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language. Tonight, we investigate legal highs. | :00:07. | :00:12. | |
All we can do is keep an eye on things that will become a problem. | :00:12. | :00:17. | |
We meet the users. There will always be a replacement. It has got | :00:17. | :00:22. | |
to be the maddest thing I have taken. It was horrible. We go under | :00:23. | :00:27. | |
cover. And we show the disturbing effects | :00:28. | :00:34. | |
of some of these legal drugs. will give a strong warning to | :00:34. | :00:40. | |
everyone, do not take them. Can I ask you are a couple of questions | :00:40. | :00:45. | |
about a product you sold to a 17- year-old girl? A generation of | :00:45. | :00:55. | |
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young people are being sold a lie. Craig Mahoney is celebrating his | :01:01. | :01:06. | |
26th birthday at his flat in Cardiff. Craig and his friends have | :01:07. | :01:12. | |
bought a product called Salvia. take it and then you feel different. | :01:12. | :01:16. | |
Your head feels really light and all of a sudden, it just hits you. | :01:16. | :01:22. | |
This is a powerful drug, derived from a Mexican plant. It is illegal, | :01:23. | :01:27. | |
available to buy on the high street but it is not for human consumption. | :01:27. | :01:33. | |
I sweat a lot. I am just wet. You do it and then whatever you see, | :01:33. | :01:36. | |
you will trek, it will last a couple of minutes. It could be | :01:37. | :01:41. | |
anything. That happens and then you get brought back into the room. | :01:41. | :01:46. | |
Your head gets screwed back on. What is going on? Sometimes you can | :01:46. | :01:52. | |
get a bad trip or a good trip. The bad ones, you panic and some people | :01:52. | :01:58. | |
run out of the room. If I am screaming, I square right -- I | :01:58. | :02:02. | |
swear I will do it again. You have done it again and I am going to | :02:02. | :02:12. | |
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fucking kill you. Happy? Have you got the sweats again? Stopped | :02:14. | :02:18. | |
talking to me. Get away from me while I take drugs. Someone taking | :02:18. | :02:28. | |
out of the room. Legal highs can be heard will or plant product. They | :02:28. | :02:34. | |
can be chemical compounds, a liquid or even a gas. They are often | :02:34. | :02:36. | |
marketed as alternatives to classified drugs. More are | :02:36. | :02:46. | |
available than ever before. And they are getting stronger. 20-year- | :02:46. | :02:50. | |
old Ashley Pook is a student in Cardiff, a keen athlete, she trains | :02:50. | :02:55. | |
for triathlon is. She keeps herself fit but she also experiments with | :02:55. | :03:02. | |
some drugs. Ashley and her friend Hannah Meadows wanted to try a | :03:02. | :03:06. | |
legal high for a night out. In February, they went on line to get | :03:06. | :03:13. | |
drugs delivered to their door. was one of the most expensive. We | :03:13. | :03:16. | |
thought it was like that for a reason. It was the most popular, it | :03:16. | :03:25. | |
was sold out. It had good reviews. We watched that Daioni YouTube. He | :03:25. | :03:31. | |
looked like he was really enjoying it. We thought, we have to get it. | :03:32. | :03:34. | |
It will be amazing. I went on to the website and I spent so much | :03:34. | :03:41. | |
money. I spent �130. They said it was planned fooled and not for | :03:41. | :03:49. | |
human consumption. It said, enjoy your party. It said a not to be | :03:49. | :03:54. | |
consumed by humans. They have to say that. They bought their drugs | :03:54. | :03:59. | |
online. But you can also get them on the High Street. In places known | :03:59. | :04:05. | |
as head shops. These array few of the highs that you can buy in shops. | :04:05. | :04:09. | |
And even if they are legal, some of them should certainly not be sold | :04:09. | :04:13. | |
for human consumption. And if they are, then the person selling them | :04:13. | :04:21. | |
is breaking the law. We have been told some shops are | :04:21. | :04:27. | |
doing just that. A member of our team is going undercover. She is | :04:27. | :04:32. | |
just 17. Too young to buy alcohol. But what could she get hold of on | :04:32. | :04:37. | |
the High Street? She went to a number of shops, one of them was | :04:37. | :04:40. | |
The Party Shop in Swansea. There were fancy-dress things in the | :04:40. | :04:45. | |
window. In the small window, there was a gas mask. It had a bomb | :04:45. | :04:55. | |
attached to the front of it. I went in and ask for Salvia. -- bomb | :04:55. | :05:00. | |
attached to it. Salvia comes in different strengths. This man is | :05:00. | :05:04. | |
the shop owner. Legally, he is allowed to Senate, but not for | :05:04. | :05:11. | |
human consumption. A customer chips in. What do I do with it? But it in | :05:11. | :05:19. | |
a pipe. Other shops ask my age or made it clear that they could not | :05:19. | :05:29. | |
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The owner should not be telling her how to consume Salvia. He pointed | :05:39. | :05:44. | |
to a bong and then he brought one down. He said it was �5.99. And | :05:44. | :05:54. | |
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then he indicated where I should Our research has been just sold a | :06:02. | :06:12. | |
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bomb. She was made -- she made Drug workers are becoming more | :06:21. | :06:26. | |
worried about the sale of legal highs which many people believe are | :06:26. | :06:30. | |
all harmless. Alan Andrews is a former drug user and now runs a | :06:30. | :06:36. | |
support service in Llanelli. It is becoming a bigger problem than | :06:36. | :06:42. | |
illegal drugs because the message, the legal means safe, which it is | :06:42. | :06:49. | |
not, and these drugs, some of them are stronger, more potent than the | :06:49. | :06:55. | |
illegal drugs. And it is quite scary because there is a generation | :06:55. | :07:02. | |
of young people who have been sold a lie that legal means safe. The | :07:02. | :07:08. | |
police, their hands are tied because they are legal. But they | :07:08. | :07:15. | |
are very potent. Last month, the monitoring centre which records | :07:15. | :07:20. | |
drug use across Europe said new legal highs were appearing at an | :07:20. | :07:27. | |
unprecedented pace. 41 new substances last year alone. Let's | :07:27. | :07:34. | |
see what we can find online. Already, a heap of websites trying | :07:34. | :07:38. | |
to sell me stuff. The amount of legal highs available | :07:38. | :07:44. | |
to buy online it suggests a large number of people are using them. | :07:44. | :07:49. | |
This one says legal ecstasy, whatever that is. Legal speed. | :07:49. | :07:56. | |
I have also find a forum where people discuss the legal highs and | :07:56. | :07:59. | |
share notes. It says it will not be around for | :07:59. | :08:04. | |
long before it is banned. This guy snorted eight lines. A few people | :08:04. | :08:09. | |
waiting for a few more reports before they try any of it. | :08:09. | :08:15. | |
I found this one well Sky who takes the drugs and reviews the effects | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
they are having on him in these videos -- videos he has posted on | :08:18. | :08:28. | |
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the internet. I am an adviser. I advise people what the best legal | :08:31. | :08:38. | |
highs are to do and which ones are not. And now, you have got a bigger | :08:38. | :08:43. | |
problem on your hands now. Because now you have got all these new | :08:43. | :08:48. | |
chemicals out now and if you ban one, there will always be a | :08:48. | :08:54. | |
replacement. I fucking love you, my friends! Legal highs are not a new | :08:54. | :08:58. | |
problem but there are concerns that they are getting stronger. A few | :08:58. | :09:03. | |
years ago, mephedrone, known as meow meow became the party drug of | :09:03. | :09:07. | |
choice for many. Its effects were compared with speed and ecstasy but | :09:07. | :09:12. | |
crucially, it was legal. It hit the headlines after being linked to way | :09:12. | :09:16. | |
number of young deaths. availability, you can buy it off | :09:16. | :09:20. | |
the internet. There are hundreds of websites. 19-year-old Eddie it | :09:20. | :09:25. | |
lives in Cardiff. He is familiar with the drugs scene and meow meow. | :09:25. | :09:31. | |
I have never known a drug to be so available. People were getting it | :09:31. | :09:36. | |
sent in boxes to the halls. It was everywhere. Mephedrone was cheap, | :09:37. | :09:44. | |
legal and a hit with clubbers. Elliott has used some illegal drugs | :09:44. | :09:48. | |
and thought that legal highs were just a joke. Then he tried | :09:48. | :09:58. | |
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mephedrone. Two grams for a tenner. It is so potent. It was shocking. | :09:59. | :10:04. | |
But as more people use mephedrone, stories began to emerge about the | :10:04. | :10:08. | |
consequences of taking it. It wears off so quickly. But as soon as it | :10:08. | :10:14. | |
wears off, you were constantly feeding for that next hit. I know a | :10:14. | :10:18. | |
few people, I would not call them addicts but they do rely on this | :10:18. | :10:22. | |
drug to have a good time. But for some users, there was more than | :10:22. | :10:28. | |
just a comedown. 18-year-old Max Llewellyn from the Rhondda Valley | :10:28. | :10:32. | |
was using mephedrone. In January last year, he killed himself. At | :10:32. | :10:37. | |
his inquest, the coroner said mephedrone had a role in his death, | :10:37. | :10:42. | |
describing the drug as evil. In April last year, it was banned and | :10:42. | :10:47. | |
made a Class B drug. But Elliott knows people are still using it. | :10:47. | :10:52. | |
There was a girl that said to me and a friend, her exact words were | :10:52. | :10:55. | |
I never took drugs and then someone told me this was illegal so I | :10:55. | :11:00. | |
sniffed it. And now we see that girl every week, of her box in | :11:00. | :11:06. | |
clubs. Since the drug has been banned, police in Wales have made | :11:06. | :11:12. | |
more than 100 arrests. This man was prosecuted but under -- undeterred, | :11:12. | :11:19. | |
he continues to take mephedrone. He asked us not to identify him. | :11:19. | :11:27. | |
stop if need be. But for now, it is not a hard thing, it does not | :11:27. | :11:34. | |
control my life. I still work. A can have fun. I can still go to my | :11:34. | :11:44. | |
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house and speak to my mother. It is not out of control. I am a man with | :11:46. | :11:50. | |
a plan. I go out and do whatever happens. It is something to do. | :11:50. | :11:59. | |
Something for the weekend. authorities have also considered | :11:59. | :12:04. | |
banning Salvia but decided against it. John Ramsey sits on a working | :12:04. | :12:10. | |
group which reports to the UK government's drugs Advisory Council. | :12:10. | :12:12. | |
The Advisory Council on misuse of drugs has considered Salvia and I | :12:12. | :12:18. | |
think it probably will consider it again. The issue really is whether | :12:18. | :12:22. | |
we ban everything as soon as we see it. And there are just so many | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
things to consider that I think the general view is Salvia at the | :12:26. | :12:29. | |
moment does not constitute a sufficient problem to warrant | :12:29. | :12:38. | |
control. Salvia has been dubbed the YouTube drug because of the number | :12:38. | :12:44. | |
of people posting videos showing its effect. This is what happened | :12:44. | :12:50. | |
when 36-year-old Mark Hopkins took Salvia for the first time. We | :12:50. | :12:54. | |
wanted to speak to him about his experience. We found him and his | :12:54. | :12:57. | |
friend Neville birth -- Neville Braithwaite of the Gurnos estate in | :12:57. | :13:02. | |
Merthyr. He did not know what was going on. He was trying to get out | :13:02. | :13:06. | |
of the house but we did not want him to come outside in case he | :13:06. | :13:11. | |
heard himself. He thought we were going to beat him up. I would not | :13:11. | :13:19. | |
do it again. I would not. I would not recommend anyone else doing it. | :13:19. | :13:28. | |
I would rather go out and buy something else. At that time, I did | :13:28. | :13:35. | |
feel insecure. Neville Braithwaite is also filmed having taken Salvia. | :13:35. | :13:40. | |
That has got to be the maddest thing I have taken, probably. I | :13:40. | :13:44. | |
have tried magic mushrooms and acid and out of everything that has | :13:44. | :13:47. | |
smashed my head, it has got to be that, Salvia. I do not think I | :13:47. | :13:51. | |
would want another goal. John Ramsey tests thousands of drugs | :13:51. | :13:57. | |
every year. Salvia is quite an unpleasant drugs. It is a very | :13:57. | :14:01. | |
potent, powerful Huse -- hallucinogenic. It has powerful | :14:01. | :14:08. | |
effects that come on quickly and wrecked -- run off fairly quickly. | :14:08. | :14:11. | |
We are not overly concerned about it because very few people take it | :14:11. | :14:21. | |
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I don't think I will ever try it again. You do not know what is | :14:22. | :14:32. | |
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going on. You cannot control it. not take it. It is not nice at all. | :14:35. | :14:40. | |
Sao we're was not banned. Experts thought it so strong, it would not | :14:40. | :14:46. | |
be regularly used. Having been sold a bona, our research is going back | :14:46. | :14:56. | |
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to the party shocked to see how she would be sold the drug. I know | :14:59. | :15:09. | |
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friends of mine who have smoked Salvia. If you were really careful, | :15:19. | :15:28. | |
it is pleasant. So it defied by that -- so if I buy that? I do not | :15:28. | :15:37. | |
know. She should not be selling Salvia too aware researcher when it | :15:37. | :15:46. | |
is clear she was intending to consume it. Neville and Mark had | :15:46. | :15:53. | |
times 10 strength. She has just been sold time 60. A few minutes | :15:53. | :16:03. | |
later she returns and is sold a pipe. This is the cheapest one. | :16:03. | :16:13. | |
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�3.99. I will take the silver won. What do why do with it? You need | :16:15. | :16:25. | |
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these with it as well. That 50p. -- that is 50p. Thank you. So go away | :16:30. | :16:37. | |
researcher has the Salvia. That equipment she needs to use it as | :16:37. | :16:42. | |
well. In selling it to her for human consumption, they have broken | :16:42. | :16:49. | |
the law. We contacted the owner of the shop. He did not want to be | :16:49. | :16:59. | |
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interviewed, but in a statement he Craig Mahoney, the party goes on. | :17:15. | :17:21. | |
had two bad trips today. This is really strong. Craig has a full- | :17:21. | :17:29. | |
time job, but when off duty, he occasionally chooses to take Salvia. | :17:29. | :17:32. | |
If you have a bad trip, it scares people and they say they will not | :17:32. | :17:42. | |
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do it again. Other people, they love it. Sow fear can be | :17:44. | :17:51. | |
unpredictable. Craig's brother learns no two trips are the same. | :17:51. | :18:01. | |
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This is fucking meet up! -- me up! The air are concerns it can cause | :18:04. | :18:10. | |
psychotic episodes. Do you think they could be risks? Should I be | :18:10. | :18:15. | |
taking this? If it is legal and it is in the shop, it can't do | :18:15. | :18:23. | |
anything to harm you. Do you see what I mean? One minute it is | :18:23. | :18:33. | |
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really intense. I feel like I cannot get out of this. Craig | :18:39. | :18:47. | |
bought his a Salvia in a shop. To buy their legal highs, Ashbee and | :18:47. | :18:57. | |
Hanna -- Ashley and her friend did not need to leave the house. It was | :18:57. | :19:03. | |
horrible. It felt as if you work crashed on the floor. It was | :19:03. | :19:08. | |
intensely depressing. I actually thought I was going to die. It was | :19:08. | :19:15. | |
horrible. People go on the street and buy bags of cocaine and they | :19:15. | :19:25. | |
don't worry, but of a website, on the computer, it cannot be that bad | :19:25. | :19:31. | |
because it has got its own website. They don't even know what chemicals | :19:31. | :19:40. | |
they talk. The night ended with them in hospital. It is not just | :19:40. | :19:50. | |
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A&E that deals with the consequences of legal highs, its FX | :19:53. | :20:03. | |
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other people. These doormen are briefed on what legal highs off. | :20:05. | :20:15. | |
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someone has drugs, we ban them automatically for three months. | :20:17. | :20:27. | |
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Tony, it can be a dirty job. combat the drug taking, we are | :20:28. | :20:36. | |
putting Vaseline and WD40 on the surfaces. You can see the brown | :20:36. | :20:46. | |
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stains. There was a lot of residue. WD 40 disintegrates cocaine. We | :20:49. | :20:54. | |
have taken locks off the doors so that we can get easy access. You | :20:54. | :21:01. | |
can see more brown stairs -- brown stains hair. Once they have taken | :21:01. | :21:07. | |
it, they throw and the bags a way. Sometimes they hide them in here. | :21:07. | :21:11. | |
It is difficult to police, but we are trying our best. Tony suspects | :21:11. | :21:21. | |
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a man of being on a drugs. Al says he was trying to Spyker drink. | :21:25. | :21:35. | |
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you got a brown bottle on you? He didn't look right. We do not want | :21:41. | :21:46. | |
to take a risk. If they take something and it kills them, it is | :21:46. | :21:56. | |
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on our heads. We are trying our hardest. So who is policing the | :22:03. | :22:07. | |
sale of legal highs? The Home Office and Department of Health | :22:07. | :22:12. | |
both have roles, as do agencies like Trading Standards. Jackie | :22:12. | :22:17. | |
James words for them in Cardiff. These substances are unknown. We | :22:17. | :22:23. | |
don't know where they were produced, who Magan. I have a 1,000 questions | :22:23. | :22:27. | |
about these products and I have no answers. When we look get some of | :22:27. | :22:32. | |
the samples, you see some of the things people put on them to get | :22:32. | :22:37. | |
around legislation. They will have things on them like, not for human | :22:37. | :22:47. | |
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consumption. Can you think of any other product that is so | :22:48. | :22:57. | |
unregulated? A generally, I can't. -- generally, I can't. Our research | :22:57. | :23:07. | |
is under cover again. This time she is in Llanelli on the lookout for a | :23:07. | :23:17. | |
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liquid-known as Poppers. -- liquid known as Poppers. What will I do? | :23:25. | :23:35. | |
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You just sniff it. Selling the poppers is against the law. It | :23:40. | :23:50. | |
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She advised me not to take it on my own and said I should have someone | :24:00. | :24:08. | |
with may when I did it because it makes your head feel funny. Our 17- | :24:08. | :24:12. | |
year-old is sold the poppers and is told how to use it, which is | :24:12. | :24:22. | |
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against the law. Poplars used to contain isopropyl nitrate. That was | :24:24. | :24:34. | |
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removed because it was suspected the compound could cause cancer. | :24:40. | :24:44. | |
However the replacement hasn't been properly tested. Do you think the | :24:44. | :24:49. | |
people who take it in poppers are aware of that risk? I don't think | :24:49. | :24:57. | |
they are. We contacted at Magpie's Nest where our 17-year-old | :24:57. | :25:03. | |
researcher was sold the liquid high. The owner did not answer our | :25:03. | :25:09. | |
allegations, so we went to the shop to talk to him. First, we met the | :25:09. | :25:15. | |
shop assistant who sold the poppers. We have got some evidence of a 17- | :25:15. | :25:20. | |
year-old girl been sold poppers and been sold -- shown how to use them. | :25:20. | :25:25. | |
That is against the law. I think you were that shop assistants that | :25:26. | :25:33. | |
sold the poppers to that girl. comment. Can you leave now. Then | :25:33. | :25:41. | |
the owner turned up. We are from BBC Wales. Can I ask you some | :25:41. | :25:46. | |
questions about a product to sell to a 17-year-old girl. We have | :25:47. | :25:52. | |
evidence you saw poppers to a 17- year-old girl. I told you, no | :25:52. | :26:00. | |
comment. Can you leave now, please? Trading Standards are interested in | :26:00. | :26:05. | |
the evidence gathered for this programme. Parliament is now | :26:05. | :26:09. | |
considering temporary banning orders on new legal highs. Someone | :26:09. | :26:16. | |
to go further. I think with the misuse of drugs Act, it is time for | :26:16. | :26:22. | |
it to be reviewed. There is talk of reclassification unsung trucks. The | :26:22. | :26:27. | |
development of these new compounds at the rate they are being | :26:27. | :26:31. | |
developed probably warrants a second look at how trucks are | :26:31. | :26:36. | |
controlled. We wanted to speak to the Home Office about this, but no | :26:36. | :26:46. | |
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minister was available. In a There are risks with taking illegal | :26:55. | :27:05. | |
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drugs as well, but with an unprecedented number of legal highs, | :27:05. | :27:13. | |
the effects are not known. Each one, as they are developed, will become | :27:13. | :27:23. | |
stronger than the one before. do not know what is in an. We are | :27:23. | :27:33. | |
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the guinea pigs. People will still try them out. I am starting to bend. | :27:37. | :27:41. | |
I don't understand how this is legal. It takes something to happen | :27:41. | :27:48. | |
before any one does anything about it. As long as they are available, | :27:48. | :27:55. | |
Craig, like many in Wales, is willing to gamble with legal highs. | :27:55. | :27:59. |