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language. Tonight, we investigate legal highs.

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All we can do is keep an eye on things that will become a problem.

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We meet the users. There will always be a replacement. It has got

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to be the maddest thing I have taken. It was horrible. We go under

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cover. And we show the disturbing effects

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of some of these legal drugs. will give a strong warning to

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everyone, do not take them. Can I ask you are a couple of questions

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about a product you sold to a 17- year-old girl? A generation of

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young people are being sold a lie. Craig Mahoney is celebrating his

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26th birthday at his flat in Cardiff. Craig and his friends have

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bought a product called Salvia. take it and then you feel different.

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Your head feels really light and all of a sudden, it just hits you.

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This is a powerful drug, derived from a Mexican plant. It is illegal,

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available to buy on the high street but it is not for human consumption.

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I sweat a lot. I am just wet. You do it and then whatever you see,

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you will trek, it will last a couple of minutes. It could be

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anything. That happens and then you get brought back into the room.

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Your head gets screwed back on. What is going on? Sometimes you can

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get a bad trip or a good trip. The bad ones, you panic and some people

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run out of the room. If I am screaming, I square right -- I

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swear I will do it again. You have done it again and I am going to

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fucking kill you. Happy? Have you got the sweats again? Stopped

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talking to me. Get away from me while I take drugs. Someone taking

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out of the room. Legal highs can be heard will or plant product. They

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can be chemical compounds, a liquid or even a gas. They are often

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marketed as alternatives to classified drugs. More are

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available than ever before. And they are getting stronger. 20-year-

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old Ashley Pook is a student in Cardiff, a keen athlete, she trains

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for triathlon is. She keeps herself fit but she also experiments with

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some drugs. Ashley and her friend Hannah Meadows wanted to try a

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legal high for a night out. In February, they went on line to get

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drugs delivered to their door. was one of the most expensive. We

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thought it was like that for a reason. It was the most popular, it

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was sold out. It had good reviews. We watched that Daioni YouTube. He

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looked like he was really enjoying it. We thought, we have to get it.

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It will be amazing. I went on to the website and I spent so much

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money. I spent �130. They said it was planned fooled and not for

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human consumption. It said, enjoy your party. It said a not to be

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consumed by humans. They have to say that. They bought their drugs

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online. But you can also get them on the High Street. In places known

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as head shops. These array few of the highs that you can buy in shops.

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And even if they are legal, some of them should certainly not be sold

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for human consumption. And if they are, then the person selling them

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is breaking the law. We have been told some shops are

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doing just that. A member of our team is going undercover. She is

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just 17. Too young to buy alcohol. But what could she get hold of on

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the High Street? She went to a number of shops, one of them was

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The Party Shop in Swansea. There were fancy-dress things in the

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window. In the small window, there was a gas mask. It had a bomb

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attached to the front of it. I went in and ask for Salvia. -- bomb

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attached to it. Salvia comes in different strengths. This man is

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the shop owner. Legally, he is allowed to Senate, but not for

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human consumption. A customer chips in. What do I do with it? But it in

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a pipe. Other shops ask my age or made it clear that they could not

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The owner should not be telling her how to consume Salvia. He pointed

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to a bong and then he brought one down. He said it was �5.99. And

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then he indicated where I should Our research has been just sold a

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bomb. She was made -- she made Drug workers are becoming more

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worried about the sale of legal highs which many people believe are

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all harmless. Alan Andrews is a former drug user and now runs a

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support service in Llanelli. It is becoming a bigger problem than

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illegal drugs because the message, the legal means safe, which it is

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not, and these drugs, some of them are stronger, more potent than the

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illegal drugs. And it is quite scary because there is a generation

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of young people who have been sold a lie that legal means safe. The

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police, their hands are tied because they are legal. But they

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are very potent. Last month, the monitoring centre which records

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drug use across Europe said new legal highs were appearing at an

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unprecedented pace. 41 new substances last year alone. Let's

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see what we can find online. Already, a heap of websites trying

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to sell me stuff. The amount of legal highs available

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to buy online it suggests a large number of people are using them.

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This one says legal ecstasy, whatever that is. Legal speed.

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I have also find a forum where people discuss the legal highs and

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share notes. It says it will not be around for

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long before it is banned. This guy snorted eight lines. A few people

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waiting for a few more reports before they try any of it.

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I found this one well Sky who takes the drugs and reviews the effects

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they are having on him in these videos -- videos he has posted on

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the internet. I am an adviser. I advise people what the best legal

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highs are to do and which ones are not. And now, you have got a bigger

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problem on your hands now. Because now you have got all these new

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chemicals out now and if you ban one, there will always be a

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replacement. I fucking love you, my friends! Legal highs are not a new

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problem but there are concerns that they are getting stronger. A few

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years ago, mephedrone, known as meow meow became the party drug of

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choice for many. Its effects were compared with speed and ecstasy but

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crucially, it was legal. It hit the headlines after being linked to way

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number of young deaths. availability, you can buy it off

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the internet. There are hundreds of websites. 19-year-old Eddie it

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lives in Cardiff. He is familiar with the drugs scene and meow meow.

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I have never known a drug to be so available. People were getting it

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sent in boxes to the halls. It was everywhere. Mephedrone was cheap,

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legal and a hit with clubbers. Elliott has used some illegal drugs

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and thought that legal highs were just a joke. Then he tried

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mephedrone. Two grams for a tenner. It is so potent. It was shocking.

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But as more people use mephedrone, stories began to emerge about the

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consequences of taking it. It wears off so quickly. But as soon as it

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wears off, you were constantly feeding for that next hit. I know a

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few people, I would not call them addicts but they do rely on this

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drug to have a good time. But for some users, there was more than

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just a comedown. 18-year-old Max Llewellyn from the Rhondda Valley

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was using mephedrone. In January last year, he killed himself. At

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his inquest, the coroner said mephedrone had a role in his death,

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describing the drug as evil. In April last year, it was banned and

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made a Class B drug. But Elliott knows people are still using it.

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There was a girl that said to me and a friend, her exact words were

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I never took drugs and then someone told me this was illegal so I

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sniffed it. And now we see that girl every week, of her box in

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clubs. Since the drug has been banned, police in Wales have made

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more than 100 arrests. This man was prosecuted but under -- undeterred,

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he continues to take mephedrone. He asked us not to identify him.

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stop if need be. But for now, it is not a hard thing, it does not

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control my life. I still work. A can have fun. I can still go to my

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house and speak to my mother. It is not out of control. I am a man with

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a plan. I go out and do whatever happens. It is something to do.

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Something for the weekend. authorities have also considered

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banning Salvia but decided against it. John Ramsey sits on a working

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group which reports to the UK government's drugs Advisory Council.

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The Advisory Council on misuse of drugs has considered Salvia and I

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think it probably will consider it again. The issue really is whether

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we ban everything as soon as we see it. And there are just so many

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things to consider that I think the general view is Salvia at the

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moment does not constitute a sufficient problem to warrant

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control. Salvia has been dubbed the YouTube drug because of the number

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of people posting videos showing its effect. This is what happened

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when 36-year-old Mark Hopkins took Salvia for the first time. We

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wanted to speak to him about his experience. We found him and his

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friend Neville birth -- Neville Braithwaite of the Gurnos estate in

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Merthyr. He did not know what was going on. He was trying to get out

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of the house but we did not want him to come outside in case he

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heard himself. He thought we were going to beat him up. I would not

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do it again. I would not. I would not recommend anyone else doing it.

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I would rather go out and buy something else. At that time, I did

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feel insecure. Neville Braithwaite is also filmed having taken Salvia.

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That has got to be the maddest thing I have taken, probably. I

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have tried magic mushrooms and acid and out of everything that has

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smashed my head, it has got to be that, Salvia. I do not think I

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would want another goal. John Ramsey tests thousands of drugs

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every year. Salvia is quite an unpleasant drugs. It is a very

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potent, powerful Huse -- hallucinogenic. It has powerful

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effects that come on quickly and wrecked -- run off fairly quickly.

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We are not overly concerned about it because very few people take it

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I don't think I will ever try it again. You do not know what is

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going on. You cannot control it. not take it. It is not nice at all.

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Sao we're was not banned. Experts thought it so strong, it would not

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be regularly used. Having been sold a bona, our research is going back

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to the party shocked to see how she would be sold the drug. I know

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friends of mine who have smoked Salvia. If you were really careful,

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it is pleasant. So it defied by that -- so if I buy that? I do not

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know. She should not be selling Salvia too aware researcher when it

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is clear she was intending to consume it. Neville and Mark had

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times 10 strength. She has just been sold time 60. A few minutes

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later she returns and is sold a pipe. This is the cheapest one.

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�3.99. I will take the silver won. What do why do with it? You need

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these with it as well. That 50p. -- that is 50p. Thank you. So go away

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researcher has the Salvia. That equipment she needs to use it as

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well. In selling it to her for human consumption, they have broken

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the law. We contacted the owner of the shop. He did not want to be

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interviewed, but in a statement he Craig Mahoney, the party goes on.

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had two bad trips today. This is really strong. Craig has a full-

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time job, but when off duty, he occasionally chooses to take Salvia.

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If you have a bad trip, it scares people and they say they will not

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do it again. Other people, they love it. Sow fear can be

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unpredictable. Craig's brother learns no two trips are the same.

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This is fucking meet up! -- me up! The air are concerns it can cause

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psychotic episodes. Do you think they could be risks? Should I be

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taking this? If it is legal and it is in the shop, it can't do

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anything to harm you. Do you see what I mean? One minute it is

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really intense. I feel like I cannot get out of this. Craig

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bought his a Salvia in a shop. To buy their legal highs, Ashbee and

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Hanna -- Ashley and her friend did not need to leave the house. It was

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horrible. It felt as if you work crashed on the floor. It was

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intensely depressing. I actually thought I was going to die. It was

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horrible. People go on the street and buy bags of cocaine and they

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don't worry, but of a website, on the computer, it cannot be that bad

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because it has got its own website. They don't even know what chemicals

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they talk. The night ended with them in hospital. It is not just

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A&E that deals with the consequences of legal highs, its FX

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other people. These doormen are briefed on what legal highs off.

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someone has drugs, we ban them automatically for three months.

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Tony, it can be a dirty job. combat the drug taking, we are

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putting Vaseline and WD40 on the surfaces. You can see the brown

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stains. There was a lot of residue. WD 40 disintegrates cocaine. We

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have taken locks off the doors so that we can get easy access. You

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can see more brown stairs -- brown stains hair. Once they have taken

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it, they throw and the bags a way. Sometimes they hide them in here.

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It is difficult to police, but we are trying our best. Tony suspects

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a man of being on a drugs. Al says he was trying to Spyker drink.

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you got a brown bottle on you? He didn't look right. We do not want

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to take a risk. If they take something and it kills them, it is

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on our heads. We are trying our hardest. So who is policing the

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sale of legal highs? The Home Office and Department of Health

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both have roles, as do agencies like Trading Standards. Jackie

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James words for them in Cardiff. These substances are unknown. We

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don't know where they were produced, who Magan. I have a 1,000 questions

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about these products and I have no answers. When we look get some of

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the samples, you see some of the things people put on them to get

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around legislation. They will have things on them like, not for human

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consumption. Can you think of any other product that is so

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unregulated? A generally, I can't. -- generally, I can't. Our research

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is under cover again. This time she is in Llanelli on the lookout for a

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liquid-known as Poppers. -- liquid known as Poppers. What will I do?

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You just sniff it. Selling the poppers is against the law. It

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She advised me not to take it on my own and said I should have someone

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with may when I did it because it makes your head feel funny. Our 17-

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year-old is sold the poppers and is told how to use it, which is

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against the law. Poplars used to contain isopropyl nitrate. That was

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removed because it was suspected the compound could cause cancer.

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However the replacement hasn't been properly tested. Do you think the

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people who take it in poppers are aware of that risk? I don't think

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they are. We contacted at Magpie's Nest where our 17-year-old

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researcher was sold the liquid high. The owner did not answer our

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allegations, so we went to the shop to talk to him. First, we met the

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shop assistant who sold the poppers. We have got some evidence of a 17-

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year-old girl been sold poppers and been sold -- shown how to use them.

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That is against the law. I think you were that shop assistants that

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sold the poppers to that girl. comment. Can you leave now. Then

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the owner turned up. We are from BBC Wales. Can I ask you some

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questions about a product to sell to a 17-year-old girl. We have

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evidence you saw poppers to a 17- year-old girl. I told you, no

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comment. Can you leave now, please? Trading Standards are interested in

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the evidence gathered for this programme. Parliament is now

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considering temporary banning orders on new legal highs. Someone

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to go further. I think with the misuse of drugs Act, it is time for

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it to be reviewed. There is talk of reclassification unsung trucks. The

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development of these new compounds at the rate they are being

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developed probably warrants a second look at how trucks are

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controlled. We wanted to speak to the Home Office about this, but no

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minister was available. In a There are risks with taking illegal

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drugs as well, but with an unprecedented number of legal highs,

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the effects are not known. Each one, as they are developed, will become

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stronger than the one before. do not know what is in an. We are

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the guinea pigs. People will still try them out. I am starting to bend.

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I don't understand how this is legal. It takes something to happen

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before any one does anything about it. As long as they are available,

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Craig, like many in Wales, is willing to gamble with legal highs.

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