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Had unprotected sex the night before? This pill may get you off

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the hook. Free soon from all Welsh pharmacies. Even to under-16s. Some

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see it as a good thing. Young girls who do not have money and worries

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about going to the doctors, they can just go there and they do not

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have to pay for it. Others aren't so sure. Sex, sexuality is a human

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activity. It has consequences. is better than nothing. But still a

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high chance of you getting pregnant. I think handing pills out over the

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counter is just encouraging kids to I can feel it! Charlotte is 15 and

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five months pregnant. It just kicked me! Oh my God! It kicked me.

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Her friend Nikita isn't much older and has her own baby. Nikita's

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supporting her friend and today, along with grandmother Shirley,

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they've come to Swansea's Singleton hospital for Charlotte's check up.

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They are going to send me for tests to see how the growth of the baby

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is. She is a bit worried. They say it is normal in youngsters and even

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in fourteen-year-old. She was only �6 when she was born so probably

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the baby will be a bit small but I am sure she will be all right.

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She's one of about 400 girls under 16 who get pregnant in Wales every

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year. I knew straight away I was pregnant. They can go on holiday

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together. There will only be eight months between them. What's the

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advice? Gas and air! Seriously. It kills. It is not difficult to think

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about contraception but it is not 100% anyway so you could use the

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morning-after pill but it is not always 100%. You could use condoms

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and they are not 100%. They could get damaged or split. You can have

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a Rodda Mach can snap. You can even be pregnant before you have had it

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in and it takes seven days to get used to your body. Charlotte's

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struggles with contraception have left her with an unplanned

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pregnancy but not an unwanted baby. She lives with her grandparents in

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Mansleton, Swansea. These things happen. She is not the first and

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she will not be the last. I was worried in the beginning because of

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her age. I thought that perhaps she would miss out on her teenage years.

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But as the weeks are going on, I am looking forward to it. We will help

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are all we can. But I think she'll make a good mother. Kita and

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Charlotte's babies were unplanned. The Welsh government wants to cut

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down on the number of unintended teenage conceptions. It's one of

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the aims of its sexual health strategy. Emergency contraception

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is to be made more widely available. The so-called morning after pill,

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if taken soon after sex, can prevent pregnancy. It's been

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available from pharmacies over the counter at �26 a pill. Over the

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last ten years more and more chemists have been providing it

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free, under a Welsh government scheme. You are the pharmacist here.

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If I was to come in as a woman wanting emergency contraception,

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how would you deal with they? would be given to pieces of

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information to start with. One would be that you can obtain

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emergency contraception from us and the second thing would be that you

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have to answer a number of questions, some of which will be

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personal. If you are agreeable to that, someone would call me and I

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would come and have a word. The whole process would occur within a

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By the autumn, every pharmacy in Wales should have joined the scheme

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supplying free pills. This is a private room. We have to have a

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private room to be part of the scheme. The Welsh government says

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pharmacies have a key role in the strategy to reduce unwanted

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pregnancies. They are open for longer and are often more

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convenient than NHS centres. We are available outside office hours.

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Pharmacy services are available over seven days a week. Timeliness

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is important in this context because emergency contraception is

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only useful for up to 72 hours. There is a difference in

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effectiveness over that period of time. The sooner the client

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accesses the services, the better. If the pharmacist is satisfied

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after a 20-minute consultation, they can supply the pill even to

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girls as young as 13. It's a confidential service, so parents

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don't have to be informed. Steve Newbury's been part of the scheme

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now for two years. The majority of clients that I have seen have been

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older than 16. Probably two clients out of more than 200 clients who

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have access the scheme here would be under 16. How to help teenagers

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make the right choices about when to have a baby is an important

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issue for everyone. What about another baby? What contraception?

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Projects like this in Barry help teenage mums after they've given

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birth. There's lots of advice, a creche and a very supportive

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atmosphere. Tamara Davies is a 16- year-old single mother. I was only

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with the baby's dad for one month. When I found out I was scared and

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shocked. After its Hunkin, the next day I was excited but still a bit

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scared at the same time. I was not on anything because I was only with

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the baby's dad for one month and we were not doing anything. I was

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going up the doctors to go up -- a go on the pale and we slept

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together the once and that was when it occurred so by the time I'd got

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to the doctor up it had already occurred. Amy Burnett was pregnant

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at 17 and that was also unplanned. I was three-and a-half months and I

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found out. When I found out, it happened really quit after that. It

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was shock. I was working and I worked until I was about eight

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months. I had a massive bump but it went really quick. Amy's life has

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changed since she's had Brandon. You have times when you ask him to

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go to sleep and you just want to get everything done and you have to

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leave it until they are asleep and then you can get everything done.

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But until then it is just, do my dishes, do my foot and you have to

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feed them first but I am used to it now. A lot of the goals I work with

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our children having children and they lose a lot of their self-

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confidence and self-esteem when they find themselves pregnant and

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quite often the circumstances that they find themselves in leaves them

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very vulnerable. We want to help support them and are better

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equipped they are themselves, the better they are able to develop

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their children. They are very often not supported adequately. Perhaps

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their partner, with whom they are having a baby, does not say with

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them. Perhaps their family are not able to support them as adequately

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as they need. Not everybody has an unplanned pregnancy but mistakes

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happen. But supporting teenage mums with projects like this one called

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Flying Start is expensive. Every pound spent on contraception saves

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the public purse about ten times as much. The girls here have mixed

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feeling about the morning after pill. Young girls can go in and

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they can get it. You do not do it loads of time. You cannot keep

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doing it but it is for an emergency. It is good for stuff like that.

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encourages younger people, it is saying that they can have sex

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without using anything and it does not really matter because

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contraception is just on hand anyway for afterwards. I think it

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is better to use other contraception so before actually

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having sex. Back in Swansea, 15- year-old Charlotte agrees. I think

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handing pills over the counter is encouraging teenagers to have sex,

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to be honest with you. Do you think too many teenagers are having sex?

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Yes, way too many. Why? Because they think they have got to do it,

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just to get in at school. They think, I slept with that person,

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you slept with a person. Now, as a teenage mum-to-be, Charlotte feels

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stigmatised. I have had people call me slag and stuff like that. What

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do you think when there and say that to you? There are girls who

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have not got pregnant because they have abortions and everything. When

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I was with one boy for nearly two years. Do you think you could be as

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good a mum as anyone else? I will be a better mum than others. People

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can turn around and say because they are young, they will not be

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any good at being a mum, they do not know nothing. Well, we do.

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Catholic Church has watched with growing concern the increased

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availability of contraception, especially to youngsters under the

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age of 16, the legal age for sex. The Catholic Church teaches that

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artificial contraception is not a morally -- morally correct thing to

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do. When one looks at the introduction of the morning-after

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pill, which Don and straights that the separation -- demonstrates that

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the separation between sexuality and sex and responsibility. You are

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left with something which is devoid of its intention, a recreational

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activity almost. The church and some other organisations are

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particularly worried about pharmacists giving the morning

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after pill to younger girls. I showed Monsignor Reardon the form

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that pharmacists take girls through before agreeing to provide the drug.

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Is the farmer missed its -- is the pharmacist's satisfied that it is

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in the young person's best interest to give treatment? Be concern I

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would have and the question I would ask his however good the pharmacist

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is, he or she could quite possibly be meeting this young person for

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the first time. They are asked to make a judgment on that person's

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best interests without having a discussion with a parent or a

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significant adults in that young NHS Sexual Health clinics like this

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one, and the local GP, have been the places where teenagers have

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traditionally come to get contraception. The age of people

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starting to have intercourse seems to get lower and lower and we are

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seeing those people, younger and younger. Often they don't think

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about regular contraception until they have already had unprotected

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sex. At least once. Quite often alcohol is a factor. And they lose

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their inhibitions and do things they wouldn't normally do and they

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take more risks with their sexual health when they have had alcohol

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but then, afterwards, obviously they seem to find out when they

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realise there's a problem, they seem to find died where they can

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then obtain emergency contraception. Some clinicians are concerned that

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the pharmacy scheme will mean that the pills will get emphasised over

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other methods. The pale as emergency contraception is likely

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to be preferable to do absolutely nothing if someone had unprotected

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sex and doesn't want to be pregnant. But there are still a very high

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chance, compared to all the other things. The device that beats these

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polls by a long way is there copper coil which can be fitted also until

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at least five days after the intercourse, maybe even longer.

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This device has and effectiveness of at least 99% if it is used as

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emergency contraception and then they can carry on using it for the

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next five or 10 years, because that's how long they would last if

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they would like to keep it. With the morning after pill there is a

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one in 20 chance of getting pregnant compared with a one in 100

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chance with the emergency IUD. People have always said I didn't

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know that. It works really well, doesn't it? I am concerned that

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message does not get out. Pharmacists can't fit the more

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effective longer acting contraceptivies like the IUD but

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say they are trained to promote them. We think about the type of

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contraception that the client needs on an ongoing basis. Part of the

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process is to establish, not just their need today, but whether

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appropriate provision has been made into the future. Back in Swansea,

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it's an important day for Charlotte. She's come for a scan. She's been

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worried her baby's not growing fast enough but she's also keen to know

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if it's a boy or a girl. This is the scan I was worried about the

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most because this is where they can tell if the spine and everything is

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OK, everything is growing. When they said about the baby's growth,

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it really scared me but they says it's common with first babies,

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anyway. People's first babies. It really scared me. Sheering

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everything is fine or just to reassure us you, so I am really

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glad. It's going to be had bring up a child on her own, yes. I was

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young, 17. But then I was married and had a partner. It made it

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easier then. So what about Charlotte's partner? Will the

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father be with you through this? don't know. Would you like him to

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be with you? In some ways yes, other ways, no. Why not? He doesn't

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deserve to be a father. Is he not interested? No. In the ways you

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would like him to be there, why would you like him to be there?

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It's every mother's dream to have both parents there for their child.

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The baby's forehead, his face. would you like best of all? If I

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had a girl, I would like to bring it to dancing, singing lessons,

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whatever she wants to do. Everyone has had a chance in life. I want

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them to go to college. And eventually have kids of their own

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when they are old enough. Not as young as you. Maybe wait until they

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are a little bit older. Finally, Charlotte is getting the news she

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has been waiting to hear. We are about 98% accurate, so I can tell

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you I think this baby is probably a girl. Oh God! Everyone said it was

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a girl. Emergency contraception is a last line of defence. The BMA,

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which represents family doctors, welcomes the pharmacy scheme, but

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has reservations. Pharmacists are trained very well to give the

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Tablet. The difference is what the GPs are trained to do is to look at

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the whole person, not just one aspect of it or one part of it, but

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the broadest aspect of their health. Pharmacists say they are more

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accessible than GPs. They will discuss ongoing health problems and

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will suggest patients contact their doctors if necessary. But GPs still

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aren't convinced. One thing you have to remember is that a GP's

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surgery is like a mini hospital these days so when somebody sits

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down with me and says, I need the morning after pill, I can explore

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with them many other aspects of their health, for example, we can

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talk about their ongoing contraceptive needs. Perhaps why

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they are not on a regular contraception or the last type they

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were wrong failed. Maybe we could start them on something you or

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refer them if necessary. We can look perhaps if they are seeking to

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become pregnant in the future, we can talk to them about health

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issues so, generally speaking, when people come to see the GP, it isn't

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usually just about the thing. Welsh government has identified our

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high rates of teenage pregnancy as a public health priority in its

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latest sexual health action plan. We've established that providing

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free morning after pills through pharmacies will cost the Welsh NHS

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up to �300,000 a year. And we've uncovered evidence suggesting that

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this kind of scheme has little effect on teenage pregnancy rates,

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bringing into question the cost- effectiveness of the policy. This

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research looked at Bridgend where the scheme was first introduced ten

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These findings came as no surprise to some academics who have been

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studying the situation in England, where some parts have adopted a

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similar scheme and some haven't. found, contrary to what people were

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hoping, the introduction of the morning after pill for young people

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didn't have any effect in terms of reducing teenage pregnancy rates.

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There have been around two dozen studies on other countries saying

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the same thing. So what could be the reasons? One of the hypotheses

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is that access to the morning after pill leads to an increase in sexual

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risk-taking behaviour. Another possibility that increasingly

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doctors are suggesting is that some forms of emergency birth control

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are less effective in preventing pregnancy than was once thought.

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This professor's research suggests something else. We found that there

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was a 12% relative increase in sexual infections amongst under

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sixteens in the areas with emergency birth control free of

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charge at pharmacies, compared to other areas. If the pharmacies

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scheme increases S T Dees by encouraging risky behaviour, it

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comes as no surprise to those of the morning against the whole

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direction of government policy. and sexuality, reduced to a mere

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biological thing, to a recreational activity, is something which has

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become very, very casual and, again are separated from aspect of

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intimacy, of love, and its role in the growth and the maturing of a

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What is clear is that there are many reasons that teenagers get

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pregnant. It certainly changes their lives. In a way, to be honest,

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I think it's the best thing that's ever happened to me. I could have

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been a bit older when they had a baby, but it gives you a whole

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different perspective, to be honest with you. Now I realise I have got

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to grow up and I'm going to be a mother, which means, like, it gives

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you something to, like, grow up four. You have got a reason to,

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like, grow up and do well in life and set fact that. -- and stuff

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like that. We are looking at your choices have to protect yourself

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physically, emotionally and in the social context of where you are at

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this moment in time. Some people are babies for different reasons.

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Because they want to be loved and cared for. There are no other

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options for them and they think a baby will fill this gap. What were

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you doing before you became pregnant? Getting drunk every

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weekend. Before I had the baby. After the baby, it made my life

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better, even though I can't do as much as I used to. It has made life

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better. Better because you have become a mother? Yes. I started

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acting different. When people used to shout at me, I started to shout

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back. I came out of my shell. became more confident? Yes.

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Welsh government's sexual health strategy isn't just about supplying

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contraception. Sex and relationships education play a big

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part. We don't want you going out there with loaded guns shooting all

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over the place. We want to make sure you use your gun properly when

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you should do. Does that make sense? At this school in Barry, the

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boys like lessons delivered by outside agencies but criticise the

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curriculum for emphasising sex over relationships. They go straight to

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the physical part of the relationship, rather than intimacy

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with each other. They could bring in a young couple, and married

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couple, stuff like that. I think it a good idea because it shows how

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you can make it successful, you could build a relationship so you

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can get to a point way you are both comfortable talking about the

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sexual part of their relationship. In light of all the evidence we've

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seen, we wanted to ask the new health minister Lesley Griffiths

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whether her department still thought the pharmacy scheme was a

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good way of reducing teenage pregnancies. Our request was

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declined. A welsh government spokesman said the scheme was "an

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important aspect of a comprehensive sexual health service but not part

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of our strategy to reduce teenage conceptions." Some observers say

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that's not the impression left by her predecessor. The health

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minister talked about the aim of reducing teenage pregnancy rates

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and abortions so I was a bit surprised that that was being used

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as a rationale for this policy and it may be that policy makers are

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just not aware of the evidence on this issue. Some are calling for an

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early review to see if the pharmacies scheme is working.

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teenage pregnancy rate is multifactorial. We can't say it's

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because of one thing or another thing so making was available, is

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it part of the solution, will it actually increase good behaviour?

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Will it change behaviour to make more risky behaviour more common?

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Will it decrees pregnancy rates, and the evidence at the moment is,

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actually, there is no good evidence that decreases teenage pregnancy

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rates. And that, I think, is the fundamental question.

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pharmacies scheme will be fully rolled out in a few months. About

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the time Charlotte's little girl is due. And she's getting her room

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ready. I'm going to put this round to the Mirror. Charlotte has

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learned from experience, too. wish for a baby too quick. I used

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to say I can't wait for a baby. You have got to be careful what you

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