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We will look at a range of options, it could be the suspension of | :00:00. | :00:16. | |
rush-hour. While the world looks at Russia, | :00:17. | :00:18. | |
there's a problem closer to home. Wales's lower tier rugby players are | :00:19. | :00:21. | |
topping the list for drug bans. It's commonly known Welsh rugby | :00:22. | :00:25. | |
players are mad for taking steroids. Tonight we ask - | :00:26. | :00:28. | |
are players getting away with it? I think if people really want to | :00:29. | :00:32. | |
cheat the system they'll find a way. I think there should | :00:33. | :00:38. | |
be lifetime bans. We carry out | :00:39. | :00:40. | |
our own revealing questionnaire. And we ask- are those | :00:41. | :00:44. | |
at the top tackling the problem? One player getting banned is one | :00:45. | :00:48. | |
too many as far as I'm concerned. It's not a great situation | :00:49. | :00:52. | |
for the sport. It's training night at | :00:53. | :01:14. | |
Caerphilly Rugby Club. They play in Division 3 | :01:15. | :01:15. | |
of the national league. Power and strength have always | :01:16. | :01:23. | |
been a big part of rugby... But coach Gareth Short feels drug | :01:24. | :01:31. | |
use I think it is a big issue | :01:32. | :01:33. | |
at the moment. I'd say nine times out | :01:34. | :01:37. | |
of ten the teams we play against have got one or two boys playing who | :01:38. | :01:40. | |
are taking steroids at the time. Everybody else trains hard, | :01:41. | :01:49. | |
our boys go to the gym, Somebody who's taking performance | :01:50. | :01:56. | |
enhancing drugs - yeah they do train hard but they get | :01:57. | :02:00. | |
better gains from it... The boys taking steroids they're a | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
different kind of shape - you look It's not very well regulated | :02:05. | :02:07. | |
in lower leagues - there's not a lot of drug testing goes on so I | :02:08. | :02:13. | |
think the boys think they can get The facts seem to support | :02:14. | :02:17. | |
the suspicion in union and league there are more players banned | :02:18. | :02:26. | |
in rugby than in any other sport. And last week two more Welsh | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
players joined the list. I've represented Wales | :02:31. | :02:41. | |
in four different sports and I know there are always people willing to | :02:42. | :02:43. | |
break the rules to get an edge. But during my rugby career I won | :02:44. | :02:50. | |
87 caps for Wales and I always Now, with so many players | :02:51. | :02:54. | |
banned I've had to think again. I want to find out if authorities | :02:55. | :03:03. | |
are doing a better job of policing Most of the players from Wales who | :03:04. | :03:06. | |
have tested positive for performance enhancing drugs were found to have | :03:07. | :03:17. | |
traces of anabolic steroids - On the banned list from Wales are | :03:18. | :03:21. | |
17 players from semi pro to grass He's now back playing with | :03:22. | :03:29. | |
championship side Merthyr He didn't want to be interviewed, | :03:30. | :03:40. | |
but we spoke to the club doctor. And obviously for the individual, | :03:41. | :03:45. | |
Ben - he's a young lad. He wasn't tested positive | :03:46. | :03:50. | |
for any steroids or anabolic or He was picked up | :03:51. | :03:55. | |
for having a banned substance Ben perhaps was naive and perhaps | :03:56. | :04:00. | |
could have taken further steps. But another point is what stimulated | :04:01. | :04:09. | |
the sort of interest We didn't want anyone else's career | :04:10. | :04:11. | |
to potentially be jeopardized. It's accepted that sports | :04:12. | :04:16. | |
supplements and medications CAN cause players to fail drugs tests - | :04:17. | :04:19. | |
either because they contain ingredients | :04:20. | :04:21. | |
that aren't on the label or athletes There's this desire | :04:22. | :04:24. | |
and drive to be big. You see the likes of Jamie Roberts, | :04:25. | :04:31. | |
Leigh Halfpenny, Sam Warburton. They are massive athletes, | :04:32. | :04:34. | |
almost like Gladiators. They are in an extremely intense | :04:35. | :04:38. | |
professional environment and then they have all the support | :04:39. | :04:40. | |
and the supplements to go with it. And a further problem, he says, | :04:41. | :04:43. | |
is the drugs are too easy to find. They're widely available | :04:44. | :04:47. | |
on the internet. You can do it from the comfort of | :04:48. | :05:01. | |
your own home. Available the is a problem. I want the players to be | :05:02. | :05:03. | |
safe. I see the bad effects. I see people coming | :05:04. | :05:10. | |
in with heart attacks at the age of Because I don't want that | :05:11. | :05:12. | |
to happen to my players. A total of 30 Rugby players | :05:13. | :05:16. | |
from both league and union are 20-year-old Daniel Spencer Tonks | :05:17. | :05:19. | |
from Gloucester has played both I think there has also been a | :05:20. | :05:22. | |
massive problem. He is one of 14 league players | :05:23. | :05:30. | |
suspended from the sport in Britain. Welsh rugby players are mad | :05:31. | :05:33. | |
for taking steroids. I've played a lot of rugby in Wales | :05:34. | :05:39. | |
and obviously when I was playing rugby league and you do hear | :05:40. | :05:43. | |
a lot people saying the Welsh... You can look at a person you can | :05:44. | :05:46. | |
just tell, like that is a person that goes to the gym, plays rugby, | :05:47. | :05:55. | |
you know what you can achieve by how much you train etc and you know | :05:56. | :05:59. | |
what's possible and you can tell Daniel has been handed | :06:00. | :06:02. | |
a four year ban from ALL sports He would not even be allowed to | :06:03. | :06:06. | |
play pool for his local pub team. The reason I took it is because I | :06:07. | :06:16. | |
was out in Dubai on the beaches I was eighteen stone, | :06:17. | :06:19. | |
I wanted to lose a bit of weight, cut all the fat off me and shred up | :06:20. | :06:25. | |
and just look good really. Daniel had taken | :06:26. | :06:28. | |
the same drug used by Ben Johnson who was stripped of his gold medal | :06:29. | :06:31. | |
at the 1988 Seoul Olympics. It's had a massive effect on me, | :06:32. | :06:36. | |
family, friends. Sometimes I just don't know | :06:37. | :06:40. | |
what to do with myself. I just think what I'm | :06:41. | :06:42. | |
going to do now. Everything I've worked for my whole | :06:43. | :06:44. | |
life, everything I've put my effort Dan was banned | :06:45. | :06:47. | |
while playing rugby league. I asked Chris Thair | :06:48. | :06:54. | |
from the sport why Welsh players I think when you do get a spike | :06:55. | :06:56. | |
in a number of positive tests I think we've got to do more | :06:57. | :07:11. | |
as a sport. And it's not a great situation | :07:12. | :07:15. | |
for the sport to be in. It's a huge global issue | :07:16. | :07:18. | |
for all sports on the banned list. There are fifty players this year | :07:19. | :07:23. | |
in different sports involved. South Wales Scorpions have been | :07:24. | :07:25. | |
in the news. They tested | :07:26. | :07:31. | |
the whole squad 30 players. There was no culture within the | :07:32. | :07:50. | |
club. It comes down to what they see and what they want as sportspeople. | :07:51. | :07:59. | |
While making this programme I found out that steroids and rugby are | :08:00. | :08:02. | |
Getting players to speak openly is difficult. | :08:03. | :08:05. | |
But one has agreed to talk us anonymously. | :08:06. | :08:07. | |
We've called him Steve and his interview is played by an actor. | :08:08. | :08:10. | |
At one time he played at semi professional level and retired | :08:11. | :08:12. | |
So I started playing rugby at schoolboy level, Welsh schools, | :08:13. | :08:17. | |
then went on to play semi professional rugby. | :08:18. | :08:20. | |
I took different forms of testosterone - anabolic steroids. | :08:21. | :08:27. | |
Just like looking at guys around me in the gym, people | :08:28. | :08:34. | |
developing faster, not training as much and just the competition. | :08:35. | :08:37. | |
You see players getting fitter, faster, stronger, | :08:38. | :08:40. | |
who are obviously using anabolic steroids, and it's sort of | :08:41. | :08:43. | |
a pressure put on you then, if you want to perform you need to start | :08:44. | :08:47. | |
How would you describe how big performance enhancing drugs are | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
I think people are probably blind to it, and if the truth came out I | :08:52. | :08:58. | |
think there would probably be a lot more players who are banned | :08:59. | :09:00. | |
I've been taking a look at the figures for banned rugby | :09:01. | :09:08. | |
players and what shocks me is the proportion that are from Wales. | :09:09. | :09:13. | |
Between union and league Welsh names make up half the list. | :09:14. | :09:22. | |
Testing for drugs in sport is controlled by the UK | :09:23. | :09:28. | |
Samples are analysed here at Kings College London. | :09:29. | :09:31. | |
What our intelligence is showing us is that a number of positive | :09:32. | :09:34. | |
This works very much now on the premise that we follow | :09:35. | :09:43. | |
So if we think there's a problem somewhere | :09:44. | :09:45. | |
in a particular sport or a particular team or club, we will | :09:46. | :09:50. | |
put more effort into uncovering what we think might be going on. | :09:51. | :09:57. | |
Proportionately how many cheats are you catching? | :09:58. | :10:00. | |
It's something that really is difficult | :10:01. | :10:09. | |
So with research hard to come by we decided to see what we could | :10:10. | :10:17. | |
We took an anonymous questionnaire to six grassroots rugby union clubs. | :10:18. | :10:25. | |
The first thing we found out was that 23 | :10:26. | :10:33. | |
of the 100 players said they would take performance enhancing drugs | :10:34. | :10:36. | |
At Brighton University more scientific research is underway. | :10:37. | :10:42. | |
Professor Yannis Pitsiladis is one expert working to beat | :10:43. | :10:44. | |
From some data that's beginning to emerge it appears it's certainly | :10:45. | :10:51. | |
happening within the youth in rugby and therefore we don't know | :10:52. | :11:17. | |
There isn't much testing, there aren't the deterrents there | :11:18. | :11:19. | |
so there is almost an inevitable pathway for an athlete to take. | :11:20. | :11:24. | |
World rugby - the sport's governing body - says it's putting more money | :11:25. | :11:27. | |
Last year they produced this video to warn young players. | :11:28. | :11:33. | |
It features Sam Chalmers - son of Scotland international, Craig. | :11:34. | :11:37. | |
He tested positive for an anabolic steroid in May 2013 | :11:38. | :11:40. | |
I'd been getting under pressure by people saying you've got | :11:41. | :11:49. | |
the skills and stuff, you just need to put on weight, get bigger, | :11:50. | :11:54. | |
bigger and one day I just thought, I'll take what my friends taking. | :11:55. | :11:57. | |
When you want something so bad you just do anything. | :11:58. | :12:00. | |
Steve says that as a young player he felt pressure to take steroid and | :12:01. | :12:05. | |
I think certainly at a younger level I think there's less drug testing | :12:06. | :12:12. | |
going on, but the pressures when you're younger to make those | :12:13. | :12:15. | |
quick jumps - especially with young players now who have got the | :12:16. | :12:18. | |
opportunity to have a full time professional career, I certainly | :12:19. | :12:30. | |
When you were taking it, did you feel guilty? | :12:31. | :12:35. | |
Were you aware of other people taking steroids around you? | :12:36. | :12:38. | |
Yeah, I was definitely aware of other | :12:39. | :12:39. | |
It was how I was first put onto it - from other players who were already | :12:40. | :12:45. | |
Martin Phillips is the new Chief Executive of the Welsh Rugby Union. | :12:46. | :12:51. | |
I think it's a problem in society to start with. | :12:52. | :12:57. | |
I wouldn't sit here and say that it's not a problem in rugby because | :12:58. | :13:00. | |
one player getting banned is one too many as far as I'm concerned. | :13:01. | :13:06. | |
So the challenge for us, not just in rugby, | :13:07. | :13:09. | |
but in sport generally, is we've got to try and get it out of the game. | :13:10. | :13:14. | |
I don't think that's going to be easy. | :13:15. | :13:16. | |
A third of the players banned at the moment on the UK anti-doping | :13:17. | :13:19. | |
list are from rugby - that must be a concern for you? | :13:20. | :13:27. | |
I was quite heartened that we're clearly very focussed on this area, | :13:28. | :13:30. | |
we are catching people, and the intelligence we get - maybe there's | :13:31. | :13:33. | |
a gym or a club who are doing the wrong thing - you pull at that | :13:34. | :13:37. | |
There are some mainstream sports that aren't even testing the amateur | :13:38. | :13:41. | |
players in their sport, big national sports, so the first thing for me is | :13:42. | :13:44. | |
to try and level the playing field and get some good quality testing | :13:45. | :13:54. | |
Most players who are caught are at grassroots | :13:55. | :13:57. | |
The professional game is clean and long may that continue, | :13:58. | :14:05. | |
Michael Owen played rugby union for 11 years and captained Wales to | :14:06. | :14:09. | |
He says players and the public underestimate the hard work and | :14:10. | :14:16. | |
commitment of the professional game I think from a rugby perspective, | :14:17. | :14:21. | |
I think that the players today are incredible athletes in great shape, | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
but I look at it and see the advances that have been | :14:26. | :14:29. | |
made in strength and conditioning and the understanding of what people | :14:30. | :14:31. | |
And I think they're one of the things I | :14:32. | :14:38. | |
like to see is maybe like as a sport we are proactive rather than | :14:39. | :14:41. | |
waiting for some to fail a drugs test to try and say we're going to | :14:42. | :14:45. | |
We're going to publish the data on people's fitness test results, | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
publish the data on what supplements people are taking and try to make it | :14:50. | :14:52. | |
You have got facts to prove it and to back up what you're saying | :14:53. | :14:57. | |
While we are told keeping the sport clean on the pitch is | :14:58. | :15:02. | |
a priority, we know steroids are an issue off the pitch too. | :15:03. | :15:06. | |
It's easy to see it's common throughout Wales - there are | :15:07. | :15:09. | |
Here in Swansea, the number of steroid users going to | :15:10. | :15:16. | |
needle exchanges has almost doubled over the past three years. | :15:17. | :15:22. | |
Public health Wales have told us it's becoming endemic in society, | :15:23. | :15:25. | |
but we know this isn't a new problem. | :15:26. | :15:30. | |
In 1993 Week In Week Out investigated steroid use | :15:31. | :15:33. | |
in Wales - the programme spoke to former weight lifter John Burns. | :15:34. | :15:59. | |
They start them off on five, six times the prescribed dose. | :16:00. | :16:05. | |
22 years later and John is in the same gym talking about | :16:06. | :16:10. | |
When everybody comes to Swansea on a weekend | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
there's lads coming from the valleys all around and you see these shapes | :16:15. | :16:17. | |
You look in any magazine you see people with great physiques | :16:18. | :16:22. | |
But Steve says for him it was all about being a better player. | :16:23. | :17:03. | |
I noticed very rapidly that I put on weight quickly, | :17:04. | :17:05. | |
my strength levels increased and my general sports performance | :17:06. | :17:07. | |
Did it make much difference to you as a rugby player? | :17:08. | :17:11. | |
It made a massive difference to me as a rugby player, I was fitter, | :17:12. | :17:15. | |
faster, stronger in a very short space of time. | :17:16. | :17:17. | |
I think each individual's motivation is different and I think... | :17:18. | :17:19. | |
When we're talking about a doping athlete or | :17:20. | :17:21. | |
an athlete who chooses to dope, I think what everybody forgets in this | :17:22. | :17:24. | |
And whether that is health consequences. | :17:25. | :17:27. | |
Whether that's the impact it can have on your family. | :17:28. | :17:29. | |
About the people around you, about your livelihood, your job | :17:30. | :17:31. | |
You may be able to return to the sport two four years later, but | :17:32. | :17:36. | |
is anybody ever going to see you as anything other than the individual | :17:37. | :17:40. | |
John won a gold medal at the Commonwealth Games in 1982. | :17:41. | :17:47. | |
He was clean but he saw his sport ruined by drug taking scandals. | :17:48. | :17:54. | |
Well what you saw there in the late '70s and gathered momentum | :17:55. | :17:57. | |
and that involved weightlifters getting caught, justifiably. | :17:58. | :18:03. | |
But that didn't just mean the individual was castigated, it meant | :18:04. | :18:06. | |
If in the likes of rugby there's some hanky-panky going on, if it | :18:07. | :18:13. | |
gets exposed and you get the media zeroing in on them and exposing | :18:14. | :18:16. | |
them, it's really going to make a lot of parents unlikely to encourage | :18:17. | :18:19. | |
Once you've lost your reputation, once the sport loses its reputation, | :18:20. | :18:28. | |
Since 2009 the number of people who have been caught and | :18:29. | :18:34. | |
banned in rugby is relatively small compared to the thousands who play. | :18:35. | :18:39. | |
Currently, there are 10 banned Welsh rugby Union players. | :18:40. | :18:42. | |
That's out of a total of 16 in Britain. | :18:43. | :18:44. | |
And according to the results on our questionnaire there are | :18:45. | :18:50. | |
100 players took part and around half knew a player who has doped. | :18:51. | :18:58. | |
15 out of those 100 players admitted to taking performance | :18:59. | :19:01. | |
We sent out a questionnaire to 100 players in Wales and 15 admitted | :19:02. | :19:07. | |
to taking performance enhancing drugs - that's quite worrying? | :19:08. | :19:14. | |
I'm trying to constantly rely on the stats I can see - Wales | :19:15. | :19:18. | |
rugby, UK doping - and you know that's where I'm putting my focus. | :19:19. | :19:27. | |
I'm sure there would be loads of ad-hoc surveys, | :19:28. | :19:30. | |
but the fact that we've caught people suggests there's an issue, so | :19:31. | :19:34. | |
my job now is to get closer to that and make sure we can become the best | :19:35. | :19:38. | |
While the WRU say they are committed to dealing with the problem, why | :19:39. | :19:45. | |
Professor Pitsoladis says at the moment, it's easy to cheat. | :19:46. | :19:52. | |
For the drugs that leave the system very quickly they can be very | :19:53. | :19:56. | |
confident that when they go for testing that they won't be caught | :19:57. | :19:58. | |
because the current testing won't be able to detect those drugs because | :19:59. | :20:01. | |
They're ahead of testing, using steroids that don't stay | :20:02. | :20:08. | |
Ever heard of players knowing about testers coming in? | :20:09. | :20:14. | |
Yeah of course, when they know testers coming into training | :20:15. | :20:17. | |
That definitely happens Even though Dan was caught, | :20:18. | :20:21. | |
he says most players feel they're able to dodge the testers. | :20:22. | :20:31. | |
Even though Dan was caught, | :20:32. | :20:33. | |
he says most players feel they're able to dodge the testers. | :20:34. | :20:35. | |
At my level you knew the testers were coming around potentially once | :20:36. | :20:38. | |
a year in pre-season and then maybe towards the end of the year they | :20:39. | :20:42. | |
Probably not and I believe that's why it's so massive | :20:43. | :20:45. | |
Not many people are going to get tested. | :20:46. | :20:52. | |
I've been massively singled out and made an example of, | :20:53. | :20:55. | |
Anyone that's spoke to me about it, they say you are one | :20:56. | :21:05. | |
of the unlucky ones that got caught and that's the best way to put it. | :21:06. | :21:09. | |
At Caerphilly coach Gareth Short has been at the club four years and says | :21:10. | :21:12. | |
Well, I've never seen anyone be drug tested at division two, three, | :21:13. | :21:19. | |
The results of our questionnaire tell a similar story. | :21:20. | :21:38. | |
Out of 100 players, only five have been tested in the past three years. | :21:39. | :21:41. | |
UK Anti-doping admits there needs to be continuous research | :21:42. | :21:44. | |
into catching cheats, but says resources are limited. | :21:45. | :21:49. | |
In an ideal world we'd be testing all sports all the time, but that's | :21:50. | :21:53. | |
not a reality for any anti-doping organisation in the world. | :21:54. | :21:57. | |
So it's about being really efficient and effective with | :21:58. | :22:01. | |
There's no set pattern to testing but do players get tipped off | :22:02. | :22:07. | |
All of our testing I wish to make clear is no advance notice. | :22:08. | :22:15. | |
Now, if there are individuals who for whatever reason either they're | :22:16. | :22:17. | |
getting their heads up from the support personnel within a | :22:18. | :22:21. | |
particular sport that we're coming because they happen to be the ones | :22:22. | :22:28. | |
receiving the doping control officers first, then we'll go | :22:29. | :22:31. | |
after those athlete support personnel because that is tantamount | :22:32. | :22:35. | |
With pressures on resources and possible cuts of up to 25% to | :22:36. | :22:46. | |
UK Anti-Doping's budget, it doesn't seem there will be more | :22:47. | :22:48. | |
So how does the sport plan to tackle the problem? | :22:49. | :23:05. | |
Lots of workshops, training of development officers. | :23:06. | :23:09. | |
I think we can use that to reach the players directly. | :23:10. | :23:12. | |
So they did 2,100 tests last year and they've introduced | :23:13. | :23:15. | |
in-competition testing this year, so I don't think it's | :23:16. | :23:18. | |
I think we could certainly spend more on education and just working | :23:19. | :23:23. | |
in a smarter fashion and doing more throughout the year. | :23:24. | :23:25. | |
So we can continually do more and we will, but it's always going | :23:26. | :23:28. | |
Union and league say they are working hard to educate players, | :23:29. | :23:33. | |
but Caerphilly's coach says the message hasn't reached his club. | :23:34. | :23:37. | |
The only education we get is from speaking to people | :23:38. | :23:39. | |
at your local gyms in our gym in the rugby club or here say, | :23:40. | :23:43. | |
if you are playing against somebody you think is on steroids - you talk | :23:44. | :23:46. | |
We've never had any kind of directive, anyone coming | :23:47. | :23:54. | |
down to talk about steroids what's acceptable, what's not acceptable. | :23:55. | :23:56. | |
In Merthyr the club run their own education programme. | :23:57. | :24:03. | |
They have been warning about the dangers of supplements | :24:04. | :24:06. | |
I keep hammering it home to them regularly. | :24:07. | :24:13. | |
And certainly since I've given the talk | :24:14. | :24:15. | |
the boys are much more aware of the websites you can look at to check | :24:16. | :24:18. | |
supplements and medications given to you by your doctor, for instance. | :24:19. | :24:21. | |
A lot of them have got the apps we've advised them to get | :24:22. | :24:24. | |
and they'll often come up to me in training or a match day and say I've | :24:25. | :24:28. | |
got new supplement, can we check it over, check it's been tested cos | :24:29. | :24:31. | |
there are certain ones that have been batch tested to make sure they | :24:32. | :24:34. | |
are clean and we do it together and some of them are proactively | :24:35. | :24:37. | |
Three weeks after our cameras filmed here at Merthyr, another one | :24:38. | :24:41. | |
Owen Morgan tested positive for an anabolic steroid. | :24:42. | :24:46. | |
He admitted breaking the rules and was given a four-year ban. | :24:47. | :24:51. | |
The club told us that any player who decides to cheat has no place | :24:52. | :24:54. | |
Steve feels there should be more education but says if a player wants | :24:55. | :25:00. | |
The problem you've got is professional sport and the pressure | :25:01. | :25:06. | |
that's sort of put on players to be fitter, faster and stronger, | :25:07. | :25:09. | |
you're never ever, ever going to be able to get rid of performance | :25:10. | :25:12. | |
There's always going to be new ways to get around the testing, so you | :25:13. | :25:19. | |
can educate players as much as you want about it, but you know if | :25:20. | :25:22. | |
a young rugby players going to get a professional contract from taking | :25:23. | :25:25. | |
performance enhancing drugs they're going to use them. | :25:26. | :25:30. | |
If someone had taken you aside when you were younger | :25:31. | :25:33. | |
and talked more about side effects and educated you more | :25:34. | :25:35. | |
on the drugs would it have changed whether you used them or not? | :25:36. | :25:41. | |
When you're looking at a career in rugby and you're thinking. | :25:42. | :25:48. | |
"If I use, there's a possibility I'm going to get it" then no, | :25:49. | :25:52. | |
I think the prevention around education is key, | :25:53. | :26:00. | |
but for those who aren't convinced by that they ultimately will get | :26:01. | :26:04. | |
I'd much rather be in the prevention education space, but if it needs to | :26:05. | :26:11. | |
Michael Owen thinks to protect rugby's reputation authorities | :26:12. | :26:19. | |
If you get caught at the top level I think arguably you should face a | :26:20. | :26:27. | |
life ban because if you've cheated and deceived the supporters or taken | :26:28. | :26:30. | |
a contract from someone else you should probably get a life ban. | :26:31. | :26:37. | |
Prior to 2015 there was an extensive consultation with | :26:38. | :26:46. | |
the sports movement about what they thought were | :26:47. | :26:48. | |
appropriate sanctions There is a big debate about whether an athlete | :26:49. | :26:51. | |
should be given a second chance if they've made a genuine mistake. | :26:52. | :27:00. | |
And therefore my response would be that we are | :27:01. | :27:03. | |
living with a code at the moment that will be in existence for the | :27:04. | :27:06. | |
next four years and that is a debate which I'm sure will come up again. | :27:07. | :27:12. | |
When we go through another iteration of the World Anti-Doping Code. | :27:13. | :27:15. | |
The debate about bans continues, but Professor Pitsoladis is confident | :27:16. | :27:17. | |
his advances in testing mean athletes who think they are getting | :27:18. | :27:20. | |
As we move on to the next generation of anti-doping | :27:21. | :27:26. | |
tests when we can identify the trace the drug leaves behind they would | :27:27. | :27:29. | |
eventually be caught so the future is actually quite bright. | :27:30. | :27:35. | |
The world anti-doping agency has put into place really important changes, | :27:36. | :27:39. | |
like the fact that blood and urine samples are stored for ten years. | :27:40. | :27:45. | |
There can't be an athlete or a support team that's actually | :27:46. | :27:48. | |
cheating that can actually sleep comfortably at night. | :27:49. | :27:52. | |
At the moment, yes, they might be getting away with it, but what's | :27:53. | :27:55. | |
As a player who has been caught, Daniel faces years away | :27:56. | :28:02. | |
from rugby - time to decide whether he will ever play again. | :28:03. | :28:17. | |
If I could go back and change what I did, I would. I didn't need it. I | :28:18. | :28:42. | |
don't know what I'm going to do, if I will go back. For years seems a | :28:43. | :28:44. | |
long way away. Now | :28:45. | :28:48. | |
that I've looked into drugs in rugby players taking them I realised. And | :28:49. | :28:50. | |
I can't help but feel it's not being I don't want to see my sport go | :28:51. | :28:55. | |
the way of others I think | :28:56. | :28:59. | |
if people really want to cheat It was probably the wrong choice | :29:00. | :29:12. | |
and certainly if I was recommending anyone today, certainly | :29:13. | :29:17. | |
from the side effects I've had, I Some of these athletes if it is | :29:18. | :29:19. | |
at the highest level who are taking these drugs, | :29:20. | :29:29. | |
it's only a matter of time before their whole career collapses | :29:30. | :29:31. | |
and there may be a case like the Lance Armstrong case in elite rugby, | :29:32. | :29:34. | |
which would be awful for the sport. | :29:35. | :29:49. |