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Wales has been hit by a summer of flash floods. It took three months

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to draw it out properly. Mid-thigh height. Homes and businesses ruined.

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The odds are there is more of this to come. So the bad news in terms

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of flooding it can only get considerably worse. Are we making

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matters worse, where we build? a disastrous policy to build on

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flood plains, why don't you stop? Who will pick up the bill if

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insurers pull the plug? The only way to get insurance is maybe to go

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Hardly a day seems to have gone by without rain. But for some

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communities, it's been even worse, having to deal with the devastating

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consequences of flooding, as they know only too clearly in Mid Wales.

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Devastated, shocked. I've just decorated it all and had new carpet.

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People who've lived here for years, say they've never seen anything

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like it. It's getting worse, not better at the moment. It's

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overwhelmed three cottages coming right through. That's my car half

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under water in the front garden. I'm just exhausted, you know,

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Out the back here, this is where the water was cascading over, like

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a water fall. It brought the wall down either side. It's lucky the

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wall never caved in when anyone was walking along here. I dread to

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think what would have happened, the weight of it. Do you find that

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unnerving to see that and reflect on that? I heard it go. There was a

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horrible thump and a thud and the whole of the building shook. I

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could have still be in that bed or the whole house could have been

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inundated. Yeah, I feel sorry for people who've come off worse than

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me. Mike was lucky to get out. Next door, Beverley Jones and her five-

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year-old daughter almost didn't. The water level was a couple of

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feet up. There was also water in the house at this point. You were

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on the inside? Yes, I was. Pulling on the door, not getting anywhere?

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No. Was that frightening? It was. Especially when I heard the thud

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and the bang that the retaining wall out the back made. There was a

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fireman trying to get into the kitchen window. But it's very small,

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so he couldn't get in. There were three firemen stood outside. They

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managed to open the door and with that the gush of twhaurt came in

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was incredible. Due feel as if your life was at risk at that point?

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did. Within an hour, people living in these cottages saw their homes

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ruined. They weren't alone. In total a thousand people across Mid

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Wales were affected. Winching in. Steady there.

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The news cameras have gone, but for those affected, the story is far

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from over. They all want to know why they were hit so hard by floods

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The people of Ceredigion might think they've been very unlucky,

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after all more than a month's rain fell in one day and that's not

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supposed to happen. It was an unprecedented event, a freak, no-

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one could remember anything like it. The truth is that it fits into a

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worrying trend. I'm talking about climate change and one of the

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world's leading experts lives just around the corner. Sir John

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Houghton chaired the international panel on change. It drafted its

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first ground-breaking reports, warnings accepted by governments

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worldwide. His message today remains stark. Some people in the

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political world seem unwilling to accept how bad it is likely to be.

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They should look at our documents. They should look at the IPCC's work.

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Nearly everything that we've said, things are in the upper side of the

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estimates that we made. The rain will tend to come down in bigger

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dollops with more intensity. The likelihood is by the middle of the

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century on average around the globe, an increase in the risk of floods

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and droughts of the order of a factor of five. That's a very large

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number. The odds are shortening and The Environment Agency too have

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some startling predictions about the effect of climate change and

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development on the numbers at high risk in Wales. They're predicting

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by the end of the century Newport will see numbers at risk of

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flooding double from 6,000 to 12,000 in. Cardiff, from a couple

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of hundred to 4,000 plus. Even inland, the towns of Risca and

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Ystwyth Medical Centre, the risk will triple. Swansea will also see

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numbers almost double. Llanelli and Port Talbot are already with

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thousands of homes at risks in. North Wales, Rhyl will see numbers

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jumping from 3,500 to 5,000. Overall, numbers of properties at

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risk in Wales will double. That's just those that are most at risk.

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It might be all too easy to think it's only those people who live

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close to rivers or in low lying coastal areas that have a problem,

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but the Environment Agency has told us that in Wales, 600,000 people,

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that's one in five of us, live in properties that are vulnerable to

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flooding. With climate change threatening to put more at risk,

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the issue is concentrating the minds of those who are trying to

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keep us safe. This summer, we've seen a great deal of rainfall, you

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know the highest on record, so flooding has been a challenge for

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us this year. I think we need to be prepared for it as a challenge in

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the future. Our main lounge. As you can see, it's a bit of a state at

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the moment. Local Councillor Gareth Davies is rebuilding his house. He

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and his neighbours on the outskirts of Aberystwyth saw their homes

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flooded for the first time. I have doubts as to the wisdom of

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developing on flood plains. We've seen from areas of Aberystwyth that

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if you build on a natural flood plain, then that water has to go

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somewhere else. Flood water normally runs into the field

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opposite. He believes the increasing development in the area

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is putting his property at greater risk. Things may even get worse.

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There are discussions taking place at the moment, as I understand,

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with a developer of buying all these fields up here as residential

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homes. In a word, what would you think of that? Madness. Salute

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madness. You have to question the future of any such development, to

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be honest, not only in this field here, but further down the valley

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as well. You know, I can show you photos of 30, 40 years ago. It was

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even under water then. An aerial view of the area shows just how

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much the town's flood plain has changed. In the 70s this is still

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an area of green fields. Today, some of the fields are still there,

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but so are developments of housing, offices and shops. Professor Mark

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Macklynis is an expert on river flows at the internationally

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aclaimed earth studies department at Aberystwyth. He has released a

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report into why the recent floods were so devastating and one reason

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stands out. We've got the flood plain map in 1906, showing the

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urban areas in grey. We can pack out Llanbadarn Fawr. And the blue?

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That's the Environment Agency's 100 year flood limits. This is where

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it's likely to flood. Exactly. Let's bring it to the modern day.

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This is the situation in the present, exactly the same scale.

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can see the blue area is full of development. It is. Unfortunately.

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Both in terms of new housing, supermarkets, and also the

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industrial estate as well. Should they be there? In my view, no.

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They're exposing folk to increased flood risk in a way that shouldn't

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be the case. What is the consequence of building on a flood

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plain? The consequence, as you clearly see here, is that the

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people who live here is exposed to greater flood risk. A consequence

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of that development itself actually changes the flood risk both up and

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down stream. So there's actually a two-fold effect. The surgery

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remains closed after it was submerged on Saturday. The doctors

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and nurses have relocated to another site. I got a phone call

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from the practice manager saying you have to get to the surgery now.

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I came down here with my husband to be met with a scene of devastation.

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This GP Medical Centre is in the middle of that flood plain

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development. It's so severely damaged that it can't be re-

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occupied until February next year. When a development like this is

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being considered, we think the people who know, the people with

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the expertise in flooding, in planning etc will take these things

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into account. We perhaps believed too readily their judgments,

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without actually considering the sort of more simple facts of this

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was a flood plain and it's acted as a flood plane as a millennia and to

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build on it will have consequences. Approval for building here on flood

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plains came from the local Council. Their offices are just across the

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road from the GP surgery. It's all too tempting, if you can create

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jobs, if you can build communities to just turn a blind eye, on the

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basis that, well, it may not happen for another 100 years, so let's go

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ahead and do it any way. I hope it doesn't happen for another 100

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years. Buff I take your point. The trouble is, quite often in rural,

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hilly areas, mountainous areas like Wales, quite often the only places

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available to develop happen to be on valley floors. You're caught

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between the devil and the deep blue sea. If you develop on the flood

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plains you might well end up in the deep blue sea. That's really what

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nobody wants. Exactly, I totally agree with you. It's a dilemma for

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all councils. We need more housing, more offices, more business space

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and even GPs surgeries. They have to go somewhere. In Scotland, they

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have a firmer view on how much development their flood plains can

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take. Here, the risk of building on flood plains was brought home

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vividly 20 years ago by an event that happened in Perth. By morning,

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the full extent of the flood damage could be seen. These are playing

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fields. The tips of the goal posts just visible. David Crichton is one

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of the leading authorities on flood risk insurance. Where did the water

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come to? The top of the door, about two experts. He and other experts

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were asked to find ways of minimising the risk of flooding.

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The groups of people involving insurers, property developers and

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planners came together and said, this is silly, it's crazy to

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continue building in flood risk areas, let's just stop it. The

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property developers were not very happy. But faced with the

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onslaught,if you like, of the planners, worried about their

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liabilities and ensurers worried about the high risk, they

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eventually stopped. I think the compassion overcomes the desire for

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economic growth. Along with the damage that flooding brings, there

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is also personal trauma. Beverley and her daughter survived the flood

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in their house they share with their mother. This is your

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environment and you feel safe, you know, whatever you choose or

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wherever you choose your environment, you feel safe in that.

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And it hit me like a brick wall. I went over to the doctors and you

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know, and she said no, you've just experienced, this is the last straw

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that broke the camel's back. Traumatic stress? Yes, I have 37

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boxes of stuff, personal things that you've got that you've been

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and put out with family or with friends. It's like a huge jigsaw

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puzzle. You're very vulnerable because you have lost your

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This was the lounge. There was carpet. I had a table and four

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chairs there, three-piece suite. the corner? Yeah and Welsh dresser

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in that corner, television, you know, a nice, I hadn't long

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decorated in here. It had all just been o done. I'm looking forward to

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getting back in me home, once it's all done up. But I will have a

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certain amount of apprehension, you know, should another event like

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this ever happen again. It does prey on your mind, obviously. I

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wouldn't be telling the truth if I said otherwise. When the increasing

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effects of flooding became all too clear, in 2004, the Welsh

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Government decided to take action. It passed a new regulation,

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technical advice note 15, or TAN15. It's planning guidance from the

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Government which is trying to make sure that we're not adding to this

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problem. A lot of development has taken place in the flood plain, but

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going forward, we need to make sure we're not adding to that. It spells

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out clearly that homes should not be built on flood plains. But Week

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In Week Out has discovered that the new law seems to have had little

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effect. When TAN15 came in half of applications sunted to the

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Environment Agency in Wales were still given permission. The

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following year that figure dropped as the new law hit home. By 2011,

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development was once again just as likely to be given the go ahead as

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before. In fact, since TAN15 was passed 745 schemes have been built

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in flood risk areas. So what's changed? Well, it seems, that this

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might have made a difference. It's a circular written by Carwyn Jones

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when he was environment minister in Wales in 2006. It serves to clarify

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the new law governing building on flood plains. It includes some

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telling points for the Environment Agency in Wales. In one key

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paragraph Mr Jones says he only expects the agency to object where

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it is appropriate to do so in flood Risk Management terms. Rather than

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as a matter of principle, therefore the Environment Agency may object

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not will object. It's very carefully worded. It

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appears, to me, to be telling the Environment Agency that they don't

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need to object to new development on the grounds of flood risk.

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What's your impression of such sentiments? I think it is

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irresponsible. Mr Jones's letter appears to have hit home. Since

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2006, the Environment Agency has been withdrawing outright

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objections, allowing adapted schemes to go ahead. So have they

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been warned off? I would refute that. As I say, we will provide our

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expert flood risk advice to the local authority and if necessary,

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we will object. Well, I put it to you that in 428 cases since you

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received that letter, you were advised -- you revised your

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objection. We looked to see whether or not the flood risk can be

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managed. If it can be, then that means that the flood risk can be

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avoided. Any sort of development on a flood plain is a seriously bad

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idea, isn't it? I think that's taking a rather extreme view. The

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sort of... Isn't that the point of TAN15? You need to look at the

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exact type of risk that you're dealing with. You need to be able

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to see whether or not you can actually manage that. But can that

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risk be managed? Mick and Jennie We're both kind of watery based

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people and like messing about with water. That's why we came to live

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in this area, because of the hills, the rivers an the sea. We get

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tremendous pleasure being in the environment and experiencing all

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these things. That included buying an idyllic cottage in tolly bont,

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complete with a river in the back - - Talybont, complete with a river

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in the back garden. We talked about it and thought we might get flooded,

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but I imagined two or three inches into the kitchen, not seven foot.

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Yes, it was a major wake-up call. Do you worry about that, though?

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Not particularly worry about it. Yeah. You do? I do, a bit. But I

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think it's focused our minds in working out how we live in this

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house in a different way. All our valuable stuff will be upstairs.

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There are things we can do. I'm in discussion with the highways

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department about the bridge, how to deal with the wall in front of the

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house. All these things may lessen the effect of a flood.

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community of Talybont is not alone in recognising the need to improve

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its flood defences. These are often seen as the solution. Many flood

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plains in Wales have them with millions being spent each year.

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That gets jammed with rubbish. stream at Llanbadarn Fawr a meeting

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organised by the Environment Agency is offering the community ideas and

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a possible defence solution. But at what cost? Funding is an issue. The

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Environment Agency have spoken about a cost of being about

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�100,000, which is not a great deal of money when you take into account

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the amount of insurance claims that have gone in. I would hope that

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Government would fund the flooding defences that are needed to sort

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our problem out. Of course, there is an issue of maintenance and that

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is an issue that needs to be addressed and fairly quickly I

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would suggest. The Environment Agency calculates that the money

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they're already spending on defences will have to increase

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three fold to meet future demand. All the agencies accept that's

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unrealistic yet councils keep giving permission to build, even

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against advice. Your Council has approved at least three other

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schemes, Capel Bangor, Penrhyn Coch, 2010, 2008, 2008. You're going back

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a few years now. I'm in the aware that those are huge developments.

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In fact they are developments on flood plains, against the advice of

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the Environment Agency. If they were, I'm very surprised. I'm Notts

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a member of that committee. I don't know the detail of these. I

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wouldn't be happy to see developments on flood plains now at

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all. As we continue to build, the stakes are being raised. The

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authorities say they accept that climate change is a reality, but is

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the real level of risk being passed on to the public? There is a very

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detailed flood map available on the Environment Agency's website. But

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is it telling us what we need to know? How would it look if

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Professor Houghton's prediction was factored in? If you talk of a

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factor of five, then one in 200 becomes one in 40. Instead of

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waiting 200 years for the next one, you wait 40. You have 50-year

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periods, it's one in ten years. That's a scary story for all of us,

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actually. If you include Professor Houghton's predictions this would

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be the result in Aberystwyth. This is the current tidal flood plain

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map for a one in 200 year event. But more extreme weather and a one

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metre rise in sea levels would see it grow to this. Add in river

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flooding, more people are going to be at risk more often. The website

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also surprisingly doesn't include much data on historical floods. If

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it did, it would be clear that the June floods were not as

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unprecedented as claimed. The 24 hour rainfall was about 146mm,

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that's only the sixth largest in the historical record in Wales. It

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doesn't come even in the top 15 for the UK. We have probably larger

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floods in the 1970s and 60s, but we didn't have the degree of

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development. What do you make of mapping that goes on, the

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Environment Agency will offer on their website, is it accurate?

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precise, but probably not accurate. As the Ystwyth Medical Centre found

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out. They were not listed on the map, so they didn't get a flood

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warning. I don't know if they got a warning. No they didn't. They

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weren't on a flood map. Since then they now are. Certainly in that

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area, many properties will have received a flood warning. What are

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those properties doing this in the first place? That, at the end of

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the day, the development is decided through the planning process. It's

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up to the local authority to decide whether or not developments goes

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ahead. The Environment Agency advise - it's the Welsh Government

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that draws up the rules. The minister in charge is John

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Griffiths. It's a disastrous policy to build on flood plains, why don't

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you stop it? We have a policy in place which does effectively stop

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development on flood plains. Do you know why Ceredigion was so badly

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flooded? It was an extreme weather event. Do you know about Professor

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Mark Macklynis and advises your Government? I spoke to local

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people... And told us that it's largely the flooding that took

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place on that flood plain was as a result of the development that had

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happened there? I spoke to local people who were aged over 80 years

:25:34.:25:38.

of age, who told me that they've never experienced flooding as they

:25:38.:25:41.

did this year, even though they'd lived in local communities affected

:25:41.:25:46.

for all of their lives. Are you aware of a letter that Carwyn Jones

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wrote when he was sitting in your chair as environment minister in

:25:50.:25:56.

2006? It was to the Environment Agency. In effect, it told them to

:25:56.:26:01.

ease off. I'm not aware of a letter that in effect told the Environment

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Agency to ease off. I am aware of a letter that clarified the role of

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the Environment Agency in terms of its statutory... He says "I would

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only expect the agency to object where it is appropriate to do in a

:26:14.:26:20.

flood management terms, rather than a matter of principle." What's that,

:26:20.:26:26.

if it's not telling them to ease off? I'm very cautious about

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selective quotations from long letters, may I say. It's not that

:26:29.:26:32.

long a letter. That's a selective quotation. There's much else in the

:26:32.:26:39.

letter as well. It's important that the Environment Agency as a

:26:39.:26:43.

statutory consultee full tills its responsibilities appropriately.

:26:43.:26:46.

Where that needs to be clarified by Welsh Government, it's important

:26:46.:26:52.

that happens. In Talybont the flood survivors meet regularly. Here,

:26:52.:26:58.

they're talking about insurance. now pay �140 a month. My insurance

:26:58.:27:03.

has gone up by �1200 a year because of this event. The insurance

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industry has an arrangement with the Government to cover high risk

:27:07.:27:11.

areas. That's under review. In 12 months' time I believe the

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statement of principles comes to an end. What that will mean for all

:27:16.:27:22.

our insurance beyond that 12 months, I don't know. After next year, when

:27:22.:27:25.

the insurance guarantee goes, Wales is going to be one of the first

:27:25.:27:31.

countries to suffer from blue lining in the UK. The only way for

:27:31.:27:37.

some of them to get flood insurance after that time may be to go to a

:27:37.:27:42.

betting shop. Because insurers regard the risk as so serious it's

:27:42.:27:47.

no longer insurance, it's a gamble. It's four months since the

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Ceredigion flooding and of the people we met, only Mike is back

:27:51.:27:57.

home. Today, we seem to be getting more and more floods, in parts of

:27:57.:28:01.

the country that have never been previously affected. The truth is

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that for more and more of us, this could be an all too familiar scene.

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I do come up on a daily basis to check. It's going to take a little

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time. I don't know when we'll be moving in.

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