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Anything to say about that? Tonight - what happens when those | :00:11. | :00:20. | |
responsible for your protection fail to act? Seek legal advice. | :00:20. | :00:25. | |
started with a planning complaint which spiralled out of all control. | :00:25. | :00:30. | |
I thought that other people could believe what these agencies were | :00:30. | :00:33. | |
saying about me. The council has been heavily criticized in a | :00:33. | :00:36. | |
damning report. By refusing to accept the evidence the council | :00:36. | :00:39. | |
implied the complainants were dishonest. And there are questions | :00:39. | :00:48. | |
about how the police handled the case. Get out! Get out! Get out! | :00:48. | :00:58. | |
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Get out! Had you concluded she is the aggressor? Has there been a | :00:58. | :01:08. | |
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It was a dream and when we saw the cottage, it did what look nice on | :01:24. | :01:31. | |
the internet but when we came here it was so pretty and it was | :01:31. | :01:35. | |
everything I wanted, the cottage was sweet. The garden was pretty. | :01:35. | :01:44. | |
The land was perfect. We were delighted to find this place | :01:44. | :01:52. | |
because it is ideal. Nine years ago, Trish and her partner Eddie moved | :01:52. | :01:59. | |
to Carmarthenshire. We want to have a cattery. The cattery would have | :01:59. | :02:03. | |
led to other things and we could have taken in some rescue animals, | :02:03. | :02:11. | |
that's what we wanted. A good life, yes. I suppose, yes, you could call | :02:11. | :02:19. | |
it that. We had every intention of staying. I would have stayed here | :02:19. | :02:23. | |
until I had been carried out, probably. But Trisha and Eddie's | :02:23. | :02:33. | |
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dream of the Good Life was soon shattered. We became aware of the | :02:34. | :02:42. | |
nuisance straightaway. We had noise, noise, noise. Digging around in the | :02:42. | :02:50. | |
quarry area... To haulage activities, to maintenance on | :02:50. | :02:55. | |
vehicles. All kinds of noises that should not really have been taking | :02:55. | :03:03. | |
place on a so-called farm. And the numbers of lorries that were there | :03:03. | :03:07. | |
were a clear indication of a haulage yard. When they bought the | :03:07. | :03:10. | |
cottage the couple were only able to visit it in the middle of the | :03:10. | :03:16. | |
day, when all was quiet. Before buying this, we have looked into | :03:16. | :03:19. | |
whether Ron not there were any industrial activities around and | :03:19. | :03:24. | |
about. -- whether or not. We were told by the council there were none. | :03:25. | :03:28. | |
We thought it was a farmer but it wasn't a farm. The neighbours, | :03:28. | :03:31. | |
Andrew Thomas and his partner Karen, who's since died, were running a | :03:31. | :03:35. | |
haulage company without planning permission. Trisha and Eddie rang | :03:35. | :03:41. | |
Carmarthenshire Council and complained to a planning officer. | :03:41. | :03:46. | |
The response was, well, I don't think anything untoward is going on. | :03:46. | :03:50. | |
It is a farm. When I tried to explain that there were things | :03:50. | :03:55. | |
going on but are not conducive to being a farm, I was told we will | :03:55. | :04:00. | |
investigate all monitor and keep an eye on it. Did she feel you're | :04:00. | :04:06. | |
taken seriously? No, not at all. I felt he was fobbing me off. He did | :04:06. | :04:10. | |
not want to deal with my complaints. The council suggested that the | :04:10. | :04:13. | |
couple and Eddie gather evidence themselves. They filmed lorries | :04:13. | :04:21. | |
leaving from 6am and work going on into the early hours. They gave the | :04:21. | :04:26. | |
video to Carmarthenshire Council, hoping it would take action. | :04:26. | :04:30. | |
Looking back to that period - it was 2004 - it's clear that if only | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
the council had acted on Trish and Eddie's complaints then, the couple | :04:33. | :04:41. | |
might have been spared the nightmare that was to come. Now the | :04:41. | :04:43. | |
council has been strongly criticized in this stinging report | :04:43. | :04:53. | |
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just released by the office that monitors Welsh public services. | :04:56. | :05:00. | |
difficulty is if you don't tackle them early, they have a tendency | :05:00. | :05:06. | |
not to go away but to get worse. If enforcement had happened, the | :05:06. | :05:13. | |
subject matter of much of the dispute would not have existed. And | :05:13. | :05:17. | |
although it is only speculation, the likelihood is that the | :05:17. | :05:21. | |
extremely the vitriolic nature of the neighbour dispute would not | :05:21. | :05:26. | |
have been as it was. The couple couldn't understand why that | :05:26. | :05:29. | |
Carmarthenshire council didn't stop the lorries. So they put in a | :05:29. | :05:35. | |
freedom of information request to find out more about the case. They | :05:35. | :05:38. | |
were shocked to discover they weren't the first to be bothered by | :05:38. | :05:40. | |
the lorries. Council records revealed a catalogue of complaints | :05:40. | :05:46. | |
going back two years before they moved in. In the files Mrs Breckman | :05:46. | :05:49. | |
found several logs of lorry movements kept by a previous owner | :05:49. | :05:59. | |
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of their cottage and by a neighbour. 30th, 2002. Three haulage lorries, | :06:01. | :06:07. | |
or 9pm, three haulage lorries, one in a lock-up, one with Crane, | :06:07. | :06:15. | |
6:00pm, haulage lorry loaded with rocks. 4:00pm... Margaret Rees is | :06:15. | :06:18. | |
one of several neighbours who wrote more than once to the council's | :06:18. | :06:25. | |
planning department. There would be diggers and they were building | :06:25. | :06:29. | |
sheds for the lorries so there was a lot of noise in that respect but | :06:29. | :06:35. | |
also the noise of the lorries going back and forth, people shouting. I | :06:35. | :06:40. | |
stopped walking with the dogs because they were so large, the | :06:40. | :06:43. | |
lorries, and it is quite dangerous. She told the council there were | :06:43. | :06:47. | |
five lorries on the site, but they refused to accept there were that | :06:47. | :06:52. | |
many. Nothing happened, that carried on for quite a number of | :06:52. | :07:02. | |
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years. I would say they didn't have This view is echoed by Clive | :07:05. | :07:08. | |
Cochrane. Two years ago he was brought in as a government | :07:08. | :07:12. | |
inspector to look at a planning appeal to do with the site, some | :07:12. | :07:17. | |
nine years after complaints began. I gather from the evidence that the | :07:17. | :07:23. | |
haulage business had grown over a number of years. It had probably | :07:23. | :07:27. | |
grown through a lack of attention from the local authority, to be | :07:27. | :07:33. | |
honest. I got better impression. They turned a blind eye to two | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
lorries so if someone saw a lorry coming in and out, but could be one | :07:38. | :07:42. | |
of the lorries. By do know. They turned a blind eye. The lorries | :07:42. | :07:44. | |
kept running and the couple kept complaining. They carried on | :07:44. | :07:50. | |
gathering their evidence but the council refused to accept it. | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
Apparently there were numerous site visits over the years but they did | :07:53. | :08:00. | |
not find evidence of anything I was complaining about. The planners | :08:00. | :08:04. | |
said Mr Thomas was entitled to bring a lorry home because his main | :08:04. | :08:08. | |
haulage site was elsewhere. The farm, they insisted, was | :08:08. | :08:12. | |
agricultural which is not what the council said. They' d applied for | :08:12. | :08:14. | |
permission to build a shed for agricultural storage, but the | :08:14. | :08:17. | |
council refused, saying there was insufficient evidence to show it | :08:17. | :08:27. | |
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qualified for agricultural use. The shed was built and another one but | :08:28. | :08:34. | |
these were allowed on condition they reduced agriculture. -- they | :08:34. | :08:40. | |
were used for agriculture. The Ombudsman says that this process | :08:40. | :08:43. | |
was flawed because it didn't give Mrs Breckman and Mr Roberts a | :08:43. | :08:46. | |
chance to oppose the sheds through the planning system. They had to | :08:46. | :08:48. | |
live with the truck movements, the buildings going up without planning | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
consent, and all of that had a major impact on them as individuals, | :08:51. | :08:55. | |
their health and well-being. What started as an argument over a | :08:55. | :09:03. | |
haulage business was taking a new and disturbing turn. Be warned | :09:03. | :09:12. | |
about back camera. The couple's lifeline to the outside world is | :09:12. | :09:18. | |
this lane through the Thomases land. The couple had a legal right of | :09:18. | :09:27. | |
access, but it was about to become In May 2005 the Thomases narrowed | :09:27. | :09:36. | |
the lane with motorway crash barriers and put in extra gates. | :09:36. | :09:43. | |
property. It is my property. are harassing me, go away. You are | :09:43. | :09:50. | |
intimidatingly. Go away. You! are videoing me. Go away, you | :09:50. | :09:56. | |
stupid man. Go away. I have my rights. It is my gate and my | :09:56. | :10:01. | |
property. Dates have not been on the land for 20 years. Having | :10:01. | :10:06. | |
narrowed it and put the crash barriers up was very intimidating. | :10:06. | :10:12. | |
And to put two gates which were boarded over, it felt as though | :10:12. | :10:18. | |
they were dictating we would stay down here, when we came home we | :10:18. | :10:26. | |
would enter our property on their terms, not ours. I am moving | :10:26. | :10:36. | |
animals. I opened the gate to go out. It had a devastating affect | :10:36. | :10:41. | |
psychologically. It was horrific. The Thomases also started building | :10:41. | :10:45. | |
right next to the couple's cottage. Inside, the couple kept filming. | :10:45. | :10:48. | |
They believed that their camcorder and a CCTV system which they had | :10:48. | :10:55. | |
set up - the evidence of harassment would be all too clear. Right on | :10:55. | :10:59. | |
the boundary line the Thomases also put up a wooden board to block the | :10:59. | :11:02. | |
view from the couple's bedroom window, a cockerel and an old | :11:02. | :11:12. | |
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removal van. Not what to call friendly. It is harassment. It was | :11:16. | :11:20. | |
put here to harass and annoy. there was worse to come - the lane | :11:20. | :11:30. | |
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has become the front line. You are obstructing my right of way. | :11:37. | :11:47. | |
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Anything to say about that? Mr Roberts... Seek some legal advice. | :11:52. | :11:58. | |
How is that? A nice bit of violence, you hit me in the face. But his | :11:58. | :12:06. | |
assault. Don't tell lies. You push that into my face. You are a liar. | :12:06. | :12:14. | |
It is not a nice way to live. It is very unpleasant. Very. Some people | :12:14. | :12:23. | |
would have packed up and left. cannot give in to police. -- | :12:23. | :12:26. | |
bullies. In desperation, Trish and Eddie went to ask their Assembly | :12:26. | :12:32. | |
Member for help. He wrote to the council on their behalf. The way in | :12:32. | :12:41. | |
which they decided to look at the case coloured influence and | :12:41. | :12:51. | |
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decisions they took. If I was you, I would be worried. If I was as low | :12:53. | :12:57. | |
as you two, underwent you crawled out of England. The couple appealed | :12:57. | :13:01. | |
to the police for help and protection but in vain. The police | :13:01. | :13:08. | |
were not helpful. I expected them to at least say it we would talk to | :13:08. | :13:13. | |
them or something, given there had been history. But they didn't. They | :13:13. | :13:19. | |
were just very non-committal, were not at all helpful and certainly | :13:19. | :13:29. | |
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The couple kept calling the police. A meeting took place here at | :13:43. | :13:50. | |
council headquarters between planners and Dyfed Powys Police. | :13:50. | :13:53. | |
According to the Ombudsman's report, the meeting hear that all the | :13:53. | :13:55. | |
planning complaints had been investigated and complaints to | :13:55. | :13:58. | |
police had been mostly about civil, not criminal matters. Even worse | :13:58. | :14:00. | |
for the couple, they were accused of making possibly malicious | :14:00. | :14:03. | |
complaints. Rhodri Glyn Thomas feels that the way the council was | :14:03. | :14:09. | |
handling this case could have influenced the views of others. | :14:09. | :14:14. | |
you hear a senior officers saying be very careful with these people, | :14:14. | :14:19. | |
they create problems, then that will naturally affect the way in | :14:19. | :14:26. | |
which you look at allegations which they take part in. Anyone seeing | :14:26. | :14:29. | |
that evidence and looking at it objectively would agree there was a | :14:29. | :14:34. | |
strong case for action. By refusing to accept the evidence they implied | :14:34. | :14:37. | |
the complainants were dishonest and they made that view known to other | :14:37. | :14:47. | |
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agencies. I felt dirty by a head, I felt soiled by a out. Mud sticks, | :14:54. | :14:57. | |
and the thought that other people could believe what these agencies | :14:57. | :15:03. | |
were saying about me was so deeply hurtful, I cannot even begin to put | :15:03. | :15:06. | |
it into words. The confrontations continued and | :15:07. | :15:09. | |
the couple kept sending their video evidence to the police. But to | :15:10. | :15:12. | |
their astonishment they found that they were being accused of | :15:12. | :15:14. | |
harassment. Trisha Breckman was arrested 6 times and given three | :15:15. | :15:19. | |
police warning in two years. She was charged several times and was | :15:19. | :15:23. | |
even convicted by local magistrates. But when she appealed all charges | :15:23. | :15:28. | |
were dropped and the conviction was overturned. The most distressing | :15:28. | :15:35. | |
incident occurred in May 2007. Andrew Thomas can be seen driving a | :15:35. | :15:44. | |
horse down the lane through the gate and onto the couple's property. | :15:44. | :15:48. | |
Mrs Breckman just manages to get out of the way. At the time she | :15:48. | :15:52. | |
needed a hip replacement. She tries to send the horse back up the lane. | :15:52. | :16:02. | |
But he drives it down again. Karen Thomas appears, armed with her own | :16:02. | :16:12. | |
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video camera. Get off of my property. A non I 99! 999, now | :16:20. | :16:30. | |
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please! Because she was going to walk into me, I put out to my left | :16:30. | :16:35. | |
hand to say do not come any closer to me. Just stay at that distance | :16:35. | :16:39. | |
because they knew where she came barging into me, I would have | :16:39. | :16:49. | |
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fallen over. I can hold you back. That is, are sold! To not to come | :16:53. | :17:03. | |
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into my space! That is, an assault! Police, please! I had been | :17:04. | :17:14. | |
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assaulted! You're in my space, get out! Get out! Get out! Get Howard! | :17:19. | :17:21. | |
The police arrived, but after a tense discussion in the cottage, | :17:21. | :17:27. | |
the result was not the one she anticipated. I said please wait | :17:27. | :17:31. | |
until Eddie comes home. With that, he just handcuffed me and told me | :17:31. | :17:41. | |
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Trisha Breckman was brought here to Carmarthen police station to be | :17:41. | :17:49. | |
questioned, where she was read a statement by Karen Thomas. They say | :17:49. | :17:53. | |
that as a result of you opening the lower gates and causing the animal | :17:53. | :17:56. | |
to startle by making a noise that the animal got free and entered | :17:56. | :18:04. | |
your property is that correct? comment. We showed the footage to | :18:04. | :18:08. | |
Mrs Breckman's AM. He was astonished that she was the one who | :18:08. | :18:17. | |
had been arrested. I do not know how you could come to the | :18:17. | :18:21. | |
conclusion that she is the aggressor on this kind of a | :18:21. | :18:28. | |
situation. He is clearly sending this animal down, isn't he? This is | :18:28. | :18:33. | |
the difficulty, to try and decide how people came to these decisions | :18:33. | :18:39. | |
based on the evidence that was available. Trisha Breckman was kept | :18:39. | :18:42. | |
on bail for eight weeks then the charge of assaulting Karen Thomas | :18:42. | :18:46. | |
was dropped. Dyfed Powys Police declined our request for an | :18:46. | :18:50. | |
interview but in a statement they said... Our previous reviews of | :18:50. | :18:53. | |
police involvement have revealed that the actions of individual | :18:53. | :18:57. | |
officers have been reasonable. Our conclusions are supported by review | :18:57. | :19:00. | |
by ourselves and other agencies such as the Crown Prosecution | :19:00. | :19:08. | |
Service and the Independent Police The couple's AM, says there is | :19:08. | :19:17. | |
something wrong here and he wants senior officers to review the case. | :19:17. | :19:20. | |
Have have asked the acting chief Constable to look at this again, | :19:20. | :19:26. | |
the allegations, the incidents that took place, but they do not want to | :19:26. | :19:30. | |
prejudge anything that she would decide about this. I think there is | :19:30. | :19:34. | |
sufficient evidence to look again. Since moving to Carmarthenshire | :19:34. | :19:37. | |
from Sussex, the couple's fight with the council took over their | :19:37. | :19:44. | |
lives. These two pensioners never gave up their campaign. As bleak as | :19:44. | :19:50. | |
this period was, 2008 did bring some good news. They brought a | :19:50. | :19:53. | |
civil action against the Thomases and won significant concessions out | :19:53. | :20:03. | |
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of court. They had to remove the gates. They had to widen the lane, | :20:06. | :20:11. | |
take off the middle gate, unboard the top gate and leave it open. | :20:11. | :20:14. | |
They had to sign a declaration they would not her Rassau intimidate us | :20:14. | :20:20. | |
in that area. It was wonderful to see brigades gone so we could drive | :20:20. | :20:25. | |
in and out in peace. But their sense of relief was only short- | :20:25. | :20:27. | |
lived. They made a disturbing discovery. Carmarthenshire Council | :20:27. | :20:36. | |
had, without telling them, put the couple on an internal blacklist. | :20:36. | :20:41. | |
You cannot just say, you worry come pleats consistent complainer, there | :20:41. | :20:48. | |
has to be something to go with that. Asked four times in all and | :20:48. | :20:53. | |
eventually I was sent their persistent complainant policy. | :20:53. | :20:55. | |
way the couple were put on the council's persistent complainers | :20:55. | :21:03. | |
list draws strong criticism from the Ombudsman. They Procedures sets | :21:03. | :21:08. | |
out how to assess this and how you go to fire person that their | :21:08. | :21:12. | |
complaint is persistent and not justified and the steps that are | :21:12. | :21:16. | |
taking to show you will not engage with that person in the future. | :21:16. | :21:20. | |
They just did not do what they were supposed to do, they did not follow | :21:20. | :21:26. | |
the road policy. Essentially the outcome was wrong. The Ombudsman | :21:26. | :21:29. | |
also criticised the fact that the council had meetings to review the | :21:29. | :21:31. | |
couple's status as persistent complainers and didn't tell them | :21:31. | :21:33. | |
the outcome. The council also blocked them from emailing all | :21:33. | :21:40. | |
Carmarthenshire Councillors. Then a development changed everything and | :21:40. | :21:46. | |
it came from an unexpected direction. Andrew Thomas had | :21:46. | :21:54. | |
started another business on Blaenpant Farm. There were | :21:54. | :22:03. | |
complaints the council took action. They served in enforcement notice | :22:03. | :22:06. | |
to stop this. Andrew Thomas appealed but that turned out to be | :22:06. | :22:10. | |
a mistake. His appeal triggered a public inquiry presided over by a | :22:10. | :22:14. | |
Government Inspector. At issue was what Mr Thomas liked to call a | :22:14. | :22:20. | |
storage area. But his neighbours said it was a scrap yard. | :22:20. | :22:22. | |
Carmarthenshire's planners asked the inspector to confine his | :22:22. | :22:31. | |
inquiry to just this part of the activities on Mr Thomas's farm. The | :22:31. | :22:36. | |
inspector disagreed. I was unsure if it was an active discouragement | :22:36. | :22:40. | |
or just a mistake on their part. Certainly, it wasn't in their | :22:40. | :22:45. | |
interests for me to look at the whole farm. It was in their | :22:45. | :22:51. | |
interest for me to just assess the storage area in isolation. By | :22:51. | :22:55. | |
questioned the council's evidence heard they said there was no | :22:55. | :22:59. | |
planning history to the site, simply because I thought that was | :22:59. | :23:04. | |
planning history for the whole agricultural unit. The inspector | :23:04. | :23:10. | |
insisted on looking at the whole site. It is about 60 hectors and | :23:10. | :23:16. | |
most of that was in agricultural use. Certainly, the grazing of | :23:16. | :23:20. | |
animals and the cropping of pay, that is agriculture road. But it | :23:20. | :23:24. | |
was the farmyard itself that I found was not in agricultural use. | :23:24. | :23:30. | |
Inside, in one of the modern sheds, there was a lorry after a lorry | :23:30. | :23:36. | |
after a lorry. About 10 of them. There was another yard facing onto | :23:36. | :23:40. | |
the property which had another array of vehicles, nothing to do | :23:40. | :23:47. | |
with farming. I got the impression that neither the yard or the quarry | :23:47. | :23:52. | |
area at or the sheds were what you might call in agricultural use. If | :23:52. | :23:58. | |
anything, the haulage business had taken over and therefore, I can't | :23:58. | :24:02. | |
confirm that everything that Patricia and her partner had been | :24:02. | :24:07. | |
saying. The council says that they made numerous visits to the site | :24:07. | :24:10. | |
and could only act within planning law on the basis of existing | :24:10. | :24:13. | |
evidence. When the chief planning office visited the site in 2010, | :24:13. | :24:16. | |
after viewing Mrs Breckman's video, he says he saw a lorry in one | :24:16. | :24:19. | |
building and there wasn't anything that convinced him that there was a | :24:19. | :24:27. | |
material change of use to a depot. But Mr Bowen had been there six | :24:27. | :24:37. | |
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months before? Fourth he came to a very different conclusion. It is | :24:38. | :24:43. | |
surprising, but they do not know what he saw. I cannot answer that | :24:43. | :24:46. | |
question about what was there at that time. He must have seen a | :24:46. | :24:52. | |
lorry business going on. He must have seen a certain amount of scrap | :24:52. | :24:57. | |
vehicles and lorries. There was all sorts going on there. For Mr | :24:57. | :25:00. | |
Cochrane turned down Andrew Thomas' appeal. It was the most important | :25:00. | :25:03. | |
moment for the couple, because they then took the findings of his | :25:03. | :25:06. | |
inquiry to the Ombudsman and he agreed to investigate the whole | :25:06. | :25:10. | |
case. His report said the council was guilty of maladministration and | :25:10. | :25:20. | |
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he found that the couple had suffered an injustice. There was a | :25:21. | :25:25. | |
succession of opportunities to address these issues, and each of | :25:25. | :25:29. | |
them was missed in turn. The council was taking views that are | :25:29. | :25:34. | |
not supported by the facts and state to give you 1 the character | :25:34. | :25:38. | |
of the complainants which was not justified in doing this. There are | :25:38. | :25:43. | |
many things that should have been brought to a head and dealt with. | :25:43. | :25:45. | |
The Ombudsman concluded that the council should make a fulsome | :25:45. | :25:48. | |
apology to the couple, that it should address the enforcement | :25:48. | :25:51. | |
issues arising from the haulage business at Blaenpant. And that it | :25:51. | :25:53. | |
should re-consider the whole way it deals with planning enforcement | :25:53. | :26:03. | |
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cases. The couple felt they had been vindicated. Absolute relief, | :26:05. | :26:10. | |
because yet again, my complaints and my allegations were all found | :26:10. | :26:14. | |
to be absolutely honest and truthful. The last few years have | :26:14. | :26:17. | |
been quiet on the lane. But there are still a lot of unanswered | :26:17. | :26:27. | |
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questions. Why did the council allow the Thomases to run their | :26:28. | :26:31. | |
business for ten years without planning permission? Why did they | :26:31. | :26:34. | |
stick to their claim that there were no more than two lorries there, | :26:34. | :26:37. | |
when there was evidence there were many more? And why did they smear | :26:37. | :26:41. | |
Trisha and Eddie? We wanted to put these and other questions to | :26:41. | :26:44. | |
Carmarthenshire Council but they declined to be interviewed. But the | :26:44. | :26:47. | |
statement they did give us shows they still think this was a simple | :26:48. | :26:51. | |
dispute between neighbours. The Authority has agreed to the | :26:51. | :26:53. | |
Ombudsman's recommendations and will be implementing them within | :26:53. | :26:57. | |
the timescales identified. Disputes between neighbours on planning | :26:57. | :26:59. | |
matters are always problematic and it is impossible to satisfy both | :26:59. | :27:09. | |
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Not good enough according to the local AM who says after this case | :27:12. | :27:15. | |
and others, there needs to be a thorough inquiry into the council's | :27:15. | :27:25. | |
planning procedures. A public inquiry would be the best way to do | :27:25. | :27:29. | |
it, let them explain how they came to some of these conclusions. I | :27:29. | :27:34. | |
think a lot of people feel that they need that opportunity to have | :27:34. | :27:39. | |
that are open discussion in public. I think there is now sufficient | :27:39. | :27:46. | |
evidence to do so. Neighbour disputes happen all the time. | :27:46. | :27:51. | |
Nearly every enforcement cases and neighbour dispute, but not like | :27:51. | :27:57. | |
this, where there has been a justified complaint a ignored. It | :27:57. | :28:03. | |
is the first, have come across this, however. And I was an inspector for | :28:03. | :28:12. | |
24 years. It has destroyed our dreams and our future and we have | :28:12. | :28:18. | |
lost 11 years of our retirement to just misery. But council have | :28:18. | :28:22. | |
provided the couple with some compensation and issued an apology, | :28:22. | :28:26. | |
but Patricia says it is not good enough. Abalone have peace of mind | :28:26. | :28:33. | |
when the people involved, that is the council and the police, have | :28:33. | :28:37. | |
apologised to me properly. And I mean properly and publicly, when | :28:38. | :28:44. | |
somebody says to me, it misses back man, because it's so wrong. And we | :28:44. | :28:50. | |
are so sorry. That is what I want to here. Just days ago, the | :28:50. | :28:53. |