meet you. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
Digby's putting Pam's DIY marketing strategy | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
under the microscope of an industry pro. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
And Rita's already done her homework on the company. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:26 | |
Their marketing maybe isn't as sophisticated | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
as many other competitors. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
That hasn't necessarily been a problem | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
in the markets they've been in so far, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
but obviously they're entering markets | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
that are much more sophisticated, much more competitive. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
So, this is going to be a challenge for them in how they up their game. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:46 | |
So, ladies, the floor is yours. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
So, Norfrost brand values. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
We've got a small, little mood board here | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
just to go through these values slightly with you. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
Good value. It's good quality, | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
it's a product that is made well and is made to last. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
It's essentially British manufacturing at its best. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
Reliability. You've got to have a product you can depend on. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:11 | |
Pam and Jo have pitched quality and reliability | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
as values consumers want in a freezer. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
What's the professional's verdict? | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
You had a list of brand values there. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
-They are a bit generic. -Yep, they are. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
So, value for money, reliability. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
I don't know whether there's a consumer anxiety out there going, | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
"Oh, dear, it's going to break down." | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
I don't know if that's ever surfaced, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
so I think doing your consumer research | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
will be really, really important there. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
In one observation, Rita's exposed how poor consumer research | 0:42:44 | 0:42:49 | |
could lead Pam to incorrectly position her product | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
in one of the most competitive markets in the UK. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
What solutions can Rita offer? | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
If we think about the important characteristics of any strong brand, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
number one is clarity, clarity of what you stand for, | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
and how you're different from your competitors. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
If you can capture something about this brand | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
in a few words or phrases... | 0:43:12 | 0:43:13 | |
How do you make a chest freezer distinct? | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
Well, I'm not sure what the answer is yet, | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
but I'm damn sure you've got to really try to do that, | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
because you need a clear message about | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
how your brand is somehow different and better. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
Secondly, in this new digital age, | 0:43:26 | 0:43:27 | |
even if don't have a big marketing budget, | 0:43:27 | 0:43:30 | |
if you've got really powerful, passionate fans... | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
-You can do a lot with it. -..you can do an awful lot with it. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:35 | |
-Social media is made for you. -It could well be. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
'I was half hoping for a magic wand and a secret answer | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
'that gets you where you want to be with the brand.' | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
I do pick up the point that perhaps we're a little generic | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
-and we've got to be a little bit more specific. -Same as everybody, aren't they? | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
I would take away from this that we need to go away | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
and do a huge brainstorming session, of the ways we can make... | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
It's a boring product, and Rita touched on that quite a lot, | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
but go away and think of the quirky things | 0:44:05 | 0:44:09 | |
that we could possibly do with this. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:11 | |
They're doing this on gut instinct. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
Because they've been so good with dehumidifiers | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
and water coolers, they actually think they can do it again. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:20 | |
Now, maybe I'm going to be proved wrong, | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
but I think they should be going to market with more hard data, | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
so that Rita's advice on brand can link in | 0:44:26 | 0:44:31 | |
to some hard consumer data, more than gut instinct. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
Pam isn't doing the research | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
because she thinks her brand already has loyal consumers. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
Even if she's right, if there are no freezers in shops, | 0:44:45 | 0:44:49 | |
those consumers will look elsewhere. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
So, they must start making freezers as soon as possible. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
Now there's renewed hope. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:01 | |
The asbestos has been safely dealt with | 0:45:01 | 0:45:03 | |
and the foaming kit has finally arrived. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
-These are foamers? -These are the foamers, yeah. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
-The infamous! -The infamous foamers, yeah. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:12 | |
Today, Digby's back to push for a new launch date. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
At some point, given that these have been a bit of a source of delay, | 0:45:16 | 0:45:20 | |
I'm going to come back here | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
and see a freezer coming down the old track, am I? | 0:45:23 | 0:45:27 | |
-Hopefully. -Hello?! | 0:45:27 | 0:45:29 | |
Can I hear words like "yes"?! | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
Well, the plan tells us that we should be ready | 0:45:32 | 0:45:36 | |
to do some hundred-litre by March. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
-Back end of March. -That is six weeks from now. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
I am going to come back on the March of 31st, on the day, | 0:45:43 | 0:45:46 | |
to see a freezer coming down the line, | 0:45:46 | 0:45:49 | |
-and you two guys are saying, yeah, that's on. Are you? -Yeah. Yeah. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:54 | |
Well, good luck, chaps. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:56 | |
We're going to need it! THEY LAUGH | 0:45:56 | 0:45:58 | |
Now the freezer launch is imminent, | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
there's renewed pressure on Pam and Jo | 0:46:05 | 0:46:07 | |
to come up with that USP | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
that will create demand for Norfrost freezers. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
It's our family giving to your family. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
How can we help your family? | 0:46:15 | 0:46:17 | |
Inspired by Rita Clifton's advice to develop a stronger selling point | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
than reliability, Pam and Jo are planning cooking videos | 0:46:21 | 0:46:26 | |
that position their freezers as a family friend. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:29 | |
And Jo has clear ideas on getting this message out. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:33 | |
We've got to get social media working for us. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
We've got to get blogs going, we've got to get PR working with us. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
Because I think we could really use it, | 0:46:39 | 0:46:41 | |
and if we miss something, we could miss the whole boat with it. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:45 | |
All she has to do now is persuade Pam. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
Getting videos on social media is... | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
-They get the biggest clickthroughs. -Yeah. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:54 | |
You can have the recipe linked to the YouTube video. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
You can have the recipe on the Norfrost website... | 0:46:57 | 0:46:59 | |
Do people just look through YouTube for things to look at? | 0:46:59 | 0:47:02 | |
I mean, my kids do. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:04 | |
Yeah, I think there's a lot of people that tend to. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:07 | |
But what do they look for? | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
Having been advised to let others take the initiative, | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
will Pam trust Jo's internet expertise? | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
Is it maybe a good idea to just get the recipes onto the website, | 0:47:14 | 0:47:19 | |
you then start using social media to get those recipes out as well, | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
that then lifts our ranking anyway, because we're using social media | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
to get those out as well, and all that in turn | 0:47:25 | 0:47:29 | |
should generate us traffic, | 0:47:29 | 0:47:30 | |
-which should then generate us enquiries and sales. -OK. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
Sounds like a plan. Smashing. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:35 | |
It's a significant shift. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
At last, Pam is letting the expertise of others | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
benefit the company. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
When the foamers arrived, | 0:47:49 | 0:47:51 | |
John and Jeff told Digby freezers would be ready in six weeks. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:55 | |
The problem is, they don't yet know how the foaming guns work. | 0:47:55 | 0:48:00 | |
Another missed deadline will lose Ebac more consumers and more money. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:06 | |
So, Pam's sister Amanda has persuaded commercial fridge makers | 0:48:06 | 0:48:11 | |
Carter International to share freezer foaming secrets. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:15 | |
We've never used them before, we're learning as we go, | 0:48:15 | 0:48:18 | |
and it'll be nice to get some insights | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
from people who actually use it. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:22 | |
It may not be a household name, | 0:48:31 | 0:48:33 | |
but nearly all of us will have used a Carter product. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
And we'll probably do so again very soon. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:41 | |
When you pull food from a supermarket fridge or freezer, | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
the chances are it's been made by Carter. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:52 | |
Today, the team are hoping to have their questions | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
about foaming kits answered. | 0:48:56 | 0:48:58 | |
This is the brains of the operation. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:01 | |
You can't have an inexperienced operator on here, | 0:49:02 | 0:49:06 | |
purely because of the health and safety issues. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:09 | |
Not only are the chemicals hazardous, | 0:49:09 | 0:49:11 | |
they must be mixed at the point of injection, | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
and at an exact ratio. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:17 | |
The chemical reaction is only when it's fired. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
That's the only time it mixes. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:22 | |
The only time it can touch is right at the end of the nozzle. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
If the mixture is wrong, | 0:49:28 | 0:49:30 | |
the foam won't do its job and freezers won't stay cold. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:34 | |
You want it clean, you want it sharp, | 0:49:36 | 0:49:38 | |
you don't want an overspill. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
Cos every time you overshot or you overspill, it's costing you money. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:44 | |
This is a huge step forward for the team. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:48 | |
They've found the missing piece to the jigsaw. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:51 | |
It's so critical that these are well-maintained. It's so obvious, | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
I know, but it's things that tend to be missed, | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
because it's out of the way. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
-If this goes down, you stop production, don't you? -Exactly. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
It's up to the kit to arrive and for these two to make sure | 0:50:04 | 0:50:06 | |
they do their jobs properly | 0:50:06 | 0:50:08 | |
putting the procedures and the controls in place. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:10 | |
So, with everything in order, | 0:50:15 | 0:50:17 | |
it's up to Pam and her team to be ready for the deadline. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
Over six months, Digby has shown Ebac how it must evolve | 0:50:27 | 0:50:30 | |
when attempting its risky diversification into white goods. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:34 | |
There are lessons for all British manufacturers. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:38 | |
In the run-up to his final visit, | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
they've been trying to apply the difficult changes he's suggested. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:47 | |
They've tried overhauling the brand to stand out in a crowded market. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:54 | |
..cold water. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:55 | |
And they've tried setting up a production line | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
based on cutting-edge efficiency principles. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
Now it's results day. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:11 | |
So, are Ebac making freezers? | 0:51:13 | 0:51:17 | |
Well, where are my chest freezers, then? | 0:51:23 | 0:51:26 | |
-Where? Where? You promised me, did you not? -I did. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:31 | |
So, where are they? | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
OK, Digby, I could have had a chest freezer here, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
but it wouldn't have been one that we've made the whole thing for. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
I respect you for that, I respect you for that. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:41 | |
It's not good enough, though. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:42 | |
Listen, I'm... I'm with you on that one. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:46 | |
So, who in that process, since I was last here...? | 0:51:46 | 0:51:50 | |
Where is the blockage? | 0:51:50 | 0:51:52 | |
-There was a bad decision on how long it would take. -Yep. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:56 | |
And that's where? | 0:51:56 | 0:51:58 | |
See, I would always say that that falls to here. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
-Yeah. -That that's where the blame lies. -So would I. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:04 | |
You know, so... And not getting into the detail enough. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
Yeah. You're the boss, and that's where it lies, really. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:11 | |
Pam's admitted her big mistake. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:16 | |
There are no freezers yet | 0:52:18 | 0:52:19 | |
because she underestimated the timescale of setting up. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:23 | |
But she wasn't in this alone. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:25 | |
-Hello! -Hello. All right? -Good to see you. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
What have John and Jeff learnt? | 0:52:28 | 0:52:30 | |
You guys said to me | 0:52:30 | 0:52:32 | |
there'll be a chest freezer coming down there on the March of 31st. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:36 | |
-Yes, we did. -Yes, exactly. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:37 | |
But it ain't good enough, gentlemen. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:40 | |
So, what one thing could you have done that you haven't? | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
It would have been that we started planning the project | 0:52:43 | 0:52:47 | |
a little bit earlier, instead of halfway through. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
I also think it's the order | 0:52:50 | 0:52:52 | |
that we brought the equipment down from Scotland. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:54 | |
I think if we'd started with the foamers first, | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
we'd have realised we were probably going to have some problems. | 0:52:56 | 0:53:00 | |
Despite the lack of finished freezers, | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
the team have made huge progress. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
They've installed presses to turn metal into freezer cabinets, | 0:53:13 | 0:53:17 | |
and robots to do the intricate work of assembly, | 0:53:17 | 0:53:22 | |
all using the principles of efficiency they saw earlier. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:26 | |
This is the final assembly here. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:33 | |
So, when, last time, I saw those bits of kit that were... | 0:53:33 | 0:53:38 | |
-creating the cabinet. -Yes. -And then they were coming this way. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:41 | |
-Yes. -And then they go into the foamer. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
-Yeah. -Then they were going to come down here for final assembly. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
-That's exactly right. -And what you're telling me, | 0:53:45 | 0:53:48 | |
good thing, is you've planned this | 0:53:48 | 0:53:50 | |
so you're going to be doing all of that movement of it | 0:53:50 | 0:53:53 | |
-in a more compact space than was happening in John o'Groats. -Yes. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
Oh, totally more. We've got loads of this track left over. | 0:53:56 | 0:53:59 | |
-And fewer people. -And fewer people, yeah. -Yeah. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
-Keep your overheads down. -Yeah. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:03 | |
-Get more efficient, more productive. -Yeah. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
Now, if that takes a bit longer to get that planned well, | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
that's time well spent, I'm happy with that. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
But there's one more issue to resolve. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:20 | |
Has Pam been convinced by Digby's views on consumer research? | 0:54:20 | 0:54:24 | |
So, almost the first time I met you, | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
I was talking to you about what does your consumer look like | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
and I asked you, you know, are you going to do any research? | 0:54:32 | 0:54:36 | |
And you did seem a bit reluctant towards that. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:39 | |
It's probably fair to say that we thought we knew everything. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:43 | |
We thought we knew how we would take this to market and we thought | 0:54:43 | 0:54:47 | |
that our biggest mistake was that | 0:54:47 | 0:54:49 | |
probably the retailers would welcome us with open arms | 0:54:49 | 0:54:52 | |
and almost be... "We've been waiting for you." | 0:54:52 | 0:54:55 | |
-That kind of... -And that's not happened? -No. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
So, we've done some market research, we carried out some market research, | 0:54:58 | 0:55:03 | |
which led us to finding out | 0:55:03 | 0:55:06 | |
that a significant amount of people actually own a chest freezer, | 0:55:06 | 0:55:09 | |
which was great news for us. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:12 | |
It did solidify that we know people want these, | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
because people have already got them, | 0:55:14 | 0:55:16 | |
and it brought to us a little insight into the fact | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
that we'd missed a group of people. The allotment growers. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:21 | |
People who own allotments love chest freezers. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
Armed with consumer research, | 0:55:26 | 0:55:28 | |
they've applied Rita's branding advice to their product, | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
and put recipes online. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:33 | |
'So, I am the proud owner of a chest freezer business | 0:55:33 | 0:55:37 | |
'and a proud owner of a chest freezer.' | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
It's not really about selling the product, | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
it's about building that brand and giving it depth | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
and creating a chest freezing community. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:50 | |
Because it actually understands how, as families, | 0:55:50 | 0:55:54 | |
we'll get benefits from our chest freezers. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:57 | |
To get traffic to your website, you've got to get interest. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:03 | |
Not everybody searches for chest freezers every day. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:05 | |
-Is that right(?) -Believe it or not! | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
-There's a surprise(!) -Believe it or not, it's a fact. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
But people do search for recipes every single day. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
If this means we can funnel traffic to the website | 0:56:13 | 0:56:16 | |
that may then come back one day and want a freezer, | 0:56:16 | 0:56:20 | |
-they'll remember us because they've been to our site. -Sure. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
Because of these. It's a great way of just simple interaction. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:26 | |
But, actually, you stay in someone's memory. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:28 | |
That'll be a marvellous tool. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:29 | |
MAN: 'And there we have the meat done. And now for the veg.' | 0:56:29 | 0:56:32 | |
Six months ago, Pam assumed her track record of achievement | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
in a niche industry would bring success | 0:56:38 | 0:56:41 | |
in the white goods market. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:43 | |
How does she feel now? | 0:56:45 | 0:56:47 | |
We're moving into the whole diversification, | 0:56:47 | 0:56:49 | |
the whole growth thing. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:50 | |
-We're moving out of our comfort zone... -Yeah. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:52 | |
..of making something that we've made for years, we understand the market, | 0:56:52 | 0:56:56 | |
we understand how to make them, and we've had to learn | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
some very quick things here. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:00 | |
And, yes, about this particular project, but more than that, | 0:57:00 | 0:57:05 | |
about how as a business we need to develop and grow | 0:57:05 | 0:57:08 | |
and make sure that we're ready to do the next project | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
-and the next project. -Spot on! | 0:57:11 | 0:57:14 | |
I felt really disappointed when I pitched up here this afternoon, | 0:57:20 | 0:57:23 | |
and frankly... | 0:57:23 | 0:57:25 | |
well, I did tell them off, and they deserved it. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:28 | |
I always knew this was going to be a tough conversation with Digby | 0:57:28 | 0:57:31 | |
so, you know, that's kind of over and done with. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:34 | |
But mostly, I'm ready for the challenge. | 0:57:34 | 0:57:39 | |
The best way of getting people to change isn't to tell them, | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 | |
and it isn't to force them. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:44 | |
It's to get them to buy into it because they understand it, | 0:57:44 | 0:57:47 | |
because they've come to their own decision. | 0:57:47 | 0:57:49 | |
That's exactly what's happened here. | 0:57:49 | 0:57:51 | |
He's given me something that I think will have real longevity for me, | 0:57:52 | 0:57:57 | |
and to be honest, I think sometimes | 0:57:57 | 0:57:59 | |
I won't even realise that's where I got it from, | 0:57:59 | 0:58:01 | |
because I've just changed now | 0:58:01 | 0:58:02 | |
and I'm different and I look at things differently. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
So, I won't think, "Oh, Digby would have done this or said this," | 0:58:05 | 0:58:08 | |
I'll just do it differently. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:10 | |
I think the change will be sustainable and beneficial | 0:58:10 | 0:58:14 | |
because they have come to terms with it | 0:58:14 | 0:58:16 | |
and they have made the decision what to do. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:19 | |
I take my hat off to them. It's been a privilege to come here | 0:58:19 | 0:58:22 | |
and learn and understand. I hope I've helped them | 0:58:22 | 0:58:25 | |
and I wish them all the best in the world | 0:58:25 | 0:58:27 | |
and I thank them from the bottom of my heart. | 0:58:27 | 0:58:29 |