Browse content similar to Iran's Nuclear Deal. Check below for episodes and series from the same categories and more!
Line | From | To | |
---|---|---|---|
The president was very clear. This had to be a good agreement. No | :00:00. | :00:16. | |
agreement was better than a bad agreement. | :00:17. | :00:21. | |
These negotiations were essentially about curbing Iran's nuclear | :00:22. | :00:30. | |
programme. In return for suspension and then later on lifting of | :00:31. | :00:32. | |
international sanctions against Iran. I think it certainly made | :00:33. | :00:40. | |
doing business much more difficult to have social media everywhere. | :00:41. | :00:46. | |
Those times of eating together and breaking bed together are always | :00:47. | :00:52. | |
useful in building the relationships you need when you are in the midst | :00:53. | :00:55. | |
of such a tough, tough negotiation -- breaking red. I ask everyone to | :00:56. | :01:05. | |
put their iPhone in the fridge. I think from the outset, most people | :01:06. | :02:10. | |
were rather sceptical. And thought the chances to get a deal where | :02:11. | :02:16. | |
below 50% because everything came together, enormous technical | :02:17. | :02:24. | |
difficulties, complicated technical questions, and on the other hand, | :02:25. | :02:28. | |
the political framework, which was also extremely difficult. We had to | :02:29. | :02:33. | |
deal with two challenges, a technical challenge and a political | :02:34. | :02:42. | |
challenge. It is about centrifuges, stabilising, and quickly, you need | :02:43. | :02:48. | |
people who are experts. I'm not an expert. I became a little more | :02:49. | :02:50. | |
knowledgeable. In all of the negotiations, it is | :02:51. | :03:08. | |
not only a negotiation with the run, but within your own government -- | :03:09. | :03:13. | |
Iran. It is negotiating with each of the partners sitting at the table, | :03:14. | :03:18. | |
and then with the permanent members of the Security Council plus Germany | :03:19. | :03:21. | |
and the EU have to come to an agreement and then an agreement with | :03:22. | :03:27. | |
Iran. When talks were going on like that, it was ever just a good | :03:28. | :03:29. | |
nightmare for everyone. Journalists included. -- logistical. Every time | :03:30. | :03:35. | |
there was an extension or they mist a deadline. Can you say a few words? | :03:36. | :03:43. | |
Hello, Scott. As soon as our live broadcast was over, we would all | :03:44. | :03:48. | |
rush to the hotel reception, extending our rooms or booking new | :03:49. | :03:52. | |
ones for the next round -- missed a deadline. Good luck. | :03:53. | :04:41. | |
I don't think any of us knew how this process would evolve, but over | :04:42. | :04:48. | |
the two years, the number of people of course grew, that were directly | :04:49. | :04:54. | |
involved in the process, because we had to expand the team according to | :04:55. | :04:58. | |
the needs. But it is also part of our daily bread in terms of the | :04:59. | :05:06. | |
policies and offices Switzerland has provided for the past 150 years, so | :05:07. | :05:11. | |
it is also in edgings. Each time a minister arrived in Geneva, the | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
chief of protocol in Geneva and myself were at the airport greeting | :05:16. | :05:21. | |
the Minister, and our minister always welcomed him with a personal | :05:22. | :05:28. | |
letter and some Swiss chocolate. Obviously when you start to welcome | :05:29. | :05:33. | |
these dignitaries, and the amount of security and the amount of cars that | :05:34. | :05:38. | |
arrived when I was standing in front of the hotel, for some minute you | :05:39. | :05:41. | |
feel like you are looking at a Hollywood movie and being part of | :05:42. | :05:51. | |
it. It all started at the beginning around 17 rooms, bearing in mind | :05:52. | :05:56. | |
that a hotel has 168 rooms. At the end of the talks, the hotel was | :05:57. | :06:04. | |
fully booked. This was the working room, the heart of operations, but | :06:05. | :06:09. | |
also my personal room, because one person had to stay all of the time, | :06:10. | :06:16. | |
24 hours, in this hotel. We kept only one room. I had to transform | :06:17. | :06:21. | |
this room and the working room into the heart of operations. There were | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
about ten persons in this room for the meetings, but also my team came | :06:26. | :06:30. | |
for the day, and they worked day and night in this room. It was a | :06:31. | :06:37. | |
relatively small room for a relatively big group of people, with | :06:38. | :06:42. | |
many computer screens on the table, pizza boxes everywhere. At the end | :06:43. | :06:49. | |
of the day, it felt more like a student's home than a luxury hotel. | :06:50. | :07:33. | |
We weren't surprised at all Wii with the target of intelligence agencies. | :07:34. | :07:39. | |
We used to joke the number of bugs in a room would cancel each other | :07:40. | :07:42. | |
out. Everybody wants to learn about the other side's table before they | :07:43. | :07:47. | |
enter a game, as well as countries interested in the outcome of the | :07:48. | :07:51. | |
process. We knew about the sensitivity of the negotiations, for | :07:52. | :07:56. | |
example, when I had my meetings with my own team, which we had every | :07:57. | :08:00. | |
morning, I asked everyone to put their iPhone in the fridge. | :08:01. | :08:04. | |
Allegations were made, and these allegations are investigated by our | :08:05. | :08:11. | |
federal prosecutor office. And this investigation is still ongoing, so I | :08:12. | :08:13. | |
cannot talk here on the detail. I think it certainly made doing | :08:14. | :08:44. | |
business much more difficult to have social media everywhere, and to have | :08:45. | :08:47. | |
our every movement recounted on Twitter. My wife was always | :08:48. | :08:54. | |
e-mailing me to ask why I was eating pizza on a random Friday night and | :08:55. | :09:02. | |
not getting on a plane home. In Lausanne, the talks were dragging on | :09:03. | :09:06. | |
and on, so once when a European diplomat was coming back to the | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
hotel, I him and said for heavens sake, please told me how many more | :09:12. | :09:18. | |
days you think we might be here --I grabbed him. He came back with a bag | :09:19. | :09:21. | |
People ask whether I got to know the Iranians. We all got to know the | :09:22. | :10:15. | |
Iranians. And whether we started to really understand each other. I have | :10:16. | :10:19. | |
no doubt we understand each other better. You can't spend that many | :10:20. | :10:25. | |
hours with each other and not. We certainly got to know each other's | :10:26. | :10:30. | |
lives. We both became grandparents during this time. And so we shared | :10:31. | :10:36. | |
videos of our grandchildren. That did not change how tough we were | :10:37. | :10:42. | |
with each other in the negotiations, because he had a responsibility to | :10:43. | :10:46. | |
the national interest of his country, and I had a responsibility | :10:47. | :10:48. | |
to the national interest of my country. | :10:49. | :10:54. | |
I got a tipoff from a source that meet the Iranians Foreign Minister | :10:55. | :10:59. | |
had arranged the US counterpart to go and dying in this Persian and | :11:00. | :11:05. | |
strong, experienced Iranians food -- dying. I rushed to that restaurant | :11:06. | :11:11. | |
and sneaked into the place, and guess who I saw? The top brass of US | :11:12. | :11:20. | |
negotiating team in that restaurant dining and eating Persian food. | :11:21. | :11:27. | |
We had the full delegation, John Kerry, we had a phone call saying | :11:28. | :11:33. | |
they were coming to our place, we receive them and they had dinner | :11:34. | :11:34. | |
here. He was leaving. I asked him the | :11:35. | :11:44. | |
population of Iran, they are waiting for this negotiation, I hope you | :11:45. | :11:47. | |
will get success from this negotiation. He told me did you say | :11:48. | :11:54. | |
this to Mr Zarif? I said I didn't, I'm telling it to you. So he said I | :11:55. | :12:00. | |
will call him and tell him what you told me. | :12:01. | :12:02. | |
There were two Mac dining rooms, one for the P5 plus one and the European | :12:03. | :12:09. | |
Union, one for the Iranians, that was in part because our dining room | :12:10. | :12:14. | |
had alcohol. And the Persian dining room did not. But as the talks went | :12:15. | :12:19. | |
on, our Minister Zarif invited several of us to dine with the | :12:20. | :12:24. | |
Iranians team, which was a very good thing to do, and the food was | :12:25. | :12:27. | |
fantastic! And those times of eating together, | :12:28. | :12:33. | |
breaking bread together, always are useful in building the relationships | :12:34. | :12:38. | |
you need when you're in the mixed of such a tough, tough negotiation. | :12:39. | :12:47. | |
In Lausanne, the talks broke for a few days because the Iranians | :12:48. | :12:55. | |
President's mother passed away. The president's brother was a key member | :12:56. | :13:00. | |
of the Iranians negotiating team all throughout the negotiations. On the | :13:01. | :13:06. | |
morning of that day, the US team went to the Iranians counterparts, | :13:07. | :13:11. | |
headed by John Kerry, to consult the president's brother. | :13:12. | :13:46. | |
March, 2015 was a turning point because it was now or never. It took | :13:47. | :13:54. | |
place in Lausanne. We had the framework agreement. But I think | :13:55. | :14:03. | |
Lausanne, where the agreement was in a way crystallised, framed, and then | :14:04. | :14:07. | |
negotiations and the endgame... It was step-by-step. | :14:08. | :14:13. | |
I think what was the hardest part of Lausanne were those last two days | :14:14. | :14:18. | |
when we were trying to drive to a conclusion, no one had any sleep. We | :14:19. | :14:24. | |
thought we might not get there. We thought we were close so we all | :14:25. | :14:29. | |
agreed to stay one more day. And indeed we then got to the parameters | :14:30. | :14:35. | |
that became the basis for the final 27 days in Vienna. | :14:36. | :14:43. | |
I will never forget the moment where the EU told me that they need to | :14:44. | :14:55. | |
organise and go ahead with the press conference. We were waiting for 72 | :14:56. | :15:02. | |
hours for this moment. It was a very emotional moment behind the curtain. | :15:03. | :15:08. | |
And then came the moment when they asked me to open the curtain. | :15:09. | :15:22. | |
Today we have taken a decisive step, we have reached solutions on keeper | :15:23. | :15:30. | |
amateurs of a joint comprehensive plan of action. | :15:31. | :15:36. | |
We will make progress, we have made progress and we will make progress. | :15:37. | :16:37. | |
Progress was made on the way forward. We believe we have made | :16:38. | :16:42. | |
progress. We had to make substantial further progress. -- hope to. | :16:43. | :17:09. | |
When Federico Motta in Ewa was chairing a round with the ministers | :17:10. | :17:15. | |
in Vienna during the endgame, when she had a heated argument with the | :17:16. | :17:20. | |
UN Foreign Minister and he said, never threaten an Iranian and the | :17:21. | :17:24. | |
Russian Foreign Minister came in, nor a Russian! Then things calmed | :17:25. | :17:28. | |
down very easily, but we had similar kinds of exchanges. -- Federica | :17:29. | :17:34. | |
Mogherini. We also had walkouts when I stood up and said I'm not going to | :17:35. | :17:39. | |
continue for the day, but then we resumed early the next day. Allows | :17:40. | :17:43. | |
Arif, are you going to have a deal? Are you going to have a deal? We | :17:44. | :17:49. | |
have made progress today. Progress is being made. We are making | :17:50. | :17:54. | |
progress, we need to make more progress. | :17:55. | :18:20. | |
In Vienna, the talks were dragging on and on. They had to write the | :18:21. | :18:28. | |
text of the final deal. And it was proving to be far more difficult | :18:29. | :18:32. | |
than they had anticipated. So they missed the deadline of July the | :18:33. | :18:37. | |
first, then they extended it to July the seventh, then July the 10th. | :18:38. | :18:42. | |
They ended up on a rolling deadline basically. | :18:43. | :18:43. | |
Just before midnight when the Iranians negotiator posted something | :18:44. | :18:55. | |
on his Instagram, the picture of Iranians supreme leader's hand as if | :18:56. | :18:59. | |
he's signing of something -- Iranians. There is no commentary. | :19:00. | :19:05. | |
But that picture was speaking for itself. That's when we thought there | :19:06. | :19:07. | |
might be a deal. Later on our cameraman caught the | :19:08. | :19:15. | |
Iranian negotiating team late night in their room. They were very | :19:16. | :19:21. | |
relaxed, happy and smiley, going through that text, which ended up | :19:22. | :19:24. | |
being the deal. For sure that the deal was done | :19:25. | :19:34. | |
three o'clock in the morning on the 14th of July. This is actually when | :19:35. | :19:39. | |
we finalised the texts. I felt tremendously relieved at that | :19:40. | :19:43. | |
moment. It was so overwhelming that I can't even say it was happy, it | :19:44. | :19:46. | |
was just relief it was done. I think that the Iranians nuclear | :19:47. | :20:57. | |
deal made a huge contribution to solve the nuclear problem in a | :20:58. | :21:02. | |
peaceful way -- Iranians. I'm strongly convinced if we had not | :21:03. | :21:09. | |
reached this solution in summer of 2015 then we would have been | :21:10. | :21:15. | |
confronted with a very difficult situation, including a discussion on | :21:16. | :21:18. | |
military options. When we reached success and it was a | :21:19. | :21:35. | |
private moment for everyone to reflect on what we had done, and | :21:36. | :21:39. | |
each of the ministers made a statement, and every statement was | :21:40. | :21:45. | |
truly eloquent. And Secretary Kerry was the last person to speak. And he | :21:46. | :21:52. | |
recounted that when he was 21 he went off to war in Vietnam. He made | :21:53. | :21:57. | |
a commitment that he would do whatever he could in his life to | :21:58. | :22:02. | |
make sure that there was never wore ever again. And that's what he was | :22:03. | :22:11. | |
about in this negotiation. The room was absolutely still. There was | :22:12. | :22:19. | |
quiet. And then everyone, including the Iranians, applauded. Because I | :22:20. | :22:26. | |
think for all of us we understood that what we had done was to try to | :22:27. | :22:30. | |
ensure peace, not war. A mixed weekend of whether coming | :22:31. | :23:18. | |
up, warm and muddy for some, much pressure for others, wet for a few. | :23:19. | :23:21. | |
It | :23:22. | :23:22. |