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Britain and the West are on the brink of financial and economic catastrophe. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:07 | |
The squeeze on real incomes is | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
possibly the worst since the Great Depression. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
I think people in the street have figured out the game's up. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
In this series I'm investigating | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
how we flunked the challenge of the relentless rise of China, | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
how we boosted our living standards by | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
borrowing lethal amounts, and why the party's over. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
You cannot go on living beyond your means for ever. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
How are we in Britain | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
going to pay our way in this challenging new world? | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
It's a whole change we have to go through in our society, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
in order to deal with globalisation. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
Change is painful, | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
will it lead to further unrest in Britain and the rest of Europe? | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
The big question will be asked, "Why?" | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
"Why is this happening?" | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
The kind of Armageddon scenario is that you have disintegration. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
In these dangerous times, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
can we cure our addiction to debt and build an economy | 0:00:56 | 0:01:01 | |
on more stable foundations? | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
NEWS REPORTS: Greek MPs will begin voting on a new round | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
of austerity measures against a backdrop of mass protests. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
It all comes back to Greece. The reason these banks are in trouble | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
is because they lent so much money to Greece. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
Public sector workers in Greece | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
have begun a 24 hour strike in protest | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
against spending cuts and tax rises. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
Violence has continued in the streets of Athens | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
while Greek MPs were voting to accept austerity measures. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
The protestors say they're not giving up the fight. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
I'm working as freelance engineer for different companies, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
but most of them don't have the money to pay you... | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
So you choose either to stay at your house and do nothing, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
or work and don't get paid. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
Nasos is on his way to work. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
But like thousands of his fellow countrymen, he's not getting paid. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:15 | |
It's what happens when a country goes bust. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
Nasos works in Perama docks, part of the port of Piraeus | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
just outside Athens, one of the largest in Europe. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
At its peak, thousands of men worked here | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
repairing and building ships. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
Today the port is a ghost town. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
This is the floating dock of Perama, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
there are two actually, one here and the other there, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:49 | |
and as you can see, we have the infrastructure, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
we are ready to go, but we don't have work here. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
If you come in the morning you will see | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
people waiting to get some job, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
although they know that there is no job here. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:09 | |
They have a big problem for survival. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
Nasos isn't a dock worker, he's a highly-skilled engineer | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
who helped design and build the world's first | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
floating, wind-powered, desalination plant. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
It makes drinking water from the sea, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
a huge potential boon for the Greek tourist industry. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
But funds have dried up. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
Greeks are furious about what has happened to their country. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:40 | |
He's had to sack 14 of his 16 team, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
and like many Greeks, his income has been slashed. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
The problem is if you're not working, and I'm working, I'm your friend, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
OK, we can manage somehow, I will lend you some money, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
but if nobody is working then it is a huge problem. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
Greece's lethal mistake was that its government borrowed more | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
than the entire value of what the country produces every year, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
to finance a bloated public sector. Fighting back is very hard, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:45 | |
because its private sector is small, inefficient and in mortal combat | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
with the far bigger and more productive companies of Germany. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:53 | |
The moment when the European Union started sending us a lot of money, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:58 | |
for example to modernise agriculture, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
well, we didn't modernise agriculture, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
just distributed the money among the peasants and the agriculturals, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:11 | |
and they spent it in buying Mercedes cars | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
or, er, beautiful apartments... | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
then we had the facility of borrowing at the very low tariff, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
so we borrowed a lot and had a very nice life. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:28 | |
But we did not produce enough | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
and that is the number one problem of Greece. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
Greece could be a precursor for things to come. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
So Greece was a weak link, of a much longer chain. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:42 | |
The problems of Greece as well as Portugal, Ireland, Italy and Spain | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
are threatening to tip the world economy back into recession. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:54 | |
Greece is a chilling example | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
of what happens when a country loses the support of its creditors. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
It faces many, many years of high unemployment, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
and crashing living standards. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
So what about Britain? What economic fate awaits us? | 0:06:06 | 0:06:11 | |
Britain, too, is buckling under the weight of its debts. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
Greece is the extreme version of the Western nightmare, which is... | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
you know, you've been living on the never-never for 30 years, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
you've been running up deficits. It can't go on. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
UK, like many other countries, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
many of the people were living beyond their means, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
that was the whole basis of debt. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
This wasn't a normal recession, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
it was a debt crisis. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
It was caused by too much borrowing... | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
by individuals, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
banks, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
businesses and most of all, by governments. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
It's a crisis which is happening in your town, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
your street, and maybe even your home. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
It's a crisis of the promises made over the last 30 years. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:15 | |
If you look at all debts, not just government debts, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
Britain has borrowed more than Greece. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
Adding together household, banking and business debts | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
we've borrowed almost five times the value | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
of everything we produce each year. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
It's a record and it's still rising, especially the Government debt. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:34 | |
For almost the last 30 years, but especially the last 10 years, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
we've been living beyond our means, spending much more than we earn, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
with economic growth fuelled by ever increasing borrowing. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
It's a habit we've got to cure, but there's no successful treatment, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:50 | |
unless we face up to our debt addiction. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
There are some who believe | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
that the true scale of Britain's indebtedness, is yet to be revealed. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
Terry Smith is head of one of the world's largest money brokers. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
He fears our heads are in the sand. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
How far do you think this denial about the scale of the debt burden | 0:08:06 | 0:08:11 | |
bearing down on the British economy goes? Do you think in Government, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
there is any recognition of what needs to be done? | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
I don't think there is much recognition. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
I engage with the people that you describe quite regularly, | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
people who are leaders of banks, erm...Government regulators, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
and I actually think that they've got less acceptance of the problem, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:33 | |
or the scale of the problem, than many of the people in the street. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
I think people in the street have figured out the game's up! | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
The Office Of Budget Responsibility, this forecasting body, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
they've taken a look and said, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
"Actually, because of the aging population | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
"and rising health care costs, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
"this level of public sector debt is going to grow pretty rapidly, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:56 | |
"to over 100% of GDP in the coming decades." | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
-How bad will it get for people? -Very bad indeed, I think, Robert, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
because the Government debt people think we're shouldering now, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
doesn't include a lot of off balance sheet items. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
The things they've promised in terms of the National Health Service, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
welfare and particularly pensions, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
probably take the known debt that people are up | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
by three or four times. I think it will get very bad for people. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
The Government has embarked on the toughest round | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
of expenditure cuts and tax rises for 60 years, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
with the opposition saying their speed and size is reckless, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
and undermining our recovery. Some are protesting, | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
and that's even before the cuts have bitten. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
I remember meeting a government minister shortly after | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
the first round of spending cuts was announced and there was | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
a deep sense of shock and anger and he said that the thing that | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
had worried him was the cuts hadn't even started yet. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
They hadn't even started filtering through and people were, | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
were in revolt and he said, well what's going to happen | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
when actually this becomes real? | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
It's been described as the new era of austerity | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
but do we know what that will mean? | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
Not much to be honest. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
I have no idea. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
Pulling in the old belt a bit | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
and so on and so forth, not for the first time. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
Make do and mend like I never have before really. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
Having to be sensible, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
which is quite difficult when you've never done it before. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
So is 21st Century austerity a journey back into our past? | 0:10:45 | 0:10:50 | |
It will be about wearing shabbier clothes, not having a new car. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:55 | |
Going on camping holidays rather than going abroad. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
And in case you're wondering why a dinghy needs a streamline trailer, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
we should explain it's a collapsible caravan, believe it or not! | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
Even a moron, mechanically speaking, can fix it up in just minutes. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:11 | |
Downgrading one's expectations | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
and one's lifestyle and most people will get through it. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
I mean we did in the 1930s, we will do again. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
Or it could be quite drastic over periods of time that we find | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
that things that we've taken for granted both as individuals | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
and as a society, are no longer strictly affordable. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
We thought we had it bad in the '70s and '80s, but today's | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
public spending cuts, low wages and inflation are squeezing | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
living standards more savagely than at any time since the 1930s. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
The squeeze on real incomes at the moment is by some measures the worst, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:51 | |
since the early 1980s and possibly the worst since the great depression. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
And in this economic crisis it's the young who pay the biggest price. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:01 | |
We're coming into the main supermarket. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
This is our seasonal aisle, so all the things ready for Christmas now. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:08 | |
These are the main tills. This is our fruit and veg department | 0:12:08 | 0:12:14 | |
so we keep this all filled up and looking nice...hopefully. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:19 | |
-Vanessa is 27. -Morning. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
She has a part time job at the local supermarket, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
working in the grocery section. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
It's my responsibility to get the orders in from the market | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
and pack everything up, price it, put it out here for sale, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
keep it looking tidy. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
It's better in the summer than it is in the winter, I have to say. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
She's been working here part time for two years, on minimum wage. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
It's not enough to get by, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
so she takes on as many other odd jobs as she can. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
I'm kinda of the go-to-girl. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:58 | |
I house sit for my parents' friends when they go on holiday. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
I do some dog walking, dog sitting, cat sitting, babysitting. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
But it doesn't really accumulate to any more than £400 a month. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
I can't put anything aside to save, I can't think about moving on, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
moving out, buying a place or even renting. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
It's not really what I dream of doing with the rest of my life. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:23 | |
And why should she? | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
She's a university graduate with a first in psychology. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
-Can I help at all? -Not really. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
She enjoys what she does, but it was supposed to temporary. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
Yeah, I was really hoping that after I'd worked really hard and got | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
a 1st class degree, that I wouldn't be stacking shelves and | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
stuck in a job that I'd been doing all the way through my studies. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:52 | |
It was supposed to be a stop gap job, it wasn't supposed to be | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
what you end up doing afterwards. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
I've spent four years studying | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
and I'm still working in retail jobs that I could have done straight from school | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
and it, you know, it just makes you think why have I got myself | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
into this much debt, why have I spent the last four years not really | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
earning so, you know, I can now do something that I was doing anyway? | 0:14:13 | 0:14:19 | |
When Vanessa finished her degree and couldn't find work, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
she did a post graduate course to improve her prospects, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
but it didn't work. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
I've applied for at least 30 jobs in the last three months. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
Probably 15 actual paid positions and between 15 and 20 internships. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
You lose count. You just fire off CV after CV after CV | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
to various agencies and quite often you don't even get a response | 0:14:45 | 0:14:50 | |
you know, not even a 'thanks, but no thanks', just absolutely nothing. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
The economy is failing young people. That's MY generation's fault. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:01 | |
We mortgaged our economy in a dangerous way, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
in the selfish short-term pursuit of higher living standards. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
So how do we put it right? For Vanessa and her generation? | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
The economic model that generated the longest | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
period of uninterrupted rapid growth in our history is bust. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
So how do we build a more robust economic model? | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
Well, perhaps we need to abandon our rampant consumerism, | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
to become less dependent on debt-fuelled consumer spending. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:37 | |
We have to learn that there's no such thing | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
as borrowing on the never-never. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
When our debts fall due for repayment we should repay them | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
rather than replacing them with even bigger debts. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
Our economy became far too dependent on consumer spending, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
which is equivalent to two thirds of everything we produce in Britain. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
I've never bought anything on higher purchase before, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
I've always paid cash. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:05 | |
We call it deferred terms, Mrs Turner. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
And where does HP go from here? | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
At the peak in 2008, UK households had borrowed more | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
than they ever had before. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
A sum equal to 180% of their disposable incomes, | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
that's the money we have to spend. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
And although some of the loans have been repaid, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
our personal debts remain dangerously large. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
Thrift and prudence and things which used to be quite important virtues, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
it's like it was chucked out the window and we've moved towards | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
a culture that embraces consumption, spending and to an extent, excess. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:50 | |
We are actually going to have to get used to not be able to borrow | 0:16:50 | 0:16:55 | |
any amount of money to buy any amount of old rubbish | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
we never needed in the first place. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
We've got to earn what we consume. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
we haven't done that in this country for an awful long time. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
But when we pay back our debts, we spend and consume less. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
And because consumer spending is so disproportionately important | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
to the economy, that's a problem as well as a necessity. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
Because if we reduce our spending too fast, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
the entire economy grinds to a halt. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
The great conundrum, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:24 | |
is getting away from a reliance upon consumer spending | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
and getting to something that we can actually export. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
We can't export consumerism. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
Quite a lot of growth, | 0:17:32 | 0:17:33 | |
not just in Britain but in other economies, is driven by consumption. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:38 | |
But consumption requires, well, spending by consumers, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
by households and it's hard to have spending if you're repaying debt. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
As its currently structured, the UK economy may have no prospect | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
of recovering to the kind of prosperity | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
people enjoyed in the last 20 years. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:54 | |
It will need a fundamental restructuring and rebalancing | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
away from those sectors which it is currently relying on. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
SHIP SOUNDS HORN | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
So what's the answer? | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
A clue can be found here in China. Unlike us, the Chinese produce | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
lots of the things the world wants to buy, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
and also unlike us, they save a huge proportion of the money they earn. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:25 | |
It's the flaw in globalisation - they make and save, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
we consume and borrow. What we need is a role reversal. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
This kind of shopping by the Chinese is something that we in the West need to see a lot more of, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:39 | |
because although Chinese consumers are spending | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
a bit more than they did, as a share of the economy, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
well, they spend about half as much as we do. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
If they could only be persuaded to save less and spend more, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
that'll provide opportunities for Western companies, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
and that'll help the US, the UK, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
much of the eurozone, get their excessive debts down. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
But as the Chinese start to consume more, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
that only helps us if we start making the stuff and selling the services | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
that the Chinese actually want to buy. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
It requires an overhaul of our economy, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
so that our businesses invest much more, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
and start exporting much, much more. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
We need to transform our economy | 0:19:20 | 0:19:21 | |
from one fuelled by borrowing and consumption | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
to one powered by investment and exports. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
So where can we turn for guidance on how to do it right? | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
MUSIC: "Ride of the Valkyries" by Wagner | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
-Germans coming here? -Just for a couple of days, Major. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
-I don't care much for Germans. -Well, I know what you mean, but... | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
Bunch of Krauts, that's what they are, all of 'em. Bad eggs! | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
Like the Major in Fawlty Towers, in popular culture and the media, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
we traditionally mocked and denigrated the Germans for their famous efficiency... | 0:19:54 | 0:19:59 | |
-Good morning! -..whilst celebrating our supposed superiority. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
MUSIC: "The Dam Busters" theme | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
We're not laughing now. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:12 | |
Next year, I am 40 years in the company. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
I am second generation. My father founded the company in 1919. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
This is my father. He was born in 1888, died in 1972. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:31 | |
That's Plant No.1. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
It was established in 1928. It was the first building my father built. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:41 | |
Nestling in the heart of Bavaria, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
Kathrein started as a one-man enterprise | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
in a cellar after the First World War. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
It's now a global operation, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
exporting antennae to China, the US and the rest of Europe. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
This is the Olympic Tower in Munich. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
The new antenna we delivered, we have to install it by helicopter. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
Every piece of this antenna is about five tonnes, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
and only the Russian helicopter Kamov can hold this five tonnes, | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
so it was, yes, an experience. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
We are the oldest antenna company worldwide. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
We are also the biggest one. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
The turnover this year will be EUR 1.4 billion. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
But Kathrein is not an isolated success story. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
It's part of a vitally important sector of the German economy, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
known as the Mittelstand. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
Mittelstand is a mindset. They are patient capitalists. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
You're not in there for the short term. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
You're in there for the long term. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
You run your company not in the interest of short-term shareholders, | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
but you want to create long-term wealth for your company. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
You work with your employees not in a way that you treat them as a disposable human resource, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:57 | |
but as a very valuable part of your company. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
You integrate yourself into the community you're working in. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
Mittelstand companies account for half of Germany's economy, and most of its exporters. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
They employ almost 80% of German workers. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
Most are family-owned, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
and many produce highly specialised, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
highly-engineered goods in hi-tech industries. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
Being the best at making an unglamorous but vital component or machine is typical. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:30 | |
They focus on a specific area they're really good at. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
Products you don't see usually as a consumer. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
They're products who go inside other products. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
Gut. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
'As Mittelstand, we have to focus.' | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
We are not a grocery shop. I cannot do everything. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
We are focusing since 92 years on our main business, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
and this is the antenna business. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
Gut. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:55 | |
Comparable British businesses are often listed on the stock market, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
and owned by shareholders that have little corporate loyalty, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
and tend to be interested in a quick buck. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
'The stock market looks mostly on very short profits.' | 0:23:05 | 0:23:10 | |
They want to maximise the profit. We don't maximise the profit. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
If we have a project and say, "OK, it takes five years," | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
then we invest in this project. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
One Mittelstand tradition is that businesses are very active in local communities. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:27 | |
They work closely with schools and universities in finding apprentices. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
Education is tailored for the needs of the Mittelstand. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
We have to invest in our brains. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
Because, as you know, Germany has no natural resources. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:43 | |
This we are doing here, and I'm very happy that a lot of our young people | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
are coming back into the company, and then stay as technicians, | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
as engineers, as members of the company. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
In two years, my son will come. He's third generation. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
He plans to make an MBA, and then he will come to the company. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
-And I'm waiting for him with a lot of work to do. -HE CHUCKLES | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
German attitudes to money spread beyond the companies of the Mittelstand. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
Most Germans don't borrow on credit cards, and have consistently saved more that 10% of their income, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:17 | |
while we periodically save nothing at all. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
This thrift has its roots in a painful shared memory | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
of when German credit was worthless. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
In 1923, we had this big hyper-inflation after World War One, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
and it's still, as silly as it may sound, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
a traumatising sentiment here. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
During the hyper-inflation crisis, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
the German exchange rate was one trillion marks to one dollar. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
The sheer volume of paper money handled by industry and commerce | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
had to be collected almost daily in handcarts, taxis, lorries. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:54 | |
Every day was payday, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
and wages were rushed to factories by the truckload. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
And the same accounts for after World War Two. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
Everything was reset, every German citizen got 40 marks, and could start from scratch. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:08 | |
So I think there's a relation, and this is the good German tradition, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
that you basically spend what you earn, and not more. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
This comes a little bit from this, you know, "Schaffe, schaffe, Hausle baue," yeah? | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
Just be serious and earn your money, put it well away, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
save for the kids, and so on and so forth. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
Germany is Europe's largest exporter of manufactured goods, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
and the second biggest in the world. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
Exports account for almost half of German national output. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:44 | |
Its companies make high quality, highly-priced goods, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
and importantly, many of the complex widgets inside them. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
Things that everyone wants and few others can replicate. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:56 | |
Even the Chinese. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
So can we, indeed, should we, turn German with a British Mittelstand? | 0:25:59 | 0:26:04 | |
Someone at the top of government seems to think so. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
We should all learn lessons from the successful Mittelstand model | 0:26:09 | 0:26:14 | |
which has operated in Germany for so many decades. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
The medium-sized companies | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
that are such a source of strength for that country. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
But it wasn't so long ago we thought we had it sussed. Britannia was supposedly cool. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
We were creative and smart, and our economic model was trouncing even Germany's. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
A third of our record-breaking growth was being generated | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
by our enormous banks and City of London firms. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
We derided the sclerotic German economy and its leaders, | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
who were so mistrustful of British and American finance. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
How foolish they were to make stuff you could hold, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
rather than complicated financial products | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
that no-one could understand! | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
If you look today on Germany, you feel like Germany's really fine, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
and wealthy and booming, and so on and so forth, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
but you remember, for the early parts of this decade, Germany was the sick man of Europe, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:03 | |
and everybody was complaining about Germany, and the missing economic engine in the middle of Europe. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:08 | |
We would slightly deride them here in Britain, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
and say, "oh, you know, old-fashioned Germans, | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
"think that bashing metal is still the route to wealth, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
"can't they realise that wealth is to be found | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
"in front of a computer screen?" | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
Today we're not so smug, and we'd dearly love a piece of the manufacturing action. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:28 | |
British business will hope to sign deals worth more than £1 billion | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
when the Chinese Prime Minister Wen Jiabao attends a summit in Downing Street today. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:36 | |
He'll sign an agreement with David Cameron, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
enabling British firms to branch out beyond Beijing and Shanghai... | 0:27:38 | 0:27:43 | |
A billion-pound deal with the Chinese looked great, | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
until we saw that the Chinese Prime Minister had gone on a plane, | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
flown to Germany, and signed a deal for £9 billion with the German Chancellor, Angela Merkel. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:54 | |
Germany ranks about sixth in terms of China's largest trading partners. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:59 | |
Well, Britain doesn't quite rank in the top 20. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
The main reason is that Germany sells the kinds of things | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
that China wants to buy, which is high technology, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
especially high-end capital goods. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
Britain has great brands. Look at the car brands. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
We're delivering, for example, the Rolls-Royce, we are proud of this. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
Ok, Rolls-Royce is BMW now, but, OK, so there are companies in Britain also with a very good reputation, | 0:28:20 | 0:28:26 | |
and I think there is a chance to re-establish a Mittelstand. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
We can work together. Our hands are open. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
In the aftermath of the financial crisis, | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
suddenly, that manufacturing-driven German model looks great. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:43 | |
Because the German economy is doing well, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
and it's doing well by exporting. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
And exporting is back in fashion. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
Exporting has become the centre of British foreign policy. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
Cameron is going around the world trying to sell Britain, to sell British goods. | 0:28:55 | 0:29:00 | |
It's an uphill climb for us, trying to emulate the German model of investing and exporting | 0:29:00 | 0:29:05 | |
that's ingrained in their culture. Where do we begin? | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
We don't have very many facts, true facts, in economics, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:15 | |
but one of the very few is that tomorrow's growth | 0:29:15 | 0:29:21 | |
always comes from today's small firms, OK? | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
So the big firms of tomorrow are today's small firms. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
That's as close as we get in economics to a fact of life. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:34 | |
And that means investing in that cohort if we are to deliver | 0:29:34 | 0:29:41 | |
on not just exports tomorrow, but growth tomorrow, | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
to facilitate this rebalancing process and paying down of debts. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:49 | |
Can we reinvent our distorted economy, so that more small firms | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
are nurtured to become the industrial giants of tomorrow? | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
We have a world-class business services sector, selling everything from advertising to architecture, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:08 | |
but that's only 14% of our GDP, and as for manufacturing, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:13 | |
well, that's even smaller, just 12% of the economy. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
Britain has great companies that design and make things, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
but, arguably, not enough of them. I've come to Malmesbury | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
to try and learn the secrets of success of one of them. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
We've got here a lot of the things we've made. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
This is our historical underground showcase here. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
-Is there anything you have to license in from others? -Absolutely nothing. -It's all yours. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:44 | |
It's all here, all developed here, everything. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
But there was a time when Dyson actually made its vacuum cleaners here. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
They churned out not only the ideas, but the finished item. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
Not any more. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
NEWS REPORT: This fearsome advocate of UK manufacturing | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
said at least some production will go to the Far East. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
Now, you used to make your stuff here, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
and then you took this decision that for the good of the business, | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
manufacturing had to be located offshore. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
-How difficult a decision was that? -Well, it was very difficult, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
and not least because we were making 500 people redundant, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
which is not a nice thing to do. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
What I've experienced over the last 30 years, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
I think is the exact experience we've had of British manufacturing leaving Britain. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
30 years ago, if I wanted components, I went to Birmingham, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
and there were several companies who made those components, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
so it was very easy to have a factory in Britain. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
By the time I was making the vacuum cleaner, | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
I had to buy all my components from five and ten thousand miles away. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
-So it became untenable. -Is there any turning back? | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
Can you conceive of any circumstances which would make commercial sense | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
-for you to manufacture in the UK again? -Well, how I would love that. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
What we need to do is encourage components suppliers. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
What happened, really, over the last 40 years, is we drove them out of business. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:06 | |
Is there anything that a government can do to encourage businesses | 0:32:06 | 0:32:11 | |
that are going to create wealth for the nation? | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
The really important thing, I think, is to concentrate on a sector, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
which is technology, the high technology sector, | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
because it creates jobs, it creates wealth by exports. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
And we shouldn't be frightened of spending money on this. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
So we should encourage people to stay at university, | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
and we should pay them the sort of salaries they'd get in the City. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
Because the work they're doing is extremely valuable for this country. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:38 | |
If the economy's going to recover, we need to do more high-value manufacturing. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
One of our most successful companies is Rolls-Royce, which sells aircraft engines around the world. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:54 | |
They don't only sell engines - they provide a complete backup service. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
An engine health monitoring unit collects data about the performance of every engine in flight, | 0:32:58 | 0:33:03 | |
and allows them to communicate with their customers in real time. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
This kind of operation is often called a manu-service, | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
and many see it as the future of manufacturing. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
But not every British company is so forward-looking. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
We're not at the races in Britain. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
We're being carved up in this new world, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
and in a world where three fifths of American manufacturing companies | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
now describe themselves as manu-service companies, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
you ask the same question to a sample of British manufacturing companies, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
and they wouldn't even know what the term meant. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
That's how far we are behind. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:34 | |
Vince Cable is the minister charged with trying to build up our exports. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
He tours the country trying to learn what's needed. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
But when will we again have the kind of strong economic growth | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
that we took for granted? | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
How long do you think it will take to reconstruct the British economy | 0:33:51 | 0:33:56 | |
so that we can have that kind of 3% growth on a sustainable basis? | 0:33:56 | 0:34:01 | |
Well, 3% growth on a sustainable basis is quite ambitious. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
You know, we're talking... | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
Most of that growth has got to come from innovation | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
and technological change, and achieving that | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
would be very substantial. It's not going to happen within months. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
-But years, we're talking years. -We're talking years. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
Five, ten years...? | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
There's no point artificially putting a deadline on it. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
But two things are happening at the same time. We're having to sort out the country's finances, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
and at the same time, we've got to do the investments in the technology, | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
the apprenticeships, the university training, to get the knowledge economy, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
so that this kind of change can take place, and it certainly isn't going to happen quickly. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:40 | |
There are millions and millions of people in other parts of the world | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
who are educating themselves to a very high standard, | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
who are ready to work harder, | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
and with whom we are not competing effectively. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
China's investing large amounts in their universities, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
and committed to having 10 global-class universities | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
within the next 10 years. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
Perhaps the most important battlefields in a globalised world are schools and universities, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:12 | |
where young people acquire the skills to create the wealth that they, and we, need. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:17 | |
China gets that. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
Massive investment in education is the next great leap forward in China's economic development. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:24 | |
Cheers. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:26 | |
Good health. What do we say in Chinese? | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
-Kan Bei. -Kan Bei. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
In Shanghai, I met 15-year-old Lin Lin and her mother, Rena, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
a manager in a lighting company. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
Rena is ambitious for her daughter. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
TRANSLATION: In China, we have an old saying - | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
"Don't let the child lose the race at the starting line." | 0:35:45 | 0:35:50 | |
Education is a long process. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
People say it takes a hundred years to educate a person. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
It's not something you can do in a day. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
I don't want my daughter to go through what I went through as a kid. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
I want my daughter to have an easier life than I had, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
and to have a bright future. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
That's why I want to give her a good education. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
Like millions of Chinese young people, | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
Lin Lin studies six days a week to secure herself a prosperous future. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:17 | |
These are the extra classes she takes outside of school time. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
TRANSLATION: On Saturday, I come here to get some extra studies in. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
It's a chance to get ahead and study stuff not taught at my school. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
It helps me to get to a higher level. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
It also allows me to get a head start on work | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
that I'm going to learn again at school. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
The first stage of China's phenomenal growth was based on cheap, unskilled labour. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:47 | |
Now, like us, it wants to win through brains, not brawn, | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
and like most of her classmates, Lin Lin is set on going to university. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:55 | |
China is pouring money into higher education, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
because bicycles, books, students... well, they're an economic weapon. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:03 | |
China is churning out enough students every year to fill a city the size of London. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:09 | |
It's a sign of the country's determination to challenge, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
not just in low-cost manufacturing, but also against us in other ways, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
including taking on our precious businesses based on knowledge, research and expertise. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:27 | |
Engineers, programmers - these are the highly skilled areas | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
where Britain and the West once had a monopoly. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
No longer. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:37 | |
We should be very worried, | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
because the Chinese produce half a million engineers every year | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
out of their universities, and we produce 21,000. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
So they're producing 20 times as many. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
There's quite a lot to be said about what economists can't measure, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
which is the extent to which there's a great deal of entrepreneurship, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
focus on education, there is a lot of that in China. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
You certainly see that in terms of Chinese graduates moving overseas - | 0:38:03 | 0:38:07 | |
they're very competitive, very disciplined. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
This is engineering. A lot of my time I spend here. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
Practically, on average, about five, six hours a day, pretty much. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:32 | |
The impressive Chinese work ethic | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
has been brought to the UK by students of Chinese origin, | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
who frequently outperform their indigenous rivals. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
Ben is in his second year at Warwick University, | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
one of the UK's leading engineering schools. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
I'm doing general engineering. This is a pipe flow lab. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
It's one of the labs we do in our module. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
I was born in China. I went to primary school there. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
The workloads are quite different. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
During primary school, I did a lot of practice on maths questions, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
and a lot of things, yeah, which wasn't... | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
..so evident over here in the UK sort of thing. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
If it's not changing, then it means there's an air bubble. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
We are measuring the pressure drop, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
the temperature and the flow rate of these two different pipes. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:22 | |
The drive of Chinese students is fuelled by their determined parents. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:27 | |
My parents, obviously, are more driven for me to succeed, | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
so they sort of drive, make sure they're... | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
Well, my mum used to make sure that I'd do a lot of work. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
Ben's mother brought him to Britain in 2003. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
She's a molecular biologist who now works at Oxford University. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
Bringing Ben here meant missing out | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
on great career opportunities for herself in China. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
I came here only for him, because I can have a very good job in China. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:57 | |
But because of him, I really just want to sacrifice everything, | 0:39:57 | 0:40:01 | |
and then focus on him and just for his success, | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
and for his achievement. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
His life is my life. This is in China. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:11 | |
Sometimes I really push him, | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
and go to his room and check what he's doing, and he wasn't so happy. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:19 | |
And he'd always say, "Why do you interrupt me all the time?" | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
But I really want to see if he's doing, you know... | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
He's not always playing on the computer or maybe doing other sorts of things. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:30 | |
-It gets annoying! -HE LAUGHS | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
It gets annoying sometimes. It really does. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
But I can see why she's doing it. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
Education is pretty much everything to Chinese parents. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
If you don't have, like, a really good education, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
it somehow links to becoming a failure in life. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:52 | |
And also, because there's so many people | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
and huge competition for university places. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
People concentrate a lot on just working hard. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
The acquisition of knowledge and skills | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
is perhaps the single biggest challenge we face here in the UK. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
In this globalised world, there are millions who are educating themselves to a high standard, | 0:41:09 | 0:41:15 | |
so our young people need to acquire even better skills and know-how | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
if we're to stand any chance of improving our living standards in the decades ahead. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
We should all help and encourage school students to make the most of what they can be, | 0:41:23 | 0:41:29 | |
for their sake, and the sake of our economy. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
All the best. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:34 | |
Where do we go? | 0:41:34 | 0:41:35 | |
-They're in there. They're all expectantly waiting. -OK. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
I'm Anthony, and at the moment, I'm studying business and drama. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
-My main interest in the future is to get a degree as an economist. -OK! | 0:41:42 | 0:41:47 | |
A lot of economics is up in the air at the moment | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
because of the great crisis we've been through. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
And that means, actually, that, you know, | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
when everything's up in the air, you can go back to first principles, | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
and all that basic thinking isn't about maths, it's about, | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
you know, it's almost philosophy. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:04 | |
It's easy to underestimate our young people. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
In my experience, they're determined and diligent. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
So why, when we need to encourage them to study, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
has the Government so greatly increased | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
the university fees they pay? | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
When I talk to young people, which I do quite a lot, they all say, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
"why should I go to university now that it's become so much more expensive?" | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
How would you persuade them to invest in themselves? | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
I think they first need to understand | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
that when they go to university, they don't pay out any money, | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
there are no upfront fees. They pay later in life, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
if they have a high income, in relation to their income. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
It is, in effect, an additional tax on their income | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
if they benefit from a university education. That's how it works. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
Intuitively, you must think that that's... | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
If... Since we're having a crisis about debt, | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
we're forcing students to take on debt. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
A lot of them will then go off and seek ways to immediately pay back the debt, | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
by doing the, kind of, lucrative but not particularly socially useful things. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
That must be a quite likely risk. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
The City of London. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
For graduates with big debts to repay, | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
or those who simply want to make a pile when they're young, | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
banks, hedge funds, finance - they're a seductive career path. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
For years, many of our brightest graduates, | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
especially scientists and mathematicians, | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
have ended up in financial engineering rather than | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
the nuts-and-bolts kind. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
The last 20 to 30 years, you've heard this enormous sucking noise | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
where the City of London has basically sucked in an enormous amount of talent. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
And that's partly because if you come out of university with a decent science degree, | 0:43:42 | 0:43:46 | |
you can earn a fortune in a hedge fund, | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
-and rather less working for Rolls-Royce. -That's right. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
And if you look at other countries which have been highly successful | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
at manufacturing and export, for example in Japan, | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
you can be somebody who's got an engineering degree, | 0:43:58 | 0:44:00 | |
and becomes the best designer of car door mirrors in the world, | 0:44:00 | 0:44:05 | |
and be revered for that. Whereas here, you'd be regarded | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
as a schmuck because you didn't go into the City or a hedge fund. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:11 | |
I wish they wouldn't keep pinching scientists and engineers | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 | |
who'd be much happier in industry, making real things. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
It's partly, also, thinking at an individual level | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
about people investing their careers in things like engineering, | 0:44:21 | 0:44:25 | |
which, of course, don't produce the kind of short-term return to your education | 0:44:25 | 0:44:29 | |
that you'd get if you went into a City bank, for example, | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
but represent long-term careers for young people. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
A bulging financial sector doesn't just suck in your best minds, | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
it inflates the currency. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
And during the boom, a strong pound hurt manufacturers | 0:44:42 | 0:44:46 | |
by making British products that were sold overseas very expensive. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:50 | |
So does the City of London's international success | 0:44:50 | 0:44:53 | |
hobble the other vital parts of the economy? | 0:44:53 | 0:44:58 | |
This business, Tullett Prebon, in the heart of the City of London, is world class, | 0:44:58 | 0:45:02 | |
one of the two biggest brokers of its kind in the world. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:06 | |
On this floor alone, some 400 billion of transactions | 0:45:06 | 0:45:11 | |
is executed every single day. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:14 | |
So the question that's posed by the success of the City of London is, | 0:45:14 | 0:45:18 | |
has financial services become simply too big for the health of the British economy? | 0:45:18 | 0:45:23 | |
Is it possible to reconstruct the British economy in a positive way | 0:45:26 | 0:45:30 | |
-without shrinking the City? -Um... Probably not. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:35 | |
I think the City, if you put it in perspective, | 0:45:35 | 0:45:38 | |
if the City were the same size to the British economy that Wall Street is to the American economy, | 0:45:38 | 0:45:44 | |
which is the other largest financial centre in the world, it would be about one sixth of the current size. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:49 | |
And so I think it's pretty unlikely that you can get the remainder of the economy | 0:45:49 | 0:45:53 | |
in any foreseeable timescale that we could rely on, | 0:45:53 | 0:45:57 | |
to grow at such a rate that it rebalances the economy away from the City. | 0:45:57 | 0:46:02 | |
The City is a major contributor to tax income, | 0:46:02 | 0:46:06 | |
to government income in this country. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
It's a major source of the funding for schools, | 0:46:09 | 0:46:11 | |
hospitals, for the Welfare State. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
So I think we should protect it and nurture it, | 0:46:13 | 0:46:15 | |
we should make sure it's properly regulated and controlled. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:19 | |
Most of our problems in the UK were centred on the banking sector, | 0:46:19 | 0:46:23 | |
which, frankly, did grow | 0:46:23 | 0:46:25 | |
disproportionately large for the UK economy, | 0:46:25 | 0:46:28 | |
balance sheets four times our GDP, one of the largest in the world, | 0:46:28 | 0:46:32 | |
-and that was a problem. -So to be clear, your view would be, | 0:46:32 | 0:46:35 | |
banks became too big, but the City didn't become too big. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:38 | |
I think that's a fair summary. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
Yes, it's those banks again. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:45 | |
Vital to any economy, and massive in Britain, | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
in the boom years they became bloated | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
by all that reckless lending. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
If we hadn't rescued our big banks after the 2008 crash, | 0:46:53 | 0:46:56 | |
the economy would have been paralysed, | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
and the consequential losses would have bankrupted us. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:02 | |
Never again. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:04 | |
I think the banks really acted | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
pretty disgracefully over a period of time. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:10 | |
They are a powerful transmission mechanism for this to happen. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:14 | |
And the banks themselves borrowed a lot in order to lend to people, | 0:47:14 | 0:47:19 | |
so they were a very, very powerful mechanism for these unpleasant events to arise. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:24 | |
Have you had to revisit in a personal sense | 0:47:24 | 0:47:28 | |
how much good or bad you and your mates here do? | 0:47:28 | 0:47:32 | |
Yes, Robert, I have. Not at this moment, because it's been | 0:47:32 | 0:47:36 | |
striking me for quite some time before the crisis struck | 0:47:36 | 0:47:40 | |
that there was increasingly limited utility | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
or social usefulness to an awful lot of what went on. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:46 | |
And, yeah, it's reasonably convincing now | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
that some significant portion of the activity | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
is, at the very best, not contributing to social good, society, | 0:47:51 | 0:47:57 | |
wealth in the real sense of the word, not just additional cash, but... | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
And, in fact, at worst, it might be quite a lot worse than that. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:05 | |
What banks do, in theory, should have enormous social utility. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:09 | |
How do we get finance back to a place | 0:48:09 | 0:48:14 | |
where it is plainly serving the public interest? | 0:48:14 | 0:48:18 | |
Banking should be boring. Banking should be about taking deposits | 0:48:18 | 0:48:22 | |
from people who've got excess cash, | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
and lending it to people who want to borrow. | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
Gosh, remember when banking was calm and dull? | 0:48:28 | 0:48:31 | |
What's all this, then? Shakespeare's birthplace? | 0:48:31 | 0:48:35 | |
No, this is a bank, too. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:38 | |
Banks need to get back to their vital social and economic function | 0:48:38 | 0:48:43 | |
of turning our savings into the loans that businesses need for investment, | 0:48:43 | 0:48:47 | |
and that individuals need, to pay for a home, for example. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:51 | |
Money. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:54 | |
It keeps flowing round lie the circulation of the blood. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:58 | |
And the banks keep it flowing. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:00 | |
What's in it for the bankers themselves? | 0:49:00 | 0:49:02 | |
Well, they might turn from pariahs | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
into respected pillars of our communities again. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:08 | |
Opening time. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:10 | |
And here's the first customer, Mr Baker. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
The village butcher, oddly enough. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
-Morning, Jack. -Hello, Vera. -Lovely day. -Beautiful, ain't it? Beautiful. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
-Morning, son. -Been busy? | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
You've got to pay in before you can draw out. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:27 | |
-True. -Very true. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
I think it's essential for banks | 0:49:30 | 0:49:32 | |
to get back to what they should be doing, | 0:49:32 | 0:49:36 | |
providing credit, especially to small and medium-sized enterprises, | 0:49:36 | 0:49:40 | |
for two reasons. If the lending function isn't restored, | 0:49:40 | 0:49:44 | |
the strength of the economy won't be restored. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
And secondly, if these banks are too big to fail, | 0:49:47 | 0:49:51 | |
if they continue to engage in this risky activity, | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
knowing that they're too big to fail, knowing that the Government will bail them out, | 0:49:54 | 0:49:59 | |
we're going to have another crisis of the kind that we've seen already. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:03 | |
The banking system is being reformed, | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
though some would say not radically enough. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
Such is the influence of the City, | 0:50:15 | 0:50:17 | |
don't expect any of our leaders to demand | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
that the financial sector should be shrunk. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
As for the notorious bonus culture, | 0:50:23 | 0:50:25 | |
it's not quite as rapacious as it was, but it's still there. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:30 | |
If we're going to rebuild our economy on firmer, | 0:50:33 | 0:50:36 | |
sounder foundations, we're all going to have to make sacrifices. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:40 | |
But are we really all in this together? | 0:50:40 | 0:50:42 | |
Most people are enduring a really sharp squeeze | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
in their living standards, but the bankers, | 0:50:45 | 0:50:47 | |
who many blame for getting us into this mess, | 0:50:47 | 0:50:49 | |
well, they're still expecting big bonuses | 0:50:49 | 0:50:52 | |
and those who run our biggest companies, | 0:50:52 | 0:50:54 | |
they're enjoying an increase in their rewards of around 50%, | 0:50:54 | 0:50:58 | |
on top of the millions they already earn. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
Given the scale of the taxpayer bailout of banks | 0:51:01 | 0:51:05 | |
and the role that banks played in causing this mess we're in, | 0:51:05 | 0:51:09 | |
do you think it would have been sensible for big banks to, | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
in general, declare quite a long moratorium on bonuses? | 0:51:12 | 0:51:16 | |
I can understand the moral position on that, | 0:51:18 | 0:51:22 | |
I think, completely. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
I can actually understand it to a large extent | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
in relation to business drivers. If banks aren't performing well, | 0:51:28 | 0:51:32 | |
then, why would you pay people still large amounts of money? | 0:51:32 | 0:51:36 | |
The rock that it breaks on from my point of view is the pragmatic one | 0:51:36 | 0:51:41 | |
which is we need to employ people in a dynamic and competitive market | 0:51:41 | 0:51:45 | |
and we struggle to find ways that we can continue to employ people | 0:51:45 | 0:51:49 | |
if we're not paying what the rest of the market is. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:53 | |
It's a trap, frankly, that everybody's in | 0:51:53 | 0:51:56 | |
because a lot of people would say what I say is that, objectively, | 0:51:56 | 0:52:00 | |
a lot of this doesn't make much sense, | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
but it is where the market takes it. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
As for the job market experienced by Vanessa, | 0:52:06 | 0:52:09 | |
well, it couldn't be more different. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
These top executives don't even have an idea of what it's like | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
for someone sort of average. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
I'm probably middle class, if you had to define it, | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
but, you know, my parents can't afford to support me indefinitely | 0:52:20 | 0:52:25 | |
and, you know, I don't want to be supported. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:29 | |
I want to be able to be an independent adult | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
and I don't think that these top executives | 0:52:32 | 0:52:35 | |
have any idea what it's like to live on sort of £25,000 a year. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:39 | |
The big question will be asked - why? | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
Why is this happening? Is it fair that it's happening? | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
Is it legitimate that, actually, I'm in these circumstances | 0:52:44 | 0:52:49 | |
where the people who actually caused the crisis are, in many respects, | 0:52:49 | 0:52:53 | |
living high on the hog or suffered nothing? | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
That, I think, is going to be... | 0:52:56 | 0:52:57 | |
There's going to be big political kickback on this. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
CROWD CHANT: We got sold out! | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
What's your own view of the Occupy Wall Street | 0:53:05 | 0:53:09 | |
and related popular campaigns around the world | 0:53:09 | 0:53:12 | |
to criticise banks and the financial sector? | 0:53:12 | 0:53:16 | |
I'm actually slightly surprised it's taken so long, really. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:20 | |
The financial crisis and the failure of banks and so on | 0:53:20 | 0:53:25 | |
has been going on for three years | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
and most people think it's going to go on for a bit longer. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
No, I absolutely feel the sense of outrage about what happened in the banking sector. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:36 | |
I think it is absolutely disgraceful that British banks, | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
for the first time in 300 years of British banking, | 0:53:39 | 0:53:43 | |
needed massive taxpayer bailouts. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
And with our economy so weak, this sense of injustice, | 0:53:47 | 0:53:51 | |
that those who caused the mess haven't been properly punished, | 0:53:51 | 0:53:55 | |
is growing. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:57 | |
The boom years won't return any time soon. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
As we repay our public and private debts, | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
there's less money available for spending | 0:54:02 | 0:54:04 | |
and that makes it really hard for the economy to grow. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:07 | |
But there's another huge threat looming over us | 0:54:07 | 0:54:11 | |
which could snuff out even what little growth we manage to achieve. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:16 | |
It's almost two years since Europe's debt crisis first erupted. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:24 | |
What started out as worries | 0:54:24 | 0:54:25 | |
over the Greek government's ability to repay its massive debts | 0:54:25 | 0:54:29 | |
has spread like a virus throughout the eurozone. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:34 | |
I was in Athens, talking to people and one of the Greeks said to me, | 0:54:34 | 0:54:37 | |
"There's something very wrong with the world economy | 0:54:37 | 0:54:40 | |
"if the collapse of a couple of Greek banks | 0:54:40 | 0:54:42 | |
"could cause another global financial crisis". | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
And maybe he's right. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
Maybe we are now so interconnected | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
to a sense that it's really got dangerously out of control. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
The kind of Armageddon scenario is you have sort of disintegration. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:57 | |
I think that's unlikely. The more likely negative scenario | 0:54:57 | 0:55:01 | |
is that, you know, one or two countries peel off | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
because they can't cope. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
You'll get the gradual fall in sort of confidence | 0:55:06 | 0:55:09 | |
and endless attempts to kick the can down the road | 0:55:09 | 0:55:12 | |
and not really succeeding - a very negative effect on growth. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:16 | |
But I mean, I'm optimistic that the political leaders of Europe | 0:55:16 | 0:55:20 | |
who, in the past, have always risen to the challenges we've had, I think they will again. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:25 | |
The world is, once again, on the brink of financial disaster. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:29 | |
This time, the most imminent danger is the break-up of the Euro. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:32 | |
At their umpteenth emergency summit, | 0:55:32 | 0:55:34 | |
eurozone leaders said the future of the euro was safe. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:38 | |
But someone forgot to tell the financial markets. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
The eurozone crisis is weighing heavily on the world economy. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:56 | |
Next year's crunch time. | 0:55:56 | 0:55:57 | |
That's when the huge debts taken out by banks | 0:55:57 | 0:56:00 | |
and governments in the boom years come up for repayment. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:03 | |
Now, if any of them fail to pay what they owe, | 0:56:03 | 0:56:05 | |
the ensuing losses could lead to a devastating banking crisis | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
and even the possible break-up of the eurozone. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:12 | |
That's why the Treasury and Bank of England | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
are working on emergency procedures for a possible financial Armageddon. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:19 | |
Will the eurozone survive? | 0:56:19 | 0:56:21 | |
Er, no. Not as it's currently constituted. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
Greece will certainly default and leave the eurozone. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
I think one of the many, many problems with the eurozone is, | 0:56:27 | 0:56:31 | |
to quote a great aphorism - he who defends everything defends nothing | 0:56:31 | 0:56:34 | |
and it's possible that the German-French axis, that is really Germany, | 0:56:34 | 0:56:38 | |
will spend so much of themselves defending the indefensible | 0:56:38 | 0:56:41 | |
in keeping Greece in that they won't have the fire power | 0:56:41 | 0:56:44 | |
to defend what they should be defending which is probably Italy. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:49 | |
If the eurozone avoids collapse, | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
the challenge faced by Britain is big but not insuperable. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
We're not insolvent like Greece. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
Nor are we like Italy with a government living in daily fear | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
that no-one will lend to it. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:06 | |
We're still a very rich country, whose people's incomes | 0:57:06 | 0:57:10 | |
are still almost ten times those of most Chinese. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:14 | |
The most likely scenario is that we'll end up | 0:57:17 | 0:57:19 | |
with many years of low growth, a bit like what happened in Japan. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:24 | |
Who knows what the average rate of growth will be over the next decade, | 0:57:25 | 0:57:29 | |
but, you know, it might be nearer to one per cent. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:32 | |
-Is that really such a disaster? -One per cent isn't so bad. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:37 | |
It means we're still... It means we're still growing. | 0:57:37 | 0:57:40 | |
People point sometimes to the Japanese experience in the 1990s | 0:57:40 | 0:57:46 | |
as having been shocking how terrible it was | 0:57:46 | 0:57:49 | |
that growth in Japan flatlined for, | 0:57:49 | 0:57:53 | |
you know, the better part of a decade. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:55 | |
But if you look at the Japanese population, | 0:57:55 | 0:57:58 | |
they weren't unhappy with their lot. They were perfectly content. | 0:57:58 | 0:58:02 | |
What we didn't have was a huge boom | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
but nor did we have...were we going through a huge bust. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:09 | |
The best we can hope for may be many years of one per cent growth, | 0:58:13 | 0:58:18 | |
versus the three per cent a year we enjoyed | 0:58:18 | 0:58:20 | |
during the 16 years before the crash. | 0:58:20 | 0:58:23 | |
Living within our means, paying our way in the world | 0:58:23 | 0:58:25 | |
will force us to relearn the virtues of deferring gratification. | 0:58:25 | 0:58:30 | |
Politics will no longer be about sharing out an ever-growing cake, | 0:58:30 | 0:58:34 | |
but will be about allocating scarce resources to the public services | 0:58:34 | 0:58:39 | |
that really matter to us. The presumption of the boom years - | 0:58:39 | 0:58:43 | |
that we could have it all, well, that's gone. | 0:58:43 | 0:58:46 | |
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