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of looking after her. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
I worry - is my daughter still going to be alive | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
this time next year? | 0:00:06 | 0:00:07 | |
In foster care, the girl has been moved 17 times | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
in a search for the right home. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
Tonight we ask is this good enough for her and others in care in Wales? | 0:00:11 | 0:00:20 | |
I am aware that some children experience many moves | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
and I think that's very sad. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:23 | |
And we find out what happened to the girl behind the story | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
which shamed our care system more than 20 years ago | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
and led to calls for change. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:31 | |
They need to do what they can to help her so she don't | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
turn out like me. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
The mother at the centre of this story can't appear on camera | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
for legal reasons and we have to protect the identity | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
of her child, so actors will tell their story. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:54 | |
I was a single parent, we had everything we needed ? a nice life. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
My daughter is a very lovable little girl. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
But she doesn't like the word no, she couldn't handle it. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
My daughter hasn't lived with me for four years now. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:09 | |
Before she went into care she was having aggression outbursts. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
It was like walking on eggshells, didn't know | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
when it was going to happen. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
Sometimes it would last hours, others it would be over quick, | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
but sometimes her eyes would just glaze, she'd go pale | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
and you knew what was coming. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
She'd be making a grunting noise. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:35 | |
She would have the strength to rip mattresses off, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:42 | |
wardrobes ripped apart and smashed up and the chest of drawers - | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
everything was down the stairs, blinds, curtains, curtain poles. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
I used to try to keep her calm and talk her through it. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
She'd say she couldn't remember them rages. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:59 | |
It was a rage which I couldn't control, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
that's why I had to get help. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:02 | |
The mother was convinced her daughter had mental health issues. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
She asked social services for help. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:06 | |
She'd asked doctors - could the child have a form of autism? | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
She was told her daughter had behavioural issues. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
When she attacked her mother again, the girl was taken into care. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
I had no more strength, no more energy | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
and my whole house was in pieces. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
There was no more I could do. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
They just said they wanted to take her for six weeks and get | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
to the bottom of her behaviour and work with us as a family | 0:02:24 | 0:02:34 | |
and if we signed it voluntarily she'd come back. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
We thought it was all positive to help her. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
I didn't want her to go. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:45 | |
I couldn't cope. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:46 | |
She was kicking and screaming. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
The mother has never been accused of abusing | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
or neglecting her daughter. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
She says social workers accused her of treating her as a younger child, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
and criticised her for trying to get a medical diagnosis | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
for her behaviour. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:01 | |
They said the mother was part of the problem, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
and being in care would allow the girl to fulfil her potential. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:09 | |
They took her and within half an hour of them taking her I had | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
a phone call to say that there was a police search for her | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
and they had lost her already. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:17 | |
They'd taken her to the council offices ready for the | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
foster placement and they left her in the car. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
One social worker went to sort out the paperwork and the other social | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
worker was in the front of the car and she attacked that | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
social worker - beat her. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
She just ran. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
She got on a bus to get home. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
She was still in primary school and she got the bus home. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
We are not identifying where they live. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:53 | |
Since being taken away from her mother, the | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
girl has run away from one foster home after another. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
She's now on her 17th placement. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
Most have broken down because of her escalating behaviour. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:04 | |
She put herself at risk no matter where the social worker put her. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
She would get on a bus, she'd tell me she would cry | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
to the bus driver that she needed to get home and they | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
would just let her on. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
She'd hide in the toilets of trains too. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
The mother thought her child would receive behavioural therapies, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
but she says things got worse and she feared for her | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
safety in foster care. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
So how much responsibility does she take for what's | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
happened to her daughter? | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
I don't blame myself because this is what has always kept me going, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
I knew she was always loved and cared for. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
That's kept us fighting. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
I brought her up same as I was brought up. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
You know, you learn off your parents don't you? | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
I was brought up to know right from wrong, you know the word no. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
My mother's voice would be enough for me. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
The girl hasn't been to school regularly for two years. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
Instead she'd go missing. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
She's been caught shoplifting and when the violent outbursts | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
continued she was moved to a more secure unit. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
The council - which we are not identifying for legal reasons - | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
is investigating claims that she recently tried absconding | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
from the unit in the boot of a car and was found en-route to England. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:15 | |
The girl's mother says instead of being better protected, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
she is now at serious risk of harm because of the amount of times | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
she has been moved around. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:27 | |
She says her daughter has started smoking, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
drinking, using cannabis and is now at risk of | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
sexual exploitation - and this all happened | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
under the council's watch. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
The mother didn't know where to turn so she sought help from the | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
mental health charity MIND Cymru. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
I'm meeting the woman who acts as the mother's advocate. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
To protect the mother and daughter's identities, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
her words are spoken by someone else. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:48 | |
This is probably the worst case I have ever seen. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
She's been in a terrible state really because it's not | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
understanding how this could have happened. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
The family were law abiding people. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
They wanted help and they can't understand why they went for help | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
for their daughter and ended up losing her. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:08 | |
As someone outside the family, what was you impression of | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
the situation and their parenting? | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
I couldn't see anything horrendously wrong with the parenting. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
None of us are perfect, you know, we could all do things better, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
but I couldn't see anything wrong with their values. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
I couldn't see how this child has become this way. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:29 | |
As one foster placement after another broke down, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
the girl's behaviour got worse. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
She needed a therapeutic placement but the council said | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
it couldn't find one. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
It was always as if this is an emergency placement till | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
we find another one and now another emergency placement. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
You are talking about a child going into a family that, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
you know, there's your bed, there's the television, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
there's the internet if you are lucky and you behave. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
But there's no rules, no boundaries - not how parents are. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:04 | |
The advocate helped the mother complain to the council about why | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
the girl was missing so much school. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
When she was at home they did struggle getting her to school. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:15 | |
If she lived at home and she didn't go to school they'd be in trouble | 0:07:15 | 0:07:20 | |
but it's OK for her to say no to the social workers | 0:07:20 | 0:07:25 | |
or to the people in the placement and then its fine and we can't | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
force her - that's OK. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
It seems very much double standards. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
The council says this is a particularly challenging case | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
due to the child's non-engagement and that it's continuing | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
to address the issue. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
But when she wasn't in school, the girl was at risk on the streets. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:48 | |
She is very vulnerable in the way that she | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
is too trusting with people. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
She would go off with people who might do bad things | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
to her but just for the attention and I feel she is confused, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
I think she feels unloved, unwanted, no self esteem. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:03 | |
Just over two years after she was taken into care, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
the mother received disturbing news from social services. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
They told me there was an incident with some boys her own age, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
they were out playing, they said there'd been some sexual | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
contact and then in another incident another boy who was a bit older, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
sent indecent pictures of himself to her on Facebook, on her phone. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
Social workers told her that her child was now at risk | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
of sexual exploitation in the community and online. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:30 | |
Can you imagine how that made me feel? | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
I felt physically sick. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
Regardless of why she went into care, the council is accused | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
of failing in its duty to act as a good parent now that it's | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
responsible for the girl. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
This is probably the worst case I have ever seen, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
of a child being removed from a loving family | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
and not being nurtured. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
And being passed from pillar to post. | 0:08:54 | 0:09:00 | |
In Wales there are more than 5,600 children in care. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
For many it works. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
But last year around one in ten of them had to move | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
three or more times. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
That's something that raises serious concerns. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
I am meeting Lord Laming who has chaired independent reviews | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
into some of the UK's most high profile care scandals including | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
the Victoria Climbie inquiry. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
Just think what it means if every few months you go to live | 0:09:25 | 0:09:31 | |
in a different place with people you've never met before. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
One case we've been told about, 17 moves. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
What impact would that have on a child? | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
It gives the impression that nobody cares, that they don't matter, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
it gives the impression that the authorities are primarily | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
concerned primarily with giving them a bed to sleep in. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:54 | |
It's not about having a creative, individual care plan | 0:09:54 | 0:10:00 | |
that is going to say, this is this child's needs, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
this is how we're going to tackle these needs, and this is when we're | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
going to do it and we're going to do it now. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
Coming into care ought to be that trigger to change things around. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:15 | |
What happens if that isn't done? | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
What impact can that have on a child's life? | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
Well, they will be scarred for life, they will have continuing problems. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:26 | |
It's a terrible price to pay for failure. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:32 | |
Since the early 1990s there have been a number of scandals in Wales | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
which exposed failures in the care system. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
There've been warnings about what could happen to children | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
who slipped through the net. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
One case prompted the Sarah Report. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
These newspaper headlines from 1993 tell the story | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
of a 12-year-old girl in care, known as Sarah. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:55 | |
Her mum contacted the press because of the risks she faced | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
after she went into care. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
Much like the girl we've been told about, Sarah was running away, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
she wasn't going to school and she was drinking | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
and taking drugs. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:06 | |
Sarah ended up being sexually exploited. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:15 | |
Sarah was meant to be better protected in the care system. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
But back then, she was in real danger. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
She'd often be found in the city's former red light district. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:27 | |
Sarah used to run away from care and spend time here - | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
she sold sex to fund her drug habit. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
She was 12 years old. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:41 | |
For weeks we've been trying to find Sarah. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
She'd be 35 now. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
We wanted to know what life has been like for her since she left care | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
and what would she say to the girl who is at risk now. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
Eventually we found her and she agreed to speak to us. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
She's asked us not to identify her. | 0:11:54 | 0:12:02 | |
I been back and forth in prison out prison, in out, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
doing the same shit really. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
Sarah's life is still chaotic and dominated by drug abuse. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
I been smoking crack, I been smoking heroin. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
I been watching people jacking up in their groin, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
I been in the pubs drinking. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
You were the girl in the Sarah Report. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:19 | |
What difference did it make to you? | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
It didn't make a difference to me. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
I was going down that roller coaster and I wasn't coming back. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
The people reading the articles were led to believe that | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
things had improved. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
Nah, they was never improved, nothing ever improved. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
I was still on the streets selling my body taking drugs | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
and that report sitting on a shelf doing lock all. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:42 | |
Like the teenage girl who's still in care, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
Sarah kept being moved around the system. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
I went from a foster family to a children's home, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
just moved around really. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
Did you go to school when you were in care? | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
When you reflect on that time and your life generally | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
what could have made a difference, what could have helped you? | 0:13:23 | 0:13:33 | |
The girl's mother, just like Sarah's, was desperate | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
for care to do just that. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
But councils can struggle to find the right foster placement | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
because there aren't enough of them, especially for children | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
with challenging behaviour. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
She said once when we had to send her back to one | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
of the foster carers she'd had enough, she would rather jump | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
in front of a train than put up with it all and I was like, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
no, please don't say things like that. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:16 | |
We all love you and we are all fighting for you but | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
then it's let down after let down. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
The council told us some of the placements | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
were short term emergencies. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
Others broke down for other reasons, ranging from absconding | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
to assaults on staff. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
The mother says she's been warned her daughter | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
could end up in a secure unit if her behaviour doesn't improve. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:39 | |
It should never have got to this stage, she's had so many moves, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
how is that OK? | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
Care shouldn't be like this. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
Last year Welsh councils spent almost ?250 million on providing | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
services for looked-after children. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
Foster care can cost between ?23,000 and ?43,000 a year. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:01 | |
But if that doesn't work, it can cost even more. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
The cost of keeping a child in a young offender institution - | 0:15:05 | 0:15:11 | |
?60,000 a year. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
The cost of keeping a child in a secure children's home | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
- ?200,000 a year. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
The cost of keeping an older person in prison - | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
very costly indeed. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
And, it can be just a negative experience in a downward spiral. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:33 | |
This is our one opportunity to at least do everything we can | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
to change that and it should never be for the want of trying. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:45 | |
In a report last year, Lord Laming warned the UK | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
and Welsh Governments that too many looked-after children were ending up | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
in the judicial system. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
And there's a financial as well as a human cost. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
The price is often a life of sadness, and the cost to society | 0:15:57 | 0:16:04 | |
is often in mental health services, addiction service | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
or in the criminal services. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
Hey, we can do better. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:17 | |
After so many foster placement breakdowns, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
the mother of the teenage girl says care has failed her. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:25 | |
She should have had the help she needed. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
She is now a failed little girl lost in the system. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
Last summer the advocate from MIND was so worried about the girl's | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
welfare that she contacted the office of the Children's | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
Commissioner for Wales and asked for an investigation. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:43 | |
I said about the lack of education, I said about the number | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
of foster placements, and that this child just | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
wasn't being looked after. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:49 | |
And they took all my concerns then contacted me a couple of weeks later | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
to say that they had inevstigated and felt that it was a very complex | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
case and they didn't think there was anything wrong. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
What did you think about that response? | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
I was really unhappy. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
They didn't speak to mum and they didn't ask me any questions. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
I did say please don't take this personally but I am disgusted | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
with what you told me - I can't believe you have come back | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
and said there is nothing wrong, you know, there catergorically is. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
They thought the investigator would call - and the mother | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
would have told them social workers had flagged their concerns | 0:17:20 | 0:17:27 | |
about the girl's welfare within the council. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:28 | |
And, that having identified her daughter as being at risk of sexual | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
exploitation at the age of 12, the girl had to wait nearly five | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
months for the help she needed. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
I think it's disgusting. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:39 | |
They could have found out more if they had contacted me. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
I could have told them about my concerns, about the care | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
she is not receiving. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
I wanted to ask the Commissioner Sally Holland, did her office know | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
about the delays in getting the girl specialist help. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
And why didn't her officials contact the girl's mother? | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
I'm afraid I'm not able to talk about the specifics of that case. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
However, in general I run a learning organisation and if anyone did have | 0:17:59 | 0:18:06 | |
any concerns I would actively encourage them to come | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
to my organisation. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
We would want to respond to them, talk to them | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
as promptly as we could. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
Can you understand the parent's frustration though trying | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
to raise these risks, these dangers, their concerns | 0:18:16 | 0:18:21 | |
and going to organisations like yourselves, like the council, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
and feeling like they're hitting their head on a brick wall. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
Can you understand those frustrations? | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
As I said I don't have the child's consent to talk about this case. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
I'm not able to talk about this specific case. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
Is it acceptable that a child has 17 moves? | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
No one would ever want that to happen to any child. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
I am aware that some children do experience that many moves | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
and I think that's very sad. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
Having told the child's mother and police that she was at risk | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
of sexual exploitation, the council said it would arrange | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
specialist counselling for her. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:56 | |
But for months nothing happened. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
I think it should have been an urgent referral - | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
a child at risk - and I think it should have been discussed more | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
and I think more concern should have been placed upon it. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
It took too long for something that's so serious - | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
and anything could have happened in that time. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:17 | |
The council says it didn't need to tell the commissioner's office | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
about social workers' escalating concerns about how much | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
school she was missing, or the number of times she'd been moved. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:28 | |
It admits there was a delay in referring the girl's case for help. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
And it says it didn't tell the Commissioner's office because it | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
wasn't asked for further information on the issue. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:44 | |
Among the more than 5,600 looked-after children in Wales, | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
there is a clear need for specialist therapeutic placements. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
The Children's Commissioner says she's worried supply | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
is not meeting demand. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
Over the last year I've raised this twice with the director of | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
social services in Welsh government and I've also raised it | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
with the Cabinet Secretary for Children, my concerns | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
about the shortage of these kind of placements. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
I was talking to a social services head last week, who said to me | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
they were particularly concerned about one child, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:11 | |
really needed to find a safe place for her to live - | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
she was coming out of hospital - and they approached 100 different | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
providers before they found somewhere safe enough | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
for her to stay in. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
That's the kind of situation that the local authorities are in. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
Sometimes young people are having to go to Scotland or quite far | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
distances in England from Wales, in order to be safe and receive | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
the care that they need. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
That's not right for the young person and it's not right | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
for their family either. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
When her last foster placement broke down, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
the council was told by an expert that the girl needed | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
behavioural therapies. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:51 | |
She was sent to a council-run children's home. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
Not long after, her mother had a phone call. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
There was an incident in the woods with two older boys - | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
both of them are older. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
One's a man really. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
Apparently she went into the woods with them and came out. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
She told the friends that they done stuff to her. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
She is only a child. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:10 | |
I just screamed down the phone. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
It makes me feel pathetic, helpless. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
The council wouldn't tell us what it did to investigate the allegations | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
or why the girl wasn't sent to a therapeutic unit sooner. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
But it says it's undertaking its responsibilities in full. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:32 | |
After 16 moves the girl was finally sent to a therapeutic residential | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
unit where she has access to education | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
and mental health monitoring. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
But her mum is still worried. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
She is supposed to hand her phone to them at night but she refuses | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
and they don't make her cos she says she will kick off. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
She was ringing me up at 2 in the morning. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
I said, what you doing up this time of night? | 0:21:54 | 0:22:00 | |
She said, I'm bored. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
I'm on FaceTime with my mates. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:04 | |
I said, well why have you got makeup on, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
and she said, oh just to do selfies on FaceTime. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
I got a photo. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:10 | |
She looks like she's going to a nightclub. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
She looks 18. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:13 | |
It just scares me. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:14 | |
I know what's out there on the internet. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
I'm petrified. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
They may say it's more secure but she's been on the phone | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
to me under the influence of drink and drugs. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
She managed to get some random person to buy her drink | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
when she went into town and she's told me an older girl | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
in the same unit has given her cannabis a few times, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
so God only knows where that could end up. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
I'm worried about what other drugs she will do and if she gets hooked | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
she could end up going down the road of prostitution for the money. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
Cos she's so hurt nothing is going to hurt her any more. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
If a parent can't protect their child | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
then the care system is meant to. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
It's 23 years since the controversial Sarah Report | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
exposed how - as a 12 year old girl in care - she'd slipped into a | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
dangerous world. | 0:22:55 | 0:23:01 | |
Sarah says this is where another girl who was in care | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
taught her how to sell sex. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
To the men who abused Sarah, her age didn't matter. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
A few guys did know my real age and they still had sex with me. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:47 | |
Sarah says one day she was picked up off the streets and attacked. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
She says she didn't report what happened. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
She went back to her foster placement and said nothing. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
Cardiff Council told us it's committed to doing | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
everything possible to prevent child sexual exploitation. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
It says it would be inappropriate for it to comment on the working | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
practices of its predecessor, South Glamorgan Council. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
It said important lessons had been learned following the Sarah Report | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
which helped bring about marked improvements in the way | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
local authorities look after vulnerable children. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:13 | |
Having met Sarah, it seemed some things hadn't changed for her, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
but what advice would she give to the girl and others | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
still in care? | 0:25:19 | 0:25:29 | |
So is there enough help out there for children throughout Wales | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
who could be at risk of being sexually exploited? | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
We are getting better at identifying children, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
better at identifying perpetrators of child sexual exploitation ? | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
police are actively chasing them. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
What we're not... | 0:26:02 | 0:26:03 | |
What we don't have enough of yet is the services | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
to help children recover from child sex exploitation. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
We don't have enough consistent available therapeutic services | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
so those children can recover and go onto lead active lives. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
It's shocking. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:20 | |
It's shocking. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:21 | |
These are the most vulnerable children, waiting for specialist | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
counselling, how can that be acceptable? | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
I would expect any child to have the counselling | 0:26:26 | 0:26:32 | |
services they need - any child who's been through | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
child sexual exploitation, as early as possible and that's why | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
I've been raising it as a concern. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:38 | |
Support for victims of sexual exploitation is provided by police | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
forces and partner agencies. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:42 | |
A spokesperson told us prompt and positive steps are taken | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
to intervene effectively as soon as evidence of need emerges. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:52 | |
The Cabinet Secretary for Communities and Children, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
Carl Sargeant, declined an interview but a spokesperson said that | 0:26:54 | 0:26:59 | |
improving the life chances for looked after children | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
is a key priority. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
They said councils have a legal duty to ensure they have enough | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
placements to meet the needs of children in their care, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
though they recognise the particular challenges | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
in finding therapeutic placements. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
It's also working on a National Fostering Framework for Wales. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:24 | |
The mother of the teenage girl has been told she is likely to remain | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
in council care until she's 18. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
I have asked them to provide her with contraception. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
It's not something I want - she's only a kid herself, | 0:27:33 | 0:27:40 | |
but if she has a child, is that child going to be | 0:27:40 | 0:27:49 | |
but if she has a child, is that child going to be born | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
and become lost in the system? | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
I worry is my daughter still going to be alive this | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
time next year? | 0:27:59 | 0:28:00 | |
The council told us it was unaware of the girl's drug misuse and it | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
believes there's been a reduction in her risk-taking behaviour. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
It also says the risk of her being sexually exploited have | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
decreased as a result of her being in a secure setting. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
The mother disagrees and has asked the Public Services Ombudsman | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
for Wales to investigate the council about the way it's | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
cared for her child. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:17 | |
She is waiting for a response. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:18 | |
Two decades after leaving care, Sarah still hasn't found | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
the stability she longed for. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:28 | |
But after all she's been through, Sarah is no | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
longer sure that she can. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:44 | |
A Welsh Government committee is working on an action plan | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
to implement Lord Laming's recommendations for keeping children | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
in care out of trouble. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
Too often when things go wrong, it can seem like a self-fulfilling | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
prophecy, like "what do you expect of children in care?" | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
We must never let children be written off. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:23 | |
Every child in care is precious. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:28 | |
And for the mother who told her daughter's story, | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
her only hope is that it's not too late to change the ending. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:36 | |
My daughter hasn't got a future - she hasn't got one - | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
unless we can get the right help for her now. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
Who is going to help and save her? | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
That's my worry. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:56 |